The Kazakh Famine of 1930-33 and the Politics of History in the Post-Soviet Space

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  • Опубліковано 24 сер 2024

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  • @jakef.7126
    @jakef.7126 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for this video. The genocide against the people of Kazakhstan has gone unrecognised. My heart bleeds for all the millions of victims.
    Thank you for giving them the dignity they deserve. May they rest in peace.

    • @AlexanderUnit-731
      @AlexanderUnit-731 Рік тому

      How many millions exactly? The total demographic loss of Kazakhstan of 1930-33 was around 500k ppl.
      China says that 400k Kazakhs immigrated to China in 1931 and Iran says that 150k Kazakhs immigrated to Persia in 1932.

    • @dezline7184
      @dezline7184 Рік тому +1

      @@AlexanderUnit-731 Численность казахов сократилась с 6,47 миллиона в 1924 году до 2,1 миллиона в 1937 году.

    • @AlexanderUnit-731
      @AlexanderUnit-731 Рік тому

      @@dezline7184 *Численность казахов сократилась с 6,47 миллиона в 1924 году до 2,1 миллиона в 1937 году*
      - Кто сказал что казахов было 6,47 миллионов. По данным всех переписей того периода, численность казахов никогда не превышала численность Монголии где такие же кочевники вели схожий образ жизни.

    • @user-rb8ix5sq5o
      @user-rb8ix5sq5o 8 місяців тому

      ​@@AlexanderUnit-731😂😂 возомнил себя умником? Это во всем СССР численность казахов сократился на 500 тысяч а в Казакской АССР численность казахов сократился до 1.3 миллионов
      По данным переписи населенния СССР численность казахов в территории Казахстана:
      1926 год - 3.6 миллион
      1939 год - 2 3 миллион. Это 40 % казахского народа!

    • @AlexanderUnit-731
      @AlexanderUnit-731 8 місяців тому

      @@user-rb8ix5sq5o Ты границы Казахстана 1926 и 1939 сравни, мамбос обиженный.
      Население современной Украины с 1991 года сократилось с 52 млн до 26 млн в 2021. А теперь докажи что это не геноцид и не голодомор. Даже перепись населения прекратили с 2001 года публиковать - чтобы скрыть преступления режима.

  • @KonradAdenauerJr
    @KonradAdenauerJr 6 років тому +15

    Thank you for presenting one of the lesser-known Soviet communist atrocities.

    • @AlexanderUnit-731
      @AlexanderUnit-731 Рік тому +1

      How hunger is an atrocity? By the same logic the 100 mln dead of Spanish Flu are capitalist atrocities - capitalist governments send ppl to the trenches of World War (that they started) and capitalist governments failed to fight the pandemic.
      The Capitalist revolutions killed 1/3 of Germany's population and 1/4 of England's population in 17-18th century. The Communist revolution didn't kill even 1/10 of Russia's population.

    • @KonradAdenauerJr
      @KonradAdenauerJr Рік тому +2

      @@AlexanderUnit-731 I note your whataboutisms, false equivalencies, and historical revisionism, comrade, but they won't detract honest people from analyzing the communist-engineered Kazakh famine, Holodomor, and all other communist atrocities.

    • @AlexanderUnit-731
      @AlexanderUnit-731 Рік тому

      @@KonradAdenauerJr According to your anti-historical & propagandistic logic, Spanish Flu is a capitalist atrocity, as well as other hundreds of millions of direct victims of capitalist regimes - starting from genocide against Native Americans and Irish Hunger and ending with 1,5 million dead of COVID-19 in USA.

    • @KonradAdenauerJr
      @KonradAdenauerJr Рік тому +1

      @@AlexanderUnit-731 I'm not making these ahistorical claims, you are. Your weak whataboutisms and diversions might serve you well at a communist party session at a factory in Krasnoyarsk but won't work here. You've presented no evidence to refute the presentation. You need to do so.

    • @AlexanderUnit-731
      @AlexanderUnit-731 Рік тому

      @@KonradAdenauerJr According to your anti-historical claims, capitalist regimes are responsible for killing 100 mln ppl during Spanish Flu.
      You can't deny the responsibility of capitalism because it happened under the capitalist rule.

  • @AlexanderUnit-731
    @AlexanderUnit-731 8 місяців тому

    When people suffer any "genocidal" politics they don't defend the state. Look at Iraqi Kurds - they suffered genocide in 1987, and no single Kurd defended Iraq in 1991 or in 2003.
    But what we have with the Kazakhs is anti-war and anti-capitalist uprising of 1916, and in the other hand - massive Kazakh heroism and massive Kazakh voluntarily conscription in WW2 to defend Stalin and USSR.
    People that consider themselves as "victims of regime" will never go to war to defend the regime.

  • @themise1416
    @themise1416 10 років тому +3

    Can you invest in better sound equipment? Every time the speaker turns to the screen, she becomes inaudible.

  • @AlexanderUnit-731
    @AlexanderUnit-731 8 місяців тому

    Just compare the borders of Kazakhstan in 1926 and borders of Kazakhstan in 1936. This where victims of your "genocide" disappeared. You have only Stalin's statistics in your hands.
    With that anti-historical approach we should say that modern capitalist Ukraine suffered genocide in 1991-2021. Ukraine had 52 mln ppl, but 30 years of genocide took 50% of population.
    And Ukranian government doesn't even publish demographic statistics since 2001 - to cover the crimes of regime.
    Genocide proven.

  • @QYZYQ_TARIH
    @QYZYQ_TARIH 2 роки тому +3

    Raxmet🇰🇿

  • @daawkebay
    @daawkebay Рік тому +1

    🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿🇰🇿

  • @AlexanderUnit-731
    @AlexanderUnit-731 6 років тому +3

    Creators of this video have no respect to Kazakh people and our history.
    We rebelled against WW1 mobilization in 1916. We, Kazakhs. stood for our Socialism during WW2 sending 1,2 mln people to the front.
    And now you telling me that we were victims of Stalin and we went through "man-made" starvation like odedient cattle to slaughter.
    It is as stupid as to expect from Kurds that they would defend Baghdad in 2003 during US intervention, rememebering the fact that Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons against them in 1988.

    • @mrbleach8688
      @mrbleach8688 4 роки тому +1

      I agree!

    • @adoypoyt9800
      @adoypoyt9800 4 роки тому +1

      Ты оккупант и потомок оккупанта. Вали в Московию жить

    • @_Geronimo_
      @_Geronimo_ 4 роки тому

      @@kzland6511 im sorry

    • @jumajaco
      @jumajaco 3 роки тому +6

      Ah yes, the fellow kazakh named Alexander...

    • @AlexanderUnit-731
      @AlexanderUnit-731 3 роки тому +1

      @@kzland6511 You are too brainwashed to have your own opinion.