Front Fork - Removal & Oil change & New Seals | HONDA INNOVA GARAGE | WAVE | 2010
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Another thing is to NOT over tightened the front and rear axle nuts. Many failed seals/oil leaks caused by that mistake.
Greeting from Vietnam.
OVER tightening the axle nut will break the axle bolt!!! And if the fracture occurs during riding, the broken axle will destroy the seals , and the entire motorcycle can be destroyed in a motorcycle accident.
This is not the over tightening that destroys the seals (because the seals are protect by COLLAR), the tightening is metal to metal, not metal to rubber. The broken screw causes all the damage, which is really dangerous !!!
The destruction of the seals is the smallest problem, the big problem is the possibility to body injury include DEATH
Looking back at the video, I think you're right, I did not notice.
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It seems that the leak is from upper seal that is an O-ring seal. The O-ring held seven years and 35,000km, so I do not think the failure is due to over tightening, although I admit it's possible. very weird. thank you!!!
Watching this I was just thinking I think buying new one would be cheaper and less cost affective. Am so glad you did that ending. Made me laugh. Great video keep up the good work.
THANKS👍🙂
Whats the thing with this 4 split cameras videos!?, how are those suposed to be watch?
I provided a lot of information in this video, and edited it as one relatively short video. You can welcome to focus on what is important for you. Overall the close-up shots are very clear even when the screen is split. I gave numbers to the split screens(1 to 4) in the order of work. The video is built as a fast clip, in the UA-cam toolbar there is an option to reduce speed to 0.25.
Hello sir, my lower damper bolt just spinning, I cannot get the bolt out. What should I do?
4:06
You need to put the spring and the spacer back in place, close the fork from the top, then push the piston inward. The force applied on the damper in such a position should stop the rotation of the damper and allow you to open the screw.
Maybe you will need the help of another person to hold the piston pressed.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling Does it need to push hard?
@@slh0077
Hard as shown in 4:06 it should work.
The spring is very strong and you most to be careful, it can be really dangerous!!! You may get an another person to help you, and if not go ask for the help from professional mechanic in your area.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling thanks sir
This job isn’t for the faint hearted! 😂 Seriously guys, even if you have the knowhow, it’s is seriously tricky requiring professional tools. The time it took me outweighed the reward of doing it myself. Never again. Will be going to garage next time! So please THINK before even attempting this job.
Sir thank you for sharing.
Yes, this is a job that requires a relatively high skills.
I failed the first time. The idea in DIY is not to save money, it's the enjoyment of the hobby. You pay money for hobbies, in this case the money for learning from your mistakes, or the money for special tools and so on.
Do-it-yourself mechanics is a nice hobby, not the cheapest hobby, there are cheaper hobbies than that.
Those who do not have time, or those who do not have the patience for this hobby, the cheapest for them is to go to a qualified mechanic that they trust on.
In the case of the Innova front forks, sometimes it is cheaper to buy new ones than to repair the used ones, and then the whole job of replacing them is much less challenging, and a lot easier.
Great video....Need to do the seal on one of my forks on a honda pcx 125. Local Honda dealer wants £48 for a pair of seals and 2 hours labour for the job totaling approx £150....I bought a brand new pair of shocks for £65 and did it myself without hassle changing the seals
I always work on my forks while wearing my steel toed socks too!
Nice video, it also works with Kymco People S 50. That upper plug inventor should be punished with 20 lashes.
do you mean its better to buy new fork assembly for only 90$ rather than to repair your old one because it much cheaper and most of all its brand new.
I'm not trying to say anything, I'm just sharing. My films are not a course in mechanics. Besides, the new pair costs 56$, my patch cost 90$. I'm talking about the cost of the parts and materials, in the garage you will also pay for the wages of the mechanic's work.
The total expenses, and as an amateur mechanic, the repair cost me about 90$, while a new pair of forks costs about 56$. You can also see this as a kind of self-humor. In retrospect, it seems that only the replacement of the upper seal was sufficient. That O-Ring cost only 2.9$
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling but I think if you have a tools already your costs my less, you only pay for seal.
Absolutely true, but in that case(Honda INNOVA), I could not find a way to make the repair without that special tool which cost me 28$
The special tool was added to the general account. But again, it was impossible without him, so as an amateur mechanic who did not have that special tool, I added his price to the general cost.
@Gary Dodgson Excellent thought, of course you can produce such a tool yourself, or use a Socket in a suitable diameter. Either way, the set that I bought, and made from aluminum, is cheaper than the price of professional tools. There is a unique difficulty here for this particular model, the seal is adapted to the pipe with extreme pressure. That's why you need a lot of strength And power to bring it in place. Using strong force on the delicated seal, without a special tool, will destroy the delicate springs that sit inside him.
See the comment attached in the beginning of the comments area, a comment of Tyler Durden from Vietnam.
Thank you
Look similar to my Honda lead 110
My friend,that's an excellent job.Some details make the difference such as heating bolt removal method or using lubricant on hex bolt thread e.t.c.Excellent job,pro done.I would like to add an ease for kids that will follow these instructions.If you don't have the guide for the seals installation ,you can use a socket with the right diameter and seating surface clean and equal very very carefully.My INNOVA Motorcycling:congratulations,keep walking...
Nice bro..
Great (AAA) video again Tamir. Only 7.000 km on my innova yet. With help of your video's and good maintenance, endless km's to go! Thank you.
Good work I like it..
Hello
Thank you for the video
To injection is the same fork?
Can i put 5w fork oil and how much ml?
Yes, the shock absorber is the same for both models, the injected one and the one with the carburetor. A less viscous oil is possible, I'm not an expert on that subject, but as far as I understand, the amount is the same amount of oil. You can also change the pair of rear shock absorbers to softer ones.
Are you sure the 4 bolts that hold the 2 suspensions need 64nM?
Yap
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling Oke!
Thankyou My dad really enjoyed this.
This video was completely incoherent
I edit my films as rhythmic clips. Anyone who wants to drive into details should lower the video speed to 0.25. See in the UA-cam tools, the gear icon, there you can change the video speed.
This video has more edits than the avengers end game and harry potter combined 😒
You're right. There is so much to explain. I edit the material in a quick clip style. Anyone who wants to explore the details go to the UA-cam toolbar and lowers the speed to 0.25.
il video sarebbe anche molto ben fatto solo che la visione a 4 immagini video accellerate ti fa uscire di testa e nonsi capisce niente.
Grazie per la recensione Non volevo fare un video di un'ora intera. Nello stile che fotografo, senza editing, diventerà noioso e poco interessante. Alcune persone guardano le mie clip con piacere. Alcuni stanno guardando per imparare. Puoi interrompere il video nel punto che ti interessa di più. Puoi anche rallentare la velocità del video a 0,25 modificando le impostazioni di UA-cam Player. Per i film in tempo reale hai altri canali. Mi piacerebbe vederti di nuovo qui.
Pwede ba tangalin ko yung spescer nang shock ko sa frontshock may may spescer kasi
Sorry, I'm not sure I was able to understand your question, it is possible to make changes and upgrades, I do not recommend it at all, it can reduce safety and may cause an accident.
Hello bro..nice video i would like to ask you please my Honda wave- 110cc How much ml oil each fork?
Thanks u
I do not know. Try to see if the parts are with the same catalog numbers. If this is just a difference in volume engine then there should be no difference. But I really don't know.
Horrible way to do this. Get insurance and leave parked on street. Gets stolen immediately and get fresh new scooter.
How it’s done here.
Txt up I the wrong side brother. Txt down is correct
Nice
Hi
Great video and detailed.
I have keeway f-act evo 2012 model and looks exactly the same shocks.
Can we have the link where you bought the seals from?
Thanks
Hello and thank you very much for your compliments. I don't know what to say about if it is the same part as my Innova. Google according to its part name and Keeway catalog number and find the deal that suits you the best.
Tamir, my right hand fork is leaking oil from the base of the fork by the 6mm screw is located? Any advice?
@@pp-si2dm
Hi sir. This is the least common case. So check the main seal on top again.
In principle, the work requires a lot of knowledge, experience, ability, and special tools, so if you are not really into do-it-yourself, go to a licensed mechanic for repair.
The rule is that both shock absorbers are repaired/renewed together. But due to budget considerations, etc., then it is possible to repair only the leaking shock absorber, but this is not recommended.
Assuming the leak is from the 6 mm screw located below, I think there is a way to perform a local repair, that's how I'm guessing. It's without general disassembly of parts. Replace the screw and the copper ring, and put new fork oil from the cap located above... I think it's possible, but not recommended.
By the way, you can also ask a mechanic for a cheap repair, usually without warranty, not every mechanic will agree, because it is not recommended.
Proper shock absorbers are a matter of safety, make the repair properly, that's the best way.
I share, only you know what is right and good for you.
Thanks Tamir. Really appreciate your advice. I took it to a mechanic and they advice the bolt was loose. They checked it and now it’s leak free. I didn’t look simple as I watched the mechanic. Even with advanced tools it was still a lot of work!
nice tutorial 👍 idol keep it up
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Do we really need to pump the fork when refilling it?
Yes, it is necessary
(8:35).
The operation ensures that the oil penetrates all the oil passages in the shock absorber, it also ensures that the quantity measurement by height will be correct.
I see, thanks for the answer 😀 👍
Do I really need to replace the small spring?
It is mainly the replacement of the oil, and the replacement of the seals. Note, for me all the components were found to be OK, but I replaced because I had the parts to replace. In my particular case, the malfunction that caused the oil to leak was a defective O-Ring in the top Left Fork.
Hi matey, a number of people want to make DIY high pressure compressors (4000psi/200 bar) for refilling paintball guns- People are discussing the idea of using motorbike forks to do it - they look meaty enough. Do you know what pressures they are designed to handle? And do you have any suggestions or interest in looking into it... it would be a very popular video I reckon. I might try myself, but need to know the pressure tolerances of forks, plus I don't have a lathe and am worried about getting stuck 99% of the way through the process. With a proper air filter/dryer these could be used to fill diving bottle, too (reserve air source for filling paintball guns). Any help or ideas gratefully received!
Very great editing n make full use of the screen n time. i like the video n love the last part. tamirkr can be funny too!!!
Con el mismo rresorte kitaste lo de abajo para k no diera vuelta
Xtreme bike 150cc fork me kithna ml oil dalna cha he a
I do not know the manufacturer's recommendations for your model. More oil will give you a shock absorber with more rigidity, less oil (more air) will give you a softer shock absorber. The main thing is that on both sides you put the same amount of oil.
How much oil both fork in Xtreme sport bike 150cc
I guess less than the contents of one 500ml bottle.
Only GUESS
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wow great video! thanks dude! Do you think your instruction video can be applied to Honda super cub 110 (dream cub) samely?
Hi. If the structure is the same, then the answer is yes. You can check it in the parts diagram of your model.
Ano po gagawain pag malambot pag sakay palang bumabaon na
If the shock absorber is soft because the oil has escaped, then you need to replace the seals and put in a new fork oil.
The shock absorber can also be stiffened by putting in thicker fork oil (depending on what you have now). I put in 10W fork oil, and I think there is also 15W and 20W.
Other methods: insert a stronger spring, or insert a longer spacer (which will make the existing spring to be harder).
Very, very well produced video, vivid and well explained! Thank you, tamirkr. :)
Nice video boss
How many milliliters of front shock oil is required in one fork(shock) for XL125 l? Please may you help me !
Every model and its specifications, I recommend the Haynes books, which year is your model?
You can try to fill according to level like in Honda Innova, according to height,
8:46
then take out or add oil according to the feeling.
No "special tool" needed, just use a socket
Hi, Thank you for your advice👍👍
What socket did I use (what is the size of the wrench, and what his outer diameter?
And with what technique did you pull the old seals out of their place?
4:52
Free palestine
Very good
Good idea
I have another option of servicing the fork.
1. Go to any service centre
2. Done
You missed the whole point? The video channel came to amuse you, show you how a garage works, teach beginner mechanic the profession, and help DIY enthusiasts who make the repair as a hobby. Hobby as you known need time and money.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling 100% true bro, 👍
Any service centre must have this knowledge to begin with. Great video.
What is 64Nm ???
64 Newton meters is a torque. Torque is a rotary force, in this case 64 Newton = 64kg force, acting on an arm of one meter from the point of rotation. Newton includes the Earth's gravity.
Possibly the best explanation available, thank you
What's that guitar into off of? I need to know 😬
I didn't understand. Give me a minute on the timeline. I would happy to reply if you will giving me a chance to understand your question.😬
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling ahh no worries. Turns out it's produced by UA-cam, not an actual band. Thanks anyway
Bahut achha bheya
What brand fork oil you use bro?
RACING FORK OIL SAE 10 W MEDIUM - 500ml
Fuiiy synthetic
LIQUI-MOLY, Made in Germany
Hey! First of all congrats for your channel i'm a follower of your videos and I would like to ask you where do you get new pieces for the Honda Innova, thanks in advance and greetings from Spain!!!!
I purchase parts from several different Internet stores, as well as from local suppliers here in Israel. I check prices, and invite where the price is the cheapest, including the shipping price of course. I do not know what the situation in Spain. I purchase parts from Greece, others from England, Thailand, USA and more.
One way to find a part is to type in Google its catalog number.
Nice Video and Thanks. I'd rather buy a new one. I think that would be your conclusion too. More power to your Channel.!!!
It's true that all the parts was cost me too much money. If I had noticed the right problem in advance, it would have only cost the price of a O-Ring. The leak appeared only in the left fork from the upper O-Ring.
Look here (Left is Black Oiled):
0:51
the O-Ring here (Screen #2):
8:18
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Bu komik bir video. Gülmen gerekiyordu. Rehberlerimde mizah buluyorsun. Bana acıma? gereksizdir.
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My INNOVA Motorcycling pekâlâ 🤣
Tabii ki sorun yok🤣
Bazen sadece O-Ring in değiştirilmesi gerektiğini unutmayın.
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Woow what a work and good video tnx
The D.I.Y. Special tool at 04:52 you must buy it , or you can create it by your own?
I cteate it (D.I.Y)
Excellent video. But I have a question , changing oil on my forks I've notice that the left fork spring is smaller than the right one . Is that normal or is time to replace it? Or put a spacer?
I did not check if there was a gap between the two lengths of springs, I only checked that they separately meet the specification. A spacer with soft or weak steel will cause damage. I would not insert a spacer. What lengths did you measure? Because in any case a difference of one millimeter would make no difference. I have also shown that when you start ordering a few parts, it comes out more expensive than purchasing the whole fork, so you have to pay attention to that as well.
tamirkr thanks for the quick response. The difference is 2 cm.
Thanks, but I would not rely on my quick response, I'm usually slow, and sometimes it can take a weeks.
Two centimeters is a strange and unlikely gap. Maybe you got two springs from different models? One before 2007 and the other after 2007, because according to the Hynes Guide, this is the gap between them, two centimeters.
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Very impressed...! That's the case and that explains it all.
Bought this bike last year second hand, from the very first look I've noticed
the front fender was from wave (the bike is innova)
possibly they have had a small crush and replaced the fender and one fork.
Tamir thanks again and keep up the good work..!!!
The genuine fork set is very expensive, it costs around 140 euros
Yes
9:22
good job sir and God bless you
kalau baut bawa sok suda rusak baut nya suda dol cara nya gimana
If the screw is broken you must take a deep breath, you must not lose control. Look for UA-cam videos on subject:
"Screw extraction"
Or
"How to remove a broken bolt"
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Good luck
How much one Honda fork of 125
The shock absorber is not completely symmetrical. There is the right side, and there is the left side. Some parts are the same, and some do not. For price reference (pair) looked here:
ua-cam.com/video/Q81TcIfJQ_0/v-deo.html
Can you share manual book link download?
These are the sources I know from the Internet (These are not my publications):
docs.google.com/file/d/0BwmYWlzMWkPhemxqcHUtRXA4Yk0/edit?pli=1
docs.google.com/file/d/0B6EDVo72Y5BfNjIwYTFkNWYtODZhMS00MTYyLWFmYjYtNDFhYTYyMjEwZmEx/edit?pli=1
I also recommend HAYNES guide, worth every penny:
www.amazon.co.uk/ANF125-Innova-Service-Repair-Manual/dp/1844259269/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1330845803&sr=1-1
Where i can find the parts catalogue of the motorcyle?
search in Google
"Honda ANF 125 parts catalog PDF"
And also in the online stores selling spare parts you will find there a full catalog pages
The most good video bro
Is any other oil valid other fork oil that I can use?
Yes, oil from other manufacturers, and oil more viscous like 15W(to stiffen forks), or more thinner like 5W.
It must have a Fork Oil ("Fork Oil" written on it).
I do not recommend deviating from the manufacturer's recommendations: Fork OIL10W
Thank you it was helping for me
A Big thank you from VietNam ❤
THANKS 👍💖
Ang gulo mo mag describe kng paano
When doing this, do I really need to replace the inner ring and the small spring?
If there is abrasion or wear then you need to replace. Sometimes it will be cheaper and of course also requires less work, to buying a new set of shock-absorbers(Forks). Try to check the cost of parts versus purchasing a complete set of a new shock-absorbers(FORKS).
I also changed the parts that you changed, by problem now is how much fork oil do I need to put?
There are two measurement methods, by quantity(70.5-72.5ml) or by height(76mm), see the attached link,
in the split screen at the top left.
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@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling What's the best method?
I measured the available fork travel and it showed 84 mm and I also learned that I should leave a clearance of 5 mm so that I get a 79 mm fork travel. Will the oil height method achieve this?
I do not know the numbers 84mm or a clearance of 5mm. I know what I wrote down for you earlier. The two methods I have listed are equally good.
The two methods I presented work when the spring is inside, and the tube is inserted all the way into the cylinder.
Nice...
not complete, coz without info about oil, to how many,.
The information you request exists in the video. Look again at step 10. On the split screen you will look at screen (1), this is the screen in the upper right corner. There are two methods of measuring the amount of oil, one of which is 70.5-72.5 ml.
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hi I dnt see how many ml the oil? pls
In the upper screen on the left
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70.5ml to 72.5ml
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling 70.5 - 72.5ml oil each fork?
@@elmerindig7280
Yes
70.5ml to 72.5ml
oil each fork.
Not clear... Its to fast
It's fast because it's a video clip. You can slower the speed to 0.25. Click the Settings button, click Change Speed, and select a slower speed.
Hello
How much oil to put in it?
70.5ml to 72.5ml oil each fork.
See Split screen(1), in the upper left corner of the full screen:
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@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling thank you very much for the answer.
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How much ml oil for honda forza 2018?
sorry i don't know. BUT
Fluid level 62mm
OR by
Fluid capacity 121cc
www.manualslib.com/manual/897872/Honda-Nss250-A.html?page=12#manual
What sae?
Thanks
In how many kilometers this work happens ? By the way, nice pajamas 😎😎😎
31,170Km
I was not careful about riding on bumpy roads, or getting on sidewalks. Now I'm more careful.
Other commenter here suggested that the problem is with the assembling in the Honda factory: The gripper nuts on the handlebars were tightened too tight and therefore thay destroyed the top O-Ring.
I have 102.000 km on my innova 125i and all parts are working perfectly.
@@lambrostsalis έχω κάνει την διαδικασία στα 20.000 χιλιόμετρα μόνο! Γιατί το μηχανάκι δεν είχε καθόλου ανάρτηση! Κοπανουσε σαν παλαβό. Οπότε σου συστήνω να το κάνεις κι εσύ και θα καταλάβεις την διαφορά.
@@dimisdnc710 Λογικά θα γίνει λειαν συντόμως γιατί είδα λαδάκι που έτρεξε στις πίσω, οπότε θα θέλουν και οι μπροστά φτιάξιμο
Those 568 dislikes are out of tune..
Very good job!
9:00 1window with the spring how mm?
Go for the first method
8:18,
by volume, it can be measured with a large syringe. the syringe costs pennies (At pharm shops).
8:23 4window 303.1 is to short..maybe is 330.1mm or 333.1 mm ?
Hi.
At your request I have checked again, these are the minimum dimensions that appear in Haynes Guide No. 4926 on page 5 * 1
I do not know if the measurements are too short, I know that these are the minimum measurements according to Haynes' guide, less than that, according to the guide., the spring needs to be replaced.
(303.1 mm MIN is ONLY for models 2003-2006)
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling i have 2003 model....my spring is 330.1mm and has softened a lot so that it has sat down and hit the puddles
@@mogias7
The standard size for the 2003 models is 316.3 cm, at least according to the Haynes guide, so I think you are holding the wrong spring.
On the other hand,
according to the same guide the standard for the 2007 model is 328.8 cm, and I measure 350 cm
(time 8:23)
, so I do not know how much we can trust that data in the guide. It happens, not much, even rare, but it happens that in books, even technical books of the manufacturers themselves, you will find mistakes.
Bottom line, it's possible that (1) your spring did not fit your model, (2) old weakened spring , or (3) maybe you forgot to put one of the spacers? Or other assembly malfunction?
Muy buen video lastima que no esplica en español
Hice las explicaciones del video en un idioma internacional. ¿Hay algún segundo en el que la explicación de un detalle en el video no sea clara para usted?
thx... lov Honda innova may 60 000 km
Where you from bro?
ISRAEL
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Devi lal reset
How much oil is for one
Please observe at
8:17
In the screen (1), the top left screen. 70.5 to 72.5 ml.
Another method: when measuring the level
8:42
Screen (1), the height measured is 76 millimeters (without the spring, when the inner tube is inserted all the way in).
Ganti oli sobreker depan
What is the size of the oil seal?
I only know the catalog number as mentioned in the video
Serabut..
Excelente!! Muchas gracias
Dekhane se pahle like kiya hai
7:55 (3) What is it?
The Four initial assembly steps in order from 1 to 4, on one split screen.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread-locking_fluid
Pwedi po ba ako mag training sa inyo
When it needed?
According to the manufacturer's instructions, it is recommended to replace fork oil every two years (Hopefully I am not mistaken about time). If you will decide to change oil, you will need to replace all the seals. In my case, I opend the fork because there was an oil breakout from one of the seals (the O RING at the top edge). When there is an oil leak, dirt will be stucking on the shock absorber, and you can also see signs of oil moisture. When the oil begins to come out, the fork stops functioning, and what you feel is only the strong vibrations of the spring, in such a situation it is very dangerous to ride.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling so, in my case . My bike working fine from 2 years(new ) so no leakage, so not required so early!!
Yes
Agar front socker ke pipe ka paint kharab ho jaye to kaise solve krenge