The best way to describe what you are talking about during 1:28 is a delayed input. Not quite simultaneously but quick enough to where it may sound the same. Like in drums it's called a Flam, and here is a video for anyone curious: ua-cam.com/video/5ujmfxvr0bQ/v-deo.htmlsi=gsDx7HCdg8snzSN4 The rythm you will need is in the first 16 seconds. If it helps pin me : D
I will definitely be trying with this kind of CPU. Piccolo's training was implying they were simultaneous. It never occurred to me that they might be just a *bit* desynced
Tutorial is amazing I can't get more than 2 or 3 though after like 3 hours and I'm going to keep trying. I can't figure out if I'm hitting it to early or too late. I wish there was that feature that shows the inputs as you hit them along the side.
My problem is, I go online and boom timing is off completly, either the small lag that I cant even notice makes it so I have to delay the in put or do it before I get it, feel like its luck with my connection
@@giancarloecheverria7849 you gotta find the timing for who your playing with but the better you are with it offline the more consistent you will be online
Oh snap. THIS is the literally the first video that got me understanding super counters immediately, I still suck, but when I paused the video to give it a try I got two out consecutively. So, you essentially push up as you see them pull a punch back, and then just time square rather than do both at the same time as the tutorial says. After we get this down, what would you say would be the next step in training? Since this doesn't exactly simulate a live battle.
@@eighthlegofthephantomtroup1842 I would go into Episode Battle and start fighting the CPU there and try to go for super counters against their super counter just to get used to reacting then take it online once you get confortable and get used to the delay there after getting the timing down pact
this game must have delay when pvp or its just different with pve, in pve when the bot super counter me, I'd just teleport behind them with counter and it worked all the time, but in PVP the timing were so tight that I can't barely hit 1 out of 10.
When you’re in matches online you want to try and find the timing for Z Counter and Super Counter the timing will be different depending on the delay. But once you find the timing it’s just about inputting the button on that timing. I’d recommend if you can find someone who has a bit of delay connecting with you and play against them a bit to get used to input delay.
@@ghosttaki8547 it depends on your connection in online matches but if you can get it consistently offline as long as the delay isn’t ridiculous you can get it online
You don't want to super counter vanish wars every time though, vanish wars make you and your opponent's stock bars go up, this is useful for builds that rely on transformations to build up stocks easily. What you definitely want to use SCs for is for violent rushes on sparking and when getting comboed from behind by slow characters like roshi and yaj
"Practicing everyday each move untill 10x successful string"
Bro, you're gonna turn Korean at this pace 🗿
You'd be better off starting at 3 and working your way up to 10 over the passing weeks. gotta get the muscle memory working lol
@@Sarge23 I got 3 super counts in a row at best.
The best way to describe what you are talking about during 1:28 is a delayed input. Not quite simultaneously but quick enough to where it may sound the same.
Like in drums it's called a Flam, and here is a video for anyone curious:
ua-cam.com/video/5ujmfxvr0bQ/v-deo.htmlsi=gsDx7HCdg8snzSN4
The rythm you will need is in the first 16 seconds. If it helps pin me : D
Man i had to come back to this video to thank you for this guide 🙏🏽 i started hitting them left and right once i got that timing down.
@@RandomName-xx9ls Bruh this comment right here means a lot thank you my guy 💪🏾
@@CoercitioYT its no problem it was a great guide, straight to the point and not at all confusing. Imma have to sub just for that fr.
@@RandomName-xx9ls I appreciate you my man
I will definitely be trying with this kind of CPU.
Piccolo's training was implying they were simultaneous. It never occurred to me that they might be just a *bit* desynced
SSB Goku spams (abuses) smash attacks against Golden Frieza in the main game. Thanks for the video, so i can train against it.
all of this is useless in online mode with a latency
@@seijuroakashi3724 find the timing in the latency it’s been done in several matches
FACTUAL
The latency isn’t that bad it’s like a quarter of a second added and tbh all the times u miss cause u did it too late will prolly land even more
u acting like everyone else don’t play the same online game😂 u jus trash
People pull off moves with 1 frame inputs in delay all the time. You have 4 frames to input a super counter, so you’ll have to work around latency.
Tutorial is amazing I can't get more than 2 or 3 though after like 3 hours and I'm going to keep trying. I can't figure out if I'm hitting it to early or too late. I wish there was that feature that shows the inputs as you hit them along the side.
I wish the training mode had more to added to it
My problem is, I go online and boom timing is off completly, either the small lag that I cant even notice makes it so I have to delay the in put or do it before I get it, feel like its luck with my connection
@@giancarloecheverria7849 you gotta find the timing for who your playing with but the better you are with it offline the more consistent you will be online
So I don’t gotta hold the stick up n hit square at the same time
@@suave2973 Not anymore you can just hold up and time your square press but if you miss you want to let go and then rehold and time it again
Like how they separated it from the z counter
@@dragonga1223 as someone who never played the other BT games it does make more sense now lol
@@CoercitioYTso if I miss I need to stop holding up and hold up + square again
@@SaintX-1 yeah it hasn’t worked for me if I hold it after missing it
Oh snap. THIS is the literally the first video that got me understanding super counters immediately, I still suck, but when I paused the video to give it a try I got two out consecutively. So, you essentially push up as you see them pull a punch back, and then just time square rather than do both at the same time as the tutorial says.
After we get this down, what would you say would be the next step in training? Since this doesn't exactly simulate a live battle.
@@eighthlegofthephantomtroup1842 I would go into Episode Battle and start fighting the CPU there and try to go for super counters against their super counter just to get used to reacting then take it online once you get confortable and get used to the delay there after getting the timing down pact
+1
@@KenLives333 appreciate you my man
How to go to this training mode ??
@@noonecanpero1515 it’s the first 20 secs of the video my guy…
Why do the hits look slower on UA-cam?
if you mean the initial hit the cpu usually does a fully charged smash attack first
this game must have delay when pvp or its just different with pve, in pve when the bot super counter me, I'd just teleport behind them with counter and it worked all the time, but in PVP the timing were so tight that I can't barely hit 1 out of 10.
When you’re in matches online you want to try and find the timing for Z Counter and Super Counter the timing will be different depending on the delay. But once you find the timing it’s just about inputting the button on that timing. I’d recommend if you can find someone who has a bit of delay connecting with you and play against them a bit to get used to input delay.
@@CoercitioYT Will the timing/delay be different for each new player I fight online?
@@snapjaw2 in a way yes, if you have a 5 bar connection with someone the latency is almost unnoticeable though
@@CoercitioYT I hope I can adjust against different delays. Maybe I will only super count on the slow hits. Thanks!
@@snapjaw2 i think you want to do a mix of super countering and vanish on defense
This shit need to have cd bro
Somehow I’m clashing like in FighterZ and I hate it cuz I can do it perfectly on accident
@@ghosttaki8547 it depends on your connection in online matches but if you can get it consistently offline as long as the delay isn’t ridiculous you can get it online
You don't want to super counter vanish wars every time though, vanish wars make you and your opponent's stock bars go up, this is useful for builds that rely on transformations to build up stocks easily. What you definitely want to use SCs for is for violent rushes on sparking and when getting comboed from behind by slow characters like roshi and yaj
what’s a violent rush?
Super counters help win vanish wars because it drains ur opponents ki while keeping yours the same
@@petalsxox mashing x while on sparking, at least that's what they call it on training