nice video, my old 808 sounds def different then the din sync... the behringer does well nothing that a eq and a bit saturation cant fix. to me there is no better or worse they both sound good. after processing , drumbus and so on they will all do the job
Geweldig gedaan. Mijn RE-909 doet het na een jaar nog prima, het gaat zoas je zegt om de bouw. Ikzelf heb het bouwen van mijn Dinsync vooral gezien als een uitdaging, niet beseffende dat er veel meer uit voort gekomen is zoals pure liefde en trots (en uiteindelijk wat duurder uitgevallen dan gedacht😅). Thanks or sharing!!
@paulhellings I will continue in English... yeah the research consumed the most of the build-time, especially the rare parts were a pain in the ass to find and aquire. Soldering was pure fun, except the hundreds of resistor part ;-)After I got finished it worked like a charm in one go (except for just one step button which I still have to fix, probably a faulty solder joint). I acquired the "909 revolution" update kit, which will improve lots of anoying issues of the "old" beast. Next project? I think the 101 is the most interesting one for me. The 808 is a bit too big a project for now...
@@ACIDis... nice! The 909 is also one I'd like to build, though the RD-9 works fine for now. Will check that revolution kit, on the 808 I find the interface really annoying, nice that you can 'upgrade' that on the 909. I am also eyeballing the 101, looks like a great machine in that form factor and the building docs look great compared those of the 808 :).
There’s a volume gap between the two. To better understand the quality of the single tones maybe there should be a more effective volume matching. Very nice video anyway. Thanks.
thanks! I agree about the volume, but I didn't feel like taking the time to match it precisely everytime, making it a much longer video (or more editing afterwards) ;)
Interesting. The DIN Sync version seems the more 'accurate' of the two, and sounds very close to my actual TR-808. I also like that they used an exact replica of the design of the original TR-808. Even the screws are in the same place 😊 The Behringer RD-8 is mostly okay sounding, but the snare sounded a bit weak and the clap pitched a bit too low. The cowbell on the other hand sounded closer to my 808 on the RD-8 instead of the RE-808.
I calibrated and tuned the re-808 according the original service notes. First time doing it though, so I might have 'overdone' some things. But thats also the reason why no two (re)808's sound the same.
@@paulhellings It seems to me you've done a good job! As you probably know real TR-808 all tend to sound a little different from each other as well. So it's really hard to say how it 'should' sound anyways. In the end it comes down to personal preference and what you're comparing it too. I always liked the sound of the 808 on the SOS band albums, which sounds close to my 808 but also not quite identical.
Many thanks for this. Some of the sounds on the RE-808 are a little crisper (kick and snare, in particular). Toms seem to ring out a bit longer on the RD8. Might be fooling myself but I’d also say there’s a little more space around the sounds coming of the RE808 - makes the rhythms a bit more cohesive? However, I know there are supposed to be some differences at the timing/sequencing level so I dunno if I totally trust my ears on that one. RD8 generally sounds pretty good/close - would be difficult to identify which was which in a mix and/or after processing. To my ears, RE808 has a slight tonal edge though. Makes it easy for me to be happy with my RD8 until I can get an RE808 sometime soon. :)
thanks! Het was mijn eerste diy build en daardoor best uitdagend, vooral om alle info, manuals en bill of materials te begrijpen. Maar wel te doen dus :)
Even though it doesn't sound quite as good I'm still a big supporter of cheap disposable Behringer clones. Even though they steal from the DIY community. But I'm also interested in the interface/sequencers and which is easier to use? Why are there so many gd buttons on the Behringer? It's hard to get more intuitive and direct than the original 808/RE sequencer...
more intuitive than the OG 808 sequencer? I rather use the Behringer to be honest, although I sequence almost everything with the Cirklon. That changed though with the RE-808, since it has no midi. I find it pretty clunky to work on it. But hey., it does not mean it's no fun working on it ;)
Why not use the crossfader? The RD-8 sounds slightly better in the lows and has a more pleasant snare and clap. The Dinsync sounds brighter and looks more like a real 808. Maybe a real 808 would sound brighter too.
Nice comparison. I’m not a big fan of the wave folder on the main outs. Muddies it up to my ears. The RD9 mk 2 is a little better and sounds better on the individual outs. That’s my 2 cents.
@@ConductiveIRL There must be a certain satisfaction in supporting DinSync on their good work. I would rather own the RE! The RD is what I have and I don't feel left out. They all do 808 well...
I'm actually surprised how off the RD sounds. Especially the rimshot sounds real bad, lifeless. One sound being that far off is enough to turn me off. Pretty important sound, that rimshot..
You don’t have a clue. I own 10 different Behringer clones and they all sound phenomenal. If you can tell the difference between them and the originals in a mix you’re either a liar or the Rain Man of synthesizers. Total BDS.
@@raymondreed5708you get what you pay for. Every behringer I’ve played on feels like a cheap toy. Yes, they sound good. So do a lot of things. You should have standards as a consumer but I guess you don’t mind when your music products are made unethically. It’s hard to care in this world but maybe start at your hobbies and work outwards from there.
The Behringer was made for people who want to work. RE series clones are made for fan boys that think they are getting the OG and often failing to build it correctly and frying components.
@@Its303AcidBassI don't think you get the vibe and unerstand how much work, besides work, it takes to actually built a monster like this yourself. And you are right, you would probably fry it, he didn't. A bit more respectfull would be at it's place here. Make music not war
din sync knobs are insane
Very good comparison
Interesting! Thanks for taking the effort to make and share this.
@@GuidoSanten haha thanks! Meer effort dan ik dacht. Best lastig nog om dit een beetje fatsoenlijk te doen.
fantastic build, and gr8 sound demo comparison
nice video, my old 808 sounds def different then the din sync... the behringer does well nothing that a eq and a bit saturation cant fix. to me there is no better or worse they both sound good. after processing , drumbus and so on they will all do the job
Well put. Life is too short to agonise over the differences here.
Yup, they will both do the job!
The Yocto 808 is the most accurate / best sounding clone I have seen. Re 808 might be no2.
Geweldig gedaan. Mijn RE-909 doet het na een jaar nog prima, het gaat zoas je zegt om de bouw. Ikzelf heb het bouwen van mijn Dinsync vooral gezien als een uitdaging, niet beseffende dat er veel meer uit voort gekomen is zoals pure liefde en trots (en uiteindelijk wat duurder uitgevallen dan gedacht😅). Thanks or sharing!!
haha, thanks! Kostte inderdaad wat meer uiteindelijk, maar dan heb je ook wat :). Op naar de volgende!
@paulhellings I will continue in English... yeah the research consumed the most of the build-time, especially the rare parts were a pain in the ass to find and aquire. Soldering was pure fun, except the hundreds of resistor part ;-)After I got finished it worked like a charm in one go (except for just one step button which I still have to fix, probably a faulty solder joint). I acquired the "909 revolution" update kit, which will improve lots of anoying issues of the "old" beast. Next project? I think the 101 is the most interesting one for me. The 808 is a bit too big a project for now...
@@ACIDis... nice! The 909 is also one I'd like to build, though the RD-9 works fine for now. Will check that revolution kit, on the 808 I find the interface really annoying, nice that you can 'upgrade' that on the 909. I am also eyeballing the 101, looks like a great machine in that form factor and the building docs look great compared those of the 808 :).
There’s a volume gap between the two. To better understand the quality of the single tones maybe there should be a more effective volume matching. Very nice video anyway. Thanks.
thanks! I agree about the volume, but I didn't feel like taking the time to match it precisely everytime, making it a much longer video (or more editing afterwards) ;)
Great cool comparison
Interesting. The DIN Sync version seems the more 'accurate' of the two, and sounds very close to my actual TR-808. I also like that they used an exact replica of the design of the original TR-808. Even the screws are in the same place 😊 The Behringer RD-8 is mostly okay sounding, but the snare sounded a bit weak and the clap pitched a bit too low. The cowbell on the other hand sounded closer to my 808 on the RD-8 instead of the RE-808.
I calibrated and tuned the re-808 according the original service notes. First time doing it though, so I might have 'overdone' some things. But thats also the reason why no two (re)808's sound the same.
@@paulhellings It seems to me you've done a good job! As you probably know real TR-808 all tend to sound a little different from each other as well. So it's really hard to say how it 'should' sound anyways. In the end it comes down to personal preference and what you're comparing it too. I always liked the sound of the 808 on the SOS band albums, which sounds close to my 808 but also not quite identical.
@@MacXpert74 Thanks :)
Many thanks for this.
Some of the sounds on the RE-808 are a little crisper (kick and snare, in particular). Toms seem to ring out a bit longer on the RD8.
Might be fooling myself but I’d also say there’s a little more space around the sounds coming of the RE808 - makes the rhythms a bit more cohesive? However, I know there are supposed to be some differences at the timing/sequencing level so I dunno if I totally trust my ears on that one.
RD8 generally sounds pretty good/close - would be difficult to identify which was which in a mix and/or after processing. To my ears, RE808 has a slight tonal edge though.
Makes it easy for me to be happy with my RD8 until I can get an RE808 sometime soon. :)
Very cool comparison!! I read the description after i watched the video and i think i agree with your assessment. Was it hard to build?
thanks! Het was mijn eerste diy build en daardoor best uitdagend, vooral om alle info, manuals en bill of materials te begrijpen. Maar wel te doen dus :)
Even though it doesn't sound quite as good I'm still a big supporter of cheap disposable Behringer clones. Even though they steal from the DIY community. But I'm also interested in the interface/sequencers and which is easier to use? Why are there so many gd buttons on the Behringer? It's hard to get more intuitive and direct than the original 808/RE sequencer...
more intuitive than the OG 808 sequencer? I rather use the Behringer to be honest, although I sequence almost everything with the Cirklon. That changed though with the RE-808, since it has no midi. I find it pretty clunky to work on it. But hey., it does not mean it's no fun working on it ;)
How do Behringer steal from the diy community?
That beat sounds like cold blooded rick james
Cool carpet
every studio needs one :)
You’re missing the vital ingredient, 3 x Roland 808’s to here the difference overall between all 3 old units and the new clones
@@Kung_Fu_Jesus yeah, would be nice, maybe one day…
Why not use the crossfader? The RD-8 sounds slightly better in the lows and has a more pleasant snare and clap. The Dinsync sounds brighter and looks more like a real 808. Maybe a real 808 would sound brighter too.
I planned to use the crossfader, but you can't use those channels mono for as far I know.
Funny how just like original 808 my Re-808 sounds different to yours
@@telogic1 yeah, comparisons are pretty difficult to make when machines as the TR and RE already differ from each other :)
@@telogic1 really curious in what ways yours sound different than mine.
Nice comparison. I’m not a big fan of the wave folder on the main outs. Muddies it up to my ears. The RD9 mk 2 is a little better and sounds better on the individual outs. That’s my 2 cents.
The individual outs do sound better
@ which do you prefer? DinSync or RD-8?
@@ConductiveIRL
There must be a certain satisfaction in supporting DinSync on their good work. I would rather own the RE! The RD is what I have and I don't feel left out. They all do 808 well...
@@PorchBass i agree it’s good to support smaller manufacturers. But I have a drum machine problem.
to my ears the Behringer sounds muddy - especially the toms
I'm actually surprised how off the RD sounds. Especially the rimshot sounds real bad, lifeless. One sound being that far off is enough to turn me off. Pretty important sound, that rimshot..
save your money and buy a clone
@@HazeAnderson If its just about the sound, you’re right
The Din-Sync is dominant, and the Behringer is dogshit. Uli, his company, and their products are trash.
nobody cares
You don’t have a clue. I own 10 different Behringer clones and they all sound phenomenal. If you can tell the difference between them and the originals in a mix you’re either a liar or the Rain Man of synthesizers. Total BDS.
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@@raymondreed5708you get what you pay for. Every behringer I’ve played on feels like a cheap toy. Yes, they sound good. So do a lot of things.
You should have standards as a consumer but I guess you don’t mind when your music products are made unethically. It’s hard to care in this world but maybe start at your hobbies and work outwards from there.
@ Most consumer electronics are produced unethically, including the device you replied from. Your attempt at being sanctimonious has failed.
lol the din costs almost 10x the price of the behringer! gtfo
Yeah and with pro audio gear, you usually get what you pay for: cheap crap. Especially Behringer.
the dinsync is much more than just the drummachine, I had a lot of fun building it. How it sounds was not the reason to buy the kit,
The Behringer was made for people who want to work. RE series clones are made for fan boys that think they are getting the OG and often failing to build it correctly and frying components.
@@Its303AcidBass lol
@@Its303AcidBassI don't think you get the vibe and unerstand how much work, besides work, it takes to actually built a monster like this yourself. And you are right, you would probably fry it, he didn't. A bit more respectfull would be at it's place here. Make music not war