Can you stick to the Runway Centerline?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Should airplanes land on the centerline and should they remain on the centerline until they exit the runway? That is today's question ini order to get a general sense of what our viewers think...
On this video the first aircraft, an Airbus A320 family type, is lined up with the centerline but during the touchdown the aircraft goes very much to the left of that centerline while the second aircraft, a Boeing 747, touches down very nicely on the centerline and then later on the runway it veers left.
This video was filmed at London's Gatwick Airport.
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This is why a good runway design is important. Big international airports have long and wide runways to allow for some directional control margin in the event of less than desirable conditions. The airbus pilot recovered it, so no problem there.
Regardless of the wind conditions, you should always maintain the centerline. Especially with multi engine aircraft, you run the risk of ingesting FOD into the engines. When taxiing in windy conditions, pilots are trained to use the control surfaces to counter act the wind. Doesn't matter if it's a C172 or a 747. 👍 Like it or hate it. I don't care. Lol
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That must have been a wild ride in that A320 wow. The 747 is menacing staring head on with it.
That was some intense weather to land in. Liked
It seems to be very windy (wind from the left in pilot's perspective / right from in our perspective). So your question is not fair at all in these two events.
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That´s my landing in p3d v4 in a stable weather lolz
Tbf, a runway is wide to account for cross winds and conditions that might mean maximising the width when you need it. Center line is a nice place to be, but costs a lot more in Comfort to the passengers trying to keep it 100% of the time in gusty conditions. Better to use what you've got when you need it. A landing that isn't on the line can be better than one that is!
It is very important to align the direction of the airplane with the center line of the runway.
This is because if the runway center line deviates much, the plane will go to the lawn and an accident will occur.
My plane is C208, which is much smaller than a passenger plane, but I try to keep the runway centerline at all times.
@223 Remington not if the airframe gets damaged.
It might be due to the winds... the a320 is a smaller plane and easily beers off course. While the mighty 747 stays on the centerline!
Mmmmm beer
Flare, let your rear wheels touch down, then use rudder to straighten the nose before allowing the nose wheel to touch down. The problem with assessing the first aircraft's pilot performance is that we don't know if they simply slammed the nose down or a gust of wind did it for them. I'm assuming an unexpected downdraft, since crosswind landings are pretty commonly flown in the simulator during training.
do you have the METAR for that time? In the film looks like it is marginally above minimums
Centreline control is important, especially on a contaminated runway. IMHO correct crosswind inputs become more important the larger the plane is. Keep “flying” the plane all the way down to taxi speed with into-wind aileron and rudder.
heavy crosswinds omg
Should you stick to driving in one lane at all times? Yeah, but when you get a heavy gust of wind from the side you're bound to get blown over to the other side. This was obviously a very windy day and landing would have already been more of a challenge. The landings themselves were on the centerline, quit whining.
A320 forgot to make a minor rudder input while flaring, so it haven't landed with wheels parallel to the centerline, and I think that 747 was pushed by the wind of the runway.
Try landing any aircraft in cross wind especially heavy in straight line--Big Trouble--Takes experienced pilot to land these big boys in strong cross wind!!
ILS to minimums? Really tough because you are IMC and tracking the needles(GS and Course Guidance) and then you break out. Hopefully you see the MALSR light??? If not then Missed Approach.
When I instructed I’d always act super surprised and concerned “what’s this massive line to my right on the runway????”
The centre line is a guide, you should always try and maintain it, but there is a safety margin for a reason.
So it’s not only me who can’t land on the centerline
At least you can land (and leave walking)
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Must have been difficult conditions to land
I identify as a medium intensity approach light system.
same brother
Hard to maintain the jet in the center when wind conditions are rough.. I’m sure that 1st jet would perfectly stay aligned in the center if there wasn’t any crosswinds.
just land on the runway...who cares...hehehehe....no actually they should attempt to maintain the centre line as much as able during landing and exiting the runway
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looks like the wind was pushing them over that tail wing on 2nd plane was moving left to right same as the planes landing.
it depends on the wind conditions.
That must be the mother of all cross-winds, lol.
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Super foggy and windy , but they landed those suckers !!!
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Give the 747 a ticket. It's got a headlight out on its starboard wing !
Absolutely, else they could all land together in a big concrete ground
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Centerlines are for captains
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That 747 is one bad MF'er
Really not worried about it because I don't have any airplane :)
The 2nd plane was almost perfect. Was that a 747 and was that you, CB 😎. It looked like your white 747.
The 747 did depart as well.
It’s an airbus pilot, what did you expect. They are only vaguely aware of a rudder in their aircraft.
I have flown with many pilots in many different types who seem unable to remove the crab at touchdown. Many of them managed to skip the de-crab on Boeings. The rudder on a Bus works great if you know how and when to use it.
Hehehe. Twat.
So what you're saying is that a Airbus pilot on a plane that is massively affected by crosswind compared to a 747 is worse than a Boeing pilot who for some reason leaves the centerline mid runway? Ok buddy
In which airport is this?
London Gatwick
I see
Masters at work..LOL
Somebody took the time to Paint the darn thing so use it !.... all the time !
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modern autopilot can land in any landable conditions so pilots need to drop their egos and think about passenger safety and let autoland do its job.
Autoland has its environmental limitations. When the prevailing winds are higher than the allowable limits, it is unsafe to use the autopilot to land the aircraft. The pilot would have to fly it manually.
Tell that to Ethiopian/Indonesia flights ~ 737 max 8.