Yes. Throwing Nidhoggs eyes off the bridge was a mistake. But in defense, below that bridge is an Aetheric Storm to dangerous for any mortal to enter. The only reason they were recovered was because that Paladin Warrior of Darkness was spying and saw it. It was Elidibus who retrieved them, one of the only being in FFXIV that could actually do it. If the spy hadn't seen it happen, nobody would have been able to retrieve them.
I think it's fair to say that it's very, very easy to miss that detail. They never discuss the aether storm below in the MSQ as far as I recall, and graphically it just looks cloudy. No doubt it's mentioned in the Coerthas side quests or NPC dialogue, maybe a journal quest entry, but I think it's something the game could have telegraphed better
@@Rc3651 I'm not saying it couldn't be missed, but it is in direct dialog between Scions in the MSQ after Baelsar's Wall dungeon. Alfie spells it out. In this video it's at approximately 25:45 timestamp. I even had to reread the line. I thought it was just an Aether storm, but Alphie is more specific and refers to it as Wind and Water aspected Aether storm no mortal could survive. I just figured that meant Elidibus went and got it, but now I think it could have been the PLD Warrior of Darkness too because they already renounced their flesh and are more like Acsians now. But I don't remember them being specific on the Elidibus thing, so really not sure, just speculation. Either way, I just love another WoW creator I follow playing another game I love, not just WoW, which I've played since 2005. It's just great for MMOs as a whole!
The one thing that always stood out to me in the Omega vs Shinryu fight cinematic, is that Tsunami. all that water at a border between a forest and arid plateaus. Sure, the water came from aether, but that flood must have been NASTY for the locals. Oh but I also liked that the levinstrike knocked Omega down for a bit.
The way I see it, Ilberd was a crazy man who was willing to sacrifice anything to liberate Ala Mhigo as soon as possible. Plenty of other NPCs wanted to liberate Ala Mhigo, but none of them wanted to rush into it given how big a threat the Garlean Empire was. So Ilberd declared them enemies and forced their hand.
In Ilberd's eyes, anyone who wasn't willing to sacrifice absolutely everything they had, right here, right now, to liberate Ala Mhigo _today_ was an enemy almost as bad as the Garleans themselves, saved only by virtue of being someone he could manipulate to FORCE them into conflict with the Garleans. "If you're not sacrificing not only your own life, but the lives of everyone you know and love to free my homeland, then fuck you, _I'LL FORCE YOU TO."_
What I find quite impressive about the Omega vs Shinryu cutscene is, that it isn't even a pre-rendered scene. They made it look this good with just their game engine. Wait... why would Aymeric say he never saw such forces? Didn't he pay attention when Niddhog and Hreasvelgar fought right over his head in Ishgard? I'd say that clash was no less fierce than Omega and Shinryu.
So here is some Final Fantasy V lore. Both Shinryu and Omega are Extra bosses from FFV, both of whom are almost Equal to the final boss of the game and are also optional bosses. Two of Shinryu's signature skills is Tidal Wave, and Atomic Ray, both of which is shown off beautifully in the scene along with Omega's Delta Attack is one of his signature skills too. Seeing both was a sight to see, as I am a huge FFV fan ^-^
I *think* the Yda-isn't-Yda situation is a weird relic of 1.0, where the Yda that appears in echo visions seems to have a slightly personality than present day Yda, but I don't know if that was intended or not.
One fun bit of trivia is that the original title awarded for completing the 3.5 story was "Papalymo's Final Witness" which, of course, is a massive spoiler. They changed it very, very quickly. 1:02:45 - Thank you so much for this it ruled
it is possible to learn the samurai job at lvl 50 and thus way ahead of the meet and greet with Gosetsu or the Stormblood expansion. if you like the style, go for it. free weapon and garb of samurai job is yours just for accepting the offer in the introduction in Ul'dah.
Well what have we here? Someone else playing through ffxiv for the first time? Nice! Since I can't experience this game for the first time again myself, I find I have to live vicariously through others now. Can't wait to see you play through the next few expansions. 😁
I feel sad about Papalymo's demise. But to be honest, I feel he was trying to redeem himself after his prayer failed to stop the re-sealing of Bahamut back in the Calamity. :(
It's not edited in 😂 I have an overlay where if people you as an emote in chat it shows up on my stream. So they were using that emote at that time because it was relevant but the placement of it was random.
Before feeling sorry for Ilberd, I would suggest watching the video by the Synodic Scribe. The video name is this: FFXIV Writing- Why I think Ilberd was an Idiot It goes into detail about lore in FFXIV, things involving Ala Mhigo and the Autumn War, and why people weren't exactly in the biggest rush to liberate Ala Mhigo and so on.
@@BongSwansong I can imagine some of the Padjali had PTSD flashbacks to the Autumn War seeing the Monks from Ala Mhigo march in during the scene in Endwalker when Lyse went to offer her aid to Gridania, simply because some of them are old enough to remember that war. And they couldn't have picked a worse leader. Lyse is just *dumb* as the MSQ will prove her to be later in the quests and especially in MSQ quests after the main story is like.... done with. She worked with the Scions for years, so she herself has experience working with and knowing that Tempered individuals won't give a damn what anyone else wants, and they'll want to temper everyone. So why in the everloving fuck would she invite a tempered snake woman into a council meeting at all? Even if there WERE no risk of her summoning at the council meeting, she would have nothing constructive to offer, because she'd just want the rest of them to follow her goddess and would accept nothing less.
@@rednova2212to be fair to Lyse in that scene Her hand was forced. The tempered were going to force their way into the meeting if not invited. It was a compromise that let them in the meeting. It was either fight them then and there or let them in. A plan both Lyse AND Raubahn decided on. Nobody calls him an idiot despite the fact he agreed to it. Nobody could've guessed what would've happened during the meeting.
@@absollum In counter: - - - - - - - - The scions have extensive experience dealing with the tempered and their kind. She knew, and could have reminded Raubahn. In fact, our WoL should have reminded them both and said how stupid it is. Tempered individuals are put to sleep *on the regular* simply because they are tempered and their faith gives more strength to the possibility of another summoning. This, plus the fact that we've seen, first hand, that a person can use a relic and perform a summoning through becoming the figure themselves? We could *absolutely* predict that it was a possibility she wanted to summon Lakshmi. I think it was dumb of Raubahn to agree with it too, it is simply the fact that he's not among the scions. Usually when it comes to the leftovers of Primals, it's the Scions that deal with the cleanup, or it's lower troops, and Raubahns too high up to have to deal with it personally. It's how the chain of command in *any* military works. Still, he should know, and the fact that there are *any* tempered individuals living in any lands is cause for concern. They never took care of the problem at its root, and look at what it nearly cost. I swear, I slapped my face so hard the moment the woman started ranting and said 'Wow, who could've seen this coming? Oh, wait, every single one of the scions should've! Including Lyse, who was a scion for a good enough amount of time to know they're a lost cause. They were worried about them forcing their way in? At this point in time, we have a military occupation surrounding them all, we could have moved in on them from all angles and done a literal genocide, with the Warrior of Light leading the charge. Who the fuck are THEY to threaten ANYONE. Or make ANY demands, for that matter, especially after being the cause of trouble as they were.
@@rednova2212 counter counter Answering their demands with a genocide is really bad. People would 100% bring up the time the Scions led/threatened a genocide, even if it were against the tempered. Second, while we know people can summon primals using themselves as vessels, they still required crystals/a ton of aether, something the tempered were stripped of prior to the meeting. They also only allowed the leader in. Everyone else was ordered to wait outside of the city. The only reason the tempered's plan worked was due to tempering some of the guards prior who snuck crystals into the meeting in first place. I'm honestly more surprised that their plan worked, given the tempered had to have tempered the guards before we killed their primal. The guard's fanaticism should have given them away long beforehand. The only two incidents close to this was when Myrlwib's father lured his allies into ambush when he was tempered, and that merchant that worked with the amalj'aa in ARR. The tempered have never done anything as sneaky as this before, at least as far as I've been able to find. Lyse and Raubahn had every reason to believe that humoring the tempered was a safer option than denying them.
Yes. Throwing Nidhoggs eyes off the bridge was a mistake. But in defense, below that bridge is an Aetheric Storm to dangerous for any mortal to enter. The only reason they were recovered was because that Paladin Warrior of Darkness was spying and saw it. It was Elidibus who retrieved them, one of the only being in FFXIV that could actually do it.
If the spy hadn't seen it happen, nobody would have been able to retrieve them.
Yeah. There was 99.9% chance that everything was going to be alright. But the 0.1% happened.
@@alexanderougai4899 And this is why Paladins get so few buffs.
They know what they did...
I think it's fair to say that it's very, very easy to miss that detail. They never discuss the aether storm below in the MSQ as far as I recall, and graphically it just looks cloudy. No doubt it's mentioned in the Coerthas side quests or NPC dialogue, maybe a journal quest entry, but I think it's something the game could have telegraphed better
@@Rc3651 I'm not saying it couldn't be missed, but it is in direct dialog between Scions in the MSQ after Baelsar's Wall dungeon. Alfie spells it out. In this video it's at approximately 25:45 timestamp.
I even had to reread the line. I thought it was just an Aether storm, but Alphie is more specific and refers to it as Wind and Water aspected Aether storm no mortal could survive. I just figured that meant Elidibus went and got it, but now I think it could have been the PLD Warrior of Darkness too because they already renounced their flesh and are more like Acsians now. But I don't remember them being specific on the Elidibus thing, so really not sure, just speculation.
Either way, I just love another WoW creator I follow playing another game I love, not just WoW, which I've played since 2005.
It's just great for MMOs as a whole!
@@Puddingskin01lmao 😂😂😂
I have to say, Gosetsu face planting on the docks cracks me up every time, best scene so far 😂😂
Potato down.
So sad
The one thing that always stood out to me in the Omega vs Shinryu fight cinematic, is that Tsunami. all that water at a border between a forest and arid plateaus. Sure, the water came from aether, but that flood must have been NASTY for the locals. Oh but I also liked that the levinstrike knocked Omega down for a bit.
Oh I didnt even realize that levinstrike would hit omega hard, yeah.
The way I see it, Ilberd was a crazy man who was willing to sacrifice anything to liberate Ala Mhigo as soon as possible. Plenty of other NPCs wanted to liberate Ala Mhigo, but none of them wanted to rush into it given how big a threat the Garlean Empire was. So Ilberd declared them enemies and forced their hand.
In Ilberd's eyes, anyone who wasn't willing to sacrifice absolutely everything they had, right here, right now, to liberate Ala Mhigo _today_ was an enemy almost as bad as the Garleans themselves, saved only by virtue of being someone he could manipulate to FORCE them into conflict with the Garleans.
"If you're not sacrificing not only your own life, but the lives of everyone you know and love to free my homeland, then fuck you, _I'LL FORCE YOU TO."_
What I find quite impressive about the Omega vs Shinryu cutscene is, that it isn't even a pre-rendered scene. They made it look this good with just their game engine.
Wait... why would Aymeric say he never saw such forces? Didn't he pay attention when Niddhog and Hreasvelgar fought right over his head in Ishgard? I'd say that clash was no less fierce than Omega and Shinryu.
So here is some Final Fantasy V lore. Both Shinryu and Omega are Extra bosses from FFV, both of whom are almost Equal to the final boss of the game and are also optional bosses. Two of Shinryu's signature skills is Tidal Wave, and Atomic Ray, both of which is shown off beautifully in the scene along with Omega's Delta Attack is one of his signature skills too. Seeing both was a sight to see, as I am a huge FFV fan ^-^
I *think* the Yda-isn't-Yda situation is a weird relic of 1.0, where the Yda that appears in echo visions seems to have a slightly personality than present day Yda, but I don't know if that was intended or not.
29:13 Now I can't look at that salute the same way anymore 😂
Same I'm in the Twin Adders and hasn't put that together
I appreciate the constant kitty-cam.
I still miss the lil dude v.v
Also, you could say Yda got a new Lyse on life
One fun bit of trivia is that the original title awarded for completing the 3.5 story was "Papalymo's Final Witness" which, of course, is a massive spoiler. They changed it very, very quickly.
1:02:45 - Thank you so much for this it ruled
it is possible to learn the samurai job at lvl 50 and thus way ahead of the meet and greet with Gosetsu or the Stormblood expansion.
if you like the style, go for it. free weapon and garb of samurai job is yours just for accepting the offer in the introduction in Ul'dah.
Through tragedy and sacrifice, we rise to meet a new dawn.
Well what have we here? Someone else playing through ffxiv for the first time? Nice!
Since I can't experience this game for the first time again myself, I find I have to live vicariously through others now. Can't wait to see you play through the next few expansions. 😁
Remembering June 2017 is only three months away- yarrrr 😞
PS3 died for these cinematics
r.i.p. Papalymo.
We miss our papa
I feel sad about Papalymo's demise. But to be honest, I feel he was trying to redeem himself after his prayer failed to stop the re-sealing of Bahamut back in the Calamity. :(
24:03 I can't tell if this is edited in or if that emote really landed so perfectly on screen at this moment 😂
It's not edited in 😂 I have an overlay where if people you as an emote in chat it shows up on my stream. So they were using that emote at that time because it was relevant but the placement of it was random.
Before feeling sorry for Ilberd, I would suggest watching the video by the Synodic Scribe.
The video name is this:
FFXIV Writing- Why I think Ilberd was an Idiot
It goes into detail about lore in FFXIV, things involving Ala Mhigo and the Autumn War, and why people weren't exactly in the biggest rush to liberate Ala Mhigo and so on.
Ala Mihgo deserved everything they got, I agree. Honestly I still dont like em.
@@BongSwansong I can imagine some of the Padjali had PTSD flashbacks to the Autumn War seeing the Monks from Ala Mhigo march in during the scene in Endwalker when Lyse went to offer her aid to Gridania, simply because some of them are old enough to remember that war.
And they couldn't have picked a worse leader.
Lyse is just *dumb* as the MSQ will prove her to be later in the quests and especially in MSQ quests after the main story is like.... done with.
She worked with the Scions for years, so she herself has experience working with and knowing that Tempered individuals won't give a damn what anyone else wants, and they'll want to temper everyone. So why in the everloving fuck would she invite a tempered snake woman into a council meeting at all? Even if there WERE no risk of her summoning at the council meeting, she would have nothing constructive to offer, because she'd just want the rest of them to follow her goddess and would accept nothing less.
@@rednova2212to be fair to Lyse in that scene
Her hand was forced. The tempered were going to force their way into the meeting if not invited. It was a compromise that let them in the meeting. It was either fight them then and there or let them in.
A plan both Lyse AND Raubahn decided on. Nobody calls him an idiot despite the fact he agreed to it.
Nobody could've guessed what would've happened during the meeting.
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The scions have extensive experience dealing with the tempered and their kind. She knew, and could have reminded Raubahn. In fact, our WoL should have reminded them both and said how stupid it is.
Tempered individuals are put to sleep *on the regular* simply because they are tempered and their faith gives more strength to the possibility of another summoning.
This, plus the fact that we've seen, first hand, that a person can use a relic and perform a summoning through becoming the figure themselves? We could *absolutely* predict that it was a possibility she wanted to summon Lakshmi.
I think it was dumb of Raubahn to agree with it too, it is simply the fact that he's not among the scions. Usually when it comes to the leftovers of Primals, it's the Scions that deal with the cleanup, or it's lower troops, and Raubahns too high up to have to deal with it personally. It's how the chain of command in *any* military works. Still, he should know, and the fact that there are *any* tempered individuals living in any lands is cause for concern. They never took care of the problem at its root, and look at what it nearly cost.
I swear, I slapped my face so hard the moment the woman started ranting and said 'Wow, who could've seen this coming? Oh, wait, every single one of the scions should've! Including Lyse, who was a scion for a good enough amount of time to know they're a lost cause. They were worried about them forcing their way in? At this point in time, we have a military occupation surrounding them all, we could have moved in on them from all angles and done a literal genocide, with the Warrior of Light leading the charge. Who the fuck are THEY to threaten ANYONE. Or make ANY demands, for that matter, especially after being the cause of trouble as they were.
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Answering their demands with a genocide is really bad. People would 100% bring up the time the Scions led/threatened a genocide, even if it were against the tempered.
Second, while we know people can summon primals using themselves as vessels, they still required crystals/a ton of aether, something the tempered were stripped of prior to the meeting.
They also only allowed the leader in. Everyone else was ordered to wait outside of the city. The only reason the tempered's plan worked was due to tempering some of the guards prior who snuck crystals into the meeting in first place.
I'm honestly more surprised that their plan worked, given the tempered had to have tempered the guards before we killed their primal. The guard's fanaticism should have given them away long beforehand.
The only two incidents close to this was when Myrlwib's father lured his allies into ambush when he was tempered, and that merchant that worked with the amalj'aa in ARR. The tempered have never done anything as sneaky as this before, at least as far as I've been able to find.
Lyse and Raubahn had every reason to believe that humoring the tempered was a safer option than denying them.
You might wanna move away your twitch chat from the dialogue box, its kinda overlapping and its kinda bothering to see, nothing else really.
Mists of Pandaria has nothing on Stormblood.
Stormblood: "I am Mists of Pandaria. Or rather, Mists of Pandaria as it should have been."