I'm laughing cuz this is SO me. Even though my family were losing their minds because I couldn't settle on a career, it worked out perfectly for me (after, like a decade) & I found the perfect career for me that uses most of my past interests and never gets boring. People used to chastise me for being into dumb interests & activities that would "never get me a job" but the joke's on them because I use all the skills I learned doing those things. Daily.
@@Dionyzos yes, I know full well. I lived that part too. Just because it worked out well for me and I got the last laugh doesn't mean the decade before it all came to fruition was easy or that I had any support. Even when I found my new path I didn't have support from anyone except my new colleagues. I never said it was easy, just that when things finally resolved it vindicated my past choices.
Im 53 and have been a late bloomer since I came out of the womb. It all worked out fine, as frustrating as it felt! So hang in there, go with the flow it will all work itself out in time, just as it is supposed to. Just realize you are not alone!!!!!
I'm 33 and still don't really know what I want to do for the rest of my life, but I know what will give me meaning now and I think that's more important.
We don't talk enough about late bloomers, glad you brought it up. Sometimes also it's as simple as when a kid was admitted to school. I used to teach Grade2 and I had 2 kids in my class who were just too young. They were normal for their age but their parents had had the permission to enroll them even though they were December babies. I thought that was so tragic cause in Grade 1 that kid would have rocked whereas in a classroom with kids almost a year older than them, they really felt dumb. If it had been my kid, I would have taken it out of school a year and resolved the situation that way.
You perfectly articulated my life crisis! It was so interesting to hear about this topic, made me feel better about being a little all over the place. Thanks for the video!
As a 17 year old currently under a lot of pressure to figure out what to do with the rest of my life, thanks! A lot of the time I've felt like my failure to decide on one specific subject that I'm most interested in somehow meant that I was behind everyone else, but this video gave me some hope that it's okay that I'm interested in a lot of different things and I can still explore my interests even if I'm "supposed" to have decided by now.
I've moved from the English education system to the Scottish one so I guess I can hope to get either the best of both worlds! It is really interesting seeing the differences, I much prefer the generalist approach over the specialist but having a mix of both in the world is great, they've both got their place
This resonates with my methos of blooming where I'm planted, taking my time doing it, and being prepared to kick up roots at a moments notice. Thanks Darwin, and thank you for the video, Curious Tangents.
I came across your channel after seeing a comment of yours on a Captain Sinbad video. Severely underrated channel! The production quality is much better than I'd expect from a channel with this many subscribers. Keep it up!
thank you, I really needed to hear this. I've been indicicive my whole life and only recently started to partially narrow down what I want to do in life. It's good to hear that this isn't just a bad thing
I've known exactly what I want to be since age 11, and luckily this has never changed, but I also have a ton of other interests, all of which help me get better at my one core thing. One of them turned out to be my youtube, which now pays the bills even though it was never my main thing, and I love it. I've never wasted my time learning useless things because all of the things I have learned have, in a holistic way, expanded my horizons.
You know I'm 17 and there are all these people all over the world that made their mark at that age like there is Olivia Rodrigo, Amanda gorman, Malala,the Times kid of the year,the tiktok stars, maitri from sir Lanka, and so many more. And the mere thought of it is enough to shut me down
I thought the same at your age. I’m still not sure how to lead my life a few years later. The success that people believed I could have weighed on me because I always compared myself to these other amazing people and my own past accomplishments... I can’t tell you that I’m very successful now, but I can say that, slowly, I’ve worked towards the things I love and want to do more of, and found my passion in living again. I hope you do to. It takes a lot of kindness and patience with your perceived shortcomings, but it’s worth it.
When I was a child I had a difficult time learning and doing well in school, from the perspective of my instructors. However, I remember being excited to go home and play. "Play," meant innovating my toys. I remember putting an electric motor on my plastic boat and watching it go. I would love drawing treasure maps and following them. But I always got in trouble for fighting, being disruptive, copying assignments, getting bad grades. I didn't get to play at recess because of it. I think i suffered social skills as well. As an adult I went into civil engineering, pipe layout design and now architecture as a draftsman. I seem to impress my superiors when it comes to problem solving. I'd say I was a late bloomer.
You mentioned the thing about the Beatles not getting signed by Decca. Here's something to think about. We tend to think about people or groups that have had a huge success as though that success was inevitable. That if anyone else did the same things at the same quality, they'd have the same success. That given any timeline or any situation, they would have succeeded. So we give the credit here to the Beatles, but not to Brian Epstein, or to the marketing teams, or to blind chance, or to any of the probably hundreds of contributing factors that absolutely were most dominated by lucky happenstance. It is an extension of Survivor's Bias. We assume the Beatles were successful because they did something special that would have been successful under any label that signed them. That kind of success is more largely influenced by chance than anything else. Yes, you need talent and hard work too, but there are millions of unknown brilliant musicians that have worked hard to barely eek out a living. There are dozens of bands I've discovered on Spotify that I think are brilliant that have under 100 monthly listens. Another fine example is this channel I found with like 28,400 subs called Curious Tangents. This guy's better than 90% of the channels I watch with more than a million subs and some of those got there in the blink of an eye. Overnight. Usually by just cutting things in half, crushing them with a press or whatever.
I did not know all this but I have made a life plan with the note that it can change if I want it to change, also its good to mention the positive mental health effects of letting yourself change jobs if you dislike or don't want to do what you are doing
I for one definitely love the variety of interests you have, and I suppose this has been/still is an issue for me too. I needed this so thank you for the video~
I recommend checking out "Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World" by David Epstein, it covers this topic well, primarily from a Sports and Business perspective. Edit: lol I typed this comment halfway through, I see you've already checked it out!
The Decca Rejection of the Beatles because “guitar music is on the way out” is a bit of a myth. Decca signed a very similar band, Brian Poole and the Tremeloes, the very same day. Both groups were comprised of young white men, and they made Beat music with strong harmonies influenced by Buddy Holly. There were two main differences between the bands: first, the Tremeloes were more successful up to that point, and second, the Tremeloes were from Dagenham (then in Essex, now London), which was much closer to Decca’s London base than Liverpool. The travel expenses for the Tremeloes would therefore be significantly lower. Decca simply didn’t want to say “we’re rejecting you because you’re from Liverpool” (a statement that would have come laden with connotations about the British class system) so they came up with an excuse, the same way you might turn down a date by saying you need to wash your hair rather than saying you find the asker unattractive, or tell a bad sportsperson that they’re just not tall enough to make the team rather than tell them that they’re bad at sports. Obviously the Beatles went on to have more success than the Tremeloes, but the Tremeloes had four top ten hits and even knocked “She Loves You” off the top of the charts. They were a good pick... they just weren’t the Beatles. Great video all the same, thank you for continuing to share your tangents.
I feel like this is probably the opposite of what most people think but I consider brains and psychology a kind of learning environment, there may be a lot of things we don't know about them but that doesn't make them any less predictable, for example, most abnormal psychologies can have a root in trauma that makes them more likely to develop, therefore you can infer that if someone has a whole lot of environmentally activated/developed conditions (With genetic factors or without) l; like addictions, anxiety, depression, etc, that they likely have trauma (Is this partially an excuse for me to nerd out about psychology? Yes yes it is :P )
This is random (as are most of my comments :P ) but it would be really cool if you (probably when you have more subscribers) went on tour! I would totally go just to listen to you nerd out about stuff (it would be cool if we could partake in the nerding) also it would be even cooler if you got to do so with john and hank green because I know you like them
Career paths seem a bit tricky, you can climb them based on the path you take and as you climb the skills you need can change completely. It doesn't seem to matter if you're good or bad at the relevant skills, as long as you know enough to proceed through projects.
Hmm, do you know where the terms "Kind" and "Wicked", in this specific context of learning environments, come from? I did some googling and found various references to them... but haven't (yet, at least) dug deep enough to figure out where they come from. Like, are they acronyms or something? Or just a coinage by someone in a book somewhere? Something acknowledged broadly by a particular field? Other? And as a side-note, the term RADAR is indeed an acronym, short for "RAdio Detection And Ranging"... The bit at 6:05 almost seemed to indicate that it somehow stood for Resonant Cavity Magnetron... and as a _term_ it does not, at all. (As a technology, they're intimately connected, so... what you say isn't wrong, it just strikes me as potentially-misleading.)
With a few exceptions I get bored doing the same thing after 6 months, so as long as I'm making a comfortable amount of money, what's the point in getting super specialized? If I'm a generalist at work, I get to dip my toes into a lot of different things and keep learning! And in my personal life, I can just pick up and let go of hobbies as I please
Hm. A lot of these types of conversations tend to centre arround intelligence and mental ability but I wonder how it translates to physically demanding industries like sports and mechanical work. Especially if you haven't taken care of your body in your younger years. I know it's possible but I wonder if that physical element adds anything extra to the conversation.
My dudes there is no advantage for most people getting girls or starting a career late. My friend died at 32. He was a loser with women, his career was driving doordash for 8 years and the only women he had were cheap escorts. He got hit by a truck
@@TravisGilbert my bad, it was the previous video.* "Why behind in life, how to stop". It sounds like it could be the same video but the title is more negative? Gonna watch both now. Thanks for allways talking interesting stuff :D *You responded but I had forgotten the other title. My best guess was google translating it. I found it trying to replicate it. XD
"It's hard to know what a story says before a story is actually over."
Really like that quote, perfect ending!
Thank you!
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I'm laughing cuz this is SO me. Even though my family were losing their minds because I couldn't settle on a career, it worked out perfectly for me (after, like a decade) & I found the perfect career for me that uses most of my past interests and never gets boring. People used to chastise me for being into dumb interests & activities that would "never get me a job" but the joke's on them because I use all the skills I learned doing those things. Daily.
The time in between can be rather painful though, especially in an unsupportive environment.
@@Dionyzos yes, I know full well. I lived that part too. Just because it worked out well for me and I got the last laugh doesn't mean the decade before it all came to fruition was easy or that I had any support. Even when I found my new path I didn't have support from anyone except my new colleagues. I never said it was easy, just that when things finally resolved it vindicated my past choices.
Same peers in school are way ahead
@@TerriMRobertsmaybe it wasn't easy but defo worth it.
happy for u hey.
This thumbnail looks like something you would find when you search inspirational quotes.
Im 53 and have been a late bloomer since I came out of the womb. It all worked out fine, as frustrating as it felt! So hang in there, go with the flow it will all work itself out in time, just as it is supposed to. Just realize you are not alone!!!!!
I turn 25 this year, and goddamn, every reminder telling me "its okay to be where you at with my life rn" is so wonderful, just thank you.
Good luck going forward!
imagine being 38
Sucks how my parents don’t see it that way
I love this. This is EXACTLY what people should be told rather than making them agonise over wasted years
I'm 33 and still don't really know what I want to do for the rest of my life, but I know what will give me meaning now and I think that's more important.
I'm in a similar position and feel the same way. It took a long time to get here but I'm hoping that it's the start of something good.
I have not even seen the whole thing and I know it’s going to be good
I love the attitude!
agreed
Yes, I think that Travis may be part Vulcan. He and Spock would work together very well.
We don't talk enough about late bloomers, glad you brought it up. Sometimes also it's as simple as when a kid was admitted to school. I used to teach Grade2 and I had 2 kids in my class who were just too young. They were normal for their age but their parents had had the permission to enroll them even though they were December babies. I thought that was so tragic cause in Grade 1 that kid would have rocked whereas in a classroom with kids almost a year older than them, they really felt dumb. If it had been my kid, I would have taken it out of school a year and resolved the situation that way.
You perfectly articulated my life crisis! It was so interesting to hear about this topic, made me feel better about being a little all over the place. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching you'll get through the the crisis
As a 17 year old currently under a lot of pressure to figure out what to do with the rest of my life, thanks! A lot of the time I've felt like my failure to decide on one specific subject that I'm most interested in somehow meant that I was behind everyone else, but this video gave me some hope that it's okay that I'm interested in a lot of different things and I can still explore my interests even if I'm "supposed" to have decided by now.
Really liked the ending story about Caesar, I hadn't heard that
I've moved from the English education system to the Scottish one so I guess I can hope to get either the best of both worlds! It is really interesting seeing the differences, I much prefer the generalist approach over the specialist but having a mix of both in the world is great, they've both got their place
This resonates with my methos of blooming where I'm planted, taking my time doing it, and being prepared to kick up roots at a moments notice. Thanks Darwin, and thank you for the video, Curious Tangents.
Thank you for watching!
Dang. This video helps me feel less bad about my lack of accomplishments and specialized skills.
I came across your channel after seeing a comment of yours on a Captain Sinbad video. Severely underrated channel! The production quality is much better than I'd expect from a channel with this many subscribers. Keep it up!
Thank you! That means a lot hopefully one day I'm accurately rated
@@TravisGilbert you will be, I'm sure :)
Thank you for this, just watched the video. Lots of love from Kenya
I was really tensed about this thing today, and video popped up!
Thanks! I was feeling really terrible but this was informative and comforting simultaneously.
I love the music during the intro that has been missing.Also GREAT video!
You are a kindred spirit… grateful to find your chanel .. new sub😊
I wanna go back to school to become a paramedic but I’m 25 and I hate going back to school an old fucking man.
Needed this. Thank you
Thank you for watching!
thank you, I really needed to hear this. I've been indicicive my whole life and only recently started to partially narrow down what I want to do in life. It's good to hear that this isn't just a bad thing
I've known exactly what I want to be since age 11, and luckily this has never changed, but I also have a ton of other interests, all of which help me get better at my one core thing. One of them turned out to be my youtube, which now pays the bills even though it was never my main thing, and I love it. I've never wasted my time learning useless things because all of the things I have learned have, in a holistic way, expanded my horizons.
Serious question: How would you know if you've learned something useless or not?
This video was such good timing for me :) love these! You're great at UA-cam >:)
Thank you I really appreciate that!
You know I'm 17 and there are all these people all over the world that made their mark at that age like there is Olivia Rodrigo, Amanda gorman, Malala,the Times kid of the year,the tiktok stars, maitri from sir Lanka, and so many more. And the mere thought of it is enough to shut me down
I thought the same at your age. I’m still not sure how to lead my life a few years later. The success that people believed I could have weighed on me because I always compared myself to these other amazing people and my own past accomplishments...
I can’t tell you that I’m very successful now, but I can say that, slowly, I’ve worked towards the things I love and want to do more of, and found my passion in living again. I hope you do to. It takes a lot of kindness and patience with your perceived shortcomings, but it’s worth it.
@@treyb.6562 im gonna cry. to think a random stranger on the net might care so much. thank you sm
When I was a child I had a difficult time learning and doing well in school, from the perspective of my instructors. However, I remember being excited to go home and play. "Play," meant innovating my toys. I remember putting an electric motor on my plastic boat and watching it go. I would love drawing treasure maps and following them. But I always got in trouble for fighting, being disruptive, copying assignments, getting bad grades. I didn't get to play at recess because of it. I think i suffered social skills as well. As an adult I went into civil engineering, pipe layout design and now architecture as a draftsman. I seem to impress my superiors when it comes to problem solving. I'd say I was a late bloomer.
Your voice is amazing like documentary style voice like you can tell stories
Thanks!
that one bit of info, about julius caesar, is just fascinating to know
You mentioned the thing about the Beatles not getting signed by Decca. Here's something to think about. We tend to think about people or groups that have had a huge success as though that success was inevitable. That if anyone else did the same things at the same quality, they'd have the same success. That given any timeline or any situation, they would have succeeded.
So we give the credit here to the Beatles, but not to Brian Epstein, or to the marketing teams, or to blind chance, or to any of the probably hundreds of contributing factors that absolutely were most dominated by lucky happenstance. It is an extension of Survivor's Bias. We assume the Beatles were successful because they did something special that would have been successful under any label that signed them.
That kind of success is more largely influenced by chance than anything else. Yes, you need talent and hard work too, but there are millions of unknown brilliant musicians that have worked hard to barely eek out a living. There are dozens of bands I've discovered on Spotify that I think are brilliant that have under 100 monthly listens.
Another fine example is this channel I found with like 28,400 subs called Curious Tangents. This guy's better than 90% of the channels I watch with more than a million subs and some of those got there in the blink of an eye. Overnight. Usually by just cutting things in half, crushing them with a press or whatever.
I just dropped out of the program I have been in for 3 years, this video was very well timed for me.
Good luck on your future projects
Lingling would not agree: geniuses are born, not created
I did not know all this but I have made a life plan with the note that it can change if I want it to change, also its good to mention the positive mental health effects of letting yourself change jobs if you dislike or don't want to do what you are doing
I for one definitely love the variety of interests you have, and I suppose this has been/still is an issue for me too. I needed this so thank you for the video~
Don't let capitalism make you believe that you need to achieve something in order to enjoy your life.
Watch Soul!!
I have! It's so good!
I love this, and I relate to it immensely. 🙂
Informative and encouraging. Thanks for the great content as always 🧠✨
I really appreciate this!
This makes me feel better about myself.
That’s quite the thumbnail
An a good way or ?
@@TravisGilbert I am just imagining you posing for that at laughing to myself
I recommend checking out "Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World" by David Epstein, it covers this topic well, primarily from a Sports and Business perspective. Edit: lol I typed this comment halfway through, I see you've already checked it out!
GREAT WORK
The Decca Rejection of the Beatles because “guitar music is on the way out” is a bit of a myth. Decca signed a very similar band, Brian Poole and the Tremeloes, the very same day. Both groups were comprised of young white men, and they made Beat music with strong harmonies influenced by Buddy Holly.
There were two main differences between the bands: first, the Tremeloes were more successful up to that point, and second, the Tremeloes were from Dagenham (then in Essex, now London), which was much closer to Decca’s London base than Liverpool. The travel expenses for the Tremeloes would therefore be significantly lower. Decca simply didn’t want to say “we’re rejecting you because you’re from Liverpool” (a statement that would have come laden with connotations about the British class system) so they came up with an excuse, the same way you might turn down a date by saying you need to wash your hair rather than saying you find the asker unattractive, or tell a bad sportsperson that they’re just not tall enough to make the team rather than tell them that they’re bad at sports.
Obviously the Beatles went on to have more success than the Tremeloes, but the Tremeloes had four top ten hits and even knocked “She Loves You” off the top of the charts. They were a good pick... they just weren’t the Beatles.
Great video all the same, thank you for continuing to share your tangents.
It's all down hill after 25 .
Job well done.
I feel like this is probably the opposite of what most people think but I consider brains and psychology a kind of learning environment, there may be a lot of things we don't know about them but that doesn't make them any less predictable, for example, most abnormal psychologies can have a root in trauma that makes them more likely to develop, therefore you can infer that if someone has a whole lot of environmentally activated/developed conditions (With genetic factors or without) l; like addictions, anxiety, depression, etc, that they likely have trauma (Is this partially an excuse for me to nerd out about psychology? Yes yes it is :P )
Microwaves operate at about 2.4 gigahertz.
I am a late bloomer and I’m constantly bullied :(
I am a late bloomer till 9 th class my height was small. For my age but after 9th class my height growed very fast
Great video.
Thank you!
This is random (as are most of my comments :P ) but it would be really cool if you (probably when you have more subscribers) went on tour! I would totally go just to listen to you nerd out about stuff (it would be cool if we could partake in the nerding) also it would be even cooler if you got to do so with john and hank green because I know you like them
I've literally dreamt about this! Maybe someday
“ upon finding a wife”😂
Nice transition lol
This was so interesting!
Thank you!
love the vids keep em up :)
people say Im only supposed to be one thing well I plan on being at least 3 but probably more (:
Career paths seem a bit tricky, you can climb them based on the path you take and as you climb the skills you need can change completely. It doesn't seem to matter if you're good or bad at the relevant skills, as long as you know enough to proceed through projects.
I liked this video a lot!
Austin McDowell sent me you kinda sound like the guy on fact verse but your good bro keep it up
Hmm, do you know where the terms "Kind" and "Wicked", in this specific context of learning environments, come from? I did some googling and found various references to them... but haven't (yet, at least) dug deep enough to figure out where they come from. Like, are they acronyms or something? Or just a coinage by someone in a book somewhere? Something acknowledged broadly by a particular field? Other?
And as a side-note, the term RADAR is indeed an acronym, short for "RAdio Detection And Ranging"... The bit at 6:05 almost seemed to indicate that it somehow stood for Resonant Cavity Magnetron... and as a _term_ it does not, at all. (As a technology, they're intimately connected, so... what you say isn't wrong, it just strikes me as potentially-misleading.)
5:47 I have to correct you here. The word you should have said was "fortunately".
:P
nothing meant personally however what are you 25 years old? What could you know about late bloomers?
With a few exceptions I get bored doing the same thing after 6 months, so as long as I'm making a comfortable amount of money, what's the point in getting super specialized? If I'm a generalist at work, I get to dip my toes into a lot of different things and keep learning! And in my personal life, I can just pick up and let go of hobbies as I please
Hm. A lot of these types of conversations tend to centre arround intelligence and mental ability but I wonder how it translates to physically demanding industries like sports and mechanical work. Especially if you haven't taken care of your body in your younger years. I know it's possible but I wonder if that physical element adds anything extra to the conversation.
Interesting interesting
Nice vid
The Nazis had the issue of constanly stealing parts from their fleet unlike the English who keep spare parts and "less" of a fleet than the Nazis
4:54 To quote the book behind you, "What do [you] want to want."
i enjoyed the video but the editing was a little weird... Did you change your editing style recently or something?
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Making me try to remember stuff from my Latin class...
Ummm
GHAI oos YOO lee uhs KAI ser
according to faded memory of one Latin teacher's opinion haha
My dudes there is no advantage for most people getting girls or starting a career late.
My friend died at 32.
He was a loser with women, his career was driving doordash for 8 years and the only women he had were cheap escorts.
He got hit by a truck
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Late Boomer Advantage
early zoomer disadvantage
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I saw two titles, if you are a b testing... I like "The late bloomer advantage" better
That's really strange I haven't changed anthing What was the other title?
@@TravisGilbert my bad, it was the previous video.* "Why behind in life, how to stop". It sounds like it could be the same video but the title is more negative? Gonna watch both now. Thanks for allways talking interesting stuff :D
*You responded but I had forgotten the other title. My best guess was google translating it. I found it trying to replicate it. XD
Hes cute
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You tell too many stories instead of getting to the point.
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