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Hello, might have been said before but : You only need one bomb to stun Oryx and prevent him from doing his wipe mechanic. At the end during final stand you could use only one bomb, dps as much as possible while one person gets ready to enter the second bomb as soon as he starts casting his second wipe-attack. You almost double the time you have. (Also lunafaction boots on a warlock would increase your rat king range for final stand)
Yeah, all this, Also x3 surge mods would help up the damage by just a bit, but any damage at the final stand would help with how close you guys were getting. Not sure what the others in the fireteam used but Toad only had x2 from what I could see.
So I've seen your team do this a lot on Oryx final stand. You only need 1 bomb to stun him at final stand, not both. This means that you can have one person do a bomb, get the full time for DPS, then have that same person or someone else get the second bomb, doubling the time you have for final stand.
As a fellow rat man it is possible to kill oryx with only rat kings. You need lunafaction wellocks with triple kinetic surges and loaders, lastly you can double stun oryx if you only detonate one bomb at a time he will then call upon the darkness again and you get the other bomb detonated. You can also use rally barricades as a for extra range
I find it really funny how when fighting the Sisters and Oryx while using RATS as callouts, the fireteam had people who spell RATS with the first letter of their name. Basically, it would have Ruby on far left, Axolchi on far right, Toad on close left and finally Stecky on close right to go along with not only the callouts that were used and the actual challenge itself.
I think that a lunafaction well + everyone rocking triple surge + unravel debuff could do the trick That reload speed and extra scrap of damage might have given yall the edge, but idk
Lunafactions also increase the effective range by like 100% or something, not sure if that would have been enough to compensate for Oryx being far away
Yeah, toad wasn't using kinetic surge x3, he was only using x2... I know the 3rd is a tiny addition but an extra like 7% makes a difference as well as stacking ALL the kinetic reload as well would have helped greatly. Finally I too think a Luna well would have helped too... If I remember right healing rifts give reload speed while empowered give range but a Well technically counts as both so should help compensate for the range falloff
I'm so used to you faking us out with it, that when the SMB music kicked in at 6:00 I fully expected you to wipe immediately after. Did NOT expect you to pull that one off. One of the Steckyj8 moments of all time
im the one in my team who always says "Rat king time" so seeing this video was definitely the ammo i needed to justify my decisions, this deserves a sub!!
Another home run from Toad. I have heard of teams doing raids with a full pack of rat broadcast by Toad and Co no less is a blessed experience. Mighty fine transitions by the way, really loved the graffiti. It’s a shame there was no hunter on this run because a single tether may have been enough for you guys to do rat king dos for final stand considering how close you all were.
actually recently did this raid as rat king only with some friends, we managed to pull it off and looking at this, i can tell what might've helped with your run: tether- when we ran it, we were running 2 hunters (me included) as tether for the weaken damage, that helped quite a bit- and then on final stand, instead of getting both of the bombs at once, we took one at a time, that way it gave us most time possible before oryx doing the wipe, so yes! you can beat kings fall, using ONLY rat king to damage-
I'm not sure if this will make a difference, but one thing I thought I'd bring up is that Rally Barricade increases your Range on your weapon while your standing behind it. So that + a Lunifaction rift/well for even MORE range and reload speed I think would allow you to final stand Oryx. (maybe a few x3 surges for that extra 4% as well, just to 'squeak' out every last bit of damage). That's the only main thing I didn't see being used that I feel could have helped, but otherwise fantastic run and very fun to watch! Great work!
One tip about final stand, you dont have to detonate both bombs at the same time. You can do them one by one to effectively double the length of final stand. it may be possible with just rat king if you do this
You can detonate the final stand bombs 1 at a time for extra damage, that’s probably all you need. Especially if you add the triple surges and triple kinetic loader
When in final stand, have one person detonate one bomb, then have the second person detonate the second bomb a few (~2-3) seconds after. The goal is to stun, not to prolong the final damage phase. Detonate the bombs one at a time, rather than detonating both simultaneously.
So, me and my crew did all raids Rat King only, and Oryx was definately quite the challenge. However, i think i saw you use both bombs on final phase at once, you can actually spread them out. How we beat him rat king only is exactly what yall did, but final phase we did one bomb, get as much damage as possible, then get 2nd bomb when he calls upon the darkness the second time, extending the final phase considerably.
I'm not sure if you did because the video would cut during final stand, but you might be able to squeeze out a tiny bit more time if you detonate each final stand bomb one at a time
besides the bomb thing, you can use boots of the assembler for a 35% buff, which is more than well/bubble luna and rally barricade give you more range kinetic loader has a marginally faster reload scaler than luna felwinters helm can get you a 30% debuff, which is more than grenade's 15% maybe banner shield's 40% buff could be worth trying for giggles and 3x surge for 22%
I don’t know if it’s mentioned but maybe some extra people running mechaneers trick sleeves for the damage buff and also there is a glitch atm that doubles that dmg buff if you use 2 side arms, that might be enuf to squeeze yall to the end. Oryx dps phase having the boss do no dmg to u and small ads around to refresh the buff is perfect for this
Imagine if Rat King had a perk or something where it could build, individually, stacks of rat pack by getting kills. It's a fine exotic alone, great in a group but the complete lack of a perk when running solo does kinda hurt it a small bit, maybe make it so that getting kills also gives you the presence of even more rat kings, like if you're on a fireteam, you can get a bunch of kills and go up to like 3x rat pack potency alone for your allies
Ya know at 11:40 ya'll mention being on the Raid team as a joke. But I would actually love to see a video of you all designing your own raid, each member responsible for a particular part of the Raid! Like one for each encounter, one for loot, and one for l o r e ? I think that'd be cool to see from you all! (Edit: I realize one for jumping puzzles would make more sense then lore I think-)
Guarantee you can do Oryx with the tricksleeves damage glitch. You'd technically need to make use of another weapon to get yourself low enough to trigger it, but once you did that, getting something like 700% increased damage on rat king with glitched tricksleeves has 100% gotta be able to take him down in final stand
for each damage phase at oryx when you were considering other options, someone couldve switched to lumina and gotten a few kills and given everyone Blessing of the Sky for an extra 10% damage buff (because you already have well). that MIGHTVE been able to push out that last little bit of damage for final stand
Add a hunter? Tether, grenades and smoke bombs weaken enemies. If you don't want to do damage with the super I'm sure there is ways around that by choosing a "tactical tether" spot? These things combined could potentially boost everyone's damage just enough? Just a theory. I'ma see if I can get a group together and try at least. 😎 Looks fun!
Now… In theory… If you have a Hunter(s) running Speedloader Slacks and Warlocks running Lunafactions or Necrotic Grips. With how close you were on DPS, both of those things could push it over. There might also be some kind of play with Aeons…
Yes it absolutely is possible. Ive done 6x ratking with my clan. As stated by others the main thing your group was missing out on was lunafaction boots for the wells. 3x surge mods instead of 2x is free damage, no reason not to.. also the seperate bombs for final stand as mentioned by others. You do 1 first and a luna well/rift. Then when the 2nd bomb is triggered everyone push up to the edge inside the aura and drop a second luna well/rift.
I have an idea: thy named crota’s end. swords and glaves only with knight drip required but the ultimate catch is you guys have to talk like a Shakespeare play and call-outs have to be the names to different plays
You could use Lunafaction Boots on warlock to extend your range in the wells, so you don't lose as much damage in the final stand due to him flying away from you. That could be just enough of a difference. Were you hitting for 4.5k in the intended range and 3k in the final stand, or was that just due to having weaken proc sometimes? You could also just use a tether, as tethers benefit the pack.
Mechaneers tricksleeves with the new rocket sidearm can get you the damage buff consistanaly on oryx, we had two hunters do the damage rotatation, they stand outside the well activate the perk start damaging, enter the well and they have 4 seconds of that 2x damage buff, that was enough for my team to beat him
Stacking bombs: you have to stun Oryx before she claps. After she slams, her chest will open. Shoot it to stun her. Idk what would one-shot in D2, but D1 was a single golden gun with celestial.
What if someone used Salvation’s Grip to create a crystal to move closer to Oryx? Maybe the damage could improve just a bit. Also make sure you have kinetic surges.
Video idea!: For the queen Queensbreaker run Dw this will end good trust. Queens only with melees supers surges grenades and heavy ammo drop boosts! (Aeon runners) :)
Perhaps some hunters running mechaneer’s tricksleeves would let you beat oryx. In addition to all the armor mods like triple kinetic surge, reload speed, and target acquisition.
Have you tried it with Mechaneer's Tricksleeves or whatever those were called? Hunter exotic, boosts sidearm damage, albeit conditionally. Could make it actually possible
I mean if he doesnt reply, as a random internet stranger id recommend it. Its one of the only times a seasonal story has made me genuinely emotional if u care abt that kind of thing. If you like the ahamkara, this season is the only one you should buy.
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Dawg I never thought I would see that combo ever, beating kings fall and rat king 😭😭😭
16:44 shield throw you have to do it again on reset
I was in a room once, it was a throne room, a throne room with rat kings.
And rats make me crazy...
@@iammooclecrazy?
@@FrenkieEdits168I was crazy once
Very creative 👍
@@ShalotWolfthey locked me in a throne room…
I loved when Donovan got his rat and kinged all over oryx’s fall
Hello, might have been said before but : You only need one bomb to stun Oryx and prevent him from doing his wipe mechanic.
At the end during final stand you could use only one bomb, dps as much as possible while one person gets ready to enter the second bomb as soon as he starts casting his second wipe-attack.
You almost double the time you have. (Also lunafaction boots on a warlock would increase your rat king range for final stand)
Yeah, all this, Also x3 surge mods would help up the damage by just a bit, but any damage at the final stand would help with how close you guys were getting. Not sure what the others in the fireteam used but Toad only had x2 from what I could see.
This is exactly, what I came here to say, X3 surges, lunafaction, I reckon oryx is cooked
Was gonna mention that, they were double bombing final for some reason
@@_F_rog False information was spread about the encounter lmao
First Grasp of Chesse and now King’s Rat
we now need Vow of The Rat and Rat of Nightmares,
Rat King’s Fall
@@ErrorcodedRat rat of nightmares sounds like a joke boss that ends up being the hardest boss in the game lmao
@@grimm2210 wouldn't surprise me, that mf moves way too damn much
RAT KING VALIDATION LETS FUCKING GO
So I've seen your team do this a lot on Oryx final stand. You only need 1 bomb to stun him at final stand, not both. This means that you can have one person do a bomb, get the full time for DPS, then have that same person or someone else get the second bomb, doubling the time you have for final stand.
Thank you I was gonna comment this
Not sure on this but I think you can also save 2 bombs on the close side of the room and use them during last stand as well.
@@TetsuYkt I believe during day 1 this worked but they patched it and now they despawn once he hits final stand
@@wintereclipse3263 you get 2 bombs going into final stand so they just stun him twice
@@bouncedtv I was replying to the other person that saving bombs from previous phases now despawn going into final stand.
As a fellow rat man it is possible to kill oryx with only rat kings. You need lunafaction wellocks with triple kinetic surges and loaders, lastly you can double stun oryx if you only detonate one bomb at a time he will then call upon the darkness again and you get the other bomb detonated. You can also use rally barricades as a for extra range
The amount of people that sleep on rally barricades is so sad... I genuinely think people just forgot the list of buffs that little wall gives you.
Dude yes I was crying at what I assumed was no lunafactions
The graffiti font in this goes so hard
I find it really funny how when fighting the Sisters and Oryx while using RATS as callouts, the fireteam had people who spell RATS with the first letter of their name. Basically, it would have Ruby on far left, Axolchi on far right, Toad on close left and finally Stecky on close right to go along with not only the callouts that were used and the actual challenge itself.
Finally. The return of the king.
I think that a lunafaction well + everyone rocking triple surge + unravel debuff could do the trick
That reload speed and extra scrap of damage might have given yall the edge, but idk
Lunafactions also increase the effective range by like 100% or something, not sure if that would have been enough to compensate for Oryx being far away
Yeah, toad wasn't using kinetic surge x3, he was only using x2... I know the 3rd is a tiny addition but an extra like 7% makes a difference as well as stacking ALL the kinetic reload as well would have helped greatly. Finally I too think a Luna well would have helped too... If I remember right healing rifts give reload speed while empowered give range but a Well technically counts as both so should help compensate for the range falloff
I just want to say, I really love the graffiti encounter cards!
His videos are great because it’s just a bunch of friends playing a game they enjoy
Nothing like a freshly made toadsmoothie vid to enjoy after a long day of exams.
I'm so used to you faking us out with it, that when the SMB music kicked in at 6:00 I fully expected you to wipe immediately after. Did NOT expect you to pull that one off. One of the Steckyj8 moments of all time
Whats the name of the song?
I love it when you guys do runs of content using specific weapons! Makes me want to experiment with more stuff!
Loving the crypt of the necrodancer music in the background.
This guy is best Destiny 2 youtuber ever attempting challenges others deem impossible
I am so happy somebody else has done this too
I saw this challenge on the lfg I use but wasn't able to do it, it's good to see this challenge fulfil its purpose as a really dumb idea.
im the one in my team who always says "Rat king time" so seeing this video was definitely the ammo i needed to justify my decisions, this deserves a sub!!
Glad this was uploaded had an awful night last night isn’t and you never fail to make me laugh Toad.
Keep your head up king! 👑
That warpriest kill was genuinely impressive. good work
Another home run from Toad.
I have heard of teams doing raids with a full pack of rat broadcast by Toad and Co no less is a blessed experience.
Mighty fine transitions by the way, really loved the graffiti.
It’s a shame there was no hunter on this run because a single tether may have been enough for you guys to do rat king dos for final stand considering how close you all were.
actually recently did this raid as rat king only with some friends, we managed to pull it off and looking at this, i can tell what might've helped with your run: tether- when we ran it, we were running 2 hunters (me included) as tether for the weaken damage, that helped quite a bit- and then on final stand, instead of getting both of the bombs at once, we took one at a time, that way it gave us most time possible before oryx doing the wipe, so yes! you can beat kings fall, using ONLY rat king to damage-
Next you should do a raid as kaijus from the monster verse, like chaos reach as Godzilla, synthoceps titan as kong, stuff like that.
I'm not sure if this will make a difference, but one thing I thought I'd bring up is that Rally Barricade increases your Range on your weapon while your standing behind it. So that + a Lunifaction rift/well for even MORE range and reload speed I think would allow you to final stand Oryx. (maybe a few x3 surges for that extra 4% as well, just to 'squeak' out every last bit of damage).
That's the only main thing I didn't see being used that I feel could have helped, but otherwise fantastic run and very fun to watch! Great work!
Haven’t seen a Rat King vs a raid in a while.
One tip about final stand, you dont have to detonate both bombs at the same time. You can do them one by one to effectively double the length of final stand. it may be possible with just rat king if you do this
Nezarec is liking this idea, knowing that maybe he won’t be the only raid boss to die to only rat king
Honestly, I have always wondered how this would go if someone did a full mission with Rat king with a full party, looks fun as hell lol!!!!
I've been taking a break from Destiny and these are the only Destiny videos I've been watching lol
I feel like comboing rat king with gyrfalcons alongside The Recluse with a destabilizing rounds and repulsor brace role would be a hella funni thing
Toland, the Shattered and Xivu Arath: Finally, after all these years...the Throne has been taken. The Logic Prevails
If you guys want to do this again you could use Mechaneer’s Tricksleeves for increased reload and maybe a damage buff
The Cyrus theme during Oryx is such a goated choice, my favorite Pokemon villain
You can detonate the final stand bombs 1 at a time for extra damage, that’s probably all you need. Especially if you add the triple surges and triple kinetic loader
When in final stand, have one person detonate one bomb, then have the second person detonate the second bomb a few (~2-3) seconds after. The goal is to stun, not to prolong the final damage phase. Detonate the bombs one at a time, rather than detonating both simultaneously.
Came for the D2 challenge. Stayed for the Carl Wheezer impressions.
So, me and my crew did all raids Rat King only, and Oryx was definately quite the challenge. However, i think i saw you use both bombs on final phase at once, you can actually spread them out. How we beat him rat king only is exactly what yall did, but final phase we did one bomb, get as much damage as possible, then get 2nd bomb when he calls upon the darkness the second time, extending the final phase considerably.
I remember doing Vow of the Disciple with all rat kings it was very fun
20 views in 1 minute? Bros NEVER falling off.
You get top comment
Nope.
Hell yeah bröther
@@the_king_of_kings_3413 💀
I'm not sure if you did because the video would cut during final stand, but you might be able to squeeze out a tiny bit more time if you detonate each final stand bomb one at a time
besides the bomb thing, you can use boots of the assembler for a 35% buff, which is more than well/bubble
luna and rally barricade give you more range
kinetic loader has a marginally faster reload scaler than luna
felwinters helm can get you a 30% debuff, which is more than grenade's 15%
maybe banner shield's 40% buff could be worth trying for giggles
and 3x surge for 22%
The raid with holes that suck you in is called crotas, my lfgs have shown those holes have magnetic properties
I love this gun. Not even because its good but only that it has rats on it
I need gamers like this. Since i got rivensbane and shadow and blacksmith title i really haven’t raided.
I don’t know if it’s mentioned but maybe some extra people running mechaneers trick sleeves for the damage buff and also there is a glitch atm that doubles that dmg buff if you use 2 side arms, that might be enuf to squeeze yall to the end. Oryx dps phase having the boss do no dmg to u and small ads around to refresh the buff is perfect for this
You got a Playlist you Are using in the vids because i love Those Songs ❤
Imagine if Rat King had a perk or something where it could build, individually, stacks of rat pack by getting kills. It's a fine exotic alone, great in a group but the complete lack of a perk when running solo does kinda hurt it a small bit, maybe make it so that getting kills also gives you the presence of even more rat kings, like if you're on a fireteam, you can get a bunch of kills and go up to like 3x rat pack potency alone for your allies
Ya know at 11:40 ya'll mention being on the Raid team as a joke.
But I would actually love to see a video of you all designing your own raid, each member responsible for a particular part of the Raid! Like one for each encounter, one for loot, and one for l o r e ?
I think that'd be cool to see from you all!
(Edit: I realize one for jumping puzzles would make more sense then lore I think-)
Give outbreak perfected some love 😢 - resident outbreak adict
Hold up till that thing gets extended mag and rewind rounds that thing is going to go hard!
All in favor let's make this happen
@@nuketown2015 shit man 6 man only outbreak run when that combo is available im game
I'm down to add an outbreak video to the list, any suggestions?
@Toadsmoothie last outbreak maybe but you'd have to do riven legit or maybe deep stone outbreak since siva is braytech
GOATED editing
Guarantee you can do Oryx with the tricksleeves damage glitch. You'd technically need to make use of another weapon to get yourself low enough to trigger it, but once you did that, getting something like 700% increased damage on rat king with glitched tricksleeves has 100% gotta be able to take him down in final stand
5:55 is rts mode
for each damage phase at oryx when you were considering other options, someone couldve switched to lumina and gotten a few kills and given everyone Blessing of the Sky for an extra 10% damage buff (because you already have well). that MIGHTVE been able to push out that last little bit of damage for final stand
The plates in oryx's thrown should've had Ruby on R, Axolochi on A, Toad on T and Stecky on S
ahhh, time to sit down and relax with a nice toadsmoothie video- and that's a buncha rats. love it
Add a hunter? Tether, grenades and smoke bombs weaken enemies. If you don't want to do damage with the super I'm sure there is ways around that by choosing a "tactical tether" spot? These things combined could potentially boost everyone's damage just enough? Just a theory. I'ma see if I can get a group together and try at least. 😎 Looks fun!
Now… In theory… If you have a Hunter(s) running Speedloader Slacks and Warlocks running Lunafactions or Necrotic Grips. With how close you were on DPS, both of those things could push it over. There might also be some kind of play with Aeons…
Yes it absolutely is possible. Ive done 6x ratking with my clan.
As stated by others the main thing your group was missing out on was lunafaction boots for the wells. 3x surge mods instead of 2x is free damage, no reason not to.. also the seperate bombs for final stand as mentioned by others. You do 1 first and a luna well/rift. Then when the 2nd bomb is triggered everyone push up to the edge inside the aura and drop a second luna well/rift.
Hunter with Mechaneer's Tricksleeves maybe the call to beat Oryx. Just make sure they're not in the well. You might not even need the damage glitch
For final stand. I noticed you kept doing both bombs at the same time. You know you can do one at a time and double the final damage phase time!
I was watching toadsmootie earlier today, I must've had a feeling he was posting today. Love the stuff toad keep it up ❤❤
I would've allowed a tether or tractor cannon for the better debuff. That'd definitely make final stand possible.
I have an idea: thy named crota’s end. swords and glaves only with knight drip required but the ultimate catch is you guys have to talk like a Shakespeare play and call-outs have to be the names to different plays
You can kill oryx with it. You can detonate the 2 bombs at final individually, stunning him twice. And lunafactions also boost the range of weapons
Add insult to injury on Riven and try do complete Last Wish with Wish-Keeper only
Lol I commented this idea on the kingsfall laser tag video!! I'm so glad it's a real thing now
Dripped out Oryx was not on my bingo card for today’s edition of life, love it👍
my clanmates and i did this but on Last Wish. it was awesome. we also did VoW with only trace rifles.
Touch of malice vs vow of the diciple
6:00 imagine if destiny actually played with overhead camera
To complete the set of his signature weapons you could use Vexcalibur in a raid like VoG or GoS
Not sure about Agers tho
You could use Lunafaction Boots on warlock to extend your range in the wells, so you don't lose as much damage in the final stand due to him flying away from you. That could be just enough of a difference. Were you hitting for 4.5k in the intended range and 3k in the final stand, or was that just due to having weaken proc sometimes? You could also just use a tether, as tethers benefit the pack.
I've NEVER seen Rat Pack past X2.... That's crazy. I wish I had friends to run RK with to see how far we could make it in PvP AND PvE.
Let meh enjoy the EASIEST Raid video ya ever made. I have tea ready...TIME TO WATCH.
Toadsmothie never fails to make a 100/10 video
Mechaneers tricksleeves with the new rocket sidearm can get you the damage buff consistanaly on oryx, we had two hunters do the damage rotatation, they stand outside the well activate the perk start damaging, enter the well and they have 4 seconds of that 2x damage buff, that was enough for my team to beat him
Stacking bombs: you have to stun Oryx before she claps. After she slams, her chest will open. Shoot it to stun her. Idk what would one-shot in D2, but D1 was a single golden gun with celestial.
I’m glad I got this as a suggestion. I really enjoy your content!
What if someone used Salvation’s Grip to create a crystal to move closer to Oryx? Maybe the damage could improve just a bit. Also make sure you have kinetic surges.
Dude the crypt of the necrodancer music 👌
About time we showed the Pretender to the Throne who the REAL King is
Video idea!:
For the queen
Queensbreaker run Dw this will end good trust.
Queens only with melees supers surges grenades and heavy ammo drop boosts! (Aeon runners) :)
RAT KING IS THE GUN IN THE GAME RAZY WIN
lmao good vid man love you
Now Vault of Glass with only Hierarchy of Needs!!
Don't know if you have done this before but would love Root of Nightmares only in Carl Wheezers voice or Sheen's voice
Mech tricksleeves would have gone crazy
Perhaps some hunters running mechaneer’s tricksleeves would let you beat oryx. In addition to all the armor mods like triple kinetic surge, reload speed, and target acquisition.
what if you were to use 3x kinetic surges instead of just 2x?
Should've used a Lunafaction Well for the extended range you get from Lunafaction boots. Would've helped negate the -2m range on Rat King.
Have you tried it with Mechaneer's Tricksleeves or whatever those were called? Hunter exotic, boosts sidearm damage, albeit conditionally. Could make it actually possible
This was one of the best runs I’ve ever seen, I love it. I would say this earned a sub, but I did that long ago. Keep up the good work, frogmilkshake
Gathering my Rat Soul team now. Gonna do another run. We’ve already done all raids. Next Friday (5/3/24) we gonna do the run.
Toad should I buy the season? I havent heard much reviews but I like the Ahamkara so, should I?
As a HARDCORE Ahamkara enjoyers, I 100% recommend it! But that's up to you to decide :).
I mean if he doesnt reply, as a random internet stranger id recommend it. Its one of the only times a seasonal story has made me genuinely emotional if u care abt that kind of thing. If you like the ahamkara, this season is the only one you should buy.
@@Toadsmoothie 👍
@@EepyGirlLava he did
Ye boy Rat King getting it former glory from this video
a few hunters with mechaneer's tricksleeves might've helped.
He’s the cosmic rat king? Well I’m the mind goblin. *Running season of the splicer helmet with that shader*