215 to 265 yards. I was previously playing a Callaway Warbird (~10 years old) and recently got fit into the Paradym. I gained 50 yards immediately with a better shaft and head that suited me! Love the new driver
Brilliant review James, I always find it much more informative when youtube golfers review the drivers up against it's predecessors not just by itself. Thank you James.
I just bought the Paradym 💎💎💎. I hit it at the range yesterday without any adjustments to the loft, and I'm blown away. I hit the straightest drives I've ever had. It looks good and inspires confidence in the tee box.
I was fitted for triple diamond and G430 LST! While the Callaway was huge, if I lost it, it wouldn’t stay on the planet so went with the Ping. After playing a couple of times, I think I made the right call! Haven’t missed a fairway yet and now showing longer than I suspected thanks to increased confidence and committing to drives!
Loved the remark "you can see I've been testing this club for off-centre hits". I do a lot of testing of this. So much testing that I seem to have lost (if I ever knew where it was) the concept of using the centre of the club face. Good content - I'll get you a pint of John Smith's next time I'm in your area.
Interesting video, but don’t understand why testing ST Max LS instead of ST TD. Would have make sense when comparing with Paradym TD. Keep up the great work! 😊👍
I'm a high handicapper. Earlier this year, I bought a used Epic Speed Triple diamond LS. Consistency and distance (and sound), were markedly better than my Big Bertha Fusion.
Two weeks my Ping 425 cracked after a bit of a bad shot and I have just decided to go Callaway after 10 years with my Ping driver and I ordered from Golfbidder the Rogue ST Max and used it on Thursday and the first round played I was not expecting what happend, I hit every fairway and was about 5 yards further. No idea what I did but I love it.
In the same boat with my cobra driver. Broke after about four months but isn’t covered under warranty anymore. Unfortunately I don’t have the spare cash right now for a new one so I’m just stuck hitting 4i and an old 3W
Each iteration that comes out gets better. Taylormade used to be king of drivers but idk anymore. I just bought a new Rogue ST LS. Sold the epic speed and the stealth. 🤷♂️ Dope comparison thank u for this, great timing for alot of folks
JR, I just upgraded my Epic Flash SZ to the Paradym TD. I did it for two reasons. First the sound is glorious (I love the look as well, but didn't mind my old girl), the spin window is much better for me. Average for my SZ was around 2800-3200 where the TD is 2000-2400. The scary ones with my SZ were 3500 where the scary ones with the TD are 1500. I still like the new one better we are still getting acquainted but the sound and looks are better and when we are on the same page it is magical. Tried all the newest drivers and it is the Paradym that was best.
Awesome video! I swore nothing would get the Rogue ST 💎💎💎 Out of the bag but, Callaway definitely figured something out with this new head. For the Paradym 💎💎💎 being a low spin bomber, I found that the spin retention on the high face misses, and how the thin ones didn’t jump to 3000 plus spin was wild to me. I really haven’t seen any ball speed gains since the 2018 F9 cobra but, this thing is consistent all across the face. Love that you’re loving it as well!
I have been playing for 25 years and have never gamed a Callaway driver until this year with the Callaway triple diamond. I tested the Cobra aerojet, tsr3 , stealth 2 , g430 , The Callaway was a clear winner for me .
Been playing the Epic Max LS for a couple of seasons now and I absolutely love it. No intention of changing it any time soon, mainly because of the ballooning price of drivers now. Loved the look of both Rogue ST and Paradym, but the price tag is just too much for the marginal benefits that you showed in the video.
Not sure if you saw that video from Martin Borgmeier a few months ago - he explained it really well and it seems to be the direction Callaway are going. Drivers for use in competition are only allowed a COR limit (or CT) of 0.83 so they can't make a faster face than that. If they can't make faster faces the only thing they can do is work on off-centre hits and increase forgiveness. Which makes sense considering the Rogue ST was one of the best forgiving drivers and now so is the Paradym.
This solidifies my choice. Was able to pick up a TSi2 driver hzrdus smoke black LS shaft AND a Cobra LTDx 3 wood with Hzrdus smoke green shaft both for much less than just 1 of the new drivers out there.
I play the rouge st Ls with a LA golf trono shaft. Tried the paradigm head with the same shaft but just created high spin. For me it's all down to a good fitting as the rouge is a monster for me.
With Taylormade Staffers going back to previous versions it would be interesting to see the difference between sim and stealth. Enjoyed the comparison despite the fact I had a epic speed ls and couldn’t hit it 😂
I had the OG Epic and loved it. Long and forgiving. Went to Epic Speed and couldn’t get on with it. Moved to Epic Max and found it ok. Recently moved to Paradym Std and its the closest to the OG Epic I’ve tried. Long, even more forgiving, and has great feel and sound. More of a dull thud off the face like the OG Epic, which I love!
I have the Rogue after being fitted. I spent 2hrs and tried all the brands. For distance it wasn't the longest but for landing center and distance the Rogue passed the test. That said, may look at the Paradym because the same guy who fitted me said it's a lot lighter. I'm old with a swing speed of 90. Not sure if I will spend the money. Might buy new irons instead..😊
What i can appreciate from the Callaway is that their drivers have growth and development from year to year. You can see it gets a little better every year.
The difference I am looking for is how they differ on toe and heel strikes, the forgiveness, I know they are relatively the same on the sweet spot, show us a toe comparo and a heel comparo
My son just bought the brand new latest Callaway driver and when he was using it to tee off the shaft broke off the adapter tip so he took it back and they actually gave him a brand new one and as he got home and took the head cover off the light grayish paint job that goes around the face was not complete and had almost a white streak in it. He took it back and got a totally different brand he had enough of Callaway and they’re junk
I think the main thing is that newer clubs have more consistency out the face than ones that are a bit older. To me, that may be worth it. It is pretty expensive though for a paradym.
LOVE Callaway products, their irons were always great, but now the whole line is GREAT! I game the Apex 21 irons and the Apex 21 hybrids they are all super LOOONG and ultra forgiving!
Lots of Birdies on the course which is always a good thing. I play SIM2 OS's, and Im considering buying some STEALTHS or PARADYM X IRONS. GREAT video doing that line up of CALLAWAY drivers. Informative and impressive. Like the way you OWNED UP to that one bad swing over the treeline. It was still WAY MUCH BETTER than one of my bad swings 😂😂😂😂
if there is no more than 5 yards difference then I took rouge st without a doubt because I saw paradigm at a golf fair and personally I thought it was ugly so I didn't try it. but luckily taste is personal
Get out of my head. Just put my Epic back into the bag and I am dropping bombs. I agree with your comments that I might be focusing more because it is an "older" model.
Just bought the max les form last year (new one with price drop)… I prefer the mat finish of it, the glossy finish scratch so easily and looks bad rapidly… first drives not bad… but still looking for my best « pairing »… I love so much the Rogue Fairway wood… but not yet convince that the Driver is good for me :(
I've got a Rogue triple diamond that I got from Callaway pre- owned. I wanted to see how it faired against my Epic Max. As you described with the Paradym, it's not very forgiving, but if I catch it, it really goes. Makes me reconsider if I'm going to shell out a ton of cash on the Paradym
Wanted to love the Epic Speed, but have gone back to Cobra F9. Paradym might be a big enough jump forward to consider, by the results you get from it...
Owned all 3 in standard & loved all 3 but Paradym is my favourite - Callaways record revenues say it all really 😁 Rogue best for money & if you prefer matt head - were the shafts different?
Hi James. I have never been fitted for a driver but I’m seriously thinking about at the moment ( too many missed fairways). Cost obviously a big factor and all the callaway drivers seem to perform pretty similarly. Only problem if budget is key can you still get a fitting for a model that is not in the current line up and may be a couple of years old? Talking of fitting how many clubs do you think you can actually squeeze in that pencil golf bag ? 😆
Honestly I’m surprised he didn’t include the 2018 Rogue in this comparison too. I have that Rogue and it’s honestly phenomenal. You can find a used one for cheap
Nice, but the quiestion forma most of us is about the non low spin models, Mavrik, Epic Speed, Rogue ST Max, and Paradym. Which one is the best (longest)?
James, I really like your videos! Very entertaining! However, one thing bothers me, get a larger golf bag. You are ruining your grips by jamming your clubs into that small carry bag.
James, please check out Giles Gill Golf, this guy has the best instruction on YT in my opinion. He just needs some help getting out there. You won't be disappointed.
215 to 265 yards. I was previously playing a Callaway Warbird (~10 years old) and recently got fit into the Paradym. I gained 50 yards immediately with a better shaft and head that suited me! Love the new driver
Brilliant review James, I always find it much more informative when youtube golfers review the drivers up against it's predecessors not just by itself. Thank you James.
I just bought the Paradym 💎💎💎. I hit it at the range yesterday without any adjustments to the loft, and I'm blown away. I hit the straightest drives I've ever had. It looks good and inspires confidence in the tee box.
I was fitted for triple diamond and G430 LST! While the Callaway was huge, if I lost it, it wouldn’t stay on the planet so went with the Ping. After playing a couple of times, I think I made the right call! Haven’t missed a fairway yet and now showing longer than I suspected thanks to increased confidence and committing to drives!
I agree with you, except I was fitted for the TSr and LST, went with the latter as the dispersion was tighter
Your epic speed is an epic max. 😂 😂
Callaway preowned is the greatest secret out there. When their clubs are on sale the prices are below the used market and in better condition.
I literally scour that place almost daily! Got a great set of irons and wedges plus a uw in like new condition for a steal of a price
@@benmartinez8995 me too! I got wedges and woods this year, like new for crazy prices
Had the first XR driver and loved it. Changed it for Cobra F9 but would definitely try the rogue ST but paradym I don't like the look of it.
Loved the remark "you can see I've been testing this club for off-centre hits". I do a lot of testing of this. So much testing that I seem to have lost (if I ever knew where it was) the concept of using the centre of the club face. Good content - I'll get you a pint of John Smith's next time I'm in your area.
Interesting video, but don’t understand why testing ST Max LS instead of ST TD. Would have make sense when comparing with Paradym TD. Keep up the great work! 😊👍
I'm a high handicapper. Earlier this year, I bought a used Epic Speed Triple diamond LS. Consistency and distance (and sound), were markedly better than my Big Bertha Fusion.
Two weeks my Ping 425 cracked after a bit of a bad shot and I have just decided to go Callaway after 10 years with my Ping driver and I ordered from Golfbidder the Rogue ST Max and used it on Thursday and the first round played I was not expecting what happend, I hit every fairway and was about 5 yards further. No idea what I did but I love it.
In the same boat with my cobra driver. Broke after about four months but isn’t covered under warranty anymore. Unfortunately I don’t have the spare cash right now for a new one so I’m just stuck hitting 4i and an old 3W
@@StevelandCleamer have a look at golf bidder you can pay with Klarma over 3 months that's how I have done mine
Each iteration that comes out gets better. Taylormade used to be king of drivers but idk anymore. I just bought a new Rogue ST LS. Sold the epic speed and the stealth. 🤷♂️ Dope comparison thank u for this, great timing for alot of folks
JR, I just upgraded my Epic Flash SZ to the Paradym TD. I did it for two reasons. First the sound is glorious (I love the look as well, but didn't mind my old girl), the spin window is much better for me. Average for my SZ was around 2800-3200 where the TD is 2000-2400. The scary ones with my SZ were 3500 where the scary ones with the TD are 1500. I still like the new one better we are still getting acquainted but the sound and looks are better and when we are on the same page it is magical. Tried all the newest drivers and it is the Paradym that was best.
Awesome video! I swore nothing would get the Rogue ST 💎💎💎 Out of the bag but, Callaway definitely figured something out with this new head. For the Paradym 💎💎💎 being a low spin bomber, I found that the spin retention on the high face misses, and how the thin ones didn’t jump to 3000 plus spin was wild to me. I really haven’t seen any ball speed gains since the 2018 F9 cobra but, this thing is consistent all across the face. Love that you’re loving it as well!
I have been playing for 25 years and have never gamed a Callaway driver until this year with the Callaway triple diamond. I tested the Cobra aerojet, tsr3 , stealth 2 , g430 , The Callaway was a clear winner for me .
Been playing the Epic Max LS for a couple of seasons now and I absolutely love it. No intention of changing it any time soon, mainly because of the ballooning price of drivers now. Loved the look of both Rogue ST and Paradym, but the price tag is just too much for the marginal benefits that you showed in the video.
Not sure if you saw that video from Martin Borgmeier a few months ago - he explained it really well and it seems to be the direction Callaway are going.
Drivers for use in competition are only allowed a COR limit (or CT) of 0.83 so they can't make a faster face than that. If they can't make faster faces the only thing they can do is work on off-centre hits and increase forgiveness. Which makes sense considering the Rogue ST was one of the best forgiving drivers and now so is the Paradym.
This solidifies my choice. Was able to pick up a TSi2 driver hzrdus smoke black LS shaft AND a Cobra LTDx 3 wood with Hzrdus smoke green shaft both for much less than just 1 of the new drivers out there.
Another great video. Big fan of Callaway ⛳
Great video I've been waiting for this exact comparison since I currently have the rogue driver
Picked up the Epic this past winter, same set up you have, and it beat everything else I tested & it was half the price.
I play the rouge st Ls with a LA golf trono shaft. Tried the paradigm head with the same shaft but just created high spin. For me it's all down to a good fitting as the rouge is a monster for me.
I got this driver, best club I've owned. Used the previous model, this one is the best
Great video James!
The paradigm looks mint, I’ll definitely be getting one in the future when the ridiculous price comes down 🏌🏿♂️
With Taylormade Staffers going back to previous versions it would be interesting to see the difference between sim and stealth. Enjoyed the comparison despite the fact I had a epic speed ls and couldn’t hit it 😂
I had the OG Epic and loved it. Long and forgiving. Went to Epic Speed and couldn’t get on with it. Moved to Epic Max and found it ok. Recently moved to Paradym Std and its the closest to the OG Epic I’ve tried. Long, even more forgiving, and has great feel and sound. More of a dull thud off the face like the OG Epic, which I love!
Rogue is where it's at for me when I compared it directly to Paradym. Hit it longer, straighter and felt like it was more forgiving.
I have the Rogue after being fitted. I spent 2hrs and tried all the brands. For distance it wasn't the longest but for landing center and distance the Rogue passed the test. That said, may look at the Paradym because the same guy who fitted me said it's a lot lighter. I'm old with a swing speed of 90. Not sure if I will spend the money. Might buy new irons instead..😊
Just switched from the Epic max LS to Paradigm driver. I hit my Max LS good, but just feel so much more comfortable with Paradigm
I agree with you, if you get them in the right spot, not going to be that much of a difference, My favorite driver is still the TaylorMade M5
Me too.
Interesting how the Epic Speed was furthest on the course and Paradym indoors - shows the importance of trying clubs on the course before buying 👍
What i can appreciate from the Callaway is that their drivers have growth and development from year to year. You can see it gets a little better every year.
It gets $600 better each year*
Awesome vid! In my opinion, these companies are putting new paint jobs with 1 or 2 more sellable gimmicks. Same clubs essentially.
It would be interesting to see the 816 Alpha Double Black Diamond included. It was a very long hitting driver.
I came for the pheasants walking the course.
I thought you said peasants😂
The difference I am looking for is how they differ on toe and heel strikes, the forgiveness, I know they are relatively the same on the sweet spot, show us a toe comparo and a heel comparo
Still not ready to move on from the Callaway Mavrik, damn near impossible to hook and slice 🤣
My son just bought the brand new latest Callaway driver and when he was using it to tee off the shaft broke off the adapter tip so he took it back and they actually gave him a brand new one and as he got home and took the head cover off the light grayish paint job that goes around the face was not complete and had almost a white streak in it. He took it back and got a totally different brand he had enough of Callaway and they’re junk
Hello James have you tested the srixon ls driver yet ? I remember when you tested srixon drivers you didn't test the ls model
I think the main thing is that newer clubs have more consistency out the face than ones that are a bit older. To me, that may be worth it. It is pretty expensive though for a paradym.
LOVE Callaway products, their irons were always great, but now the whole line is GREAT! I game the Apex 21 irons and the Apex 21 hybrids they are all super LOOONG and ultra forgiving!
Good stuff James. Personally I think drivers are a hype marketing business.
I believe that the Epic Speed came out on top in My Golf Spy's 2021 most wanted driver testing.
When filming that last hole James could be really fun having a camera setup on the green :D
I’d say the Mavrik has been the best since Epic Flash….. Mega long and sounds insane
Lots of Birdies on the course which is always a good thing. I play SIM2 OS's, and Im considering buying some STEALTHS or PARADYM X IRONS. GREAT video doing that line up of CALLAWAY drivers. Informative and impressive. Like the way you OWNED UP to that one bad swing over the treeline. It was still WAY MUCH BETTER than one of my bad swings 😂😂😂😂
if there is no more than 5 yards difference then I took rouge st without a doubt because I saw paradigm at a golf fair and personally I thought it was ugly so I didn't try it. but luckily taste is personal
Get out of my head. Just put my Epic back into the bag and I am dropping bombs. I agree with your comments that I might be focusing more because it is an "older" model.
Just bought the max les form last year (new one with price drop)… I prefer the mat finish of it, the glossy finish scratch so easily and looks bad rapidly… first drives not bad… but still looking for my best « pairing »… I love so much the Rogue Fairway wood… but not yet convince that the Driver is good for me :(
Loved this test James and I would like to see you do the same test with other brands
In a couple of years I will be looking to trade in the Speed for the Paradym when the price is reasonable.
I've got a Rogue triple diamond that I got from Callaway pre- owned. I wanted to see how it faired against my Epic Max. As you described with the Paradym, it's not very forgiving, but if I catch it, it really goes. Makes me reconsider if I'm going to shell out a ton of cash on the Paradym
Not worth it I’d say. $600 for a 0.5% increase in performance
Love the football references 😂
Want to hear about the PXGs in the bag
Wanted to love the Epic Speed, but have gone back to Cobra F9. Paradym might be a big enough jump forward to consider, by the results you get from it...
Owned all 3 in standard & loved all 3 but Paradym is my favourite - Callaways record revenues say it all really 😁 Rogue best for money & if you prefer matt head - were the shafts different?
Am I the only one who misses. "Let's do it, and let's do it now."?
2001 epic speed 😂 they also had the rogue st 🔸🔸🔸 at stores in the US
I bought the Epic Max LS earlier this year for $275us brand new. Its great, but not super forgiving.
love my Rogue ST Ls Driver ....
I got fitted and ended up with the Rogue ST triple diamond.
Rogue has the best head cover. Paradym head cover looks cheap to me. Something about the big shiny vinyl middle patch is off putting to me.
Hi James. I have never been fitted for a driver but I’m seriously thinking about at the moment ( too many missed fairways). Cost obviously a big factor and all the callaway drivers seem to perform pretty similarly. Only problem if budget is key can you still get a fitting for a model that is not in the current line up and may be a couple of years old? Talking of fitting how many clubs do you think you can actually squeeze in that pencil golf bag ? 😆
Honestly I’m surprised he didn’t include the 2018 Rogue in this comparison too. I have that Rogue and it’s honestly phenomenal. You can find a used one for cheap
A friend who works in the business reckons change clubs every 4 to 5 years to get noticeable improvements worth spending the money on.
In essence $600 for the new model is basically a waste of money unless someone demands the additional 5-7 yards.
3-4 yards when you carry driver 276 ain’t shit. pick the one that is forgiving and looks and sounds good to you and that won’t break your budget
I’m using the epic driver now… definitely faster from my previous Honma.
Rogue max ls (new) or Paradym (used excellent)… same price which one you choosing?
I enjoyed this video and I think that if I was to choose one for me it would be the Epic speed. That said I think I'll stick with my Taylormade M4
Hey watch it, the Mavrik is a beast
Nice, but the quiestion forma most of us is about the non low spin models, Mavrik, Epic Speed, Rogue ST Max, and Paradym. Which one is the best (longest)?
I traded my epic flash for the epic speed after trying it in a hitting bay. Haven't regretted it.
It’s not the plane, it’s the pilot. 👍🏻
would you say the same applies to the stealth 2 vs sim 2 vs m5?
surely its a yes
Please get a bigger bag, or a second one 😊
James, I really like your videos! Very entertaining! However, one thing bothers me, get a larger golf bag. You are ruining your grips by jamming your clubs into that small carry bag.
Can I just borrow your driver swing? 😂
Dude! Did you really drive up that close to the green?
The BRUTAL TRUTH THAT WILL CHANGE THIS VIDEO Forever is that it wasn't an epic speed
You don’t like the gold color way and I never liked the green. It all comes down to personal preferences.
What about the maverik?
If I could I would buy Paradym.
I just hate the look of the Paradym, the colour, the bit of Lego on the back of the crown🤮
Love your videos 😂but why the negative wolves comment?up the wolves
James, please check out Giles Gill Golf, this guy has the best instruction on YT in my opinion. He just needs some help getting out there. You won't be disappointed.
Hey James. Love the videos but for god sake get a bigger golf bag!! I cringe when I watch you try to stuff your clubs into that bag!!
Stop with the misleading titles…it’s getting old
Rogue line was dog 💩.. whole line was horrible and draw bias
You screwd up on the date(2001) and your shorts!😅
I have a few mates that still play the Epic Flash driver and fairway woods! 🐊🏌🦅🇺🇸⛳️❤️