The Kamphaengdin (earth and clay wall) was built about 150 years after the old city. As the population spread outside the walls, to protect the people outside the "old city" from floods and intruders, the Kamphaengdin was built just inside the Klong Mae Kha from near the NE corner of the moat (Sri Poom corner) around to the south and east, then south and over to just south of the SW corner of the moat (Ku Hueang Corner). If you walk directly south from Ku Hueang Corner into Kanchanaphisek Park, a 100-150 meter stretch of the Kamphaengdin can be seen.
Yeah, the Kampaengdin (earthen wall) runs (or used to run) in a semi circle all along the east then southern part and back up to Kanchanphisek park. built with the earth dug and following beside the The Khlong (canal) Mae Kha. I've tried to follow it as far as I could a few times. This is pretty much where the expression "hole in the wall" comes from, going back to Medieval times when shop houses were dug into old Roman ruins. From what I've gleaned; the areas around the Khlongs, river banks were/are(?) "up for grabs" so the very poor could build shacks along them (though they can and do get ripped down by the government. ) Supposedly a good place for black market operations instead of renting or buying land.
As a 47 year resident of Chiang Mai Khampang Din was infamously known even to Visitors from Bangkok. There were 3 things every visitor to the city would do, was said tongue and cheek. 1Go to Doi Suthep Temple. 2 Eat Koa Soy(a local dish) 3 visit the girls in Kampang Din. Even today there is some night life going on but as a foreigner it would be difficult and maybe not even welcomed. unless you speak Thai or the local dialect
Yes, there were many brothels on Kampangdin road with prices ranging from THB 20-100, depending on the colour of the buttons on their shirt/blouse. You got a 'free' condom. Some time in the mid 80's, Bangkok sent some cops and they closed them down, but it was still possible to get a '' piece '' if you knew where to go. There were a couple on Loi Kroa soi 3 and quite a few in Santhitam area. All you had to do was speak to a samlor driver. This was before tuk tuks came to Chiang mai. After the cops came, prices increased. One of the very first bars ( if not the first ) on Loi Kroa was Linda's. Don't know if it's still there. I lived in Chiang mai from 1980-2003, now in Isaan.
The big problem was the NGO's were pressuring the Thai Gov't to rage the age of consent, as there were many very young Hill tribe girls involved in the business. The Thai gov't raised the age for a prostitute, she must be 18, but a girl or boy can engage in sex at the age of 15 with any partner as long as it is not prostitution.
I used to use the ones on kampangdin and at santitam plaza, both places were 500 baht, but the real cheap was across the road from the firestation also in santitam they were 300 baht, this was as late as 2010
The river certainly is running strong ( but is was similar a few weeks ago after heavy rain and then calmed ) What’s the Google location of that bridge in the first few minutes of the video ? 🙏
In the early 90s there was a brothel area outside the moat, roughly just behind what is now Miguels Mexican. I recall wandering down there at night once - roads were unpaved, no street lights, old-style teak houses, pretty much the only lights were the red lamps in the front of the brothels. As I passed by one house a mamasan persuaded me to "just take a look", and inside there were half a dozen pre-teen girls. I made an excuse and got the heck outta there!
As a Thai-Naturalize American submariner, I came to those places in 1986-1988...short time/30 minutes was 150 Baht for a "quality girl/virgin with a big rack".
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The Kamphaengdin (earth and clay wall) was built about 150 years after the old city. As the population spread outside the walls, to protect the people outside the "old city" from floods and intruders, the Kamphaengdin was built just inside the Klong Mae Kha from near the NE corner of the moat (Sri Poom corner) around to the south and east, then south and over to just south of the SW corner of the moat (Ku Hueang Corner). If you walk directly south from Ku Hueang Corner into Kanchanaphisek Park, a 100-150 meter stretch of the Kamphaengdin can be seen.
I ve walked that before Im pretty sure we are talking about the same area . Checking yes I made a video back there as well .
Yeah, the Kampaengdin (earthen wall) runs (or used to run) in a semi circle all along the east then southern part and back up to Kanchanphisek park. built with the earth dug and following beside the The Khlong (canal) Mae Kha. I've tried to follow it as far as I could a few times. This is pretty much where the expression "hole in the wall" comes from, going back to Medieval times when shop houses were dug into old Roman ruins. From what I've gleaned; the areas around the Khlongs, river banks were/are(?) "up for grabs" so the very poor could build shacks along them (though they can and do get ripped down by the government. ) Supposedly a good place for black market operations instead of renting or buying land.
I ve found several parts of it
As a 47 year resident of Chiang Mai Khampang Din was infamously known even to Visitors from Bangkok. There were 3 things every visitor to the city would do, was said tongue and cheek. 1Go to Doi Suthep Temple. 2 Eat Koa Soy(a local dish) 3 visit the girls in Kampang Din. Even today there is some night life going on but as a foreigner it would be difficult and maybe not even welcomed. unless you speak Thai or the local dialect
I bet you ve seen a lot of change here .
Sure miss the old days of Thailand, the 70’s were the best.
would have loved to have been here then
Brings new meaning to 'hole in the wall."
True !
Wow that river. Powerful. Hope get some reprieve from the rain. - WW
Doesnt look hopeful
You are a great storyteller
Thank you
The other side of the street are many happy ending and more massage places, so the tradition continues.
Yes I passed quite a few
I learned recently that Kampaengdin means "earthen wall". Also, I think I read that the wall was built from the dirt excavated from the khlong.
Yes I belive your correct
Was built Centuries ago to protect the city from invaders.
The water seem calm on this side of town, thank you for a nice walk and walk video 🙏
Thats because its blocked off they dont want that water getting too high ...
I call it “Friendly Street”. All the ladies sitting on their porches just saying hello.
I bet
Great video too!
Thank you !!!!
Gooday mate, enjoy it, cold here in Aussie, Chaing Mai feels like my Thai home,...
Thanks Nice and warm here
I also like the Hats hobby Bill !
New hobby of mine
That SK money exchange ALWAYS has the best rates in town, ALWAYS better than any bank or any other exchange.
I have heard that as well
Spent some time in Chiang Mai in the early 80s, there were a number of bars, one was run by EX Rhodesian armed forces where all the Expats hanged out
Its not here now that I have seen
Local temples to donation relief for the impacted flooded communities up north
Yes there is quite a bit of damage up there //
Yes, there were many brothels on Kampangdin road with prices ranging from THB 20-100, depending on the colour of the buttons on their shirt/blouse. You got a 'free' condom. Some time in the mid 80's, Bangkok sent some cops and they closed them down, but it was still possible to get a '' piece '' if you knew where to go. There were a couple on Loi Kroa soi 3 and quite a few in Santhitam area. All you had to do was speak to a samlor driver. This was before tuk tuks came to Chiang mai. After the cops came, prices increased. One of the very first bars ( if not the first ) on Loi Kroa was Linda's. Don't know if it's still there. I lived in Chiang mai from 1980-2003, now in Isaan.
I think Linda was here when I came here in 2010 but is closed down. Dont remember seeing it . But I could be wrong .
The big problem was the NGO's were pressuring the Thai Gov't to rage the age of consent, as there were many very young Hill tribe girls involved in the business. The Thai gov't raised the age for a prostitute, she must be 18, but a girl or boy can engage in sex at the age of 15 with any partner as long as it is not prostitution.
Beeen here since 1977, 47 years
Do you remember the House Wives Club up in Nimihaemin soi 15 ? Was open from 10AM till 5PM
@@michaeljcarneyjr.6187 = I forgot all about the House Wives. Visited many times. Good old days.
My lawyer has advised me to say I have no recollection of this area.😇
funny
I used to use the ones on kampangdin and at santitam plaza, both places were 500 baht, but the real cheap was across the road from the firestation also in santitam they were 300 baht, this was as late as 2010
I’d send a bat but can’t find the address 😮
Interesting the article said some had moved over there
Its listed in the description of the video ..
Bill I hope you guys are ok after all the rain 🌧️ I was wondering how you guys are doing 🙏 we got hit pretty hard in Rawai
Here were we live its not been that bad
I’ve seen people fishing there. I wouldn’t eat any fish caught in that canal!
Yes see them all the time there , also the Talapia farms are further south on the river
The river certainly is running strong ( but is was similar a few weeks ago after heavy rain and then calmed )
What’s the Google location of that bridge in the first few minutes of the video ? 🙏
18°41'26.66"N 98°59'12.34"E you can reach it by traveling the road along the river
@@UTCM I have no idea what road you are talking about hence my question 😊
Ok
I have found it 🙏
"Irrigation steel bridge" is the name on Google maps
@@mrmartin2079 correct road 4032
In the early 90s there was a brothel area outside the moat, roughly just behind what is now Miguels Mexican. I recall wandering down there at night once - roads were unpaved, no street lights, old-style teak houses, pretty much the only lights were the red lamps in the front of the brothels. As I passed by one house a mamasan persuaded me to "just take a look", and inside there were half a dozen pre-teen girls. I made an excuse and got the heck outta there!
Wise choice .
How about a video of the former leper colony
I have one ua-cam.com/video/ysUauNb4Pc4/v-deo.html
@@UTCM🙏🏻
By wall you mean dirt wall?
Yes dirt wall
As a Thai-Naturalize American submariner, I came to those places in 1986-1988...short time/30 minutes was 150 Baht for a "quality girl/virgin with a big rack".
Thats interesting was it mainly the area I walked ?
Depressed Thailand unlike my visit ten years ago.
It has changed for sure
Where’s the address? I’ll send a hat from California 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you , Its in the description of the video about midway down . Thank you
Do you have a NY Yankees hat yet?
No sure dont !
A vocational school in Bangkok??😂😂
Thats what it said
@@UTCM i’m sure they did say that.
I like these health centers for stiff limbs
hahahah