Italy is Building a New Tech Capital
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2022
- This digital twin is turning an area of Milan into Italy's new tech capital.
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How is this not talked about more? As an Italian i NEVER heard of this project. Just shows how Italy is really just terrible at selling its projects
Same and also living close to Milan
Same for me... from near Milan
Perché Milano è l’unica vera città tecnologica d’Italia.
Nonché l’unica ad avere grattacieli
perchè non è pronto ancora :D
@@matthewmurdock7329 ma cosa c'entra LOL
Thank you from Milan, appreciate this documentary. Really proud of this project ❤
You're welcome, and you should rightly be proud! Thanks for watching 🙌
least Italian username
ma cambia username dioken
@@boweryst11 come si chiamava?
@@francescoalexgiacalone878 boh tipo i love pizza.. e mi puzzava si spam
Milan is enjoying an urban renaissance. New underground lines, the 2026 Winter Olympics, new museums, 20 new parks expected to open before 2030, new university campuses, fab labs, startup incubators and co-working spaces, a thriving cultural scene, new bike lanes, concerts, events... the city radiates positive vibes, you can feel them when you get there. I love Milan!
I live in Milan not far from MIND area. It is a huge project, Italy needs this kind of investments in scientific research for base knowledge and business
so when italy makes it it's cool when other countries ooh waste we don't need more tech
Yes, agreed. The world needs pizza 2.0 and the first step to that is investment and scientific research.
No not really
What's the current progress?
Is it going smooth or it has halted?
I can't find any news about this city anymore
@@javierpacheco8234spanish is very poor, italy acquisided all the spain.baecellona ,Madrid,rest24% homeless, because spain is identik ta Naples, italy itis razist with Naples .full of mafias in spain ,i cry,you foodless
I remember going to Milan back in 2011 and seeing a bunch of signs advertising the new high rises going to be built. Now it looks like I should go back in a few years to see an almost new city!
Bro, I was born in Milan and I've lived there for almost 13 years. Then I moved away... In the last 11 years the city has changed a lot. Not only the metro has enclarged, but also a lot of renovation has been done in common streets, lots of monuments have been restored, but also a whole new skyscraper centre has been built. The expo in 2015 and the coming Winter Olympics in 2026 have been great excuses for renew the entire city.
It started in the early 2000s, now the city is in the middle of its renaissance after decades of stagnation. The change it's gone through is amazing. You should definitely come back and visit!
Considering how things work here, we're gonna have to wait a looooong time in order to see anything finished. Still waiting for the m4 which is about 4 years late
@@andrea_8431 did you forget about covid?
@@Hi-zy9xq that covers no more than 2 years (1 actually since since work restarted last year). Also i was wrong, they planned to finish it in 2015 for the expo, so it's 7 years now
This is super interesting! What comes to my mind when hearing about these very modern developments in Italy‘s north is the north-south divide in the country. A video on that from a construction perspective (e.g. infrastructure development) would be awesome!
Living in Rome I can say that the difference is unfortunately quite substantial. I personally didn't even know about this project. I'd like a video about it. maybe a comparison with other EU countries. As always great video.
Lol, it says Carbon neutral by 2040. By that time there won’t be any Italians left to populate that district, since Italy already has one of the oldest populations in the world!
@@khaldrago911 Italy is a Republic. Milan is quite cosmopolitan, even though some cities in Europe are way more multicultural than Milan. We don't know what the future holds. The country needs to improve its social policies, that is for sure.
@@carlomontecarlo7881I hope it works out for y’all. I sure am rooting for y’all. Best wishes from the USA.
@@khaldrago911 well first of all, 2040 is in just 18 years, you're saying everyone will die in 18 years lol
Then: "the descendants of the great empire"? Do you mean the roman empire? Man that was so long ago I don't think anyone descends from that anymore. We're talking thousands of years ago. The "actual Italians" aren't some sort of ethnicity that descends from something or anything like that, they're just the people who live here.
I love Italy. Hope this project is a huge success.
Milan is not Italy.
@@lorenzoalcamisi3495 e pensare che la capitale del "regno di Italia " di Napoleone era proprio Milano.
@@lorenzoalcamisi3495 e cos’è?😂
@@Maubald visto....sono gli effetti collaterali dell' imbecille padano salvini. ha creato dei burattini rincretiniti.
@@lorenzoalcamisi3495 LMAO
Milan, the only Italian city which doesn't just look at the past but also at the future! A pride of Italy 🇮🇹. Hope this project will be successful.
Imagine news outlets reported on stories like this instead of the relentless doom and gloom we're fed on a daily basis. Would really give people a brighter outlook on life I reckon
Where are you from? because I really feel the same
Absolutely true.
Agreed
I think digital twins will really make a big impact in the coming years. It will just require that difficult first step of implementing them correctly in the first place, then further additions should be fairly easily*. I'm keen to see how well this one progresses!
If the buildings offers the sensors to monitor inputs and outputs, the data generated that way could be used to train the (AI) digital twin model. Of course - easier said than done.
@@VanDerPol ... buildings offer*/the building* offers ...
Amazing project, this is what makes me proud of beign Italian 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Finally some innovative projects with international attention.
For me really sad becuase you guys have great architecture and styles and were unique, all you guys are doing now is copying and being influenced by the boring trend of modern architecture of today.
You're all going to lose your mind when I tell you that the woman being interviewed is actually the suit maker in The Incredibles and then you'll lose it even further when you realise her name is Edna Mode.
Omg. Now I can't see her any other way
Exactly what I thought
One of the most interesting videos you guys have posted this year 👌
Just bought my first house in Milan, love the city
Where are you from?
Great content, Tomorrow's build. It's good to see this kind of project in Italy... Thanks for this, I start creating similar content recently.
Forza Italia 🇮🇹
Milan is not famous only for fashion, art and design (!) but also for medical research, in wich it is at the forefront in Europe and in the World
Besta neurological institute, Galeazzi orthopaedic institute, San Raffaele, Niguarda, Humanitas, you name it
Bolonia too
You got me good at football teams 😂
😂😂😂
Ac milan is great while inter is shit
Very innovative! Thanks for sharing.
Fascinating technology. Good luck, Italy.
This is SO cool. It's projects like this that inspire me to get out of bed every day. (I'm an urban planner!) 👌
I live in Milan, I hope that projects like this will be the beginning of a new concept of production and development
If it works, we could make the whole country like that. But still, half of the country is basically a museum, the other half is property of the Vatican.
It wouldn't be easy. Or fast. 😑
@@danielefabbro822 Intendi riempire l'Italia di architettura moderna?
@@alessandrogambino2488 Appunto. Dobbiamo mantenere la nostra identità, non possiamo omologarci agli altri. Costruire grattacieli "freddi" e privi di carattere artistico. C'è un motivo se tutto il mondo viene a visitare l'Italia ogni anno. Non possiamo assolutamente comportarci da pecore e seguire quello che gli altri fanno. Identità italiana 🇮🇹
@@auroracosta8058 Esattamente
@@auroracosta8058 Da ragazza di 22 anni concordo appieno. Io ho alcuni amici e amiche negli Stati Uniti e loro dicono che la nostra architettura è molto più "Sexy" e "Aesthetic" come dicono loro. Ovvio, si può evolvere ma l'identità non può essere stravolta cazzo.
As an italian looking at this I hope this goes forward, like this is not enough..
Milan is still very polluted, I had to live in the summer there and it was awful. Without an air conditioning system is crazy to live there. There are way too cars going around and bike paths have to be still built in a correct way. Even if Milan is one if not the most modern city of Italy still has a lot to do in order to be compared with other more green and sustainable european cities. I lived until my 30s in Varese and when I was hiking on a mountain and looking towards Milan I couldn´t see the city but a big cloudy and foggy area due to pollution...
Milan is improving though, there's a project (forestami) whose aim is to plant 3 million trees by 2030 - more than 330'000 trees have been planted already. The city is adding new parks thanks to the redevelopment of its abandoned railways + it is adding a new underground line. That being said, summers have become very hot and humid, but that isn't just a problem Milan faces, it is a global problem. I also read Milan has the highest amount of LEED-certified buildings in mainland Europe.
@@carlomontecarlo7881 I read that about the trees and also about a big project of a cycling lane, still 2030 is too far away! I live in Düsseldorf and within a 1 year span I saw radical changes everywhere such as bike lane improvements, renewal of old buildings, ugly buildings torn down within few months and so on. Riding a bike in Milan (and Italy) in general is still too risky and there are around too many cars. I wish with all myself that Milan will change asap and drastically reduce pollution. If you see the european air cleanliness statystics you should figure out how far beyond is northern Italy around this thema.
@@zorrothescoundrel well, Milan is advancing at a fast pace - 10 years ago there was no Porta Nuova Business District, no CityLife, no renewed darsena. Monuments were cleaned up, new museums opened (The design museum just last year, museum of the illusions, Mudec, Armani Silos, Fondazione Prada). I think you also need to keep in mind that Milan has a huge metro area (7.4 million people according to OECD) and that the North of Italy is suffering from air pollution because of its geography (Alps and the Appennines blocking the wind that could otherwise flow from the seas).
Bike lanes need to improve but they're constantly upgrading the system. BikeMi is now available in the suburbs, Area B was introduced and you cannot drive euro 4 cars in the city. The bus fleet is being upgraded (new electric vehicles). Milan was the 5th city in Europe to adopt apple pay as a method of payment in its underground network. It has tons of car/bike/escooter sharing schemes. Linate Airport will be connected to the city via the new underground line before the end of the year and the city's "S-bahn" is expanding - there will be a new "Circle line" before the 2026 winter Olympics games.
I understand things could be better, but Milan and Italy are always criticised harshly just because it's normal to view Italy as a dysfunctional place when, in fact, it isn't so bad. About biking, I cycled from Treviso to ostiglia (Mantua) myself and there are many beautiful cycle paths in the North of Italy. I took the ICE Trains in Germany and they were always late - high speed trains in Italy work better in my opinion. 🤷🏻♂️
@@basilmagnanimous7011 Excuse me, I don't like your condescending and frankly offensive comment.
1. I did not give excuses, geography does impact air quality. It is not an excuse but a fact. Citing the measures Milan is implementing to curb pollution also equals to citing facts (and it also shows Italy is trying to tackle the climate crisis in a serious way);
2. Italy's North is the most industrialised part of the country (and Italy's the 2nd largest manufacturing country in the EU). Most of Italy's population & most of Italy's industries are located in the Po Valley. Italy decreased its carbon emissions by 19,4% from 1990 to 2019 and has a lower carbon dioxide emissions per capita than the European union average (5.38 metric tons vs 6.6 metric tons in the EU) in 2018, data from the World Bank. The Netherlands (who supposedly has a better air quality record than Italy) has the 4th highest emissions value per capita (8.77). So yes, geography does impact the way air pollution behaves.
3. About your comment on Venice/Italy, I won't comment on that - I think it shows how narrow-minded, prejudiced and xenophobic you are. And that's not a good mentality.
@@basilmagnanimous7011 I think your reading comprehension skills aren't the best to say the least. No one wrote Italy is an idyllic place (even though it is a very beautiful land and I consider myself lucky to live here - so there is no need to cry for me - worry about yourself first). Maybe you're a tad frustrated, I don't know. If you're unable to process the fact that Milan is progressing and that Italy isnt a "Cemetery", that is on you.
Every country has some issues with crime etc - Berlin has criminal gangs, the airport was set to open in 2012 and opened in 2021. Sweden re-examined its asylum policy. The UK also has a North-South divide. France is said to have problems with the banlieues and structural racism. The demographic problem applies to every country in Europe where the TFR is below 2.2 kids/woman. The Volkswagen emissions scandal didn't happen in Italy. The largest money laundering scandal in the EU happened in Denmark (at Danske Bank), not in Italy either. The Austrian government fell months ago because of corruption scandals.
Here's a piece of advice: arrogance won't get you far in life. The higher the pedestal, the harder you'll fall.
Your truth isn't the truth, I'm sorry to burst your bubble. Newsflash - you can live a good life in Italy. The fact Italy has issues doesn't mean we should "let it sink" - now I ask you, what's wrong with trying to invest in new technologies to advance the economy and improve the socio-economic prospects of the country? Cause that is what this video is about. If you want to keep babbling about what is on your mind, do it, I will have a laugh. Come back when you've got something constructive to say, if you're capable of holding a conversation.
I love me some green high tech architecture!
So sad when it comes to innovation and technology Milan is the only Italian city mentioned, and some other places in North Italy. Central and South Italy has become just the fading shadow of its glorious past.
People's mentality, here in the North we are different than the rest of you in Central and Southern Italy. We are more linked to entrepreneurship, we don't wait the help of the Government like you do.. We simply act without the support of anything If not ourselves
Nobody cares about central and south Italy tho. Have you ever heard news of Marseille or Manchester? No because people are only interested in great cities like London, Paris, Milan and Barcelona/Madrid
@@scrollux5182 shit and then again shit.. there are many regions in Europe where wealth is concentrated in the small towns of the countryside too. For instance, here in Northern Italy there is also a "local divide" where the most prosperous cities are those at the foots of the Alps and they are more successfull that the others of the main plateau of the country.. so again, It's people mentality
@@davidetoffoletto9981 your reasoning is way too simplistic and, let me say, stupid. Try to create a startup with high innovation content in a small South Italy town like I did three years ago, then we can talk again if it's just "people's mentality" or the total lack of services, infrastructures, qualified people, high taxes, etc
@@Bruno-P "total lack of services, infrastructures, qualified people".. see the point? It's people mentality
Thanks for the great video as always! It is nice to see digital twins being leveraged in such prestigious projects. At THING TECHNOLOGIES we do something very similar and are proud to be the brain of one of europe's smartest buildings, "the Cube" in Berlin.
It will be so interesting to see buildings interact with each other (and their tenants) on a scale like at Mind.
I’ve been followed this channel for long time. But also I need to wait for new videos for long time too…😂. I know you work hard…keep pushing! 👊🏻
It's typical: comments from Italians here always repeat the same "It's fake/it will never work/bla bla bla" mantra. Please, let this project grow and develop in full scale, and THEN you will judge!
It was inspiring to me as I really like this city and feel me want to revisit.
Milan Is in continuous change, hope you'll come back soon!!
Very interesting concept
Didn't know about this second channel. More B1M-like content is great
Wow. As an IT professional, I can say that FINALLY!!! someone is doing this. Let's hope they implement this in a good way. Thank you for sharing!
yes, but let them tell you also that IT are underpaid, unpaid overtime and all the underlaying shit of italy, not to mention the "racism" between north and south, including the development part.
@@notscar Yeah, I've heard that in Italy IT people are not seen as high class as a plumber or a blacksmith. But it's similar to asking your grandpa to fix the router.
@@tuams Yea that's kinda of the situation, you are seen as somone that is kinda high class, and researched as an employee but u won't get high salary, or anything else, when u can go for example in switzerland which is not that far from italy, and have a much higher quality of life, and a better salary.
This is the first time I'm hearing about digital twins, every time I see applications of AI and IoTs I am mind blown
I literally live 10 minutes away from MIND and didn't know any of this! The only thing I know is that within 3 years they built a giant hospital 20-storey high. (In Italian building speed standards that's very fast, I can assure you.)
Have you seen any progress on this project?
@@fabio.1 To be honest I still haven't been there. The hospital is up and running though, that I'm sure.
@@davidebic good 👍
Love the information!
I hope the project becomes a success. I love Italy even though I've never been there lol
I hope you can visit very soon :)
@@spaghettistefI will. I want to learn decent Italian before I go however. I’m fluent in Spanish so that’s making the process very easy 😁
if I have to guess based on our national history, it will be a fluke, it will never work and something like 10 people among administrators and politicians will illegally reap all the funds for themselves. Look at what they did with MOSE in Venice. This country is sick to the bone, Milan alone cannot carry us all into an age of technology and innovation. Or maybe something is different now and this will actually amount to something good, who knows?
Milan will be the city of the future.
I am tired of reiterating this again and again, healthy green environment is just not attained by attaching tress onto building, it is by doing reforms,making walkable cities with good and phenomenal public transport. Not to mention, Italys culture is seen and reflected in its building (unlike countries like America and England,who seemingly champion grey huge blocks) ,why would you wanna sacrifice something so beautiful?
Don't worry I can tell you that they will never finish it if they will start, just for a road or a sidewalk, it takes around 6 months to do one...
But it could b nice... Plus, some have the funds to attach trees to buildings... It will be done. Sure that energy could b used in a better way, but people will want trees on buildings
Sure trees on buildings is not a solution for global air pollution... But it is a solution for rich twats wanting to live in a city and also have some greenery in front of their home.
What you said also needs to be done. But trees on buildings is a solution luxury for the few, not a solution to global issues.
@Emile Hote and who are you to say so? Many firms are already operating at MIND Milano, including giants like AstraZeneca, E.On and SkyDeck (Berkeley University's incubator) - it is happening
Is this the b1m person? Glad to see they're growing!
Really amazing
So Milan is gaining a new suburb. 😍👌🏻✨
really cool
Can't wait for this to be finished!
Non vedo l'ora che sia completato!
I'm very proud of my city right now
Now this is what I want to see on this channel, not some silly Metaverse. Great video :)
That architecture is trash. It is the same ugly boring modern architecture being made everywhere.
Wow a tech capital? It's amazing how tens of thousands of cubicals packed inside a beautiful building can be praised.
yep.....
Digital Twin in architecture is BIM x3 enhanced.Just like CAD/CAM improved manufacturing so Civil Engineering will greatly benefit from it.
*I love this , is like Dubai post expo district project* 🇮🇹❤🇦🇪
Will be in Italy this summer. Great trip planned and my only regret is that I don't have enough time to visit Milan. Oh well, guess I'll have to plan another trip.
As an Italian: don't worry Milan is the last one on the list of things you should visit in Italy. Palermo, Napoli, Genova, Firenze, Venezia, Roma, Bologna, Torino ecc the list is long, all better in terms of art architecture. Milan is a decent city in term of art and architecture by European/Global standards but is not by Italian standards. Of course if you want to see the most developed Italian city Milan is first choice but even in that case I don't think is worth visiting, in Europe you can find cities that are 20 yeas ahead in terms of development ( Wien, Rotterdam, Frankfurt...). Consider also that Milan is the most expensive place in Italy, which if is a low cost vacancy you might take in consideration.
@@silva3658 - Thanks! Yes, will be visiting Napoli, Firenze and Roma along with a number of locations in Toscana in addition to Firenze. Too much to see in such a beautiful and historic country!
@@johnmininger7472 trust me go to Bologna if you can. It's clean, plenty of young people, plenty of history and art, cheaper than any other touristic Italian city. In 1/2 day you already visited it. It's not that far from Florence. I visited Florence, Venice, Turin, Rome and many other in Italy but Bologna is my favourite Italian city by far. Ofc some of the city i mentioned are bigger and have more in quantity, but the fact is that Bologna it's the best in considering multiple factors other than art and architecture. They usually won't try to scam (which is something I may warn you about in Florence and Rome for example, be careful restaurant put always prices outside if there's no price outside don't go inside), the prices are on the average Italian price, the cuisine is the best, and every road you take even the most unknown has something special to see. Also is the city with the longest porticato (idk how to translate this word), in the world which are a very peculiar Italian things I honestly think it's the smartest invention we ever made and if you go there you'll see why. The people there are the best people in Italy, they took only the good side of our nation, they're not that expansive as southerners but at same time they're not that mentally closed as northerners.
@@johnmininger7472 and also I don't know where you're from and I don't know your taste but remember Italy is one of the most mountainous country in Europe, don't underestimate the beauty of our mountains. If you go in center Italy's the "Appennini" (a mountain range), it's a very attractive place for hiking and trekking especially the part in the Abruzzi region. Idk your route and how much time you have but if you can take it into consideration. I'm saying all of this cause the mainstream place in Italy are indeed beautiful but sometimes there's place that are same worthy but unknown to foreigners, you can't even imagine how many hidden gems have Italy, we're not that good at endorsing our country. Stay always far from the crowd and try to follow the locals especially when is about finding a restaurant, even if that means finding yourself in a place where nobody talks English; don't worry they'll always try to make you understand them ;) don't be scared to ask information to people casually walking around on the street, it's something very common here and 9/10 they will help you, if you're lucky sometimes if other people sees that you're asking information they will come to help you even if you didn't ask them directly, it's rare but it happens xD don't look maps, don't looks review, don't look your phone, just go ask locals let yourself be dragged by us you won't regret it
@@johnmininger7472 hope one day you'll come into Piedmont, if, comment here I'll give you the best to visit :D
"Digital twin" is a buzz word people who are all ambition and no talent throw around. Also, forcing an "innovation hub" overnight is not how it works. In the US ,these types of districts began nearly 70 years ago post WW2. Research Triangle Park in North Carolina is a good example.
I wish we have massive project like this in the PH.
I am excited for the project, I just hope they finish it
i wish milan the best!
grazi
When you say “digital twin”, you mean “model”, right? What purpose does this obfuscation serve?
I have no idea why people think it makes things better to disconnect ideas from the existing body of work by changing all the terminology.
Because buzzwords let you gather influence, money, and power.
As an Italian myself, here we use way too many borrowed English words while we have beautiful proper Italian words. "Gemello digitale?" I'd say "Alter Ego" instead, if I were to use some classy "foreign" words.
@@Kaizzer Non puoi dirmi che le parole Italiane applicate alla tecnologia non suonino imbarazzanti nel 99% dei casi.
Well done presentation 👍👍👍
My Milan!!!!
As Italian I'm very glad to see video about my country, but always as Italian I feel like we are not really aiming to anything. Politicians do not promote any future, any tech in our country. Are only enterpreneurs that carry our country facing bureaucracy, competition, and the sleeping government.
Yes, that's the gangrene affecting Italy. Without it, it could rapidly become a much greater (and much healthier) nation.
nuovo posto per far girare i maranza in diretta su twitch
Nice video.
This is my first time hearing digital twin. Are they basically like nest thermostats but on a building scale?
The possible Information that is included in a Digital twin can be endless. Heating and electricity are one part, but there can also be very detailed Information about the building itself (based on BIM)
It's literally just a database
Interesting that they're just getting this project into reality, considering that it's a Expo 2015 legacy project. It'll be cool if you guys can cover Expo 2020's legacy project: District 2020
FORZA ITALIA !!
I just wish they will implement bike connections in Italy, the potential is there
A new tech capital with Andrea Galeazzi as president
I hope to see this type of changes also in the southern part of Italy, because Italy is not just the northern part so we can’t let our own people behind
Bisogno cambiare la testa della gente, prima
“Glamorous Silicon Roundabout”. ;)
Northen Italy is very advanced while south is a desert owned by Mafia. I had to move from Calabria to Milan 10 years ago, never regretted it, I love Milan and I grew roots here..
allora sei passato dalla mafia territoriale a quella finanziaria senza rendertene conto /clap....
I went even further. From Campania to Germany 16 years ago. 95% of my friends are from here now. I am sad from the South because it's very beautiful but those mafia scumbags don't deserve hardworking people with skills and qualifications.
I was born in Northern Italy, and I'm proud of you, honest people from the South that want to live in a prosperous and safe country! Viva l'Italia.
Italiani vengono nei commenti per (1) esibire la propria italianità (2) dire di saperne più degli altri e affermare che mai il progetto verrà ultimato (3) parlare in inglese maccheronico per sembrare poliglotti e fallire miseramente.
Congratulations Italy for this new mega project. I come from Indonesia and I wanted to ask all Italian what do you think of Indonesia's mega plan to move it's capital to Kalimantan island? We built a new capital from scratch!
Many environment activists have criticize this project because it will sacrifice the certain area of forest.
Indonesia is a developing country. We have so much work to do in various sector. Environmental activist who lived in a developed country like the US or Italy are very concern about climate change and green development but it seems to be like a forbidden sign for developing country to sacrifice it's forest. Sometimes I'm saying this to myself "Why a developing country like Indonesia always be criticized when they want to build something? I believe Indonesia want to be an advance country too with public facility like in European countries so why bother us?".
What do you think?
As an Italian, I’d say the project of building a new capital from nothing is interesting but a little bit insane imo. I’d rather improve the infrastructures and solve the problems (like overpopulation and sinking) affecting Jakarta instead of just letting them worsen over time and abandoning the city to its own destiny. In regards to the environmental issue, you’re kinda right. Yes, we in the West mostly care about the environment and the rate at which the Indonesian forests are disappearing is concerning to us. Yes, the West has caused many environmental problems due to its development. However, back in the days of industrialization here in the West, there was no such thing as ‘climate change’. No one in the early 1900s knew how bad fossil fuels were for the environment. Has Indonesia or any other country the right to develop? Of course, nobody here wants Indonesia to remain poor and underdeveloped. But, if you could pursue the ‘way of development’ with the awareness of not destroying the environment, it would be better for everyone. I’m sure you can do it. Good luck!🇮🇩🇮🇹
@@vincenzo225 Hello, first of all thank you for replying my comment.
I believe that a government policy and decision in every country will be criticize by it's own people, especially a democratic country. I have to clarify a bit information that Indonesian government has never intended to abandoning Jakarta and let it sink in future years. Later, Jakarta will be like New York, a center of economy. Our government are trying their best to make Jakarta a better place for it's residents.
About the environmental issue, so it's true that is concerning for European (at least for you as an Italian) that the number of deforestation in Indonesia keep increasing every year due to development? Why It's concerning for you? Is it your country also sacrificing a natural resources or forest for development?
I'm not sure if you agree with this or not but I think it is a burden and risk for us to carry as a developing country to be criticize by European environmental activists group for our efforts to be advance like their origin country. For example, Greta Thunberg is form Sweden. She encouraging world leaders to take an "extreme" actions to decreasing and slowing the climate change. In the other hand, there are a lot of underdeveloped country like in Africa or even Indonesia compare to her country that needs to build a public facilities. I know you already said that we have right to developing our country but we need to implementing a green development and increasing our awareness about environmental sustainability but I don't think we are ready to totally shifted from conventional development to green development.
And what I found interesting in your comment is that you acknowledging if European was also had massive development in the past and sacrificing the natural resources without having a concern about climate change.
Lastly, do you support our plan to build a new capital from scratch in the Island of Kalimantan who is known as "The Lung of the World"? Why or why not?
As an italian, I am personally against the construction of a new capital. First of all I think we need to be critical of the idea of development: were Sriwijaya, Majapahit, or Mataram underdeveloped? What is development? Is it widespread wealth for the entire population? Or is it building infrastructures and skyscrapers? The entire idea of development emerged after WW2 during the decolonization period when North Atlantic countries financed projects for the development of former colonies, that is, just another way for exercising power over "third world countries", exploiting the markets to the advantage of the stronger North Atlantic economies. In fact, the developed/underdeveloped divide is the heir of former "us/other" categorizations like civilized/barbarian or white/native, and it reproduces colonial schemes of power relations to this day. I believe we need to rethink the idea of development as culturally constructed. Indeed, development in the so called third world has more often caused a rise in social inequality, environmental disasters, and displacement of local communities, and this is likely to happen for the construction of Nusantara as well.
The main arguments for the building of the new capital are wealth redistribution and environmental issues. While it may seem a good idea to move the capital east to facilitate the flow of wealth from Java to the eastern regions, it is unlikely that this will be enough to achieve the goal of wealth distribution, as most institutions and hubs would still be in Java. A broader investment plan in the east would be required for this.
Secondly, while moving the capital is expected to alleviate some of the environmental burdens that affect Jakarta, it will just create more such issues elsewhere. Nusantara has been advertised as a green sustainable city, however, other than reducing the territory of one of the most important forests in the world, the land on which the new capital is going to be built is affected by the same soil problem that Jakarta has, linked to the extraction of underground water. Moreover, Indonesia still relies mostly on coal or unsustainable energies, which means that the construction of the city is going to require a lot of polluting energy consumption.
Lastly, local communities are going to be displaced from their lands, and they have not been involved in the project. Instead, only the elites, mostly plantation owners, and even foreign investors, are going to profit from the project.
Overall, the construction of Nusantara mostly seems to be a political maneuvre, the presentation of the grand new governmental buildings clearly show how this new capital mainly aims at presenting a new image of power for the Indonesian government, representing the new ambitions of a country that aims to be a regional power and to look appealing and modern to foreign eyes. But is this what Indonesia really needs? Why not using all of this money, for example, to improve healthcare, sanitation, or facilities especially in remote areas? Children in remote islands travel by foot for hours just to reach the nearest school, while many village communities to not have access to basic sanitation facikities, why not doing something to address these issues first? Let's not forget that the project to move the new capital comes in a moment when your president is trying to extend his mandate beyond the limits allowed (and Indonesian students recently had something to say about this), the same president that is trying to make Indonesia a Disneyland for foreign tourists, and who is trying to attract foreign capitals more than anything else. It is all clearly very political.
I am writing this comment as a person who deeply loves and respects Indonesia and its people, I hope you will find a better way for a new development.
I'm italian and from our point of view, the capital should not be the most advanced or the richest city, but the one that is able to gather the thought and spirit of all te country. In our case it is easy, Rome was the remnant of the most glorious ancient empire of the world. Europe and as a consequence America and most of Africa were influnced by this legacy, so no one had nothing to say about it.
I don't think that a newly built city will be able to do that. It's like getting rich and buying a mansion, but still remembering fondly and visiting your parents house from time to time
@@Marco-tb1uj Hello!
I think Italy also sacrificed a certain area of forest or green spaces for development in the past, but nobody criticised it because back then, the effects of climate change have not been felt.
My point in questioning about this issue is not about the right or wrong of Indonesia's plan to build the new capital city, but why European environmental activists/groups are criticizing and warned us about climate change while their own country did the exact development like what we are doing.
Do you think is fair for Indonesia as an emerging and developing country to receive that kind of criticism just because we are late to built our country?
0:49 la statale di milano in basso a sinistra😍
good to know, this is definitely not in the spotlight of Italian media ...they'll probably talk about it in Milan I am sure, not nationally tho I had no idea
It will be very difficult to attract talent in tech with Italian first mentality. IT engineers normally choose other more welcoming European countries or go to US. Also the salaries as they now stand are not too competitive on the market.
As an Italian, I quite agree but I have to say that Milan is much more open-minded than the rest of Italy.
Milan is very cosmopolitan so that should not be an issue. However, the real issue is that Italy has a very high corporate tax when compared to other European countries where IT already thrives
@@luigidipaolo7148 I completely agree.
“Wealth should be created by investing to create more wealth. Income is the fruit of wealth. If you do not do that, you will not have more income.”
Making it out at a young age is quite difficult. I started a side hustle at 17, saved up and made some good investments. l'm 28,live on my own and having a good life for myself. Big ups to you and everyone out there trying
@@danromero533 Sounds like plan, how do you put money to work?
@@steceymorgan814 Yes it sure is. I put in money in investments and get profits. That 's how I make more money without working. This does not sound new to you right ?
@@danromero533 Thanks for replying me, I've heard so many people talk about investment but none had said how to do it right.
Am hoping on you can explain more on how you make extra income from investments
Well that's impressive
muy bien Italia!
"Green" That statement sounds really questionable. Thermostats does not a building green make.
Imagine what Italy would be if burocracy was not a thing. Italy has everything to lead on many things but goverment and laws make everything waaaay harder, not to mention high taxes.
Spot on, very accurate.
Italy has the potential to be a huge player in the world of technology and innovation. It already is a world leader in fashion, arts, cuisine etc. Italy has all the ingredients for success i just wish the government can fuel this growth and incentivize those companies who are trying to make it happen.
Mafia (economic interests better saying) + burocracy (renouncing mentality better saying) is what kills us. Also remember, we vote for that.
Ogni tanto.
Saluti from the most beautiful country in the world.
I live near that place (30 miles ) so I hope it will bring more oportunities for us :)
invece avrete più disoccupazionr visto che già la povertà nel norditalia è quadruplicata..... perche lo chiede leuropa....
@@Ermagron Giri a Milano sembra di stare a Beirut 😅
Fun fact: Milan is the largest european city not directly on a body of water, so no river, lake or ocean.
Well... Technically the rivers Olona and Lambro flow within the city limits... Still they aren't navigable so you're kinda right too, we had to build our own canals (Navigli) to have access to easier trade.
Yes, in fact Milano comes from latin word "Mediolanum," that name was given by the Romans that found the city, and it means "in the middle of the land".
Everybody's got a tech city now days
unlike p*kistan
great
There’s a lot going on in Madrid right now (& in the coming years), you should check it out!
I just wish the architects designed these places to fit in with the rich cultural and historic buildings around them. It sticks out like an ugly sore thumb, even if it's supposed to be peaceful and increase leisure.
So far its not looking good
But the architectural style would be out of place in such a technological district. Imagine a 20-storey high building with the style of a building in the center of Milan ...
Milan has a long and illustrious history of doing exactly that: having individual buildings or entire blocks and districts standing out like so many sore thumbs in many, many places - starting from the Duomo square (with the Arengario and La Rinascente) and proceeding from there in a disorderly fashion.
@@matteorossato9182 technolgical style of buildings are always considered the worst by architects
@@anzarm.a8547 What do you mean by technological style? Speaking of the buildings we can say that they have a green style. Maybe I was wrong to use the term technology but in general I see the district as a green district, made up of parks, common areas, very few roads with cars, all interconnected with each other, etc.
I literally live less than 2km apart. With my class we won a contest for a project of the hospital in MIND. Milan is watching ahead because of the 2026 Milan-Cortina Winter Olympics cause since 2017 when the joy of EXPO ended the city slowed his grow by a lot.
Staremo a vedere .
With how the world deeply integrated and electronically controlled, New infrastructure is the way to independent
It’s always interesting to see regions try to get “innovation hubs” going by making flashy buildings and green spaces when the reality is they should start by having favorable tax structures and incentives for business and people to operate there. No point in innovating and trying to sell that product out of Italy if 60% or whatever of your profits go to taxes compared to another “innovation hub” city in a more tax friendly country where you can use that money to reinvest in your business.
Taxes should be lowered, but investing in new technologies is important. High-income economies with high labour costs and unfavourable tax structures (France, Sweden or Germany) have their own innovation hubs so if it works for them I can't see why it can't work for Italy
The future of tech is decentralized including a decentralized workforce. Most tech people rather not have to commute to an office and frankly the better geek you are, the more you crave your own space to get deep into what you are doing. Cool that Italy is trying to get more into the tech game though.
You're right. Most of these people still have an old mentality with a center of power managing, collecting the data and imposing the rules. Chinese style research hubs.
Old mentality will lead nowhere.
thanks, I'm Italian and didn't know
I wonder how many cafes per capita are needed to make this an efficient city.
Should all cities be like this?
According to the findings of the new IPCC report on climate change, if it eventuates as they say it will, this is practically the ideal model for how future, sustainable cities are meant to be built. If only we had this foresight years ago!
no, building an 8 lane road is not green or sustainable in the middle of a city
@@r3d0c Where did you see an eight lane road? The main "street" will be a long park that runs through the entire neighborhood and in addition to being, of course, a pedestrian area there will be a two-lane road for self-driving vehicles in the future. And as mentioned in the video, you won't even need cars, because everything will be just a few minutes away.
If they can be designed to reflect a city’s historic and cultural heritage, then yes.
Absolutely yes. Because wanting to keep the architectural history and so on of a city is fine, but I think this is fine for existing historical buildings. For everything new, you need modern architecture that allows you to meet today's standards in order to have state-of-the-art buildings to have more natural light, better ventilation, thermal insulation, etc., which the architectural style such as that of the center of Milan cannot guarantee.
why is no one innovating? I specifically requested it! lol, it's a good idea but when you try to will innovation into existence it usually falls flat. for it to work you have to havee the right culture, education, and a mountain range of burning cash. I don't think having a bitchin campus is enough
Hi, Does Milan Polytech or this new park have a algae farm(s) at site and if not where is the largest algae farms located in Italy?
Only on North Italy?
What about South Italy?
Italy is a wonderful country, people is helpful, talkative and friendly, but the USA propaganda describe Italians very badly.
Yes, and the reasons are far far from unbiased and impartial. Sift their propaganda and read between the lines, since you've got direct experience with Italians and can certainly tell the difference between reality and partial propaganda, sir.
Most Americans are ignorant when it comes to external affairs. How do i know? I'm American and I've spoken with many Americans lol
@@omicroneridani7456 Italians are not the bloodthirsty assassins of the American movies, this i want to mean. They're an ordinary people, even more friendly then other ones. They smile and help if they can.
In Austria (Tyrol), searching for informations, people turn around their heads to not reply.
@@unioneitaliana7107 Your point is entirely taken, sir, and I even concur, as far as I could tell.
It's not completely American's fault... they know Italian people from last century immigration, that unfortunately included MANY mafia people...
Sounds largely like bs...
App services, IoT...just throwing out words.
interesting video
Yo i watch this amazing channel all the time, could you do a video to do with the Colombo new port? Maybe future amazing airports coming in the next few years?
Thanks,
It will not work without fixing air pollution issue in North of Italy:
- tunnels for cars in a big cities,
- smart car interchanges,
- correct bicycle routes,
- stop using asphalt on the sidewalks.
All this has already been done many years ago in Benilux and North of Europe, why not just copy?