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I read a bunch of leg lengthening surgery forums a while back and it was one of the most doomer corners of the internet I’ve ever seen. I’m a 5’6” man and there were guys on there who were TALLER than me saying with total conviction that their height made their lives unlivable, but somehow being a couple inches taller would fix everything. It was baffling.
Yeah it's really sad, I feel for these guys who fixate on physical attributes (a hallmark of incels) as some weird form of essentialism, ie this is how the world works, so in their eyes all their problems are due to that particular thing. Some are even more absurd than height, like their chin or...narrow shoulders like me!
@@MedlifeCrisis Exactly. And any argument made on those forums that someone’s height was normal and they didn’t need the surgery was dogpiled on so quickly-on one of them it was literally against the rules to say anything like that. My best guess is that they’ve developed an attitude of “I’ve tried everything and these stupid normies just keep telling me to magically become confident,” sort of like how a lot of us feel about the “you’re depressed? Have you tried yoga?” sentiment.
Yeah, I think it's safe to say that the actual physical truth doesn't matter that much. A hell of a lot of people getting cosmetic surgery were better looking than me to begin with, but if I was given the exact same money to spend on anything, I know I wouldn't be spending it on my appearance. This is why I do think proper psychological assessment is desirable - because I'm sure that a hell of a lot of people are convincing themselves that something they feel is being caused by their appearance. When you have guys agonising about their clavicles, I feel like that's definitely what's happening there.
“Of course you [Americans] have integrated the metric system into children’s education, because you’re quiet keen on using 9mm’s in schools”. Honestly, thats the greatest burn I have ever heard in my life against Americans, and I’m American.
I cracked up and had to pause the video too after shedding a tear. Both from the laughing and from the fact it is true... such a dark joke but so accurate.
The obsession with height in American culture is absolutely insane. I was exactly the national average in the US and was considered short by tons of women. I've never had an issue with it in the Nordics despite being shorter than the average. I remember a date with a Danish woman who was a full head taller than me. I asked if that was an issue about halfway into the date and she looked absolutely perplexed and said, "Why would it be?".
It’s because most Americans have at least some Native American genetics, who were much much taller than the original Western European colonizers. As they bred together, taller Western Europeans with native features started being born and seen as more attractive than the pure Western Europeans in America over time.
It’s not just the US. In MANY cultures around the world, taller stature is considered more attractive. Historically, our caveman ancestors would elect the tallest man in the village to be the chief, because they were seen as stronger and thus better suited to protecting the tribe. Women always wanted taller men because taller men were seen as better able to protect them. It’s just human biology. It’s not an American thing. But studies HAVE shown specifically in the United States that the taller of two presidential candidates usually are more likely to get elected. The average US president height is 6’0. But having said that, it is NOT just an American cultural thing.
Hearing the word “waifu” come out of Rohin’s mouth in that falsetto tone was simultaneously the funniest and most atrocious thing I’ve experienced in a while.
"Don't message me if you discriminate against people based on race, sexual orientation or gender identity, or if you're under 6 feet tall." Yeah, figures.
Every new thing I learn about dating apps makes me so glad to be a lesbian, we still just get our dates by meeting (girl)friends of (girl)friends. (Not always in person anymore of course.) Much easier, and you have someone to complain to if something goes wrong..!
It's like in Austin Powers. "If there's two things I can't stand, it's people who discriminated against others for immutable characteristics, and short people".
I was born without a fibula in my left leg. Due to this it was impossible to for my left leg to grow. I needed to get limb lengthening surgery. It was horriblely painful, almost every minute I had some degree of pain. You are always badly sore, and depending on where the surgeon decided to install the fixator I would have to lock my knee overnight. Considering there was a major medical device drilled into my bone this wasn’t easy. On top of my doctor prescribing as many opiates as the law would allow him to. He would also prescribe valium as because of the pain it was incredibly difficult to sleep. I also had to go to extreme painful physical therapy for at least as long as I was lengthening my leg, which could be months depending on the distance that needed to be corrected. When I found out that some people get this VERY invasive surgery just to be taller it send a shiver up my spine. I’m about 5’6” and my height is the least of my issues.
@@whychoooseausername4763 I’m doing well (or at least better) now. My last surgery was (I think) in 2018. Unless I start to develop spinal alignment issues that should me my last surgery.
Because physical pain is just temporary. The emotional pain of being ridiculed by others, and rejected by potential dates is lifelong, and sometimes hurts worse than any physical pain.
@@idc1121 havent you realised yet? Generaly speaking people that identify with terms like alpha or seek a chad aesthetic are usually the ones obsessed with their bodies, only its in a way perceived as societally acceptable. But anyway, being cognisant of other peoples perspectives doesn't mean you need to grow up. You saying grow up just marks you as a growing number of people who lack empathy and critical reasoning skills...
I think he was talking about the push in some states to get teachers and other school staff to carry guns. I don't think he was referring directly to the school shootings.
The thing is that even if I went through limb lengthening (I am 5’6) to let’s say 5’10, I would still be called short. Or maybe ugly, or perhaps poor. There’s always something people won’t like about me. I can’t change that. I always like to take the stoic approach and try to understand that in the end it doesn’t matter. Life is so short that it makes no sense to chase the unattainable standards of society. F**k what people think .
Awwww, yes. The great teachings of Marcus Aurelius and Ryan Holliday has made my life so much better. I respect what these short kings go through, but I also know that if they became true stoics that their problems would seemingly cease to exist. It’s inherent within the doctrine of stoicism.
A good thing to remember too is that the prominent standards of society makes you forget that there's such a range in people's preferences. Im a (barely) 5'3 woman and have always really liked short guys. Even my same height (or hell, even shorter than me). There seems to be just one or two ways to be "properly masculine" and therefor successful projected in the social discourse, but I think there's many different kinds of masculinity and ways of being masculine, and I am attracted to many of them. Its definitely difficult to find them, but there will always be some people out there who would genuinely appreciate you for the way you are
Had a housemate in uni who was a 6'3" woman who always complained about how difficult it was to find guys who were taller than her to date. Ended up marrying a guy 5'5" tall and they're incredibly happy together.
My partner and I are the same height, he said he wouldn't have dated me if I were taller. It's astounding to me that someone let something so shallow determine who they spend their life with. I'd still marry him if he was a brain in a vat
I remember a few years back i was on a date with a girl. She was telling me that she was surprised how much she liked me because she used to never date short guy. She said she always said, what do you call a guy under 5'10"? A friend. I was like wow, thanks and ended up ghosting her ass
DAAAMN, that is fucked up to say to someone! Even if I was sleeping with her, if a woman said that shit to me, it probably would never leave my brain! Good job ditching that lunatic.
Omg- laughed imagining her saying the quote, not because that shitty excuse for a joke is funny, but because she thought that would go over well with you. Holy shit lol
I'm a guy, and I had a friend who was a 5'4" man and to say his hight dominated his life would be an understatement. He became one of the most miserable people I've ever met. He drove all of his friends away becuase of it. To this day, if I ever catch someone making fun of short men I stop them and explain this story. I hate comments about "society today" but todays culture is genuinely so hostile twords short guys. Makes me sad ...
Key being _he_ drove all his friends away, I know the shortest boy in my class was very vindictive and picked on me more than anyone else picked on me (I was pretty tall).
Totally. Especially if you live in the west 5 10' is average and lots of things are made with that in mind. I was 5 7 before surgery and got about 4 inches afterwards. Its not that I cared about my height, its the people around me who would notice. I did it become invisble and not be noticed everywhere I go. Now I do. People be saying height doesn't matter and making height a requirement in almost everything, not directly but it literally dominates your life if you're short. :D
Totally. Especially if you live in the west 5 10' is average and lots of things are made with that in mind. I was 5 7 before surgery and got about 4 inches afterwards. Its not that I cared about my height, its the people around me who would notice. I did it become invisble and not be noticed everywhere I go. Now I do. People be saying height doesn't matter and making height a requirement in almost everything, not directly but it literally dominates your life if you're short. :D
Tbh, my gf had to convince her girl friends that dating a short guy was ok after she shared she was starting to date me. They needed some convincing. For me, I follow the advice of "not giving a f*** about what people think". It has served me well.
This is further evidence of my theory that women don’t actually care that much about height but attempt to date tall guys anyway simply to impress other women. It’s kind of like men competing over who can get the girlfriend with the biggest bazongas
Do you know why? Honest question, I have hard time to understand this thinking. Especially if there's a huge height discrepancy certain things tend to get... shall I say, mechanically interesting.
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My son has undergone this twice due to a massive disparity in his leg lengths, which obviously caused a lot of issues for him. I can't imagine going through what he did simply because you want to be a few inches taller!. I used to cry (when he wasn't around) as I felt so sorry for him having to go through all the discomfort and pain. This world gets sicker by the minute and it is unlikely to recover whilst people are obsessed by social media and all the trash that brings with it.
Easy to judge when you're not on the recieving end of heightism. I'm a short guy and I don't plan to have this surgery but I 100% understand others who feel they need it because I live the hell that is being short in a sick culture like ours.
@@garak55 I judged from the perspective of being someone who saw just how hard and brutal this operation is. My son didn't gain the 'benefit' of being taller however as it was just to get his short leg closer to his other, he is 5'8. On your other point, I totally agree that we do live in a sick culture. It makes me so mad when I hear these girls with their lists of must haves for men, being tall being one of those criteria. There hopefully are still some decent females out there who look beyond the superficial, I wish you well.
@somad6997it can also be a generational thing, some of the current right wing implications/associations ppl have among younger ppl is actually part of that “return to tradition” stuff
capitalism is supposed to endlessly grow so this is what happens when there's no more room in nature and such to endlessly expand into. what if we capitalize on peoples relationships instead.
Its sad that in our culture(perhaps more accurately species) everyone is expected to be in a realationship. I think many people would be better of if they could be ok with being single. Treating relationships as a possibility not a requirement.
I’m a woman and was at one point so set on this procedure I thought it was life or death. It occupied my mind 24/7 and my leg length still does. I think if I could have afforded it, I would have done it without blinking. It’s crazy how something so inconsequential like leg length can destroy you. [I actually have a related procedure scheduled now and I feel so weightless. Sometimes changing your body is much easier than changing your mind]
looked into this about 15 years ago while writing a paper about cosmetics in Asia, China mainly. Leg lengthening surgery came up as something people would do in order to be able to get a good job where being taller would allow you to use imposing height to impress and intimidate others (lawyer) or there would be height requirements (flight attendant). Really interesting... Love how it is used in Gattaca.
Same but in Europe. I did look into it at one stage when I heard about it, but I thought it was just growth injections of some kind that worked, when I heard it was an expensive invasive surgery? Fuck that man, it's no where near enough of a problem. There's 100% a bias to shorter guys in society that many won't notice unless they're short themselves but you can literally just ignore all of it and the parts you can't ignore are usually vain shit that doesn't even matter.
That's because you weren't young enough by the time your area modernized enough to the point where being short is now an actual detriment for quality of life.
@@WildBandit300 I'm 21, 5'6", it's not a determinant for your quality of life. My friend, 5'7" is with another girl every month. I hang out with my 6'2 aussie friend and still get noticed, I still meet women and although I don't sleep around so can't back that side of things I am in a relationship with a girl that's my height without issue. There's nothing stopping you from succeeding other than vain people on the internet trying to make you feel like shit, I can guarantee you it's your personality that's causing you problems not your height.
At least you fit properly in compact cars and buses. Tall people also have to dodge branches. There are so many pros to being short. You're just used to them.
Good stuff. Women have been able to speak up more recently about how we’re feeling on body pressure. I think it’s important for men to as well. I like how you carefully navigated ‘this doesn’t feel right for me’ but also ‘this may be very helpful for others’. Self body perception and body modification are a tough topic because there’s so many ‘right’ answers bespoke to the person seeking them. Thoughtfully navigated, and amusingly communicated.
Even as a guy I see that many men can't speak up about insecurities without blaming women for them which is a shame. Especially when it comes to the height thing.
@Balloonbot the real issue is that it's completely taboo to mention that women's standards may be creating these pressures. And they are. There are plenty of examples of this, even in this video. It's worth discussing, but instead we just blame men's issues on men themselves, telling them to "fix themselves." It's clearly not any more constructive than if someone were to exclusively blame women. The origin of the problem needs to be addressed, even if it is ugly and may critique women. Men have been critiqued for things like these for decades, right? Surely women can handle the same process.
@@Chicodon008 While women did set the standard in that the standard for what is attractive for a man _always_ has to be confirmed by women to be real... I rather doubt it was really the idea of women as a group. Probably some smaller, specific group. (I haven't done the research to figure out who, though.)
@@_Lumiere_ You make a good point with "men have been critiqued for things like this", so I want to confirm that what I just said applies also to men's standards for women. There seem to be a few small groups of powerful men setting various standards for what men expect in a woman. (However, in the case of men's standards for women, there seem to be multiple competing standards. And actually, there are multiple competing standards for what women expect from men as well, when you think about it.)
As someone who is barely above the threshold to qualify as having dwarfism, it honestly does kind of suck in many ways (this summer I got the 10 and under menu when out with my family). But tbh, so much of my life has been shaped by being short that the idea of me gaining a few inches feels... uncomfortable? It's weird, but imagining myself as being a normal height seems as foreign to me as imaging myself as being a different race. I don't know if this perspective adds anything, but I thought I'd share!
well yea im 5'1 and ive literally never cared if anything ive always been the "king"/funny guy growing up through school, just for being short (?) but after leaving school its different, u start seeing how other ppl judge u on ur height even tho i did never care, ive definitely focused on its effect since. and i dont think its possible for ppl to "not care what other people think". im largely in the same camp of, i do things without thinking about ppl being judgemental, but when u are clearly getting ostrasized and u got no one to back you, you start questioning things. we are social creatures at the end of the day, of course having a healthy social life is paramount to a healthy life.
As a guy thats 5'9" standing around people taller than me makes me look short and standing around people shorter makes me look taller. Im not short but peoples perceptions are easily swayed especially when at family gatherings where the men taller than average. I wouldnt pay for those extra inches but i can see how they would be appealing to those in my position or slightly shorter where the height difference wouldnt mess with proportions.
Absolute banger of a track. Made my heart fibrilate with poetic bliss. It'd be a waste not to pursue a rap career, along the whole youtube/doctor business. I'm sure you'll handle it great.
I am 5"4 and my height has never bothered me. What was bothering is being mocked and insulted by my classmates in primary and middle school. Problem was not my height; it was the children around me. It is sad that children can be very ruthless towards each other. Eventually they grow up and learn to behave civil but bullied children carry the scars throughout their adult life. Teach your children not to bully other children based on their appearances. Now I am 30 and seeing some women posting insulting comments about short guys on social media. I don't understand the point, the motive behind using vulgar language towards short men. Everybody can have preferences in dating, but these preferences are meant to be communicated in civil manner, and privately.
I'm exactly 6'0. I also spent five years working in a basement kitchen with pipes at 5'6". I then dated one girl on tinder who accused me of lying about my height because I wasn't hitting my head on the vents in her basement apartment. Sometimes you just can't win.
As a tattoo artist, people tend to suck at actually understanding sizes, specially length, still seems bad to me that she felt that way, but I don't know anything.
I was 5'6 but after hip surgery I am now 5'5. Looking forward to being even shorter after my knee surgeries! I'll be able to start buying childrens trousers again for that sweet 0% VAT. #benjaminbutton #novatlife
As a kid, I used to have some issues regarding my height and not growing taller than my dad, but I've largely accepted my genetic lot and have chosen to focus on other charm points when I do actively care about my appearance. Also, the full moustache I had by age 12 was a point of pride for me, especially since all the white boys couldn't even get close.
You seem like the kind of guy who could pull off a tattoo of a heart with a name in it; your own name. Bond points for the heart-cardiology connection.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 oh yes, with the ECG on it too. Instead of the usual PQRST label he should label the ECG with ROHIN, that would be hella dope man! 🎉
Here's an interesting bit about the Turkish hair transplant market. In Turkey, doctors take a centralized exam to go on to specialize. Since there are only so many spots for each specialty, the minimum score needed to enter each specialty depends on supply and demand. Traditionally, the highest points were for prestigious and life-critical fields like cardiology and neurosurgery. Recently though, the situation flipped on its head - dermatology is now the most competitive specialty for newly minted Turkish doctors. Our best and brightest doctors go into dermatology while the doctors who barely scraped by are becoming neurosurgeons. I think this is due to two trends that have been going on for years. The first being the absurd amount of money dermatologists can rake in from international customers. The second one isn't as well-known, and it's the fact that Turkish people treat doctors like absolute garbage. Especially if you're in an overcrowded and underfunded public hospital, getting beaten or killed by angry visitors is not out of the question. Even the most idealistic and starry-eyed doctor would become jaded and amoral after spending a few years in their mandatory public hospital residency. The healthcare system is falling apart because of this, and ultimately Turkish society has only itself to blame.
How interesting. Doctors are often treated with a reverence they do not always deserve by some groups or societies, and it's not hard to see how that might be the case. But the behaviour you refer to in Turkish hospitals seems to indicate a high level of mistrust and lack of respect among the general population, and I wonder if you have any information or ideas about why that might be the case?
about lesser known fields, i'm from ph 🇵🇭 and we have a lot of civil engineers. there's so many of them and so few construction projects their starting salaries are at $300 a month. in contrast our semiconductor industry earns about $80 billion a year. we sell more of it than any european nation. more than any western country in fact ex the usa. yet I do not know a single electronics engineer in person.
3:00 To those interested, this film is called Gattaca. It is a film about eugenics and the film focuses on a pair of brothers, one genetically engineered and one naturally conceived. The sibling who gets the leg lengthening is Vincent, the naturally conceived one. Jerome, the one on the wheelchair, is the brother who was genetically engineered to be an athlete but suffered an accident (none of this is a spoiler; it is all explained upfront). Mind you, these brothers love each other a lot, but they also fight a lot due to miscommunications and societal issues, and both have internal struggles. I deeply recommend watching it at least once.
Not quite. Jerome isn't his brother - but like you said, he's a genetically engineered athlete who suffered a career-ending injury. The naturally conceived hero, Vincent, pays him to lend him his identity via fake fingerprints etc. so he can be an astronaut, since in that society only the most eugenic people qualify for space travel. Vincent does have a genetically engineered "superior" brother, but it's a different character.
I think in that movie it wasn't actually genetic engineering but a very high level of genetic _screening_ . Technology was at a level where the average person could have dozens of in vitro fertilizations, test the DNA in each of those and then implant and carry to term the one which happened to get the most beneficial combination of chromosomes.
I've been following you on UA-cam since you only had a couple of thousand subscribers. Now you have 540 000 and you are STILL in my opinion, one of the most underrated UA-camrs. You deserve many more! Truly talented at mixing entertainment with medicine.
This is nothing new, and no different from all the other ways society deems certain characteristics beautiful. It’s not bullying that society has certain beauty standards, that’s been the case for as long as there’s been humans. The only real difference is the invasive nature of the operation
@@Chicodon008Beauty standards have never been this bad? Is that a joke. Look at Asia, where if you're darker than a paper bag, you're considered ugly. This has been the case for centuries. Skin bleaching is a billion dollar industry. But now it's bad? Sure.
@@Chicodon008 I'm willing to bet they could date, but don't want fatties or chicks with children. Everyone has their prejudices, even those who are more often on the relieving end.
I underwent three leg lengthening surgeries between the ages of 9 and 12 due to a shortened right leg. The idea that anyone would subject themselves to this kind of procedure voluntarily and for purely cosmetic reasons is completely insane to me. This isn't a simple surgery, it's painful and traumatising, or at least it was for me.
This video kinda struck a cord with me. I am saving up for abdominoplastic surgery at the moment. I've lost 25kg a few years ago and have lots of excessive skin around my tummy. It's partly medically necessary: My belly-button is now very deep so I get frequent skin irritations and sometimes infections. The skin is also annoying when I jump or run. But to be completely honest, a big part of the reason is that I finally want to look like my peers who have never been overweight. Nothing superhuman, not an insanely flat tummy - Just a normal 23-year-old woman who doesn't look like she has had two pregnancies. In some way, I think this is what I deserve after years of growing up overweight and being mistreated by others because of my appearance. I feel like I might be able to move on, once I have the surgery - Though I'll probably need to work on other aspects as well to finally feel better. Anyway, thank you for speaking so empathetically about this issue.
Do what is best for you! Congrats on the weight loss, and you absolutely deserve it. Personally I also think your situation is very different from people who look nothing out of the ordinary but think a cosmetic change will significantly improve their quality of life on all aspects. While they're entitled to make their own medical decisions, and I have nothing against that, they will have a shit time once they realise their life is actually the same.
the last sentence reminds me of something a lot of men and women in the fitness industry suffer from - body dysmorphia. People look at their bodies, see millions of flaws, work on them, fix one or couple things, but find new flaws - in an endlessly repeating cycle.
I really appreciate your approach to this video as it has been really introspective. I got a mammoplasty reduction 11 years ago because of the damage my breasts were causing to my ribs and back but I still suffered from sensitivity issues to this very day. I will admit I honestly see that surgery as an improvement to my mental well-being though more than my physical well-being despite it being a medical necessity.
As a 23-year-old 5' 7" "short king" who is very much failing spectacularly in the dating game, I've never considered having this surgery. I'd rather wait a few years and get into a relationship with an AI than get into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, months of excruciating pain, and permanently damaged legs, just for a chance of getting into a vain relationship with someone that only gave a shit about me because of my height. Don't get me wrong, I find both of these relationships equally meaningless, but at least I can larp as Ryan Gosling in the first one lol.
Just based purely on physical characteristics, it depends on what you're looking for. I doubt many dudes below 6 feet are hooking up much but a lot of dudes 5'3 and upwards are definitely getting into happy, healthy relationships. Probably would help if you don't have social anxiety.
My other half is a couple of inches taller than you and I'm average wimmin height. It's never bothered me, or him, I'm as tall as him at least in heels. There's more to life than this. I'm not saying it's something else wrong with you. I'm saying it's maybe not you. Not directly. I think it's probably hard to meet people and the older you get the harder it is... If you want to find someone I hope you do. But don't assume it won't. I will say I've met loads of amazing ppl lately by joining a group I started off online only with and then ended up travelling to go to meets for it a few times, and it's blown my mind how many people are still around that could be potential options if I was looking. I'm nearly 40. Think about what you enjoy and go from there.
My husband is 5'6". And the most frustrating part about it is how other men treat him. Men will talk down to him and even threaten him, often using the word little during said verbal altercations. (This actually happens a fair bit during work, as he is unwilling to break rules like his previous manager did and got fired for.) And other men also treat him like he's some 20 something year old immature kid, just starting out on the job front, when he is 36 years old, married and with 3 kids. (Wsy too many people treat him like he's either not an adult, or just barely an adult.) He gets passed over for leadership roles. And he is not taken seriously about life issues. The wild thing is that he is physically a fair bit stronger than a lot of guys. Being short doesn't mean weak. And his strength is one reason that he is asked to help friends move or lift things on the regular. And he is a highly intelligent person as well. He is generally very likable. And he really never had trouble with the ladies, even though shorter men are often overlooked. He both has a great personality and is generally quite good looking. I'm not tall either at very, almost 5'4". Most of my friends have at least an inch on me. But as a woman, I don't deal with the same issues for being on the shorter end of the spectrum. Although, as I have had a good solid skin care routine for forever, I haven't aged as fast as a lot of women my age. And that can really be a mixed bag. Some people are more polite to those who look younger. But women who are my age will treat me like a kid. And that gets irritating.
As a very short woman (5ft) i definitely feel like there are significant drawbacks to my height. I feel like it's hard to be taken seriously (which is especially an issue professionally). It's a real struggle to find clothes that fit. I miss out on some educational activities because I can't see over my peers' backs. Safety equipment is statistically less effective/safe for me. I need assistance for basic tasks like reaching groceries on high shelves. I think it's just that deviating from the "average" in any way comes with drawbacks. As a very short person though, I don't understand this idea that people over 5'5 are short (but I'm looking at everyone from a different perspective - my definition of "tall" has a much lower bar than average.)
I shouldn't be surprised or shocked that this phenomenon exists.......shouldn't... I knew about Osteotomy procedures as I almost had one done a few years ago due to lack of cartilage in my knee - so, out of necessity. But this leg-lengthening thing is a "cosmetic mental disorder" and the whole mental part of this phenomenon is something that needs to be taken much more seriously! Love your videos!
It brings a lot of awful childhood (and recent) memories hearing all your personal stories about people making fun of your height. It’s painful. Slowly over the years growing up, I managed to just tune out all the hurtful remarks about my height. But thank you for the words of encouragement by the end of your video. Thank you so much. Sincerely, 160cm guy
this is so weird, i was *just* having this conversation with my husband yesterday! i think the way short men are treated is preposterous. i’ve seen dating shows where the woman says her deal breaker is a man under 6ft (so, much taller than average) but gets angry when the dude says he prefers women who are thin and/or fit. don’t get me wrong, i think the latter is still uncool, but the lack of self-awareness to make your number one requirement in a romantic partner a physical trait but find it reprehensible for the other person to do the same is WILD. also, i at least understand the latter a bit more, because perhaps being very active and living healthy is a big part of your life and you want someone with that in common. while the former is just straight up shallow. i say this as an overweight person myself, and i’m really not trying to be a pick me; far more often i find guys on dating apps and such much more vile. but this particular issue really bothers me.
It's got to be an anatomically correct heart with crossed scalpels behind it and a scroll saying "Mum". A reference to doctor patient confidentiality. :) Loved the video by the way. Very thoughtful. Also love Contrapoints.
I had a distant relative in Russia undergo the Ilizarov procedure in the nineties, she was a woman btw, and it was every bit as medieval as the thing makes it look. A ton of money, a year of torturous pain and lifelong chronic pain in her legs for a 5 cm difference, I had no idea it made its way to the west before I read the same article that you mentioned in the beginning. But in your ethical considerations you basically repeated what I saw many trans people argue: if you advocate for ultimate patient agency and bodily autonomy, it should also include 'gender affirming surgeries for cis people' and all kinds of other surgeries that you'd never agree to for yourself. People who oppose gender affirming surgeries almost always consider them immoral and then find ways to dress it up in medical or political language, so doing the same thing to breast implant surgery or hair transplants would be hypocritical to say the least.
I still don't get how gender affirming surgeries have become a thing. Just like the people trying to fix their height I believe they are aiming at the wrong thing...
@@everwhatever It is his buisness if he is a taxpayer, and this surgeries are done using his tax money because they "save lives". Or there may be a lot of other reasons why it is his buisness.
@@Straga_Severagender affirming surgeries are not paid by taxes. even in countries with universal med care. source: had to pay the full price for mine
Yeah tho it's worth mentioning that gender affirming surgeries are not without controversy within leftist / progressive circles As an example I can note that certain trans people regret going through their surgeries because they felt pressured by the very transphobic society we live in. How can you talk about informed consent in a world where you can be attacked for not passing? A question appears: do I really want to have bottom surgery or maybe I just want to be accepted? Not to mention that trans people are subjected to the same unreachable beaty standards as cis people which only brings another layer of mess As such no, I don't believe it's that simple. The same people who attack trans women for being "too masculine" will also attack masc presenting cis women. The same people who patronize trans men for being "too feminine" will look down on short cis men It's all a part of the same superficiality no amount of surgeries will ever fully fix. In the meantime there're a lot of people who will cash in on your insecurities
I actually had this surgery twice due to a damanged growth plate meaning there was a huge length difference between my legs. I spent nearly two years disabled and it was incredibly painful, I could never imagine choosing to go through it. I also wish they could've made my other leg shorter instead because I'm a really tall girl now and I'd prefer to be shorter. It seems like that should be easier than making it longer but I'm sure there's good medical reasons why that doesn't work. That said, I do feel that it should be allowed with really really clear consent forms and information. Edit: I've now watched the full video and I think you raised some very interesting points about the distinction between gender affirming care for trans people's dysphoria and similar care for cis people. I think I have some good insight with this matter as a trans woman who's struggled with other body image issues. I can actually seperate in my mind my specfic gender dyphoria and my feelings around traditional beauty standards. The feeling and desire to change my primary sex characteristics feels unbreakable, that it isn't a want but a requirement for my survivial and something that will constantly stab at me like a needle in my shoe. Not only that it feels as though it comes from inside, that it is a need deep to my core. Compared that to the temptations of other changes, such as wanting to be dangerously thin or the want to fit society's view of how I should be. Those wants feel like external pressures, still things I'd have if I could without consequence, but they do feel different and like they can be fought against. There is actually some internal distrinction between the need to be a woman, and the desire to be beautiful. They are quite different in my eye and I think that's the key difference as to why some procedures should be optional and paid by the patient, and others should be treated as medical necessities and funded like other care. Above all this however I do believe in a person ultimate choice to do with their body as they wish, so long as doctors are honest about risks and harms, anyone should be able to do as they please. It certainly shouldn't take the absurd amount of gate keeping currently present (at least in the UK). I mean a 5-20 year wait, 2 doctors, 2 psychs, plus like 5 evaluations is insane to be honest.
You can't shorten nerves with current medical knowledge. If you shorten a bone considerably you would need to shorten all other structures, too to make the leg still work. The other way round: most structures will stretch and adjust to greater length. That's what the slow stretching is for.
I got leg lengthening surgery once using a Fitbone surgery, because of a damaged growth plate. At the time it was deemed an experimental surgery in Finland. I had the choice of getting this surgery or the older outside of leg metal bracket. I'm glad I got the fitbone surgery, because there was very little pain with it. I basically only had pain for a week or two when it was installed and removed. When the lengthening was in progress I could mostly just live normally. I was told to not put weight on the leg and I walked using crutches. I did try walking slowly without crutches once. Even then there was no pain and it was quite a long walk. Leg lengthening surgery has improved a lot in the past 20 years.
@@susanne5803 Fair enough, I'm not a doctor but I figured it would be something like that. I was a kid at the time so I never got much of an explaination of how it all worked. One benefit of this explosive popularity is getting to see it explained in videos I guess.
@@sophieclements908 I am old and helped as a school kid as a "nurse assistant". Among my duties was playing with little kids who got one leg stretched surgically because of extreme length differences or anatomic differences. It was very boring for them. I read your edit. It's very difficult to figure out the distinction between real drives and social expectations - especially when they are sex or gender related. I'm a cis woman. And my generation fought for wearing jeans and working without make up, perfume and jewelry. But it got so far as to be a social pressure, too. For me a woman with trousers, no make up, no perfume and no jewelry still emotionally feels "free". Which is the bias of the social group and age group I belonged to. Others had and have other biases. With age things calm down for many folks. Most of us become more forgiving as regards the traits and quirks of others and ourselves. All the very best to you!
Yes! A lot of these cosmetic surgeries I see as gender-affirming, regardless of if someone is cisgender or not. It is so much harder nowadays since online dating has made it so much easier for someone to decide if they want to pursue a relationship with only an impersonal glance at a profile.
Oh it was formally diagnosed some years ago :) I've talked about it a little in a Q&A video where I found my old school report which was...pretty much textbook ADHD. It was a rough time, I drove my mum crazy and got in a lot of trouble at school.
Hilariously it's almost the exact same list I could write about my boyfriend (except we don't have a house or kids, but it would probably end the same)
Although obviously, getting your self worth from whether women find you attractive is incredibly unhealthy and absolutely no way to live, I want to provide a bit of affirmation for the short kings out there. There absolutely are women who actively prefer shorter men, and find them more attractive than tall men. I know because I’m one of those women! I’ve always preferred men who were short and skinny, I don’t really know why, but I just love a guy who’s compact, lmao. The recent dungeons and dragons movie made me feel very seen. Also, I suspect that at least one of the writers for parks and recreation feels the same way because female characters would mention it as a positive thing every now and then. I used to crush so hard on Tom Haverford. Unfortunately I remember these examples so well because it’s not something that’s talked about in our culture very often, it’s probably similar to how many men actually prefer women with smaller breasts, but most don’t really admit to it because it’s not the “norm”. I remember one time I mentioned to my grandma that I have a huge crush on the werewolf guy from Buffy and she just stared at me like I was insane. He’s 5’4” which means he’s a little shorter than me, and I find that super attractive but if I mention that people act like that’s sooo weird, as if there aren’t way stranger things that it’s acceptable for women to be into. I think some women tend to choose men based on how they’ll affect their social status more than whether they’re actually attracted to them. A lot of girls want to have the most “impressive” looking boyfriend possible so they can flex on their female friends. Height is an easy way to measure how much a person literally stands out from others, and it has the bonus trait of being extremely difficult to change (as this video demonstrates), which makes it all the more exclusive. Basically, the girls who are obsessed with super tall men are often the same girls who prefer flashiness over quality. They’d rather have a super impressive guy than a guy they actually like or get along well with. It’s often not even about attraction at all, it’s just about shallow social appearances. Of course, if it’s society itself that’s viewing you as “less impressive”, I guess that’s still something that could make a guy want to change his height, so maybe what I’m saying isn’t really helpful to everyone. But I just wanted to say that if you’re worried specifically about not being attractive enough to women, most women don’t care about height nearly as much as they might pretend to. And some women, like me, find shortness in men extremely attractive, it’s just not a common thing for women to tell others about.
The issue is one of ratio, there are not nearly enough girls willing to overlook height for every short dude out there. And even if a girl doesn't mind dating a short guy, her friends will most likely pressure her into finding someone taller.
@@andreipopa2128 I think there are enough girls for short guys. Just that they are not at the same place at the right time. Maybe make a dating app for shorter people and for people who don't have height requirements for their partners. There are a lot of short women too.
Absolutely agree. I‘m a 5'2/158cm short woman, being with a 6' guy admittedly makes me feel quite uncomfortable, thus I‘m can‘t find myself being attracted to them. Anyone more than around 20cm taller than me doesn’t feel right & is just not for me. Someone just slightly taller than me however would be really attractive in my eyes. And there are many short women, even shorter than me. I dont understand the need for huge height differences in couples at all
Love the music video. But I really liked that this wasn't just a one-sided commentary.judgement, but opening up the discussion with additional questions.
DUDE , there are not enough like buttons for this masterpiece. Medicinal info plus your sassy jokes made mi night watching this. Greetings for Chile my dude, thanks for staying true
Hey Rohin, I’m 5’1”, which is… rough. I believe that puts me in the 1st percentile among men. It is usually the first thing people comment on when they see me, but I didn’t realize the degree of disrespect in engendered until the pandemic, when the sudden switch to Zoom meant people who had never met me took my points far more seriously. I appreciate the care that went into this video, and the delicacy required to walk the line between paternalistically telling people how to live their own lives and warning them about what is, ultimately, still a very dangerous procedure. One comment I’d like to add, particularly since you said you moght address “commodification” again with respect to plastic surgery, is that commentators often neglect one of the benefits of turning luxuries, privileges, or impossibilities into commodities: egalitarianism. Where once sugar, spices, and a full wardrobe were available only to the wealthy, they are now widely available even to citizens of poor countries (though their poverty, it should be noted, is often a result of the slavery and imperialism that allowed for commodification of these goods in the first place). Meat, over-the-counter medicine, and personal vehicles are also goods which were previously luxuries but are now widely available, albeit in the first world. Commodification doesn’t exactly erase inequality-you still have to pay for things (hence why countries like the UK opt to socialize medicine), but it does lower the barriers. I get frustrated when I see people, often quite privileged, complain about commodification. It often comes across as a worry that somebody might be able to buy into what they got, unearned, for free. I won’t get leg-lengthening surgery. I love running and skiing too much to risk losing the ability to do either. But I also don’t begrudge anyone who spends their money trying to look a little closer to what so many Hollywood stars were born looking like-any more than I’d begrudge them for not eating the gruel of their peasant ancestors.
I don't think it works that way, the people having these surgeries are rich people, this one specifically is popular among dudes in silicon valley, thinga getting cheaper to produce often makes them more widely available but that is not an effect of commodification, specially because commodification can come with exclusivity and elitism, also the first world comprises more or less 1.2 billion people, so the huge majority of people, about 85% still can get most of those things.
Thoroughly enjoyed that Rohin, great video. You could post once a year with bangers like this and be worth the wait. Also, on the topic of the video and to provide anecdotal evidence regarding the relation between height & dating life success: I'm 190cm tall, atheltic (runner, not muscular), probably average looking overall, 32 years old with a good job, living in Paris and have been single for more than a decade. As always, the key is the awful personality and self confidence! Or is it the lack of beard? See, you're not the only one who can subject others to an impromptue therapy session. Looking forward to the next!
I was an early bloomer and tallest girl for about 2 years. The kids I didnt get along with were more vicious and I felt very relieved when I stopped growing at 165 cm. It was great, I longer stood out which only got me negative attention. I can imagine many boys felt the same about being the shortest or lastest bloomer.
I was the shortest kid in class, even shorter than the girls for all of primary school. Year 10 of school did me a solid and boosted me up to a height I'm happy with.
I can give you my perspective as a guy that was the exact opposite. Mine wasn't two years, but rather, most of my childhood. I am an identical twin and my brother and I got the short end of the stick genetically...very literally. We were so tiny, skinny, and short and also had overly youthful appearances. People always thought we were many years younger than we actually were and we were always the shortest in our grade, shorter than all the boys and girls, save one or two people. When we started highschool at 14, we were under 5 feet tall, or around 149cm. I can tell you that we got made fun of for our height a lot. But that first year of high school is when we hit our growth spurt and both grew like 6-7 inches, and I'm now around 5'9". It's been really weird spending half my life as the shortest kid in every class and now the other half being close to the height of an average American man lol. I'm still slightly below the average height, but I couldn't care less. It's no longer something that affects my life, and I enjoy making jokes about my own height.
@@R0Tladding to that. I was the shortest, smallest, skinniest boy all throughout elementary and middle school. I caught up with most girls beginning high school but never caught up with the other boys. I finally finished at 5’6” (169cm) in senior year of college (age 22!!!). At 175lbs of lean muscle i am taller and bigger than most women, so the height doesn’t bother me much but any mention of it still stings. I married the tall girl in middle school, she barely even remembers being 18” taller and weighting twice as myself in 6th grade. But I do…
I was the shortest by far. I was 147 cm at 14 years old, tied in height with one girl. I hit puberty at 15, growing rapidly to 166 cm when I was 16, tied in height with two other short guys. I've been growing 1.5 cm a year ever since. (I'm 20 years old, 172 cm) I was treated poorly and so I showed a lot of aggression in the school years, this helped to a certain extend.
I tend to forget that I’m ~ 5’ 7” and have a balding spot on my head. I’m reminded of it sometimes if people point it out or if I happen to be around tall people with great hair. I weigh ~ 200 lbs and I’m not that fat. I played football against large players. I think my lower center of gravity and deceptive power helped. I have wished I was a little taller but I’m just glad to be in relatively good shape and able to enjoy life. I wouldn’t risk the lengthening procedure or take the time to do it. Good luck to all who do.
as a short guy living in one of the tallest countries in the world, It never really bothered me, Ive always wondered why it was seemingly ok to make fun of someone's height, but it wasn't ok to do it with stuff that were clearly changeable (weight, attitude and many others), but It never personally bothered me, Ive been insecure about many other things but not my height, so I can sympathize with someone and I'd hate to be in my 20s now with how prevalent social media is and how easy it is for the voices of a few people make it seem like the whole world thinks the same.
Beard fetish - if it were a choice, I am taking it. Laughed so hard hearing that. I hope you never tire doing what you do and that you continue to get opportunities doing it.
In the 1990s I watched an investigative news story about non-plastic surgeon MDs performing liposuction after learning at medical conferences. I was kind of shocked that it's not malpractice to perform medicine outside of your specialty if you have been professionally trained. They were talking about dentists and dermatologists and all sorts of MDs were offering liposuction because it was considered a simple procedure to perform and easy to learn. The big point of the story was ASK if your plastic surgeon actually did their residency in cosmetic surgery, especially if you found them through advertisements.
rohin out here defying the narrow, bigoted stereotype that doctors can't rap......really holding it down at the frontiers for us💪🏽. in case the cardiology side hustle fails for u, the world of rap is open to lil medlife
If you want to be macabre, when I was working at Walter Reed, the double, above knee amputees would sometimes discuss what height they wanted to be with their prosthetics. Really hope this leg lengthening doesn’t turn into willingly amputating legs in exchange for adjustable ones.
Distraction Ostiogensis is what I’m embarking on for my jaw. I can’t imagine people wanting to do that for height. I’m short at 152cm I would love to be taller but not that way. We need to be better at being more accepting foe who we are. Having a facial differences is also an unsaid discrimination against society kind of sucks.
I completely agree, it's horrible that people are voluntarily doing this and even paying for it, all because they don't feel accepted. Everyone is unique and to act as if inherent physical traits play any role in how someone should be treated is deeply saddening. That being said, all that's needed to fix it is a little compassion and understanding, and I'm optimistic for the future. I hope everything goes well with your surgery!
I think even in a world where everyone was accepting, some ppl would still have strong preferences about wanting their body to be different and it’s good if that becomes more of an option that’s more accessible. If being a few inches taller really helps someone have more of the body they want I think we should generally celebrate that being something ppl can do now instead of assuming there has to be something wrong with someone for wanting it or that there’s something inherently better about accepting one’s body as is over trying to change it.
I'm 5'6 and also have no trouble with my height, I think it's because I focus on the things I can control like fitness, intelligence and career progression. Plus, I surround myself with genuine people not shallow people. Making jokes of my own height is a don move and shutting down untastful height jokes with a sarcastic clap and praise of it's originality. Understandable to be sad about height in lots of contexts though. Remember you are the sum of all your parts so make it that height is brought up by your characteristics' overall average.
I’ve always found this subject interesting, my dad was about 5’8” and my mom is 6’ and I perfectly split the difference. So I’m the tallest on my dads side but the shortest on my moms and really didn’t give much thought towards my height, I’ve dated woman both shorter and taller than myself and found that it’s often shorter woman that care more about height (in my personal experience) and it does feel bad when people use your height against you but I think it’s important to take that as a mark against their character rather than say anything about you. You can’t control what people are attracted to and if someone treats you poorly because of your height they aren’t someone who was worth your time to begin with.
Probably because being short as a women is also seen as bad, all of the models and most beautiful women out there tend to be on the taller side, so I imagine they are trying to ensure their children can be taller. At least, that's what I imagine, I'm 160 cm ( I think that's 5"2') but I never cared about height, I actually like people closer in height to me because it's just convenient, don't have to look up on be directly looking at their stomach or chest.
Very timely video. I've grown up my entire life never considering height as a trait to judge myself based on. My height is also pretty average for my country and sex. However in recent times I've started to be more insecure about it, and I've also started to compare my height with people I see on the street and wishing I was taller. Before I was insecure about my height I was insecure about other things though, so maybe it's just natural to be insecure about some aspects of yourself as if it's something that happens automatically.
It's pretty normal to have insecurities but I so think social media and how much we tend to focus on it and the opinions people tend to have, isn't helping anyone.
I think a big misunderstanding is that most short people (like me 170cm) don't want to be taller to just for the sake of being taller, more atrractive, bigger etc. It obviously has more to do with the things that come with height, like easy respect and dating succes. I for one don't care at all about being a head shorter than ppl on the street, but i DO want a partner and to feel loved which seems to never happen in big part cause of my height.
@terroristswin3461 I think its a serious disadvantage and I agree the obsession is insane. But then again I do know ppl my stature that have girlfriends so its no impossible either
Guys. 170 cm is not small. Me (girl) and my friends ahve never ever even talked about not dating someone because he being short. Seriously: you are very probably convincing yourself about it by repeating this concept between you guys. For sure there are superficial women looking at heigh (as much as there are men obsessing over girls' weight), but...are you sure you want actually be with such a person? One of the most attractive guys I know is undes 160cm, but he is carismatic, creative, does sport and that is what is cool about him! Try to focus on the unique and nice parts of you personality and you passions! That's the game changer, for you and others! This "height" problem is just as big as you yourself make it!
I'm sure there are women that care less, yeah. They're just rare that's all. Also not explicitly saying it doesn't mean it's not true. I have a ton of girl-friends but they never see me as more (which is fine if i just like them as people) but then when they're crazy about a guy he's nearly always tall. Guess that's just supposed to be a coincidence... j@@val_wildling767
@@0mnislasher1it is. I've seen ridiculous comments about short guys. Especially in reddit or any dating channel. It's always the shortest guy being made fun
As always, such a great video. I think people who go in for this specific surgery don't understand quite the toll it takes on the body, and the years of work that come attached to having a bone broken and separated over time. I also think they understimate the pain: you cannot anesthetize bones. You can anesthetize flesh up to the bone but anyone who's had a bone marrow biopsy or a bone marrow donation/transplant proceedure will tell you, the pain is very intense, and it sticks for a while. I understand feeling like you're not "good enough"; but let me tell you that you are a valued person, you are more than what you look like. I know some women are brutal, but try and find the good ones that will love you for who you are, and not for how you look like.
I've always thought about and wondered whether or not our bones could feel anything at all. After reading your comment I can confidently say that my questions were answered and a new fear has awoken inside me.
@@fresanegra77 Oh, haha, I'm sorry. Yeah, bones have a lot of nerve endings on them so they are sensitive; not like your fingers and lips. I don't know how much difference there is between long and trabecular bones in terms of pain, but I assume it is equally unpleasant.
@@lilpixie25 oh don't worry, I'm actually thankful for the information (even if it made me cringe real hard at the thought of going through it) and besides, it's really interesting to know
This comment is so out of touch it’s crazy. “Just love yourself” and “the right one will find you” is the most tired advice. Height is a factor in every arena of life, not just your love life. I’m fine with my height, but there’s guys who are just dealt an incredibly bad genetic hand, and it’s absolutely folly to suggest they shouldn’t try to make their existence the best it can be. If they do their due research and decide the benefits outweigh the risks for them then all power to them. The world is built by people who are unreasonable and unyielding
@@zyzzsdisciples6707 Absolute bollocks, as well as hilarious that you think it's out of touch. But to be expected from someone with an unironic gigachad pfp.
You are most certainly my favourite youtube doctor, this one was a banger, from a short king to another. edit post note: sometimes I applaud after videos, this was one of them
this is just... sad. as a woman, i do tend to go for taller men - but only because i'm 5'9, lol. and even then, i only really want a minimal height difference (my ex boyfriend was 5'11). really short women with an exclusive preference for taller men will always confuse me, though... the height difference in most straight couples is just comical most of the time
Agree. How some 5'2 women think they look good next to a 6'3 man is beyond me. I alwys assume daddy issues. 5'2 would look good next to 5'7. Hell, even a 5'7 man and 5'9 woman would look better then having huge height gaps. I'm a gay dude and don't understand the appeal of looking like a toddler next to someone.
@@jamiemohan2049 exactly! also, i feel like it unnecessarily complicates some things as well. two friends of mine are in a relationship, they have a pretty significant height gap, and it’s always very funny seeing how much he has to lean down to kiss her lmao
Exactly because you're a reasonable person with common sense. Being attracted to height in a man is normal and logical, especially if you're tall yourself. But these unreasonable requirements are ridiculous. Its like nowadays if you're not 6ft tall then you're not a real man. And the fact that this sentiment is spreading amongst women is what is worrying for men. Its like, so only 20% of us deserve love? My step mom is like 5 ft maybe 5ft 1 and she said she hates short men and she wished they would all die 😂 then she looked at me and was like "you're lucky you're pretty" like wtf to think those thoughts in your head is already fucked. But to verbalize that to a short man is so mean 😂 she literally felt good about saying that shit to me. women need to start checking other women about this sort of thing because if I responded negatively then I'd be " a short man with a napoleon complex" for simply standing up for myself. And that step mom story is like the 12th worst thing a woman has said to me about height😂 and I'm 5'9 too its not like I'm abnormally short either these women DO NOT CARE😂
"threw one child into the ceiling, threw the other child through the window" "Keeps asking for that. we tried it once, it aint happening again" "Deliberately appears naked in background of my work video calls" you're lucky with your wife, never forget it haha
Thanks for blessing us with your contribution to fixing the lack of Skee-Lo in our lives - and the (as always) fab educational, yet entertaining content, of course! As for tats, what about a true to life imaging of your heart above where it is? ❤
I'm 5 feet tall. Being the shortest person around has made it literally impossible not to have ever "cared" or noticed that I'm below average. Still, i like it. I don't understand why other men feel so bad for being "short" or that it impairs them in some way... In the end it doesn't, not mobility-wise nor romantically. It's just a trait to blame your guilt on
Rohin, how do you keep doing it. I'm laughing hysterically while being educated and made to think about (new) things in different ways. Really appreciate how much effort you put into your videos. I watch them all at least twice
I usually skip the sponsor bits at the end, but that was some incredible planning that went into that. Alternatively you recorded that segment like 10 times at the various stages of beard
In 1981 I had two major back surgeries as a kid. There was a girl on my ward that had one leg shorter than the other. They had this contraption in that they would wind daily to me lengthen it. I’m 158cm and I have thought about that for a while.
Honestly from the ftm perspective I can resonate with shorter men. After transitioning guys my height or shorter than me became more noticeable; not in a bad way, rather that society shames being short so often that you forget those men really do exist. Always helps having a reminder that there are “normal” men around my height. Although I wish they weren’t shamed into wanting to alter their size I understand how discrimination might pressure them into seeking that treatment. I really do question how much of it is due to that rejection? Gender affirming surgery is more popular in cisgender patients and of course i’d never say it’s wrong as a trans individual. But undoubtedly the commodification of cosmetic surgery doesn’t help insecure and dysmorphic people, especially potentially dangerous procedures like BBL’s being pushed constantly. Either way I loved your breakdown of this topic and really appreciated the respect given, very hard to come by these days.
I totally agree. I hate BBLs, breast implants, lip fillers, botox, etc. I understand why people get them, to some extent, but the way they're being pushed is absurd. It's even more ridiculous imo when the surgery isn't to do with something unchangeable naturally. Like, any girl can have a nice ass if she puts in the work, but some people want the easy way out, I guess.
@@yaboiavery5986 yess definitely agree. I wouldn’t care as much if the bbl wasn’t such a commonly fatal surgery due to it being located near an artery. that + getting it done in a strip mall is insane to me
@@tuperduper1489 yeah man, just to me, someone getting something like a bbl says alot about their personality. It might mean that they aren't willing to put work in, that they aren't confident, etc
Tattoo suggestion: that staff with two snakes winding around it so that when people point it out and go “oh haha because you’re a doctor!” you get to launch into an explanation that it isn’t actually a symbol of medicine but gets used all the time by accident
As a 5'2'' (157 cm) guy I must say that effecttively height is something that I was really concerned about for most of my youth. It is hard (not impossible) to achieve some kind of success when all your dates are taller than you. Even an extreme procedure like the surgery (which I obviously can not afford because, well, third world) could not make me grow tall enough to have any chances. So eventually I left the idea behind and accepted my fate as the forever alone uncle. It's not nice but it's a living, I guess.
I know a ton of guys in my parent's congregation that are 5'2 and married.....mostly to girls that are 5'0 or 4'11. They are older but not ancient. If anything it seems that women aren't willing to deal with all the bs men bring to a relationship unless he has something to make up for it, like is a really good cook or is super into volunteerism. I got one of my besties married off by having him volunteer at a animal shelter
I don’t know what to say… I’ve been suffering from severe mental health issues some of which have to do with how uncomfortable being 196cm tall makes me. But I have to admit, by comparing cosmetic surgery to gender-affirming care, you really opened my eyes. Saying that someone is hurting themselves by undergoing these procedures sounds eerily similar to statements that gender affirming care is mutilation. I definitely will be much less critical of people who have underwent cosmetic procedures. However the fact that „sex changes” aren’t being advertised on TikTok while butt lifts are suggests that cosmetic medicine has been overcommercialised. I think that requiring a psychological evaluation for more invasive procedures, as is common with HRT for example could be a useful tool in providing care to those who really need it.
With all the surgeries and conditions you mentioned, I think the truth is complicated and personal. There are many types of pain, both physical and mental, and different people handle them differently. I can somewhat relate to your situation - I'm "only" 190cm and got made fun of in grade school for my height. While I'm not bothered by it today, I wouldn't mind losing a few cm. I struggle with some very different mental issues, and for me the best help was realizing that happiness is a state of mind. It's not perfect, but I'm still here. Good luck to you.
Although I agree with you in general, psych evaluation won't fix the problem. Because psychology and psychiatry are broken and built on broken principles from the start. Misogyny and transphobia aren't just baked into the system, they are the cornerstones of it. So same as I, a trans person, don't want some cishet boomer with conservative biases to assess whether I'm trans enough, I wouldn't want a cis person to go through the same BS to get access to plastic surgery. Which creates a very uncomfortable situation: on one hand, we have cases like Michael Jackson's, where it's pretty obvious he needed therapy, not surgery, but on the other hand, the entirety of psychological and psychiatric fields just can't be trusted.
I think there definitely has to be some sort of informed consent model for cosmetic surgery, but I think it’s not incorrect to say that gender affirming care is pretty different from cosmetic surgery. The rates of regret for transition are astoundingly low compared to cosmetic surgery. Also, as I progress in this video and hear more about surgeries targeting trans women like the clavicle shortening, I have to say my impression within the transgender community has been that these are exceedingly dangerous, not necessary, and regarded as preying on trans women’s dysphoria.
Agreed. By far the mos concerning element of this is the fact that it's being marketed by people who ought to be medical professionals. It's the same as full-body scans, or homeopathic placebos; it's a solution profiting off of augmenting a problem.
19:37 Tattoo idea: The stereotypical tattoo of a heart with your partners name, but with a frighteningly medically accurate depiction of the heart instead.
I’ve never had issue getting dates due to being 5”7. Actually, in the last 4 years I have noticed it’s become a thing on dating apps and stuff, but if all they care about is you being two to five inches shorter than what they think you should be, they’re not worth it. Love yourself and accept yourself, and when someone gets like that, you don’t need to let it even penetrate your shell.
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the rap was *very* good
Nice chandrayaan (sp?) 9 poster in the back!
Certified Rap God
Truly barz
The sponsorship bit at the end was the best I've ever seen. I people don't skip it.
As a American I never thought I'd voluntarily give a doctor money, but the intro and the song were AMAZING.
Thank you that’s very generous of you! 🙏
Extremely talented and funny, thank you for the infotainment.
😂 too relatable
That was pretty great 😂😂
@@MedlifeCrisiswhere did you get that shirt
I read a bunch of leg lengthening surgery forums a while back and it was one of the most doomer corners of the internet I’ve ever seen. I’m a 5’6” man and there were guys on there who were TALLER than me saying with total conviction that their height made their lives unlivable, but somehow being a couple inches taller would fix everything. It was baffling.
Everything tall enough to ride the rollercoasters with the biggest height requirement is perfect. Every inch above is just extra filler.
Yeah it's really sad, I feel for these guys who fixate on physical attributes (a hallmark of incels) as some weird form of essentialism, ie this is how the world works, so in their eyes all their problems are due to that particular thing. Some are even more absurd than height, like their chin or...narrow shoulders like me!
@@MedlifeCrisis Exactly. And any argument made on those forums that someone’s height was normal and they didn’t need the surgery was dogpiled on so quickly-on one of them it was literally against the rules to say anything like that. My best guess is that they’ve developed an attitude of “I’ve tried everything and these stupid normies just keep telling me to magically become confident,” sort of like how a lot of us feel about the “you’re depressed? Have you tried yoga?” sentiment.
Yeah, I think it's safe to say that the actual physical truth doesn't matter that much. A hell of a lot of people getting cosmetic surgery were better looking than me to begin with, but if I was given the exact same money to spend on anything, I know I wouldn't be spending it on my appearance.
This is why I do think proper psychological assessment is desirable - because I'm sure that a hell of a lot of people are convincing themselves that something they feel is being caused by their appearance. When you have guys agonising about their clavicles, I feel like that's definitely what's happening there.
Good thing you have a rap career as plan B when the whole heart doctor thing won't work out!
How can a channel be this unhinged and also so wholesome at the same time?
Bro that 9mm joke was completely out of left field, funny as fuck
Because it addresses things honestly. It’s refreshing sometime to not have to beat around the bush and talk about topics.
@@serratedbeanstalk6089 nobody could have seen it coming - politicians.
half medical deep dive, half witty standup comedy... incredible
agreed! I come here for the bursts of wit that make me laugh out loud!!
Don't forget the crazy rap skill
Agreed. Laughing away to myself whilst cooking dinner.
that’s the rohin sweet spot!
A cardiologist, nonetheless!
“Of course you [Americans] have integrated the metric system into children’s education, because you’re quiet keen on using 9mm’s in schools”. Honestly, thats the greatest burn I have ever heard in my life against Americans, and I’m American.
an extremely clever joke impeccably delivered. I swear I a shed a tear from laughing so hard
I had to pause the video to recuperate from that one
I cracked up and had to pause the video too after shedding a tear. Both from the laughing and from the fact it is true... such a dark joke but so accurate.
Can someone tell a non Americans what is the 9mm joke?
@@dalfifran7572bullet calibre (or caliber as they say)
The obsession with height in American culture is absolutely insane. I was exactly the national average in the US and was considered short by tons of women. I've never had an issue with it in the Nordics despite being shorter than the average. I remember a date with a Danish woman who was a full head taller than me. I asked if that was an issue about halfway into the date and she looked absolutely perplexed and said, "Why would it be?".
I thought this hight thing was because Tinder doesn't have a field for penis size.
As an American, I can tell you that almost any bit of modern American culture is complete consumerist, narcissist, vapid dog shit.
It’s because most Americans have at least some Native American genetics, who were much much taller than the original Western European colonizers. As they bred together, taller Western Europeans with native features started being born and seen as more attractive than the pure Western Europeans in America over time.
@@natk4017
That sounds... made up. Could you provide a source or two?
It’s not just the US. In MANY cultures around the world, taller stature is considered more attractive. Historically, our caveman ancestors would elect the tallest man in the village to be the chief, because they were seen as stronger and thus better suited to protecting the tribe. Women always wanted taller men because taller men were seen as better able to protect them. It’s just human biology. It’s not an American thing. But studies HAVE shown specifically in the United States that the taller of two presidential candidates usually are more likely to get elected. The average US president height is 6’0. But having said that, it is NOT just an American cultural thing.
Hearing the word “waifu” come out of Rohin’s mouth in that falsetto tone was simultaneously the funniest and most atrocious thing I’ve experienced in a while.
i was gonna say it was the last thing i ever expected to happen, but it never even made the list
visceral rage
Despite his serious façade, hes an absolute troll
@@frankcastle1862 Visceral Rage
"Don't message me if you discriminate against people based on race, sexual orientation or gender identity, or if you're under 6 feet tall." Yeah, figures.
The irony is insane isn’t it
@@MedlifeCrisisalmost accidental ratio. Keep going 😊
Every new thing I learn about dating apps makes me so glad to be a lesbian, we still just get our dates by meeting (girl)friends of (girl)friends. (Not always in person anymore of course.) Much easier, and you have someone to complain to if something goes wrong..!
It's like in Austin Powers. "If there's two things I can't stand, it's people who discriminated against others for immutable characteristics, and short people".
@@krombopulos_michael life imitates art after all. Funny that.
I was born without a fibula in my left leg. Due to this it was impossible to for my left leg to grow. I needed to get limb lengthening surgery. It was horriblely painful, almost every minute I had some degree of pain. You are always badly sore, and depending on where the surgeon decided to install the fixator I would have to lock my knee overnight. Considering there was a major medical device drilled into my bone this wasn’t easy. On top of my doctor prescribing as many opiates as the law would allow him to. He would also prescribe valium as because of the pain it was incredibly difficult to sleep. I also had to go to extreme painful physical therapy for at least as long as I was lengthening my leg, which could be months depending on the distance that needed to be corrected. When I found out that some people get this VERY invasive surgery just to be taller it send a shiver up my spine. I’m about 5’6” and my height is the least of my issues.
I'm so sorry, how awful. I hope you're better now. Don't hesiatate to seek therapy (EMDR is pretty good for trauma).
@@whychoooseausername4763 I’m doing well (or at least better) now. My last surgery was (I think) in 2018. Unless I start to develop spinal alignment issues that should me my last surgery.
Because physical pain is just temporary. The emotional pain of being ridiculed by others, and rejected by potential dates is lifelong, and sometimes hurts worse than any physical pain.
@@harsh3948 How do u have gigachad pfp and worry about this stuff? grow up
@@idc1121 havent you realised yet? Generaly speaking people that identify with terms like alpha or seek a chad aesthetic are usually the ones obsessed with their bodies, only its in a way perceived as societally acceptable.
But anyway, being cognisant of other peoples perspectives doesn't mean you need to grow up. You saying grow up just marks you as a growing number of people who lack empathy and critical reasoning skills...
That 9mm joke was soooooo savage! Not as savage as refusing to pass meaningful legislation, but still savage af.
small caliber joke?
Nope, about metric system. Seriously brutal and I love that humour !
@@carlosgaspar8447 Yeah, morbid joke about school shootings
I think he was talking about the push in some states to get teachers and other school staff to carry guns. I don't think he was referring directly to the school shootings.
@@trentgraham465 I agree indeed!
That rap was absolutely fucking sick Dr Rohin! I want more! We need more doctors in this very vacuous medical rap genre
Yes please ❤
The thing is that even if I went through limb lengthening (I am 5’6) to let’s say 5’10, I would still be called short. Or maybe ugly, or perhaps poor. There’s always something people won’t like about me. I can’t change that. I always like to take the stoic approach and try to understand that in the end it doesn’t matter. Life is so short that it makes no sense to chase the unattainable standards of society. F**k what people think .
5'10 is not short, cut the shit.
Awwww, yes. The great teachings of Marcus Aurelius and Ryan Holliday has made my life so much better.
I respect what these short kings go through, but I also know that if they became true stoics that their problems would seemingly cease to exist. It’s inherent within the doctrine of stoicism.
A good thing to remember too is that the prominent standards of society makes you forget that there's such a range in people's preferences. Im a (barely) 5'3 woman and have always really liked short guys. Even my same height (or hell, even shorter than me).
There seems to be just one or two ways to be "properly masculine" and therefor successful projected in the social discourse, but I think there's many different kinds of masculinity and ways of being masculine, and I am attracted to many of them. Its definitely difficult to find them, but there will always be some people out there who would genuinely appreciate you for the way you are
Chiming in to say I'm one of the women who likes average height men. I don't want to date a giant.
Almost nobody thinks 5'10 is short irl.
I love the Skee-Lo inspired rap, its brilliant! I was feeling a bit depressed but now I'm grinning. Thanks Medlife Crisis
so amazing loool, didn't know people still rated skee-lo like that
So fun, funny and well done
You should release it as a song, for reall...
Been saying “wish I was a baller, wish I was a ceiling insulation installer” for far too long now. Excellent stuff
Had a housemate in uni who was a 6'3" woman who always complained about how difficult it was to find guys who were taller than her to date. Ended up marrying a guy 5'5" tall and they're incredibly happy together.
Quite certain that man has a very robust self-esteem.
😊 life is the good stuff
it is interesting that her culture pushed her to date a taller man. Glad she got past that cultural barrier.
My partner and I are the same height, he said he wouldn't have dated me if I were taller. It's astounding to me that someone let something so shallow determine who they spend their life with. I'd still marry him if he was a brain in a vat
Saving this
I remember a few years back i was on a date with a girl. She was telling me that she was surprised how much she liked me because she used to never date short guy. She said she always said, what do you call a guy under 5'10"? A friend.
I was like wow, thanks and ended up ghosting her ass
Yes!! That should be the answer! Ghost those people, don't break your bones for them! ❤
DAAAMN, that is fucked up to say to someone! Even if I was sleeping with her, if a woman said that shit to me, it probably would never leave my brain! Good job ditching that lunatic.
Omg- laughed imagining her saying the quote, not because that shitty excuse for a joke is funny, but because she thought that would go over well with you. Holy shit lol
Good job on ghosting those thots king.
iconic of you
I'm a guy, and I had a friend who was a 5'4" man and to say his hight dominated his life would be an understatement. He became one of the most miserable people I've ever met. He drove all of his friends away becuase of it. To this day, if I ever catch someone making fun of short men I stop them and explain this story. I hate comments about "society today" but todays culture is genuinely so hostile twords short guys. Makes me sad ...
Key being _he_ drove all his friends away, I know the shortest boy in my class was very vindictive and picked on me more than anyone else picked on me (I was pretty tall).
I'm 6'8" btw
Totally. Especially if you live in the west 5 10' is average and lots of things are made with that in mind. I was 5 7 before surgery and got about 4 inches afterwards. Its not that I cared about my height, its the people around me who would notice. I did it become invisble and not be noticed everywhere I go. Now I do. People be saying height doesn't matter and making height a requirement in almost everything, not directly but it literally dominates your life if you're short. :D
Totally. Especially if you live in the west 5 10' is average and lots of things are made with that in mind. I was 5 7 before surgery and got about 4 inches afterwards. Its not that I cared about my height, its the people around me who would notice. I did it become invisble and not be noticed everywhere I go. Now I do. People be saying height doesn't matter and making height a requirement in almost everything, not directly but it literally dominates your life if you're short. :D
@@lyrimetacurl0 no, key being he became, that doesn’t happen in a vacuum, nice attempt to imply that short men are inherently evil though lol
Tbh, my gf had to convince her girl friends that dating a short guy was ok after she shared she was starting to date me. They needed some convincing.
For me, I follow the advice of "not giving a f*** about what people think". It has served me well.
I'd probably insist she unfriend them under such circumstances, or not date her if she's friends with such disgusting people.
Sparkle on Short King its Wednesday
The GF's friends tend to judge the harshest, and also have the highest chance to destroy the relationship by peer pressuring the GF into breaking up
This is further evidence of my theory that women don’t actually care that much about height but attempt to date tall guys anyway simply to impress other women. It’s kind of like men competing over who can get the girlfriend with the biggest bazongas
Do you know why? Honest question, I have hard time to understand this thinking.
Especially if there's a huge height discrepancy certain things tend to get... shall I say, mechanically interesting.
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Please how ?
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$356K monthly is something you should feel differently about....
Lovely! I enjoyed it like I enjoy a $100k monthly around the turn!!!
I know that woman (Maria Angelina Alexander)
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My son has undergone this twice due to a massive disparity in his leg lengths, which obviously caused a lot of issues for him. I can't imagine going through what he did simply because you want to be a few inches taller!. I used to cry (when he wasn't around) as I felt so sorry for him having to go through all the discomfort and pain. This world gets sicker by the minute and it is unlikely to recover whilst people are obsessed by social media and all the trash that brings with it.
Easy to judge when you're not on the recieving end of heightism.
I'm a short guy and I don't plan to have this surgery but I 100% understand others who feel they need it because I live the hell that is being short in a sick culture like ours.
@@garak55 I judged from the perspective of being someone who saw just how hard and brutal this operation is. My son didn't gain the 'benefit' of being taller however as it was just to get his short leg closer to his other, he is 5'8. On your other point, I totally agree that we do live in a sick culture. It makes me so mad when I hear these girls with their lists of must haves for men, being tall being one of those criteria. There hopefully are still some decent females out there who look beyond the superficial, I wish you well.
@somad6997 I can assure you that I am not an incel, I don't think as a 60 year old wife and mother that I really fall into that catagory!.
@somad6997it can also be a generational thing, some of the current right wing implications/associations ppl have among younger ppl is actually part of that “return to tradition” stuff
It's different when it's for cosmetic reasons. The complications rate is little and none and the recovery for a lot of people is a lot less painful
It's deeply sad how isolated these people are, and how commodified relationships are in our society
What else is there?
Yeah, this timeline sucks, but name a good timeline.
capitalism is supposed to endlessly grow so this is what happens when there's no more room in nature and such to endlessly expand into. what if we capitalize on peoples relationships instead.
What business is it of yours how other people decide to pursue their relationships? You do you
Its sad that in our culture(perhaps more accurately species) everyone is expected to be in a realationship. I think many people would be better of if they could be ok with being single. Treating relationships as a possibility not a requirement.
I’m a woman and was at one point so set on this procedure I thought it was life or death. It occupied my mind 24/7 and my leg length still does. I think if I could have afforded it, I would have done it without blinking. It’s crazy how something so inconsequential like leg length can destroy you.
[I actually have a related procedure scheduled now and I feel so weightless. Sometimes changing your body is much easier than changing your mind]
looked into this about 15 years ago while writing a paper about cosmetics in Asia, China mainly. Leg lengthening surgery came up as something people would do in order to be able to get a good job where being taller would allow you to use imposing height to impress and intimidate others (lawyer) or there would be height requirements (flight attendant). Really interesting...
Love how it is used in Gattaca.
As a 5'6/167cm American manlet, I have never once thought "Hey, I need to go into massive debt to become taller!" This is absolutely mental!
Same but in Europe. I did look into it at one stage when I heard about it, but I thought it was just growth injections of some kind that worked, when I heard it was an expensive invasive surgery? Fuck that man, it's no where near enough of a problem. There's 100% a bias to shorter guys in society that many won't notice unless they're short themselves but you can literally just ignore all of it and the parts you can't ignore are usually vain shit that doesn't even matter.
The surgery gives you maybe 3 inches and wrecks your proportions. It's not worth it, it's not gonna help you
there is always turkey and India 15-20K in good hospitals
That's because you weren't young enough by the time your area modernized enough to the point where being short is now an actual detriment for quality of life.
@@WildBandit300 I'm 21, 5'6", it's not a determinant for your quality of life. My friend, 5'7" is with another girl every month. I hang out with my 6'2 aussie friend and still get noticed, I still meet women and although I don't sleep around so can't back that side of things I am in a relationship with a girl that's my height without issue. There's nothing stopping you from succeeding other than vain people on the internet trying to make you feel like shit, I can guarantee you it's your personality that's causing you problems not your height.
As much as I hate being short, the idea of repeatedly getting my legs broken is a deal breaker for me
a leg breaker
Just get into debt with some crims and have the procedure done for free!
At least you fit properly in compact cars and buses. Tall people also have to dodge branches.
There are so many pros to being short. You're just used to them.
The people that win the climbers jerseys at the grand tours in cycling, they are short. Same with Olympic medals in gymnastics.
Come for the medical knowledge. Stay for the beard fetish.
It is majestic 🤩
I might be tall, but I am entirely unable to grow a useful beard. :(
I would gladly be shorter if I had a beard like that.
Or come for both if that's your thing
@@nuclearduck13,😉
Good stuff. Women have been able to speak up more recently about how we’re feeling on body pressure. I think it’s important for men to as well. I like how you carefully navigated ‘this doesn’t feel right for me’ but also ‘this may be very helpful for others’. Self body perception and body modification are a tough topic because there’s so many ‘right’ answers bespoke to the person seeking them. Thoughtfully navigated, and amusingly communicated.
Even as a guy I see that many men can't speak up about insecurities without blaming women for them which is a shame. Especially when it comes to the height thing.
@@BalloonbotBro how do you expect guys to speak about things without blaming women when it's women who set the standard to begin with?
@Balloonbot the real issue is that it's completely taboo to mention that women's standards may be creating these pressures. And they are. There are plenty of examples of this, even in this video. It's worth discussing, but instead we just blame men's issues on men themselves, telling them to "fix themselves." It's clearly not any more constructive than if someone were to exclusively blame women. The origin of the problem needs to be addressed, even if it is ugly and may critique women. Men have been critiqued for things like these for decades, right? Surely women can handle the same process.
@@Chicodon008 While women did set the standard in that the standard for what is attractive for a man _always_ has to be confirmed by women to be real... I rather doubt it was really the idea of women as a group. Probably some smaller, specific group. (I haven't done the research to figure out who, though.)
@@_Lumiere_ You make a good point with "men have been critiqued for things like this", so I want to confirm that what I just said applies also to men's standards for women. There seem to be a few small groups of powerful men setting various standards for what men expect in a woman. (However, in the case of men's standards for women, there seem to be multiple competing standards. And actually, there are multiple competing standards for what women expect from men as well, when you think about it.)
As someone who is barely above the threshold to qualify as having dwarfism, it honestly does kind of suck in many ways (this summer I got the 10 and under menu when out with my family). But tbh, so much of my life has been shaped by being short that the idea of me gaining a few inches feels... uncomfortable? It's weird, but imagining myself as being a normal height seems as foreign to me as imaging myself as being a different race. I don't know if this perspective adds anything, but I thought I'd share!
Dude, you do you!
I’m glad to hear someone feeling normal being what they are!
Life is what you make it!
well yea im 5'1 and ive literally never cared
if anything ive always been the "king"/funny guy growing up through school, just for being short (?)
but after leaving school its different, u start seeing how other ppl judge u on ur height
even tho i did never care, ive definitely focused on its effect since.
and i dont think its possible for ppl to "not care what other people think". im largely in the same camp of, i do things without thinking about ppl being judgemental, but when u are clearly getting ostrasized and u got no one to back you, you start questioning things. we are social creatures at the end of the day, of course having a healthy social life is paramount to a healthy life.
crouch a bit when they measure you dude....get that disability
As a guy thats 5'9" standing around people taller than me makes me look short and standing around people shorter makes me look taller. Im not short but peoples perceptions are easily swayed especially when at family gatherings where the men taller than average. I wouldnt pay for those extra inches but i can see how they would be appealing to those in my position or slightly shorter where the height difference wouldnt mess with proportions.
No what you had to say added nothing..
Absolute banger of a track. Made my heart fibrilate with poetic bliss. It'd be a waste not to pursue a rap career, along the whole youtube/doctor business. I'm sure you'll handle it great.
I am 5"4 and my height has never bothered me. What was bothering is being mocked and insulted by my classmates in primary and middle school. Problem was not my height; it was the children around me. It is sad that children can be very ruthless towards each other. Eventually they grow up and learn to behave civil but bullied children carry the scars throughout their adult life. Teach your children not to bully other children based on their appearances. Now I am 30 and seeing some women posting insulting comments about short guys on social media. I don't understand the point, the motive behind using vulgar language towards short men. Everybody can have preferences in dating, but these preferences are meant to be communicated in civil manner, and privately.
They all sound like horrible people, who cares what they think
I'm exactly 6'0. I also spent five years working in a basement kitchen with pipes at 5'6". I then dated one girl on tinder who accused me of lying about my height because I wasn't hitting my head on the vents in her basement apartment. Sometimes you just can't win.
huh, didn't she hear of ducking??
As a tattoo artist, people tend to suck at actually understanding sizes, specially length, still seems bad to me that she felt that way, but I don't know anything.
Where's the connection with basement pipes?
@@nd264u7 I had a lot of ingrained muscle memory for ducking around obstacles in basements
I think you won by finding out early that she was a silly billy
The rap is something else, I think if the medical field isn't doing it for you anymore I think you might have a possible career in music lined up
That intro song was absolutely amazing and life changing for me!! Skee-Lo would be proud!!
I was 5'6 but after hip surgery I am now 5'5. Looking forward to being even shorter after my knee surgeries! I'll be able to start buying childrens trousers again for that sweet 0% VAT. #benjaminbutton #novatlife
Vat is bull
Brutal
@@cirelestenVAT is just there to get more money from the poor for increasing wealth disparity. Its actually just disgusting.
Hope you gain a milometer for each thumbs up
Do you think you'll ever manage to get in to places for the kids' ticket price? That would be my goal.
Others want to be taller, I just want to possess Rohin's comedic skills. Great video
Coming in 2123, brain surgery to make you neurologically funnier!
That 9mm joke threw me off guard so much lmao
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721yep very true.
As a kid, I used to have some issues regarding my height and not growing taller than my dad, but I've largely accepted my genetic lot and have chosen to focus on other charm points when I do actively care about my appearance.
Also, the full moustache I had by age 12 was a point of pride for me, especially since all the white boys couldn't even get close.
You seem like the kind of guy who could pull off a tattoo of a heart with a name in it; your own name. Bond points for the heart-cardiology connection.
An anatomically accurate heart, I'm sure. None of that ideographic nonsense.
_bonus points?_
@@EggBastion Ah yeah. Autocorrect got me there. I'm just happy it wasn't accidentally dirty.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 oh yes, with the ECG on it too. Instead of the usual PQRST label he should label the ECG with ROHIN, that would be hella dope man! 🎉
Here's an interesting bit about the Turkish hair transplant market. In Turkey, doctors take a centralized exam to go on to specialize. Since there are only so many spots for each specialty, the minimum score needed to enter each specialty depends on supply and demand. Traditionally, the highest points were for prestigious and life-critical fields like cardiology and neurosurgery. Recently though, the situation flipped on its head - dermatology is now the most competitive specialty for newly minted Turkish doctors. Our best and brightest doctors go into dermatology while the doctors who barely scraped by are becoming neurosurgeons.
I think this is due to two trends that have been going on for years. The first being the absurd amount of money dermatologists can rake in from international customers. The second one isn't as well-known, and it's the fact that Turkish people treat doctors like absolute garbage. Especially if you're in an overcrowded and underfunded public hospital, getting beaten or killed by angry visitors is not out of the question. Even the most idealistic and starry-eyed doctor would become jaded and amoral after spending a few years in their mandatory public hospital residency. The healthcare system is falling apart because of this, and ultimately Turkish society has only itself to blame.
How interesting. Doctors are often treated with a reverence they do not always deserve by some groups or societies, and it's not hard to see how that might be the case. But the behaviour you refer to in Turkish hospitals seems to indicate a high level of mistrust and lack of respect among the general population, and I wonder if you have any information or ideas about why that might be the case?
Can confirm, one of the reasons I outright denied studying medicine
Will update if I ever end up going crazy and switch my major
Bro the situation is exactly the same in india...
about lesser known fields, i'm from ph 🇵🇭 and we have a lot of civil engineers. there's so many of them and so few construction projects their starting salaries are at $300 a month. in contrast our semiconductor industry earns about $80 billion a year. we sell more of it than any european nation. more than any western country in fact ex the usa. yet I do not know a single electronics engineer in person.
@@Ozymandi_as I genuinely have no idea what happened.
I just discovered I have socioeconomic dysphoria. I'm a $200k / year engineer soul trapped in an unemployed body.
Great go work for it just like those guys went through the surgery no one is stopping you full support to you.
That 9mm joke hit home, great aim!
Savage
It caught me off guard
I see what you did with those last two words.🤣🤣
3:00 To those interested, this film is called Gattaca. It is a film about eugenics and the film focuses on a pair of brothers, one genetically engineered and one naturally conceived.
The sibling who gets the leg lengthening is Vincent, the naturally conceived one. Jerome, the one on the wheelchair, is the brother who was genetically engineered to be an athlete but suffered an accident (none of this is a spoiler; it is all explained upfront).
Mind you, these brothers love each other a lot, but they also fight a lot due to miscommunications and societal issues, and both have internal struggles. I deeply recommend watching it at least once.
Not quite. Jerome isn't his brother - but like you said, he's a genetically engineered athlete who suffered a career-ending injury. The naturally conceived hero, Vincent, pays him to lend him his identity via fake fingerprints etc. so he can be an astronaut, since in that society only the most eugenic people qualify for space travel. Vincent does have a genetically engineered "superior" brother, but it's a different character.
YOOO I WATCHED THAT MOVIE IN MY BIOLOGY CLASS
I'VE BEEN SEARCHING EVERYWHERE FOR ITS NAME THANK YOU
@@robotizedcyborg7788I watched it in Science class in school. I loved it. Totally agree with OP that everyone should watch it at least once.
I think in that movie it wasn't actually genetic engineering but a very high level of genetic _screening_ . Technology was at a level where the average person could have dozens of in vitro fertilizations, test the DNA in each of those and then implant and carry to term the one which happened to get the most beneficial combination of chromosomes.
That's one of my favorite movies! But the 2 characters aren't brothers
I've been following you on UA-cam since you only had a couple of thousand subscribers. Now you have 540 000 and you are STILL in my opinion, one of the most underrated UA-camrs. You deserve many more! Truly talented at mixing entertainment with medicine.
To my mind, the tragedy isn't that people are affected by bullying and prejudice, it's that there's so much bullying and prejudice.
This is nothing new, and no different from all the other ways society deems certain characteristics beautiful. It’s not bullying that society has certain beauty standards, that’s been the case for as long as there’s been humans. The only real difference is the invasive nature of the operation
@@zyzzsdisciples6707Beauty standards have always been there but never was it this bad that so many men just can't date due to their height.
@@zyzzsdisciples6707 Beauty standards can vary time and place. Culture is not immutable.
@@Chicodon008Beauty standards have never been this bad? Is that a joke. Look at Asia, where if you're darker than a paper bag, you're considered ugly. This has been the case for centuries. Skin bleaching is a billion dollar industry. But now it's bad? Sure.
@@Chicodon008 I'm willing to bet they could date, but don't want fatties or chicks with children.
Everyone has their prejudices, even those who are more often on the relieving end.
Hahaha, the facial hair advert was amazing, the transitions ............... seemless.
I underwent three leg lengthening surgeries between the ages of 9 and 12 due to a shortened right leg. The idea that anyone would subject themselves to this kind of procedure voluntarily and for purely cosmetic reasons is completely insane to me. This isn't a simple surgery, it's painful and traumatising, or at least it was for me.
This video kinda struck a cord with me. I am saving up for abdominoplastic surgery at the moment. I've lost 25kg a few years ago and have lots of excessive skin around my tummy. It's partly medically necessary: My belly-button is now very deep so I get frequent skin irritations and sometimes infections. The skin is also annoying when I jump or run. But to be completely honest, a big part of the reason is that I finally want to look like my peers who have never been overweight. Nothing superhuman, not an insanely flat tummy - Just a normal 23-year-old woman who doesn't look like she has had two pregnancies. In some way, I think this is what I deserve after years of growing up overweight and being mistreated by others because of my appearance. I feel like I might be able to move on, once I have the surgery - Though I'll probably need to work on other aspects as well to finally feel better. Anyway, thank you for speaking so empathetically about this issue.
Same, I also don’t take things for granite either
@@Jwellsuhhuhtake things for granted*
@@eragonawesome whooooooooosh
Do what is best for you! Congrats on the weight loss, and you absolutely deserve it. Personally I also think your situation is very different from people who look nothing out of the ordinary but think a cosmetic change will significantly improve their quality of life on all aspects. While they're entitled to make their own medical decisions, and I have nothing against that, they will have a shit time once they realise their life is actually the same.
the last sentence reminds me of something a lot of men and women in the fitness industry suffer from - body dysmorphia. People look at their bodies, see millions of flaws, work on them, fix one or couple things, but find new flaws - in an endlessly repeating cycle.
I really appreciate your approach to this video as it has been really introspective. I got a mammoplasty reduction 11 years ago because of the damage my breasts were causing to my ribs and back but I still suffered from sensitivity issues to this very day. I will admit I honestly see that surgery as an improvement to my mental well-being though more than my physical well-being despite it being a medical necessity.
As a 23-year-old 5' 7" "short king" who is very much failing spectacularly in the dating game, I've never considered having this surgery. I'd rather wait a few years and get into a relationship with an AI than get into hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, months of excruciating pain, and permanently damaged legs, just for a chance of getting into a vain relationship with someone that only gave a shit about me because of my height. Don't get me wrong, I find both of these relationships equally meaningless, but at least I can larp as Ryan Gosling in the first one lol.
Why are you failing the dating game? It's not a matter of height, it never is.
Just based purely on physical characteristics, it depends on what you're looking for. I doubt many dudes below 6 feet are hooking up much but a lot of dudes 5'3 and upwards are definitely getting into happy, healthy relationships. Probably would help if you don't have social anxiety.
My other half is a couple of inches taller than you and I'm average wimmin height. It's never bothered me, or him, I'm as tall as him at least in heels. There's more to life than this. I'm not saying it's something else wrong with you. I'm saying it's maybe not you. Not directly. I think it's probably hard to meet people and the older you get the harder it is... If you want to find someone I hope you do. But don't assume it won't. I will say I've met loads of amazing ppl lately by joining a group I started off online only with and then ended up travelling to go to meets for it a few times, and it's blown my mind how many people are still around that could be potential options if I was looking. I'm nearly 40. Think about what you enjoy and go from there.
It's a about confidence, nothing to do with height. @@freespiritable
5"7 is average height in my country
I watch too much youtube and so much great content out there, but nobody is as good as Doc Rohin. Thank you for your sharing your brilliant talent.
My husband is 5'6". And the most frustrating part about it is how other men treat him. Men will talk down to him and even threaten him, often using the word little during said verbal altercations. (This actually happens a fair bit during work, as he is unwilling to break rules like his previous manager did and got fired for.) And other men also treat him like he's some 20 something year old immature kid, just starting out on the job front, when he is 36 years old, married and with 3 kids. (Wsy too many people treat him like he's either not an adult, or just barely an adult.) He gets passed over for leadership roles. And he is not taken seriously about life issues.
The wild thing is that he is physically a fair bit stronger than a lot of guys. Being short doesn't mean weak. And his strength is one reason that he is asked to help friends move or lift things on the regular. And he is a highly intelligent person as well. He is generally very likable. And he really never had trouble with the ladies, even though shorter men are often overlooked. He both has a great personality and is generally quite good looking.
I'm not tall either at very, almost 5'4". Most of my friends have at least an inch on me. But as a woman, I don't deal with the same issues for being on the shorter end of the spectrum. Although, as I have had a good solid skin care routine for forever, I haven't aged as fast as a lot of women my age. And that can really be a mixed bag. Some people are more polite to those who look younger. But women who are my age will treat me like a kid. And that gets irritating.
As a very short woman (5ft) i definitely feel like there are significant drawbacks to my height. I feel like it's hard to be taken seriously (which is especially an issue professionally). It's a real struggle to find clothes that fit. I miss out on some educational activities because I can't see over my peers' backs. Safety equipment is statistically less effective/safe for me. I need assistance for basic tasks like reaching groceries on high shelves.
I think it's just that deviating from the "average" in any way comes with drawbacks. As a very short person though, I don't understand this idea that people over 5'5 are short (but I'm looking at everyone from a different perspective - my definition of "tall" has a much lower bar than average.)
I shouldn't be surprised or shocked that this phenomenon exists.......shouldn't... I knew about Osteotomy procedures as I almost had one done a few years ago due to lack of cartilage in my knee - so, out of necessity. But this leg-lengthening thing is a "cosmetic mental disorder" and the whole mental part of this phenomenon is something that needs to be taken much more seriously!
Love your videos!
A Skee-Lo parody is not what I thought I needed this morning, but I was wrong.
It brings a lot of awful childhood (and recent) memories hearing all your personal stories about people making fun of your height. It’s painful.
Slowly over the years growing up, I managed to just tune out all the hurtful remarks about my height.
But thank you for the words of encouragement by the end of your video.
Thank you so much.
Sincerely,
160cm guy
If it helps, I got made fun of because I'm tall. You can really never make everyone happy.
@@plantcraftie4141Would you rather be tiny?
@@plantcraftie4141As a 173cm tall girl who shot up in the 8th grade, I so relate to this. Kids can be so mean.
@@on_my_own_two_feet i was that length in 6th grade 😅
@@gj9157Smaller people are far easier to transport in bags
"Short men who are going to great lengths to be tall"
This is why I'm subscribed
this is so weird, i was *just* having this conversation with my husband yesterday! i think the way short men are treated is preposterous. i’ve seen dating shows where the woman says her deal breaker is a man under 6ft (so, much taller than average) but gets angry when the dude says he prefers women who are thin and/or fit. don’t get me wrong, i think the latter is still uncool, but the lack of self-awareness to make your number one requirement in a romantic partner a physical trait but find it reprehensible for the other person to do the same is WILD. also, i at least understand the latter a bit more, because perhaps being very active and living healthy is a big part of your life and you want someone with that in common. while the former is just straight up shallow.
i say this as an overweight person myself, and i’m really not trying to be a pick me; far more often i find guys on dating apps and such much more vile. but this particular issue really bothers me.
Yup, fk fat womenz
I love my bald, short and ethical doctor ❤
read this comment exactly when he said it 😂
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It's got to be an anatomically correct heart with crossed scalpels behind it and a scroll saying "Mum". A reference to doctor patient confidentiality. :) Loved the video by the way. Very thoughtful. Also love Contrapoints.
That's a badass tattoo idea ngl
I had a distant relative in Russia undergo the Ilizarov procedure in the nineties, she was a woman btw, and it was every bit as medieval as the thing makes it look. A ton of money, a year of torturous pain and lifelong chronic pain in her legs for a 5 cm difference, I had no idea it made its way to the west before I read the same article that you mentioned in the beginning. But in your ethical considerations you basically repeated what I saw many trans people argue: if you advocate for ultimate patient agency and bodily autonomy, it should also include 'gender affirming surgeries for cis people' and all kinds of other surgeries that you'd never agree to for yourself. People who oppose gender affirming surgeries almost always consider them immoral and then find ways to dress it up in medical or political language, so doing the same thing to breast implant surgery or hair transplants would be hypocritical to say the least.
I still don't get how gender affirming surgeries have become a thing.
Just like the people trying to fix their height I believe they are aiming at the wrong thing...
@@sonkeschmidt2027 right, you’re entitled to that opinion but that’s none of your business though.
@@everwhatever It is his buisness if he is a taxpayer, and this surgeries are done using his tax money because they "save lives".
Or there may be a lot of other reasons why it is his buisness.
@@Straga_Severagender affirming surgeries are not paid by taxes. even in countries with universal med care. source: had to pay the full price for mine
Yeah tho it's worth mentioning that gender affirming surgeries are not without controversy within leftist / progressive circles
As an example I can note that certain trans people regret going through their surgeries because they felt pressured by the very transphobic society we live in. How can you talk about informed consent in a world where you can be attacked for not passing?
A question appears: do I really want to have bottom surgery or maybe I just want to be accepted?
Not to mention that trans people are subjected to the same unreachable beaty standards as cis people which only brings another layer of mess
As such no, I don't believe it's that simple. The same people who attack trans women for being "too masculine" will also attack masc presenting cis women. The same people who patronize trans men for being "too feminine" will look down on short cis men
It's all a part of the same superficiality no amount of surgeries will ever fully fix. In the meantime there're a lot of people who will cash in on your insecurities
I actually had this surgery twice due to a damanged growth plate meaning there was a huge length difference between my legs. I spent nearly two years disabled and it was incredibly painful, I could never imagine choosing to go through it. I also wish they could've made my other leg shorter instead because I'm a really tall girl now and I'd prefer to be shorter. It seems like that should be easier than making it longer but I'm sure there's good medical reasons why that doesn't work. That said, I do feel that it should be allowed with really really clear consent forms and information.
Edit: I've now watched the full video and I think you raised some very interesting points about the distinction between gender affirming care for trans people's dysphoria and similar care for cis people. I think I have some good insight with this matter as a trans woman who's struggled with other body image issues. I can actually seperate in my mind my specfic gender dyphoria and my feelings around traditional beauty standards. The feeling and desire to change my primary sex characteristics feels unbreakable, that it isn't a want but a requirement for my survivial and something that will constantly stab at me like a needle in my shoe. Not only that it feels as though it comes from inside, that it is a need deep to my core. Compared that to the temptations of other changes, such as wanting to be dangerously thin or the want to fit society's view of how I should be. Those wants feel like external pressures, still things I'd have if I could without consequence, but they do feel different and like they can be fought against.
There is actually some internal distrinction between the need to be a woman, and the desire to be beautiful. They are quite different in my eye and I think that's the key difference as to why some procedures should be optional and paid by the patient, and others should be treated as medical necessities and funded like other care.
Above all this however I do believe in a person ultimate choice to do with their body as they wish, so long as doctors are honest about risks and harms, anyone should be able to do as they please. It certainly shouldn't take the absurd amount of gate keeping currently present (at least in the UK). I mean a 5-20 year wait, 2 doctors, 2 psychs, plus like 5 evaluations is insane to be honest.
You can't shorten nerves with current medical knowledge. If you shorten a bone considerably you would need to shorten all other structures, too to make the leg still work.
The other way round: most structures will stretch and adjust to greater length. That's what the slow stretching is for.
I got leg lengthening surgery once using a Fitbone surgery, because of a damaged growth plate. At the time it was deemed an experimental surgery in Finland. I had the choice of getting this surgery or the older outside of leg metal bracket. I'm glad I got the fitbone surgery, because there was very little pain with it. I basically only had pain for a week or two when it was installed and removed. When the lengthening was in progress I could mostly just live normally. I was told to not put weight on the leg and I walked using crutches. I did try walking slowly without crutches once. Even then there was no pain and it was quite a long walk. Leg lengthening surgery has improved a lot in the past 20 years.
@@susanne5803 Fair enough, I'm not a doctor but I figured it would be something like that. I was a kid at the time so I never got much of an explaination of how it all worked. One benefit of this explosive popularity is getting to see it explained in videos I guess.
@@sophieclements908 I am old and helped as a school kid as a "nurse assistant". Among my duties was playing with little kids who got one leg stretched surgically because of extreme length differences or anatomic differences. It was very boring for them.
I read your edit. It's very difficult to figure out the distinction between real drives and social expectations - especially when they are sex or gender related.
I'm a cis woman. And my generation fought for wearing jeans and working without make up, perfume and jewelry. But it got so far as to be a social pressure, too. For me a woman with trousers, no make up, no perfume and no jewelry still emotionally feels "free". Which is the bias of the social group and age group I belonged to. Others had and have other biases.
With age things calm down for many folks. Most of us become more forgiving as regards the traits and quirks of others and ourselves.
All the very best to you!
Yes! A lot of these cosmetic surgeries I see as gender-affirming, regardless of if someone is cisgender or not. It is so much harder nowadays since online dating has made it so much easier for someone to decide if they want to pursue a relationship with only an impersonal glance at a profile.
As a psychology student, looking at your wife's list, I would recommend getting tested for ADHD :D
Oh it was formally diagnosed some years ago :) I've talked about it a little in a Q&A video where I found my old school report which was...pretty much textbook ADHD. It was a rough time, I drove my mum crazy and got in a lot of trouble at school.
@@MedlifeCrisis Report Cards: "just apply themselves and focus"
Us: "Weeeeeeee! Ahahahaha!" _swinging from monkey bars_
@@RavingKats "A Pleasure to Have In Class" :)
I played a game of how many I could get on a single report card
@@RavingKats"your son's a bright boy, but he'll never get anywhere if he doesn't do his homework!"
Her words haunt me to this day...
Hilariously it's almost the exact same list I could write about my boyfriend (except we don't have a house or kids, but it would probably end the same)
Although obviously, getting your self worth from whether women find you attractive is incredibly unhealthy and absolutely no way to live, I want to provide a bit of affirmation for the short kings out there. There absolutely are women who actively prefer shorter men, and find them more attractive than tall men. I know because I’m one of those women! I’ve always preferred men who were short and skinny, I don’t really know why, but I just love a guy who’s compact, lmao. The recent dungeons and dragons movie made me feel very seen. Also, I suspect that at least one of the writers for parks and recreation feels the same way because female characters would mention it as a positive thing every now and then. I used to crush so hard on Tom Haverford.
Unfortunately I remember these examples so well because it’s not something that’s talked about in our culture very often, it’s probably similar to how many men actually prefer women with smaller breasts, but most don’t really admit to it because it’s not the “norm”. I remember one time I mentioned to my grandma that I have a huge crush on the werewolf guy from Buffy and she just stared at me like I was insane. He’s 5’4” which means he’s a little shorter than me, and I find that super attractive but if I mention that people act like that’s sooo weird, as if there aren’t way stranger things that it’s acceptable for women to be into.
I think some women tend to choose men based on how they’ll affect their social status more than whether they’re actually attracted to them. A lot of girls want to have the most “impressive” looking boyfriend possible so they can flex on their female friends. Height is an easy way to measure how much a person literally stands out from others, and it has the bonus trait of being extremely difficult to change (as this video demonstrates), which makes it all the more exclusive. Basically, the girls who are obsessed with super tall men are often the same girls who prefer flashiness over quality. They’d rather have a super impressive guy than a guy they actually like or get along well with. It’s often not even about attraction at all, it’s just about shallow social appearances.
Of course, if it’s society itself that’s viewing you as “less impressive”, I guess that’s still something that could make a guy want to change his height, so maybe what I’m saying isn’t really helpful to everyone. But I just wanted to say that if you’re worried specifically about not being attractive enough to women, most women don’t care about height nearly as much as they might pretend to. And some women, like me, find shortness in men extremely attractive, it’s just not a common thing for women to tell others about.
The issue is one of ratio, there are not nearly enough girls willing to overlook height for every short dude out there. And even if a girl doesn't mind dating a short guy, her friends will most likely pressure her into finding someone taller.
@@andreipopa2128 I think there are enough girls for short guys. Just that they are not at the same place at the right time.
Maybe make a dating app for shorter people and for people who don't have height requirements for their partners. There are a lot of short women too.
Absolutely agree. I‘m a 5'2/158cm short woman, being with a 6' guy admittedly makes me feel quite uncomfortable, thus I‘m can‘t find myself being attracted to them. Anyone more than around 20cm taller than me doesn’t feel right & is just not for me. Someone just slightly taller than me however would be really attractive in my eyes. And there are many short women, even shorter than me. I dont understand the need for huge height differences in couples at all
@@am-yn6neWish more women thought like you.
@@am-yn6ne Agreed. I’m also 5’2”, and think my ideal boyfriend height would be 5’6”. Not that I’d rule out other heights, that’s just the ideal.
Love the music video. But I really liked that this wasn't just a one-sided commentary.judgement, but opening up the discussion with additional questions.
DUDE , there are not enough like buttons for this masterpiece. Medicinal info plus your sassy jokes made mi night watching this. Greetings for Chile my dude, thanks for staying true
Hey Rohin, I’m 5’1”, which is… rough.
I believe that puts me in the 1st percentile among men. It is usually the first thing people comment on when they see me, but I didn’t realize the degree of disrespect in engendered until the pandemic, when the sudden switch to Zoom meant people who had never met me took my points far more seriously.
I appreciate the care that went into this video, and the delicacy required to walk the line between paternalistically telling people how to live their own lives and warning them about what is, ultimately, still a very dangerous procedure.
One comment I’d like to add, particularly since you said you moght address “commodification” again with respect to plastic surgery, is that commentators often neglect one of the benefits of turning luxuries, privileges, or impossibilities into commodities: egalitarianism.
Where once sugar, spices, and a full wardrobe were available only to the wealthy, they are now widely available even to citizens of poor countries (though their poverty, it should be noted, is often a result of the slavery and imperialism that allowed for commodification of these goods in the first place). Meat, over-the-counter medicine, and personal vehicles are also goods which were previously luxuries but are now widely available, albeit in the first world.
Commodification doesn’t exactly erase inequality-you still have to pay for things (hence why countries like the UK opt to socialize medicine), but it does lower the barriers.
I get frustrated when I see people, often quite privileged, complain about commodification. It often comes across as a worry that somebody might be able to buy into what they got, unearned, for free.
I won’t get leg-lengthening surgery. I love running and skiing too much to risk losing the ability to do either. But I also don’t begrudge anyone who spends their money trying to look a little closer to what so many Hollywood stars were born looking like-any more than I’d begrudge them for not eating the gruel of their peasant ancestors.
Wrote a thousand words but missed the point
@@scrumptious9673Do you have a critique of substance, or just empty snark?
I don't think it works that way, the people having these surgeries are rich people, this one specifically is popular among dudes in silicon valley, thinga getting cheaper to produce often makes them more widely available but that is not an effect of commodification, specially because commodification can come with exclusivity and elitism, also the first world comprises more or less 1.2 billion people, so the huge majority of people, about 85% still can get most of those things.
@@ZeteticPhilosophermogged.
It really never began
Hello down there!
Thoroughly enjoyed that Rohin, great video. You could post once a year with bangers like this and be worth the wait.
Also, on the topic of the video and to provide anecdotal evidence regarding the relation between height & dating life success: I'm 190cm tall, atheltic (runner, not muscular), probably average looking overall, 32 years old with a good job, living in Paris and have been single for more than a decade. As always, the key is the awful personality and self confidence! Or is it the lack of beard?
See, you're not the only one who can subject others to an impromptue therapy session.
Looking forward to the next!
Insecurity is the most expensive thing you can have. Its why advertising forces it on us
I was an early bloomer and tallest girl for about 2 years. The kids I didnt get along with were more vicious and I felt very relieved when I stopped growing at 165 cm. It was great, I longer stood out which only got me negative attention. I can imagine many boys felt the same about being the shortest or lastest bloomer.
saaame! I was already 175cm at 11 years old. My relieve was immeasurable when I stopped growing at 13 years old (180cm).
I was the shortest kid in class, even shorter than the girls for all of primary school. Year 10 of school did me a solid and boosted me up to a height I'm happy with.
I can give you my perspective as a guy that was the exact opposite. Mine wasn't two years, but rather, most of my childhood. I am an identical twin and my brother and I got the short end of the stick genetically...very literally. We were so tiny, skinny, and short and also had overly youthful appearances. People always thought we were many years younger than we actually were and we were always the shortest in our grade, shorter than all the boys and girls, save one or two people.
When we started highschool at 14, we were under 5 feet tall, or around 149cm. I can tell you that we got made fun of for our height a lot.
But that first year of high school is when we hit our growth spurt and both grew like 6-7 inches, and I'm now around 5'9". It's been really weird spending half my life as the shortest kid in every class and now the other half being close to the height of an average American man lol. I'm still slightly below the average height, but I couldn't care less. It's no longer something that affects my life, and I enjoy making jokes about my own height.
@@R0Tladding to that. I was the shortest, smallest, skinniest boy all throughout elementary and middle school. I caught up with most girls beginning high school but never caught up with the other boys. I finally finished at 5’6” (169cm) in senior year of college (age 22!!!). At 175lbs of lean muscle i am taller and bigger than most women, so the height doesn’t bother me much but any mention of it still stings. I married the tall girl in middle school, she barely even remembers being 18” taller and weighting twice as myself in 6th grade. But I do…
I was the shortest by far. I was 147 cm at 14 years old, tied in height with one girl. I hit puberty at 15, growing rapidly to 166 cm when I was 16, tied in height with two other short guys. I've been growing 1.5 cm a year ever since. (I'm 20 years old, 172 cm)
I was treated poorly and so I showed a lot of aggression in the school years, this helped to a certain extend.
I tend to forget that I’m ~ 5’ 7” and have a balding spot on my head. I’m reminded of it sometimes if people point it out or if I happen to be around tall people with great hair. I weigh ~ 200 lbs and I’m not that fat. I played football against large players. I think my lower center of gravity and deceptive power helped. I have wished I was a little taller but I’m just glad to be in relatively good shape and able to enjoy life. I wouldn’t risk the lengthening procedure or take the time to do it. Good luck to all who do.
as a short guy living in one of the tallest countries in the world, It never really bothered me, Ive always wondered why it was seemingly ok to make fun of someone's height, but it wasn't ok to do it with stuff that were clearly changeable (weight, attitude and many others), but It never personally bothered me, Ive been insecure about many other things but not my height, so I can sympathize with someone and I'd hate to be in my 20s now with how prevalent social media is and how easy it is for the voices of a few people make it seem like the whole world thinks the same.
"i heard you're quite fond of using 9mms in schools" holy shit. savage lmao
Beard fetish - if it were a choice, I am taking it. Laughed so hard hearing that. I hope you never tire doing what you do and that you continue to get opportunities doing it.
In the 1990s I watched an investigative news story about non-plastic surgeon MDs performing liposuction after learning at medical conferences. I was kind of shocked that it's not malpractice to perform medicine outside of your specialty if you have been professionally trained. They were talking about dentists and dermatologists and all sorts of MDs were offering liposuction because it was considered a simple procedure to perform and easy to learn. The big point of the story was ASK if your plastic surgeon actually did their residency in cosmetic surgery, especially if you found them through advertisements.
rohin out here defying the narrow, bigoted stereotype that doctors can't rap......really holding it down at the frontiers for us💪🏽. in case the cardiology side hustle fails for u, the world of rap is open to lil medlife
If he put out songs like this, I'd listen to ever lil Meds' song. A true masterpiece.
The song did earn an instant Like ...
Omg, the Skee-Lo skit had me rolling 😂😂
If you want to be macabre, when I was working at Walter Reed, the double, above knee amputees would sometimes discuss what height they wanted to be with their prosthetics.
Really hope this leg lengthening doesn’t turn into willingly amputating legs in exchange for adjustable ones.
Of all the jokes sprinkled throughout the video the one that really got me was the "UA-cam Shorts" one
Distraction Ostiogensis is what I’m embarking on for my jaw. I can’t imagine people wanting to do that for height. I’m short at 152cm I would love to be taller but not that way. We need to be better at being more accepting foe who we are.
Having a facial differences is also an unsaid discrimination against society kind of sucks.
I completely agree, it's horrible that people are voluntarily doing this and even paying for it, all because they don't feel accepted. Everyone is unique and to act as if inherent physical traits play any role in how someone should be treated is deeply saddening. That being said, all that's needed to fix it is a little compassion and understanding, and I'm optimistic for the future. I hope everything goes well with your surgery!
I think even in a world where everyone was accepting, some ppl would still have strong preferences about wanting their body to be different and it’s good if that becomes more of an option that’s more accessible. If being a few inches taller really helps someone have more of the body they want I think we should generally celebrate that being something ppl can do now instead of assuming there has to be something wrong with someone for wanting it or that there’s something inherently better about accepting one’s body as is over trying to change it.
I'm 5'6 and also have no trouble with my height, I think it's because I focus on the things I can control like fitness, intelligence and career progression. Plus, I surround myself with genuine people not shallow people. Making jokes of my own height is a don move and shutting down untastful height jokes with a sarcastic clap and praise of it's originality. Understandable to be sad about height in lots of contexts though. Remember you are the sum of all your parts so make it that height is brought up by your characteristics' overall average.
I’ve always found this subject interesting, my dad was about 5’8” and my mom is 6’ and I perfectly split the difference. So I’m the tallest on my dads side but the shortest on my moms and really didn’t give much thought towards my height, I’ve dated woman both shorter and taller than myself and found that it’s often shorter woman that care more about height (in my personal experience) and it does feel bad when people use your height against you but I think it’s important to take that as a mark against their character rather than say anything about you. You can’t control what people are attracted to and if someone treats you poorly because of your height they aren’t someone who was worth your time to begin with.
Probably because being short as a women is also seen as bad, all of the models and most beautiful women out there tend to be on the taller side, so I imagine they are trying to ensure their children can be taller.
At least, that's what I imagine, I'm 160 cm ( I think that's 5"2') but I never cared about height, I actually like people closer in height to me because it's just convenient, don't have to look up on be directly looking at their stomach or chest.
@bluester7177 Outside of models who else discriminates against women for being short? most women are relatively short and most men love shorter women
Very timely video. I've grown up my entire life never considering height as a trait to judge myself based on. My height is also pretty average for my country and sex. However in recent times I've started to be more insecure about it, and I've also started to compare my height with people I see on the street and wishing I was taller. Before I was insecure about my height I was insecure about other things though, so maybe it's just natural to be insecure about some aspects of yourself as if it's something that happens automatically.
It's pretty normal to have insecurities but I so think social media and how much we tend to focus on it and the opinions people tend to have, isn't helping anyone.
@@bluester7177 social media is unironically how I even got the idea for that
I think a big misunderstanding is that most short people (like me 170cm) don't want to be taller to just for the sake of being taller, more atrractive, bigger etc. It obviously has more to do with the things that come with height, like easy respect and dating succes. I for one don't care at all about being a head shorter than ppl on the street, but i DO want a partner and to feel loved which seems to never happen in big part cause of my height.
@terroristswin3461 I think its a serious disadvantage and I agree the obsession is insane. But then again I do know ppl my stature that have girlfriends so its no impossible either
@terroristswin3461 if you think it's all gaslighting you're insane.
Guys. 170 cm is not small. Me (girl) and my friends ahve never ever even talked about not dating someone because he being short. Seriously: you are very probably convincing yourself about it by repeating this concept between you guys. For sure there are superficial women looking at heigh (as much as there are men obsessing over girls' weight), but...are you sure you want actually be with such a person? One of the most attractive guys I know is undes 160cm, but he is carismatic, creative, does sport and that is what is cool about him! Try to focus on the unique and nice parts of you personality and you passions! That's the game changer, for you and others! This "height" problem is just as big as you yourself make it!
I'm sure there are women that care less, yeah. They're just rare that's all. Also not explicitly saying it doesn't mean it's not true. I have a ton of girl-friends but they never see me as more (which is fine if i just like them as people) but then when they're crazy about a guy he's nearly always tall. Guess that's just supposed to be a coincidence... j@@val_wildling767
@@0mnislasher1it is. I've seen ridiculous comments about short guys. Especially in reddit or any dating channel. It's always the shortest guy being made fun
As always, such a great video. I think people who go in for this specific surgery don't understand quite the toll it takes on the body, and the years of work that come attached to having a bone broken and separated over time. I also think they understimate the pain: you cannot anesthetize bones. You can anesthetize flesh up to the bone but anyone who's had a bone marrow biopsy or a bone marrow donation/transplant proceedure will tell you, the pain is very intense, and it sticks for a while. I understand feeling like you're not "good enough"; but let me tell you that you are a valued person, you are more than what you look like. I know some women are brutal, but try and find the good ones that will love you for who you are, and not for how you look like.
I've always thought about and wondered whether or not our bones could feel anything at all.
After reading your comment I can confidently say that my questions were answered and a new fear has awoken inside me.
@@fresanegra77 Oh, haha, I'm sorry. Yeah, bones have a lot of nerve endings on them so they are sensitive; not like your fingers and lips. I don't know how much difference there is between long and trabecular bones in terms of pain, but I assume it is equally unpleasant.
@@lilpixie25 oh don't worry, I'm actually thankful for the information (even if it made me cringe real hard at the thought of going through it) and besides, it's really interesting to know
This comment is so out of touch it’s crazy. “Just love yourself” and “the right one will find you” is the most tired advice. Height is a factor in every arena of life, not just your love life. I’m fine with my height, but there’s guys who are just dealt an incredibly bad genetic hand, and it’s absolutely folly to suggest they shouldn’t try to make their existence the best it can be. If they do their due research and decide the benefits outweigh the risks for them then all power to them. The world is built by people who are unreasonable and unyielding
@@zyzzsdisciples6707 Absolute bollocks, as well as hilarious that you think it's out of touch. But to be expected from someone with an unironic gigachad pfp.
You are most certainly my favourite youtube doctor, this one was a banger, from a short king to another.
edit post note: sometimes I applaud after videos, this was one of them
this is just... sad. as a woman, i do tend to go for taller men - but only because i'm 5'9, lol. and even then, i only really want a minimal height difference (my ex boyfriend was 5'11). really short women with an exclusive preference for taller men will always confuse me, though... the height difference in most straight couples is just comical most of the time
Agree. How some 5'2 women think they look good next to a 6'3 man is beyond me. I alwys assume daddy issues. 5'2 would look good next to 5'7. Hell, even a 5'7 man and 5'9 woman would look better then having huge height gaps. I'm a gay dude and don't understand the appeal of looking like a toddler next to someone.
@@jamiemohan2049 exactly! also, i feel like it unnecessarily complicates some things as well. two friends of mine are in a relationship, they have a pretty significant height gap, and it’s always very funny seeing how much he has to lean down to kiss her lmao
Exactly because you're a reasonable person with common sense. Being attracted to height in a man is normal and logical, especially if you're tall yourself. But these unreasonable requirements are ridiculous. Its like nowadays if you're not 6ft tall then you're not a real man. And the fact that this sentiment is spreading amongst women is what is worrying for men. Its like, so only 20% of us deserve love? My step mom is like 5 ft maybe 5ft 1 and she said she hates short men and she wished they would all die 😂 then she looked at me and was like "you're lucky you're pretty" like wtf to think those thoughts in your head is already fucked. But to verbalize that to a short man is so mean 😂 she literally felt good about saying that shit to me. women need to start checking other women about this sort of thing because if I responded negatively then I'd be " a short man with a napoleon complex" for simply standing up for myself. And that step mom story is like the 12th worst thing a woman has said to me about height😂 and I'm 5'9 too its not like I'm abnormally short either these women DO NOT CARE😂
"threw one child into the ceiling, threw the other child through the window"
"Keeps asking for that. we tried it once, it aint happening again"
"Deliberately appears naked in background of my work video calls"
you're lucky with your wife, never forget it haha
Thanks for blessing us with your contribution to fixing the lack of Skee-Lo in our lives - and the (as always) fab educational, yet entertaining content, of course!
As for tats, what about a true to life imaging of your heart above where it is? ❤
I'm 5 feet tall. Being the shortest person around has made it literally impossible not to have ever "cared" or noticed that I'm below average.
Still, i like it. I don't understand why other men feel so bad for being "short" or that it impairs them in some way... In the end it doesn't, not mobility-wise nor romantically. It's just a trait to blame your guilt on
Rohin, how do you keep doing it. I'm laughing hysterically while being educated and made to think about (new) things in different ways.
Really appreciate how much effort you put into your videos. I watch them all at least twice
Great video, been loving your channel since 2019. Nice combo of humour and education, thanks for the effort !
The tattoo you should get is definitely "Don't forget about my 5 millimetres" btw
I usually skip the sponsor bits at the end, but that was some incredible planning that went into that.
Alternatively you recorded that segment like 10 times at the various stages of beard
In 1981 I had two major back surgeries as a kid. There was a girl on my ward that had one leg shorter than the other. They had this contraption in that they would wind daily to me lengthen it.
I’m 158cm and I have thought about that for a while.
Honestly from the ftm perspective I can resonate with shorter men. After transitioning guys my height or shorter than me became more noticeable; not in a bad way, rather that society shames being short so often that you forget those men really do exist. Always helps having a reminder that there are “normal” men around my height. Although I wish they weren’t shamed into wanting to alter their size I understand how discrimination might pressure them into seeking that treatment. I really do question how much of it is due to that rejection? Gender affirming surgery is more popular in cisgender patients and of course i’d never say it’s wrong as a trans individual. But undoubtedly the commodification of cosmetic surgery doesn’t help insecure and dysmorphic people, especially potentially dangerous procedures like BBL’s being pushed constantly. Either way I loved your breakdown of this topic and really appreciated the respect given, very hard to come by these days.
I totally agree. I hate BBLs, breast implants, lip fillers, botox, etc. I understand why people get them, to some extent, but the way they're being pushed is absurd.
It's even more ridiculous imo when the surgery isn't to do with something unchangeable naturally. Like, any girl can have a nice ass if she puts in the work, but some people want the easy way out, I guess.
@@yaboiavery5986 yess definitely agree. I wouldn’t care as much if the bbl wasn’t such a commonly fatal surgery due to it being located near an artery. that + getting it done in a strip mall is insane to me
@@tuperduper1489 yeah man, just to me, someone getting something like a bbl says alot about their personality. It might mean that they aren't willing to put work in, that they aren't confident, etc
@@tuperduper1489 fun fact Kanye's mom died due to some cosmetic surgery, I think it was a tummy tuck or something
Short men really are invisible huh. jfl
Tattoo suggestion: that staff with two snakes winding around it so that when people point it out and go “oh haha because you’re a doctor!” you get to launch into an explanation that it isn’t actually a symbol of medicine but gets used all the time by accident
Hermes?
2-snake caduceus isn't medical, 1-snake rod of asclepius is
@@EvMund yep, that’s the joke!
"9 millimetres in schools" Curse you, Metlife. By a superhuman effort, my keyboard survived, but I nearly died of the choking fit that followed.
As a 5'2'' (157 cm) guy I must say that effecttively height is something that I was really concerned about for most of my youth. It is hard (not impossible) to achieve some kind of success when all your dates are taller than you. Even an extreme procedure like the surgery (which I obviously can not afford because, well, third world) could not make me grow tall enough to have any chances. So eventually I left the idea behind and accepted my fate as the forever alone uncle. It's not nice but it's a living, I guess.
just retire in southeast Asia
I think you can safely (not without some trades off obviously) extend your legs up to 15cm though, so it is possible to become average height
its over
I know a ton of guys in my parent's congregation that are 5'2 and married.....mostly to girls that are 5'0 or 4'11. They are older but not ancient. If anything it seems that women aren't willing to deal with all the bs men bring to a relationship unless he has something to make up for it, like is a really good cook or is super into volunteerism. I got one of my besties married off by having him volunteer at a animal shelter
@@hulahula6182my Dads 5’2-5’4 and his very well respected, 9 kids wealthy etc.
I don’t know what to say… I’ve been suffering from severe mental health issues some of which have to do with how uncomfortable being 196cm tall makes me. But I have to admit, by comparing cosmetic surgery to gender-affirming care, you really opened my eyes. Saying that someone is hurting themselves by undergoing these procedures sounds eerily similar to statements that gender affirming care is mutilation. I definitely will be much less critical of people who have underwent cosmetic procedures. However the fact that „sex changes” aren’t being advertised on TikTok while butt lifts are suggests that cosmetic medicine has been overcommercialised. I think that requiring a psychological evaluation for more invasive procedures, as is common with HRT for example could be a useful tool in providing care to those who really need it.
With all the surgeries and conditions you mentioned, I think the truth is complicated and personal. There are many types of pain, both physical and mental, and different people handle them differently.
I can somewhat relate to your situation - I'm "only" 190cm and got made fun of in grade school for my height. While I'm not bothered by it today, I wouldn't mind losing a few cm.
I struggle with some very different mental issues, and for me the best help was realizing that happiness is a state of mind. It's not perfect, but I'm still here. Good luck to you.
Although I agree with you in general, psych evaluation won't fix the problem. Because psychology and psychiatry are broken and built on broken principles from the start. Misogyny and transphobia aren't just baked into the system, they are the cornerstones of it. So same as I, a trans person, don't want some cishet boomer with conservative biases to assess whether I'm trans enough, I wouldn't want a cis person to go through the same BS to get access to plastic surgery. Which creates a very uncomfortable situation: on one hand, we have cases like Michael Jackson's, where it's pretty obvious he needed therapy, not surgery, but on the other hand, the entirety of psychological and psychiatric fields just can't be trusted.
I think there definitely has to be some sort of informed consent model for cosmetic surgery, but I think it’s not incorrect to say that gender affirming care is pretty different from cosmetic surgery. The rates of regret for transition are astoundingly low compared to cosmetic surgery.
Also, as I progress in this video and hear more about surgeries targeting trans women like the clavicle shortening, I have to say my impression within the transgender community has been that these are exceedingly dangerous, not necessary, and regarded as preying on trans women’s dysphoria.
@@pixiel1xieTransition surgeries are much less common, though.
Agreed. By far the mos concerning element of this is the fact that it's being marketed by people who ought to be medical professionals. It's the same as full-body scans, or homeopathic placebos; it's a solution profiting off of augmenting a problem.
19:37 Tattoo idea: The stereotypical tattoo of a heart with your partners name, but with a frighteningly medically accurate depiction of the heart instead.
I’ve never had issue getting dates due to being 5”7.
Actually, in the last 4 years I have noticed it’s become a thing on dating apps and stuff, but if all they care about is you being two to five inches shorter than what they think you should be, they’re not worth it.
Love yourself and accept yourself, and when someone gets like that, you don’t need to let it even penetrate your shell.