Well, you see, the thing is, they get to have the parts they like, because those are the parts that they heard from in church. Paul says that the parts they don't like actually don't matter, because Jesus died, except he didn't, or something. Matthew says he did all the prophecy thingies, so that proves it!
I looooove how you are so calm and just RUTHLESS in your refusal to allow these goofy xtians to pivot or dodge your VERY SIMPLE and straightforward questions 😂 it’s just wonderful, and I think you are wonderful
@ you are so welcome. I have never been able to listen to debates because they are so cringe with the atheist losing their cool or letting the xtian get away with their word salads and gish galloping. You don’t do that and it is so refreshing! Keep up the great work!
@@SaintD382 yeah agreed, though I think Matt has been doing this for too long and may just be worn out and over it. That’s how he comes across to me anyway. I think he cares A LOT about truth and it’s gotta be so frustrating to encounter the same tired Christian talking points allll the time
You fail to realize these ppl don’t just “spring up” from nowhere. I’d bet cold hard cash that 95% of his relatives are just as, if not more, wacked than he is.
Hearing a person try to defend a pose God killing innocent women because they didn’t bleed is disgusting and gross. Why can’t these people just say yeah that’s kind of screwed up man. They just can’t be honest with themselves.
I love how this guy rolled in thinking that his position wasn't going to be proven wrong and then immediately got shut down after the very first talking point and became defensive like they always do.
They read it they just glass over 90% of it. What % of it is covered in church sermons a year, in all the churches in the country I bet it averages the same 10-15%. Over and over, year after year. The teaching of the festivals take up lots of the year and focus on the same readings.
His argument that all other cultures has slavery only shows that his god is no different than all those other gods. And if this god is no different than all those other gods you dont believe, why special plead for this one?
Dude is arguing humanity and can’t see that these books, laws, and stories are written by humans. He is making the argument that it is man made without even understanding his own argument.
About halfway through the conversation, you find yourself wondering just who the hell helps this person get dressed in the morning. Surely, he isn't left to try to care for himself.
Nate is so mindlessly dependent on his holy debating script that he has totally lost the ability for observation, logic, and analysis. "Hey Nate, what time is it?". Nate- "Oranges are bigger than cars.".
This is just sad. Armed with only a _very_ rudimentary understanding of the rules they have followed for their entire lives, they come on here and get cooked like Ezekiels Bread. Having to face a non believer with a much greater understanding and breadth of knowledge than themselves must suck. Maybe they could try reading the book they confidently claim to know for starters. Sheesh
Just goes to show that not only is YHWH ignorant of female anatomy but so is Nate! Wow, 2024 and there are still people this ignorant about simple biology!!!
You nailed it... They refuse to be honest... Malachi 3:6 supposedly God doesn't change... Anytime I've literally showed scriptures ( just as you did) they lash out and behave crazy.
People that think this guy is fake, or being a troll haven't lived in Oklahoma. This behavior is very real. I'm surrounded by this at work. I can literally have them look at scriptures on their phones and they say they don't believe it. They just listen to Joyce Meyer, Jimmy Swagger, Billy Graham and never have read the bible.
The sad thing is I truly believe Nate thinks he "won" the argument. Nate, you said absolutely nothing, made no coherent points, and supported slavery. You represent all that is wrong with organized religion. Wake up!
We eat oysters, mussels among other shellfish straight out of the North sea no "purifying" needed. And I am pretty sure the water was much less poluted back then. 😉✌
This guy keeps on about what civilizations believed, what societies were doing, people "back then", and we do other things today. None of that matters. These were god's LAWS, for time immemorial. They were for ALL civilizations, societies and people at any time, for all time. THE LAWS OF GOD! What you believe does not change the laws of god. This dude argues against the bible as it is being read to him.
Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven
You can't judge the past with the knowledge of the future. For example you can't blame your 13 year old self for not knowing what you know at 50 years.
People wonder why new atheists like Alex O Connor and Joseph Schmidt are all nice and soft spoken , whereas the likes of Dawkins, Dillahunty are seen as impatient, angry... It is because of decades of dealing with idiots like Nate who cannot read to save their lives but are supremely confident in their convictions, and dominate every argument by being the loudest voice . Alex and Joe, due to being prevalent in the age of podcasting, have the privilege of dealing with more erudite and patient Christians , whereas people like Dawkins and Dillahunty have spent years beating their heads against the wall of religious ignorance , and people like Nate wear you out.
11:10 Here's the funny thing though, those 600 plus rules Nate was talking about, happened AFTER the 10 commandments. In fact Jesus specifically clarified this when he blamed the Pharisees themselves for adding on to the rules in his "tie up heavy burdens on the backs of others" line. The 10 Commandments are, as far as it is known in scripture, the first set of "written law" that the Hebrews received allegedly from God.
And people trying to make Jesus into a get out of jail, free card and insinuate he erased the whole Old Testament of the bad stuff that he supposedly did because he’s God is like talking to a delusional child. And if you were talking to a child and they talked like this you would considera child psychologist.
What has ancient times to do with following god. If god demanded something then he demanded it forever. If Christians now say things are different now then they are not actual biblical Christians but sudo Christians. Cherry picking at its finest. If they know these things are wrong then they accept god is evil
Believer: We know that Deuteronomy doesn’t sound good so we give credit more in NT. So then, why can’t ask NT god: Why did you allowed in OT to refer about you?😅
@@jacketrussell It's related to killing. They're trying to censor anything remotely related to killing. They also force you to say "pew pew" instead of "shoot" or "gun", which is the dumbest euphemism I've ever heard.
@@Deconstruction_ZoneProducts of evolution: A brain, fright, fight, flight, socialization, gathering, division of labor, etc. And from this, a God was created.
These people are so daft and dishonest. You give them word for word the bible they claim to follow and they argue intent
Why do Christians want to put the Ten Commandments in class rooms then say the Old Testament does not matter?
Magic!
Because they don't know where they come from or what they say !
Well, you see, the thing is, they get to have the parts they like, because those are the parts that they heard from in church. Paul says that the parts they don't like actually don't matter, because Jesus died, except he didn't, or something. Matthew says he did all the prophecy thingies, so that proves it!
@@1eviledy. Yep. That caller was David Cooperfield in disguise
Why not just teach the 10 commandments to their own offspring[like the Bible says].?
That guy is ONLY 34!?!? He sounds like he's 70! He's definitely not helping with the southern evangelical intelligence stereotype.
I’ll tell you whuuut.
I spoke to the Lord last night and He showed me that Nate’s Momma is also his sister.
“Hi I’m calling to shift the burden of proof”
Calling to shift burden,
WHY?
Cause I got nothing, absolutely nothing. I can't defend this BS.
Hillbilly helium is hilarious 🤣
😂
I looooove how you are so calm and just RUTHLESS in your refusal to allow these goofy xtians to pivot or dodge your VERY SIMPLE and straightforward questions 😂 it’s just wonderful, and I think you are wonderful
Thank you friend 🫶🫶
@ you are so welcome. I have never been able to listen to debates because they are so cringe with the atheist losing their cool or letting the xtian get away with their word salads and gish galloping. You don’t do that and it is so refreshing! Keep up the great work!
@@amygrowls When you said "atheist losing their cool" I instantly thought of Matt Dillahunty.😬
@@SaintD382 yeah agreed, though I think Matt has been doing this for too long and may just be worn out and over it. That’s how he comes across to me anyway. I think he cares A LOT about truth and it’s gotta be so frustrating to encounter the same tired Christian talking points allll the time
Pretty sure that the caller is Louisiana Congressman Kennedy.
I was thinking redneck Katt Williams. Lol
😂
Senator
@@stevansf
FYI Congressman is a term that encompasses both senators and representatives. Congress is comprised of both the House and the Senate.
Sure sounds like him.
This guest must be a failed standup comedian
Apologists: “words don’t mean words”
Can you imagine having that dude at family gatherings with his complete lack of impulse control?
You fail to realize these ppl don’t just “spring up” from nowhere. I’d bet cold hard cash that 95% of his relatives are just as, if not more, wacked than he is.
Immideatly shifting the burden of proof. That's gotta be a record.
These people are insufferably disingenuous.
and that is what makes them so dangerousllll
😂😂 Dude sounded like a methed out Yt version of Katt Williams.....🤣🤣
Doo,an,dood dood dood dooo....AAAHHHH!
Lol....that's what it is! I knew he sounded familiar. 😂😂😂
"Why don't you prove My Invisible Sky Daddy does NOT exist ?"
lolz
Hearing a person try to defend a pose God killing innocent women because they didn’t bleed is disgusting and gross. Why can’t these people just say yeah that’s kind of screwed up man. They just can’t be honest with themselves.
Because being honest would uproot his entire world.
Well they will admit it's screwed up, however there is always a "BUT".
@ yup there is always a but….
I love how this guy rolled in thinking that his position wasn't going to be proven wrong and then immediately got shut down after the very first talking point and became defensive like they always do.
I'm wondering with his reasoning and logic how can he even safely cross a road...
And no one of these so called believers have ever read their own holy book..
They haven't read anything .
They read it they just glass over 90% of it. What % of it is covered in church sermons a year, in all the churches in the country I bet it averages the same 10-15%. Over and over, year after year. The teaching of the festivals take up lots of the year and focus on the same readings.
His argument that all other cultures has slavery only shows that his god is no different than all those other gods. And if this god is no different than all those other gods you dont believe, why special plead for this one?
Oh my god! As former believer of this book I wonder “what mind and heart” I HAD while reading Deuteronomy😅
I’ve said it before and I say it again people like Nate can vote
Worse --- they can breed.
That's how we got Trump.
Rattles on about following the Ten Commandments and then blatantly lies aka bearing false witness 🤦♂️
Thou shall not kill, yet people eating animals
Big W for laying the pipe 😂. That had me ngl
They say they reject the first testament but would never reject the god of adam, abraham, noah and moses...
That’s so pathetic those days to be lead by sicko’s
that believed they’d
be cursed otherwise!”
Dude is arguing humanity and can’t see that these books, laws, and stories are written by humans. He is making the argument that it is man made without even understanding his own argument.
Serving up that cheese because he’s bringing the whine.
Goodness this caller is toe curlingly embarrassing.
This guy is a troll. Not his real voice
No, they can really be this dumb and uninformed, almost a requirement.
Yeah, I thought this guy might have been a Poe, but it's also quite possible that he was really that stupid.
This guy definitely learned science from Kent Hovind home school courses.
About halfway through the conversation, you find yourself wondering just who the hell helps this person get dressed in the morning. Surely, he isn't left to try to care for himself.
If you've ever studied the bible and talk to someone that hasn't but believes the crap from the pulpits, you'll see that they're all like that.
Man that mute button is like Milgram Experiment. Are you smiling as hard as Bill Murry was in Ghost Busters everytime he hit that button lol..
I think he was a troll but this call had me laughing so hard. "NOE NOE NOE NOE NOE!!!" 😂
Nate got his own birthday wrong, he was born in the Iron Age.
Nate is so mindlessly dependent on his holy debating script that he has totally lost the ability for observation, logic, and analysis. "Hey Nate, what time is it?". Nate- "Oranges are bigger than cars.".
Please send this guy a Bible For Dummies
This is just sad. Armed with only a _very_ rudimentary understanding of the rules they have followed for their entire lives, they come on here and get cooked like Ezekiels Bread. Having to face a non believer with a much greater understanding and breadth of knowledge than themselves must suck. Maybe they could try reading the book they confidently claim to know for starters. Sheesh
Just goes to show that not only is YHWH ignorant of female anatomy but so is Nate! Wow, 2024 and there are still people this ignorant about simple biology!!!
What!? A believer of this book is saying God (the Supreme Author of His book) didn’t command it😂This believer must read that scripture 100x
You nailed it... They refuse to be honest... Malachi 3:6 supposedly God doesn't change... Anytime I've literally showed scriptures ( just as you did) they lash out and behave crazy.
It's all they got. So few tools in the toolbox. 😂
This Nate does not represent all Nates.
But he _does_ represent 11% of Nates, according to studies...and that's disturbing.
@SaintD382 I agree. That's far too many nates.
Uffff... you know "a face for radio"? Well sorry but that was a voice for sign language :-P
😆
Ed Bassmaster's new character is wild.
"Would you look at that. Just look at that."
😆😆😆
People that think this guy is fake, or being a troll haven't lived in Oklahoma. This behavior is very real. I'm surrounded by this at work. I can literally have them look at scriptures on their phones and they say they don't believe it. They just listen to Joyce Meyer, Jimmy Swagger, Billy Graham and never have read the bible.
Doug won't change his mind.
what mind?
@@desireedebellis6766 His hardcore mind
This can’t be a real caller.
I'm sooo damn glad I can think for myself. Religion is poison.
The sad thing is I truly believe Nate thinks he "won" the argument. Nate, you said absolutely nothing, made no coherent points, and supported slavery. You represent all that is wrong with organized religion. Wake up!
We eat oysters, mussels among other shellfish straight out of the North sea no "purifying" needed.
And I am pretty sure the water was much less poluted back then. 😉✌
This is not sinking in.
666
This can't be real, you guys are paying him to sound stupid aren't you.
😂... I live in Oklahoma and there's a lot of that out here. I'm surrounded by these people at work and not a single one has read the entire Bible 😂
I'm afraid this guy's education or lack of is all his own. This is why they want to keep you stupid.
How about:
Jesus never says he is God.
Jesus never says to pray to jesus
This guy keeps on about what civilizations believed, what societies were doing, people "back then", and we do other things today. None of that matters. These were god's LAWS, for time immemorial. They were for ALL civilizations, societies and people at any time, for all time. THE LAWS OF GOD! What you believe does not change the laws of god. This dude argues against the bible as it is being read to him.
The Dunning Kruger effect is strong with this one
Time and time again they believe in Jesus, but in none of the things he himself would have believed in🙃🫣
Beverly Leslie is quite entertaining.
1, 666, this is a fun game. Give me another number!
That might be one of the most insufferable callers ever…the voice and the petulance…sheesh.
I know theists are delusional but the majority of these callers are honestly certifiable and need serious deconversion therapy
Didn’t Jesus say “to obey ALL the commandments”?
Take the OT away and all the commandments and the Original Sin eliminating Jesus….right?
Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven
@ appreciate what you and the crew does daily and great to watch you on AXP. Learnt a lot listening.
He thinks hes being so gracious to you😂
666, nate is a zealot and not educated
You can't judge the past with the knowledge of the future. For example you can't blame your 13 year old self for not knowing what you know at 50 years.
Not only Nate not work technology Nate cannot use reasonability
How does he not know he’s totally defensive and full of it. He even reversed himself 4 times on some questions.
He's incredibly defensive.
Wow.
I do hope nathan was just pulling your leg. How could anyone be that stupid?
My favorite so far. Hoo- raw.... this brings a whole new meaning to CHERRY PICKING 😂
The nose knows when the eyes can't see, I can't see my nose.
What a whiner
Muslims in the Old Testament 😂😂😂great
People wonder why new atheists like Alex O Connor and Joseph Schmidt are all nice and soft spoken , whereas the likes of Dawkins, Dillahunty are seen as impatient, angry... It is because of decades of dealing with idiots like Nate who cannot read to save their lives but are supremely confident in their convictions, and dominate every argument by being the loudest voice . Alex and Joe, due to being prevalent in the age of podcasting, have the privilege of dealing with more erudite and patient Christians , whereas people like Dawkins and Dillahunty have spent years beating their heads against the wall of religious ignorance , and people like Nate wear you out.
he called you satanists 🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀
Mr Least In The Kingdom, you know the 10 commandments, the laws in the Old Testament you still follow, says not to lie!
To be fair he did say the other laws were before the 10 Commandments. Everything else he said was utter insanity though
This guy has to be a troll.
His accent is way over the top and he seems to be intentionally ignoring what the hosts are saying.
Has to be a prank call? People actually speak like that?
Yes. I’ll tell you whuuut.
This is a troll job for sure.
No they really are this thick and ignorant. Warning they vote and breed.
Pretty sure you mentioned the 10 commandments first he was originally talking about the other laws like mixed fabric and shellfish
nope. all the OT laws include that and the 10 commandments. he's just tryna pick and choose
This caller sounds like Punk Apostate. @PunkApostate
Nate needs to read Proverbs 12:22.
11:10 Here's the funny thing though, those 600 plus rules Nate was talking about, happened AFTER the 10 commandments. In fact Jesus specifically clarified this when he blamed the Pharisees themselves for adding on to the rules in his "tie up heavy burdens on the backs of others" line.
The 10 Commandments are, as far as it is known in scripture, the first set of "written law" that the Hebrews received allegedly from God.
And people trying to make Jesus into a get out of jail, free card and insinuate he erased the whole Old Testament of the bad stuff that he supposedly did because he’s God is like talking to a delusional child. And if you were talking to a child and they talked like this you would considera child psychologist.
1 but I am a dude 😂
Where do you find these people? :)
What has ancient times to do with following god. If god demanded something then he demanded it forever. If Christians now say things are different now then they are not actual biblical Christians but sudo Christians. Cherry picking at its finest. If they know these things are wrong then they accept god is evil
Believer: We know that Deuteronomy doesn’t sound good so we give credit more in NT. So then, why can’t ask NT god: Why did you allowed in OT to refer about you?😅
so what happened to hanji?
She's no longer on the show. She's still on TikTok and Instagram. Go check her out
Lol justin got scolded. Really love your content, glad to see you growing quick
Thank you friend!!
Omg this guy is lost
What's with saying 'unalive' instead of dead?
TikTok uses AI to monitor lives. Anything that sounds even remotely hostile will get you banned.
@Deconstruction_Zone
How does 'dead' sound hostile?
@@jacketrussell It's related to killing. They're trying to censor anything remotely related to killing. They also force you to say "pew pew" instead of "shoot" or "gun", which is the dumbest euphemism I've ever heard.
Evolution explains the need for a God. Not the other way around.
False in every way
@@Deconstruction_ZoneProducts of evolution: A brain, fright, fight, flight, socialization, gathering, division of labor, etc. And from this, a God was created.
Im dyin😂
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinion. proverbs 18:2 NIV.....who is this airing his own opinion?
Harry Potter 3:16
"Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinion."
That describes Nate to a tee.
Nate is writing his own book. And Jesus didn’t sacrifice anything. He had a bad day and a half and then he was god again.
Gawd he had an annoying voice.
This nails-on-the-chalkboard accent is what happens when you pull English in all the wrong directions.
it matches his IQ
Pics or it didn't happen.
This caller can't be real -- not with that cartoonish voice. He's a troll, right?