Google boss struggles to persuade MPs no sales made in UK
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2013
- Tax row: Google Vice President Matt Brittin faced incredulity from MPs as they questioned his assertion that none of the company's sales activity actually took place in the UK, contrary to the testimony of whistleblowing former employees. .
You know a company is untouchable when they host it on their video platform and suggest for me to watch.
Ho ho! Pretty funny
thats because people protect companies like google
When you say untouchable do you mean innocent until proven guilty. I am sure that is the law under which I wish to live.
Dunno if anyone gives a damn but if you're stoned like me during the covid times then you can watch pretty much all of the new series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my gf for the last couple of weeks =)
@Anson Gabriel yea, I've been watching on InstaFlixxer for years myself :D
The irony... MP's getting frustrated over someone not giving a straight answer
Isn't that good?????????
@@jacobmacaree3063 It is good, it's just ironic that the very people famous for not giving straight answers, are the same people that are frustrated that they aren't getting a straight answer
@@jacobmacaree3063 Not when tax avoidance is happening.
True.
@@adambrickley1119 do politicians get questions like this guy , then are as guilty as this guy
He should be a politician. He’s better at it than them.
Lol was just about to say the exact same thing
He probably gets paid too much 😂
That concerned look with those eyebrows is a weapon.
@@bardslee 137 million a year according to wiki. though he probably wrote that himself.
That’s why he’s an executive instead, because if you’re good at not giving straight answers you can get paid for it handsomely.
If they were really serious, the HRMC and police would investigate Google properly within the full extent of the law. If they found Google could be, or is, actually defrauding the HRMC then it would go to a court of law. Cases like this will never go to court because if Google or any other big corporation/business were to be found guilty, the precedence would be set in law. And that would open the floodgates for all corporations/businesses evading tax to be subject to criminal proceedings. Having a ministerial enquiry means it's all done for show, a few high profile businessmen are put on the spot, made to squirm a little for the sake of public scrutiny and the politicians put on a show that they're doing their best for the public. Nothing however changes, the corporations and businesses carry on with business as usual and the government looks like it has done something. It's a soap opera for government to show the public.
Given google is known to be seeded by and was a start up born out of the NSA and CIA and their specific strategy to create mass data gathering and “birds of a feather” surveillance, with links and access very much part of the ongoing deal years later, there’s a good reason why they ultimately do not get investigated and pushed too hard to follow the law/tax regulations.
I use Google, but do so in the knowledge that everything is tracked, analysed at macro level and available to be analysed at micro level should I look at anything bordering on security concern that flags up.
Anyone who doesn’t know this and uses Google and especially Google-map tech on their smart devices may be surprised to learn the extent that their data, content and physical movement is available to be scrutinised.
These Corps all employ ex HMRC tax experts, or use their services as consultants. So it’s no wonder they manage to slip out of any HMRC net. I suspect that HMRC prefers to go after low hanging fruit rather than get caught up in years of legal wrangling with big Corps.
Spot on and I bet he'll get a bonus for his troubles..
Or it’s not as controlled as that and they really are that toothless and incapable of going after big business.
@@joemcneff2521 I would suspect a bit of both but I would lean more to the side of politicians being 'toothless' as they would, personally, lose massive financial gain. It's not politicians who are in charge or decide how this country is run, it's the business, media and financial corporations.
Rather ironic that its MP's who are saying that he should call a spade a spade, and upset that he refuses to answer a question with "yes" or "no". Annoying isn't it?
Only someone who doesn't know anything about politics believes 'politicians' are a single, homogenous group
@@peterfairfax 90% are though.
@@peterfairfax ok. Please link here any single video of any single politician giving a clear and straight yes or no answer to a yes or no question, with the caveat that they also weren't lying when they did so? I think you will struggle to find anything to link.
@@MrMoekanz one year later and we're still waiting for that link lol
Politicians being frustrated about vague answers avoiding questions. The irony..
In summary:
"I'm not aware of the rules and technicalities but I don't think Google owes anyone tax"
If i don't know how tax things work can I not pay tax then please.
@@Sharpe2007Dent idk how it works in the UK, but in Canada if you try to open a business they get your statement that you will follow the tax laws and maintain proper accounting or contract someone do it for you. That makes you accountable and liable
Is it the CEOs job to be an expert on british tax laws? No, his job is to delegate to people that are experts in their field in order to maximize profit for his shareholders. You cant be an expert in every field regarding your international company.
@Perseus1275 Ha, yes, thats why he got the position of VP, because he isnt good at delegating. Makes no sense, but go off king. What job do you have, just asking ;)
@@steoderfragt1821 Well yeah... If you're going to persuade someone, you kinda want to know what you're talking about... Didn't think I needed to explain that one 😂
Why they have these enquiries nothing will change. Its a political performance.
For this reason they are actually damaging, basically just an enabler for the governments misconduct.
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These things will NEVER fail to make me laugh because the person who is being grilled can NEVER answer a straight question with a straight answer!!
Because they are not allowed to. It’s their job, most average people would do the exact same thing.
The problem happens when, if a straight answer is given, it is artificially ladened with false conclusions.
**Court case to determine if a man has cheated**
"In your entire life, have you ever looked at a women?"
- "Yes"
"The man has pleaded guilty your honor"
why would he give a straight answer to the govt? only plebs and sheep go bah bah, smart savy businessmen dont bend for govt, they do what this guy is doing, fighiting back by NOT giving them the power of questioning/answers.
Maybe some answered cannot be straight, have you ever thought about that? Maybe some answers are complex.
And here we are 9 years later and nothings changed. Surely Googles tax bill is a big enough prize worth chasing? They'd put more effort in collecting a parking ticket.
A lot of lobbying. They already paid the upper eccellon to not pry further as simple as that
Google's tax bill could easily be used to pay for the hoteliers to keep our oversea friends happy,.....for a while.
It has changed - Digital Services Tax now applies as of 2021
Pretty sure that in 2015, Google paid around 0.001% tax, it equated to millions but imagine if you or I tried paying that percentage in tax, we'd be getting bummed in the showers within a week
If you are the politician that got google/youtube blocked in your country cause you went after them your career is over. ;)
Not to mention google can also just bankroll the voting campaigns of any rivals.
This guy tells better lies than the politicians who are questioning him
Because the best bullshiters work in the private sector not the public.
He knows the same lies they use and that's why he's smiling at them.
It is a tax question to him, as FOR TAX PURPOSES the sales would take place wherever they say it does to pay as little tax as they can 🤦♂️
And then they will tell us that they are better with self checking.
Ah Google, a proud Irish company
Politicians always ask yes or no questions but never answer them.
Yeah but in this case they are at least acting in our interest.
Or pretending to
@@callummunro5400 scrounging more taxes that they can backroom deal to their mates
That's because the questions they ask aren't binary.
*Man owns a house but doesn't live there so they get a reduced council tax bill*
*Gets taken to court over not paying council tax*
Prosecutor: Are you aware you should be paying council tax?
Home owner: The property is unvacated s....
Prosecutor: YES OR NO? ITS A SIMPLE QUESTION
Stealing tax money for shareholders when it’s taking money away from society should be a criminal act, this loophole needs to stop and the government has the power to do it....this is just a piece of theatre
@Qasim I disagree, they are a business, they sell products that create taxes due ....if you watch the video it’s clearly stated, therefore, like any other business they should pay their taxes to the country where the goods are sold, these are loopholes and literally taking prosperity from society .....it is a form of theft
The shareholders are you and me. Our pensions and investment funds own the shares. We are benefiting rather than the government giving the money to scroungers
@@leea659 I agree with the first part of your statement but the second part makes you sound like a right wing Daily Mail reader, am I right?
@@hirsutebodkin6888 I would say Center right. Telegraph reader
@@leea659 Which scroungers are you talking about out of interest?
Love the line “i’m not an expert”.
Ignorance is bliss
well he has been thoroughly briefed on how to answer these questions, its all legal speak. Do you think he waltzed into this hearing?
@@2011hwalker No but he certainly waltzed out
He also absolutely will know the ins and outs as a part of his job so it’s feigned ignorance.
They are trying to ask moral questions and he is answering with a legal answer. MPs could close tax loopholes overnight if they wanted to but there's a reason they do not.
Why don't they
No they cant, a new loophole will then be discovered. You have no idea what your talking about lol.
@@terribleanimator4789 For example tax breaks are introduced into the British film industry to encourage creativity and stimulate our cultural standing in the world, and then wealthy people invest their profits into film so they can avoid paying tax.
See the case against Richard Driscoll and his investors in the making of the film Eldorado.
The government wants to stimulate this industry so they offer tax breaks, which drives investment, but then it also encourages unscrupulous millionaires to take advantage of the system.
@@brettharter143 there's no such thing as a loophole, they are tax laws that are designed to help the rich avoid tax......you don't know what you're talking about.
@@brettharter143 there's no such thing as a loophole if they wanted to tax them fairly they're simply in bed with them
Look fold, we ain’t paying more tax in the UK. Can I go now?
If only there were people in that room that had the power to change the rules........
you mean like pollies ??
In honesty, I have learnt over many years that when someone tries to force you to give a "Yes or no" answer, you should always refuse and insist on elaborating. "Yes or no" questions are designed to trap you into agreeing to statements or views that you do not, or to have you confess to an action that you didn't do.
Except it IS a yes or no question. That mother f*cker knows very well they are stealing money from all the countries and he does not care.
Tis true, but sometimes they are useful in sussing out a contradiction or weak point in the argument of the accused
@@davyroger3773 Absolutely. But that's why if you're the one who's accused, you should never answer a yes/no question.
Something annoying about watching mp’s who never ever ever answer a question straight, getting annoyed at someone for behaving how they have for the past 50 years
9 years ago…….and NOTHING has changed!,,,,
This is a lot more straight forward than what it looks like in this video, none of this matters, its like getting a subpoena in america.
These guys only meat for lawful purposes and legal obligations, the truth is nothing ever will come out of these meetings, nothing will ever change either because Google and companies follow the law exactly how its written, especially in UK.
Having headquarters abroad in states with 0 taxes, and claiming losses in UK, etc etc etc.. its all just the law at it was written.. all this show is for the public, and required by law to happen if X triggers Y, but everyone in this meeting already knows everything before it even starts, and nothing will change regardless what its said or questioned.
Why, this man appears to be evasive, economical with the truth and unwilling to give a straight answer. I wonder, has he ever considered a career in politics? 🤔🤔
It's about time they started waterboarding these executives of tax avoiding companies...
Gets asked the same questions in Ireland & answers that the sales are taking place in the UK...win win!!
It's sold in the UK.....
Businesses try and say it's sold in a location that bennifits them....not reality
The laws are outdated. Before Internet, selling occurred on location, now a sever can be anywhere in the world
@@antonydandrea ..it doesn't matter WHERE the server is...but where is the product located. Where is the seller located. These are the questions....not where you can pretend to be located in a fantasy world.
BHPB tried this in Oz, by setting up a company in Singapore!
Total construct to evade OZ tax.
Bottom line, the tax office grew a pair and stuffed them. Years and millions later BHPB paid tax!
@@jamesmurphy7442 wow did not know that... thanks for sharing. I like to share information and to get information. It's most excellent in the 370° arena.
Always look up.... that is the one place most people don't look.
Bennifits. 🤣🤣🤣
Interesting how this hasn’t got that much views I wonder Google
The video is almost 8 years old. Loads of C4 videos from back in 2013 have less than 1,000 views because back in 2013 they were a nothing channel with very few subscribers.
@@RyanADillon don’t bother with the tinfoil hat karens
Many years ago - centuries, in fact - business owners would be summoned once a year to the village hall where they would declare their earnings and pay tithes (taxes). The wealthiest would be proud to be seen supporting their communities, and were well respected.
These days it's almost rude to ask someone about their earnings, businesses hide behind a mask, and community spirit has given way to the pursuit of personal wealth and consumerism. Large corporations provide jobs but do everything they can to avoid taxes, or give anything positive to society at all.
The world's full of c***s.
I agree, bunch of pricks
Centuries ago tax burden was nothing compared to modern "standards". So no wonder. It is crazy to withdraw more than 50% of GDP in taxes and yet it happens. There are number of studies on tax tolerance threshold: it is higher in small uniform communities and lower in large socially-differentiated federal states, it is obvious that for multinational companies it is even lower.
@@yko787 What country is that where 50% of the GDP goes to taxes? I checked the US and it's about 10%, I find those 50% of yours highly suspicious.
@@HungryLoki How did you get 10%? Google tax to GDP ratio, the first link yields 26,6% lookup in wikipedia "List of sovereign states by tax revenue to GDP ratio" there are a number of links there that show some European countries cross 50% ratio in recent years. My own source was from non-english book on history of economic growth that states that by 1980 government spendig (not income) in Austria Belgium and Sweeden cross 50% GDP mark (OECD historical statistics 1960-1993 OECD 1995, p. 72) In Ireland government spending almost doubled from 1960-1980 period. By the way in 1913 government income to GDP in USA was 7%.
Have a law that forces tech companies to pay tax in the country they trade in (not where they are based). Enforce the law. Fine the companies breaking the law. Then the working class don't have to struggle because big tech evades laws allowing them to pay a fraction of their profits instead of the true tax percentages.
Google is one of the top contributors to the British economy, if nothing else, then in the thousands of people they employ here. They have the UK Government in their back pocket. They wouldn't dare upset them.
That's not how this works at all
@@snaky7812 They work in Ireland which isn't part of the UK
@@kamelionify google has thousands of employees in the uk
Defending the indefensible in front of a panel who themselves treat question avoidance like their own tax avoidance
Why don't we just change the wording of the law: "If the customer is in the UK, the sale is considered to take place in the UK"
Yes. I am watching this in the UK, UA-cam is an ad platform, I watch ads, yes you are selling, pay tax
He says “customers in the UK” accidentally, billed from Ireland, but on a clear UK deal. Extracting money from UK firms to a different place to save corporation tax. Disgusting that the UK’s lax laws allow this.
These companies like to think they live in a fairytale universe where the general rules of society are beneath them and don't apply to them.
9 years later and they still aren’t paying tax. So this achieved nowt.
The UK owns a few tax havens, if they are worried about people not paying their fair share, maybe they need to closing down their own tax havens and tax loophole laws instead of getting angry at someone for exploiting them.
I cannot help but notice you're complaining about politicians doing their actual jobs for a change. Maybe your attitude is self defeating?
@@clairestark9024 this is effectively one robber baron being annoyed that another isn’t paying him
@@riikki___ no its being a dumb shill for corporations a is bad distrust a ergo I'm going to muddy the waters on b.
The scary thing is they don't even pay people to do this.
@@clairestark9024 You're very ignorant and naïve. Please educate yourself!
They don't "own" anything. And whilst I think tax havens should come into compliance with international transparency standards, it will be for nothing if 1. Corporations are just allowed to get away with dodging taxes anyway or 2. the tax code allows them to shuffle money around and get away with not paying taxes.
The problem is with domestic taxation policies and their enforcement, not some outside evil. The UK government has the power to get all it's tax money if it wanted to go after it genuinely. As it is this is just toothless posturing, nothing substantial will happen to google and the honest taxpayer will continue to suffer these people getting away with negative taxes.
He should have said that google pays VAT on the sale in the UK. But the tax on profits is rightly paid in Ireland where the European company is HQ'd
In your comment 'rightly' is glossing over a lot.
But the tax on profits is rightly paid in Ireland where the European company is HQ'd - BUT the deduction by a business trading with Google is paid in UK - so no tax but paid deductions - lose lose
The phrase he's actually. Meaning to avoid saying is for the purpose of tax evasion..Obviously he will never admit sales are made in the UK to precisely avoid any tax to be paid on that sale.
This Google head is a suss character, this is a hornets nest sitting on a barrel of snakes in side a cubed full of skeletons in a haunted house built over a grave yard & throw in some slime with that !
make the law better and prosecute breaches. what's the point of these embarrassing committees?
This is proof big business is more powerful than government.
So if I want to Claim for a refund from Google for poor service, and they don’t respond and I have to take them to court, would I have to go to Ireland ?
This is exactly why having geographic jurisdictions doesn't make sense any more. It made sense when 95% of all economics involved farming. Now we need a government of medicine, a government of media, a government of transportation, etc. Not a government of Ireland and a government of Mexico.
he should Google the answers to some of the questions. Blatant tax evasion me thinks. Ireland has given the likes of Amazon and Google a free bus pass including the damn bus!
7 years on ... no change here
Google have the best tax lawyers on the planet so I guarantee they are not breaking the law
They make so much money yet they're so arrogant about paying basic tax
Google - We Will Avoid Tax at every opportunity
You know it's going to be a lie whatever comes out of their mouths when after the 3rd ask it's still waffle.
Funny, if I got grilled by the hmrc for not paying enough Corp tax, I wonder if I could use the phrase "Well I'm not actually a tax expert"
No? Then stop the meeting and then demand they send someone in the company who is
2:30 "I've tried to describe very clearly..." A representative of the pinnacle of human righteousness cannot give a straight answer.
If anyone ever wondered what a well-oiled eel looks like, there you go.
Try grabbing hold of it.
More slippery than a worm in a bucket of snot.
Of course the sale takes place in Ireland but the purchase takes place in the U.K.
all of us buy things online from a whole range of countries around the world and in doing that the purchase takes place in whatever country the purchaser is based and the sale takes place in whatever country the seller is based. Surely that’s clear to anybody with more than two brain cells.
and for a business buying such services they claim a tax deduction , not in country of purchase but the UK etc lose lose
So then Google shouldn't be taxed in the UK as they did not make a sale in the UK, right? A lot of people in the comments seem to think that Google is not paying any tax at all to anyone, but they're being taxed by Ireland.
...and this is why I never use Google for anything.
For forty years this problem exist with Ireland . No progress is being made .
These politicians appear to only offer frustration not solutions..
If the MPs don’t like the game change the rules
When he claimed to not know the tax laws, they could’ve suggested he google it???
Hungry British Politicians always trying to get a bigger slice
I need to ask that guy how to bullsh*t my way out of PAYE and national insurance.
If the sale is in Ireland, why does it take place every time we view an ad here?
The irony of a British institution accusing any other country of ‘stealing’ from U.K. 😂😂😂😂😂
Yours in
Schadenfreude, most sincerely
Ireland 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Corrupt fighting the Corrupt. UTTER MADNESS
oh look. a round of liars acusing each other. where is my popcorn??
Just stall them 😂, I feel like being a good politician is all about knowing how to repeating yourself without sounding like you are repeating yourself
'I'm not a tax expert' seems to be the standard reply. Committee: 'Are you aware that case law in the US and the UK says that the sale takes place in the country where the customer is? Reply: 'I'm not aware of the rules, ' well he should be after this session and as Vice President, why is he so ignorant? They're simply tax evaders and HMRC should get after them. Also, it's no good having select committees if the government ignores their conclusions.
one of my biggest beefs in politics (an in general) is the ”yes or no” ultimatum. Can’t tell if it’s really smart or a cheap wat of backing someone into a corner, and to make them look daft.
More like "MPs struggle to get Google boss to fall into obvious trap"
He schooled the politicians! 😄
These big companies want jumping on and fast .it really pisses me off .
The Sales office is in Ireland, the domicile of the service is in Ireland. The service generally is advertising. The advertising is generally loaded via a computer in the UK via a modem and onto a telephone cable. The advertisement is loaded onto the Facebook website which is on an offshore server. The ad is accessed generally from a UK computer that accesses the Facebook website which is loaded onto an offshore server. The service provided is largely the use of the Facebook Intellectual Property which is legally located in the West Indies, and access to the Facebook Site which is on an offshore server farm. Although the load and access is in the UK, the website is offshore, the contract was with a company within the EU so not subject to VAT. Its a hard thing to define and needs a legal expert. It is either a political stunt or politically nieve to expect him to answer such a loaded question.
Make them restrict their sales to Ireland.
Amazing how these directors just don’t seem to know the answers ever
Try this.
Whenever money leaves the country, it gets taxed.
No deductions.
No exemptions.
No amount limits (big or small).
If Google want to spend the money in the country, great.
But if they try to remove it, it gets taxed.
Call it a "departure tax".
these are the processes leading to the downfall end stage of a stagnated society. Massive corporation smiling and arguing about our simple human linguistics instead of policy. These people are key influencers of our modern state
I would rather Google keep the money they earned it! Plus they will spend it better than a bureaucrat 🍾keeping jobless trapped
Like the man said he is not an expert. he is just there to BS.
How relevant for the 1st January Corporation Tax deadline
2:52 "the place of the sale is the place where the customer is"
So, if I buy something from China, they are subject to our laws? Good luck with that one mate.
Regarding tax, yes. Regarding product and packaging no
Considering that that's how trade rules work... Yeah...
Come on Google we know this is just about avoiding tax in a country where you make lots of money. It's not nice is it?
He didn't seem to know much !
EVERYTHING is theatre.
Well looks like I'll be cancelling my Google One subscription if that's how they are going to play it
As an ordinary bog standard UK resident I can't even 'avoid' paying tax. It is not illegal but the banking cartel in UK wont give you a bank account if you do it..I bet Google get a business account with these same banks?
There is no law for big business. They can do whatever they want, and they do all the time. Everyone else is a peasant slave.
Google Ireland owns most of the tech and license it out to google in each country. A sale takes place in the UK but if Ireland Google charged UK Google 0.01$ more than they earned it suddenly becomes an untaxable loss in the eyes of Google UK. That’s how this happens.
One lot of question avoiders you another ……his next job could be a politician …..
The longer the answer the more obvious the denial, deviation and deflection.
It is clear that the Google Executive is being extremely evasive , to the point of acting in a greasy and dishonest manner .
The sort of answer I would expect to come from legal advisers , acting for Merchant Bankers , and the Fanny May Scammers a decade ago .
It seems to me the bigger the organisation is the less tax they will pay...if you have a company making billions in profit and your paying out a fraction of that in tax to obviously what your making in profit..Obviously millions in tax sounds like a lot but it's a relative to what your making in the first place...the Googles of the word will have a strategy for most if not all situations including how to minimise paying tax and will pursue that will real vigor to maximise there profits to the investors and company....not only that but as stated in the video they will be working with HMRC to minimise there tax paid...Obviously the government wont want to scare them 9ff by taxing them into submission.
Well, it is a big fraction admittedly, seeing as their taxes account for 4% of their COGS, interest and operating costs. I am by no means defending them, but there are bigger culprits for tax evasion at work than Alphabet that don't necessarily make more net revenue (for example, Microsoft has a lower net revenue, but a larger profit margin than Alphabet, meaning their effective tax rate must be lower). Companies that make much less money like the programming and digital media company EA pay peanuts in tax, their effective tax rate is a mere 4%, which is several times smaller than Alphabet or Apple.
Activision, one of the biggest gaming companies in the world making billions of PROFIT (not just income) a year actually got a tax REBATE one year.... Costing tax payers money... Hilarious.
It’s because of leverage. They hire thousands in the uk and pay millions into the uk in salaries and tax from salaries. They purchase large buildings and they fuel the economy. Because of that if the country pushes too far they threaten to move and that means net loss for the country.
@@Krytern probably only hilarious if you own the company but i get your point it's outrageous. 😏🙄
@@mattoniy2840 Thanks for your well written and explained reply.😎
Greedy google… the money they make and they avoid paying tax disgraceful
I love how they answer it with "what I'd say". Just goes to show it's always an act.
In good faith, tax laws exist for the privilege to do business in that location and have access to that area's population (from the perspective of the business owner). Taking that perspective, the transaction occurs where the seller is.
This seems so very British.
"If I buy something from an other country, don't you agree that actually, I am buying it here?"
Loaded questions suck.
The whole thing seems to be "Here in Britain we like money. Could we have more of it please and thank you.".
But they'll never tax them properly in case they magically stop selling products in the UK...despite headquartering in Ireland to avoid taxes.
Google had its headquarters there before the UK decided to commit Brexit.
If England tries to incentivize Google to move to England, they are not doing a great job. And England is doing a poor job of taxing Google, not the other way around. Because think for a moment. If Google moved to England, out of the Eurozone, wouldn't that allow Google to evade taxes in the entire Eurozone by your logic?
Stop blaming the UK government's incompetence on everyone else and take some responsibility.
So if I use a proxy to look like I am in a difrent country and buy an item. . . . Where should the tax be payed?
He's too rich to punish for criminal behaviour.
MPs trying to get their heads round the rules they made. Absolute belters.
People with amounts of money that we could not even imagine trying to do everything in their power to not pay a penny in tax, whilst I simultaneously pay pretty huge amounts of tax, and am PAID BY that tax an an NHS employee, is genuinely sickening.
How much money is enough for these people? Once you have 10s of millions or even trillions of pounds, what on earth do you spend it on?
The are people who could end homelessness in the UK overnight if they so choose, and yet instead are just competing with each other to see who can have the biggest Yacht.
Honestly this version of capitalism is just so broken.
If my sale is in Ireland why do they charge us UK vat?