I just crocheted a blanket. It took forever, I spent well over $100 on materials, and it's not perfect. But it was fun (and a little frustrating) to make. It wasn't just about the blanket, a lot of the joy comes from the actual crocheting.
I think the difference is in the skills required to learn. Buying super expensive equipment doesn’t make you a pro in any hobby. Indeed, the actual hobbyists loathe the new guys with all the expensive toys. Crocheting is relatively cheap in tools and materials, but expensive in time and motivation to learn something difficult. That’s why it commands more respect than brewing coffee the fancy way.
I wish I could get a taste of his coffee, that looks amazing. The smoothness of the coffee as it’s poured into the mug/cup. The glint of light and clearness almost the color of brown sea glass.
Right. Even trying to point to video games. We all know there are normal gamers and then there are pretentious gamers. You can do a hobby without making it pretentious.
@@Faint366 Which is his point. How can you call this pretentious and completely miss the point. He enjoys doing it this way. As long as he's not judging you and your coffee then it's not pretentious.
@@kingcam0775 I’m explaining why people are calling coffee snobs pretentious. It’s not just because they spend money on themselves, it’s because they go out and tell everyone else “you’re doing it wrong” for wanting normal coffee. Can you fucking read?
@@kingcam0775that isnt his point. Hes saying that people that are calling it pretentious are missing the point, when in reality, people shaming others due to "inadequate" brewing styles is as pretentious as it gets, and that happens all the time. This guy might have a hobby, but that doesnt mean that so many others only see it as a way to brag about their wealth and flaunt their fanciness
I think it’s cool to be a bit nerdy/overly into the detail and craftsmanship of certain things. Like how some guys like watches or train sets, and other things along that same line. I got my first cheap watch and had to fix something on it recently, and taking time to make the adjustments while trying to be careful as possible was rather fun. Even though I wouldn’t consider myself a watch snob at all, I instantly understood after that hour of working, and had that feeling of “Oh, this is why people love this.” Same thing like how people are really into wine, hand crafted figurines/vases, bonsai trees, or even super specific things like carved wooden spoons. I think the people that scoff at such hobbies just want everything done quick, which is understandable on a tight schedule. However, it’s nice to slow down sometimes.
"And?" I" had to turn on my pocket blackhole and Dyson sphere, so I could run all of my machines (30 hours of naming machines) and my machine that atomizes the coffee and shoots it at just the right angle to make the coffee taste like the most perfect thing ever." "I just want to go home, you're fine, I won't put this on you record *weak crying*"
that one sucked, rethink that one. lightning rod makes no sense in this. not to mention that you messed up the first line, needs comma and theres no explanation of “cup.” cup of coffee is better, not just “cup.”
We place the lightning rod below an unrosted cup of bean. We then open the operator hand book and cast “lightning bolt”. Now that the beans are roasted we can now begin grounding them
I love how the siphon pot literally looks like a science major needed to make coffee in chemistry class with all the random equipment. I’m not even a coffee snob and it looks badass.
And then you find out that the real cherry on top is the fact, that the little chain is getting heated by the burner and you got black soot in your coffee. Say hello to Alzeimer's later.
The coffee siphon was the precursor to the percolator...that coffee making system was used in the coffee houses of Britain when coffee came to England many, many years ago.....and it makes beautiful smooth drinking coffee!!
@@MCDreng right at the bottom, where the chain touches the glass bottom and where the flame heats the glass. When it si not hooked, the chain is in the tube, but when you hook it, whole chain goes at he bottom like a snake and you burn it. Just watch that black smoke going from the chain up. Enjoy
I think the main problem that people have is that so many people nowadays who do this type of stuff treat others as less than because they don't spend thousands of dollars on their means of making coffee. Same goes for other hobbies too. As long as you're not being a snob about it, I see no problem with it
Well i think the issue is justifying an expensive hobby. Some hobbies are just fun in of itself but brewing coffee with 40 extra steps and lying to yourself that it somehow tastes better seems disingenuous and thats where the pretentious accussations come in. Spending extra time and money for a worse cup of coffee? Thats the height or luxury and waste.
@@rw5622This reeks of insecurity. What use do your hobbies have? How would you know if this coffee is better or worse than anything you have had? It's rather embarrassing to be so close minded.
@@Croptopkinrealistically there's only so much you can do to alter the flavour of a bean beyond doing things directly to it. This video for example it probably doesn't taste different to just using a proper filter or a good cafetiere since at the end of the day the process you're using is boiling. The thing in this video is just using something akin to reflux to make the process look impressive, but the process is exactly the same of boiling water
Same can be the same regardless of hobby. “Oh you play console? Well you should play PC!” “Oh you like movies? Well you should read books!” “Oh you like this? Well you ahould this that” Regardless of what it is people will always bitch
Well, I once did had a search party over because of some other dude with the exact same name as me. Yup - the siphon was on the counter, next to various grinders and implements... fun times
I don't think Coffee enthusiast are pretentious, I just find them annoying when they got angry because I put sugar in my coffee instead of drinking back and with no sweetener
It's not pretentious if you are honest that you do it for the fun of it. It's pretentious when others claim doing the 20 steps makes it somehow superior.
I mean, it's gonna taste better, usually. Same as homemade ramen is gonna taste better than Cup o Noodle. It wouldn't be a hobby if there wasn't a difference. Just don't judge people who aren't into coffee for drinking generic brand bulk coffee
@@cryterion7770 and I said in the very first sentence of my comment that it'll Usually taste better. Usually is not always. Sometimes home cooking tastes bad, sometimes home brewing tastes bad too. But usually it tastes good
@@cryterion7770 okay, and I say it makes a difference. Obviously, the machines would not exist if there was not a difference. I don't go out and buy a 400 dollar airbrush just because I want to spend money, I do it because it makes my painting easier and better looking. He buys an aeropress to make the coffee taste different. And sometimes it doesn't go well. Sometimes you pick the wrong coffee and it tastes worse or the same. A hobby is all about experimentation and honing your craft. He says as much when he points out that it feels like a science experiment. Experiments have results, some good, some bad, some neutral.
@@cryterion7770 but part of the fun IS enjoying the taste. A bit like baking a nice cake, the fun part is eating it… Doesn’t always go 100% right, but when it does, damn. 😅
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People don’t accuse coffee enthusiasts about being pretentious because they enjoy making it, it’s because 99% they are insufferable about their tastes and look down on others for drinking affordable coffee.
I love coffee but also don't care what coffee other people drink. It's something I love and that doesn't have to be the same for everyone. If it tastes good to you and you like it, that's all that matters. All the baristas I've met have been the most down to earth kind people.
I'm a chef so my hobby is kitchen things. I'm pretty sure my knives alone are about 30k. That was the point I realized that I have no room to talk, lol.
"See in my opinion, it's all about the Quinic acid level. You want just the north 4800 milligrams per liter... but if you over-boil to get there, you'll leach their tannins. Bitterness, yuck. So pull a mild vacuum... That way, I can keep the temperature no higher than 92°C and... Judge for yourself." -Gale Boetticher
Pretentiousness isn’t about being nerdy or geeky about a subject, it’s about imposing and judging your idea of the “right way to do something” onto others. The reason many feel that coffee nerds are pretentious is because they have been judged by them. If there isn’t any judgement I think people wouldn’t really care.
You’re 100% on the money. It’s ok to be nerdy/geeky about coffee. But when it has to be this way or you think less of someone then it’s a problem. I don’t care much about coffee but I know there’s different roasts and how they affect caffeine levels (light are more caffeinated and dark cook more out). Also the coffee beans have different profiles and all that. There’s some people who like it distinctly black but also want their beans a certain way. And that’s fine but at the same time if that person is going to judge me because I add milk and sugar then they’re pretentious.
As (once) an alcoholic, I feel like coffee experimenting and brewing as a hobby is just the same as alcoholic mixology but safer. At least it’s not much detrimental to the health compared (stunned height and anxiety vs… everything your brain and muscles do but kinda poisoned) But at the same time, fuck off… “yOuR iRiSh cOfFeE iS oNlY tHreE iNgRedIeNts?” Me, using red wine sometimes in my coffee, the most wrong alcohol for it and might as well be called French coffee: “Yes.”
I think doing this stuff would be fun, but my morning coffee would definitely be from the everyday instant coffee machine. I would get some crazy shit like this out if I knew it was a slow and boring day
I try get up at 4:30 and out of my house by 5:00 when I have the morning shift at work. I don't really like instant coffee but I don't have time for anything else. Sometimes I literally have 5 min cause I am not great at getting up early enough and I barely have time to make myself instant coffee. I love good coffee but I don't have time for anything else and I need coffee to function in the morning
Use It or Lose It But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life. In this way, you will keep yourselves safe in God’s love. -Jude 1:20-21- Some of us treat our faith like a fragile egg. But faith isn’t fragile. Faith is given to us to use, to stretch, to flex, and to develop. And the more we use our faith, the more faith we will have. On the other hand, if we neglect our faith, it will atrophy. In other words, use it or lose it. Faith is like a muscle. The more we use it, the stronger it becomes. The Bible says this about faith: “But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life” (Jude 1:20-21) Notice the emphasis is on faith doing things. Faith is praying, faith is staying, and faith is keeping. Faith is active. God has given us this faith to use, but we don’t use it. Our faith is all show and no go. World changers have an active, not a passive, faith.
Ah yes, the short that somehow started my journey down the coffee rabbit hole. I love this statement a lot still, really. Having gone deep into coffee as a hobby I could not agree more with everything you say here. And not only do I appreciate the coffee I have and make much more these days, it has transferred to a lot of aspects of my cooking, too, where I don't take my ingredients in general for granted and that is a gift, really. Anyway, thank you for getting me into this fantastic and very expensive hobby. I love it.
that's the thing. wine snobs literally pretend like they can taste the region a grape is from, etc. while with coffee these things aren't placebos so there's actually a point to them. As with everything there are dimenishing returns at some point, but spending say, 3k on an espresso set up is actually meaningfully different than spending 200$ on it (while spending 15k won't be much different than spending 3k)
People who drink Gas Station Coffee and starbucks: Normal People who spend thousands of dollars and hours for their coffee: Normal People who frown at the first sight of coffee creamers and paper cups: Pretentious
@@NN-sp9tu Dairy in general is nasty. We're the only beings to drink the milk of another being. Milk that's meant for infants of any being that produces it. Most humans still cannot process dairy or any animal milks beyond adolescence. It used to be all humans, it is for other beings.
@@NN-sp9tucus u only think of international delight and coffeemate creamer. Creamer can be literally just cream, maybe a bit of half and half, and a little vanilla extract.
Over the years, I've used numerous coffee machines, usually to have their heating elements eventually burn out. Then, I acquired a "French press." It was quicker than a drip type coffee maker, produced excellent coffee, but didn't filter out "sludge." Then I got a device that consisted of only a vase-shaped glass container & basket, which fit into its top. It works like a "drip" machine, except the water is poured in manually. Then I had an idea! "Cowboy coffee" consists of dumping the coffee into a pot of boiling water, removing the heat, letting it steep, a little, then pouring off the coffee. I tried that method, but used the basket & filter. The coffee was great! One day I ran out of filters, so I improvised, and used a paper towel, cut to size. The coffee was just as good, but the towel filter was much quicker. I no longer buy coffee filters, but get rolls of paper towels, from Walmart, for $.68 apiece.
Awesome. After having purchased several different types of devices to brew coffee, I've settled on the french press as my preferred method. I believe it produces the best tasting coffee compared to other devices I've used. But, on work days, I settle for drip coffee. It's a compromise between speed and taste. The joy is in the journey.
- ha ha, yes a stainless permanent filter in a pourover (in the past I have improvised with coffee, a paper towel and a kitchen funnel...)- I may prebrew in a pyrex jug (the cowboy coffee element).... A siphon (with stainless steel filter for simplicity) - using atmospheric pressure and a low pressure "suction" chamber, wastes less of the goodness in the soggy grounds.. But there is a little cleanup. (A "butane" burner with a siphon is a lot quicker than a poorly functioning alcohol burner.)
@@kadmow I just had an idea! I'm a CHEMIST! (Actually, my degree's in chemical engineering, but the American Chemical Society says I have a right to the title of "Chemist"). An Erlenmeyer vacuum filtration flask, with a Buckner funnel & filter, and vacuum pump or water aspirator. It would be QUICK, extract every drop of coffee, and remove every microscopic particle of sludge! 🤪
"Man I feel like some coffee right now" "Oh I got some" *pulls out a normal and convenient machine* *The absolute most disgusted and crinkled face in reaction* "that's not real coffee" Is probably why people have this thought.
This is exactly why they're pretentious. Coffee people don't just enjoy the process of making coffee, they look down on everyone who consumes coffee for the utility it provides. It doesn't help that it being so expensive breeds classist attitudes but that's just the piss cherry on the shit pie of how insufferable these people are. When I enjoy video games, I don't look down on people who read books or are still using their 3ds from 2015 because they fundamentally do not care about video games as much as I do, looking down on them for not caring about the process of something they don't care about the outcome of is like trying to dig a trench with a spoon. Coffee people don't just view it as a hobby, they view it as a superior way of consuming the product (similar to PC "master race" people who are equally if not more insufferable than coffee people)
@@HavingCrumpets not at all? I have only seen people make fun of pretentious book readers (aka people who claim to be smarter and more intellectually developed and constantly brag about how many books they read while not actually knowing jackshit about anything) and I have not seen anyone make fun of someone for playing on an outdated device?? that is kind of a weird thing to do
@@VazikliDuokodajust because those are the few instances you’ve seen doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. That’s literally the line, “it doesn’t happen to me, so it’s not true.”
I think you’re missing the forest for the trees. Your personal enjoyment of coffee will never cause someone to call you pretentious. It’s when people in the coffee community belittle the way other people make coffee that turns them off. I’ve literally seen people in the community go “Oh why would you ever use Starbucks coffee beans” or “Oh that machine is a piece of trash” or any number of other ways they’ve made people who aren’t in the hobby or are just getting started feel small. The response to anyone telling you about their setup should be “Oh cool, you should definitely try X, Y or Z though if you get the chance”, not “OMG why do you even bother”
it's fine to tell people that their choices are entry-level or D-grade honestly. if people are comfortable with convenience that's okay but there's always room for improving your game and learning more about the process than "buy k-cup, insert into plastic machine, drink"
@@skritzo so this right here is exactly the take people find condescending. Convenience is not “D grade”, and calling someone’s choice out like that is only ever going to push them away from the hobby. Because that’s all good coffee is - it’s not going to functionally improve your life, it’s just a nice-to-have
@@ItsIntelligentDesign none of your hobbies functionally improve your life, ffs. but as long as you're actively participating in things you find enjoyable and not "faking it till you make it," you should want to hear how you can improve your craft. it saves time at the very least. convenience isn't automatically D grade, you're lumping my two sentences together. but it can be, and I know many people who only drink coffee for the bare minimum purpose of waking up, and some of them are total know-it-alls about coffee while barely engaging with it. they swear by their D-grade methods, and are hostile to any type of pro-tips on how to improve. that's the real condescension: pretending to know what you're talking about and not being open to correction
@@skritzoGeorge "oh your wife bought you (insert model) espresso machine. Man honestly I'm not a fan of that machine if she asked I would have given her tips on a better machine. " Well George that's all we could afford this year my mother has cancer and we had to help with payment. Point of this statement is to highlight that someone may have sentimental value or may not have the money for expensive equipment. It is a exaggeration but the point is still the same. To shame someone based on them enjoying their hobbies with the means they have is goofy especially because that maybe all they can or do have. I'm not saying you're doing this but if you disagree then you ARE doing something at least similar.
Enjoying these kinds of things can be categorized as pretentious by other people, even if you never do anything pretentious. This is the internet, people will hate you for breathing too loud.
The pretentiousness stereotype comes not from the things you mentioned but from them reacting negatively to people liking their coffee some other way, or not caring about their coffees quality as much.
honestly, most people who’re genuinely interested in coffee making will be so happy to tell you all about it with 0 judgement of how you enjoy it yourself. take james hoffman for an example. theres unkind and pretentious ppl everywhere, but it doesn’t mean it’s everyone or even most.
What you refer to as "some people liking their coffee in a different way" it usually is people actively attacking and making fun of coffee enthusiasts because it's 'unnecessary' and they can make 'better' coffee more easily. Just like vegans, I've must have encountered like 2 vegans both on and offline that were obnoxious about it, but I've seen thousands of people complaing about vegans like crazy.
@@durden91tyleryour not wrong but it doesn’t really have an effect on ur body if u only drink a cup a day Sugar can also be considered a drug because it improves ur mood and gives u a little sugar rush (drugs work different on everyone bc everyone’s body is different)
Audiophile stuff is mad I once found some audiophile cables (big aux connector on both sides) and only a few years later did i find out that they were pure gold inside.... ~120 grams of pure gold
@@freesoftwareextremist8119 i got them for $5 out of a cable box at a goodwill, right next to the amp and headphones they belonged to (which was $50 total) I doubt the cable itself actually does anything but with this find, i went from a razer gaming headset to a $12k electroststic setup and boy was there a difference there.
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As a barista, I can totally say coffee drinkers are beyond pretentious. The drinks I've had to make for my customers over the years never cease to amaze me 😅
Can I get a double hazelnut sprinkle mocha frap macchiato with 0.5% milk, yank the foam, 6pH and a shot of ultra nitrogen infused espresso, hold the cream. 😂
@@raihanwinata5329 I've made the grossest things that people INSIST is good, healthy, "only for serious coffee drinkers", etc...and I still have to make it. I've had to dump coffee that's barely 10 minutes old cuz some of my regulars who INSISTS they know what coffee is say that SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY those 10 minutes are TOO late. All these..tastes(?) customers have really end up just leading to waste and it just plain sucks. I honestly REALLY want to get further into coffee and stuff, but then I see my customers and their trendy drinks and I think twice lol. Don't get me wrong though! I love making drinks! I will make a damn good latte given the time, but today's "average" coffee drinker really sucked the fun out of coffee...
What makes people pretentious is saying "you're drinking it wrong". You add some sugar to your cup and someone is **bound** to come up with that. Don't be that person. Be inviting. Share your passion.
True but that does not mean you should group all of them together. Just because some in a community are annoying and pretensious doesn't mean the entire community is
Sugar is disgusting in coffee though. The only coffee I drink is from my keurig and from restaurants, so it's not like I'm drinking fancy coffee anyways. Sugar is just bad in coffee
@@lukasg4807To you and to me. Taste is subjectice, just because we don't like sugar in coffee it doesn't automatically make sugar a bad thing to add to coffee in general.
@@diego032912Exactly, like I find adding sugar to plain coffee is just horrid but some people do it. Personally I think you need at least some milk to bridge that gap. Minimum ratio of 1/3 milk to 2/3 coffee add sugar to taste. If someone does it another way that's their way. It's not wrong. Unless their burning their coffee. Then it's a suggestion not a rant to them.
i had somone cuss me out because i asked if they liked their coffee with sugar creamer or both. their answer was some rant about the delicate process of making "real" coffee and not some "mcdonalds clone garbage"
They're the kinda person that will come to your house and shit talk the coffee you made, explaining in detail why they could do it better Then get confused when they're not invited again
When you say you are a tea person, you mean as in "i buy good quality tea that i brew properly for a better experience" or as in "i follow the 27 steps of the ancient tea ritual of the Tsu dynasty court"?
I never knew coffee could be a hobby. That's pretty cool. Honestly, your explanation makes a lot of this make so much more sense. It's cool how different people enjoy things in their own way. One man's caffeine juice can be another man's fun and meditative process.
@@charlest5604If you don't think coffee is even the slightest bit interesting and you don't want to see a channel about a guy and his hobbie, then just don't watch the video??
if ya got the money and time then i'd say it's at least worth a try. school taught me the concept of an 'open mindset' and it goes a very long way having it.
I usually grind my own beans (mandheling arabica), put em on the cup and pour some hot water, stir and just wait for it to settle. I kid you not my coffee was better than most coffee shop 😅
It becomes pretentious when a person starts trying to describe their particular preferences and methods as "better" and they thumb their nose at anything they see as "lesser". The unfortunate fact is there's a rather high concentration of these people in the "coffee enthusiast" circles.
i mean, his coffee is better. Like a Baker bread is better than a normal person bread, i don't get why do you feel so attacked by someone doing something better than most people. Not that you are wrong for doing it wrong, you are doing it fine, but if someone has a hobby and he know more about a topic than most people, obviously he's gonna make that thing he's good at better
@matteoinvernazzi4331 it's this exact mindset that people are talking about "not that you are wrong for doing it wrong" he's not doing it wrong, he's doing it the way that works for him, which is not doing 20 or more steps for his coffee. It's not about making "better coffee" it's about how coffee snobs act like they are better than you as a person just because of the way they make their coffee.
@@frog1405 i'm probably telling you something you already know, but you are aware that people like what you are describing don't exist in the real world right? Like how many people do you think are out there saying that they are better than someone else because they make a better coffee? Also why are you bringing this point if this is not what we were talking about? obv you are not doing your coffe wrong, 99,9999% of people do the coffee the same way, but at the same time if he spends more time into making a perfect coffee and see it as a passion it will taste better. That's the only point of the video, and i don't even understand how can some people take this as some sort of personal attack like "do you think you are better than me just because you do your coffee better?"
You know, you might just like the stuff you drink or be a connoisseur. Nothing to do with alcoholism. Getting occasionally wasted on a party isn't alcoholism either. Trust me, I know. Tell me you know nothing about alcoholism without telling me you know nothing about alcoholism.
I feel like the type of guys who write “tasting notes” as they sip their extremely expensive single-malt whisky are probably a lot less likely to have a drinking problem than the guys drinking stuff like cheap vodka
Finding the perfect coffee can be a journey, and you might never find it. There's a story about Tom Petty (yes the musician) going in to a diner, and he ordered a coffee. once he started drinking it, he realized that it's the best coffee that he's ever had. He HAD to know how they made it. So he politely asked if he could go back in the kitchen and see exactly how they made it. They showed him an old commercial stainless steel Bunn coffee machine from the 1960's. They showed him that they used a precise amount of coffee and water for each pot. What was the coffee they used? It was none other than just plain ole Maxwell House, in the blue can. Petty immediately got on to ebay and ordered multiple of this exact coffee machine model, Maxwell house and the exact measuring spoons they used. That was HIS perfect coffee. If you find YOUR perfect coffee, that's all that matters, and it might be more simple than you think.
It's true. Some of us have sensitive taste buds and not just any coffee will suffice. It's why I'm not just drinking coffee like water, I actually need to taste and enjoy what I make.
As a fellow coffee nerd, the pretentious label is only applied to people who try to aggressively evangelize their hobby. Very few people are going to spend $4K on a grinder and $6K on an espresso machine. We have to accept the fact that coffee nerds are a small demographic and that's okay. I always try to share my knowledge but don't feel a need to push my coffee fanaticism on others.
yeah it makes you an autist, I bet dollars to doughnuts that a medium mcdonalds double double would walk all over this gravity bong coffee @@jamessantos7241
Spending money is not a hobby. Look, if you're going to spend 10k on your coffee gear, you ARE being pretentious. The least you could do is own up to it. You are spending 3 years worth of labor of a Colombian coffee bean picker on a blender. Drinking that coffee would make me nauseous.
@izayus11 So what your saying is they're spending money on something they enjoy with THEIR own money and your saying their pretenscious? Honestly just get a job and mind your own business
@@singNsong-gc9kt You can spend money on whatever you please. But words still have meaning. Consumerism is not a hobby. Pretentiousness is not always pedantic: when the princess said "let them eat cake", she honestly thought she was sharing meaningful economic policy. People who think drinking coffee counts as a personality will swear that a La Marzocco tastes different than a breville. I mean, sure, as long as you don't think too much on the bean picker who earns 3-5 dollar a day on 100f humid wheather.
This is like calling out a miniature hobbyist for going out and buying several 160$ GW model sets, very nice hobby tools, many different colors of primer, a really good set of art brushes and a whole full color set of paints made for miniatures specifically
Use It or Lose It But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life. In this way, you will keep yourselves safe in God’s love. -Jude 1:20-21- Some of us treat our faith like a fragile egg. But faith isn’t fragile. Faith is given to us to use, to stretch, to flex, and to develop. And the more we use our faith, the more faith we will have. On the other hand, if we neglect our faith, it will atrophy. In other words, use it or lose it. Faith is like a muscle. The more we use it, the stronger it becomes. The Bible says this about faith: “But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life” (Jude 1:20-21) Notice the emphasis is on faith doing things. Faith is praying, faith is staying, and faith is keeping. Faith is active. God has given us this faith to use, but we don’t use it. Our faith is all show and no go. World changers have an active, not a passive, faith.
@@knockoffninjamanager at my second job unironically said that She couldn't actually lift her mug enough to tip it so she just sipped on it until it was halfwat empty
There’s a difference between making fancy coffee because you like making it that way vs telling people they can’t enjoy their morning Dunkin’ on the commute to work
Seeing a lot of people describe this as the creator having an addiction and, as someone who actually has addictions, I wanted to give my thoughts. An addiction is always about a quick fix. It might start slow, but it never ends that way. The more you do it, the quicker you need it. Believe me, if he was just addicted to the caffeine, he wouldn’t be *adding* steps, he’d be subtracting them. It’d go from brewed to canned, just to get it quicker when you feel like you need it. But you know what does actually really help with addictions? Hobbies. It doesn’t honestly matter how stupid anyone else thinks the hobby is- taking time and effort and careful patience in tending to something is such an important part of the human experience. It’s one that’s easy for all of us to forget in a world as fast-paced and money-driven as ours. Stopping to care for something- *anything* can be healing. Especially for addicts. I am not a coffee person. But I understand how he feels, and I’m endeared. It can feel so rewarding to take time and care towards anything in your life. It’s something we all deserve- time and care. For ourselves, for our hobbies. It’s a shame the world as it is has robbed us of our time. But that’s not this silly coffee guy’s fault, even if I do feel a bit of envy. Good for you coffee dude, keep coffee-ing ☕️ 👍
I mean some people spend more than that on a gaming rig. Some people want to pump more money into their hobbies than others. It’s all personal preference.
@@freedomfighter763bro nobody spends over 4,000 on a gaming rig. Its exceedingly rare for that to be the case. Even the biggest tech nerd on the planet is unlikely to drop even half of that amount of money on a computer
@@PrimetimeXpeople with jobs do LMAO A decent 4K monitor with a gaming rig that can do 100+ frames can cost 4 thousand dollars It’s seen as an investment to an activity that brings joy
@@VuiitoI’m sorry if you’re spending 4k on a gaming rig I’d hope to god you get more than 100 fps lmao. I spent 2k 8 years ago and I still run most games at 200+ on the highest settings
This is very true. But ill be honest high quality coffee does taste perfect black. I also love high quality cold brew. (I also drink high sugar supermarket coffee i like every type of coffee 😂)
That is truly a thing of beauty! Even if you didn't use it every day, it's worth having sitting on the counter. You hit the bulls eye! It's not putting pre-ground coffee in the coffee maker preset the night before. It's a Tea Ceremony to start the day every morning.
"For most, coffee is a means to an end, which is to wake up. For others, it's a hobby." Nah, I take it a step further, it's ART. And you know what? I STILL don't need any of that unnecessary machinery. All I need is a Moka pot.
The pretentious aspect comes from those who thinks that the 27 steps is the only way to enjoy coffee and that you do not deserve to claim that you love coffee otherwise. Edit: And even if you do 27 steps, it might not be THEIR 27 steps so you're doing it wrong still.
How many people have you seen actually act like this? Is this a serious problem in the coffee community, or did you just read a couple annoying comments that got downvoted or ratioed?
These types of people give the community a bad name and it’s quite annoying. Whatever method you like wether it be that high end specialty coffee in Colombia with the 39 steps puck prep, or if it be an instant coffee with milk and sugar, the important part is that you enjoy yourself.
I haven't met a single coffee nerd who would get mad that you aren't doing the exact method they do. They generally care more that you are getting to enjoy high quality coffee and mostly give me more recommendations on roasters and specific origins I might want to try.
I love the more advanced ways of brewing coffee because it feels like I'm participating in actual chemical science, but I get the added benefit of something I can ingest at the end without literally or figuratively burning a hole in my stomach. Can't wait to get an espresso machine or something.
I don't know man, I like cooking fancy things and love my steak cooked sous vide, but I won't spit out someone else's steak that isn't cooked this way. I won't berate people for using a teflon pan instead of a cast iron and I will enjoy food cooked whichever way. I feel like many coffee bros would not be capable of this distinction and that's where the accusations of pretentiousness come from.
I agree. Yeah, there are some assholes who will call you pretentious for putting in more than the bare minimum, but that's not how coffee people get a reputation for pretentiousness. It's the shitting on people who don't share the hobby or endlessly pursue perfection that gets me.
@romnickrosario6048 Tried it, liked it, didn't find it dry or chewy. I've also had medium rare and medium well, really not that big a deal to me and I never find myself clamoring for a certain cook.
@@mikewin7056 No, but spending in excess of 4k dollars on coffee equipment then filming yourself using it and posting it for millions to see is very pretentious 🤷🏾♂️ It's like saying "look at me paupers... my equipment is better than yours".
Pretentious definition: attempting to impress by affecting greater importance. Coffee is on of the top sold commodities, a natural product, and has many ways to be brewed to achieve certain flavors. I am a coffee roaster myself, and the reason i love it is due to those many variables. Many tools can help, but to a certain extent it becomes insignificant. Personally, the freshness of the bean is the most important. For the rest, it comes down to: 1.Type of roast 2.Temperature 3.Grind size 4.Water Play with these variables and discover why there are so many things for coffee. Its not needed, but it can help.
As a coffee enthusiast, I get both sides. My go to method is the French press. It takes me 5 minutes to grind and brew and it's ready to drink. The quality is as good as it gets. Coffee enthusiasts love experimenting with equipments because it's more fun that way, with a touch of snobbery. It's not for everyone. It's definitely not practical for a busy person who just want a quick drink. But that's common with a lot of things. Look at PC building nerds, Lego nerds, Fashion nerds, Telescope nerds.
I've never seen a Lego fan go to a child and say "your house looks awful, don't use those stones, have you even heard of advanced building techniques?" I hear with coffee condescenders constantly.
I'm not exactly an enthusiast, though I do the bare minimum and grind my beans myself. I prefer the AeroPress for its simplicity. And yes, I have a pour over set too, and it is fun, but more difficult and the results are no better. My only hope is that people would learn enough about coffee to not need to douse the bitterness with sugar, etc.
I think the issue is less about coffee enthusiasts and more about how people like to gatekeep and feel superior to others in just about anything you can like doing in general. You see it all hobbies and jobs online where people just get kinda rude or nasty about a thing if you aren't at the same level of interest or investment that they are.
Agreed. Quite often I'm at the but of jokes because I turn down the sugary milk coffees, and abstain from office coffee made in a machine not cleaned since 1969.
This is true of pretty much everything people accuse people of being snobs over. Hell saying something is better when it objectively is will get you labeled as a pretentious snob by most people.
@@MarioLuigi0404 It's gotta be insecurity or something, like they think if someone is putting more time and effort than you would into something it must be because they think they're better than you. Do people who disparage others for their coffee habits exist? Yes, but those aren't snobs, those are assholes, and they exist everywhere.
Same honestly, especially weirdly from people with their own issues w being a snop according to their standards so long one's not treating others like theyre lesser than for not liking a thing its fine but now its more people complaining abt how pretentious something is when someone is just enjoying themselves
@@strawberrykitiit's a pretentious and lame hobby. Maybe lame is subjective but it's certainly pretentious by definition and the kid doubled down on this video.
I always asked my previous partner why she spent hours doing her makeup and how much time it seemed like was being wasted by doing it so articulately. She mentioned how it felt no different to her than doing art. I looked at makeup very differently after that and actually always felt happy when seeing her do it. This video was a nice reminder that some people just love the process and I love that for them.
That's interesting, I also like to make art. First I chop up a gram of cocaine and then I accurately spread it onto a mirror in very even elongated portions, sometimes this can take hours but it makes me so happy. Then I just snort that shit
Yup, the funny thing is that the people that automatically make fun of coffee nerds, wine nerds, etc. are actually more pretentious themselves. They are essentially saying “you shouldn’t enjoy that hobby because I personally think it is stupid to be passionate about that”. Being pretentious means you have a feeling of superiority or arrogance over others, just being passionate about a niche subject is *not* pretentiousness at all.
“Hey bro can I get a coffee?”
“Yea sure gimme a minute.”
*Starts doing fucking alchemy*
"Yeah sure, let me squeeze you in on the 14th. I can spare 3hrs then."
😂😂😂
💀
Straight up starts cooking meth
@@ronaid-with-an-ieven better
Coffee makers vs car guys vs tactical guys fighting over who can spend the most money on their hobby:
I differentiate between EDC guy and full-on Tactical guy, and yeah... Tactical guy is an intolerable tool (and worried/scared)
Guitarists:
Cyclists, RC car racers, PC gamers... every hobby is expensive.
Can’t forget Warhammer
@@hgr.7857sounds like you're a tactical guy and just separating a niche as copium. Ngl lol
"Jessie. we have to make coffee, Jessie"
Waltuh. Put your siphon away, Waltuh. I'm not brewing coffee with you right now.
I'm still waiting for friends like this... I would Stay over during the Week and Go Home on the Weekend... Maybe..
94.9% Pure Coffee. 🗿
I was looking for this comment 😂
That was a plot at one point bahahahaha
I just crocheted a blanket. It took forever, I spent well over $100 on materials, and it's not perfect. But it was fun (and a little frustrating) to make. It wasn't just about the blanket, a lot of the joy comes from the actual crocheting.
And, you made something.
You can say that now.
You can point at it and say, "I made this."
I bet that's worth something to you.
I've been crocheting for a few years now and it's really rewarding when someone asks "Where did you buy that?" and you simply reply with "I made it."
I think the difference is in the skills required to learn. Buying super expensive equipment doesn’t make you a pro in any hobby. Indeed, the actual hobbyists loathe the new guys with all the expensive toys. Crocheting is relatively cheap in tools and materials, but expensive in time and motivation to learn something difficult. That’s why it commands more respect than brewing coffee the fancy way.
Same with coffee tbh. I can go, "Hey, I made a thing that i like!" Then I can drink it and be happy and its great
@@RobBoss420 exactlyyy that
"You need a hobby like mine, Bubs"
"Hobby? What's your hobby, Ray?"
"Drinkin"
Makes me think of someone who's got a bathtub still hidden out back
Way of the road boys
That's the way she goes.
I wish I could get a taste of his coffee, that looks amazing. The smoothness of the coffee as it’s poured into the mug/cup. The glint of light and clearness almost the color of brown sea glass.
You did not defend your case💀
This is the most pretentious possible defense to being called pretentious.
Couldn’t agree more
Right. Even trying to point to video games. We all know there are normal gamers and then there are pretentious gamers. You can do a hobby without making it pretentious.
@@Faint366 Which is his point. How can you call this pretentious and completely miss the point. He enjoys doing it this way. As long as he's not judging you and your coffee then it's not pretentious.
@@kingcam0775 I’m explaining why people are calling coffee snobs pretentious. It’s not just because they spend money on themselves, it’s because they go out and tell everyone else “you’re doing it wrong” for wanting normal coffee. Can you fucking read?
@@kingcam0775that isnt his point. Hes saying that people that are calling it pretentious are missing the point, when in reality, people shaming others due to "inadequate" brewing styles is as pretentious as it gets, and that happens all the time. This guy might have a hobby, but that doesnt mean that so many others only see it as a way to brag about their wealth and flaunt their fanciness
"yo you got coffee"
"damn bro I'm sorry the particle accelerators broken"
😂😂😂😂😂
Nah this was funny 😂😂😂
Well, just use your flux capacitor back there
😂
I will give you money when you fix this damn coffee machine broken at 99%
I think it’s cool to be a bit nerdy/overly into the detail and craftsmanship of certain things. Like how some guys like watches or train sets, and other things along that same line. I got my first cheap watch and had to fix something on it recently, and taking time to make the adjustments while trying to be careful as possible was rather fun. Even though I wouldn’t consider myself a watch snob at all, I instantly understood after that hour of working, and had that feeling of “Oh, this is why people love this.” Same thing like how people are really into wine, hand crafted figurines/vases, bonsai trees, or even super specific things like carved wooden spoons. I think the people that scoff at such hobbies just want everything done quick, which is understandable on a tight schedule. However, it’s nice to slow down sometimes.
@AbandonedRaven
Based.
Exactly. If it wasn’t coffee, it would be something else.
"-Jesse, we need to cook"
"-What? Fukin' coffee?"
"-You're goddamn right."
omg 💀
"Where's all the grounded coffee beans!"- "I brewed them for ted!"
Boss: "why were you late?"
Him: " *the particle accelerator was off by 0.2 degrees* "
Lmao
"And?" I" had to turn on my pocket blackhole and Dyson sphere, so I could run all of my machines (30 hours of naming machines) and my machine that atomizes the coffee and shoots it at just the right angle to make the coffee taste like the most perfect thing ever." "I just want to go home, you're fine, I won't put this on you record *weak crying*"
Him: Why are you always on time?
Boss: Because had tea instead.🫖
Pretty sure the man with thousands of dollars of coffee gear doesn't have this kind of issue.
"Yo wanna cup"
"Sure dude"
"Aight lemme get my lightning rod"
that one sucked, rethink that one. lightning rod makes no sense in this. not to mention that you messed up the first line, needs comma and theres no explanation of “cup.” cup of coffee is better, not just “cup.”
@@Peanutsgrowintheground please remove yourself from the gene pool.
We place the lightning rod below an unrosted cup of bean. We then open the operator hand book and cast “lightning bolt”. Now that the beans are roasted we can now begin grounding them
@@Peanutsgrowinthegroundstop thinking
@@tripl9 yesss because a joke that doesn’t make sense, not even in a satirical sense is obviously a good one
I love how the siphon pot literally looks like a science major needed to make coffee in chemistry class with all the random equipment. I’m not even a coffee snob and it looks badass.
And then you find out that the real cherry on top is the fact, that the little chain is getting heated by the burner and you got black soot in your coffee. Say hello to Alzeimer's later.
The coffee siphon was the precursor to the percolator...that coffee making system was used in the coffee houses of Britain when coffee came to England many, many years ago.....and it makes beautiful smooth drinking coffee!!
@@Sala_mandr where exactly do you think the soot from the burner is getting inside the pot?
@@MCDreng right at the bottom, where the chain touches the glass bottom and where the flame heats the glass.
When it si not hooked, the chain is in the tube, but when you hook it, whole chain goes at he bottom like a snake and you burn it. Just watch that black smoke going from the chain up.
Enjoy
@@MCDreng And i don't think, i KNOW
I think the main problem that people have is that so many people nowadays who do this type of stuff treat others as less than because they don't spend thousands of dollars on their means of making coffee. Same goes for other hobbies too. As long as you're not being a snob about it, I see no problem with it
Meh
Well i think the issue is justifying an expensive hobby. Some hobbies are just fun in of itself but brewing coffee with 40 extra steps and lying to yourself that it somehow tastes better seems disingenuous and thats where the pretentious accussations come in. Spending extra time and money for a worse cup of coffee? Thats the height or luxury and waste.
@@rw5622This reeks of insecurity. What use do your hobbies have? How would you know if this coffee is better or worse than anything you have had? It's rather embarrassing to be so close minded.
@@Croptopkinrealistically there's only so much you can do to alter the flavour of a bean beyond doing things directly to it.
This video for example it probably doesn't taste different to just using a proper filter or a good cafetiere since at the end of the day the process you're using is boiling.
The thing in this video is just using something akin to reflux to make the process look impressive, but the process is exactly the same of boiling water
Same can be the same regardless of hobby. “Oh you play console? Well you should play PC!”
“Oh you like movies? Well you should read books!” “Oh you like this? Well you ahould this that”
Regardless of what it is people will always bitch
"I swear this is just my coffee setup, mr officer!"
😂😂😂
😂
Well, I once did had a search party over because of some other dude with the exact same name as me. Yup - the siphon was on the counter, next to various grinders and implements... fun times
Me as the police officer: _Sure. Whatever you said. Mr. White._
“Ahhh time for my morning coffee”
*whips out a whole meth lab*
Facts
breaking bad reference?
@@JaylolTVnah, that ain't breaking bad, that's fixing good 💀
Waltuh get me some coffee waltuh
@@tiffanychou6869 ...
I don't think Coffee enthusiast are pretentious, I just find them annoying when they got angry because I put sugar in my coffee instead of drinking back and with no sweetener
Sorry to hear that. I am okay with people doing what they like with their coffee.
It depends on the coffee for me. Most milk is sweet enough in a lah-day. Sugar in a black coffee from a coffee phin is my goto right now.
lol coffee snobs don't think that, it's people who hate coffee snobs who think that
@@skilletpan5674 *''Lah-day''?...*
Wait till they find out that some people put salt in their coffee...
It's not pretentious if you are honest that you do it for the fun of it. It's pretentious when others claim doing the 20 steps makes it somehow superior.
I mean, it's gonna taste better, usually. Same as homemade ramen is gonna taste better than Cup o Noodle. It wouldn't be a hobby if there wasn't a difference. Just don't judge people who aren't into coffee for drinking generic brand bulk coffee
@@cryterion7770 and I said in the very first sentence of my comment that it'll Usually taste better. Usually is not always. Sometimes home cooking tastes bad, sometimes home brewing tastes bad too. But usually it tastes good
@@cryterion7770 okay, and I say it makes a difference. Obviously, the machines would not exist if there was not a difference. I don't go out and buy a 400 dollar airbrush just because I want to spend money, I do it because it makes my painting easier and better looking. He buys an aeropress to make the coffee taste different. And sometimes it doesn't go well. Sometimes you pick the wrong coffee and it tastes worse or the same. A hobby is all about experimentation and honing your craft. He says as much when he points out that it feels like a science experiment. Experiments have results, some good, some bad, some neutral.
@@cryterion7770 but part of the fun IS enjoying the taste. A bit like baking a nice cake, the fun part is eating it… Doesn’t always go 100% right, but when it does, damn. 😅
Nobody does that 😂
This guy really said "Real coffee is the memories we made along the way"
😂😂😂
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Juan Pis
I don't want to ruin the 666 likes
Friendship ended with coffeemaker.
Now coffee particle accelerator is my best friend.
"man i want some coffee"
*takes out various scientific equipments to make the cure for cancer💀
We already have that, take Australian Sandalwood essential oil 5 drops 3 times a day along with Dragons Blood 30 drops 3 times a day. Results in 1 month or less.
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@@BurntFossilyou serious?
@@gigachad5426 now it is on us to spread the word I guess.
Gay
@@BurntFossil i pray that you don't get hunted by the government for this valuable information
"Walter, we need to cook legal narcotics."
“Oh look, I’m finally done making the coffee!”
*It’s 5 PM*
Filipinos: "Seems normal for me."
@@UndisclosedAccfilipinos suck fr fr
@@UndisclosedAccwhen tf did we start making coffee at 5 pm
@@HaventSleptIn30Yearsits normal to me atleast on school days bcs i need to wake up at 5:00AM
@@HaventSleptIn30Yearsever since college
People don’t accuse coffee enthusiasts about being pretentious because they enjoy making it, it’s because 99% they are insufferable about their tastes and look down on others for drinking affordable coffee.
"instant coffee? OHH MY GAWD I COULD NEVER DRINK THAT!"
Cool try this battery acid and give me your thought
Isn't there like a type of coffee where making (or buying) instant coffee is literally part of the process? I'm pretty sure I something about that.
I love coffee but also don't care what coffee other people drink. It's something I love and that doesn't have to be the same for everyone. If it tastes good to you and you like it, that's all that matters. All the baristas I've met have been the most down to earth kind people.
@@unsolicitedditkapics9722your just as annoying as all the others
@@unsolicitedditkapics9722 i hope your parentless and is destined to be a orphan
I stopped making fun of other peoples hobbies when i realized how much ive spent on board games
I have never had a board game give me the shits so...
I dont wanna know what i spent on bjj and muay thai gear.
I'm a chef so my hobby is kitchen things. I'm pretty sure my knives alone are about 30k. That was the point I realized that I have no room to talk, lol.
Board games are a better than this coffee nonsense.
@@daveyjones8969 mimimi
It’s like analogue photography, we enjoy the process, at the end of the day you have a generic photo like anyone else haha
"Jesse, we need to brew, Jesse" - Heisenbrew
99.1% Pure espresso
JESSER
"See in my opinion, it's all about the Quinic acid level. You want just the north 4800 milligrams per liter... but if you over-boil to get there, you'll leach their tannins.
Bitterness, yuck.
So pull a mild vacuum... That way, I can keep the temperature no higher than 92°C and... Judge for yourself."
-Gale Boetticher
@@cronialpalerwhy are we making meth?
@@cronialpaler Breaking Bad if Walter didn't have Gale killed.
Pretentiousness isn’t about being nerdy or geeky about a subject, it’s about imposing and judging your idea of the “right way to do something” onto others. The reason many feel that coffee nerds are pretentious is because they have been judged by them. If there isn’t any judgement I think people wouldn’t really care.
You’re 100% on the money. It’s ok to be nerdy/geeky about coffee. But when it has to be this way or you think less of someone then it’s a problem.
I don’t care much about coffee but I know there’s different roasts and how they affect caffeine levels (light are more caffeinated and dark cook more out). Also the coffee beans have different profiles and all that.
There’s some people who like it distinctly black but also want their beans a certain way. And that’s fine but at the same time if that person is going to judge me because I add milk and sugar then they’re pretentious.
As (once) an alcoholic, I feel like coffee experimenting and brewing as a hobby is just the same as alcoholic mixology but safer. At least it’s not much detrimental to the health compared (stunned height and anxiety vs… everything your brain and muscles do but kinda poisoned)
But at the same time, fuck off… “yOuR iRiSh cOfFeE iS oNlY tHreE iNgRedIeNts?”
Me, using red wine sometimes in my coffee, the most wrong alcohol for it and might as well be called French coffee: “Yes.”
Pretentious has more meaning than that
People who go coachella fall under the pretentious spectrum too
it’s just a different way or saying you’re addicted to something. i could say the same about some who likes to smoke crack
"I like to have my coffee at 6 AM"
*proceeds to set alarm to 3:45 AM*
I think doing this stuff would be fun, but my morning coffee would definitely be from the everyday instant coffee machine. I would get some crazy shit like this out if I knew it was a slow and boring day
I try get up at 4:30 and out of my house by 5:00 when I have the morning shift at work. I don't really like instant coffee but I don't have time for anything else. Sometimes I literally have 5 min cause I am not great at getting up early enough and I barely have time to make myself instant coffee. I love good coffee but I don't have time for anything else and I need coffee to function in the morning
As someone who usually only drinks instant coffee your comment made me literally lol 🤣
😂
😂😂😂😂
“We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing”
Excellent comment straight from the US Supreme Court.
“Yo bro can I get some coffee?”
“Sure, give me a sec”
*Becomes Walter White*
Gales coffee machine
My thoughts exactly XD
It's not about the coffee, it's about me roleplaying a mad alchemist making a super-soldier potion.
My thoughts exactly. This isn't coffee anymore, you're brewing a full on potion. You better have an incantation ready for when it starts bubbling.
Use It or Lose It
But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life. In this way, you will keep yourselves safe in God’s love.
-Jude 1:20-21-
Some of us treat our faith like a fragile egg. But faith isn’t fragile. Faith is given to us to use, to stretch, to flex, and to develop. And the more we use our faith, the more faith we will have.
On the other hand, if we neglect our faith, it will atrophy. In other words, use it or lose it. Faith is like a muscle. The more we use it, the stronger it becomes.
The Bible says this about faith: “But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life”
(Jude 1:20-21)
Notice the emphasis is on faith doing things. Faith is praying, faith is staying, and faith is keeping. Faith is active.
God has given us this faith to use, but we don’t use it. Our faith is all show and no go.
World changers have an active, not a passive, faith.
If your mugs dont have transmutation circles for coffee then dont @ me
Pretentious is when you own cool things and use them, got it 🤦🏿♂️
I'd like to think that people who mixes different types of herbal tea have the same feeling as well.
Bro makes his coffee in a gravity bong 💀
Bro that's what I thought it was lmaoo
😂😂
@penileymajorey7174Bro 💀
@penileymajorey7174🤓🤓🤓🤓
The only bong water I'd drink
Ah yes, the short that somehow started my journey down the coffee rabbit hole. I love this statement a lot still, really. Having gone deep into coffee as a hobby I could not agree more with everything you say here. And not only do I appreciate the coffee I have and make much more these days, it has transferred to a lot of aspects of my cooking, too, where I don't take my ingredients in general for granted and that is a gift, really. Anyway, thank you for getting me into this fantastic and very expensive hobby. I love it.
My condolences
I bet these weren’t the comments he was expecting LMAO 😭
Honestly I bet they were exactly what he was expecting. He gets the same types of comments on pretty much every video.
Okay
Ignoring the whole fucking chemistry set you got there
That coffee at the end looks so fucking good
For me it looks kinda weak ngl
That's just objectively wrong
@@nescaumarqueti5793its filter coffee brother, thats the correct colour
It literally just looks like coffee💀
weak as fuck, here in brasil we call it chafe
“I need 1 coffee, please”
“Lemme grab my Bunsen burner”
Meanwhile, wine people pay $500 for a wine glass. At least coffee gears does enhance the coffee taste.
that's the thing. wine snobs literally pretend like they can taste the region a grape is from, etc. while with coffee these things aren't placebos so there's actually a point to them. As with everything there are dimenishing returns at some point, but spending say, 3k on an espresso set up is actually meaningfully different than spending 200$ on it (while spending 15k won't be much different than spending 3k)
“Can I have some coffee”
“Sure”
“Pull out a centrifuge”
"officer i swear to god im not making cocaine"
"That's caffeine right there sir"
Meth😂
lol
Police I swear to god
People who drink Gas Station Coffee and starbucks: Normal
People who spend thousands of dollars and hours for their coffee: Normal
People who frown at the first sight of coffee creamers and paper cups: Pretentious
Nahh creamer is nasty
@@NN-sp9tuagree 😂
@@NN-sp9tu Dairy in general is nasty. We're the only beings to drink the milk of another being. Milk that's meant for infants of any being that produces it. Most humans still cannot process dairy or any animal milks beyond adolescence. It used to be all humans, it is for other beings.
@@NN-sp9tucus u only think of international delight and coffeemate creamer. Creamer can be literally just cream, maybe a bit of half and half, and a little vanilla extract.
@@kittiekillah
True
Over the years, I've used numerous coffee machines, usually to have their heating elements eventually burn out. Then, I acquired a "French press." It was quicker than a drip type coffee maker, produced excellent coffee, but didn't filter out "sludge." Then I got a device that consisted of only a vase-shaped glass container & basket, which fit into its top. It works like a "drip" machine, except the water is poured in manually. Then I had an idea! "Cowboy coffee" consists of dumping the coffee into a pot of boiling water, removing the heat, letting it steep, a little, then pouring off the coffee. I tried that method, but used the basket & filter. The coffee was great! One day I ran out of filters, so I improvised, and used a paper towel, cut to size. The coffee was just as good, but the towel filter was much quicker. I no longer buy coffee filters, but get rolls of paper towels, from Walmart, for $.68 apiece.
Awesome. After having purchased several different types of devices to brew coffee, I've settled on the french press as my preferred method. I believe it produces the best tasting coffee compared to other devices I've used. But, on work days, I settle for drip coffee. It's a compromise between speed and taste.
The joy is in the journey.
- ha ha, yes a stainless permanent filter in a pourover (in the past I have improvised with coffee, a paper towel and a kitchen funnel...)- I may prebrew in a pyrex jug (the cowboy coffee element).... A siphon (with stainless steel filter for simplicity) - using atmospheric pressure and a low pressure "suction" chamber, wastes less of the goodness in the soggy grounds.. But there is a little cleanup. (A "butane" burner with a siphon is a lot quicker than a poorly functioning alcohol burner.)
@@kadmow I just had an idea! I'm a CHEMIST! (Actually, my degree's in chemical engineering, but the American Chemical Society says I have a right to the title of "Chemist"). An Erlenmeyer vacuum filtration flask, with a Buckner funnel & filter, and vacuum pump or water aspirator. It would be QUICK, extract every drop of coffee, and remove every microscopic particle of sludge! 🤪
"Man I feel like some coffee right now"
"Oh I got some" *pulls out a normal and convenient machine*
*The absolute most disgusted and crinkled face in reaction* "that's not real coffee"
Is probably why people have this thought.
This is exactly why they're pretentious. Coffee people don't just enjoy the process of making coffee, they look down on everyone who consumes coffee for the utility it provides. It doesn't help that it being so expensive breeds classist attitudes but that's just the piss cherry on the shit pie of how insufferable these people are.
When I enjoy video games, I don't look down on people who read books or are still using their 3ds from 2015 because they fundamentally do not care about video games as much as I do, looking down on them for not caring about the process of something they don't care about the outcome of is like trying to dig a trench with a spoon.
Coffee people don't just view it as a hobby, they view it as a superior way of consuming the product (similar to PC "master race" people who are equally if not more insufferable than coffee people)
I agree those kinda people are pretentious af
A lot of people do look down on people for reading books though, as well as people still using 3DS.
"it's different because I don't" right here..
@@HavingCrumpets not at all? I have only seen people make fun of pretentious book readers (aka people who claim to be smarter and more intellectually developed and constantly brag about how many books they read while not actually knowing jackshit about anything) and I have not seen anyone make fun of someone for playing on an outdated device?? that is kind of a weird thing to do
@@VazikliDuokodajust because those are the few instances you’ve seen doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. That’s literally the line, “it doesn’t happen to me, so it’s not true.”
I think you’re missing the forest for the trees. Your personal enjoyment of coffee will never cause someone to call you pretentious. It’s when people in the coffee community belittle the way other people make coffee that turns them off.
I’ve literally seen people in the community go “Oh why would you ever use Starbucks coffee beans” or “Oh that machine is a piece of trash” or any number of other ways they’ve made people who aren’t in the hobby or are just getting started feel small. The response to anyone telling you about their setup should be “Oh cool, you should definitely try X, Y or Z though if you get the chance”, not “OMG why do you even bother”
it's fine to tell people that their choices are entry-level or D-grade honestly. if people are comfortable with convenience that's okay but there's always room for improving your game and learning more about the process than "buy k-cup, insert into plastic machine, drink"
@@skritzo so this right here is exactly the take people find condescending. Convenience is not “D grade”, and calling someone’s choice out like that is only ever going to push them away from the hobby. Because that’s all good coffee is - it’s not going to functionally improve your life, it’s just a nice-to-have
@@ItsIntelligentDesign none of your hobbies functionally improve your life, ffs. but as long as you're actively participating in things you find enjoyable and not "faking it till you make it," you should want to hear how you can improve your craft. it saves time at the very least. convenience isn't automatically D grade, you're lumping my two sentences together. but it can be, and I know many people who only drink coffee for the bare minimum purpose of waking up, and some of them are total know-it-alls about coffee while barely engaging with it. they swear by their D-grade methods, and are hostile to any type of pro-tips on how to improve. that's the real condescension: pretending to know what you're talking about and not being open to correction
@@skritzoGeorge "oh your wife bought you (insert model) espresso machine. Man honestly I'm not a fan of that machine if she asked I would have given her tips on a better machine. "
Well George that's all we could afford this year my mother has cancer and we had to help with payment.
Point of this statement is to highlight that someone may have sentimental value or may not have the money for expensive equipment. It is a exaggeration but the point is still the same. To shame someone based on them enjoying their hobbies with the means they have is goofy especially because that maybe all they can or do have. I'm not saying you're doing this but if you disagree then you ARE doing something at least similar.
Enjoying these kinds of things can be categorized as pretentious by other people, even if you never do anything pretentious. This is the internet, people will hate you for breathing too loud.
You want a coffee?
"Yeah"
-Gets water from fountain of youth
-gets coffee grounds from Peru
-Boils water using fire from Prometheus
*takes a sip*
Nice, as good as the gas station coffee
cool short story idea
Prometheus is a guy not a place
@@The_Sharktocrab Right, a God of Fire which was granted to humans. So, "using fire from Prometheus" is accurate.
@@RoseKindred so all fire is from prometheus
I need to get this coffee machine just so I can have an excuse to wear a wizard robe
Coffee enthusiast: *is accused of being pretentious*
Coffee enthusiast: *responds by being pretentious*
How? Pretentiousness is thinking you're superior to others in the way you do something compared to how other people do it.
@@jimit.4220 congratulations you have identified what homeboy did in the video
@@jb76489 how did he do that exactly? Because I don't see it. He's not saying he's superior in any way, he's just saying he's a geek about the stuff.
If he didn't mention the thing about being pretentious. This would come out as someone who loves brewing coffee and not overly defensive.
@@jb76489ok, now quote the part where he insisted that he was superior to others
The pretentiousness stereotype comes not from the things you mentioned but from them reacting negatively to people liking their coffee some other way, or not caring about their coffees quality as much.
I don't think this guy is guilty of any of that. I think maybe he is addressing the wrong thing here.
honestly, most people who’re genuinely interested in coffee making will be so happy to tell you all about it with 0 judgement of how you enjoy it yourself. take james hoffman for an example. theres unkind and pretentious ppl everywhere, but it doesn’t mean it’s everyone or even most.
What you refer to as "some people liking their coffee in a different way" it usually is people actively attacking and making fun of coffee enthusiasts because it's 'unnecessary' and they can make 'better' coffee more easily. Just like vegans, I've must have encountered like 2 vegans both on and offline that were obnoxious about it, but I've seen thousands of people complaing about vegans like crazy.
Yeah anyone can be pretentious about their own hobbies
@@MiketheNerdRangerYup addressing the wrong things.
He literally just said “yeah we are”💀
you definitely need to pick up a hobby
😂
@@zachnhso Not caffeine alchemy...
Not literaly, but basicaly yeah.
Bro he literally said that he does not give a fuck and just want to enjoy his time making coffee in different ways.
“We’ve gotten to point where pulling a shot of espresso takes like 27 different steps” had me dead
As a man who's an alcohol enthusiast I get it.
Hard brewed Bathtub Moonshine
@@Countryoncrackyou have a bathtub?
Coffee enthusiast aren't pretentious; Coffee machine enthusiasts are
Thisss! Moka pot, k-cups, espresso machine, pour over, pot, I don’t care. As long as YOU love your coffee that’s all that matters! :D
its a drug. theyre just doing drugs lol
@@durden91tyleryour not wrong but it doesn’t really have an effect on ur body if u only drink a cup a day
Sugar can also be considered a drug because it improves ur mood and gives u a little sugar rush (drugs work different on everyone bc everyone’s body is different)
@@durden91tyleroh my god caffeine is a drug! 😮 No wonder it's so scary. Has such a negative impact on society smh
@@kwoni3337a lot of illegal drugs dont have a negative impact on society apart from crime rates, so thats a poor attempt at sarcasm!
Coffee people: "We're not pretentious"
Audiophiles: "First time?"
*laughs in MOONDROP Chu*
Audiophile stuff is mad
I once found some audiophile cables (big aux connector on both sides) and only a few years later did i find out that they were pure gold inside.... ~120 grams of pure gold
@@angrydragonslayer Yep! And it's also 100% useless.
@@freesoftwareextremist8119 i got them for $5 out of a cable box at a goodwill, right next to the amp and headphones they belonged to (which was $50 total)
I doubt the cable itself actually does anything but with this find, i went from a razer gaming headset to a $12k electroststic setup and boy was there a difference there.
You don't know true pretentiousness until you see 80% of audio newbies rejecting our one true overlord, KOSS
Tea:
-get herb
-grind
-put in bag
-put in water
-yummy
Coffee:
-create ethiopia
-have coffee be discovered
-human development
-the industrial revolution
-steelworks
-synthetics developed
-this article is a stub, help Wikipedia by *adding to it.*
there was an entire breaking bad subplot about a dude this pretentious about his coffee and it ended with him fucking dying
LMFAO
LMFAO
That was funny enough to make me genuinely laugh but the more I look at that comment the more upsetting it gets
Good.
Nah Gale was less upfront and pretentious he was clearly speaking from s place of excitement from the awe of meeting a superior scientist.
wants coffee
accidentally creates philosophers's stone
As a barista, I can totally say coffee drinkers are beyond pretentious. The drinks I've had to make for my customers over the years never cease to amaze me 😅
Can I get a double hazelnut sprinkle mocha frap macchiato with 0.5% milk, yank the foam, 6pH and a shot of ultra nitrogen infused espresso, hold the cream.
😂
@@beelzeboo oops, I accidentally spoinked the cream instead. My bad 💀
As a barista would you say what you make sometimes is just plain awful and people still drink it because its trendy?
@@raihanwinata5329 honestly? Yeah, BUT I get paid 🤷♀️
@@raihanwinata5329 I've made the grossest things that people INSIST is good, healthy, "only for serious coffee drinkers", etc...and I still have to make it. I've had to dump coffee that's barely 10 minutes old cuz some of my regulars who INSISTS they know what coffee is say that SOMEHOW, SOMEWAY those 10 minutes are TOO late. All these..tastes(?) customers have really end up just leading to waste and it just plain sucks. I honestly REALLY want to get further into coffee and stuff, but then I see my customers and their trendy drinks and I think twice lol.
Don't get me wrong though! I love making drinks! I will make a damn good latte given the time, but today's "average" coffee drinker really sucked the fun out of coffee...
Everyone has things they like to geek out on. Don’t let anyone tell you your choice is less than. Be a coffee nerd and love your hobby.
What makes people pretentious is saying "you're drinking it wrong". You add some sugar to your cup and someone is **bound** to come up with that. Don't be that person. Be inviting. Share your passion.
True but that does not mean you should group all of them together.
Just because some in a community are annoying and pretensious doesn't mean the entire community is
Sugar is disgusting in coffee though. The only coffee I drink is from my keurig and from restaurants, so it's not like I'm drinking fancy coffee anyways. Sugar is just bad in coffee
@@lukasg4807To you and to me. Taste is subjectice, just because we don't like sugar in coffee it doesn't automatically make sugar a bad thing to add to coffee in general.
@@diego032912Exactly, like I find adding sugar to plain coffee is just horrid but some people do it. Personally I think you need at least some milk to bridge that gap. Minimum ratio of 1/3 milk to 2/3 coffee add sugar to taste. If someone does it another way that's their way. It's not wrong. Unless their burning their coffee. Then it's a suggestion not a rant to them.
I don't even add water to coffee. Just milk and sugar.
It's that you can't offer them a simple cup of coffee without that look of disgust.
Exaaacttlly or they grimace when you suggest to stop at a chain coffee shop
@@duckheadbob ya it becomes antisocial at a certain point, or self-aggrandizing for them either way it's 🤮
i had somone cuss me out because i asked if they liked their coffee with sugar creamer or both.
their answer was some rant about the delicate process of making "real" coffee and not some "mcdonalds clone garbage"
They're the kinda person that will come to your house and shit talk the coffee you made, explaining in detail why they could do it better
Then get confused when they're not invited again
@duckheadbob to be fair Starbucks and others like it are scams
Honestly as a tea person people who think that coffee people are pretentious then i KNOW they haven't met a tea person in their life yet
When you say you are a tea person, you mean as in "i buy good quality tea that i brew properly for a better experience" or as in "i follow the 27 steps of the ancient tea ritual of the Tsu dynasty court"?
@@giacomoromano8842that's me right there lol
@@giacomoromano8842 yes
Or witnessed a Japanese tea ceremony 😭
@@giacomoromano8842 Yes
As a person that does both golf and video games as a hobby, I can confirm that they are expensive.
I never knew coffee could be a hobby. That's pretty cool. Honestly, your explanation makes a lot of this make so much more sense. It's cool how different people enjoy things in their own way. One man's caffeine juice can be another man's fun and meditative process.
There's nothing cool about coffee. Drink it or don't, just STFU about it.
@@charlest5604 why are you so mad? Just because you aren't interested in coffee doesn't mean other people aren't
I would say it is (in a certain level) to the same degree as tea brewing for a hobby
@@charlest5604If you don't think coffee is even the slightest bit interesting and you don't want to see a channel about a guy and his hobbie, then just don't watch the video??
@nightmendo7844
You snobs enjoy blaming people, blame the algorithm.
An hour of alchemy for a cup? I’m down ❤❤
if ya got the money and time then i'd say it's at least worth a try. school taught me the concept of an 'open mindset' and it goes a very long way having it.
@@TechSupportDavewhich school did you go to? Never ever heard that expression in a school building before. 😂
I usually grind my own beans (mandheling arabica), put em on the cup and pour some hot water, stir and just wait for it to settle. I kid you not my coffee was better than most coffee shop 😅
Dont forget the demon u summon on step 347 has to turn let twice and right once
That’s not alchemy it’s just glorified hot cocoa
It becomes pretentious when a person starts trying to describe their particular preferences and methods as "better" and they thumb their nose at anything they see as "lesser". The unfortunate fact is there's a rather high concentration of these people in the "coffee enthusiast" circles.
That still doesn't give you the right to be an asshole
its not pretentious if im right and your just always wrong. i bet u drink tea
i mean, his coffee is better. Like a Baker bread is better than a normal person bread, i don't get why do you feel so attacked by someone doing something better than most people. Not that you are wrong for doing it wrong, you are doing it fine, but if someone has a hobby and he know more about a topic than most people, obviously he's gonna make that thing he's good at better
@matteoinvernazzi4331 it's this exact mindset that people are talking about "not that you are wrong for doing it wrong" he's not doing it wrong, he's doing it the way that works for him, which is not doing 20 or more steps for his coffee. It's not about making "better coffee" it's about how coffee snobs act like they are better than you as a person just because of the way they make their coffee.
@@frog1405 i'm probably telling you something you already know, but you are aware that people like what you are describing don't exist in the real world right? Like how many people do you think are out there saying that they are better than someone else because they make a better coffee? Also why are you bringing this point if this is not what we were talking about? obv you are not doing your coffe wrong, 99,9999% of people do the coffee the same way, but at the same time if he spends more time into making a perfect coffee and see it as a passion it will taste better. That's the only point of the video, and i don't even understand how can some people take this as some sort of personal attack like "do you think you are better than me just because you do your coffee better?"
“It feels like I’m doing a science project” you know you can just do a real science project right
I'm not an alcoholic. I simply view alcoholic beverages as a hobby rather than a commodity like most people.
It's all about the experience.
Have you ever heard of expensive cocktail bars...?
You know, you might just like the stuff you drink or be a connoisseur. Nothing to do with alcoholism. Getting occasionally wasted on a party isn't alcoholism either. Trust me, I know. Tell me you know nothing about alcoholism without telling me you know nothing about alcoholism.
I feel like the type of guys who write “tasting notes” as they sip their extremely expensive single-malt whisky are probably a lot less likely to have a drinking problem than the guys drinking stuff like cheap vodka
@@gandoff7840i heard driving boost the experience ten folds
Finding the perfect coffee can be a journey, and you might never find it.
There's a story about Tom Petty (yes the musician) going in to a diner, and he ordered a coffee. once he started drinking it, he realized that it's the best coffee that he's ever had. He HAD to know how they made it.
So he politely asked if he could go back in the kitchen and see exactly how they made it. They showed him an old commercial stainless steel Bunn coffee machine from the 1960's. They showed him that they used a precise amount of coffee and water for each pot. What was the coffee they used? It was none other than just plain ole Maxwell House, in the blue can.
Petty immediately got on to ebay and ordered multiple of this exact coffee machine model, Maxwell house and the exact measuring spoons they used.
That was HIS perfect coffee. If you find YOUR perfect coffee, that's all that matters, and it might be more simple than you think.
It's true. Some of us have sensitive taste buds and not just any coffee will suffice. It's why I'm not just drinking coffee like water, I actually need to taste and enjoy what I make.
That`s some story !
Ive had perfect coffee once. They discontinued it right after i bought my first pack.
@@roboticrebel4092 What shitty luck!
@@Doomzdayxx i just looked it up as i was writing that comment. I, at least, can stop looking for it.
As a fellow coffee nerd, the pretentious label is only applied to people who try to aggressively evangelize their hobby. Very few people are going to spend $4K on a grinder and $6K on an espresso machine. We have to accept the fact that coffee nerds are a small demographic and that's okay. I always try to share my knowledge but don't feel a need to push my coffee fanaticism on others.
this. being passionate with coffee is different than being an elitist.
yeah it makes you an autist, I bet dollars to doughnuts that a medium mcdonalds double double would walk all over this gravity bong coffee
@@jamessantos7241
Spending money is not a hobby. Look, if you're going to spend 10k on your coffee gear, you ARE being pretentious. The least you could do is own up to it.
You are spending 3 years worth of labor of a Colombian coffee bean picker on a blender. Drinking that coffee would make me nauseous.
@izayus11 So what your saying is they're spending money on something they enjoy with THEIR own money and your saying their pretenscious? Honestly just get a job and mind your own business
@@singNsong-gc9kt You can spend money on whatever you please. But words still have meaning. Consumerism is not a hobby. Pretentiousness is not always pedantic: when the princess said "let them eat cake", she honestly thought she was sharing meaningful economic policy. People who think drinking coffee counts as a personality will swear that a La Marzocco tastes different than a breville. I mean, sure, as long as you don't think too much on the bean picker who earns 3-5 dollar a day on 100f humid wheather.
This is like calling out a miniature hobbyist for going out and buying several 160$ GW model sets, very nice hobby tools, many different colors of primer, a really good set of art brushes and a whole full color set of paints made for miniatures specifically
bro is making the heisenberg special
"Why are we making meth?"
I thought Gale was better at making coffee
Nah bro thats the Gale Special
"Jesse, we need to brew"
Use It or Lose It
But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life. In this way, you will keep yourselves safe in God’s love.
-Jude 1:20-21-
Some of us treat our faith like a fragile egg. But faith isn’t fragile. Faith is given to us to use, to stretch, to flex, and to develop. And the more we use our faith, the more faith we will have.
On the other hand, if we neglect our faith, it will atrophy. In other words, use it or lose it. Faith is like a muscle. The more we use it, the stronger it becomes.
The Bible says this about faith: “But you, dear friends, must build each other up in your most holy faith, pray in the power of the Holy Spirit, and await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will bring you eternal life”
(Jude 1:20-21)
Notice the emphasis is on faith doing things. Faith is praying, faith is staying, and faith is keeping. Faith is active.
God has given us this faith to use, but we don’t use it. Our faith is all show and no go.
World changers have an active, not a passive, faith.
Bros mug is legitimately just a bowl with a handle.
And I *need* it in my house
@@Inuxxus I respect that
@@knockoffninja imagine the intimidation factor of just casually pulling out a cup the size of your head
@@Inuxxus this reminds me of those "I've got back to just one cup of coffee a day mugs" if you know you know
@@knockoffninjamanager at my second job unironically said that
She couldn't actually lift her mug enough to tip it so she just sipped on it until it was halfwat empty
There’s a difference between making fancy coffee because you like making it that way vs telling people they can’t enjoy their morning Dunkin’ on the commute to work
thank god OP isnt doing that, not even in this specific video right
I like niche hobbies like espresso shots, yerba mate tea, and things like that
Seeing a lot of people describe this as the creator having an addiction and, as someone who actually has addictions, I wanted to give my thoughts.
An addiction is always about a quick fix. It might start slow, but it never ends that way. The more you do it, the quicker you need it. Believe me, if he was just addicted to the caffeine, he wouldn’t be *adding* steps, he’d be subtracting them. It’d go from brewed to canned, just to get it quicker when you feel like you need it.
But you know what does actually really help with addictions? Hobbies. It doesn’t honestly matter how stupid anyone else thinks the hobby is- taking time and effort and careful patience in tending to something is such an important part of the human experience. It’s one that’s easy for all of us to forget in a world as fast-paced and money-driven as ours. Stopping to care for something- *anything* can be healing. Especially for addicts.
I am not a coffee person. But I understand how he feels, and I’m endeared. It can feel so rewarding to take time and care towards anything in your life. It’s something we all deserve- time and care. For ourselves, for our hobbies.
It’s a shame the world as it is has robbed us of our time. But that’s not this silly coffee guy’s fault, even if I do feel a bit of envy. Good for you coffee dude, keep coffee-ing ☕️ 👍
beautifully said
too long
@@Coolkid245 no one asked? if it's too long for you to read then just move along.
@@Coolkid245 what shorts content does to a mf
@@Coolkid245How long has bro been on shorts
"Yeah, it still tastes like coffee. So how much did you spend on this again?"
- completely unbearable people
@@privateger you sound pretentiously coping
@@memsysr who's the guy being dismissive of someone's hobby here lol
It's not about the cost, it's about the EXPERIENCE... 💸💸💸
@@privategercope harder
I would agree with you 100% if you weren’t using a grinder that costs 4 and a half thousand dollars
I mean some people spend more than that on a gaming rig. Some people want to pump more money into their hobbies than others. It’s all personal preference.
@@freedomfighter763bro nobody spends over 4,000 on a gaming rig. Its exceedingly rare for that to be the case. Even the biggest tech nerd on the planet is unlikely to drop even half of that amount of money on a computer
@@PrimetimeXpeople with jobs do LMAO
A decent 4K monitor with a gaming rig that can do 100+ frames can cost 4 thousand dollars
It’s seen as an investment to an activity that brings joy
@PrimetimeX tell me you dont know shit about gaming setups without saying it
@@VuiitoI’m sorry if you’re spending 4k on a gaming rig I’d hope to god you get more than 100 fps lmao. I spent 2k 8 years ago and I still run most games at 200+ on the highest settings
Audiophiles 🤝 coffee people
"wHy wOUld yOu ruIN sOmEThinG sO sPEcIaL bY aDDiNg SuGAr iN iT?!"
Adds non-dairy creamer out of spite
Honestly, if someone says this to me?
Im gonna use premade coffee mix just to spite them.
This is very true. But ill be honest high quality coffee does taste perfect black. I also love high quality cold brew. (I also drink high sugar supermarket coffee i like every type of coffee 😂)
@@x7themmonly if that black coffee is brewed espresso-style, otherwise it’s just dirty water.
@@adolfolerito6744 100% thats why ppl add sugar and milk to fix it 😆
“Jesse, we need to brew.”
Its all fun and game till you have to clean all that shit 🗿
That is truly a thing of beauty! Even if you didn't use it every day, it's worth having sitting on the counter. You hit the bulls eye! It's not putting pre-ground coffee in the coffee maker preset the night before. It's a Tea Ceremony to start the day every morning.
"Coffee isnt just a drink"
Coffee: *litterally a drink*
But it means more to him! Like fucking chicks means more to
Bro really said, it’s not “just” coffee
I mean that equipment does look like it can double as a meth lab
I can’t believe it’s not lab grade amphetamines. Tastes like the real thing!
If that doesn’t enhance the coffee, then you’re just LARPing as a chemist using coffee.
Yeah, that's like, his point...
I mean chefs are larping as chemists too if we go with your logic
@@cucumbermainline to be fair some chefs are bordering on being amature chemists. The phrasing is different but the end result is the same.
Yeah... that's exactly what he said. Are your ears working alright?
@@jackmanleblanc2518 bro's hearing comments lmao?
"For most, coffee is a means to an end, which is to wake up. For others, it's a hobby."
Nah, I take it a step further, it's ART. And you know what? I STILL don't need any of that unnecessary machinery. All I need is a Moka pot.
"accused of being pretentious"
Nah, it's just accurate labeling.
The pretentious aspect comes from those who thinks that the 27 steps is the only way to enjoy coffee and that you do not deserve to claim that you love coffee otherwise.
Edit: And even if you do 27 steps, it might not be THEIR 27 steps so you're doing it wrong still.
exactly!
How many people have you seen actually act like this? Is this a serious problem in the coffee community, or did you just read a couple annoying comments that got downvoted or ratioed?
These types of people give the community a bad name and it’s quite annoying. Whatever method you like wether it be that high end specialty coffee in Colombia with the 39 steps puck prep, or if it be an instant coffee with milk and sugar, the important part is that you enjoy yourself.
You see those actors in every community, from art to e-sports. Elitism isn't limited to coffee.
I haven't met a single coffee nerd who would get mad that you aren't doing the exact method they do. They generally care more that you are getting to enjoy high quality coffee and mostly give me more recommendations on roasters and specific origins I might want to try.
“time for my morning coffee”
*whips out a whole science laboratory*
"Good evening *sips yesterdays morning coffee"*
I love the more advanced ways of brewing coffee because it feels like I'm participating in actual chemical science, but I get the added benefit of something I can ingest at the end without literally or figuratively burning a hole in my stomach. Can't wait to get an espresso machine or something.
Let the Alchemists make their wakefulness potions in peace!
I don't know man, I like cooking fancy things and love my steak cooked sous vide, but I won't spit out someone else's steak that isn't cooked this way. I won't berate people for using a teflon pan instead of a cast iron and I will enjoy food cooked whichever way. I feel like many coffee bros would not be capable of this distinction and that's where the accusations of pretentiousness come from.
I agree. Yeah, there are some assholes who will call you pretentious for putting in more than the bare minimum, but that's not how coffee people get a reputation for pretentiousness. It's the shitting on people who don't share the hobby or endlessly pursue perfection that gets me.
@@Harrier42861 how's that any different from foodies going eww over a well done steak?
@@mechanicalmonk2020have you tried a well done steak? That stuff is dry. I don’t like it, but if you like it good for you.
@romnickrosario6048 Tried it, liked it, didn't find it dry or chewy. I've also had medium rare and medium well, really not that big a deal to me and I never find myself clamoring for a certain cook.
well tbf teflon’s not good for you, especially the scratched up ones which most people have
Refuses to accept the possibility of being pretentious as he loads coffee from a particle accelerator
LMFAO
Pretentious is when you buy nice things and use them, got it 🤦🏿♂️
"He's pretentious!"
Proceeds to get at him for doing things his way, and implying he should do things differently
@@mikewin7056 No, but spending in excess of 4k dollars on coffee equipment then filming yourself using it and posting it for millions to see is very pretentious 🤷🏾♂️
It's like saying "look at me paupers... my equipment is better than yours".
@@jghifiversveiws8729naw you’re insecure it’s not your money to be whining about.
Pretentious definition: attempting to impress by affecting greater importance.
Coffee is on of the top sold commodities, a natural product, and has many ways to be brewed to achieve certain flavors.
I am a coffee roaster myself, and the reason i love it is due to those many variables.
Many tools can help, but to a certain extent it becomes insignificant.
Personally, the freshness of the bean is the most important.
For the rest, it comes down to:
1.Type of roast
2.Temperature
3.Grind size
4.Water
Play with these variables and discover why there are so many things for coffee. Its not needed, but it can help.
As a coffee enthusiast, I get both sides. My go to method is the French press. It takes me 5 minutes to grind and brew and it's ready to drink.
The quality is as good as it gets.
Coffee enthusiasts love experimenting with equipments because it's more fun that way, with a touch of snobbery. It's not for everyone. It's definitely not practical for a busy person who just want a quick drink.
But that's common with a lot of things. Look at PC building nerds, Lego nerds, Fashion nerds, Telescope nerds.
I've never seen a Lego fan go to a child and say "your house looks awful, don't use those stones, have you even heard of advanced building techniques?" I hear with coffee condescenders constantly.
I'm not exactly an enthusiast, though I do the bare minimum and grind my beans myself. I prefer the AeroPress for its simplicity. And yes, I have a pour over set too, and it is fun, but more difficult and the results are no better.
My only hope is that people would learn enough about coffee to not need to douse the bitterness with sugar, etc.
I think the issue is less about coffee enthusiasts and more about how people like to gatekeep and feel superior to others in just about anything you can like doing in general. You see it all hobbies and jobs online where people just get kinda rude or nasty about a thing if you aren't at the same level of interest or investment that they are.
Agreed. Quite often I'm at the but of jokes because I turn down the sugary milk coffees, and abstain from office coffee made in a machine not cleaned since 1969.
“Man, I need a cup of coffee to finish my cup of coffee”
- and thus, the cycle repeat.
I would need a cup of coffee before even getting started with this contraption. 😂
i wish i could stand coffee because if i could i think i would absolutely be a pretentious coffee nerd
it just looks so theraputic and relaxing
In my own personal experience I have encounted vastly more people who complain about coffee snobs than people actually snobbish about coffee.
This is true of pretty much everything people accuse people of being snobs over.
Hell saying something is better when it objectively is will get you labeled as a pretentious snob by most people.
@@MarioLuigi0404”Lord of the Rings is a better book series than Diary of a wimpy kid”
“ugh book snob”
exactly, like this entire comment section XD
@@MarioLuigi0404 It's gotta be insecurity or something, like they think if someone is putting more time and effort than you would into something it must be because they think they're better than you.
Do people who disparage others for their coffee habits exist? Yes, but those aren't snobs, those are assholes, and they exist everywhere.
Same honestly, especially weirdly from people with their own issues w being a snop according to their standards so long one's not treating others like theyre lesser than for not liking a thing its fine but now its more people complaining abt how pretentious something is when someone is just enjoying themselves
The statement hit him so much, that he made this to confirm it
How did he confirm this
@@J4deR4bb1tby showing off his 80 different coffee assembling devices and giving a minute long speech on why coffee isn’t a item, it’s a way of life
dude hes just saying its a hobby and talking about what he's learned from having a hobby. Let people live lol@@hansofaxalia
@@hansofaxalia dude it's just a hobby it's not that fking deep you people are insane 💀
@@strawberrykitiit's a pretentious and lame hobby. Maybe lame is subjective but it's certainly pretentious by definition and the kid doubled down on this video.
I always asked my previous partner why she spent hours doing her makeup and how much time it seemed like was being wasted by doing it so articulately. She mentioned how it felt no different to her than doing art. I looked at makeup very differently after that and actually always felt happy when seeing her do it.
This video was a nice reminder that some people just love the process and I love that for them.
Nah shes just insecure and you called her on it 🤣
What a beautiful post! I definitely have fun doing my makeup and enjoy the process too 👌🏼
That's interesting, I also like to make art. First I chop up a gram of cocaine and then I accurately spread it onto a mirror in very even elongated portions, sometimes this can take hours but it makes me so happy. Then I just snort that shit
Yup, the funny thing is that the people that automatically make fun of coffee nerds, wine nerds, etc. are actually more pretentious themselves. They are essentially saying “you shouldn’t enjoy that hobby because I personally think it is stupid to be passionate about that”. Being pretentious means you have a feeling of superiority or arrogance over others, just being passionate about a niche subject is *not* pretentiousness at all.
@@DreamingSpaceOGso we should just do nothing to be normal?
I'd gladly be insecure then😊
I loooove coffee! Drink it everyday. I'm Colombian, so there's that. But it's not my hobby. That siphon, however, it's damned cool!