London Winter Comic Con 2024 Chaos and disappointment for Doctor Who Fans seeing Ncuti Gatwa

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  • @portland-182
    @portland-182 Місяць тому +12

    "Con" has more than one meaning :(

  • @ShaunCryer-e2w
    @ShaunCryer-e2w Місяць тому +32

    That was a bit harsh, but in my day, nobody charged for autographs, they gave them willingly. I think these two=bit actors have a damn cheek. They should be grateful you're a fan of the crap they star in. I'd never pay for an autograph. Tom Baker gave me his for nothing. Twice.

    • @johnr8212
      @johnr8212 15 днів тому +2

      I had a photo taken with Liz Sladen she was lovely, no charge. She was happy to meet the fans. In my opinion people like her are real celebrities

    • @ShaunCryer-e2w
      @ShaunCryer-e2w 13 днів тому +1

      @@johnr8212 Pure class

  • @DoctorwholondonFanFilms
    @DoctorwholondonFanFilms Місяць тому +7

    I've met Jodie there 2 yrs ago and she was absolutely warm with each fan for photoshoot ( at £75 for a full TARDIS shoot ..less with a normal background)... I met her few months ago outside a theatre in London after her show, she came out and did photos and autographs for all of us who massed around her.. no big security... everyone behaved. Its all about whats in their hearst to begin with and fans pick up on that and reciprocate.. ( I was going to book a photoshoot with Gatwa, had a cosplay planned etc.. but few weeks ago decided not to...but just went to hang out with friends. and went home happy. and by the looks of it, i had a great escape from a shit-show ;-) ) - Mani

    • @16shogunelitegreen
      @16shogunelitegreen Місяць тому

      I was at Comic Con back in September and Jodie was one of the guests alongside her that played Yaz and Billie Piper. Billie was a sweetheart 😊 She was the only DW guest I met that day as she was the only one out of the three of them that mattered.

  • @speedstackingcaspian
    @speedstackingcaspian 21 день тому

    I also attended London Comic Con Winter this year. I funny enough predicted that Ncuti and Millie meet and greet would be another controversial downfall just like with Karen Gillan and Dolph Lundgren. I remember when I tried to get Dolph Lundgren's autograph while I booked him on entry to which I didn't successfully get his autograph but thankfully managed to get a photo with him at his photo op. I have recently finished up attending their London Comic Cons due to bad organisation and the trains in Kensington Olympia are not very good either. I will be sticking with Monopoly Events ran conventions from now on as they're much better when handling meet and greets, especially when it comes to the Diamond Weekend/Saturday/Sunday Passes.

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  18 днів тому +1

      Mate I wish I could have seen that was gonna be such a disaster I would not have bothered, agreed Monopoly are so much better at running things and so much more enjoyable 👍

  • @powerspyin2
    @powerspyin2 Місяць тому +6

    Showmasters screws up yet again. They never learn with the main guests (Karen Gillan being the exception as the staff managed it perfectly)

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +1

      I think that’s even worse that they have not learnt from their mistakes bloody awful, at least the Karen Gillan one went well 👍

  • @jamiemartin7649
    @jamiemartin7649 Місяць тому +1

    I heard they had a pretty big balls up with Joseph Quinn a couple years back.
    I’ve been to many cons since I was a kid, mainly showmasters, and I’ve never seen or heard of them doing that whole “keep your hands in front of you etc” thing for a guest. I got a pic with Michael Sheen and they didn’t do anything like that. Was it actually one of the showmasters Crew or was it someone who was with her like a manager or something?
    When you mentioned about the PA system it made me think, why don’t they use that more? I didn’t even know there was one until they announced Ncuti at the last one in July, they did it live for the whole building to hear. So why don’t they use it more often to announce phpto batches or something?

  • @kiffer85
    @kiffer85 Місяць тому +2

    I do find a lot of times their photoshoots are chaos if you meet someone big. When I meet Jason Mamoa there i'm sure what appeared to be his agent came out to try and sort the queue out. As for coming the next day as you sort of mentioned, its not always easy. For instance if I have to travel to London, I can normally go stright there, but a lot of weekends the line has been closed for engineering works, which means I would have to get a bus replacement, and that can add hours to the journey

  • @RichArd-vc5jp
    @RichArd-vc5jp Місяць тому +10

    Just a 'grab the money and run' excercise by the sound of it

  • @brewster_4
    @brewster_4 Місяць тому +14

    Apparently, there was an incident involving Millie Gibson being sexually harassed at the con. I'm assuming after it the people in charge put more protections in for her during the photo opportunities.

    • @obadiahvondeath8048
      @obadiahvondeath8048 Місяць тому +3

      Poor Millie

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 Місяць тому +2

      Which con? Also sexual harassment???

    • @brewster_4
      @brewster_4 Місяць тому +2

      @@pferreira1983 The con being discussed in this video

    • @pferreira1983
      @pferreira1983 Місяць тому +1

      @@brewster_4 I should have been clearer, where has this info come from or is this some rumour that's been spreading through the Internet? I remember the same thing said about Jenna Coleman but never heard anything concrete.

    • @brewster_4
      @brewster_4 Місяць тому +1

      @@pferreira1983 This does seem to be a rumor. Neither the con nor Millie has come out and said anything about it. Many people who went to the con said they heard it there.

  • @MR_THINQ
    @MR_THINQ Місяць тому +2

    Basically they screwed up by selling far too many diamond passes - sheer greed fucked it all up.

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому

      In a nutshell mate, greed over fans it’s awful 👍

  • @paulbowler5345
    @paulbowler5345 Місяць тому +3

    Heard few people with similar stories about this convention. I've never been to a big con like this one prefer small local cons. They seem better run and a nicer atmosphere.

  • @DannyTR
    @DannyTR Місяць тому +10

    Hey, Millie Gibson diamond pass here, she was really friendly when I got her autograph but I could tell she was quite nervous, she spoke quite quickly and has clearly rehersed some lines, but was happy to give me a handshake. I think the strict rules about the photographs was to do with her anxiety about the whole thing.

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +5

      Hey Bud, Thanks for the feedback, that makes sense, let’s be honest there were a lot of folk wanting to meet her not surprised that things that can be overwhelming, hopefully the rules helped and that she will continue doing these and eventually be comfortable in the future 👍

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 Місяць тому

      Millie Gibson's a gem. I saw her behind the scenes of her first episode, and she gave off that vibe too. You can tell that she was nervous but really wanted to make a good impression in her first episode.
      That vibe lessened later on. By the time she did the promotion for the cinema release of the finale, you can tell her heart wasn't in it. She even made a subtle jab at Retarded Trash Dildo's terrible writing, too subtle for an idiot like him to pick up on it but I noticed.

    • @papalaz4444244
      @papalaz4444244 Місяць тому

      shite

    • @brewster_4
      @brewster_4 Місяць тому

      @@tomnorton4277 About your second paragraph: She really didn't

    • @tomnorton4277
      @tomnorton4277 Місяць тому

      @@brewster_4 She said that all the fans' questions would be answered before amending it and admitting that only some would be answered, which was clearly an intentional jab at RTD's idiotic writing for Ruby's history. It was subtle and professional but the jab was there.

  • @roryhazlie753
    @roryhazlie753 Місяць тому +4

    When I was there in 2015 it was the most disorganised place and total utter shambles I had ever been to.u didn’t know which guest was where they were on all different levels,lifts were a joke lines were utter mental,guests were in unairconditioned area and were sweating heavily,tickets were oversold big time for the con and also the shoots,the shoots were a joke over quickly like a production line and controlling being told how to stand quick hi photo and next person in,overrun times never run to schedule,it’s been running for years and they still can’t get it right.i can go the Edinburgh fringe and meet stars and get pics and autographs easier. The prices for the photos and autographs r an absolute joke. 95 85 quid.i had heard that when Peter capaldi was there people had booked to c him and he was overrunning and he said I am going to c everyone who has booked to see me which he did which was so nice of him also the green power ranger was there in 2015 god rest him he was like don’t pay attention to the signs if u want a pic with me and the rest of us u can

  • @geoffreytester3815
    @geoffreytester3815 Місяць тому +2

    Tbh I’m not a massive fan of doctor who as such - but I feel your pain
    I had picture with a guest he didn’t even bother to smile in the photo - which when you’ve paid money and they know your fan it’s very little to ask - it might be a model thing idk - it kinda got to me and the picture look awkward - I was very respectful as like yourself I’m not a hugger tbh
    I tend to do less conventions since that experience tbh

  • @stephenparkes
    @stephenparkes Місяць тому

    I believe that these events are run by Showmasters (think they have changed their name in teh last few years) and I have been to maney many events and they were always so poorly organised, you'd get guests being at the table for like 20 minutes but the priority was on photoshoots and there was no organisation when I went, all it would have taken would have been for the volunteers to have radios so they could actually communicate with people. It's a shame that they havent gotten any better after all these years

  • @SusanBell-dl5gr
    @SusanBell-dl5gr Місяць тому +3

    It is all about money now, fans really don't matter any more. Milking for every penny. It is such a shame.

  • @roswheadon
    @roswheadon Місяць тому +2

    Glad I didn't go! I thought about it because of Mr Sheen. I have had some good times at London Cons, but they were fun because they were an opportunity to meet up with friends and maybe pick up an autograph if the queues weren't too long. Sounds like they sold far too many slots for the time the star guests were available, or at least the time that they had paid to have them there.

  • @Paul_1971
    @Paul_1971 Місяць тому +1

    Used to go to Showmasters regularly, but hardly go now as prices for entry and guests have got ridiculous and just seems less organised with the amount of increased attendees - not enjoyable any more

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +1

      I haven’t been to one of their cons for years and never expected things to turn out the way they did will definitely steer clear in future, agreed not an enjoyable experience, which is what these things should be 👍

  • @thetasigmagallifreyan
    @thetasigmagallifreyan Місяць тому

    Also, people who have slagged off Season 1, they do seem keen on meeting Ncuti and Millie

    • @SpiderJack99
      @SpiderJack99 Місяць тому +1

      To be fair it's possible that they liked their characters but not the writing of the show.

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +2

      Now that is a shame I thought it did pretty decent, there were a few things I did not like but that happens with every show these days.

  • @MR_THINQ
    @MR_THINQ Місяць тому

    I’ve been there many times, it’s chaos especially at the summer con - 1000s of smelly nerds in one cramped hall with nowhere to sit and extortionately expensive junk food.
    Did that for 10 years queuing up for hours for autographs, been there done that - no thanks!

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому

      We geeks have got to go somewhere 🤣 don’t blame you, your right the food was super expensive the lack of communal seating is dreadful. I watched a couple of the panels to avoid seating on the floor 👍

  • @mervyn.j.boliver7251
    @mervyn.j.boliver7251 Місяць тому

    My self and my daughters have been to London several time s in the past and have not purchased Diamond passes. This time my one daughter purchased a Diamond pass and was lucky to have her picture taken with Ncuti but did not get his autograph but was told we could come back on the Sunday. We had travelled 2 hours to get to the venue.. The staff are great but Showmasters are really rubbish

  • @ScottKrissPittardMcAree
    @ScottKrissPittardMcAree Місяць тому +1

    I'm sorry you had a bad experience, showmasters can be a bit of a nightmare sometimes, that's why I rarely go to a Showmasters Event, I've come to notice the more expensive the guest, the less time you have with them, I also heard that Showmasters no longer give refunds, I personally prefer Monopoly too, just a random concern, I'm worried about the shelf behind you with the Magneto helmet, it looks weak from the weight of the books and about to snap, this is coming from experience 😂

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +2

      Thanks Buddy, definitely not going to one of their cons in the future, I really hope they do not screw me over, they did say at the con they would refund, we will see. Agreed Monopoly is spot on. The annoying thing with that book case it very knew, I intend to get two smaller ones as I thing the weight will be more manageable 👍

  • @JurassicRod
    @JurassicRod Місяць тому +17

    I'd be disappointed paying to see Ncuti Gatwa too.

    • @Simon-xc5oy
      @Simon-xc5oy Місяць тому +1

      You said it. Who would pay to see him? The vast majority of people hated his performance and the whole season, the audience views were the lowest ever across all mediums. I live for the day when I read about one of these appearances of people like him and no one turns up in numbers. As he is crap. And people dont like him.....

    • @ItsArcticVision
      @ItsArcticVision Місяць тому +1

      Hmmm yes the “vast majority” hated his performance. Totally explains why hundreds of people went to see him at comic con 😂

    • @JurassicRod
      @JurassicRod Місяць тому

      @@ItsArcticVision Well viewing figures were awful so a lot didn't like him. Hundreds isn't enough to carry a show.

    • @samdavid2431
      @samdavid2431 Місяць тому

      @@Simon-xc5oyI disagree. I thought he was brilliant.

    • @Simon-xc5oy
      @Simon-xc5oy Місяць тому +1

      @@samdavid2431 Heh, well good for you. Someone always does. Someone has to like him I suppose. I probably would have nothing against him if he was not Doctor Who, other than him being the usual predictable modern day wokie....

  • @pennywisethedancingclown2246
    @pennywisethedancingclown2246 Місяць тому +2

    This is why I've stopped supporting Showmasters. I only go to cons hosted by Monopoly Events.

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +1

      The Monopoly events are always spot on, I only went to this because Ncuti and Millie were here. Hopefully Monopoly can snap them up am sure they would also have a better experience as well.

  • @berliner0
    @berliner0 Місяць тому +1

    I’ve met Katy manning. Andrew cartmel young Amelia pond. Sophie slyvestor McCoy Michelle Gomez Colin baker. John barrow man Louise Jameson Paul Mccgan

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому

      Sweet, very Lucky, I am very early in my meeting people, I have only met Jodie, Mandip, John and now Millie 👍

  • @blastfromthepast-o1d
    @blastfromthepast-o1d Місяць тому +36

    If I'd paid money to meet Mr Gaytwa - never mind having a pic taken with him - I would be ashamed and embarrassed for the rest of my life.

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +11

      Each to their own, all the best

    • @JurassicRod
      @JurassicRod Місяць тому +5

      You and me both

    • @messystudios8505
      @messystudios8505 Місяць тому +3

      Im ashamed to have even read that comment. Homophobic POS.

    • @Schnoodles46
      @Schnoodles46 15 днів тому

      ​@@JurassicRodno one cares. Back to mammies basement boyo.

    • @alpertroncp2198
      @alpertroncp2198 4 дні тому

      Gatwa comes out to sign for free and take pictures outside the National Theatre after his play, free of charge. It’s the event organisers that charge - obviously he’s paid to appear but he won’t set the prices

  • @basedr1ver
    @basedr1ver Місяць тому

    London Cons have long been just that, a con. I've been to so many Comicons, MCM Expos, Hyperjapans, Destination Treks... They've all spiralled into complete money grabbing corpo-fests, with laughably incompetent organisation.
    The best conventions have always been those advertised via BBs/Forums and held in local hotel function rooms or community centers. One thing's for certain, if a convention's being held in London excel, or Birmingham/Manchester arena or the like, it's not gonna be a good time.

  • @jaritime1406
    @jaritime1406 Місяць тому +13

    Ncuti & Jodi were never Dr. Who when he died he died... or he's in a coma

    • @16shogunelitegreen
      @16shogunelitegreen Місяць тому

      I rather watch Ncuti Gatwa over Jodie Whittaker.

    • @jaritime1406
      @jaritime1406 Місяць тому

      @@16shogunelitegreen Rather stick my .... in a blender than watch either its not ENTERTAINMENT its The Message with poor story telling

  • @berliner0
    @berliner0 Місяць тому +1

    Awrsome picture

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +1

      Cheers buddy

  • @tomsaveryscotlandicproduct8505
    @tomsaveryscotlandicproduct8505 Місяць тому +5

    I wouldn't pay to see ncuti gatwa. You couldn't pay me to watch his dr who

  • @berliner0
    @berliner0 Місяць тому

    Love doctor who have met several people

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому +1

      Me too, hoping to meet more of the various cast members as they pop up in the comic con world.

    • @berliner0
      @berliner0 Місяць тому

      @ cheers I hope you do

  • @pferreira1983
    @pferreira1983 Місяць тому +4

    I'm sorry but you're not addressing the other big issue which is it shouldn't cost £95 to have a photo taken with Gatwa. Both of them were way too expensive, Gatwa should have at least cost the same amount as Gibson. 😆

  • @stark_harshly
    @stark_harshly Місяць тому

    Wanted to attend but funds prohibited. Guess I dodged a bullet!

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому

      You definitely dodged a bullet pal 👍

  • @peterdavison63
    @peterdavison63 5 днів тому

    Language Excused 👍

  • @SpiderJack99
    @SpiderJack99 Місяць тому

    Millie Gibson isn't a good actress, although she's young so there's plenty of time, but I respect her for going to the con since I heard she has anxiety or was at least had anxiety about going and being nice to everyone.

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому

      She did alright in DW, you are right she is still young and hopefully grows into a better Actress. Thanks for the information around her being anxious I can imagine having to be nice and bubbly all day being quite difficult and tiresome by the end.

  • @dtuk22
    @dtuk22 Місяць тому

    It's not called a Comic "Con" for nothing

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому

      🤣😂🤣 Brilliant 👍

  • @thetasigmagallifreyan
    @thetasigmagallifreyan Місяць тому

    Showmasters have always been an entire shit show. The clue is is the name Comic CON

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  Місяць тому

      😂🤣😂 yep will definitely try to avoid going.forward 👍

  • @Schnoodles46
    @Schnoodles46 15 днів тому

    Does this fella ever get to the point?!

    • @smerdp
      @smerdp  15 днів тому

      Oh you have got to tell the story and create the picture or it’s over in 30 seconds 😁 have a good day

  • @MR_THINQ
    @MR_THINQ Місяць тому

    Gatwa would have had to pay me for his autograph!

  • @michaelbeech5603
    @michaelbeech5603 Місяць тому +5

    Why on earth would you even want their autographs? Dr who is finished and at an all time ratings low thanks to them, i would not botger if they were free.

    • @brewster_4
      @brewster_4 Місяць тому +8

      I know this is hard to understand since you rarely leave your bubble, but some people actually like them in Doctor Who.

    • @michaelbeech5603
      @michaelbeech5603 Місяць тому +2

      @brewster_4 people is a bit of a stretch.

    • @ItsArcticVision
      @ItsArcticVision Місяць тому +2

      Ah yes 4 people... so I guess the hundreds of people who turned up to Comic-Con for them don’t exist 🤣 🤣

    • @michaelbeech5603
      @michaelbeech5603 Місяць тому

      @@ItsArcticVision yh they pull in the crowds er! Just like viewers.