"The quality of player will always catch up to you" 100% James. Great quote. Arteta is good at coaching a system, but it you dont have the quality of player, it will catch up to you.
If Merion puts his chance away, we wouldn't be here complaining. If Martinelli put 10% more effort into his game, maybe things will he different. If we had quality attackers, we wouldn't be here comolaining.
Yep I remember in the mid 2000's all my man united mates said they were getting the next Ronaldinho. Didn't work out that way and he turned them down for Inter Milan anyway 😂
Turkish makes a fantastic point. The big game changing goal scoring players we need usually come with big egos. Can Arteta manage big egos? I’m not so sure he can. So….is that an impediment to getting big name players…? Is this why we haven’t got the big name players we need to raise our level significantly? Interesting thought
@@tris87don16Auba who had two jobs,score goals and captain the team. He and Lacca did neither and he even came late for a North London Derby...lol.... your claim is just super wild 😂😂
It’s NOT irrelevant that this decision will never be given again. If it was a one-off ok, there’s too many occasions of this happening. Why do we have to work twice as hard as other teams to get results? It’s not fair and is gonna cost us the title this year.
I’ve never seen a manager who changes philosophy so often. One season he’s klopp, the next he’s guardiola and this time he’s a poor version of Chelsea’s mourinho. And none of them involve a proper striker.
@ ask yourself this. Why has the spending at Arsenal stopped once were a dead cert for top 4? The owners want sustainability at Arsenal, they don’t care about success.
More like Moyesiah than anyone else. Merino is basically his Fellaini, limited on ball, does a defensive shift, physical presence of some kind and is a nuisance in the box. Arteta likes a set piece, just like Moyes & Pulis Stark & dark contrast to Wengerball.
@@NI-ld2iuthat’s why confuses me the most. Our football in 22/23 was so exciting and successful. How has he morphed us into this hideous defensive side? Having a defense as good as we do gives you more right to go forward and attack. Just like it didn’t for Wenger all those years ago.
37:20 So we are complaining about rotating the squad now this season. Last season everyone was complaining that Arteta never rotates and he's playing these guys to death. We have more injuries by January than the entirety of last season of course the team is going to change, not to mention the players who are out due to illness. Not saying other teams don't but its hard to play a consistent XI when the players aren't available for selection....
Completely agree with you, but this is where frustrations creep in with a lack of transfer activity and addressing areas in the last two seasons that should have been addressed. For example, back up for Saka/someone to challenge him, back up for Odegaard, a proper Partey/Xhaka replacement.
@@TTTGMediadon't say that otherwise we will have to admit we have wasted 105 m for that money we could have got isak + winger and the midfielder better than rice
While it's true, we did also play good football last season - particularly the second half - with Rice in that role. I think it's deeper than a single player. My guess is there's specific instruction making us play this way.
Arsenal have structural issues a striker can’t solve. We just don’t create nothing for a striker penalty. We’re way too slow in transition. Takes 6 passes to get down the pitch.
@antoniusdesir5585 maybe we play this way because the team know we don't have someone upfront to create for? Not making the right runs etc? If you think a striker doesn't drastically help us, you'll be happy watching us continue to fail.
@@deeray4637 once upon a time we had Auba up front and our chance creation was still poor. Structural issues and needing a striker, both things can be true.
@@tashd.a4190 it has only become an issue this season though, as last season after the dubai trip, we were flying, scored 91 goals, and with a striker probably would've gotten 100.
@@deeray4637 first half of last season it was an issue though and we've just reverted back to type. I don't think we've ever generated enough goalscoring chances under Arteta. At times, we're just clinical but that's different to chance creation.
Unfortunately too many supporters are brainwashed & cant see what’s happening & will say dumb 💩 like we didn’t play well as if that excuses the corruption.
It’s probably just all coincidence and incompetence on the part of the refs. Even though there is a very clear and obvious pattern, it’s probably nothing.
Lee is correct- we are playing boring regimental sideways and backwards football. This is clearly tactical direction on how we should be playing by the management as it is happening almost week in week out now for much of the game.
I agree with you but only partly. Our pace of play is so slow and across the pitch - U shaped tactics - that we make it very easy for teams to do this against us.
Arsenal fourever podcast bingo : [] Jordan’s mrs walks in the room [] Lee grits his teeth on a rant [] Turkish mentions the previous transfer window [] James forgets to turn his salt lamp on [] Lee makes a mistake on a players name
Turkish is right - all comes down to a thin squad that even Mikel has admitted to - the question is why have we sat back and ignored the obvious areas. We are slowly ruining player like Rice and Califiori
The reality is Arsenal has a record of being a shadow of herself since the passing of the Invincibles. Though VAR and the ref shady officiating has caused us but our winning mentality especially against mediocres sides is highly questionable.
You are a very good fan, let them play better and stop victimising themselves in every football game thinking that the refs are against them, if Assna went on to win 3 or 4 goals against Brighton, they won’t be talking about that incident, they weren’t playing well enough to win that game, they don’t deserve to win it simple !!
Lee said VAR got back on track in the Liverpool v United game. - Didn't review a blatant elbow from Nunez which should've resulted in a straight red - Didn't review Van Dijk handball which was the exact same as De Ligt's - Also not VAR related but Garnacho was flagged offside when he was 3 yards onside
You can't really hide behind referees and VAR when your team doesn't create and produce. 46 crosses and sideways passes are NOT creation value, 128 touches in opponents box and this whole system of "not shooting until it's a tap from 2 yards" is NOT production value. Also, I think this dark farts thing is starting to annoy referees (not that you must please them with quick football), but wasting time on set pieces and throw ins and then complain that referees judge us harshly, might be something to take into consideration.
The season where we finished 4th I think or 5th we were like dogs High pressing intensity we attacked and scored almoosst every Game 3 or 2 goals in the first half so How a coach that made us play good is doing this I dont understand
Ex pros with no affiliation to Arsenal saying it’s not a pen & that they’ve never seen a pen given like that before tells me what i already know CORRUPTION is at play & the league is comprised. No way are these decisions coincidental also what’s happened to the delaying of a restart rule just evaporated into thin air didn’t it.
The amount of comments talking about Jordan’s opinion is mad. People need to understand we can’t all have the same opinion and that actually is key for a healthy conversation. Great show as usual guys!
I follow both Real Madrid and Arsenal every game. Madrid also haven't been that great this season, but they don't try to walk the ball into the goal. If they are central to goal, they take shots from 20-25 yards but Arsenal don't even try. Two seasons back though, Odegard was taking those shots. He even scored a brace against Newcastle.
Never compare these two teams. One is a machine built eternally to win titles. The other is a bit of a joke. The personnel at Madrid is immense. Fede Valverde alone is better than any Arsenal midfielder. Madrid has 3 players who have/will compete for the title of best player in the world. Arsenal? Two very different teams. In Madrid, you are OBLIGATED to win. Not Arsenal.
I get that Real has WC players but Arsenal possess great players without the WC status yet. But my point is to be more unpredictable, if you are in and around the box, go for it. Even in the Brentford game Partey did that and Jesus scored on the rebound, against low block teams especially, this can work at times.
I agree with Turkish. We're 6 days late. With the attacking crisis we're facing, we needed a striker or goal scoring winger as early as yesterday. If we don't sign any of these in the next week, Kroenke OUT.
The other 3 don't know the handball rule lol, his hand was by his side (natural position) and he's not the one who scores (immediately lead to a goal ) If you're gonna moan about the handball rule at least know it.
@ you don't know the rules pal. His arm is by his side (natural position) so not a handball, he doesn't score someone else does....... if joelinton scored it wouldn't have counted. Please learn the rules before you moan
Turkish 1:09:15: "What is it when you've seen it three time? Déjà-vu-vu!" Reminds me of one of my favourite footballing quotes "Jay-Jay Okocha, so good you have to say his name twice!" Love the pod keep up the good work boys!
No, completely the opposite, Lee starting by complaining about the ref exemplifies whats wrong with us as a team . We need to fix ourselves and stop blaming others.
@ but what do you not understand? If we have been wronged why would you not complain about the ref? Like who are we trying to impress??? Opposing fans are not going to think better of you and who cares
@@flamboyentpromotions3471yes but what you don’t understand is these things 100% contribute to negative results. Yes we have been poor at times BUT other factors play a major role
“All four of us will agree that [the pen] ain’t the reason we didn’t win that game” 😂😂😂 we were winning 1-0 and shut them down then they got a pen out of thin air and we drew 1-1. Not every title winner smashes teams, especially after a busy, injury filled period where they had 48 hours rest from another tough away game. You mugs, put the 1-0 in the bag and move on.
This is why a lot of Arsenal supporters are pissing me off we were 0-1 up at the point of the non pen being given so WTF are they talking about. This mindset is exactly why they’re able to get away with blatant corruption.
I think they should of said " we all agree we should of had the ability to win the game despite the penalty " but the reason we dropped 2 point was the penalty ! We can defend a 1-0 lead playing badly.
Arsenal are the only team who's not allowed to win by 1 goal these days. Dont know why people say that nonsense. Liverpool have won many games by one goal
Boys I love the show, never miss an episode, can you please start uploading them on Spotify again? Because I like to listen when I’m driving or in the gym
Glad Jordan mentioned our inability to capitalise on Liverpool dropping points. We have had three key games to apply pressure on Liverpool recently: -Fulham away after the Merseyside derby postponed -Everton home after Liverpool drew to Fulham -Brighton to close gap to 3 points ahead of Liverpool Utd Failed to win them all. We do not have that ruthlessness. So whilst I am happy Liverpool drew to Utd, I'm equal parts annoyed.
Arsenal do not have the fire power to catch Liverpool. After this month the squad is gonna be stretched as arteta will have to go strong in pretty much every game. Can’t afford to rest many even in the champions league
It’s ironic this James guy talking about Gabriel getting he’s shirt pulled at every corner but not mentioning that our players are fouling the opposition keeper in every corner
Putting players on the keeper, and applying pressure, isn't a foul you twerp. The arsenal players don't have arms or hands on the keeper, they get bodies around the keeper, that isn't a foul. You just want approval and acknowledgement from rival fans with your comment.
@micah0190 he just wants likes and approval from rival fans. Putting players on the keeper to unsettle him, isn't a foul. No hands, feet, or arms are used to physically stop the keeper from getting to the ball, arsenal just put bodies around the keeper and use their strength to cause the keeper to flap at it.
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The fact that we’re still in 4 competitions those forward(s) need to be signed asap. If the club waits until the final week of Jan we might only be in 2 competitions at that point. ACT NOW! No excuses.
We will not win the semi final v Newcastle (over both legs), Manure will beat us and we will draw v Spurs and Villa. Season will unravel due to poor chronic recruitment.
If Eddie Howe plays his first choice midfield Newcastle will embarrass Arteta! Newcastle’s midfield play fast attacking football! Arsenals midfield is slow ponderous boring rubbish! Isak up front with that midfield behind him will tear Arsenal to shreds! Arteta has royally messed it up!
Turkish, you hit the nail on the head with that point. Arteta does not want a player with the type of character that’s going to unsettled the dressing room or that’s going to be a bad influence. Pep is also like that. But Pep was just lucky that at the beginning of his career he had a group of players that were good humble school kids. But let’s not forget that he got rid of Ronaldinho, Eto and Ibrahimović because of the arrogance and personality they had. I believe iss a school of thought from Barcelona. That’s why he said what he said about the academy in last press conference.
I like Jordan but why does he act like his opinion is the be-all and end-all, like he's the only one looking at a decision from an unbiased perspective. He has a habit of saying things like "It's a penalty" or "its not a penalty" really arrogantly when literally everyone else on the podcast and comments disagrees with him. You can have your opinion Jordan but please spare us the righteousness quirk. I don't know maybe it's his tone but its quite jarring
I think you are targeting Jourdan because other panelists have been as emphatic whenever they have strong views about a subject matter. Listen to James' opening remarks for an example, he was just as emphatic in his delivery too. The difference is that you share his views in this instance.
@@ronm4385 No I'm not targeting Jordan because he disagrees with me and I feel like I addressed that in my comment. If he genuinely believes that was a penalty then that's fine but don't butt into James while he's trying to make a point just to say that he disagrees with him.
@@NatedoggggEverybody on this panel tends to do that from time to time especially Lee and Turkish. This is a strong panel with strong independent views which is why I am personally drawn to this podcast. I just think singling out Jourdan is uncalled for. That's my observation anyway.
@@ronm4385 I don’t want Jordan to change his views even though I do feel like he is a contrarian just for the sake of being a contrarian. I just think he acts like he is “holier than thou” and doesn’t trust anyone else to have an unbiased opinion. Regardless, Jordan is a big boy, I’m sure he can take a little constructive criticism every now and then
I question Arteta’s vision for LCM. Our LCM is basically free from any creative responsibility and only there to crash the box + win duels hence placing more burden on Odegaard/Saka to create. Martinelli is not a wide playmaker. Is this really the best way to evolve side and get us over the line in terms of winning trophies?
Zinchenko is perfect for this position but Arteta is too coward to try new things. Even Saliba as target man ST could be a good solution against low block because he got technique speed and strenght.
13:35 if they're boring to you Jordan, maybe someone should replace him on the podcast? because inevitably you will have to discuss these things now and then
Things can change though before that run you conceded 8 goals in 3 games. I agree though these guys do get a bit too cocky and arrogant. Before Bournemouth game they all thought they'd win about 3 or 4-0 then ended up losing😂
Clash of heads can never be a foul. That's like saying he headbutted him on purpose which is a total nonsense in the context. :D I'm sick of that crap officiating that ruins the beautiful game.
Absolutely! If its not a clash of heads from a fair contest for the ball, it must be a headbutt, in which case why wasn't it a red card? Refs decision made no sense!
The thing that annoyed me and arteta mentioned it was how quick the var check was , remember a martinelli goal this season took 4 minutes to check and offside , always seems var are looking for issues against us then when u want var to help the check is over in seconds
This is a stupid point. An offside is always gonna take longer if it's tight because they have to find the right point and then draw the lines, when deciding if it's a foul there's only a couple of things to decide
I agree with Lee, we are too regimented. This is the main problem. Arteta is extraordinarily fixated on control- the exact reason we have dropped points vs Fulham, Everton, Brighton and Liverpool.
@@thelegendthatischels He literally did touch it before he touched Pedro. If you go round a keeper and he trips you, if he gets a toe nail on the ball first it is not given.
Their was contact it was a penalty. Arteta bottled it, playing Partey at right back when he has good defenders he can use. Subbing the young gun was criminal. Playing three defensive midfielders as well. Just a negative manager.
The strangest thing is we are literally at the same points as this time last season but other than the few goal fests, we have been flat but generally efficient. We need more spark than just SAKA and now he's out it's even more evident that although we are a very good team, we need a couple players to just really boost the attacking dynamism. The club have to make the effort to not just stay being on the cusp, and WIN something! Our no.10 needs to be providing more killer passes that contribute to assists. It's a requirement now for whomever it is.
I get Jordan’s point with regards to the penalty but I’m a United fan and I don’t think it was a pen. If it happened anywhere else on the pitch, it would have been a dropped ball
CALIFIORI was one of our best player in that game.. stop being emotional and reactionary.. Marino is not up to the temp of this league as yet, will he ever get there, time will tell..
@deeray4637 he flicked it up baited him in and headed past him. He gets the first touch and heads it on before Saliba for some reason tried to win a ball he was never winning there.
@ArronVallely24 You obviously haven't watched the replays have you? Saliba has touched the ball, so he hasn't flicked it past him, he has tried to do that, but saliba getting a touch on the ball means it's literally nothing more than a clash of heads. Please go and watch the replays that show this.
@@deeray4637 I've seen every angle you've seen trust me. The ball brushes off Salibas hair stop clutching at straws and that was only because Pedro got to the ball and flicked it past him like I already said.
@ArronVallely24 so now because the ball only brushes salibas head, it means it didn't make contact with saliba? Lol. Contact on the ball is contact on the ball. If this was a penalty, explain how kulusevski clattering Gordon wasn't?
Something else that goes under the radar in terms of what's changed with us is no Zinchenko in the team. When he was playing the last 2 seasons we were so much more attacking, he was able to provide forward passes and gave us some control in the midfield. Sure he makes mistakes defensively but so does Trent. What these players offer offensively is more valuable to me
Players are also human. We bring their high wages to this conversation but they get tired. Merino was exhausted at the end of this match. Like how money can't buy you happiness it can't also buy your way out of fatigue. We talk about recruitment but you can only buy so many players. For RB we had Timber, White and Tomiyasu. White and Tomi injured and Timber suspended. Now can you blame recuitment here? We draw a match we feel it's end of the world. Let's not overreact to every Draw and defeat. We didn't play well period. Refs have been officiating us harshly is quite evident. Let's keep our chin up and support the team. Liverpool drew to Man Utd Chelsea lost to Ipswich sides who are not playing well but our team Arsenal has to beat all teams handsomely. Do we think this league is a joke?
@turkish- not many fans get to ride the premier league title challengers roller coaster… We’ve been riding this roller coaster now for 2 and a half years straight (which is testament of how well the squad is doing). Chelsea only rode the league title roller coaster for about 3 weeks this season and then had to get off. We just need to stay in touching distance until the final 8 games.
I can’t believe that a midfield with £105 million Rice is inferior to a Partey, Xhaka, Odegaard midfield. That 2022/23 midfield was so boss we dominated nearly every midfield.
You cant believe.. bwahahahaaaaaaa🤣😂🤣😂 because some of you fanboys are to emotional and reactionary.. I bet you were one of the ones asking for Partey out at the start of the season.. now here's some perspective for you.. Jorginho is too old and slow, and Marino is not up to the pace of the game.. so not even a 1mil rice could fix it..oh I know you gonna tell me he score a couple of goals already but if it was just about Goals, Niklas Bendtner would still be playing for us.. Now we took care of the midfield conundrum.. where is Tomiyasu and you fans favourite inverted expert Zinchenko.. Havertz was sick, so whom was gonna come off the bench.. remember we still fell short with that 22/23 midfield..
The talk about Neto just reminded me that on top of all the needs we have in this transfer window and next, we will need to get a number two goalkeeper at some point. How many gk have we gone through since Arteta has gotten here!?
James sitting on his hands knowing Partey is the best midfielder at the club and Jorginho and Merino continue to cost us points but because he dislikes Partey and has a strange affinity for them he never calls it out only calls it out if it’s Thomas Partey. If Partey played like Jorginho him and the other fanboys would be hounding him packing his bags but the shameless vice captain chels gets a pass. Look how excited he got at Partey getting stick for the throw in, in our own half with 15 seconds to go, now had we conceded there from that shy James would be loving it as its a reason to get on to Partey. Fans like him deserve everything they are getting, GOOD!
When are they going to discuss the fact that we play poorly anytime partey is not in d 6 role. Partey makes the whole team tick but James aways avoid d topic
the handball rule is from hand to the shirt sleeve. The ball come of the top of Joelinton arms above the sleeve line. its not handball where u agree with the rules are not its a goal. Saliba makes contact with pedro its a pen. if the ball was lifted over a players leg and the ball was flicked onto his leg then over and he clips the man its a pen. Because its head instead of feet doesnt make a difference. FYI i am an arsenal fan
Jordan needs a 5 game ban after this performance
Nope he’s just not making excuses and trying to make himself cope which this fanbase does constantly, it’s a sickness.
Why?
Jordan was absolutely spot on
cry more loser. stop blaming others for the players faults
@@CHUKS300 bro our fans want to deflect so hard
"The quality of player will always catch up to you"
100% James. Great quote. Arteta is good at coaching a system, but it you dont have the quality of player, it will catch up to you.
the money we have spent the quality should be there. Plenty of flops that have been overlooked
What evidence do you have that he's good at coaching a system, exactly
@@CiciColino umm the fact that he finished on 89 points with a mediocre squad.
@@jimmybuffet5836That’s arguable. £700m over 5 years while a whole squad has needed overturning isn’t much in today’s market.
Jordan "I don't talk about refs cos it's boring
Jordan "proceeds to talk about refs for the rest of the pod"
Lee is completely right about regimental football -- it's killing Arsenal and killing the game.
People rave about guardiola, but he has destroyed football with his systems. His acolytes like Maresca and arteta are doing even more damage.
What do you expect when half our team is out
@@l...m9415 we had no major injuries last year. What’s the excuse for that?
@@boshankers12 I agree completely!
@@l...m9415people like are the reason we haven’t won a major trophy since I was in primary school
Jordan defends the refs more than Robbie defends the club’s transfer policy
He's just annoying for the sake of it
Don’t compare him to rob miles apart rob is clueless and chasing a pound note
Robbie probably gets Arsenal cheques Jordan probably gets PL cheques
@Arsenal_davidkingSo Jordan is just daft?
If Merion puts his chance away, we wouldn't be here complaining. If Martinelli put 10% more effort into his game, maybe things will he different. If we had quality attackers, we wouldn't be here comolaining.
The player that Turkish was referencing in regards to the “seal dribble” was called Kerlon. He’s a Brazilian and it was his signature move
Yep I remember in the mid 2000's all my man united mates said they were getting the next Ronaldinho. Didn't work out that way and he turned them down for Inter Milan anyway 😂
Turkish makes a fantastic point.
The big game changing goal scoring players we need usually come with big egos.
Can Arteta manage big egos?
I’m not so sure he can.
So….is that an impediment to getting big name players…?
Is this why we haven’t got the big name players we need to raise our level significantly?
Interesting thought
Arteta likes ‘nice guys’ odegaard, Saka, Rice, Saliba etc all very nice and humble. Good players, but nice guys on and off the pitch.
He can’t manage them see Auba situation he needs a younger less experienced type player or happy get along type unfortunately.
@@tris87don16Auba who had two jobs,score goals and captain the team. He and Lacca did neither and he even came late for a North London Derby...lol.... your claim is just super wild 😂😂
@@trentmadagua215 that is how big big players role - Vini is petulant cos he is that guy - he will produce despite
@@ZiggyWay another example of an idiot who almost cost his team 3 points against Valencia
It’s NOT irrelevant that this decision will never be given again. If it was a one-off ok, there’s too many occasions of this happening. Why do we have to work twice as hard as other teams to get results? It’s not fair and is gonna cost us the title this year.
stopped taking Jordans opinion seriously when he said he missed our return to CL knockout stages to watch Netflix, guy aint an arsenal fan
Really I’m a Man Utd fan and if that was one of our fans he would get a slap across his head and a 12 month ban on discussing the club
The guy don’t even watch the games just highlights 90% of the time
Spot on. Just a mug trying to get some fame on the back of AFTV
But…Arsenal is Netflix FC. See you next season
There's more to life than football
I’ve never seen a manager who changes philosophy so often. One season he’s klopp, the next he’s guardiola and this time he’s a poor version of Chelsea’s mourinho. And none of them involve a proper striker.
And all of them involve us getting close but never getting over the line. Tired of it now.
@ ask yourself this. Why has the spending at Arsenal stopped once were a dead cert for top 4? The owners want sustainability at Arsenal, they don’t care about success.
More like Moyesiah than anyone else. Merino is basically his Fellaini, limited on ball, does a defensive shift, physical presence of some kind and is a nuisance in the box.
Arteta likes a set piece, just like Moyes & Pulis
Stark & dark contrast to Wengerball.
@@NI-ld2iuthat’s why confuses me the most. Our football in 22/23 was so exciting and successful. How has he morphed us into this hideous defensive side? Having a defense as good as we do gives you more right to go forward and attack. Just like it didn’t for Wenger all those years ago.
@boshankers12 haha FACTS!!
Merino is the epitome of Arteta. SAFE.
name a midfielder who look good playing alongside the donkey called declan rice...Bellingham foden philips Henderson
Merino is just slow, far from safe
He literally has no legs. Slooooooooooooow🐌⚽️🇪🇸
Every single corner you see players grabbing opponents right in front of the ref and it is never given as a foul.
Jordan is such a tryhard Hipster man, we all know a guy like him IRL, will just disagree to disagree. Laurie is a bit like that too from AFTV.
Great comment I totally agree with you
Laurie just yaps 😭 Jordan makes some valid points
Laurie is a clown get him off AFTV asap 😡🤬
These words perfectly describe him.
James every time he's asked what he wants by the waiter: "I want Kudus."
37:20 So we are complaining about rotating the squad now this season. Last season everyone was complaining that Arteta never rotates and he's playing these guys to death. We have more injuries by January than the entirety of last season of course the team is going to change, not to mention the players who are out due to illness. Not saying other teams don't but its hard to play a consistent XI when the players aren't available for selection....
Exactly. Three of our RBs are missing.
Now that's what I call well informed and opinion based on fact and context.
We needed better players and more attacking depth you fool
Completely agree with you, but this is where frustrations creep in with a lack of transfer activity and addressing areas in the last two seasons that should have been addressed. For example, back up for Saka/someone to challenge him, back up for Odegaard, a proper Partey/Xhaka replacement.
Agree - and these lot literally see - saw opinions weekly it’s pathetic. Contradiction podcast.
6:14 "I've never seen a guy stud someone in the face." That literally happened to Tomiyasu. Jordan proving he doesn't watch football once again.
I've already told everybody it's over coaching. Arteta doesn't let player express themselves
The players have nothing to express martinelli , Jesus are ass
I 100% agree, Arteta is not the coach to take us over the line
Which players aren't expressing themselves?
@@joeljoao7034 Facts...
Who on this team are the players with the quality to express themselves lol? We don't have those kind of players.
Jordan is PGMOL in disguise
Here’s a simple fact.
We play more entertaining football and score more goals with Partey playing the 6 / holding midfield role.
It’s so simple
@@TTTGMediadon't say that otherwise we will have to admit we have wasted 105 m for that money we could have got isak + winger and the midfielder better than rice
While it's true, we did also play good football last season - particularly the second half - with Rice in that role. I think it's deeper than a single player. My guess is there's specific instruction making us play this way.
@garrycotton7094 jorginho played at six and rice was allowed to run around and look busy
Jordan is PR merchant for PGMLO
His a disgrace
@@MichaelEtimPontianus cry more losers. arsenal are shite
No. He just likes to be different for the sake of being different.
pgmol*
If Saliba went down holding his head on the floor, he would’ve been a drop ball
Don't think so😂
Its a mistimed challenge! Its a penalty, just accept it!
@@GermanChickenwingHe's 100 right
@@GermanChickenwing 1 win and now all of a sudden you've found your voice in the aftv comments again lol 🤡
@@Freespeechmedia-r2xso konate on martinelli earlier this season was a penalty and should not have been overturned, right?
pedro should have gone off for a concussion test after falling to the ground
Exactly! Those are the rules
Brighton are not a very clean team
He got up to take the pen and I knew we’ve been bamboozled lol
The clubs transfer policy and refusal sign a top striker is a way bigger problem than the refs. Fact.
Arsenal have structural issues a striker can’t solve. We just don’t create nothing for a striker penalty. We’re way too slow in transition. Takes 6 passes to get down the pitch.
@antoniusdesir5585 maybe we play this way because the team know we don't have someone upfront to create for? Not making the right runs etc? If you think a striker doesn't drastically help us, you'll be happy watching us continue to fail.
@@deeray4637 once upon a time we had Auba up front and our chance creation was still poor. Structural issues and needing a striker, both things can be true.
@@tashd.a4190 it has only become an issue this season though, as last season after the dubai trip, we were flying, scored 91 goals, and with a striker probably would've gotten 100.
@@deeray4637 first half of last season it was an issue though and we've just reverted back to type.
I don't think we've ever generated enough goalscoring chances under Arteta.
At times, we're just clinical but that's different to chance creation.
Can we please start a petition for dubious calls against Arsenal. We have had by far the most dubious calls this season. I am sick of it.
Unfortunately too many supporters are brainwashed & cant see what’s happening & will say dumb 💩 like we didn’t play well as if that excuses the corruption.
It’s probably just all coincidence and incompetence on the part of the refs. Even though there is a very clear and obvious pattern, it’s probably nothing.
You lot literally assault man on corners and you have the gall to call foul play against you 😂 Arsenal fans are too funny
Might wanna check what happened to Gary O’Neil this and last season and you’ll realise they’re just bad refs. Wolves shafted more than anyone
@@camerondavies8442 We gotta link up with Gary and do a ting innit
Lee is correct- we are playing boring regimental sideways and backwards football. This is clearly tactical direction on how we should be playing by the management as it is happening almost week in week out now for much of the game.
What do you do when teams respect you and just sit back 90pct of the time now? We don't have the players to play well against low block. Simple as
I agree with you but only partly. Our pace of play is so slow and across the pitch - U shaped tactics - that we make it very easy for teams to do this against us.
Arsenal fourever podcast bingo :
[] Jordan’s mrs walks in the room
[] Lee grits his teeth on a rant
[] Turkish mentions the previous transfer window
[] James forgets to turn his salt lamp on
[] Lee makes a mistake on a players name
Turkish is right - all comes down to a thin squad that even Mikel has admitted to - the question is why have we sat back and ignored the obvious areas. We are slowly ruining player like Rice and Califiori
It’s funny how people were crying about buying another fullback and we didn’t get enough lol
Kerlon was the seal dribbler
The reality is Arsenal has a record of being a shadow of herself since the passing of the Invincibles.
Though VAR and the ref shady officiating has caused us but our winning mentality especially against mediocres sides is highly questionable.
You are a very good fan, let them play better and stop victimising themselves in every football game thinking that the refs are against them, if Assna went on to win 3 or 4 goals against Brighton, they won’t be talking about that incident, they weren’t playing well enough to win that game, they don’t deserve to win it simple !!
Lee said VAR got back on track in the Liverpool v United game.
- Didn't review a blatant elbow from Nunez which should've resulted in a straight red
- Didn't review Van Dijk handball which was the exact same as De Ligt's
- Also not VAR related but Garnacho was flagged offside when he was 3 yards onside
How about Houiland kicking the ball away what happened to that rule has it vanished now
You can't really hide behind referees and VAR when your team doesn't create and produce. 46 crosses and sideways passes are NOT creation value, 128 touches in opponents box and this whole system of "not shooting until it's a tap from 2 yards" is NOT production value.
Also, I think this dark farts thing is starting to annoy referees (not that you must please them with quick football), but wasting time on set pieces and throw ins and then complain that referees judge us harshly, might be something to take into consideration.
12:36 the Brazilian kerlon was the king of seal dribbling
To be honest James if we are spending 85m on 1 player surely it has to be Gyökeres much more needed than Kudus.
He doesn't want to leave mid season. Kudus would move in Jan
Jordan said what I’ve been thinking for a while now. Arteta is the Southgate of club football. The parallels are scary.
The season where we finished 4th I think or 5th we were like dogs High pressing intensity we attacked and scored almoosst every Game 3 or 2 goals in the first half so How a coach that made us play good is doing this I dont understand
the reaction of the brighton players tells you everything you need to know about the incident
Ex pros with no affiliation to Arsenal saying it’s not a pen & that they’ve never seen a pen given like that before tells me what i already know CORRUPTION is at play & the league is comprised. No way are these decisions coincidental also what’s happened to the delaying of a restart rule just evaporated into thin air didn’t it.
The amount of comments talking about Jordan’s opinion is mad. People need to understand we can’t all have the same opinion and that actually is key for a healthy conversation. Great show as usual guys!
I follow both Real Madrid and Arsenal every game. Madrid also haven't been that great this season, but they don't try to walk the ball into the goal. If they are central to goal, they take shots from 20-25 yards but Arsenal don't even try.
Two seasons back though, Odegard was taking those shots. He even scored a brace against Newcastle.
Never compare these two teams. One is a machine built eternally to win titles. The other is a bit of a joke. The personnel at Madrid is immense. Fede Valverde alone is better than any Arsenal midfielder. Madrid has 3 players who have/will compete for the title of best player in the world. Arsenal? Two very different teams. In Madrid, you are OBLIGATED to win. Not Arsenal.
One team has built in institutional support, the other team has to beat the entire footballing establishment
@@jivet3919i doubt it’s that deep.
I get that Real has WC players but Arsenal possess great players without the WC status yet.
But my point is to be more unpredictable, if you are in and around the box, go for it. Even in the Brentford game Partey did that and Jesus scored on the rebound, against low block teams especially, this can work at times.
One has 15 UCL titles while the other have ZERO!!!!The Difference is so huge
"Lube tea, goes anywhere" 😂 Lee you're a legend
I agree with Turkish. We're 6 days late. With the attacking crisis we're facing, we needed a striker or goal scoring winger as early as yesterday.
If we don't sign any of these in the next week, Kroenke OUT.
Thanks
Jordan doesn’t know about football, he just here to make outlandish points
The other 3 don't know the handball rule lol, his hand was by his side (natural position) and he's not the one who scores (immediately lead to a goal )
If you're gonna moan about the handball rule at least know it.
@@Bickle121 I've seen far less of handballs given as handballs. The refs are atrocious
@@deeray4637 They're when it's Arsenal
@ you don't know the rules pal.
His arm is by his side (natural position) so not a handball, he doesn't score someone else does....... if joelinton scored it wouldn't have counted.
Please learn the rules before you moan
This is the best of the AFTV members. Not delusional, realistic and hopeful. Respect!!
Jordon Out ❌
Curtis shaw In ✅
No way
Jordan is good you lot just don’t like when someone says something you don’t want to hear
Bro it’s the original set up? If you don’t like it bounce
If you're expecting all 4 to agree then that goes nowhere and gets stale for a podcast.
Naaaa Jordan to stay
Turkish 1:09:15: "What is it when you've seen it three time? Déjà-vu-vu!"
Reminds me of one of my favourite footballing quotes "Jay-Jay Okocha, so good you have to say his name twice!"
Love the pod keep up the good work boys!
Lee was so correct at the beginning and Jordan had a shocker. Both not surprising
No, completely the opposite, Lee starting by complaining about the ref exemplifies whats wrong with us as a team . We need to fix ourselves and stop blaming others.
@ but what do you not understand? If we have been wronged why would you not complain about the ref? Like who are we trying to impress??? Opposing fans are not going to think better of you and who cares
@ we werent wronged its a 50/50, moaning is a distraction, from the real problem.
@ its not about impressing anyone, what you don't understand is that we need to focus our energy on things we can control.
@@flamboyentpromotions3471yes but what you don’t understand is these things 100% contribute to negative results. Yes we have been poor at times BUT other factors play a major role
I’ve enjoyed the podcasts this season more than I have going to games, big up Turkish Jordan James and Lee
Watching the first 10 minutes and just wonder if Jordan is gonna call martinelli the flirter again 😂😂😂
23:56🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jordan is a g
At his age using nicknames continually are embarrassing
Quality pod. Had to stop my commute to suggest fancy dress:
Turkish as Gandalf
Lee as Golem
James a token samwise gamgee and Jordan as Gimli
“All four of us will agree that [the pen] ain’t the reason we didn’t win that game” 😂😂😂 we were winning 1-0 and shut them down then they got a pen out of thin air and we drew 1-1. Not every title winner smashes teams, especially after a busy, injury filled period where they had 48 hours rest from another tough away game. You mugs, put the 1-0 in the bag and move on.
This is why a lot of Arsenal supporters are pissing me off we were 0-1 up at the point of the non pen being given so WTF are they talking about. This mindset is exactly why they’re able to get away with blatant corruption.
I think they should of said " we all agree we should of had the ability to win the game despite the penalty " but the reason we dropped 2 point was the penalty ! We can defend a 1-0 lead playing badly.
"Not every title winner smashes teams" that's true but most title winners do end up winning titles, you know. Unlike Arsenal.
Arsenal are the only team who's not allowed to win by 1 goal these days. Dont know why people say that nonsense. Liverpool have won many games by one goal
@@Existence_Predicate did they score 2 when they won by 1?
Boys I love the show, never miss an episode, can you please start uploading them on Spotify again? Because I like to listen when I’m driving or in the gym
Glad Jordan mentioned our inability to capitalise on Liverpool dropping points.
We have had three key games to apply pressure on Liverpool recently:
-Fulham away after the Merseyside derby postponed
-Everton home after Liverpool drew to Fulham
-Brighton to close gap to 3 points ahead of Liverpool Utd
Failed to win them all. We do not have that ruthlessness.
So whilst I am happy Liverpool drew to Utd, I'm equal parts annoyed.
Arsenal do not have the fire power to catch Liverpool. After this month the squad is gonna be stretched as arteta will have to go strong in pretty much every game. Can’t afford to rest many even in the champions league
If we had won the Brighton game Liverpool would have won, they relaxed because they saw us drop points
@@flamboyentpromotions3471 that’s a fair point I said that to my mate earlier. If Liverpool needed to win yesterday I rekon they would have showed up:
@@flamboyentpromotions3471Respectfully, you absolutely do not know that
@@tvolution1 obviously, buy respectfully im just goin on the previous recent results between is an Liverpool
55:58 - The Neto discussion was comedy gold 🤣
It’s ironic this James guy talking about Gabriel getting he’s shirt pulled at every corner but not mentioning that our players are fouling the opposition keeper in every corner
Putting players on the keeper, and applying pressure, isn't a foul you twerp. The arsenal players don't have arms or hands on the keeper, they get bodies around the keeper, that isn't a foul. You just want approval and acknowledgement from rival fans with your comment.
Fouling how?
@micah0190 he just wants likes and approval from rival fans. Putting players on the keeper to unsettle him, isn't a foul. No hands, feet, or arms are used to physically stop the keeper from getting to the ball, arsenal just put bodies around the keeper and use their strength to cause the keeper to flap at it.
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Jordan’s refereeing opinions are ridiculous
He’s always going to defend the refs decision against Arsenal no matter how scandalous the decision is.
He's a contrarian
@ I know bro but sometimes it’s so annoying I felt to skip when he’s talking sometimes
@@izztv156 nahhhh no need to skip he's alright
We need to do a poll to get Jordan off the show
If this board or fanbase had any ambition artea would be sacked by now
Then hire Ten Hag, Graham Potter or Vieira?
@@MackieALTthose are the only managers in World football right? 😂😂
@MackieALT at least ten hag won trophies 🤡🤡🤡
@@MackieALT Iraola or Marco Silva.
The fact that we’re still in 4 competitions those forward(s) need to be signed asap. If the club waits until the final week of Jan we might only be in 2 competitions at that point. ACT NOW! No excuses.
We will not win the semi final v Newcastle (over both legs), Manure will beat us and we will draw v Spurs and Villa. Season will unravel due to poor chronic recruitment.
If Eddie Howe plays his first choice midfield Newcastle will embarrass Arteta!
Newcastle’s midfield play fast attacking football!
Arsenals midfield is slow ponderous boring rubbish!
Isak up front with that midfield behind him will tear Arsenal to shreds!
Arteta has royally messed it up!
Turkish, you hit the nail on the head with that point. Arteta does not want a player with the type of character that’s going to unsettled the dressing room or that’s going to be a bad influence. Pep is also like that. But Pep was just lucky that at the beginning of his career he had a group of players that were good humble school kids. But let’s not forget that he got rid of Ronaldinho, Eto and Ibrahimović because of the arrogance and personality they had.
I believe iss a school of thought from Barcelona. That’s why he said what he said about the academy in last press conference.
I like Jordan but why does he act like his opinion is the be-all and end-all, like he's the only one looking at a decision from an unbiased perspective. He has a habit of saying things like "It's a penalty" or "its not a penalty" really arrogantly when literally everyone else on the podcast and comments disagrees with him. You can have your opinion Jordan but please spare us the righteousness quirk. I don't know maybe it's his tone but its quite jarring
I think you are targeting Jourdan because other panelists have been as emphatic whenever they have strong views about a subject matter.
Listen to James' opening remarks for an example, he was just as emphatic in his delivery too. The difference is that you share his views in this instance.
@@ronm4385 No I'm not targeting Jordan because he disagrees with me and I feel like I addressed that in my comment.
If he genuinely believes that was a penalty then that's fine but don't butt into James while he's trying to make a point just to say that he disagrees with him.
@@NatedoggggEverybody on this panel tends to do that from time to time especially Lee and Turkish. This is a strong panel with strong independent views which is why I am personally drawn to this podcast.
I just think singling out Jourdan is uncalled for. That's my observation anyway.
@@ronm4385 I don’t want Jordan to change his views even though I do feel like he is a contrarian just for the sake of being a contrarian.
I just think he acts like he is “holier than thou” and doesn’t trust anyone else to have an unbiased opinion.
Regardless, Jordan is a big boy, I’m sure he can take a little constructive criticism every now and then
Was waiting for Jordan near the end of the show to start opening that box and putting whatever it is together during the show 😂
I think we’re all underwhelmed with merino if we’re honest with ourselves
Because Arteta tells him to play like Kai when he plays CM instead of a real box to box as he is
For the darts fancy dress, I don’t know about Lee but Turkish could go as Josh Kroenke and bring a ‘Be excited’ sign with him 😅
Lee and Turkish should go to the darts dressed and professor Charles Xavier and Wolverine from x men😂😂
God I hope they read this one out 😂
I question Arteta’s vision for LCM. Our LCM is basically free from any creative responsibility and only there to crash the box + win duels hence placing more burden on Odegaard/Saka to create. Martinelli is not a wide playmaker. Is this really the best way to evolve side and get us over the line in terms of winning trophies?
Zinchenko is perfect for this position but Arteta is too coward to try new things. Even Saliba as target man ST could be a good solution against low block because he got technique speed and strenght.
Needed this for my Monday morning at work. Hope my boss don't see this comment
Should dress up as Voldemort and Hagrid for darts event
I’m not being negative, just a realest. We’re going to struggle against Newcastle. Just not confident in how we’re playing or our squad.
We are going to beat them like nobody's business
@@Manlaw88not a chance. Newcastle will do you.
@@Manlaw88no excuses
Nobody thinks it'll be easy
Brighton simply showed they wanted more than us ,they fought for every ball fair play to them
13:35 if they're boring to you Jordan, maybe someone should replace him on the podcast? because inevitably you will have to discuss these things now and then
He needs replacing.
Only one answer for the darts - Turkish as Josh kronke and Lee as stan
Newcastle have conceded only two goals in 6 games and you think yous are putting 3or 4 past us 😂😂😂😂 okie dokie
Things can change though before that run you conceded 8 goals in 3 games. I agree though these guys do get a bit too cocky and arrogant. Before Bournemouth game they all thought they'd win about 3 or 4-0 then ended up losing😂
Just an out and out striker. Just a 9. No false, no play anywhere front 3, just a striker is all we need pls Mik. COYFG
Clash of heads can never be a foul. That's like saying he headbutted him on purpose which is a total nonsense in the context. :D I'm sick of that crap officiating that ruins the beautiful game.
Absolutely! If its not a clash of heads from a fair contest for the ball, it must be a headbutt, in which case why wasn't it a red card? Refs decision made no sense!
First time Jordan seems like a proper Arsenal fan with that T shirt behind him
The thing that annoyed me and arteta mentioned it was how quick the var check was , remember a martinelli goal this season took 4 minutes to check and offside , always seems var are looking for issues against us then when u want var to help the check is over in seconds
This is a stupid point.
An offside is always gonna take longer if it's tight because they have to find the right point and then draw the lines, when deciding if it's a foul there's only a couple of things to decide
The player who dribbled like a seal was called Kerlon if I’m not mistaken, played for Cruzeiro
Just wondering why yous have stopped posting the pod on Spotify
Deja Vu-Vu has absolutely done me in 😂 Can just imagine a million berets going flying after that comment 😂
I agree with Lee, we are too regimented. This is the main problem. Arteta is extraordinarily fixated on control- the exact reason we have dropped points vs Fulham, Everton, Brighton and Liverpool.
If we are relying on Nwaneri to be fit then we can give up hope for rest of season
Fact Saliba touched the ball first. By the letter of the law it's not a penalty.
He literally didn’t touch it first
Pedro got there first. Then it hit Saliba or deflected off him.
Saliba touched the ball last
@@thelegendthatischels He literally did touch it before he touched Pedro.
If you go round a keeper and he trips you, if he gets a toe nail on the ball first it is not given.
Shaky saliba should’ve cleared it
Lee: What's lube?
Me: What Arteta needs to get that slick football back
Their was contact it was a penalty. Arteta bottled it, playing Partey at right back when he has good defenders he can use. Subbing the young gun was criminal. Playing three defensive midfielders as well. Just a negative manager.
Nwaneri is injured. Who should play RB? They are all injured as well
Nwaneri is out for weeks with a muscle injury, so should nwaneri have stayed on with an injury?...
The strangest thing is we are literally at the same points as this time last season but other than the few goal fests, we have been flat but generally efficient. We need more spark than just SAKA and now he's out it's even more evident that although we are a very good team, we need a couple players to just really boost the attacking dynamism.
The club have to make the effort to not just stay being on the cusp, and WIN something!
Our no.10 needs to be providing more killer passes that contribute to assists. It's a requirement now for whomever it is.
I get Jordan’s point with regards to the penalty but I’m a United fan and I don’t think it was a pen. If it happened anywhere else on the pitch, it would have been a dropped ball
The seal dribbler was Kerlon, streets won’t forget that dribble!
merino and califori have proven to be bang average players
Califiori isnt average bro😂😂😂. Do you know what average is? Plus injuriee hamper your momentum as a player. He needs a run of games
CALIFIORI was one of our best player in that game.. stop being emotional and reactionary.. Marino is not up to the temp of this league as yet, will he ever get there, time will tell..
Merino is average, but Califiori is average, technically not being good before.
Merino is poor, but calafiori hasn't even been able to put a run of games together yet due to injury, and he has had some good performances
Also yes Newcastle are on Smoke right now seriously confidence is immense with them
Artetas lack of accountability is rubbing off on the fans and it's horrible. Pedro has done Saliba there and it's a stonewall penalty!
Done him how? By heading the ball against him?
@deeray4637 he flicked it up baited him in and headed past him. He gets the first touch and heads it on before Saliba for some reason tried to win a ball he was never winning there.
@ArronVallely24 You obviously haven't watched the replays have you? Saliba has touched the ball, so he hasn't flicked it past him, he has tried to do that, but saliba getting a touch on the ball means it's literally nothing more than a clash of heads. Please go and watch the replays that show this.
@@deeray4637 I've seen every angle you've seen trust me. The ball brushes off Salibas hair stop clutching at straws and that was only because Pedro got to the ball and flicked it past him like I already said.
@ArronVallely24 so now because the ball only brushes salibas head, it means it didn't make contact with saliba? Lol. Contact on the ball is contact on the ball. If this was a penalty, explain how kulusevski clattering Gordon wasn't?
Something else that goes under the radar in terms of what's changed with us is no Zinchenko in the team. When he was playing the last 2 seasons we were so much more attacking, he was able to provide forward passes and gave us some control in the midfield. Sure he makes mistakes defensively but so does Trent. What these players offer offensively is more valuable to me
Players are also human. We bring their high wages to this conversation but they get tired. Merino was exhausted at the end of this match. Like how money can't buy you happiness it can't also buy your way out of fatigue. We talk about recruitment but you can only buy so many players. For RB we had Timber, White and Tomiyasu. White and Tomi injured and Timber suspended. Now can you blame recuitment here? We draw a match we feel it's end of the world. Let's not overreact to every Draw and defeat. We didn't play well period. Refs have been officiating us harshly is quite evident. Let's keep our chin up and support the team. Liverpool drew to Man Utd Chelsea lost to Ipswich sides who are not playing well but our team Arsenal has to beat all teams handsomely. Do we think this league is a joke?
@turkish- not many fans get to ride the premier league title challengers roller coaster… We’ve been riding this roller coaster now for 2 and a half years straight (which is testament of how well the squad is doing). Chelsea only rode the league title roller coaster for about 3 weeks this season and then had to get off. We just need to stay in touching distance until the final 8 games.
I can’t believe that a midfield with £105 million Rice is inferior to a Partey, Xhaka, Odegaard midfield. That 2022/23 midfield was so boss we dominated nearly every midfield.
It’s what happens when you are limited with passing and touch as a midfielder
Tbf arteta making rice play in a position he’s not
So I think it’s more on the manager
You cant believe.. bwahahahaaaaaaa🤣😂🤣😂 because some of you fanboys are to emotional and reactionary.. I bet you were one of the ones asking for Partey out at the start of the season.. now here's some perspective for you.. Jorginho is too old and slow, and Marino is not up to the pace of the game.. so not even a 1mil rice could fix it..oh I know you gonna tell me he score a couple of goals already but if it was just about Goals, Niklas Bendtner would still be playing for us.. Now we took care of the midfield conundrum.. where is Tomiyasu and you fans favourite inverted expert Zinchenko.. Havertz was sick, so whom was gonna come off the bench.. remember we still fell short with that 22/23 midfield..
Miss that midfield❤
Arteta is not clueless but has not got the capacity to think outside the box to take us to the next level...
Kulu almost breaks Gordons nose in the box, not even a yellow given; a head collision is not a tackle Antony Taylor...shame on you
And solanke kneeing dubravka in the head?
Why would Kulus be a foul? He doesn't attempt a tackle, Gordon runs into his shoulder.
@@Bickle121 gordon isn't running 🤣
The talk about Neto just reminded me that on top of all the needs we have in this transfer window and next, we will need to get a number two goalkeeper at some point. How many gk have we gone through since Arteta has gotten here!?
James sitting on his hands knowing Partey is the best midfielder at the club and Jorginho and Merino continue to cost us points but because he dislikes Partey and has a strange affinity for them he never calls it out only calls it out if it’s Thomas Partey. If Partey played like Jorginho him and the other fanboys would be hounding him packing his bags but the shameless vice captain chels gets a pass. Look how excited he got at Partey getting stick for the throw in, in our own half with 15 seconds to go, now had we conceded there from that shy James would be loving it as its a reason to get on to Partey. Fans like him deserve everything they are getting, GOOD!
James is normally balanced but you do have a point with Jorginho as he does over hype and over praise him
Lol
You know why that is the over praising of Jorginho
@@tris87don16 yep I know exactly why.. none of this rubbish goes over my head
When are they going to discuss the fact that we play poorly anytime partey is not in d 6 role. Partey makes the whole team tick but James aways avoid d topic
the handball rule is from hand to the shirt sleeve. The ball come of the top of Joelinton arms above the sleeve line. its not handball where u agree with the rules are not its a goal. Saliba makes contact with pedro its a pen. if the ball was lifted over a players leg and the ball was flicked onto his leg then over and he clips the man its a pen. Because its head instead of feet doesnt make a difference. FYI i am an arsenal fan