Webber was at his peak in that Jaguar, that car was barely a midfield car and he was racing with the top teams he extracted every millisecond of pace out of that thing.
@@Someone25948i agree that he blocked once or twice on this onboard but I'd go with black-white flag and let them race. It was close to bad but thanks to fernando's reaction it didn't go too bad
+MJTbreww there's actually more overtaking now there no refueling and lower downforce etc. plus even 2015 was a tighter championship than 2004 lol I think when you say "this was real f1" you mean "this was how F1 was when I got into it and am annoyed it changed" when for those who'd been watching in the 90s this was the nadir i2f boredom with cars that took away driver skill, awful qualifying and professional race after processional race you may be blinkered by the negativity surrounding the sport now but it was just as bad then
+cdname47 Tighter championship... I hated the Mercs both drivers just wine. As for real F1 I'd say the 80's-90's period. It's just that I hate this current crap so much that it makes the early 2000's look amazing even though they were good but not as good. So KK.
+cdname47 F1 has always been the pinnacle of intelligent design AND technology. What you are describing is NASCAR. Lots and lots of overtaking with old technology, and before you tell me how amazing the tech is now, it is not! Diesel electric motors have been around for a 100 years. That is essentially what they are, just way way way way overly complicated. Complicated does not mean that they are technically advanced, just complicated. Like how the Russian's Cosmonauts used a pencil instead of Nasa's million dollar pen. The cars suck.
They looked amazing. It's a pity they couldn't get Adrian Newey sooner. The Cosworth is one of the best engines on the grid just a poor chassis relative to the competition. If they had have been winning who knows maybe Ford would have stuck with them.
F1 has always been F1.. F1 is about technological advancements. If you're just in it for the sound (not saying you are, but a lot of people are) than it's you (or whoever) that don't share the same philosophy as F1 because F1 is not about sound and going back to these dinosaur engines would be a HUGE leap backwards and literally would make no sense business-wise.
@@motorsportministries7843 that guy said Alonso deliberately broke traction to counter the car's understeer. Warmed up the tires and got extra exit speed.
Razor_Blade0 Williams I'm talking about their UA-cam channel. F1 nowadays isn't the best, that's for sure, but it isn't the worst (though I don't really like the engine sound, like many of us)
"webber isn't really legendary." (+Roboboss14 youtube commentator) "A great man, a great character, a driver of the old school" (Fernando Alonso Duel Formula one world champion)
Ahh nice to see this battle video finally here. I tried to upload this battle(And all the Bahrain 2004 battles over 10 minutes long video) myself few months ago but you lovely FOM dudes blocked it unsuprsingly. :P
+MickeyMoTiOnZ what are you waiting for?? it's still playable if you've bought it before march the 27th.. I know About The FOM Copyright thing but it's seriously still playable... just saying
+DutchRacingLegend 13 wait what do you mean its still playable if you bought it before march the 27th? Did something happen? I got it the day it was released just curious
+Soham Paikaray If Bernie finds this he will probably go all paranoid for like 30 minutes or so before remembering that he owns the channel and that he actually created it (grudgingly) :D
f1 in this era had a big problem with standing up to dirty blocking. webber move after the long left hander here was probably over the line but he and people like Schumacher were allowed to shove people odd the track with no penalty.
Degenerate Faggot I know I'm very late but if you are going across a long straight and you then cut them off, the driver may not have enough time to react. But you can cover the inside or outside line into a corner when the car behind is not right behind you. From there, I think you can go back to the racing line leaving a car width beside you.
Good battle but Alonso is clearly out of position: That Jaguar is lightyears slower than the Renault and Webber did well to hold on to the position for as long as he did.
I live somewhere close to Spain F1 circuit (around 15km) and I have always heard the sound of the cars on the race weekend. After 2006, I no longer heard anything from home anymore :(
Surprising how drivers are capable of doing such a things, in the end, when Fernando decides to take the inside line as he saw mark was not longer in his side. All in some tenths of second
it's not that they need to bring back v10s at all. It's a simple fact that there is too much areo today not enough mechanical or ground effect and today's tyres are shite.
+Hedley Thorne So what happens when you have teams that are new to F1 that have never built a car during that era? Don't think that's unfair on them whereas Renault, Ferrari, Mclaren etc have a huge advantage?
Hmm, if today's cars sound like vacuum cleaners, these sound like remote controlled cars. Never thought they sounded that pleasant. I'd take the throaty roar of the mid 80's turbos or the early 90's V10s and 12s over the screeching of these.
Tienes razón. Yo también siempre lo he pensado. Pero hay que decir que al Renault de Fernando le faltaba la velocidad y aunque el tomaba la esquia, no consiguiba acercarse ni un poquito
+James G Except we know that's not true, we have extensive battles all the time, this is tame compared to battles like Lewis vs. Nico at Bahrain 2014, lmao.
Because most of the side by side action started on the run down to Turn 1, which allowed Rosberg to get close enough. People might not like it but DRS can often be very useful in creating better battles...
I don't know, I don't think it'll create any more battling. The cars in this clip didn't go side by side or anything, kinda boring compared to today. I agree they need to go with the less aero route and more mechanical grip though to get rid of the dirty air...
LOL webber holding on to his position even though his car got nothing compared to the chasing renault. he did put a good battle with alonso eventhough you can see mark struggling to hold on.
Oh my god, without music? Without anyone talking? Just pure engine sound? THIS CANT BE REAL! THIS IS TOO GOOD!
you clearly missed the "THIS CANT BE REAL! THIS IS TOO GOOD" part i guess
sh0xXx89 ii
@@sH0xXx89
Zisse ize tougoude
It's like a symphony I miss the noise.
This engine sound itself is equal to music.
Webber was at his peak in that Jaguar, that car was barely a midfield car and he was racing with the top teams he extracted every millisecond of pace out of that thing.
And driving as dirtily as he could...
@@Someone25948 that was hard and fair racing
In now days he will get 10 sec penalty for defending his position
Put it on the front row in Malaysia
@@Someone25948i agree that he blocked once or twice on this onboard but I'd go with black-white flag and let them race. It was close to bad but thanks to fernando's reaction it didn't go too bad
1:19 awesome shot of the weird steering technique which won him 2 championships
did it tho?
if I used this technique I'd still be 100000 seconds behind him :--)
He certainly didn't get closer by doing that there.
He did it to make the rock hard michelins work, with the bridgstones hed be slow
Super hard rubber needs to get heated much more
Or it might have cost him some championships.
incredible. i love how these models can follow behind and not destroy their tires.
I miss that great sound...
RStylesGeleen Racing Me too. :(
Thats porn for my eyes and ears
F1 is WAY too good to be associated with that.
@@whoasked9500 Indeed
@@whoasked9500 Facts
Thanks for showing us some real F1 at least on UA-cam.
grooved tyres, traction control, Rev limit, launch control, refuelling and worst of all crazy winglets and high downforce levels.
this was not true f1
+cdname47 Still beats 2014, 2015 combined. lol
+MJTbreww there's actually more overtaking now there no refueling and lower downforce etc. plus even 2015 was a tighter championship than 2004 lol
I think when you say "this was real f1" you mean "this was how F1 was when I got into it and am annoyed it changed" when for those who'd been watching in the 90s this was the nadir i2f boredom with cars that took away driver skill, awful qualifying and professional race after processional race
you may be blinkered by the negativity surrounding the sport now but it was just as bad then
+cdname47 Tighter championship... I hated the Mercs both drivers just wine. As for real F1 I'd say the 80's-90's period. It's just that I hate this current crap so much that it makes the early 2000's look amazing even though they were good but not as good. So KK.
+cdname47 F1 has always been the pinnacle of intelligent design AND technology. What you are describing is NASCAR. Lots and lots of overtaking with old technology, and before you tell me how amazing the tech is now, it is not! Diesel electric motors have been around for a 100 years. That is essentially what they are, just way way way way overly complicated. Complicated does not mean that they are technically advanced, just complicated. Like how the Russian's Cosmonauts used a pencil instead of Nasa's million dollar pen. The cars suck.
I always liked how the Jaguars looked.
They looked amazing. It's a pity they couldn't get Adrian Newey sooner. The Cosworth is one of the best engines on the grid just a poor chassis relative to the competition. If they had have been winning who knows maybe Ford would have stuck with them.
This is RACE. This is ENGINE WITH AWESOME SOUND. This is FORMULA 1! ;)
I prefer the actual sound, but the V10 sound is superb.
RacingForever THAT was F1. No f*cking DRS, No KERS, just racing.
F1 has always been F1.. F1 is about technological advancements. If you're just in it for the sound (not saying you are, but a lot of people are) than it's you (or whoever) that don't share the same philosophy as F1 because F1 is not about sound and going back to these dinosaur engines would be a HUGE leap backwards and literally would make no sense business-wise.
@@lightmd F1 is the pinnacle of technology like it or not.
@Leonardo Araujo THESE PEOPLE JUST CRY
19 years later, my man is still overtaking top guys at Bahrain.
"Yes, Bye Bye".😉
*1:19** Look how agressively he turns into the corner !*
he has a really unique steering technique, almost slides through the turns.
Watch youtube channel driver61, he explains it all in his video about alonso’s technique
His car setup was more prone to understeer,thats why he aggressively turns into the all types of corners.
@@dhruvsinghpal8737 He also did it to warm up the front tires and give him more grip.
@@motorsportministries7843 that guy said Alonso deliberately broke traction to counter the car's understeer. Warmed up the tires and got extra exit speed.
Thanks F1 channel, THANK YOU SO MUCH !! :D That's the content we want, keep it up ;)
Speaking of content we want....what about F1 today????
+Razor_Blade0 Williams Sucks
Razor_Blade0 Williams I'm talking about their UA-cam channel. F1 nowadays isn't the best, that's for sure, but it isn't the worst (though I don't really like the engine sound, like many of us)
Listen to the sound..V10
This is what we call F1.
The engine sound of the V10 is just awesome.
2 Legendary Formula 1 driver
webber isn't really legendary.
"webber isn't really legendary." (+Roboboss14 youtube commentator)
"A great man, a great character, a driver of the old school" (Fernando Alonso Duel Formula one world champion)
Tom Spiers, this quote of Alonso didn't say Webber is a legend, not even close.
Heart pumping stuff. The Great Fernando Alonso at his magical best.
1:05 international sign for what the hell are you doing
This is the EXACT type of video you guys should be uploading. This was fantastic!
Ahh nice to see this battle video finally here. I tried to upload this battle(And all the Bahrain 2004 battles over 10 minutes long video) myself few months ago but you lovely FOM dudes blocked it unsuprsingly. :P
love your vids,full of v10 power!!
Suomi tyyppi spotted.
+John Cash (FinnishF1Dude) love your onboard videos
They realised your content was better than the official content so they took your idea of uploading some great battles. Lol
John Cash Johnny cash! Love your videos
1:06-"ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE-A-DA SPACE!!!
It was actually 1:04 You can see Alonso waving his hand as it's unfair
That was intense man!! I wish we still had cars like that, they were just amazing,
That sound tho, omg I fell in love again. srry baby I cheat on you
good one
+P1 SENNA one
+Victor Alandi GOOD
What a beautiful sound. Kudos to Mark for keeping that shitbox ahead of Fernando for a lap too.
Love the renault engine sound, miss the noise
I like how you feel the power. Not like today.
Awesome sound.
Wow racing not seen that for a long time. Pure symphonic sound and no DRS.
It’s amazing this driver is still with us season 2024! Would LoVE ❤️ to see him in an RB
Just pure sound!!! so lovely
Great to see more vids from this channel!
i just love the noise that the old cars used to make, don't hear that anymore.
This is pure music to ears. Bring back those engines.
More onboards like this! Perfect.
Awh that sound!!!
Gosh, I miss my screaming V10s.
refueling and 3 races within overtaking too
Who doesn't?
So do I. But those were v8's.
@@arebrec no, in 2004 they used v10 engines
@@arebrec lol what?
Ahhhh, just like old times
FINALLLY after years and yars of good content put down by FOM from youtube they upload their own, in high quality and good editing. Thank you!
This makes me want to play Automobilista V10... oh wait.
+MickeyMoTiOnZ what are you waiting for?? it's still playable if you've bought it before march the 27th..
I know About The FOM Copyright thing but it's seriously still playable... just saying
+DutchRacingLegend 13 You must be real fun at parties.
CosIGotHigh1
i am not actually kidding.....
+DutchRacingLegend 13 wait what do you mean its still playable if you bought it before march the 27th? Did something happen? I got it the day it was released just curious
+DutchRacingLegend 13 what is exactly the scandal with the FOM ?
Just incredible in every way.
In before FOM takes this video down...
+Soham Paikaray hahahahahaah........... nice one XD :D
;)
This is the official UA-cam channel of Formula 1, i'm not sure that they will do anything 😂😂😂
FOM should take this video down
+Soham Paikaray If Bernie finds this he will probably go all paranoid for like 30 minutes or so before remembering that he owns the channel and that he actually created it (grudgingly) :D
if that webber's move is done in this season, it would be 1 minute penalty
so true.
f1 in this era had a big problem with standing up to dirty blocking. webber move after the long left hander here was probably over the line but he and people like Schumacher were allowed to shove people odd the track with no penalty.
PanduWic it's exactly what max did to raikkonen lmao
Degenerate Faggot I know I'm very late but if you are going across a long straight and you then cut them off, the driver may not have enough time to react. But you can cover the inside or outside line into a corner when the car behind is not right behind you. From there, I think you can go back to the racing line leaving a car width beside you.
10 race ban as he said once lol
that engine sound tho! :O
THIS IS MUSIC, PURE SOUND
Old, great, BEST F1...
Bring back V10s!!!
THIS is RACING!!!!!!!!!
Que maravilla ver a Alonso luchar con los grandes y no como ahora, en fin, solamente espero que pueda correr en Bahrein
Actualmente a alonso le va bien con el equipo Aston Martin
Nothing will beat the good old V10 Engine Sound
Current f1 days just don't have this
Good battle but Alonso is clearly out of position: That Jaguar is lightyears slower than the Renault and Webber did well to hold on to the position for as long as he did.
Well said.
Thanks Bro.
The traction that Renault had was unbelievable
shut up idiot
I live somewhere close to Spain F1 circuit (around 15km) and I have always heard the sound of the cars on the race weekend. After 2006, I no longer heard anything from home anymore :(
beaultiful sound...
That sound🥰🥰😍😍
The front tyres have different speeds when making turns through the corners. It's pretty fascinating.
Webber goes wide and an easy move in the end for Alonso!
The V10s though! 😍
OMG the sound feel so good
This is why I love F1
God.. Music for my ears😍
Como sonaban esos v10 😍😍💪🏼
Surprising how drivers are capable of doing such a things, in the end, when Fernando decides to take the inside line as he saw mark was not longer in his side. All in some tenths of second
This is what we need !!!
Gotta love that sound... Back when F1 was great :'( BRING BACK THE V10's!!!!!!!!!!
it's not that they need to bring back v10s at all. It's a simple fact that there is too much areo today not enough mechanical or ground effect and today's tyres are shite.
So there you have it F1, your answer for 2017. The 2004 regulations with the 2016 safety cells. Job done.
+Hedley Thorne So what happens when you have teams that are new to F1 that have never built a car during that era? Don't think that's unfair on them whereas Renault, Ferrari, Mclaren etc have a huge advantage?
+flyhighpizzapie I was kinda being funny don't worry. But many would argue that the cars were a little more exciting and spectacular from that era.
***** Ha! Good luck with that then. In your world all we'd have is about 6 teams competing!
***** Agree to disagree then.
That engine sound 😍
What the sound!
Oh, Jaguar... How I miss you...
Hmm, if today's cars sound like vacuum cleaners, these sound like remote controlled cars. Never thought they sounded that pleasant. I'd take the throaty roar of the mid 80's turbos or the early 90's V10s and 12s over the screeching of these.
have to say that while I enjoy these last great v 10 cars ,the early 80s and 90s do sound best.
That what should F1 looks like and sounds like.
Cars don't have complex front wing in order to catch up the car and overtake
The sound O the sound!
This is impossible with DRS
Tienes razón. Yo también siempre lo he pensado. Pero hay que decir que al Renault de Fernando le faltaba la velocidad y aunque el tomaba la esquia, no consiguiba acercarse ni un poquito
+James G Except we know that's not true, we have extensive battles all the time, this is tame compared to battles like Lewis vs. Nico at Bahrain 2014, lmao.
+ElReyGuiri Impossible with DRS? So the 2014 battle didn't involve DRS at all did it? (Which was heaps better then this...)
Because most of the side by side action started on the run down to Turn 1, which allowed Rosberg to get close enough. People might not like it but DRS can often be very useful in creating better battles...
I don't know, I don't think it'll create any more battling. The cars in this clip didn't go side by side or anything, kinda boring compared to today. I agree they need to go with the less aero route and more mechanical grip though to get rid of the dirty air...
Why hasn't FOM taken this video down yet? Lack of consistency there
it's the official F1 channel
+Fabian Solomon that's the joke.
Em 1:19 ele mostra porque é um dos melhores pilotos da F1.
The traction that Renault had was unbelievable!
LOL webber holding on to his position even though his car got nothing compared to the chasing renault. he did put a good battle with alonso eventhough you can see mark struggling to hold on.
volver a las reglas del 2008 en la fórmula 1 para crear nuevas leyendas y epopeyas en la máxima categoria
When Formula1 was Formula1...
Here during 2021 F1 midseason break.
That SCREAM!!!!!!!
This motor v10 is music for my Ears
BRING IT BACK PLEEEASEEE
1:05 Snake
lol
+Rohan Racing hahahah the wind is too much
A Jaguar
What does that mean?
COBRA KAI!
Thanks a lot, but I'd love to see Hamilton vs Rosber 2014
Better than 2014; it was overhyped massively
+Count Fisco Not really, it was one of the greatest battles in recent years..
+Count Fisco true. We go from the best engines to 10 years later the worst (sounding)
It was the F1 ! No DRS , only driving skills . It was the good time , memories memories ... 😟
This is my favorite time.
Look how good racing can be with proper tires and without DRS
weird how this was recommended to me while i was watching replay of this race on the f1 app
THE BEST,PERFECT
El mejor de todos los tiempos. Pero por ciento Webber era un piloto increíble también.
Engine pr0n! Love it!
I miss these cars...
SO much brake dust coming off Webber's car at the first and last corners!
Dat engine 😍😍
Soundgasm
Thank you for not ruining this eargasm with some shitty music !
OWNED
This is Formula One!!
That awesome v10 sound
Вот движки до 2014 года были невероятными. А звук двигателя болидов до 2014 года - ну просто рай!!!
А сейчас бардак и трэш.
Love the look of the Jaguar.