How to Sew a Medieval Supportive Kirtle

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  • @evelynpageau2292
    @evelynpageau2292 Рік тому +8

    Not sure I've liked something as fast before: "got your thimble?" "Got my thimble!" this is gold.
    Also exactly what I was looking for for both the visual inspiration to get sewing again but also that it will still look good even though I'm not a stick! Thank you!!

  • @bunhelsingslegacy3549
    @bunhelsingslegacy3549 Рік тому +6

    I used Morgan Donner's kirtle drafting video and it was the first hint that my measurements lie, but I made a mockup, figured out some stuff and made myself a cute sleeveless knee length linen kirtle, and I think if I make some little crescent bust improvers it'll actually fill out nicely (lying measurements!), but it is surprisingly comfortable and supportive! I only had a metre of linen (a very similar shade of purple as yours!) to work with, so I did rectangular panels with triangular gores and it worked really well.

  • @joclark3702
    @joclark3702 2 роки тому +14

    Use basting stitches to put the sleeves in. You can just pull them out when you want to remove the sleeved.

  • @MinervaLunaCreations
    @MinervaLunaCreations Місяць тому +2

    I loved your video, thanks for filming it! I'm not a historical sewist by any means, but I sew a lot of my own (very unfashionable ) clothes and I've been watching enough many historical clothing tutorials to know that in the olden days the cloth was woven narrower than our modern day fabrics, and it's absolutely historically accurate to add pieces of cloth where it's wanted and not even as gores but just matching the direction of the weft and warp and sewing the missing piece on. Cloth was expensive and took ages to weave so they used every bit of it. Thank you for making your videos, I'm now following you!

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  29 днів тому

      So glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching AND for the sub! Welcome to the channel. 😊

  • @thinkuthink
    @thinkuthink Рік тому +2

    I loled at “got my thimble” 😅

  • @marynraven
    @marynraven 2 роки тому +6

    You can get gel-ink pens that are erasable. They write soooo smoothly and actually erase, not like those "erasable" pens you may have used in jr high. I like the Frixion ones. It would make things easier to see and you don't sacrifice erasability!

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! Is there a particular brand of frixion pens you recommend?

    • @scouttyra
      @scouttyra 2 місяці тому

      They dissapear with heat, so you just need to run an iron over the lines when you want them to dissapear.
      Personally I use Pilot frixxion

  • @elewysoffinchingefeld3066
    @elewysoffinchingefeld3066 2 роки тому +5

    An incredibly helpful and enjoyable video! New subscriber and I'm going to be watching this video again (a few times) to get some ideas on how to finally get a supportive kirtle to work for me. Downward drift is a huge problem...

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +3

      Hello, and welcome! Thank you so much! And I agree 😒 definitely an issue. Darn that gravity, lol! I definitely think getting it nice and tight in the underbust is big, and accounting for the relaxing of the fibers. Let me know how it turns out! 🤞

  • @lynn858
    @lynn858 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm liking the bodice back and side seams. That's a solid strategy I'll be making use of!

  • @therealhellkitty5388
    @therealhellkitty5388 Рік тому +2

    I’m in S. ATX and this is the video I have needed to get me started to make a kirtle from some great B & T linen and a camel overdress.. I, too, am a well padded person for whom drift is an issue. A well fitted kirtle will be a dogsend. May I also suggest using eyelets and ribbons to tie in the sleeves? I don’t know if that’s too much a Renaissance fix but it could work for you. Also, silk buttonhole twist for those seams that need extra strength is a good investment. Cheers!

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  Рік тому +2

      Whoohoo! Fellow Austinite! Glad this was helpful for you! Eyelets and ribbons is a good idea 👍

  • @ginaluster9207
    @ginaluster9207 7 місяців тому +1

    That intro is fantastic. It was very relatable. "Why do I have such and such...? I don't know.....but I have it, and it's awesome!" lol You're a knowledgeable dork and that's my jam. Happy 2024!

  • @ladyjusticesusan
    @ladyjusticesusan 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for this video. Super useful in making my own supportive kirtle.

  • @maryannhicks7829
    @maryannhicks7829 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome idea with changeable . I also like it without sleeves. (Apron)

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому

      Thanks so much! I love clothes that are multi-taskers. I think it's probably going to get the most use without the sleeves, so I'm glad it doesn't look horrible 🤣

  • @DLBard-bv2nd
    @DLBard-bv2nd Рік тому +2

    Elderberry fruit can be used to dye fabric purple. You need to add a few ingredients to make the fabric color fast.

  • @linw7320
    @linw7320 2 роки тому +4

    I LOVE IT 💘 Your hand sewing is gorgeous.

  • @artsymaddieDIY
    @artsymaddieDIY Рік тому +1

    This is such a great video, you totally inspired me to make one 🌟🤗 So grateful to find you and your lovely projects 💜

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! So glad to have you here! ☺️ And that's awesome, good luck with your sewing!!

  • @fredericapanon207
    @fredericapanon207 Рік тому +1

    At the end with the crossbow, you looked like a bad ass, purple Princess Lea. :-)

  • @dissodatore
    @dissodatore 2 роки тому +2

    would love to see, yet fear to see, a work with Morgan Donner!!

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +3

      HAH! I would thoroughly enjoy breaking the internet alongside Morgan 🤣 maybe one day I'll get the opportunity! 🤞

  • @theduke5355
    @theduke5355 2 роки тому +1

    Such a great opening to this video 😂

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks! 🤣 my friends are enablers and let me buy things I shouldn't. Glad you enjoyed 😎

  • @juliecain6397
    @juliecain6397 Рік тому +2

    THE HEMS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE LONG...TO KEEP TOES WARM IN COLD WEATHER...AS YOU SIT SEWING BY THE FIRE...ON THE FREEZING STONE FLOOR...YOU KEEP WARM BY TUCKING SOME OF THE SKIRT UNDER AND AROUND YOUR TOES.

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  Рік тому +2

      Well a rooty-too-too for Medieval Europe 🤣 Honey, this is Central Texas, where the temperature is above 85 degrees 8 months out of the year, my AC runs constantly between Feb-Nov, and we're currently seeing 10 days straight of 100+ temperatures and a 110-120 degree heat index. The last thing on my mind now or ever is staying warm while sitting on a freezing stone floor in front of a fire. I'll put my hem where I want, thanks, so I don't trip and break my face, or drag it in dog shit. Now if you'll excuse me, Miss Capslock, I'm going to go shove my head in the freezer and try to cool off 😂🥵

  • @lindabrotherton1225
    @lindabrotherton1225 8 місяців тому

    great job and very funny😂

  • @trash2305
    @trash2305 2 роки тому +4

    can't believe I came to watch a cool video about historical clothing, only to get murdered 16 seconds in

    • @trash2305
      @trash2305 2 роки тому

      really great vid, worth the crossbow bolt to the face

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +1

      LOL! That's the risk you take, here at FFC. Normal one second and then, BOOM! Random violence. 🤣 Also, thank you so much!

  • @tymanung6382
    @tymanung6382 Рік тому +1

    Apparently a light weight cross bow, while later there were heavy weight cross
    bows, with 2 handed cranks and metal ?
    bows that fired metal bolts. 1 feudal
    ruler made an experiment that found that
    1 bow & arrow fired 8 arrows/1 bolt. but
    bolts were stronger.
    Ancient Chinese had multi arrow light cross bow, like older machine guns +
    stock/magazine of bullets on top of
    barrel.
    Ancient and Medieval Euros had giant
    crossbows in frames, called ballistas.
    Dangerous!!

  • @jaimimaratas5537
    @jaimimaratas5537 2 роки тому +2

    I have almost the exact same high tech pattern weights! 😁

  • @pamelarichards7555
    @pamelarichards7555 10 місяців тому +2

    The purple dye you're looking for is most likely a historic dye (murex, or Royal Purple) not currently available. Its use limited by the large quantity of marine life necessary to make a small amount of dye, rendering it accessible only in small quantities at a very high price. There were sumptuary laws which prevented its use for everyday garments, restricting its use to royalty. If a common person wore this color, they would be instantly be presumed to be impersonating royalty and face the penalty for treason. Maleficent was a Queen, so this would likely have been the source of the color she wore.

  • @stephaniebriggswilton1954
    @stephaniebriggswilton1954 8 місяців тому

    You are also not skinny AND you live in Texas too!!!! This tutorial is heaven for me! I have been wanting to make a chemise but between my size 22 body and even bigger boobs, I have no clue where to start.

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, I had reservations watching smaller-chested folks making self supporting gowns, but I can confirm two years later that these can be comfortable and supportive even for large busts!

    • @stephaniebriggswilton1954
      @stephaniebriggswilton1954 8 місяців тому

      @@FantasticalFolliesCostuming I appreciate you very much and am a very excited new stalker, I mean follower!

  • @AllTheHappySquirrels
    @AllTheHappySquirrels 9 місяців тому

    And now I'm wondering if I should try my hands at a supportive kirtle to fight back against the downward drift of my extra-padded squishable parts.

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  9 місяців тому +1

      Ahahahha 😅 It's worth a shot! I mean, it's no corset, but it's pretty darn comfy for everyday wear

  • @JosieAreSee
    @JosieAreSee 2 роки тому +2

    You are so fun.

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! I never know how much goofy is too much goofy, so I'm glad it's not overkill 😂

    • @JosieAreSee
      @JosieAreSee 2 роки тому +1

      @@FantasticalFolliesCostuming it’s just enough to show your personality! I enjoy it!

  • @SuperSrebrni
    @SuperSrebrni 2 роки тому

    Auuuuu!

  • @bohemiansusan2897
    @bohemiansusan2897 10 місяців тому +1

    I want to know about the eyelet ruler. Tried searching for it on Amazon.
    I love the big rush when a project is completed and fun to wear. My version would have been raw silk and used for occasions which require more formality and not care what anyone says.

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  10 місяців тому +1

      It's from Amped Atelier. UA-cam doesn't like when I link in comments, but if you google the name, you can find it pretty easy!
      I agree! Finishing is my favorite part, hah! Raw silk is very nice!

    • @bohemiansusan2897
      @bohemiansusan2897 10 місяців тому

      @@FantasticalFolliesCostuming thank you.

  • @kristenpeters4434
    @kristenpeters4434 2 роки тому +1

    I adore this tutorial- it’s so helpful! We have similar body types, so I extra appreciate a tutorial on a similar shape ☺️ I am stuck after doing the taped sloper. I’m trying to figure out how to cut the sloper so the bust fullness rotates out to the center front for a curved seam. Did you find a good resource for that stage? I’ve done taped slopers to pattern corsets and bodices with darts, but I’m blanking on how to get a flat pattern with shaping and no darts.

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +1

      I'm so glad you found it helpful! And also nice to meet people with similar body types, for that very reason 😁
      I've been noodling over your question a bit, and realized that (AS ALWAYS) I was overthinking it. Hah! So you've got to do this in two steps. Cut straight down the center of your taped sloper to get your basic medieval block. This is the block that you can use for any medieval garment you want to make.
      Buuuuuut...to get the curves for the kirtle, you'll need to then transfer the block onto scrap fabric, baste it all together and pin it on your body while lying down to get it as tight as you need. The taping method won't work for this, because it doesn't behave the same as fabric. You really need to get in there and pinch out all the ease if it's going to support you, and that's hard with sticky stuff! There's an excellent tutorial for this, on La Cotte Simple's website. Here: cottesimple.com/tutorials/curved-front-seam/ I managed to do this on my own, but definitely easier with help.
      Hopefully that helps! Let me know if you have further questions :)

    • @kristenpeters4434
      @kristenpeters4434 2 роки тому +1

      @@FantasticalFolliesCostuming alas, you are right. I tried manipulating the taped form and it turned out way off. I have a feeling the pinch/pin method will be a headache, but I’ll give it a go! Thanks for responding ☺️

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +1

      @@kristenpeters4434 Of course, that's what I'm here for, hah! Hopefully the pinch and pin wasn't so bad. I didn't mind it...but after trying to do the same method on an 18th century mockup recently, anything seems a breeze 🙄

  • @nian60
    @nian60 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like UA-cam blocked my previous comment. :( For purple dyes, look at logwood, cochineal, madder and woad overdyed with each other. I wrote a longer reply with more tips but I can't re-write it.

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you! That's so helpful! I'm not sure why UA-cam did that, but I'll look into it. The good news is that while it got eaten on the site, it exists in all it's glory in my email. Can't wait to start digging through all your suggestions 😎

    • @nian60
      @nian60 2 роки тому +1

      @@FantasticalFolliesCostuming You're welcome. :) UA-cam probably blocked it because I tried to sneak in some website suggestions for natural dyes. But at least now you have some key words you can search for. :) (Madder is red and woad is blue. I haven't searched for how/if they were mixed. But woad (blue) and weld (yellow) overdyed made green fabric. First they did one of the dye baths, then the other, and it made green).

  • @elleghe4560
    @elleghe4560 3 дні тому

    Only came across your video now, so the info may be moot by now. Linen was hard to dye colourfast in old days. Wool and silk take up colour much more easily. A cheaper version is to overdye red with blue. Cheaper and not cheap because of double dyeing process

  • @heathercollins2352
    @heathercollins2352 2 роки тому +2

    Purple was originally extremely expensive- extracted from a purple sea snail and used almost elusively by royalty. Would not have been possible See "Tyrian purple" in wikipedia for a quick overview. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому

      Thanks for the tip!

    • @coldhands4799
      @coldhands4799 2 роки тому +2

      Yes this is true, however people could also layer red and blue dye jobs to create purple, which were much more readily available

    • @FantasticalFolliesCostuming
      @FantasticalFolliesCostuming  2 роки тому +1

      @@coldhands4799 Yes! What a great point! 🤯 Thanks for bringing that up!