Well he did pay good money to get beat up a little in moderation. Obviously that goes out the window if you deny that to your sparring partner by going all out
@@MaharlikaAWA If you see a good experienced fighter beating the life out of some new guy that just walked in the gym I would suggest to you that they are not as good or experienced as they think they are... A Good experienced fighter would know the only thing he could prove by beating the life out of some novice that just walked through the door is what an ass he is. Beginners are much better off starting out by sparring with experienced fighters that are skillful enough to teach the novice without having to hurt them. The people I've seen get hurt the most often are when two novices are paired up or the novice is paired up with someone just good enough to be dangerous fighting a novice. Experience has taught me that most people don't like getting hit regardless of experience training so I suppose an argument could be made that you might as well ring their bell on day one so they can decide before they waste too much time. LOL Conversely, if fighting is in someone's DNA getting hit only motivates them to come back for more... 🤣 The guy he describes in this scenario should never be allowed in another gym though... Even if one assumes he did not intend to hit the guy as hard as he did and assume the guy he hit tried to break his leg with the kick his conduct that followed was uncalled for and childish regardless of experience or time as a member of the gym... As a final thought, I'm not so sure an MMA gym is the appropriate venue for someone only interested in the fun/fitness aspect of the martial arts even if it is not one's intent to professionally fight, it is focused on contact skills and the training is focused on conditioning for the contact. There are plenty of other styles that focus more on the fun and fitness and if and when they engage in any contact it's done with lots of padding to protect them. Someone had a good analogy in one of the comments that going to a MMA gym and complaining you got hit is like going swimming and not expecting to get wet... There is a lot of truth to that.
getting beat up is a sign you are in the right place to learn and grow, once you stop being beat up you have learned something and are at the next level. Some people huh
At the dojo I train at, we call it a "Bull Ring", same concept though. Good lord above I start seeing people who preach this "Human Rights Abuse" bullshit (thankfully haven't met anyone who has yet).
I started mma in about 2002 and it was a group activity and a club/team sort of mentality and some time around 2008 a bunch of tough guys all hopped up on these mma reality shows started showing up and I quit going and joined historical European martial arts and I certainly like the attitudes better
My second time sparring some better guys, I had a dude chop my leg 6 times in a row with rapid kicks. I told him to ease up a little, he apologized and we continued sparring. End of story.
@@stuart4860 While agreeing in principle, it is not necessarily easy to gauge your power versus your partners limits. This is why communication is so important in a sparring match.
@@bluesteelgaming2883 when you know someone is new, you give them a light kick or punch, and say to soft or too hard, when i first sparred, thats what they did to me, and thats how i do it now. some big guys have no power and can't take a hit and can't strike while some small guys/girls hit like a freight train and can take a hell of a lot. you'd never hit a young guy/girl hard- they might just fk off and quit- or if they stay, be a world champ student best thing is don't be a hero and respect is utmost. most of us that have trained by 20 years plus have seen both ends of it.
@@stuart4860 Stuart F I understand, thanks. I haven't enough structured training to have seen the situations that would teach that, and when I spar I don't want my partner to ease up on me unless I see it's too much, so I have a different experience. Thanks for adjusting my understanding.
@@bluesteelgaming2883 all good Johnathan, you also have to remember we also get old, when i was younger i could a lot of hard shots. but with kids and a family and reduced training- not so much hahaha. some clubs have a deep end and shallow end, deep end is for experienced people, and generally spar harder, shallow end is for new people- always start at the shallow end and find where you fit best- remember not everyone spars to be a world champ and knock down buildings- some like it for the fitness, sportsmanship etc. most decent clubs run have something similar. new people always have a feeling out stage.
"I don't pay good money to get beaten up here...!" No, actually you do. Every martial artist does, or did, at some point in their lives. We paid good money to a reputable teacher or gym, to put ourselves through combat-oriented adversity in the school, so that people outside can't beat us up with their unskilled moves.
The thing that's even worse is it sounds like he was expecting to beat other people up given he hit too hard then overreacted to what sounded like a lighter hit. When people like the newcomer go on these massive rants it normally highlights their inadequacies as a person.
I knew I picked the right gym when the owner was demonstrating where to place round kicks on my body. She was going maybe 10-15% and was just clobbering me with them. I pay very good money to get beaten up. :)
I like to think of sparring as constructive losing. You only truly learn from it when you willingly accept your losses and analyze your mistakes. That's when you get maximum improvement.
Asked my cousin who was a blue belt BJJ and 10 years wrestling experience to take me down. With the obvious intention of losing and doing just that. Did that a few times learned a lot.
you also realize who is and who isn't your friend when sparring. When a said "friend" is swinging for the fences when you spar and ends up making you bleed, you realize that individual is no friend. He continued to strike me after I turned my back to him. Just a bad person.
Someone should have said something like this to the guy: "Let me settle this thing. Did you or did you not, just punch Joseph square in the face? It's okay to say yes, because we all watched you do it. But, now you're complaining that he kicked you too hard, am I right? Well, I have the perfect solution for you. Come over here with me. You see this? Meet your new training partner. This is a heavy bag. You can spar with this all day long and I promise that it will never kick you in the leg. Have a great workout. You're welcome".
Mr sky guy! You said the heavy bag would not hit me back. But when i punched it it hurt my fist. So I kicked it and now my legs hurt. If I would have seen this guy, I'd of told him Go home and punch ur clown.
This is the calmest narration of a "Crazy Dude" story I've ever heard, but I intently listened to every word and felt like I had just finished meditating once it was over.
I agree to the relativity of how hard is hard. Im a big dude myself at 6 foot 3 inches tall and roughly 330 to 350 pounds(not sure what conversion that would be for ppl not useing pounds and inches as measurements) im also fairly strong due to my size. I had to learn a long time ago that what i see as hard can be bone crushing to others of smaller size than me. What i see as soft can be to hard for some. Im not trying to make myself out as some master tough guy not at all. Im just used to moving more mass around than honestly most probably are so what my body has conditioned as my soft medium and hard is not the same as others.
yeah, my dad was sparring (we do muay thai) this big guy, 6'6-6'7 solid guy and my dad is only 5'11 72 kg (157 sorta pounds) and the big guy grabs him and just starts slamming knees into his ribs really hard even though it was just supposed to be light sparring without elbows/knees so when they got out of the clinch my dad threw an uppercut, no too hard but it made the big guys nose bleed a bit and he had this bitter attitude towards my dad even known this big guy is known for going too hard in sparring which is ironic because he can't take a puch at all when people spar him.
I think he saw 'gym' and came in for tai bo or zumba. When he saw what was really going on he had to pretend. All was working out fine until he got a leg kick. No way back 😂
His son was there and my guess is that the “father” was trying to “be a man” and show his son “how tough he is”. The son will do one of two things, follow in his father’s footsteps or be ashamed and use it as a learning experience.
Jakob W yeah I just moved to hong kong like a year and a half ago, and i wanted to sign up for MMA. I saw this video of him on here and was curious... im a different person now though
yeah, no. one borrowed ancient adage does not equate to being "smart". it may be a good idea to widen your horizons. a frog living in the bottom of a well would argue that he can jump from one side of the sky to the other. am i "smart"? that's not to say that this guy is not smart. he may well be, but that one remark in no way proves or even demonstrates it.
I was "that guy" 10 over years ago when i started training and there was another "that guy" in the class. Some people complained, so the way the instructor handled it was that he set us up as sparring partners and we had to suffer each other for a couple of sessions until we learned how to restrain ourselves.
i had hardtime restrain my strenght once upon a time and my trainer paired me up with a pro i got my ass handed to me and my stupid young self didnt take a clue i still pounding like a gorilla the next sparring session i got paired with the same pros he k.oed me with a hard uppercut0
I think that guy was your basic schoolyard bully when growing up, then he got out in the real world and realized he wasn't the toughest guy around anymore, so he decided to join your dojo to "beat" a martial artist at a sparring match just so he could tell his friends that he won. And when it didn't work out, it pissed him off. I wouldn't have let him come back the second time, there is no point having someone like that causing problems for the people that came to actually learn.
Who Cares probably a chinese from the lost generation...very narcissitic, raised without brothers, and believing all the propaganda from its government
My thoughts exactly. However, (some of) these people have some problems with their 'fight or flight' response. They don't have a flight response to speak off and can't back down or admit to a loss. They see themselves as fighters who attack only. When Joseph (?) was apologizing again and again, it is wise to watch the 'fighter' as he might see the apology as weak behaviour and therefore Joseph as a weakling. This would infuriate him even more when he realises he has been beaten by, in essence, a weakling. He can flip the switch and act fast (before he even knows he's reacting) if he goes over that mental edge. It is wise to be close to him, when that happens, to prevent any of his limbs gathering sufficient momentum to hurt some-one. Be ready to give this guy a hug. But these people also respond to force and intimidation quite remarkably, if you show him he is standing on his two feet ONLY because you allow him to. He will recognize the bigger dog in the fight and become a puppy. Now you have him in a state where he is ready to actually learn something. It's a risky move but worth contemplating. This guy knows he has anger/calmness issues as he walked away earlier. But he has yet to learn how to calm himself. A martial arts dojo is the right place to learn that,... if the student is willing. For a teacher it is nice to have a talented student; he learns quickly and shows that your effort was not in vain but he teaches you little to nothing. Now to have a student like this guy; he will be hard to teach but you can learn so much from him (as in 'how to be a teacher / how to reach your student' ). I would say it is worth your time to contemplate whether you are a good enough teacher to keep this guy around and let him learn something valuable at the risk of putting your other students at a disadvantage for having to put up with him. The benefit of everybody being out of their comfort zone is that everybody can learn something.
Angry man: Punches sparring partner in the face hard Sparring partner: Half power kicks angry mans leg in response Angry man: Surprised pikachu face Angry man: Throws several hour long temper tantrum over unfair it was that he got kicked Angry man: Literally thinks he is paying for the right to punch people with no retaliation and disrespect people It is unreal how some fully mentally developed adults can have such an unsavory mentality. The lesson for him should be very simple: If you can't take it yourself, don't dish it out.
Sounds to me like he wasn't fully developed mentally or physically , taking a leg kick with half power and not brushing it off like you've been their before....Imagine if he got into a real situation ???? Would he say time out??? Or say , not fair , Imma tell mom.....WTF???
@@conways3897 You're not 100% correct. The main focus of this video was ABSOLUTELY about 'that guy', he just mentioned the other time that it was noteworthy and it happened to be 2 girls sparring. I hope this clears things up for you. I won't insult you the same way you did to the other commenter in this section. Remember RESPECT EVERYONE! Have a nice day mate! 😊
Yea, as mentioned somewhere in the vid, apparently he thought it was a win/lose fight situation (thinking with his ego and not paying attention), and that’s why he threw the big haymaker. Then when he needed to exit the ring because of the leg kick he though that he had lost. Thinking that he lost, he proceeded to “snowflake” or “glass-heart” out because he couldn’t handle not winning. What an asshole of a guy.
doing it all in one take shows you have great control over your (albeit slow) speech. But damn, each of you video takes forever, it's interesting but I can't spend 20 min on each of your vids. I suggest some editing. You can at least cut the blanks, the repetitions, and the less important stuff.
I highly recommend these videos for people learning English. The speech is slow, clear and articulate. I wish there were videos in Spanish like this where I could learn from.
I wouldn’t tolerate any person (no matter how skilled or talented ) if they lacked respect for the Art, the school, the trainer and his fellow students. Martial Arts begins and ends with Courtesy. A basic tenant. Enough said.
I think he's in the wrong place then if he doesn't want to get hit 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣 If i really don't like any contact to me I'm not going to go do a contact sport 😂🤣
Reminds me of Rogan saying that most people don't want to fight. They want to beat someone's ass, but not actually fight. This guy didn't even want to spar, never mind fight. What a delicate child. "Glass heart" indeed.
I think I have an interesting anecdote: I had a friendly sparring bout with a guy from the club I was frequenting. So we put on the gear: me having 14 oz. gloves, not going all out with punches the guy had some discount unidentifiable gloves but they looked kinda OK So, we start to spar (boxing rules) and after a few engagements and combinations he managed to get a cross into my face that resulted in trigeminal nerve damage. Then, I realized something... The gloves, although were a bit smaller than mine (dude had a bit smaller hands, didn't even consider it), didn't have enough material in them, when I inspected them afterwards they were around 8 oz. or less and didn't have much padding. They were a bit "inflated" so to speak to make them look proper. No surprise that I felt the bite of his knuckles againt my cheekbone. Before that, I trained (striking-wise) with muay thai guys for almost two years, did karate for another two, NEVER I felt the need to inspect their equipment before jiyu kumite/sparring/etc. to confirm my safety. Everyone used proper equipment. And here I was, half my face numb and mildly unresponsive for about 6 months. Lesson learned. But trust... sometimes is a tricky thing.
"You don't win or lose in sparring, you learn!" So damn true. I learned in sparring my first day that you may tap out 1000 times in a week, but you learn something every time, and you thank your partners for giving you knowledge.
Ramsey I think your fake you know why cause you starting training by your self right because you see Bruce Lee what if you didn't see Bruce Lee legacy you would not not be doing what you're doung right now and you said you can beat him you stupid arrogant
Depends completely on the situation. Sometimes you feel more competitive as does your sparring partner so you go harder at each other and other times not so hard. Or that's how it should be IMO, don't know about you.
'It does not matter if you're better than somebody else, only if you're better than tomorrow' Jigoro Kano It's a fairly challenging mentality to genuinely reach but having a hissy fit over sparring is ridiculous
My thoughts are the bigger guy is s bouncer or someone in a position of power who enjoys beating people up. But in this instance someone fights back and he's not able for it. Typical bully.
That's kind of prejudice of u to say. I'm a Bouncer. I've worked the bars & clubs for over a decade. I've worked at around 2 dozen places. I'm not a bully, nor do I enjoy hurting people in any way. VERY FEW guys I've worked with are/were bullies. Guys who are bullies dont last long in this industry.
Training is NOT combat. I have zero respect or tolerance for people who are rough or domineering during training. They don't care one bit about injuring their training partners. And when you are training in limb destruction... commonly known as "joint locks" and "submissions"... that injury can easily be permanent... Brazilian Jujitsu has a troubling number of injuries and deaths precisely because of jerks not caring if they hurt their training partner, or using training as a competition. People who injure their training partners are bullies and abusers, and I can guarantee you they are doing even worse to other people in their lives, using the martial arts that you taught them. I think this is why in the "good old days", martial arts teachers used to require character references, and would also test the character of their students before teaching them anything. Also, some of those "new guys" are actually there for "dojo breaking"... They are there to beat up the students, and the teacher, and then tell everyone about how your school is fake. That is a different, unpleasant situation. In the old days, the way to take care of both bullies and dojo breakers, was for the Sifu/Sensei to personally "teach them a lesson"...one that they would never forget... but in our modern, litigious society, we have to handle bullies with kid gloves. If it was my school, I would not tolerate unnecessary roughness. I might give them a chance or two, if they were truly contrite and they just did not know their own strength, which is very unlikely as the strongest men I know, all go out of their way to be gentle... and they truly feel bad if they accidentally injure anybody. If they are just an abuser out to prove their own dominance... they are out. The martial arts are dangerous. One cannot afford any loose cannons in one's school. If they refuse to leave the premises immediately, the cops escort them out. If they get physically aggressive... well, in America at least, we have certain inalienable rights to using force for self defense... and it is a martial arts school, so... "Heeeeee Yaah!" Judo Chop. Either way, it is the teacher's responsibility to handle the bad guy, because all of the students are under his protection. A teacher does not allow his students to get hurt by a bully.
@Stirgid Lanathiel Your Sensei should have handled the guy personally. He was using you as a meat shield. The ONLY reason a sensei should allow a student to fight in his stead when dealing with a dojo breaker, is if the student begs the sensei to let him do the honors. The students are under the sensei's protection, not the other way around.
Mate you don’t know what the fuck your on about when it comes to bjj 😂 reading what you posted made my eyes bleed, due to your incapability to string a sentence together.
"Measure yourself against yourself yesterday not against that other guy standing across from you today" I really loved that quote and it applies to many things. thanks
I used to teach a boxing class here in montreal and some guy came in at like 5 minutes before the end of the class (I dont allow people into the room if they're not training). I gesture'd at him to leave and he got angry (like sociopathic rage angry). But he did step out of the room and waited for the class to be over, at which point he barged in again and came up to my face yelling about me not respecting him and that my behaviour deserved a beating and what not. He was so close to my face we could've kissed lol. The best thing to do in my humble opinion is to stand firmly, not backing down but staying calm and rational, not falling into their game of threats and aggression, letting them finish then retorting with a rational argument in a stable tone of voice. They usually calm down if there is no outter interference (idiots usually get primed when a third party is watching I.e. your students).In your case, telling him to get his refund and leave, in a non-condescending or aggressive manner would have been the best option. People who showcase sociopathic behavior like that guy are not worth your time or effort and you always have more to lose than them.
Many of us fantasize after the fact. I think a point that's left out in this little story is, you as the owner of the house lacked the decisiveness there n then to cut him off/out instead of subjecting the members of your gym to his abuse. I understand that every individual is a grown mature individual able to tolerate/deal with such situations. But being equipped to do so also does not mean having the need to subject yourself to such a circumstance. On the other hand, not many of us are subject to conflict on a day to day basis so it could be a valuable learning opportunity. These individuals often prey on the generosity of society at large to advance their self interests. The next time you encounter a situation where the mature decision is to 'let it go', also realize you are inadvertently encouraging such behavior. They feed and thrive precisely on the fact that most people, prefer to just let it go.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages, because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." - Robert E. Howard This modern phenomenon annoys the hell out of me. The artificiality of it is also annoying; I can't hardly find any examples of this 100+ years ago historically and when there was someone who behaved this way, it would often end in a fight/duel etc. who would want to risk that just to be able to be a prick to complete strangers? Nowadays, pretty much every other person you encounter is like the guy the narrator is talking about. I had to forgo an entire power plant job all because on the last day of training, the trainer pulled this same s*it on me, but i refused to put up with it, even at the cost of a job.
“Nobody wins when sparring.” I never thought about it that way... I’m not like the guy that threw a tantrum in your gym at all, but I did learn a lot from this video. Thank you.
That touched me as well. You could say "Everybody wins/gains when sparring", or "If you are not feeling like you are gaining something, the sparring has failed."
Mr. Dewey, ive watched a few of your videos, and i have to say that you seem one of the most self controlled, disciplined people genuinley good men ive ever seen... (even though its you tube) i would find training with you an utter privialage. thankyou.
I train hapkido for a few years and thought I was okay at it. Then a friend invited my to a kickbox class. So i went to it and it was quite a unique experience, cause it was so different to what I learned. So basically near the end of the class we paired up and spared with each other and I got one of the top guys. Since I wasn't used to tight defense with the arms right besides your body, so he landed a few punches. So this other person started slowly and got quicker and I was basically only trying to get avoided to get punched and somehow my defense droped and the other person hit my with leg kick to the head and I went down. I didn't blacked out and gladly he wore leg protection so it hadn't that much impact and didn't hurt that much. So I got back up and the other one helped my and said :"I am so sorry I should have known better, I didn't want to hurt you, are you okay?" To wich I responded : "I am fine. I droped my arms and left my head unprotected, so it was my fault not yours. I'm glad you didn't hit me full force. But that is the risk that comes with sparing. Now I know to never let the guard down, even if that's what my body wants to do. " then we shook hands and continued. What I wanted to say is, that getting hit is part of the process to learn and if that isn't something for you, you try another martial arts that doesn't involve full contact sparing or kicking and punching or so.
Thankfully your partner showed concern like Joseph from the story. There are just too many ppl that want to compete or hurt ppl. Always establish rules first then learn from each & like your partner did, show concern.
my least favorite sparring partners were the guys who'd say "let's go light" then proceed to throw hard, then complain if you come back at them with the same intensity
I like it when you have a good level of trust with someone, both saying "nice easy one today" but as you both get into it have a harder spar but respect and know each others boundaries and limits Most importantly though, have fun with it
You should be (and I'm sure you are) proud of your entire gym. Alot of people would have turned it into a physical altercation or AT LEAST a screaming match..but yall maintained and didnt let his negative attitude ruin class for the day. Kudos
One thing I would probably do the next time I would not allow totally beginners to spar. Also, most people don't understand what sparring is about (improving skills, and not fighting), you explained it very well, perhaps the same should be explained to newcomers. Also this stepping back, and asking for time, and explaining the problem is a very good alternative route to just increasing the power that people tend to do. This kind of alternative way of handling problems has to be explained to people so they have alternative.
I'd ask: "Sir, what is the problem exactly? Can we please sit down and discuss this?" If he keeps cursing, I'd just ask the cashier to give him a refund and politely tell him to just leave. If he insists on mouthing off or escalating the situation, then I'd just ignore him and calmly call the police and have them escort him outside. I'd also make sure to keep a copy of the CCTV feed for that day and make sure to memorize the guy's face just in case he feels the need to get revenge via unlawful means. I'm basically giving him a chance to keep his dignity in front of his kid while de-escalating the situation and preventing him from thinking of making it violent.
I fully agree with you. I'm a Martial Art instructor, and in my Gym from day one I let everyone know what are the rules (being respectful to everybody and the art itself, is among them), and if a problem arises, I expect them to calmly talk to me so that the problem can be solved. If anyone is not OK with that, then I simply tell them that me and my Gym are not the right place for them. But even if they agree with the rules but later on start breaking them, or I realize that a person is only interested in learning a Martial Art to be a bully, I promptly offer to refund their last monthly payment if applicable, and ask them to go somewhere else.
I'm not an experienced fighter by any means, I'm only 16, but in 2nd grade, I had a Karate class as an elective in school. One day, I was sparring, on our knees, grappling and pinning. I was having fun, I didn't see it as competitive, oddly enough, but the kid that sparred against me was really into it, like REALLY into it, and he decided to headbutt me, which wasn't legal in our 2nd grade class, and I get a pretty bad nose bleed, a fair amount of blood on the mat. I could've retaliated with one of my own, or punched him with my tiny fists, but I flipped over, and stopped the "fight". Even at that age, I knew better than the guy Dewey was talking about in the video. I cleaned up in the bathroom, and our sensei didn't call the other kid dumb, he just said, "You can't do that, that's an illegal move." Makeing the experience as positive as it could've been for him, and pulled me up in front of the whole class, and gave me respect for showing restraint, and said that I was an example for them. That really stuck out to me, and I remember it to this day. So, in conclusion, showing restraint like that, or like Joseph or Vitally at the gym, is a sign of strength, and deserves a tremendous amount of respect. To most people, you appear spineless, but in reality, you respect the other party, and yourself too much to do something that you might regret.
The only thing u taught that kid was that actions dont have consequences. Shame on your teacher for tolerating such behavior as well and not taking action to prevent future negative behavior.
I've had some bad injuries from sparring, but i just laughed it off and hobbled around for a week or two lol Your ideas about what happened are right on sir. I found them inspiring.
Wow that reminds me when I was in judo (back then when I was a kid). I hated judo, I hated back then everything about it. I was decent at judo but I knew only to do one specific move. The rest of the fight all I was doing is attempting to confuse and tire out my opponents. I had 0 technique. But there was one kid that was better than me, rightfully so. He was actually doing his best it was important to him. One time I won this kid. That kid got so mad he scared me and then after I got up he did something that hurt my arm (twist it I think) and we both cried for different reasons. I was scared and my arm was hurt and he was so mad and furious. Competing requires a lot of self control, otherwise you will hurt others and hurt yourself.
@@ilyassvids23 That's the one I learned and did for a very long time. I didn't want to do chokes, arm locks or the more dangerous throws because I just didn't want to injure any of my training partners. I'd just do a half point or quarter point Osoto Gari and pin, even in tournaments :))
bryan Brown fella, i get what your sayin.. i gkt anger issues as it is.. and since my training started ive had to work on it.. mostly getting angry at myself for getting hit.. yet ive seen fights where for 4 rounds man was getting battered, and after getting knocked down roared his anger and layed into the dude and knocked him out.. yet ive also seen Gunnar the calmest fighter going.. if i had to choose one to emulate itd be Gunnar, throwing a rage to get adrenaline going is one thing.. but if your opponent is like Gunnar and not easily shocked all he has to do is keep away and wait out the rush and find his opening.. so with 6 weeks training for cancer research MMA im a total beginner.. anger is not gonna win it for me.. so im busy working me.. and my anger..
Oh wow, how did I miss this thread? To answer all the questions posed here: (1) No, I’m not a professional actor. (2) Not everyone is lucky enough to grow up with a father (3) I’m always fascinated by how many young people have never had a conversation with (a) anyone over 40 and (b) anyone with a different linguistic or cultural experience than them- and how shocked they are to hear that other humans are different from them. The world is a big place kids. Get out more.
Dude, listening to your voice is like having honey poured into my ears. I’d handle it the same way I handle the mrs when she kicks off... laugh in their face 🤣
I once learned a hard lesson about sparring with new students. I was preparing for an amateur fight when a new guy asked me for a spar. He seemed very humble and presented him self as someone who wanted to learn from a more advanced practitioner, so I obliged. After several times warning him not to go so hard I walked away from the spar with a broken nose. Turns out what I considered as a light walk through of technique was in his mind a full contact fight. I learned that day that the most dangerous guy at the gym is the new guy not because he is better than you but because he generally has no concept of restraint.
TheOriginal GGHarasser, we've all seen videos with him suckerpuncing people hard, he's not playing, I have absolutely loved seeing him beaten up in the ring now his reputation proceeds him and him trying to runaway and his opponent hunting him and beating him up some more haha.
No, not unless he got a judge to commit his character to a 72 hold & ordered to take medication. The only character he’s trying to portray is a guy who’s mentally healthy/stable & he sucks at that.
I know this was 3 years ago but man this is some good wisdom. I feel like your student from every video you post. I wish I could be in your gym and learn martial arts from you master. Keep up the awesome work and thanks for all the wisdom and technique.
I admire Joseph for apologising. This requires maturity and peace of mind. A true martial artist knows how to avoid confrontation. I also admire how you run things in your gym. There is no easy way to handle something like that. The man was clearly very inexperienced in martial arts and the rules. You are not responsible for his openess to learn though. I'm sorry you had that experience. Would love to train with you some day. Respect.
Pretty good. I think the tall guy was just suddenly worried he no longer held dominion over the zone - it's pretty common to lose your head when suddenly your safety levels drop below acceptable levels.
As you probably know as well or better than I, a rage monger like that doesn't go off specifically because of the stimulus of the moment, such as sparring, or a verbal insult, or whatever else it is. That person has deep-seated, unresolved anger. And that person is millions of miles away from resolution. They haven't even begun to reflect upon self. It's not uncommon for a rage monger to remain at the height of anger for a half an hour or longer. It's a sort of high; it's virtually an out-of-body experience. When you're that angry, you WANT to remain there. Righteous fury, however misguided, feels good, on some level. Unfortunately, that was me, once upon a time. Don't get me wrong- I am not now completely serene, all-knowing and placid, like a monk living on a mountaintop. But I do recognize when I'm having both sides of an argument in my head and just running through the script for no other reason than to feel that righteous anger. It's an unfortunately-necessary skill, to recognize when it's occurring, reel it back in, and diffuse the anger with a self-reminder of what's actually real, in terms of what malice I'm attributing to the other person, and what that person probably actually intended or didn't intend. Maybe that newcomer actually does specifically have an arrogance problem or a disrespect problem, but I do believe it's more about the anger itself, and from whence it comes could be anywhere and anything. You could not have done anything other than refund him, and politely insist that if he wishes to return, he must calmly discuss with you the behavioral and attitudinal expectations of your gym and agree to them before continuing, and that otherwise, you understand if he wishes not to return.
You look and sound like an anime character. I mean that as a compliment of course. But what would I do in a situation like the one you described? Probably the same thing you and your team did; attempt to get the guy to relax.
It is very hard to me to explain what I would do in situation like yours... Sometimes I am wondering what is the reason for behavior of these people... Something is wrong with them; they have been maltreated; they have never been loved; they have never received respect from their mothers and fathers. I hope that guy one day he will realise his behavior and will grow up.
Wasn't his kid there? I reckon the guy was probably talking tough to his kid, acting like a tough guy and that's why he went all-in, something to prove. Then, when he got tagged at mid-power and it still hurt he realised he'd made a huge mistake. Faking outrage was his get outta jail free card...I agree with Ramsay about the kid, that is actually pretty sad seeing your own dad behave like that. And it's sad to think a man will act like that in front of their kid, no humility...I just hope the kid is smart enough to realise what actually happened there.
'Glass heart', love that expression. Interesting that he right away seemed to accuse others of narcissism. Classic example of projection: he himself was one, so to hide that fact he accuses the other of being one. The problem is that while narcissists usually are uncannily good at manipulation social contexts and situations, the ring, even (especially?) when sparring, is that one place where you fully bare yourself. There are no lies in the ring: either you are good, or skilled, or you are not. When you are, you focus on getting better, and thank the other guy for helping with that. When you are not, you thank the other guy for showing the holes in your defense, or the problems in your offense, and you focus on getting better. But don't bring your lies and manipulation in the ring: that is the one place where they hold no power. And that is, come to think of it, why I love the ring so much, even when I get beaten.
my japanese teacher used to say about sparring ' someone hit you, you say thank you, they have shown you a whole in your defence'
@@profribasmat217 got HOLES everywhere , lol
You had to mention he was a Japanese instructor?
Is it a crime to mention people's nationalities now?...
@@testtube6102 its almost a crime to say anything these days,
Theres just no need to mention nationality.Sounds like because he's a Japanese instructor he's a better instructor
Goes to MMA gym: "I DON'T PAY GOOD MONEY TO GET BEAT UP"
cracks me up
Thats exactly why he paid good money
Well he did pay good money to get beat up a little in moderation. Obviously that goes out the window if you deny that to your sparring partner by going all out
@@MaharlikaAWA If you see a good experienced fighter beating the life out of some new guy that just walked in the gym I would suggest to you that they are not as good or experienced as they think they are... A Good experienced fighter would know the only thing he could prove by beating the life out of some novice that just walked through the door is what an ass he is. Beginners are much better off starting out by sparring with experienced fighters that are skillful enough to teach the novice without having to hurt them. The people I've seen get hurt the most often are when two novices are paired up or the novice is paired up with someone just good enough to be dangerous fighting a novice.
Experience has taught me that most people don't like getting hit regardless of experience training so I suppose an argument could be made that you might as well ring their bell on day one so they can decide before they waste too much time. LOL Conversely, if fighting is in someone's DNA getting hit only motivates them to come back for more... 🤣
The guy he describes in this scenario should never be allowed in another gym though... Even if one assumes he did not intend to hit the guy as hard as he did and assume the guy he hit tried to break his leg with the kick his conduct that followed was uncalled for and childish regardless of experience or time as a member of the gym...
As a final thought, I'm not so sure an MMA gym is the appropriate venue for someone only interested in the fun/fitness aspect of the martial arts even if it is not one's intent to professionally fight, it is focused on contact skills and the training is focused on conditioning for the contact. There are plenty of other styles that focus more on the fun and fitness and if and when they engage in any contact it's done with lots of padding to protect them. Someone had a good analogy in one of the comments that going to a MMA gym and complaining you got hit is like going swimming and not expecting to get wet... There is a lot of truth to that.
getting beat up is a sign you are in the right place to learn and grow, once you stop being beat up you have learned something and are at the next level. Some people huh
Back to the wu-wu one-touch knockout system with him.
"If you go into sparring with a win-lose attitude, you're an idiot"
I love you.
This needs to be a shirt
I always win at shadowboxing.
Just Getinthevan i always always lose!
I keep getting K.Oed
Nice! What’s your record?
Joshua Alba Garcia The Smiths How soon is now! Great record
Just Getinthevan
Not against my shadow you don't!
Lmfao, a grappling shark tank is a human rights abuse. "No, for a grappler it's just Tuesday." Couldn't have said it better myself.
At the dojo I train at, we call it a "Bull Ring", same concept though. Good lord above I start seeing people who preach this "Human Rights Abuse" bullshit (thankfully haven't met anyone who has yet).
Baby shark too-too-too-too
I hate people who think you win or lose a sparring match
The winner is the guy who improved our learned the most.
TBDF12 no charlie zellenoff is the winner
I started mma in about 2002 and it was a group activity and a club/team sort of mentality and some time around 2008 a bunch of tough guys all hopped up on these mma reality shows started showing up and I quit going and joined historical European martial arts and I certainly like the attitudes better
Or when you tag someone with a nice shot and they have to boost their ego and start going hard.
U can lose. That is when u fail to learn from it.
Looks as if Charlie Zelenoff showed up in your gym.
imagine dude, ramsey would propably still protect charlie
Best comment hands down
UBF rules!!!
Yea! He'd go in there requesting a light spar and try to knock you out.
😂😂😂
My second time sparring some better guys, I had a dude chop my leg 6 times in a row with rapid kicks. I told him to ease up a little, he apologized and we continued sparring. End of story.
he should of known you were new and pulled it back to start with.
@@stuart4860 While agreeing in principle, it is not necessarily easy to gauge your power versus your partners limits. This is why communication is so important in a sparring match.
@@bluesteelgaming2883 when you know someone is new, you give them a light kick or punch, and say to soft or too hard, when i first sparred, thats what they did to me, and thats how i do it now. some big guys have no power and can't take a hit and can't strike while some small guys/girls hit like a freight train and can take a hell of a lot. you'd never hit a young guy/girl hard- they might just fk off and quit- or if they stay, be a world champ student best thing is don't be a hero and respect is utmost. most of us that have trained by 20 years plus have seen both ends of it.
@@stuart4860 Stuart F I understand, thanks. I haven't enough structured training to have seen the situations that would teach that, and when I spar I don't want my partner to ease up on me unless I see it's too much, so I have a different experience. Thanks for adjusting my understanding.
@@bluesteelgaming2883 all good Johnathan, you also have to remember we also get old, when i was younger i could a lot of hard shots. but with kids and a family and reduced training- not so much hahaha. some clubs have a deep end and shallow end, deep end is for experienced people, and generally spar harder, shallow end is for new people- always start at the shallow end and find where you fit best- remember not everyone spars to be a world champ and knock down buildings- some like it for the fitness, sportsmanship etc. most decent clubs run have something similar. new people always have a feeling out stage.
"I don't pay good money to get beaten up here...!"
No, actually you do. Every martial artist does, or did, at some point in their lives. We paid good money to a reputable teacher or gym, to put ourselves through combat-oriented adversity in the school, so that people outside can't beat us up with their unskilled moves.
The thing that's even worse is it sounds like he was expecting to beat other people up given he hit too hard then overreacted to what sounded like a lighter hit. When people like the newcomer go on these massive rants it normally highlights their inadequacies as a person.
@@bobtheyob and he probably abuses his kid
I specifically pay money to my gym to get beaten up in a controlled setting so that I can get better at it.
@@cosmicdoggo9296 man... LMAO
I knew I picked the right gym when the owner was demonstrating where to place round kicks on my body. She was going maybe 10-15% and was just clobbering me with them. I pay very good money to get beaten up. :)
I like to think of sparring as constructive losing. You only truly learn from it when you willingly accept your losses and analyze your mistakes. That's when you get maximum improvement.
Asked my cousin who was a blue belt BJJ and 10 years wrestling experience to take me down. With the obvious intention of losing and doing just that. Did that a few times learned a lot.
you also realize who is and who isn't your friend when sparring. When a said "friend" is swinging for the fences when you spar and ends up making you bleed, you realize that individual is no friend. He continued to strike me after I turned my back to him. Just a bad person.
thebozeman1000 holy heck, I'm glad the real world is not as full of insane overreactions as youtube comments.
@thebozman1000 Ok Did your leg get kicked?
Straight o, I totally agree. If you watch guys spar, the less experienced and taught partner always has the greater amount of improvement.
Someone should have said something like this to the guy: "Let me settle this thing. Did you or did you not, just punch Joseph square in the face? It's okay to say yes, because we all watched you do it. But, now you're complaining that he kicked you too hard, am I right? Well, I have the perfect solution for you. Come over here with me. You see this? Meet your new training partner. This is a heavy bag. You can spar with this all day long and I promise that it will never kick you in the leg. Have a great workout. You're welcome".
^this right here^
Gold
Fantastic solution.
Exactly. I was thinking the same thing.
@Curt Christensen Relax, Gym Monitor. It's a joke
Mr sky guy!
You said the heavy bag would not hit me back.
But when i punched it it hurt my fist.
So I kicked it and now my legs hurt.
If I would have seen this guy,
I'd of told him
Go home and punch ur clown.
This is the calmest narration of a "Crazy Dude" story I've ever heard, but I intently listened to every word and felt like I had just finished meditating once it was over.
I didn't realize that ! But yes I did too
I'm laughing so hard my belly hurts, this is so true!!!
I believe that in sparring the rule is hit as hard as you want to get hit
I agree to the relativity of how hard is hard. Im a big dude myself at 6 foot 3 inches tall and roughly 330 to 350 pounds(not sure what conversion that would be for ppl not useing pounds and inches as measurements) im also fairly strong due to my size. I had to learn a long time ago that what i see as hard can be bone crushing to others of smaller size than me. What i see as soft can be to hard for some. Im not trying to make myself out as some master tough guy not at all. Im just used to moving more mass around than honestly most probably are so what my body has conditioned as my soft medium and hard is not the same as others.
@@dhill6665 goddamn you're big ( take it as a compliment lol)
@@dhill6665 For everyone: 6'3 is 190 cm and 330-350 pounds are almost 150-160 KG.
yeah, my dad was sparring (we do muay thai) this big guy, 6'6-6'7 solid guy and my dad is only 5'11 72 kg (157 sorta pounds) and the big guy grabs him and just starts slamming knees into his ribs really hard even though it was just supposed to be light sparring without elbows/knees so when they got out of the clinch my dad threw an uppercut, no too hard but it made the big guys nose bleed a bit and he had this bitter attitude towards my dad even known this big guy is known for going too hard in sparring which is ironic because he can't take a puch at all when people spar him.
@@dhill6665 160 kg? BRUH I'M 60 KG!
Who knew that if you spar with people you might get hit. What a revelation. Some people blow my mind.
Lmfao
I think he saw 'gym' and came in for tai bo or zumba. When he saw what was really going on he had to pretend. All was working out fine until he got a leg kick. No way back 😂
Nah that's bullshit why would do a specific thing to get better at that specific thing
You might get hit any time you hot someone else.
His son was there and my guess is that the “father” was trying to “be a man” and show his son “how tough he is”. The son will do one of two things, follow in his father’s footsteps or be ashamed and use it as a learning experience.
I really hope the boy doesn't grow up to be 'that guy'
l. goll Yeah me too, let’s hope “the apple falls far from the tree.”
nah, he´s just rather that way...imature
aha, another diverse in psychology. greetings ^_^
Believe me, if he is aware of what happened. He will remember what not to do for sure.
Listen bro, the reason I raged was because i felt inferior to your radio voice... so powerful! Made me feel like a wimp!
darn it for a while there i thought you were the new guy he was referring to in this video! :D
You're the guy Ramsey Dewey is talking about?
Jakob W yeah I just moved to hong kong like a year and a half ago, and i wanted to sign up for MMA. I saw this video of him on here and was curious... im a different person now though
Jakob WI recieved a sex change and I am cstill taking my estrogen pills... im much happier and less angry
|But won't that make your voice even higher?
"You cannot buy my respect"..great response and very wise words!
This is without a doubt the calmest rant I've ever seen 😂
You said so many great things in this video but what made me subscribe is "You can not buy my respect."
Fantastic, you are a very smart guy.
yeah, no. one borrowed ancient adage does not equate to being "smart". it may be a good idea to widen your horizons. a frog living in the bottom of a well would argue that he can jump from one side of the sky to the other. am i "smart"? that's not to say that this guy is not smart. he may well be, but that one remark in no way proves or even demonstrates it.
This man is a lot like my Karate sensei, I really appreciate people like this.He has great morals
Do you attend Cobra Kai? :-)
Bro you could defo get a job narrating some documentaries
Yea he's got a great dramatic voice!
sounds a bit like Robert Stack , now deceased actor. But cool voice
@pineapple soda, Yeah! Documentaries on how to bore people to death !
Future collabs with mindsmash?
I'd totally get with that
I was "that guy" 10 over years ago when i started training and there was another "that guy" in the class. Some people complained, so the way the instructor handled it was that he set us up as sparring partners and we had to suffer each other for a couple of sessions until we learned how to restrain ourselves.
knock yourselves out......smiles as he walks away
i had hardtime restrain my strenght once upon a time and my trainer paired me up with a pro i got my ass handed to me and my stupid young self didnt take a clue i still pounding like a gorilla the next sparring session i got paired with the same pros he k.oed me with a hard uppercut0
@@abd.tjuliano5829 you still Training?
@@rafaelsantiagosupportkingi9265 i still training but with less intensity because of my fulltime job, i still can manage 2 times a week practice
i find it hard to sparr in the middle i would rather full out fight or go 10 percent like play sparring and mostly i prefer the play sparring
I think that guy was your basic schoolyard bully when growing up, then he got out in the real world and realized he wasn't the toughest guy around anymore, so he decided to join your dojo to "beat" a martial artist at a sparring match just so he could tell his friends that he won. And when it didn't work out, it pissed him off. I wouldn't have let him come back the second time, there is no point having someone like that causing problems for the people that came to actually learn.
They usually are
Who Cares probably a chinese from the lost generation...very narcissitic, raised without brothers, and believing all the propaganda from its government
@@rronaldreagan yes, that bigot was an idiot..he must be to wrongly stereotype...yes, a stupid bigot.
My thoughts exactly. However, (some of) these people have some problems with their 'fight or flight' response. They don't have a flight response to speak off and can't back down or admit to a loss. They see themselves as fighters who attack only. When Joseph (?) was apologizing again and again, it is wise to watch the 'fighter' as he might see the apology as weak behaviour and therefore Joseph as a weakling. This would infuriate him even more when he realises he has been beaten by, in essence, a weakling. He can flip the switch and act fast (before he even knows he's reacting) if he goes over that mental edge. It is wise to be close to him, when that happens, to prevent any of his limbs gathering sufficient momentum to hurt some-one. Be ready to give this guy a hug.
But these people also respond to force and intimidation quite remarkably, if you show him he is standing on his two feet ONLY because you allow him to. He will recognize the bigger dog in the fight and become a puppy. Now you have him in a state where he is ready to actually learn something. It's a risky move but worth contemplating.
This guy knows he has anger/calmness issues as he walked away earlier. But he has yet to learn how to calm himself. A martial arts dojo is the right place to learn that,... if the student is willing.
For a teacher it is nice to have a talented student; he learns quickly and shows that your effort was not in vain but he teaches you little to nothing. Now to have a student like this guy; he will be hard to teach but you can learn so much from him (as in 'how to be a teacher / how to reach your student' ).
I would say it is worth your time to contemplate whether you are a good enough teacher to keep this guy around and let him learn something valuable at the risk of putting your other students at a disadvantage for having to put up with him.
The benefit of everybody being out of their comfort zone is that everybody can learn something.
@@jonasbuyle1341 😳😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣✌🏽
Angry man: Punches sparring partner in the face hard
Sparring partner: Half power kicks angry mans leg in response
Angry man: Surprised pikachu face
Angry man: Throws several hour long temper tantrum over unfair it was that he got kicked
Angry man: Literally thinks he is paying for the right to punch people with no retaliation and disrespect people
It is unreal how some fully mentally developed adults can have such an unsavory mentality. The lesson for him should be very simple: If you can't take it yourself, don't dish it out.
undeveloped*
Radical LeaveMeAlone-ist
Speak English like a normal person.
Sounds to me like he wasn't fully developed mentally or physically , taking a leg kick with half power and not brushing it off like you've been their before....Imagine if he got into a real situation ???? Would he say time out??? Or say , not fair , Imma tell mom.....WTF???
Was the guy`s name Charlie Zernoff?!
Yeah Charlie "Light Sparring" Zelenoff
Hahaha lol
Probably Charlie the cheap shot Zelenoff
Naw dude it was actually he’s dad
Was looking for this comment
So he thought it was ok to punch a smaller guy in the face but gets upset over a kick to the leg??
yeah fuck that guy man, fuck him. what a sore ass loser
He did not get upset over a kick to the leg he was talking about a different occasion of 2 girls sparring dumb ass 2 digit iq
@@conways3897 You're not 100% correct. The main focus of this video was ABSOLUTELY about 'that guy', he just mentioned the other time that it was noteworthy and it happened to be 2 girls sparring. I hope this clears things up for you. I won't insult you the same way you did to the other commenter in this section. Remember RESPECT EVERYONE! Have a nice day mate! 😊
Yea, as mentioned somewhere in the vid, apparently he thought it was a win/lose fight situation (thinking with his ego and not paying attention), and that’s why he threw the big haymaker. Then when he needed to exit the ring because of the leg kick he though that he had lost. Thinking that he lost, he proceeded to “snowflake” or “glass-heart” out because he couldn’t handle not winning. What an asshole of a guy.
Yeah.. in a nutshell XD
My boxing coach always told us not to hit anyone harder than we're willing to get hit.
That's the type of philosophy that we have at my capoeira class. "Don't give what you aren't prepared to get."
ramsey dewey takes 15 min to tell a 5 min story
Ain’t it the truth?
doing it all in one take shows you have great control over your (albeit slow) speech. But damn, each of you video takes forever, it's interesting but I can't spend 20 min on each of your vids. I suggest some editing. You can at least cut the blanks, the repetitions, and the less important stuff.
Or you can watch on double speed and pretend I'm a fast talking chipmunk.
And we love him for it.
I highly recommend these videos for people learning English. The speech is slow, clear and articulate. I wish there were videos in Spanish like this where I could learn from.
Your voice is like Valium, I'm sending you a crate of books so you can read to me before I go to sleep.
Adam West!
I'd like to have his voice
Mr Anderson...
...still waiting for the books
THE BOOKS MAN! Where are they? lol
" If the only thing that's injured is your pride... GET OUT. I like that. 💪
Dont be that guy
I wouldn’t tolerate any person (no matter how skilled or talented ) if they lacked respect for the Art, the school, the trainer and his fellow students.
Martial Arts begins and ends with Courtesy. A basic tenant. Enough said.
tenet, but, yeah.
I think he's in the wrong place then if he doesn't want to get hit 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
If i really don't like any contact to me I'm not going to go do a contact sport 😂🤣
Contact? Fighting involves contact? You, sir, are misleading the public! lol
Reminds me of Rogan saying that most people don't want to fight. They want to beat someone's ass, but not actually fight.
This guy didn't even want to spar, never mind fight. What a delicate child. "Glass heart" indeed.
Sounds like he wants to be doing the hitting but doesn't want to get hit back in return.
“I never lose. I either win or I learn”. ~ Nelson Mandela
"Disrespect does not exist in this dojo, does it?"
"NO, SENSEI!"
Cobra Kai?
YOU CANNOT BUY MY RESPECT!!
BUT YOU CAN BUY MINE! Just gimme like 5 bugs and I will respect you. :)
Wow... Another great video , Lessons to learn... Thanks for your valuable info.!
Honesty is appreciated.
Respect is earned.
Trust is gained.
Loyalty is returned!
Amen
Great quote
@@Axzuin
Definitely my favorite!
Feel free to copy it and use it as your own.
why does he speak like a prophet
The Big Bean because he is one a Martial Arts prophet that is
If Jesus had a voice this would be it
@@joaquinflores3547 h
He has one of those 'coach is talking so you listen' voices.
Dude, the guy LOOKS like a prophet 😂 all he needs is the robe and the beard and he’s ready to start the next Crusade
Folks in my first dojo greeted each other with low kicks 🤔
I think I have an interesting anecdote:
I had a friendly sparring bout with a guy from the club I was frequenting. So we put on the gear:
me having 14 oz. gloves, not going all out with punches
the guy had some discount unidentifiable gloves but they looked kinda OK
So, we start to spar (boxing rules) and after a few engagements and combinations he managed to get a cross into my face that resulted in trigeminal nerve damage. Then, I realized something...
The gloves, although were a bit smaller than mine (dude had a bit smaller hands, didn't even consider it), didn't have enough material in them, when I inspected them afterwards they were around 8 oz. or less and didn't have much padding. They were a bit "inflated" so to speak to make them look proper. No surprise that I felt the bite of his knuckles againt my cheekbone.
Before that, I trained (striking-wise) with muay thai guys for almost two years, did karate for another two, NEVER I felt the need to inspect their equipment before jiyu kumite/sparring/etc. to confirm my safety. Everyone used proper equipment. And here I was, half my face numb and mildly unresponsive for about 6 months.
Lesson learned. But trust... sometimes is a tricky thing.
is the trigeminal nerve damage permannt? how bad is it???
Came for the content. Stayed for the buttery radio voice.
I stayed for both
"You don't win or lose in sparring, you learn!" So damn true. I learned in sparring my first day that you may tap out 1000 times in a week, but you learn something every time, and you thank your partners for giving you knowledge.
dude... You're awesome. And I like your fight philosophy. Blessings
Sparring is about learning, there is no winning nor losing. If you spar with the mentality of wanting to win then you're never gonna achieve anything.
Ramsey I think your fake you know why cause you starting training by your self right because you see Bruce Lee what if you didn't see Bruce Lee legacy you would not not be doing what you're doung right now and you said you can beat him you stupid arrogant
Eugene Porta wut
Eugene Porta Wow ..sounds like somebody is having a bad day. Might you be the one who ate the devastating leg kick?
Thats the biggest bullshit ever.
Depends completely on the situation. Sometimes you feel more competitive as does your sparring partner so you go harder at each other and other times not so hard.
Or that's how it should be IMO, don't know about you.
"Don't be THAT guy." Words to live by
'It does not matter if you're better than somebody else, only if you're better than tomorrow' Jigoro Kano
It's a fairly challenging mentality to genuinely reach but having a hissy fit over sparring is ridiculous
jimmy alderson there's no better person to compare yourself to than yourself.
jimmy alderson do you mean "better tomorrow" or "better than yesterday"? Being better than tomorrow means you're always getting worse.
My thoughts are the bigger guy is s bouncer or someone in a position of power who enjoys beating people up.
But in this instance someone fights back and he's not able for it.
Typical bully.
Amen
Probably a cop
@@timothyroy6234 Bingo.
That's kind of prejudice of u to say. I'm a Bouncer. I've worked the bars & clubs for over a decade. I've worked at around 2 dozen places. I'm not a bully, nor do I enjoy hurting people in any way. VERY FEW guys I've worked with are/were bullies. Guys who are bullies dont last long in this industry.
@@mattjack5830 Exactly, they just call more problems, the opposite of a bouncer
He came, was embarrassed in front of his boy and then couldn't let it go.
@@svmwasthesheet1971 yep but magnified by being infront of his son.
Even when Ramsey is furious, he sounds perfectly came. Maybe just a little bit excited, but that’s all.
That was funny, you could tell he was pumped, but kept his discipline and didn't go off.
Training is NOT combat. I have zero respect or tolerance for people who are rough or domineering during training. They don't care one bit about injuring their training partners. And when you are training in limb destruction... commonly known as "joint locks" and "submissions"... that injury can easily be permanent... Brazilian Jujitsu has a troubling number of injuries and deaths precisely because of jerks not caring if they hurt their training partner, or using training as a competition.
People who injure their training partners are bullies and abusers, and I can guarantee you they are doing even worse to other people in their lives, using the martial arts that you taught them. I think this is why in the "good old days", martial arts teachers used to require character references, and would also test the character of their students before teaching them anything.
Also, some of those "new guys" are actually there for "dojo breaking"... They are there to beat up the students, and the teacher, and then tell everyone about how your school is fake. That is a different, unpleasant situation.
In the old days, the way to take care of both bullies and dojo breakers, was for the Sifu/Sensei to personally "teach them a lesson"...one that they would never forget... but in our modern, litigious society, we have to handle bullies with kid gloves.
If it was my school, I would not tolerate unnecessary roughness. I might give them a chance or two, if they were truly contrite and they just did not know their own strength, which is very unlikely as the strongest men I know, all go out of their way to be gentle... and they truly feel bad if they accidentally injure anybody.
If they are just an abuser out to prove their own dominance... they are out. The martial arts are dangerous. One cannot afford any loose cannons in one's school.
If they refuse to leave the premises immediately, the cops escort them out. If they get physically aggressive... well, in America at least, we have certain inalienable rights to using force for self defense... and it is a martial arts school, so... "Heeeeee Yaah!" Judo Chop.
Either way, it is the teacher's responsibility to handle the bad guy, because all of the students are under his protection. A teacher does not allow his students to get hurt by a bully.
@Stirgid Lanathiel Your Sensei should have handled the guy personally. He was using you as a meat shield. The ONLY reason a sensei should allow a student to fight in his stead when dealing with a dojo breaker, is if the student begs the sensei to let him do the honors. The students are under the sensei's protection, not the other way around.
My sensei told me when we were sparring u get better by practicing with people worst than u
Mate you don’t know what the fuck your on about when it comes to bjj 😂
reading what you posted made my eyes bleed, due to your incapability to string a sentence together.
never done a hard thai sparring ?where i came from all sparrings are hard like tha't you are better prepare for the real momment
tha't why we won the mundial of thai the other day
"Measure yourself against yourself yesterday not against that other guy standing across from you today" I really loved that quote and it applies to many things. thanks
I never lose... I either win, or I learn!
True wisdom
I win or call time out and coach the other student who is beating my ass
I used to teach a boxing class here in montreal and some guy came in at like 5 minutes before the end of the class (I dont allow people into the room if they're not training). I gesture'd at him to leave and he got angry (like sociopathic rage angry). But he did step out of the room and waited for the class to be over, at which point he barged in again and came up to my face yelling about me not respecting him and that my behaviour deserved a beating and what not. He was so close to my face we could've kissed lol. The best thing to do in my humble opinion is to stand firmly, not backing down but staying calm and rational, not falling into their game of threats and aggression, letting them finish then retorting with a rational argument in a stable tone of voice. They usually calm down if there is no outter interference (idiots usually get primed when a third party is watching I.e. your students).In your case, telling him to get his refund and leave, in a non-condescending or aggressive manner would have been the best option. People who showcase sociopathic behavior like that guy are not worth your time or effort and you always have more to lose than them.
Budo Jutsu I think a lot of people that act like that are on some kind of drugs.
"I don't pay my money to get beaten up here"
That's literally what you've paid for
Man you really should take up a story telling class. Damn bro a wasted 5 min of my lie and no huge climax. Fuck I'm robbed
Many of us fantasize after the fact. I think a point that's left out in this little story is, you as the owner of the house lacked the decisiveness there n then to cut him off/out instead of subjecting the members of your gym to his abuse.
I understand that every individual is a grown mature individual able to tolerate/deal with such situations. But being equipped to do so also does not mean having the need to subject yourself to such a circumstance. On the other hand, not many of us are subject to conflict on a day to day basis so it could be a valuable learning opportunity.
These individuals often prey on the generosity of society at large to advance their self interests. The next time you encounter a situation where the mature decision is to 'let it go', also realize you are inadvertently encouraging such behavior. They feed and thrive precisely on the fact that most people, prefer to just let it go.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages, because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing."
- Robert E. Howard
This modern phenomenon annoys the hell out of me. The artificiality of it is also annoying; I can't hardly find any examples of this 100+ years ago historically and when there was someone who behaved this way, it would often end in a fight/duel etc. who would want to risk that just to be able to be a prick to complete strangers? Nowadays, pretty much every other person you encounter is like the guy the narrator is talking about. I had to forgo an entire power plant job all because on the last day of training, the trainer pulled this same s*it on me, but i refused to put up with it, even at the cost of a job.
@@kimsey0000 props for the Conan quote 👍
“Nobody wins when sparring.” I never thought about it that way...
I’m not like the guy that threw a tantrum in your gym at all, but I did learn a lot from this video.
Thank you.
That touched me as well.
You could say "Everybody wins/gains when sparring", or "If you are not feeling like you are gaining something, the sparring has failed."
Mr. Dewey, ive watched a few of your videos, and i have to say that you seem one of the most self controlled, disciplined people genuinley good men ive ever seen... (even though its you tube) i would find training with you an utter privialage. thankyou.
I train hapkido for a few years and thought I was okay at it. Then a friend invited my to a kickbox class. So i went to it and it was quite a unique experience, cause it was so different to what I learned. So basically near the end of the class we paired up and spared with each other and I got one of the top guys. Since I wasn't used to tight defense with the arms right besides your body, so he landed a few punches. So this other person started slowly and got quicker and I was basically only trying to get avoided to get punched and somehow my defense droped and the other person hit my with leg kick to the head and I went down. I didn't blacked out and gladly he wore leg protection so it hadn't that much impact and didn't hurt that much. So I got back up and the other one helped my and said :"I am so sorry I should have known better, I didn't want to hurt you, are you okay?" To wich I responded : "I am fine. I droped my arms and left my head unprotected, so it was my fault not yours. I'm glad you didn't hit me full force. But that is the risk that comes with sparing. Now I know to never let the guard down, even if that's what my body wants to do. " then we shook hands and continued.
What I wanted to say is, that getting hit is part of the process to learn and if that isn't something for you, you try another martial arts that doesn't involve full contact sparing or kicking and punching or so.
I'm just trying to picture how a leg kick to the head would work.
Thankfully your partner showed concern like Joseph from the story. There are just too many ppl that want to compete or hurt ppl. Always establish rules first then learn from each & like your partner did, show concern.
you mean HOLE lel deutsche scheisse meine lieben
my least favorite sparring partners were the guys who'd say "let's go light" then proceed to throw hard, then complain if you come back at them with the same intensity
imunchienandalusia yea I hate those kinda dudes
I like it when you have a good level of trust with someone, both saying "nice easy one today" but as you both get into it have a harder spar but respect and know each others boundaries and limits
Most importantly though, have fun with it
You should be (and I'm sure you are) proud of your entire gym. Alot of people would have turned it into a physical altercation or AT LEAST a screaming match..but yall maintained and didnt let his negative attitude ruin class for the day. Kudos
"Glass heart" means being hypersensitive and emotionally fragile
13:27 and on made me feel like i was either listening to a video game monologue or listening to Captain America give a speech. good video 10/10.
"That's human rights violation!" "Nah, man, that's Tuesday!" LOL!
Mark Norman vibes
Sounds like a great club with guys who have a very tolerant attitude!
One thing I would probably do the next time I would not allow totally beginners to spar. Also, most people don't understand what sparring is about (improving skills, and not fighting), you explained it very well, perhaps the same should be explained to newcomers.
Also this stepping back, and asking for time, and explaining the problem is a very good alternative route to just increasing the power that people tend to do. This kind of alternative way of handling problems has to be explained to people so they have alternative.
I want a pod cast with this dudes voice
I have a podcast. Give it a listen.
I would love to train in your gym Mr Ramsey. Best of luck.
I'd ask: "Sir, what is the problem exactly? Can we please sit down and discuss this?"
If he keeps cursing, I'd just ask the cashier to give him a refund and politely tell him to just leave.
If he insists on mouthing off or escalating the situation, then I'd just ignore him and calmly call the police and have them escort him outside.
I'd also make sure to keep a copy of the CCTV feed for that day and make sure to memorize the guy's face just in case he feels the need to get revenge via unlawful means.
I'm basically giving him a chance to keep his dignity in front of his kid while de-escalating the situation and preventing him from thinking of making it violent.
He's in China, probably like my country the police is not that useful
lol police are not an option in Shanghai.
Had a guy hit me in the head while sparring, shot him in the head. I’m typing this message from the jail
Damn that's crazy 😂
A defeat you learn from is worth more than a victory.
When martial artists are the prophets of peace, love, and humanity. Very beautiful. :)
I fully agree with you. I'm a Martial Art instructor, and in my Gym from day one I let everyone know what are the rules (being respectful to everybody and the art itself, is among them), and if a problem arises, I expect them to calmly talk to me so that the problem can be solved. If anyone is not OK with that, then I simply tell them that me and my Gym are not the right place for them.
But even if they agree with the rules but later on start breaking them, or I realize that a person is only interested in learning a Martial Art to be a bully, I promptly offer to refund their last
monthly payment if applicable, and ask them to go somewhere else.
The voice sounds like Johnny Depp from fear and loathing in Las Vegas 😂 "we were halfway past Barstow"...😆
I'm not an experienced fighter by any means, I'm only 16, but in 2nd grade, I had a Karate class as an elective in school. One day, I was sparring, on our knees, grappling and pinning. I was having fun, I didn't see it as competitive, oddly enough, but the kid that sparred against me was really into it, like REALLY into it, and he decided to headbutt me, which wasn't legal in our 2nd grade class, and I get a pretty bad nose bleed, a fair amount of blood on the mat. I could've retaliated with one of my own, or punched him with my tiny fists, but I flipped over, and stopped the "fight". Even at that age, I knew better than the guy Dewey was talking about in the video. I cleaned up in the bathroom, and our sensei didn't call the other kid dumb, he just said, "You can't do that, that's an illegal move." Makeing the experience as positive as it could've been for him, and pulled me up in front of the whole class, and gave me respect for showing restraint, and said that I was an example for them. That really stuck out to me, and I remember it to this day. So, in conclusion, showing restraint like that, or like Joseph or Vitally at the gym, is a sign of strength, and deserves a tremendous amount of respect. To most people, you appear spineless, but in reality, you respect the other party, and yourself too much to do something that you might regret.
The only thing u taught that kid was that actions dont have consequences. Shame on your teacher for tolerating such behavior as well and not taking action to prevent future negative behavior.
@@ELLINIKIDINAMI I forgot to mention he DID get punished for it, just not in front of the whole class
I've had some bad injuries from sparring, but i just laughed it off and hobbled around for a week or two lol
Your ideas about what happened are right on sir. I found them inspiring.
You have the Carl Sagan voice but for MMA instead of the Cosmos.
Best comment ever.
Honestly it sounds like everyone showed a lot of restraint. I would have cussed him out and threw him out the gym by force
Lol crew that call the cops lmfao
"Roughly translates to Glass Heart" That's a perfect observation lol.
Wow that reminds me when I was in judo (back then when I was a kid). I hated judo, I hated back then everything about it. I was decent at judo but I knew only to do one specific move. The rest of the fight all I was doing is attempting to confuse and tire out my opponents. I had 0 technique. But there was one kid that was better than me, rightfully so. He was actually doing his best it was important to him. One time I won this kid. That kid got so mad he scared me and then after I got up he did something that hurt my arm (twist it I think) and we both cried for different reasons. I was scared and my arm was hurt and he was so mad and furious. Competing requires a lot of self control, otherwise you will hurt others and hurt yourself.
Hey, I do judo, I like it, but I respect ur opinion, so just because I'm curious, what was that technique you know how to do?
Osoto gari?
@@ilyassvids23 That's the one I learned and did for a very long time. I didn't want to do chokes, arm locks or the more dangerous throws because I just didn't want to injure any of my training partners. I'd just do a half point or quarter point Osoto Gari and pin, even in tournaments :))
@@ryvrdrgn16 awww what a sweetheart
Ego never wins a fight.. neither does getting angry.. meh.. poor baby.
SOMETIMES raging on someone will give you a quick knockout... it's a good backup if you're already getting your ass kicked in a real fight.
bryan Brown fella, i get what your sayin.. i gkt anger issues as it is.. and since my training started ive had to work on it.. mostly getting angry at myself for getting hit.. yet ive seen fights where for 4 rounds man was getting battered, and after getting knocked down roared his anger and layed into the dude and knocked him out.. yet ive also seen Gunnar the calmest fighter going.. if i had to choose one to emulate itd be Gunnar, throwing a rage to get adrenaline going is one thing.. but if your opponent is like Gunnar and not easily shocked all he has to do is keep away and wait out the rush and find his opening.. so with 6 weeks training for cancer research MMA im a total beginner.. anger is not gonna win it for me.. so im busy working me.. and my anger..
Love your respectfull attitude. Thats how it should be. A real warrior is calm, friendly and he will never use his strenght in a negative way
Hey Ramsey, do you have any theater experience? You have a very thespian way of speaking.
@@MaharlikaAWA Who uses 'hella' anymore?
Oh wow, how did I miss this thread? To answer all the questions posed here: (1) No, I’m not a professional actor. (2) Not everyone is lucky enough to grow up with a father (3) I’m always fascinated by how many young people have never had a conversation with (a) anyone over 40 and (b) anyone with a different linguistic or cultural experience than them- and how shocked they are to hear that other humans are different from them.
The world is a big place kids. Get out more.
@@RamseyDewey I love your voice and stories. Keep posting up the great content
Traveling thespians
Garry tom tim I was thinking the same thing. He should be doing movies
Dude, listening to your voice is like having honey poured into my ears.
I’d handle it the same way I handle the mrs when she kicks off... laugh in their face 🤣
Richard Bartholomew you forgot to say no homo
I once learned a hard lesson about sparring with new students. I was preparing for an amateur fight when a new guy asked me for a spar. He seemed very humble and presented him self as someone who wanted to learn from a more advanced practitioner, so I obliged. After several times warning him not to go so hard I walked away from the spar with a broken nose. Turns out what I considered as a light walk through of technique was in his mind a full contact fight. I learned that day that the most dangerous guy at the gym is the new guy not because he is better than you but because he generally has no concept of restraint.
The new kids are wild animals that try to kill you, with few exceptions!
Charlie Z 2.0
TheOriginal GGHarasser, we've all seen videos with him suckerpuncing people hard, he's not playing, I have absolutely loved seeing him beaten up in the ring now his reputation proceeds him and him trying to runaway and his opponent hunting him and beating him up some more haha.
TheOriginal GGHarasser I think he has schizophrenia.
No, not unless he got a judge to commit his character to a 72 hold & ordered to take medication. The only character he’s trying to portray is a guy who’s mentally healthy/stable & he sucks at that.
If he's playing a character that's some serious *meth*od acting.
You are a great storyteller!
Friedrich Salzmann imdeed, he is!
I know this was 3 years ago but man this is some good wisdom. I feel like your student from every video you post. I wish I could be in your gym and learn martial arts from you master. Keep up the awesome work and thanks for all the wisdom and technique.
"Don't be that guy..." 12:37 😂 Awesome channel! 👍
I admire Joseph for apologising. This requires maturity and peace of mind. A true martial artist knows how to avoid confrontation. I also admire how you run things in your gym. There is no easy way to handle something like that. The man was clearly very inexperienced in martial arts and the rules. You are not responsible for his openess to learn though. I'm sorry you had that experience. Would love to train with you some day. Respect.
Pretty good. I think the tall guy was just suddenly worried he no longer held dominion over the zone - it's pretty common to lose your head when suddenly your safety levels drop below acceptable levels.
in some dojos, that guy would of gotten hurt badly
i have the up most respect for you
No u idiot inconceal carry in new dojos and stand my ground laws apply when i spar
As you probably know as well or better than I, a rage monger like that doesn't go off specifically because of the stimulus of the moment, such as sparring, or a verbal insult, or whatever else it is. That person has deep-seated, unresolved anger. And that person is millions of miles away from resolution. They haven't even begun to reflect upon self.
It's not uncommon for a rage monger to remain at the height of anger for a half an hour or longer. It's a sort of high; it's virtually an out-of-body experience. When you're that angry, you WANT to remain there. Righteous fury, however misguided, feels good, on some level.
Unfortunately, that was me, once upon a time. Don't get me wrong- I am not now completely serene, all-knowing and placid, like a monk living on a mountaintop. But I do recognize when I'm having both sides of an argument in my head and just running through the script for no other reason than to feel that righteous anger. It's an unfortunately-necessary skill, to recognize when it's occurring, reel it back in, and diffuse the anger with a self-reminder of what's actually real, in terms of what malice I'm attributing to the other person, and what that person probably actually intended or didn't intend.
Maybe that newcomer actually does specifically have an arrogance problem or a disrespect problem, but I do believe it's more about the anger itself, and from whence it comes could be anywhere and anything. You could not have done anything other than refund him, and politely insist that if he wishes to return, he must calmly discuss with you the behavioral and attitudinal expectations of your gym and agree to them before continuing, and that otherwise, you understand if he wishes not to return.
Gonna reread this comment once a week to keep myself out of prison.
I've always found sparring to not only be a learning experience. But an actual fun bonding experience.
You look and sound like an anime character. I mean that as a compliment of course.
But what would I do in a situation like the one you described? Probably the same thing you and your team did; attempt to get the guy to relax.
Looks a bit like Saitama (One Punch Man) and probably hits like him too lol.
It is very hard to me to explain what I would do in situation like yours...
Sometimes I am wondering what is the reason for behavior of these people...
Something is wrong with them; they have been maltreated; they have never been loved; they have never received respect from their mothers and fathers.
I hope that guy one day he will realise his behavior and will grow up.
Wasn't his kid there?
I reckon the guy was probably talking tough to his kid, acting like a tough guy and that's why he went all-in, something to prove.
Then, when he got tagged at mid-power and it still hurt he realised he'd made a huge mistake. Faking outrage was his get outta jail free card...I agree with Ramsay about the kid, that is actually pretty sad seeing your own dad behave like that.
And it's sad to think a man will act like that in front of their kid, no humility...I just hope the kid is smart enough to realise what actually happened there.
@@thapthoptheep2076 yeah but even that kind of thing must have come from somewhere, I guess.
"What is not your right... is to be THAT GUY." XD
Liked.
I've never seen any of your videos or know who you are but I genuinely think you'd make a killing making audio books... Also great content.
do you eq out all the high tones or is your voice naturally that low? I'm asking because the background is clean as well
LMAO... Dude was crazy! Thank you so much Ramsey, for your knowledge and grace... Love love love!
'Glass heart', love that expression.
Interesting that he right away seemed to accuse others of narcissism. Classic example of projection: he himself was one, so to hide that fact he accuses the other of being one.
The problem is that while narcissists usually are uncannily good at manipulation social contexts and situations, the ring, even (especially?) when sparring, is that one place where you fully bare yourself. There are no lies in the ring: either you are good, or skilled, or you are not.
When you are, you focus on getting better, and thank the other guy for helping with that. When you are not, you thank the other guy for showing the holes in your defense, or the problems in your offense, and you focus on getting better.
But don't bring your lies and manipulation in the ring: that is the one place where they hold no power. And that is, come to think of it, why I love the ring so much, even when I get beaten.