These prophets have had a corner on the prophetic for way to long. Just like our government it's time to expose and clean house with these prophets. Emma will stand in her obedience to Christ and what was spoken.
Thank you for your boldness. If we look at biblical history, we will dee that the consensus of "seasoned priests / prophets" are usually always wrong. Usually always prophesying contrary to the word of Yah.
There’s a lot of newer prophets who are trustworthy… Amanda Grace… and I’d trust her prophesy over Emma… she’s been hard on Trump… calling him to repent… but unlike Emma there’s always redemption… in judgement God always has mercy… it starts in Genesis 3…. Personally… I think Emma hates Trump
@KJ-lb4tj I can address this with a simple question. Where in scripture has a group (consensus) of prophets stood up against an individual prophet and were right ? I have many cases where the individual prophet is in the right e.g. Jeremaih, who brought the word of Yah's judgement whilst the consensus prophesied peace and safety.
I believe this is simply a changing of guards. The older prophets are being replaced and do not want to move. This is why they are only weighing Emma's word & not others due to offense. It doesn't help that many of them from the ACPE co-signed on her book becoming the voice of God. Until she stepped on their foot. I do think many of the ACPE is in idolatry, and this is why they can not divide this word correctly. Also who elected them? Emma is on a prophetic counsel too...
Overall a great balanced conversation! Emma & David Stark are a remarkable couple and 5th generation theologians. If people take time to go listen to the Power Hours or the What The Prophets Say podcasts and get to know her, then i feel you will be in a better to have conversation. I watched the ACPE and was apalled at the way they spoke about Emma, like you say without naming her etc, it was immature, very exposing of the group, who happened to meet up on 5th November. i wonder if they had not all been together in their conference, if all this would have been talked about so intently and in depth. im not saying we should not test everything etc, we should! please also go and take a look at what Emma Stark and GPA responded to the ACPE. finally Emma did explain that this was all going to led to harvest and salvations, it was more about what was going to happen and how God was going to redeem people.
I'm not American, but I lived in the USA for three years and I have American friends to this day. I loved the country and I still like the people. From what I saw as a foreigner, to be Christian in America means to be Republican. To be Republican means to be a Christian. There appears to be no separation of church and state/politics. When I read the ACPE's response, it only served to confirm my observation. For many Christians, Trump is a Cyrus figure. Maybe he is, but that doesn't mean God can't or won't judge him. The good news Emma Stark' brought was that in the midst of this chaos, the Lord will send 'harvest angels' to the USA.
Very wrong. I know lots of Republicans that are not Christian. I know Methodist Christians that been Farmers from the 1950s that vote Democrat. Its very complicated here, very nuanced. Im a zealous Christian and not a member of any party and vote Republicans sometimes when they have clear stances against abortions and keep voting record clear. Its very complicated, Americans have not had healthy leaders since 1966.
@@bcmchozeh Some would argue that 'Methodist' and 'Christian' don't belong in the same sentence, but I believe you when you say those you know are. But as for matters being complicated, it isn't really. I saw it myself when I lived there and I've seen it ever since. It's just the same as the rich (or want to be rich) here voting Conservative, and the poor (or those from working class backgrounds who aren't upwardly mobile) voting Labour. It doesn't mean that everyone follows that pattern. There are always exceptions, like yourself. But as trends, they're pretty undeniable. If you need any further evidence, watch as Trump milks that Republican/Christian alliance with his 'God bless America' Bible. There are smart people high up who know what they're doing to get hold of and retain power. As for Cindy Jacobs' response, it reeks of partisanship.
@@bcmchozeh Please forgive my comment about Methodists. I'm sure there are many that truly love the Lord. As for voting, I've given up. I used to be a floating voter like you, but here in the UK none of the parties have any decency about them. I really wish America all the best 🙏
If you are not Filled with The Holy Spirit you will not be able to discern The Truth. He Is The Spirit of Truth. All these people who are not called to be a prophet have no clue and should stay in their lane. Whether Emma heard from God isn't the point. A seasoned mature prophet would have not released this on the eve of an election with worldwide impact, especially without praying into it and seeking wise counsel. She rejected calls to proceed with caution. She's in rebellion and God considers the sin of rebellion as the sin of witchcraft. The word Emma brought caused confusion, disorder, and fractures in the body of Christ. God is not a God of confusion🙏
Look at Jennifer Leclaire's sit down with Sadu. They go over leviathan and the increased activity. Sam stated, no matter who was elected, certain evils would be released. God is allowing this for His reasons. Thank you for discussing this. Pray for the church, the body, the bride. Pray for Trump, pray for all leaders and nations. Its time to get to the work of our Lord Jesus. HE IS OUR FOCUS.
Clearly, Emma Starks' words about Donald Trump are filtered through media propaganda. Embarrassingly so on her part. This political season of the last 10 years has been eye-opening and a huge lesson in how God speaks and our own personal filters. If the body can learn from this, it's a great learning season.
Some have come out and called Kat Kerr a false prophet. I remember listening to her a few years ago and in one of her teachings, she said that if you question anything she says, you are wrong. RED FLAG What Emma is saying is also a RED FLAG. I will put names out there because they are putting their prophecies out for all to know.
Did you heard that from GOD..after you have fasted for about 3-10 days and submitted to prayer and spending time in HIS PRESENCE DAILY?? Asking for many who are reading your post.
Thank you for addressing this. I have been following Emma Stark since 2020 and I have much. As well as I have learned much from Patricia King in my early walk in Christianity. This has been miss understood and twisted as well as have many words before.I am concerned about the slander and division in the body of Christ. We should all judge prophecies but not the person giving it. What happened to going to the person directly and working it out.
In the video I watched put out by Cindy Jacobs, Bill Hamon, James Goll and a couple of others, she said that they did speak to “the person” (they did not name Emma) to ask them to rescind the word and they said they would not. Because of that, and the word being public, they felt a public response was necessary.
to be honest...I trust Stark's prophetic word more than American prophet's prophetic words.....Stark does not live in America so there is no bias from her part with the prophecy that came through her....American prophets I feel are influenced by media, culture and politics. American prophets prophetic words are biased as opposed to someone who doesnt live here....a prophetic word comes those not from here---not influenced by american culture and politics
Thank you! The condemnation of Emma Stark by ACPE feels like they are looking at a splinter through great logs in their own perspectives! I also wonder whether there is an element of closing their ears to criticism about the US, where the criticism comes from someone outside of the US (like, surely God would have told us!! How petulant and childish)
So Emma brought this dream about God punching President Trump. Perhaps she should had prayed and then when given release by God, she should have released the word. It seems that many prophets from other nations like to speak doom n gloom because of her sin. Well there are other nations that have done worse. I bless America and uproot every plan of the enemy towards America in Jesus Mighty Name. I also pray for President Trump that he would be in check with God. I pray protection over President Trump, his team n family as well as America in Jesus Mighty Name.
True. I think because her word weighs on their prophecies and who they are as prophets. This is why they reacted so strongly. They were defending their position as the only legitimate one.
All the prophecies Emma Stark released that I myself watched or came in contact with, let my spirit restless. There is definitely something underneath that needs addressing.
Hasn't this nation been known for its pride...? Haven't our politician people in government seen in them .we have all been wearing pride to some degree? Until God deals with us. God has dealt with me.
The thing I don’t understand about prophets is their negative releases over situations and people. I’m a mom and grandmother and I never release negative stuff over my kids. Why. Because I know they internalize it and it may happen. If you have all these prophets releasing negativity in the air than that will release negativity. I don’t think it’s God doing it. I just think he’s waiting for our prayers and words of faith to counteract it. I prayed and fasted and took authority over this election and it frustrates me when prophets who have way more authority than me undo it with critical and judgmental words that have no redemption tied to it
Thank you for this video. My feeling - if you are going to post a social prophetic word, don't get upset when the word is socially judged. We are called to judge prophecy. If you are proven wrong, you should definitely socially repent for it. Seems pretty simple.
OH MY GOSH. 😅 I left a comment last week after watching the first half of this video. I came back and finished it now and have to say: the second half is even better. Such a breath of fresh air.
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast very interesting. Just finished it. (The Kathryn Krick video?) It makes sense with the word I shared earlier this year. Although, if what was shared in your video was true, I think I was a little too gracious in my video. But I definitely heard that her mentor was bad and she needed to separate herself from him. Another thing I heard that I don’t know if I shared publicly or not was that if she didn’t correct things now, it would all end bad. After I released the video, she doubled down and immediately released content saying she would never separate from that guy. Obviously a bad move. 😢 Happy to have a conversation about it if you want to.
Man, God will judge him do you think in eight years of being persecuted the day he stepped down the elevator while being President and fulfilling many of his promises and then afterwards still being attacked along with his family that God is now after him to judge him? Sounds to me that God is being painted as one who is with unbalanced scales of justice. So all of those who used Law-fare the fbi and all the other politicians, biased judges, prosecutors, who attacked him shouldn’t be dealt with or are they all above the law? Not one of those people could’ve endured a quarter of all that he’s had to endure.
Emma Stark is a Prophetess for the nations. She came to my church two years ago in my hometown of Cochrane Alberta, Canada and wow...powerful and strong words; an admonishing for my (former) church with some serious witchcraft operating in the church and if repentance was not occurring amongst those who were operating in witchcraft as the “old guard,” of this church from its inception, and who would not step down and allow the new leadership to take over...would fall and your church will fall. Well folks, this church has fallen, just this past summer; zero repentance and one of the pastors shared his major sinful lifestyle he has been in for 30 plus years...with no repentance yet! His wife as well did not repent. The church has fallen apart. The “old guard,” is still trying to salvage their church, of which they started in the 70’s!!
You brothers say you don't know her teachings lot. I would recommend listening to her podcast: What the prophets say. Then you have more context of her words. Or listen to her youtube channel or read some books of her.
Actually- I’ve found Emma to be accurate and don’t share the ACPE’s concerns. I AM concerned about the ACPE though- where have they been during the controversies?
I don't think thats necessary. But it can help on understanding her theology and journey and intentions. That said, I think it would have been better to deliver the word with much more explanation. And also share their thoughts on how to pray in this situation. Time will tell if it was a word of The Lord. I sure appreciate your approach on it@@kingdomawakeningpodcast
Emma explains so much more in the episode mentioned above. Yes, you do need to listen to more. You won't be speaking half heartedly. Much more truth to be heard. She is definitely not left wing but very definitely Kingdom orientated. @kingdomawakeningpodcast I am not saying who is right or wrong but I look to the heart. Please if you are going to do commentary, get the full picture. Remember, the Father sees all.
I agree with yall why didn’t they ever speak uo on behalf of the great fall of Robert Morris or Mike Bickel and how the one from James Goll and Sharon Stone you just mentioned! It seems Emma was right on point now lol the insecurity and pride makes me wonder if she was prophesying this very thing!! Sad bc I love and have gleaned from so many of these Generals but I do believeGod is switching seats now …. Why are they coming so hard against Emma unless they’re insecure that’s what it seems like they’re afraid of the new!! I agree we need Teachers on this council and in 25 years never have addressed anyone or anything?? Very odd
My one comment on your position that the church should be reigning in politics is that this is a low level revelation on ruling and reigning. Using Israel as the example of what the church would ultimately become, Israel was supposed to be fully governed by God and His elected judges. But the people say “give us a king like all the other nations.” They go against God’s desire and for all intent and purpose say “give us the policies and politics of the other nations.” Rather, the solution instead is for us as prophetic people and the entire body of Christ, learning to actually go and ascend the hill of the Lord and go into His courtroom and start to legislate “on earth as it is in heaven.” Instead. This requires way more work, way more spiritual disciple and ultimately requires relationship with God. But that ultimately is what Emma as a prophet is provoking in the people. Instead of operating in authority as the church though, we’ve replaced it with influence and went so far as to say “if I get my righteous leader in office. I can rest easy tomorrow. I’ll have the ‘righteous’ president do the work.” And to that, Emma is cautiously saying “danger” to! Essentially to sum up, we should “render to Caesar what is Ceasar’s and render to God what is God’s.” If you feel lead to vote your conscience, by all means vote. But don’t see it as the solution. As God gives us as nations the leaders we deserve based on our own dependency or lack of dependency on Him.
I made some of these same points recently while commenting on one of the prophetic councils response to the prophecies . She removed my comment . Could it be that the trump Ideology is under fire ? They are also not on the same page . Some say she's a false prophet while some say it's her prophecies . It's not being handled very well in my opinion . I feel the entire American prophetic movement is under major reformation . Its creating a ton of confusion and that's what they're saying she is doing .
All the great prophets have prophesied President Trump would have 2 terms. Many were mocked for missing it in 2020. Obviously, not. Why would God punch his David in the mouth? Saying that, I think our nation is in for some rough times ahead, actually globally rough times ahead, then a great revival. (Hosea 5:15)
At first, I thought ACPE was talking Joshua Giles similar prophecy, and he had mentioned that he had received a lot of backlash for it. Now this video revealed that it was actually Emma Stark. I find it interesting that they would confront this, but where were they in 2020 after a great number of Prophets got the election wrong?
I am from Scotland. I do believe that God uses imperfect people to fulfill his purposes. You can see this with many biblical characters including King David. He can therefore use President elect Trump. Emma has ministered in America and has relationship with some of the prophets you mentioned.
You both need to go higher..Lance Wallnau. Called him God’s Chaos candidate..God is using him even in the church..God is looking for those who fear Him ..we can’t lean on the prophets,teachers or either of your statements sirs…the trust and direction will come from Him only
Destiny Image Blog, 8/29/24 article post. "The End-Time Voter: How to Stand Firm Amidst Political Chaos. Emma's book published by Destiny Image, Larry Sparks, "Prophets, Politics & Nations. Looks like a tower of babel on the cover. Emma called for prayer for Trump and i dont believe, nor have i ever heard her act or speak "left". We are not from this world, WE ARE KINGDOM.
Great point Jeff, I agree not sure we really have people that can give these national level prophesies. We need teachers it is so easy to think you heard the Lord. I love that you both are speaking of this.
Rick did not say that in the context of revelation rather in the context of having known Mike for decades. Also he apologized within a day or days for speaking before knowing more.
I hadn’t heard the apology, but I did hear his initial response. Nonetheless, Chris Reed was blocking for Mike Bickle (preventing Sam Storms and Francis Chan from meeting with him)
@@melanietravis6699 You do know God wiped out the earth's entire population, except for 8 people once, in the times of Noah, don't you? "And generally with seeing imagery like a "punch" , its an interpretive gesture, not literal.
Could you two guys identify yourselves please? I have spent the last 30 minutes trying to find out who you are and your quals. I found JonMark but not Jeff.
Bill Hamon has been teaching on the prophetic for decades. These people are sound and experienced. You have to hear the Spirit in which they speak compared to Emma. You are not authorities, sorry.
As a prophetic Intercessor of America the word is you must pray for your leaders as liken to Joseph with the favor of the Pharaoh..remember..even though Pharaoh was not the holiest leader but had a the good character, Joseph (the church), in his domain, so trust God who can do all things that can change the hearts of men by his sovereignty. If our current leadership is simply a babe in Christ or susceptible to the carnal vulnerabilities but savvy in the business of sharks or political men, well all are just mere man. However, God knocks down or lifts up who he wants but it is written that we are only seeing and living a rerun of all God has already seen and the overall Kingdom of God's complete victory of the work of Jesus Christ. Praise God, saints.
I heard Kim Clement say once that when he would get a word that he had to decide if it was from himself, the enemy or the Holy Spirit as prophetic words can from come from any of these sources.
I agree with that, voices we hear spiritually are either our own, the enemy, or the Lord. I would say that the only ones that we can legitimately “prophetic” are from the Lord.
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast And another thought I think that goes along with this is - unless we can hear Him say 'no' then we will never be able to hear Him say 'yes'. In other words we have to be able to get our own biases out of the way before we have a clean filter for the HS to speak through. That is sometimes hard to do.
I am thoroughly right wing (even tho the entire bird is pretty sick right now) and have been watching Emma for several years. I have never heard her ever say anything noticeably left wing. Furthermore, she has repeatedly stated that she does not get involved with politics, in order to keep her ‘ear’ sensitive to the Lords words only. *Very much appreciate this fair, balanced and considered discussion. Well done guys👌
No one is Looking at him as a savior but a lot Christian’s maybe you look at doctors to save you. God uses his people. He is not that jerky to not share the spotlight. I don’t workshop Trump but he is allowing God to use him.
A significant number of Christians use words like anointed and chosen to describe Trump without realizing that this is a political process, not a biblical one. Politicians are politicians, they aren’t spiritual leaders but this response tells me that too many in America have confused the two and have merged categories that should never be merged.
This conflict is great because it shows that people prophesy 'out of their theological" background. It is clear that some are fully kingdom now and other are not in the kindom now world of view...
If you are going to comment and blame a prophet for being false you could at least know who she is and know her history and her walk with God before condemning her.
For this we understand people who have need to be politically correct will not say what or do all GOD says. Now those of us that have nothing to lose like our reputation Dod can trust, with a hard word
I suggest you check on pastor Steve Cicolanti . I am not saying he is perfect, but at least he is honest. He is speaking truth without apology. He stated very well in Christianity how they judge right and wrongs. Very pertinent.
God divorced Israel, His own special possession, who were overrun and taken into captivity, so why would there not be chaos and lawlessness as a result of judgement on a nation or nations? The prophets are agreed that the world is in an era of war and judgement, so do we get to tell God what form that judgement will take. Yes, He is a loving God, but He will not share His glory with any other.
You guys really should do your research. You said in your last video that Emma’s original video has been taken down and that is not true. The full prophesy is still there as well as further explanations and other episodes. I’m not saying I’m for or against it. I’m just saying you should do your research before saying it’s been taken down because that isn’t true. And I do believe people should watch all the episodes in their entirety for appropriate context and make a judgement based off proper discernment, not a few bits and pieces of other people’s clips.
Also, videos were removed that were referenced in the ACPE notes (it wasn’t the God Punched Trump video). Hard to do research on “what you can’t find anymore”.
Hebrews 1:1-2 (NIV): "In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe." This passage highlights the shift from God speaking through prophets to speaking through Jesus Christ, who is seen as the ultimate revelation of God's will. The Transition to Jesus Fulfillment: Many Christians believe that Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament and provided a complete revelation of God's love and plan for humanity. Direct Revelation: Through Jesus' teachings, life, death, and resurrection, Christians believe they have direct access to God's message and salvation.
Acts 21:10- Agabus is a New Testament prophet. Ephesians 4:11 “And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers” Yes God has revealed Himself perfectly through the life of Jesus. However that is an incorrect exegesis to suggests prophets ceased after Christ’s appearance on Earth.
Hello, I am a child of the most high and this is a new day, old things have passed away and behold the new has come, America ihave two nations in it because they have feed that spirit soooo long that THEY TRULY STARTED TO BELIEVE THAT GOD IS LIKE THEM THEY FORGOT THAT GOD IS NOT A GOD OF WRATH AS WELL AS LOVE.
Maybe some confusion on what is revelation for "prophecy" and what is revelation for another purpose such as for prayer and intercession? Maybe a lack of understanding of what is prophecy in relation to a NT understanding?
Cindy Jacobs has mentored Emma and she called and talked to her after this prophesy so there is at least some what of a relationship. Assuming things is where we get in trouble.
CINDY JACOBS..SPOKE OUT against Emma Stark too. Jacobs is a STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF TRUMP! This fact disqualifies her prophecy ..Jacobs did not BRING CORRECTION TO ANY PROPHET IN HER PROPHETIC CIRCLE. when all they were Prophesying ABOUT TRUMP..fir 2020..didnt happen. Emma Stark is on POINT. When God begins to unfold what HE HAS Said..to Emma Stark comes to pass..they will all be SILENT.
Thanks so much! Love this and first time too but I like the way you both analysed it. Will be watching part one immediately after. ❤❤I particularly connect to the young man in black as I share same views!❤Much love to you and family as I follow Emma but my spirit didn’t resonate with that particularly prophecy but that doesn’t mean she is false or any of ACPE but God knows who really is speaking for HIM!
Did the 1st. Century apostle s in the book of ACTS ever pray against a leviathan spirit. Please stop the craziness. We all know there are demons, why name them.
Prophecy is a Person, not a gift. It is an internal virtue not accuracy or external encouraging. These guys dont build walls with jasper and sardinx stone with the Word, they talk about seeing but never see the Heart of God in His Son. "THE PROPHETIC MINISTRY IS DEAD IN THE HEART OF GOD."~TB. Here ye My son,
I began listening to Emma during the pandemic and at that time she was a lifeline for me. I learned a lot from her and I honor her for that. But, I noticed a pattern after watching Power Hour for over a hundred episodes. She spent a great deal of time on the demonic and there were many, many times she had negative things to say about the West in general and USA in particular. I just could not be fed the more negative prophetic teachings each time I listened so I had to move on. Also, do not be too quick to criticize the early mothers and fathers of the prophetic. They have paid a price for being pioneers and they just might have more wisdom than you think. Last word, we are all a part of the body of Christ and we all make mistakes but we better understand we are family and we should honor and love everyone in our eternal family.
I would say they definitely have more wisdom than we do… but I also think we have a hierarchical system in the prophetic movement that has unduly promoted some of them and they are subject to the same character flaws as the rest of us. We want to their spiritual contributions and wisdom without overemphasizing to the point of worshipping people (hopefully avoiding future IHOP debacles)
Absolutely well done guys. Just one thing, did God want Israel to vote who would be king over them? No God wanted to be their king through the priests and prophets. Does this mean we shouldn't vote? Of course not, but we need to recognise God does amazing things no matter how is in charge. God did amazing things while the children of Israel were in exile. That was so God would be seen as doing it. Again we know God will judge those who are in charge of exile and the systems of exile. This is all biblical. Daniel prophesied it in Daniel 7. This is all reflected in Revalidation. Who are the people of the saints? That's the church guys. Daniel 7 says there will be a shift from God backing political kingdoms and give it to the church under Christ. This is biblical and what God will do. This is not opinion. Now is this happening now? This really should be what we are asking ourselves? Are we to stay in Babalon? Has God said stay in exile and prosper? He did say this to the children of Israel and spoke against those who said to fight and go back to Zion. What epoch of time are we in? Exile or Zion? If exile then the systems of man will stand and God will bless us under them. If Zion then the systems of man, no matter how bible influenced they are, no matter how many bible believing councilors they have, these systems will crumble like the statue in the dream of the king of Babalon. There will come and mighty rock to smash the feet of the statue. The 4th beast will loose it's power and it will be given to the people of the saints. However you look at it the day will come. It's totally biblical. This is the revelation of Christ. This is the church He builds. From Daniel to revelation Christ is seen. It's just we need to as God what season are we in. Are we in exile as He has ordained and need to thrive where He put us or are we being shifted into Zion and need to recognise our new position in Him?
That’s why I don’t understand why they say so many people were freaked out by Emma’s prophecy. I heard it, didn’t agree with it all, but thought “I guess we’ll see”. Perhaps a sign that so many in the church don’t know how to weigh prophecy or a sign Trump is an idol 🤷🏻♀️
Not gonna lie- I have a few. Now THAT would be a sad day- to be all prepped up and the day you need to set the tribulation table just to find that the Rapture Rations had expired!
Yes, the shoe is on the other shoe 😅 I have received lots of warning dreams but I tend not to release it the way l get it to prevent fear but think about the prophets in the Bible, they say it the way the Lord released it. Not sure which way is better?
This is very sad. Words have to be looked up to understand what they mean. Its never what the face initial meaning is. Its so much more. When you look up in Hebrew the wirds ounch snd face. The numerology of thkse words, its a stunningly accurate word. The verse is Psalms 27:7-9.
No to the Nar group. I am done with them. Before I started growing in the LORD I was mixed up with those guys. Discernment is a must. If you don't have it dear friends, ask JESUS for it. There are so many false prophets if that is what they call themselves. The enemy is working over time and using whoever will let him. Walk with JESUS daily and don't get trapped in a cesspool of false prophets. JESUS is KING. They are not good to follow. Blessings 🤗🫶❤️
@kingdomawakeningpodcast I think he is part of it. I personally stay away from that group of people. They think they are a group of elite in the body of CHRIST. In Matthew 24:4 the first thing JESUS said was ... Take heed that no man deceives you. Discernment is so very important to have. Before I got serious about serving JESUS I followed that group and their teachings. It all seems good but you have to dig deeper in their beliefs and discern what their teachings are all about. Blessings 🤗❤️
Her word on Trump was right. To understand you have to look up the words in Hebrew. Look up punch and face. Its not what people think. It showed a pride response from prophets here but her word about Trump isnt what they think.
I have had some things I have seen, heard but just be quiet and pray. I may share with one person..and ask what do you think. I write them done and they stay there.
I was offended, I watch Sid Roth and love and appreciate him but I couldn't watch that. James Goll went publicly supporting Harris and spoke against Mario Murrilos tent revival just as it was getting ready for the first night in California. Goll said Mario's revival shouldn't happen if I remember right. Either way it was bad enough that Mario publicly spoke about it and the televised James Goll then he sits on a committee talking about what a prophet said. Hypocrite!!!! He turns my stomach. The Lord is cleaning His House the Church He spoke to me and maybe this is part of the exposure not so much Emma we all make mistakes and I have no comment on that my concern is someone who represents both sides life and death!!!!
Also, like many, God spoke that He chose President Trump. This is so obvious in this election, what Trump stands for, and even the way President Trump is speaking, glorifying the Lord. All glory be to God.
Yes and that is the part I disagree with Emma’s word on: that she says Trump is partnered with an antichrist spirit. I would suggest that is more true of the alternative (although personally suspicious of Elon Musk)
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast yes I am suspicious of Elon to. God may have only allowed it for a time. Timothy Dixon a few days ago warned there is a judas in the presence of Trump having dinner and close with family. Maybe it is Elon I almost want to say that it is. That is resonating with me right now.
27 years in the prophetic as a Seer and I walked from my calling. The whole prophetic movement is garbage. I called out Chris Reed in the comments section for Remnant Radio. I said I saw darkness over him, I wasn't sure what is was exactly but I knew he was someone to stay clear from. Two years later he came out admitting to a adulterous affair. I just have to look at someone and I just know. It freaks people out and makes having friends difficult lol. My advice to any believer is stay away from these "prophets" seriously I seen their destruction and their witchcraft. Now you have African witchcraft coming through these deliverance ministries OMG! are you serious!!! How stupid!!! blind!!! Can you be? Thankfully Abenago lufie is exposing it but these charismatic prophets won't say anything but again they're a bunch of Balaams.
@kingdomawakeningpodcast I realize it is a spiritual meaning, but it is also wrong. Do you all know how many unknown prophets and prophetic messengers there is in the world? We don't have podcasts, we see, hear, and Pray as led. I have watched the correction from the prophetic council from the US. They are right. You were attempting to speak judgement over another nation, very carelessly. You missed the heartbeat of that nation, the deep cry for help to the Father not get Kamala. DT is a new believer, your team seems to have missed that. His is not his past. He is learning and still making mistakes. But his past is public, yours is not. This was a Miracle! A land slide miracle. It was mercy, grace, not judgement. DT's team that has been put together has God in it. It isn't perfect but God is in it. Kamala wanted to build Gotham City. No one is worshipping him, no one is putting all their trust in him?? They got a miracle leader in a spiritual battle against anti christ politics. That doesn't make anyone more political than spiritual. It makes us desperate and crying out to our Father!! Emma and team did not get this one right, Cindy Jacob's team of 60, weighed it, measured it, and got it right.🥰🌻
Aww I really hoped your first comment was sarcastic 😢 As we said in the episode- we have issues with Emma’s (and yes we recognize God isn’t done with Trump) word as well, but the reasons for ACPE going public only added confusion rather than brought clarity.
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast The ACPE did amazing! So thankful for their response. Emma brought a very serious word to another nation in a very careless way. I noticed my comment is gone outlining it all?? Controlling UA-cam comments is quite strange?? Emma is going to be a quiet lamb now? Okay that works. This is very serious, a 6 generation Christian lineage doesn't fix this. One must pray about what prophetic to release or just pray for. And if spoken, how is it made digestible to who it is going? Many difficult words are for prayer and intercession. If one is a called true prophet to the nations, the word is usually redemptive like the letters to the churches in Revelations. That prophet to the nations has prayed and prayed and heard how it is handled.This was not handled well and has bad fruit because of of it.
GOD IS PUNCHING ALL IDOLS IN THE FACE, PEOPLE CAN LIKE IT OR NOT, AND NONE IS RIGHT BUT GOD, WHY MUST THE BODY TALK AND ACT LIKE THE WORLD. FOR THIS SOME SO CALLED CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE THOUGHT THEY WERE THE ONLY VOICE OF GOD TIME IS OVER. WHY BECAUSE GOD KNOWS WHO HE CAN TRUST IN THIS HOUR.
Has the political arena and the political spirit clouded our filter? My. Main concern with all of this is not so much was that a false word? Was it an accurate word? My stance right now is about how this council has responded. Or should I say reacted? I have seen prophets and Apostolic councils, pastoral councils sweep even more serious sins under the rug have taken their time in responding to those sins. Coming out with an official statement. You guys as a counsel of prophetic elders like threw down the hammer before there were conversations even had. It just doesn't sound like you went through a due process and talked things over and to hear their hearts. And you guys have been in relationship with Emma and her team in the past. But yet you haven't had the courtesy to talk with them. They heard about your letter about your statement second hand not from you guys. Where is the love of Christ in this whole process? If a process has to be done because it was an inaccurate word fine, but there should have been grace and a move to preserve relationship and extend love in this situation. And I feel like you guys have missed that mark sorely..
These prophets have had a corner on the prophetic for way to long. Just like our government it's time to expose and clean house with these prophets. Emma will stand in her obedience to Christ and what was spoken.
Thank you for your boldness. If we look at biblical history, we will dee that the consensus of "seasoned priests / prophets" are usually always wrong. Usually always prophesying contrary to the word of Yah.
There’s a lot of newer prophets who are trustworthy… Amanda Grace… and I’d trust her prophesy over Emma… she’s been hard on Trump… calling him to repent… but unlike Emma there’s always redemption… in judgement God always has mercy… it starts in Genesis 3…. Personally… I think Emma hates Trump
@@JK-vp6poyeah?, which biblical prophets and prophecies? Because there are also plenty that do come to pass. So I'm not sure how this relates
@KJ-lb4tj I can address this with a simple question. Where in scripture has a group (consensus) of prophets stood up against an individual prophet and were right ? I have many cases where the individual prophet is in the right e.g. Jeremaih, who brought the word of Yah's judgement whilst the consensus prophesied peace and safety.
Read 1 Corinthians 14:29…32-33.. and verse 3…don’t pick and choose… what tickles your ear
I believe this is simply a changing of guards. The older prophets are being replaced and do not want to move. This is why they are only weighing Emma's word & not others due to offense. It doesn't help that many of them from the ACPE co-signed on her book becoming the voice of God. Until she stepped on their foot. I do think many of the ACPE is in idolatry, and this is why they can not divide this word correctly. Also who elected them? Emma is on a prophetic counsel too...
I agree 100%
Patricia King is a STAUNCH TRUMP SUPPORTER..as with the others that are trying to rebuke Prophetess Emma Stark
Overall a great balanced conversation! Emma & David Stark are a remarkable couple and 5th generation theologians. If people take time to go listen to the Power Hours or the What The Prophets Say podcasts and get to know her, then i feel you will be in a better to have conversation. I watched the ACPE and was apalled at the way they spoke about Emma, like you say without naming her etc, it was immature, very exposing of the group, who happened to meet up on 5th November. i wonder if they had not all been together in their conference, if all this would have been talked about so intently and in depth. im not saying we should not test everything etc, we should! please also go and take a look at what Emma Stark and GPA responded to the ACPE. finally Emma did explain that this was all going to led to harvest and salvations, it was more about what was going to happen and how God was going to redeem people.
Yep we’ve seen it and felt that Emma (at least publicly) seems to have handled herself with integrity
@kingdomawakeningpodcast are all the prophet on the ACPE voting Republican???
🙌 agree!😊
I'm not American, but I lived in the USA for three years and I have American friends to this day. I loved the country and I still like the people. From what I saw as a foreigner, to be Christian in America means to be Republican. To be Republican means to be a Christian. There appears to be no separation of church and state/politics. When I read the ACPE's response, it only served to confirm my observation. For many Christians, Trump is a Cyrus figure. Maybe he is, but that doesn't mean God can't or won't judge him. The good news Emma Stark' brought was that in the midst of this chaos, the Lord will send 'harvest angels' to the USA.
Very wrong. I know lots of Republicans that are not Christian. I know Methodist Christians that been Farmers from the 1950s that vote Democrat. Its very complicated here, very nuanced. Im a zealous Christian and not a member of any party and vote Republicans sometimes when they have clear stances against abortions and keep voting record clear. Its very complicated, Americans have not had healthy leaders since 1966.
@@bcmchozeh Some would argue that 'Methodist' and 'Christian' don't belong in the same sentence, but I believe you when you say those you know are. But as for matters being complicated, it isn't really. I saw it myself when I lived there and I've seen it ever since. It's just the same as the rich (or want to be rich) here voting Conservative, and the poor (or those from working class backgrounds who aren't upwardly mobile) voting Labour. It doesn't mean that everyone follows that pattern. There are always exceptions, like yourself. But as trends, they're pretty undeniable. If you need any further evidence, watch as Trump milks that Republican/Christian alliance with his 'God bless America' Bible. There are smart people high up who know what they're doing to get hold of and retain power. As for Cindy Jacobs' response, it reeks of partisanship.
@christophervalkenburg2997 I know nobody that digs any of these prophetic guys. The whole movement is DEAD.
@@bcmchozeh Please forgive my comment about Methodists. I'm sure there are many that truly love the Lord. As for voting, I've given up. I used to be a floating voter like you, but here in the UK none of the parties have any decency about them. I really wish America all the best 🙏
I had the exact same thought about needing the fear of the Lord, but then denouncing anything that brings the fear of the Lord.
Surely the interpretation of Emma Stark's word by the group of prophetic elders is distorted by the leviathan spirit. Who can say they are immune?
Good point
Exactly
If you are not Filled with The Holy Spirit you will not be able to discern The Truth. He Is The Spirit of Truth. All these people who are not called to be a prophet have no clue and should stay in their lane.
Whether Emma heard from God isn't the point. A seasoned mature prophet would have not released this on the eve of an election with worldwide impact, especially without praying into it and seeking wise counsel. She rejected calls to proceed with caution. She's in rebellion and God considers the sin of rebellion as the sin of witchcraft. The word Emma brought caused confusion, disorder, and fractures in the body of Christ. God is not a God of confusion🙏
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Look at Jennifer Leclaire's sit down with Sadu. They go over leviathan and the increased activity. Sam stated, no matter who was elected, certain evils would be released. God is allowing this for His reasons. Thank you for discussing this. Pray for the church, the body, the bride. Pray for Trump, pray for all leaders and nations. Its time to get to the work of our Lord Jesus. HE IS OUR FOCUS.
This is the same that Jermiah Johnson said, but they are not challenging them. In fact, these men seem to be confirming Emma 😆 🤣 it's ridiculous 🙄.
@@shenquejames7598 Johnson = do not like. He may also be false.
JENNIFER LE CLAIRE is a STAUNCH TRUMP SUPPORTER!
Clearly, Emma Starks' words about Donald Trump are filtered through media propaganda. Embarrassingly so on her part. This political season of the last 10 years has been eye-opening and a huge lesson in how God speaks and our own personal filters. If the body can learn from this, it's a great learning season.
Some have come out and called Kat Kerr a false prophet. I remember listening to her a few years ago and in one of her teachings, she said that if you question anything she says, you are wrong. RED FLAG What Emma is saying is also a RED FLAG. I will put names out there because they are putting their prophecies out for all to know.
Did you heard that from GOD..after you have fasted for about 3-10 days and submitted to prayer and spending time in HIS PRESENCE DAILY?? Asking for many who are reading your post.
Thank you for addressing this. I have been following Emma Stark since 2020 and I have much. As well as I have learned much from Patricia King in my early walk in Christianity. This has been miss understood and twisted as well as have many words before.I am concerned about the slander and division in the body of Christ. We should all judge prophecies but not the person giving it. What happened to going to the person directly and working it out.
Exactly, yes!! 👍👍👍
In the video I watched put out by Cindy Jacobs, Bill Hamon, James Goll and a couple of others, she said that they did speak to “the person” (they did not name Emma) to ask them to rescind the word and they said they would not. Because of that, and the word being public, they felt a public response was necessary.
to be honest...I trust Stark's prophetic word more than American prophet's prophetic words.....Stark does not live in America so there is no bias from her part with the prophecy that came through her....American prophets I feel are influenced by media, culture and politics. American prophets prophetic words are biased as opposed to someone who doesnt live here....a prophetic word comes those not from here---not influenced by american culture and politics
EXACTLY!!
Apparently, you don’t understand the influence they are under, by the media in their countries. It’s extraordinary.
I agree
I've never listened to your broadcast before, thank you for being so thoughtful and sincere.
Thanks for listening
Thank you! The condemnation of Emma Stark by ACPE feels like they are looking at a splinter through great logs in their own perspectives! I also wonder whether there is an element of closing their ears to criticism about the US, where the criticism comes from someone outside of the US (like, surely God would have told us!! How petulant and childish)
So Emma brought this dream about God punching President Trump. Perhaps she should had prayed and then when given release by God, she should have released the word. It seems that many prophets from other nations like to speak doom n gloom because of her sin. Well there are other nations that have done worse. I bless America and uproot every plan of the enemy towards America in Jesus Mighty Name. I also pray for President Trump that he would be in check with God. I pray protection over President Trump, his team n family as well as America in Jesus Mighty Name.
Amen
God you all are doing this !! The double standard in this exposing is crazy!!! I believe there is a an offense that has taking place and here we are !
Amen
True. I think because her word weighs on their prophecies and who they are as prophets. This is why they reacted so strongly. They were defending their position as the only legitimate one.
All the prophecies Emma Stark released that I myself watched or came in contact with, let my spirit restless. There is definitely something underneath that needs addressing.
It's not a left and right issue, it's an endtimes issue
Yes!!! Please! That was my only problem with this.
Hasn't this nation been known for its pride...? Haven't our politician people in government seen in them .we have all been wearing pride to some degree? Until God deals with us. God has dealt with me.
That’s a prideful statement…
We must look at the times and seasons we are currently in, and see patterns from the past with wise discernment
Its such a shame that Patricia King has added her voice to this slander
Hey guys, contact Emma to ask her these questions. Straight from the source…
We reached out
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast she has given more explanation on her War Room podcasts.
Yes and released a public statement
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast Do you have a link to the public statement pls?
The thing I don’t understand about prophets is their negative releases over situations and people. I’m a mom and grandmother and I never release negative stuff over my kids. Why. Because I know they internalize it and it may happen. If you have all these prophets releasing negativity in the air than that will release negativity. I don’t think it’s God doing it. I just think he’s waiting for our prayers and words of faith to counteract it. I prayed and fasted and took authority over this election and it frustrates me when prophets who have way more authority than me undo it with critical and judgmental words that have no redemption tied to it
Scripture is clear on this topic. If their are Prophets amongst you, let one prophesy and let the others judge.( 1Cor14:29).
Much intercession went into this. Why would God hear our prayers and than remove the president.
Exactly… she’s a trump hater
Fair question
There is a long record in Scripture of anointed kings being removed. Anointing does not equate with licence, nor does intercession.
The pale cried to God for a king and God gave them saw who ended up doing evil in God’s sight
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How is this a controversy there is so much absurdity coming from the Prophetic Movement its ridiculous this is just one example among Hundreds
Just seems to be because one group decided to emphasize one particular word
Thank you for this video. My feeling - if you are going to post a social prophetic word, don't get upset when the word is socially judged. We are called to judge prophecy. If you are proven wrong, you should definitely socially repent for it. Seems pretty simple.
Yup
OH MY GOSH. 😅 I left a comment last week after watching the first half of this video. I came back and finished it now and have to say: the second half is even better. Such a breath of fresh air.
lol - welcome back
Curious to hear your thoughts on the latest episode
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast very interesting. Just finished it. (The Kathryn Krick video?) It makes sense with the word I shared earlier this year. Although, if what was shared in your video was true, I think I was a little too gracious in my video.
But I definitely heard that her mentor was bad and she needed to separate herself from him.
Another thing I heard that I don’t know if I shared publicly or not was that if she didn’t correct things now, it would all end bad.
After I released the video, she doubled down and immediately released content saying she would never separate from that guy. Obviously a bad move. 😢
Happy to have a conversation about it if you want to.
Man, God will judge him do you think in eight years of being persecuted the day he stepped down the elevator while being President and fulfilling many of his promises and then afterwards still being attacked along with his family that God is now after him to judge him? Sounds to me that God is being painted as one who is with unbalanced scales of justice. So all of those who used Law-fare the fbi and all the other politicians, biased judges, prosecutors, who attacked him shouldn’t be dealt with or are they all above the law? Not one of those people could’ve endured a quarter of all that he’s had to endure.
Emma Stark is a Prophetess for the nations. She came to my church two years ago in my hometown of Cochrane Alberta, Canada and wow...powerful and strong words; an admonishing for my (former) church with some serious witchcraft operating in the church and if repentance was not occurring amongst those who were operating in witchcraft as the “old guard,” of this church from its inception, and who would not step down and allow the new leadership to take over...would fall and your church will fall. Well folks, this church has fallen, just this past summer; zero repentance and one of the pastors shared his major sinful lifestyle he has been in for 30 plus years...with no repentance yet! His wife as well did not repent. The church has fallen apart. The “old guard,” is still trying to salvage their church, of which they started in the 70’s!!
You think a Prophet is about giving words?
You brothers say you don't know her teachings lot. I would recommend listening to her podcast: What the prophets say. Then you have more context of her words. Or listen to her youtube channel or read some books of her.
Do you think that’s necessary to judge a prophetic word? (I did say in part 1 that I don’t have the same issues with the context of her word)
Actually- I’ve found Emma to be accurate and don’t share the ACPE’s concerns. I AM concerned about the ACPE though- where have they been during the controversies?
I don't think thats necessary. But it can help on understanding her theology and journey and intentions. That said, I think it would have been better to deliver the word with much more explanation. And also share their thoughts on how to pray in this situation. Time will tell if it was a word of The Lord. I sure appreciate your approach on it@@kingdomawakeningpodcast
Emma explains so much more in the episode mentioned above. Yes, you do need to listen to more. You won't be speaking half heartedly. Much more truth to be heard. She is definitely not left wing but very definitely Kingdom orientated. @kingdomawakeningpodcast I am not saying who is right or wrong but I look to the heart. Please if you are going to do commentary, get the full picture. Remember, the Father sees all.
I agree with yall why didn’t they ever speak uo on behalf of the great fall of Robert Morris or Mike Bickel and how the one from James Goll and Sharon Stone you just mentioned! It seems Emma was right on point now lol the insecurity and pride makes me wonder if she was prophesying this very thing!! Sad bc I love and have gleaned from so many of these Generals but I do believeGod is switching seats now …. Why are they coming so hard against Emma unless they’re insecure that’s what it seems like they’re afraid of the new!! I agree we need Teachers on this council and in 25 years never have addressed anyone or anything?? Very odd
Seems to be just because she mentioned Trump
My one comment on your position that the church should be reigning in politics is that this is a low level revelation on ruling and reigning. Using Israel as the example of what the church would ultimately become, Israel was supposed to be fully governed by God and His elected judges. But the people say “give us a king like all the other nations.” They go against God’s desire and for all intent and purpose say “give us the policies and politics of the other nations.” Rather, the solution instead is for us as prophetic people and the entire body of Christ, learning to actually go and ascend the hill of the Lord and go into His courtroom and start to legislate “on earth as it is in heaven.” Instead. This requires way more work, way more spiritual disciple and ultimately requires relationship with God. But that ultimately is what Emma as a prophet is provoking in the people.
Instead of operating in authority as the church though, we’ve replaced it with influence and went so far as to say “if I get my righteous leader in office. I can rest easy tomorrow. I’ll have the ‘righteous’ president do the work.” And to that, Emma is cautiously saying “danger” to!
Essentially to sum up, we should “render to Caesar what is Ceasar’s and render to God what is God’s.” If you feel lead to vote your conscience, by all means vote. But don’t see it as the solution. As God gives us as nations the leaders we deserve based on our own dependency or lack of dependency on Him.
Thank you for giving a more balanced viewpoint, especially that their over -reaction is exposing themselves
Emma prophesied about Mike Bickel stuff happening and they know she’s accurate that’s why they mad at her and want to put her in her place
Do you have a link to that? I’d be interested to see that word
Exactly such a display of Jezebellic control slime and slander it’s vile
I made some of these same points recently while commenting on one of the prophetic councils response to the prophecies . She removed my comment . Could it be that the trump Ideology is under fire ? They are also not on the same page . Some say she's a false prophet while some say it's her prophecies . It's not being handled very well in my opinion . I feel the entire American prophetic movement is under major reformation . Its creating a ton of confusion and that's what they're saying she is doing .
I agree- and the prophetic movement has needed reformation
All the great prophets have prophesied President Trump would have 2 terms. Many were mocked for missing it in 2020. Obviously, not. Why would God punch his David in the mouth? Saying that, I think our nation is in for some rough times ahead, actually globally rough times ahead, then a great revival. (Hosea 5:15)
At first, I thought ACPE was talking Joshua Giles similar prophecy, and he had mentioned that he had received a lot of backlash for it. Now this video revealed that it was actually Emma Stark. I find it interesting that they would confront this, but where were they in 2020 after a great number of Prophets got the election wrong?
I am from Scotland. I do believe that God uses imperfect people to fulfill his purposes. You can see this with many biblical characters including King David. He can therefore use President elect Trump. Emma has ministered in America and has relationship with some of the prophets you mentioned.
Some of whom are now labeling her as “false” which I do not agree with
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast They did not label her as a false prophet just the word she gave
You both need to go higher..Lance Wallnau. Called him God’s Chaos candidate..God is using him even in the church..God is looking for those who fear Him ..we can’t lean on the prophets,teachers or either of your statements sirs…the trust and direction will come from Him only
I'm not sure why Patricia is involved with these other prophets. Hoping she will separate herself to be a continued pure voice of the Lord.
I think she thinks they are like her. Since some of them came before her.
Destiny Image Blog, 8/29/24 article post. "The End-Time Voter: How to Stand Firm Amidst Political Chaos. Emma's book published by Destiny Image, Larry Sparks, "Prophets, Politics & Nations. Looks like a tower of babel on the cover. Emma called for prayer for Trump and i dont believe, nor have i ever heard her act or speak "left". We are not from this world, WE ARE KINGDOM.
Great point Jeff, I agree not sure we really have people that can give these national level prophesies. We need teachers it is so easy to think you heard the Lord. I love that you both are speaking of this.
Thank you so much!
I think even in the judgment or testing...of all of this...we need ALL of Jesus. That means 5 fold ministry judging/testing .. in unity
about 16 Israeli Prophets in the Bible, how many are there now?
Rick did not say that in the context of revelation rather in the context of having known Mike for decades. Also he apologized within a day or days for speaking before knowing more.
I hadn’t heard the apology, but I did hear his initial response. Nonetheless, Chris Reed was blocking for Mike Bickle (preventing Sam Storms and Francis Chan from meeting with him)
I feel for those of us who are just learning! 😮
Really good points 😊
thanks @TroyBlack
Aren’t we supposed to pray for our leaders and not judge them. Leave that up to God
Emma encouraged that
If you have spiritual discernment, you will know that there is something off with Emma’s word. Test the spirit!
But do you agree with this response to her word?
@@kingdomawakeningpodcastI don’t believe God would punch anyone…
It was prophetic imagery (not meant literally)
Would He make someone blind?...Maybe someone from Tarsis?.@@melanietravis6699
@@melanietravis6699 You do know God wiped out the earth's entire population, except for 8 people once, in the times of Noah, don't you? "And generally with seeing imagery like a "punch" , its an interpretive gesture, not literal.
Could you two guys identify yourselves please? I have spent the last 30 minutes trying to find out who you are and your quals. I found JonMark but not Jeff.
What “quals” are you looking for?
Bill Hamon has been teaching on the prophetic for decades. These people are sound and experienced. You have to hear the Spirit in which they speak compared to Emma. You are not authorities, sorry.
But isn’t the Bible the authority on testing words?
Bill Hamon is now 90 years old. He is an authority, but some of the others have not been proven and have missed many prophesies.
That's what I see .the blind spot. Yes there are people who hold him up. I agree with you.
They need to get together. ..and talk.
First time watching...Really level and honest, convo and insight. I am looking forward to more! Blessings!
Awesome! Thank you!
As a prophetic Intercessor of America the word is you must pray for your leaders as liken to Joseph with the favor of the Pharaoh..remember..even though Pharaoh was not the holiest leader but had a the good character, Joseph (the church), in his domain, so trust God who can do all things that can change the hearts of men by his sovereignty. If our current leadership is simply a babe in Christ or susceptible to the carnal vulnerabilities but savvy in the business of sharks or political men, well all are just mere man. However, God knocks down or lifts up who he wants but it is written that we are only seeing and living a rerun of all God has already seen and the overall Kingdom of God's complete victory of the work of Jesus Christ. Praise God, saints.
I heard Kim Clement say once that when he would get a word that he had to decide if it was from himself, the enemy or the Holy Spirit as prophetic words can from come from any of these sources.
I agree with that, voices we hear spiritually are either our own, the enemy, or the Lord. I would say that the only ones that we can legitimately “prophetic” are from the Lord.
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast And another thought I think that goes along with this is - unless we can hear Him say 'no' then we will never be able to hear Him say 'yes'. In other words we have to be able to get our own biases out of the way before we have a clean filter for the HS to speak through. That is sometimes hard to do.
What about bringing in the 5 fold ministry to bring balance? For balance. Don't know just asking...
Emma’s mentor is Sharon Stone and she knows her heart and gift. Not sure if they’re still close as of when that word came out.
Sharon Stone signed the document against Emma (as did Cindy Jacob’s)
God is exposing many and many things!!!
I am thoroughly right wing (even tho the entire bird is pretty sick right now) and have been watching Emma for several years. I have never heard her ever say anything noticeably left wing.
Furthermore, she has repeatedly stated that she does not get involved with politics, in order to keep her ‘ear’ sensitive to the Lords words only.
*Very much appreciate this fair, balanced and considered discussion. Well done guys👌
She is definitely not left wing. Thank you for mentioning this.
Yes, totally agree. We need teachers and theologians to weight and judge national level prophetic words.
No one is Looking at him as a savior but a lot Christian’s maybe you look at doctors to save you. God uses his people. He is not that jerky to not share the spotlight. I don’t workshop Trump but he is allowing God to use him.
Not sure I agree that “no one” is looking at him as a savior
Unfortunately, many Christians speak more about Mr. Trump than Jesus. Many sinners can even see it.
A significant number of Christians use words like anointed and chosen to describe Trump without realizing that this is a political process, not a biblical one. Politicians are politicians, they aren’t spiritual leaders but this response tells me that too many in America have confused the two and have merged categories that should never be merged.
I’d love to listen to your comments after you’ve read the GPA statement from Emma in response…
Yeah, we’ve read it… I really liked her response in general. Do you think it’s worth an entire episode?
It’s hard to keep up with the responses TBH. Cindy went on a podcast, Barbara Yoder published on FB, Jennifer LeClaire put out several videos…
ACPE issued a response to her response… and answered a bunch of questions that no one was asking and ignored the big ones we did ask
This conflict is great because it shows that people prophesy 'out of their theological" background. It is clear that some are fully kingdom now and other are not in the kindom now world of view...
Thank you for a view that really opens up and gives perspective! Blessings!
Glad you enjoyed it!
If you are going to comment and blame a prophet for being false you could at least know who she is and know her history and her walk with God before condemning her.
Who did we say was false?
For this we understand people who have need to be politically correct will not say what or do all GOD says. Now those of us that have nothing to lose like our reputation Dod can trust, with a hard word
I suggest you check on pastor Steve Cicolanti . I am not saying he is perfect, but at least he is honest. He is speaking truth without apology. He stated very well in Christianity how they judge right and wrongs. Very pertinent.
God divorced Israel, His own special possession, who were overrun and taken into captivity, so why would there not be chaos and lawlessness as a result of judgement on a nation or nations? The prophets are agreed that the world is in an era of war and judgement, so do we get to tell God what form that judgement will take. Yes, He is a loving God, but He will not share His glory with any other.
I do love your channel though, I really appreciate the way you guys consider each aspect of this situation.
You guys really should do your research. You said in your last video that Emma’s original video has been taken down and that is not true. The full prophesy is still there as well as further explanations and other episodes. I’m not saying I’m for or against it. I’m just saying you should do your research before saying it’s been taken down because that isn’t true. And I do believe people should watch all the episodes in their entirety for appropriate context and make a judgement based off proper discernment, not a few bits and pieces of other people’s clips.
We covered the video but it wasn’t clear initially if it was the same one since they changed the title and the thumbnail.
Also, videos were removed that were referenced in the ACPE notes (it wasn’t the God Punched Trump video). Hard to do research on “what you can’t find anymore”.
Hebrews 1:1-2 (NIV): "In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe."
This passage highlights the shift from God speaking through prophets to speaking through Jesus Christ, who is seen as the ultimate revelation of God's will.
The Transition to Jesus
Fulfillment: Many Christians believe that Jesus fulfilled the prophecies of the Old Testament and provided a complete revelation of God's love and plan for humanity.
Direct Revelation: Through Jesus' teachings, life, death, and resurrection, Christians believe they have direct access to God's message and salvation.
Acts 21:10- Agabus is a New Testament prophet.
Ephesians 4:11 “And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers”
Yes God has revealed Himself perfectly through the life of Jesus. However that is an incorrect exegesis to suggests prophets ceased after Christ’s appearance on Earth.
Hello, I am a child of the most high and this is a new day, old things have passed away and behold the new has come, America ihave two nations in it because they have feed that spirit soooo long that THEY TRULY STARTED TO BELIEVE THAT GOD IS LIKE THEM THEY FORGOT THAT GOD IS NOT A GOD OF WRATH AS WELL AS LOVE.
Masses of pride in the ACPE group!
I just watched their videos and I didn't see "pride" there.
Maybe some confusion on what is revelation for "prophecy" and what is revelation for another purpose such as for prayer and intercession? Maybe a lack of understanding of what is prophecy in relation to a NT understanding?
Cindy Jacobs has mentored Emma and she called and talked to her after this prophesy so there is at least some what of a relationship. Assuming things is where we get in trouble.
CINDY JACOBS..SPOKE OUT against Emma Stark too. Jacobs is a STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF TRUMP! This fact disqualifies her prophecy ..Jacobs did not BRING CORRECTION TO ANY PROPHET IN HER PROPHETIC CIRCLE. when all they were Prophesying ABOUT TRUMP..fir 2020..didnt happen. Emma Stark is on
POINT. When God begins to unfold what HE HAS Said..to Emma Stark comes to pass..they will all be SILENT.
Thanks so much! Love this and first time too but I like the way you both analysed it. Will be watching part one immediately after. ❤❤I particularly connect to the young man in black as I share same views!❤Much love to you and family as I follow Emma but my spirit didn’t resonate with that particularly prophecy but that doesn’t mean she is false or any of ACPE but God knows who really is speaking for HIM!
Did the 1st. Century apostle s in the book of ACTS ever pray against a leviathan spirit. Please stop the craziness. We all know there are demons, why name them.
Jesus found out their names..
This is just causing more division and confusion
That’s why we reviewed it- the ACPE statement brought more confusion than the original word
Prophecy is a Person, not a gift. It is an internal virtue not accuracy or external encouraging. These guys dont build walls with jasper and sardinx stone with the Word, they talk about seeing but never see the Heart of God in His Son. "THE PROPHETIC MINISTRY IS DEAD IN THE HEART OF GOD."~TB. Here ye My son,
I began listening to Emma during the pandemic and at that time she was a lifeline for me. I learned a lot from her and I honor her for that. But, I noticed a pattern after watching Power Hour for over a hundred episodes. She spent a great deal of time on the demonic and there were many, many times she had negative things to say about the West in general and USA in particular. I just could not be fed the more negative prophetic teachings each time I listened so I had to move on. Also, do not be too quick to criticize the early mothers and fathers of the prophetic. They have paid a price for being pioneers and they just might have more wisdom than you think. Last word, we are all a part of the body of Christ and we all make mistakes but we better understand we are family and we should honor and love everyone in our eternal family.
I would say they definitely have more wisdom than we do… but I also think we have a hierarchical system in the prophetic movement that has unduly promoted some of them and they are subject to the same character flaws as the rest of us. We want to their spiritual contributions and wisdom without overemphasizing to the point of worshipping people (hopefully avoiding future IHOP debacles)
Absolutely well done guys. Just one thing, did God want Israel to vote who would be king over them? No God wanted to be their king through the priests and prophets. Does this mean we shouldn't vote? Of course not, but we need to recognise God does amazing things no matter how is in charge.
God did amazing things while the children of Israel were in exile. That was so God would be seen as doing it. Again we know God will judge those who are in charge of exile and the systems of exile. This is all biblical. Daniel prophesied it in Daniel 7. This is all reflected in Revalidation. Who are the people of the saints? That's the church guys.
Daniel 7 says there will be a shift from God backing political kingdoms and give it to the church under Christ.
This is biblical and what God will do. This is not opinion. Now is this happening now? This really should be what we are asking ourselves?
Are we to stay in Babalon? Has God said stay in exile and prosper? He did say this to the children of Israel and spoke against those who said to fight and go back to Zion.
What epoch of time are we in? Exile or Zion?
If exile then the systems of man will stand and God will bless us under them. If Zion then the systems of man, no matter how bible influenced they are, no matter how many bible believing councilors they have, these systems will crumble like the statue in the dream of the king of Babalon.
There will come and mighty rock to smash the feet of the statue. The 4th beast will loose it's power and it will be given to the people of the saints. However you look at it the day will come. It's totally biblical.
This is the revelation of Christ. This is the church He builds.
From Daniel to revelation Christ is seen.
It's just we need to as God what season are we in. Are we in exile as He has ordained and need to thrive where He put us or are we being shifted into Zion and need to recognise our new position in Him?
Many great points you guys have made
Thank you!
Yes thank you guys! 🥰😁👍🏻
We all prophecy in part. We test the prophecy if it does not come to pass don't believe it. Isn't ut what God's says in his word. The test of time.
That’s why I don’t understand why they say so many people were freaked out by Emma’s prophecy. I heard it, didn’t agree with it all, but thought “I guess we’ll see”. Perhaps a sign that so many in the church don’t know how to weigh prophecy or a sign Trump is an idol 🤷🏻♀️
I bought two of these food buckets and have yet to use them! I hope they're still good - they were not cheap!
Not gonna lie- I have a few. Now THAT would be a sad day- to be all prepped up and the day you need to set the tribulation table just to find that the Rapture Rations had expired!
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast 😆🤣
Yes, the shoe is on the other shoe 😅
I have received lots of warning dreams but I tend not to release it the way l get it to prevent fear but think about the prophets in the Bible, they say it the way the Lord released it. Not sure which way is better?
Depends on who the dream applies to
Woot! I’m originally from that area in Michigan. 😢 The flooding was sad.
I’m so sorry!
Would that be a word of warning? 😮
This is very sad. Words have to be looked up to understand what they mean. Its never what the face initial meaning is. Its so much more. When you look up in Hebrew the wirds ounch snd face. The numerology of thkse words, its a stunningly accurate word. The verse is Psalms 27:7-9.
Slight issue with the audio guys.
Yeah I know- it came out of the software that way (wasn’t like that during the edit). Sorry about that
Thank you so much!!!!
No to the Nar group. I am done with them. Before I started growing in the LORD I was mixed up with those guys. Discernment is a must. If you don't have it dear friends, ask JESUS for it. There are so many false prophets if that is what they call themselves. The enemy is working over time and using whoever will let him. Walk with JESUS daily and don't get trapped in a cesspool of false prophets. JESUS is KING. They are not good to follow. Blessings
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Are you saying because C Peter Wagner formed the ACPE it is the “NAR group”?
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I think he is part of it.
I personally stay away from that group of people. They think they are a group of elite in the body of CHRIST. In Matthew 24:4 the first thing JESUS said was ... Take heed that no man
deceives you. Discernment is so very important to have. Before I got serious about serving JESUS I followed that group and their teachings. It all seems good but you have to dig deeper in their beliefs and discern what their teachings are all about.
Blessings 🤗❤️
Her word on Trump was right. To understand you have to look up the words in Hebrew. Look up punch and face. Its not what people think.
It showed a pride response from prophets here but her word about Trump isnt what they think.
Oh! That’s a deep dive. KEWL
I have had some things I have seen, heard but just be quiet and pray. I may share with one person..and ask what do you think. I write them done and they stay there.
I was offended, I watch Sid Roth and love and appreciate him but I couldn't watch that. James Goll went publicly supporting Harris and spoke against Mario Murrilos tent revival just as it was getting ready for the first night in California. Goll said Mario's revival shouldn't happen if I remember right. Either way it was bad enough that Mario publicly spoke about it and the televised James Goll then he sits on a committee talking about what a prophet said. Hypocrite!!!! He turns my stomach. The Lord is cleaning His House the Church He spoke to me and maybe this is part of the exposure not so much Emma we all make mistakes and I have no comment on that my concern is someone who represents both sides life and death!!!!
His response to the IHOP situation was disappointing… and again, the singling out of this word seems to be related to Trump
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast yes, something is very off!
Also, like many, God spoke that He chose President Trump. This is so obvious in this election, what Trump stands for, and even the way President Trump is speaking, glorifying the Lord. All glory be to God.
Yes and that is the part I disagree with Emma’s word on: that she says Trump is partnered with an antichrist spirit. I would suggest that is more true of the alternative (although personally suspicious of Elon Musk)
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast yes I am suspicious of Elon to. God may have only allowed it for a time. Timothy Dixon a few days ago warned there is a judas in the presence of Trump having dinner and close with family. Maybe it is Elon I almost want to say that it is. That is resonating with me right now.
Apostle Tomi Arayomi gives very accurate national prophecies. Dr Sharon Stone is his spiritual mum.
He also deletes every inaccurate prophecy he releases
@kingdomawakeningpodcast Really?Never seen that.
The Remnant Radio reviewed and addressed it on their channel
27 years in the prophetic as a Seer and I walked from my calling. The whole prophetic movement is garbage. I called out Chris Reed in the comments section for Remnant Radio. I said I saw darkness over him, I wasn't sure what is was exactly but I knew he was someone to stay clear from. Two years later he came out admitting to a adulterous affair. I just have to look at someone and I just know. It freaks people out and makes having friends difficult lol. My advice to any believer is stay away from these "prophets" seriously I seen their destruction and their witchcraft. Now you have African witchcraft coming through these deliverance ministries OMG! are you serious!!! How stupid!!! blind!!! Can you be? Thankfully Abenago lufie is exposing it but these charismatic prophets won't say anything but again they're a bunch of Balaams.
Recording an episode on this subject Thursday
Amen amen !! Abendego, Kevin Ewing and Tiphani are the only ones I watch as they stick To the actual Word of God
God is not going to punch him...He told me.
Man I love this comment so much 🤣😂🤣😂
@kingdomawakeningpodcast I realize it is a spiritual meaning, but it is also wrong. Do you all know how many unknown prophets and prophetic messengers there is in the world? We don't have podcasts, we see, hear, and Pray as led. I have watched the correction from the prophetic council from the US. They are right. You were attempting to speak judgement over another nation, very carelessly. You missed the heartbeat of that nation, the deep cry for help to the Father not get Kamala. DT is a new believer, your team seems to have missed that. His is not his past. He is learning and still making mistakes. But his past is public, yours is not. This was a Miracle! A land slide miracle. It was mercy, grace, not judgement. DT's team that has been put together has God in it. It isn't perfect but God is in it. Kamala wanted to build Gotham City. No one is worshipping him, no one is putting all their trust in him?? They got a miracle leader in a spiritual battle against anti christ politics. That doesn't make anyone more political than spiritual. It makes us desperate and crying out to our Father!! Emma and team did not get this one right, Cindy Jacob's team of 60, weighed it, measured it, and got it right.🥰🌻
Aww I really hoped your first comment was sarcastic 😢 As we said in the episode- we have issues with Emma’s (and yes we recognize God isn’t done with Trump) word as well, but the reasons for ACPE going public only added confusion rather than brought clarity.
@@kingdomawakeningpodcast The ACPE did amazing! So thankful for their response. Emma brought a very serious word to another nation in a very careless way. I noticed my comment is gone outlining it all?? Controlling UA-cam comments is quite strange?? Emma is going to be a quiet lamb now? Okay that works. This is very serious, a 6 generation Christian lineage doesn't fix this. One must pray about what prophetic to release or just pray for. And if spoken, how is it made digestible to who it is going? Many difficult words are for prayer and intercession. If one is a called true prophet to the nations, the word is usually redemptive like the letters to the churches in Revelations. That prophet to the nations has prayed and prayed and heard how it is handled.This was not handled well and has bad fruit because of of it.
Also Christian nationalism rampant in the states . Politicized religion. Thats why there all getting upset . It pinched their idolatry
GOD IS PUNCHING ALL IDOLS IN THE FACE, PEOPLE CAN LIKE IT OR NOT, AND NONE IS RIGHT BUT GOD, WHY MUST THE BODY TALK AND ACT LIKE THE WORLD. FOR THIS SOME SO CALLED CHRISTIANS THAT HAVE THOUGHT THEY WERE THE ONLY VOICE OF GOD TIME IS OVER. WHY BECAUSE GOD KNOWS WHO HE CAN TRUST IN THIS HOUR.
Amen
Has the political arena and the political spirit clouded our filter?
My.
Main concern with all of this is not so much was that a false word? Was it an accurate word? My stance right now is about how this council has responded. Or should I say reacted? I have seen prophets and
Apostolic councils, pastoral councils sweep even more serious sins under the rug have taken their time in responding to those sins. Coming out with an official statement. You guys as a counsel of prophetic elders like threw down the hammer before there were conversations even had. It just doesn't sound like you went through a due process and talked things over and to hear their hearts. And you guys have been in relationship with Emma and her team in the past. But yet you haven't had the courtesy to talk with them. They heard about your letter about your statement second hand not from you guys. Where is the love of Christ in this whole process? If a process has to be done because it was an inaccurate word fine, but there should have been grace and a move to preserve relationship and extend love in this situation. And I feel like you guys have missed that mark sorely..
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