Pax Dei Reveals Release Date & Pay To Win
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Pax Dei Release Date and pricing - playpaxdei.com...
@AshesOfOddity
/ @ashesofoddity
Follow Me On Twitch - / jayoddity
Patreon - www.patreon.co...
Discord - / discord
Twitter - / jayoddity
#MMO
when people stop buying unfinished games finished games will become the norm again. But, I believe we have a better chance of seeing a unicorn before that happens.
This is also a bad take because literally ALL of the very best games of the last 15 years started unfinished in early access. Literally all of them. So many incredible games that are obscenely drastically better than AAA. Yea, some of them suck, but many of them are also the greatest games ever made.
You should be 9999999x more worried because of it being an MMO than it being early access.
@@derpderpin1568 Since we are using the terms "literally ALL" I will point out that Baulders Gate 3 , Elden Ring, FF14, Resident Evil 4 and Hi Fi Rush among several others were not early access. For every BG3 there are several ATLAS that died in early access because of poor development that was only there to fleece the consumer for a quick cash grab, Its not a bad take to show that the consumer experience has been diminished by the explosion of early access unfinished products. its a statistical fact. While yes there are a lot of good games coming from them there are still more bad then good. Until the consumer stops the allowance of the unfinished market we will continue to see the degradation of the consumer experience. However, as stated before we have a better chance at seeing a unicorn because consumers will consume no matter the facial matter being given to them.
@@derpderpin1568 That the whole point of EA is they aren't a AAA game company to pay for the testers so they get the players to help fund the game early, they need to pay bills too and to help with development of a game until it's final release. TO many folks complain it's not finished, exact that why it's EA and not a finished release. Folks need to stop buying in thinking EA's are finished games. It explains all this on the store page, just like it list there will be a sub, I heard folks saying they didn't say anything about subs and it's right there in the store page desc of EA of what the model of the game is and that the founder packs are you helping fun the development of the game in exchange to play it early during development to help test ti.
After years of playing MMORPG's you want to play these games at least 1 year after launch. It's the best version of the game.
The launch is always fun ( for a few days ) until you start to run into the major issues.. bugs, exploits, lack of end game content etc etc..
$40 for a very very alpha MMO, and which is going to have subscription in future is ridiculous
Probably be $20-$25 a month to start.
Not really think of full game price
@@ScreaminNorman I would be ok if it was a buy to play MMO with no subscription, like New World or Guild Wars 2. But charging $40 to test a MMO despite it having a subscription price when it's released is not a good idea imho
And on top of that you will have to start over (even during the EA) for sure when they release the final 1.0 version. Which sucks. With how time consuming this game is. I played for 10 hours or so this weekend and barely managed to craft stuff, takes forever, glad I had a big clan to "steal" stuff from, but other than that I can't imagine playing this for 1.5 years or so and then have everything I've built and crafted deleted.
ever heard of ARK? game was alpha even at release and all throughout the many DLC. they even released reskinned version of ARK for same price point and it, unsurprisingly, had all the same bugs as the original version. i think paying $40 for EA isn't even a bad price.
i can't image paying $100 for a game with probably the worst combat I've seen in the genre
To be fair the testing that was out wasn't supposed to focus on combat. Maybe here it could be better? Bow seems good to since that's our go to 😅
It's early access and devs need money. If they were a AAA studio I would call BS but they aren't. Not a big deal even the monthly subscriptions. You dont like it then cancel the monthly. Too easy
@@theGPC2 Huh???? The whole point of alpha two was PVP and testing combat and it was complete shit. So many of you people are delusional if you think the combat is getting any better
@@xferone Games (MMOs especially) succeed or die based on combat. No future for PD atm.
@xferone oops
Anyone paying $100 for early access on this game needs to get their head examined.
😂😂😂. You know that people will too!!
People are paying to be beta testers 🤦. Pax Dei already has investors so the "I'm helping a indi dev" excuse is dumb.
Honestly, 40 euros as the lowest tier, AKA the entrance barrier is insane for early access as well.
I get the need for money, but they really need to lower the barrier of entry.
Oh, and if anyone gives 100 dollars to a project the developers still call Alpha, they need to think about their life choices.
@@ryuno2097 - It's not in beta yet. The game is still in alpha. The EA is still for alpha testing.
Didn't AoC have a $200+ buy in for it's alphas?
Pax Pay
Pay-dei
I was a developer for many years and from that perspective, I don't pay to do QA. I get paid for QA. This is far too unfinished to be asking this much coin for. The plots are alo very tiny so one is really limiting.
Definitely too early in development to be going EA especially for so much money and a founders pack and it feels like they're just trying to capitalize on the hype they got from their last alpha. This game needs multiple years more to cook
yeah, as if they knew how much succes A2 would have in January when they said EA would be spring '24 and we definitely knew it was after A2.
Quote from their website "The exact business model and pricing of Pax Dei after Early Access are not defined yet. After release, we plan to introduce a fee (subscription or similar) on top of the initial game purchase for ongoing access to the game and plots."
Lol.
Oh that's just the start of it. When they announced the "monetization" on their Discord, they also mentioned that they were considering a "Token"-System (like in WOW). Which is literally pay2win but with extra steps and plausible deniability for the devs. And they also said it would not be "free to play". But at the same time they wrote that there would be a "free demo version" with "limited access". Which... kinda is exactly what f2p is lmao.
@@MissElaineDumont Hahaha I didn’t even know about the token system! I blame WoW players for allowing monetization to get THIS shameless, THIS bad, THIS quickly. I’m paying a monthly subscription, buying a box copy expansion every year, and every day passing by players who bypass the visual progression of the game with their wallets by splashing out on in game cosmetics, AND literally buying gold/power with real money with the added step of a tOkEN, ALL AT ONCE? Only thing missing is gambling, and I won’t be surprised if they squeeze loot boxes in there somehow.
To us, who still remember the times when you could purchase a game once, and own it forever, this is outrageous. But what will become of the generation that is born into a time where shameless milking of your customers is considered a normal, if not “necessary” business practice?
@@NuriAlcoMovies Oh EVE Online has that system as well just forgot what they call it. And, coincidentally, according to themselves, some Developers on Pax Dei also worked on WOW and EVE. But, yeah, many in those communities don't just "allow" that to happen, they actually defend it.
As for loot boxes? I mean they did say there were going to be microtransactions. So I fully expect them selling some kind of loot boxes or, the newest thing, "Battlepasses". ON TOP of the monthly subscription fee, of course lol.
Hm. I would say it's "normal" according to the system at hand. Within the current economic system the only thing that matters, the sole goal is profit maximization. If a Company doesn't maximize their profits, even if they make the same amount every year, they are deemed unsuccessful. Hence why Microsoft is buying everything they can get their hands on and so is Disney. Because they know that controlling the biggest "shares" of the "market" means they will maximize their profit. And being a Monopoly is the ultimate profit-maximization. That goes for the so called "tripple A Industry" just as well as for smaller developers. Just look at all the shameless asset flips over the years.
@@MissElaineDumontgiving a limited time free demo of a game is not what free to play means lol
@@CrackCatWantsPat I never said "limited time" I said: "limited access". And that's exactly what they wrote. They even specified that more that people who play this... "Demo" do not have access to Plots and will have limited access in terms of Gameplay, not time. That IS F2P. If it actually were simply just limited by time so you can, for example, only play for a month before having to buy the game like other mmo's used to do in the past then, yes, it would indeed be just a Demo and not F2P.
But again: Neither I nor they ever said "limited time". Just "limited access".
You see the difference?
The art style looks very boring. The mmo's of the past had worlds that would make you dream, this has some random grass, mountains and trees but with no direction. It's like if an amateur decided to learn how to make a map in a graphics engine with default assets. Look at Ghost Of Tsushima to learn how to make a unique art direction.
I think this game is probably like a year away from EA still. This is really just a paid alpha, which is fine if you want to participate in it, but there are a lot of things missing from the game still.
i played Alpha 2 testing and in terms of crafting/gathering the game works great. Even fighting animals (deer/boars) for mats wasn't too bad. I don't do PVP so don't care about that, but do recognize that in Alpha 2 PVP was not good. But crafting/gathering? Yeah. That's the game I want and it's what I enjoyed. The building of Valheim with the crafting complexity of Final Fantasy 14. I find that really appealing. And when testing ended I seriously missed the game. Was it perfect? No Could have used more inventory slots and higher stack numbers.
crafting/gathering is extremely basic and found in like 100 other games.
My wallet will be closed until I see that this game will bring as a finished product. Aka main release. Combat/Animations still need a lot of work.
Condisering the devs also said everything will be wiped from the Alpha/Beta. Chopping wood/stone is miles away from New World as an example.
*Serious question:* Will bow be good later on? As someone who has been a Hunter/Ranger lover ever since my first MMO (Daoc) back in 2001.
For me, if it's just bad and only for range pulling, will be a dealbreaker for me and wallet 100% closed. What do you think I played in New World? Musket/Bow :D
This is looking worse than Minecraft. It may look amazing but having good GFX alone is not going to make people play and stay.
MC has bosses, something PD does not. And PvP....you drop everything everytime you die so enemies can you collect it.
Even if you have lots of mats but forced to re-craft entire gear once you die? Hard pass. We already got plenty of building/survival games. There has to be more than just building (and bad pvp design). A game called Hytale is in the works. Basicly Minecraft but with A LOT more content, more bosses, mobs, buildings, weapons, dungeons, caves, hidden treasures etc.
Content creators are making money of early access so why shouldn't they?
What? I'm not sure these are comparable. Also, no one said early access shouldn't exist
wasted my money on ashes of creation and i feel that 500 euro alpha key was very much not worth it since i dont think it will ever come out like star civ :P
Everyone talking bout the pricing, but no one talks about, that the dude in the footage is trying to chop a tree with a pickaxe the whole time (min. 06:03 - 06:30) ^^
I personally just wanna play it, support the devs and dive into the PxD world again. So yea I pre-ordered. Why not? It's a game I wanna play & support. Ppl paying thousands of $ for Star Citizen ships... So 99 bucks is really cheap!
I feel like pickaxe guy is every one in the comments.
Still better than New World lol
Not hard to be better then new world lol
Are you sure about that? lol
Its not Pay to win. This game is Pay to Test! Hehe. I might have in the past but not today.
this makes new world look good lmao, i guess ill wait until full release
new world was good, just managed by morons to this day
It’s hilarious to say a game isn’t even ready for EA as a consumer. Obvious money grab… DoA
I played the most recent Playtest and I'd argue the game isn't even ready for Beta testing let alone EA.
@@delindsay its ready for your wallets, for the low low price of $100
Buy-in to test for free and my progress will be wiped! Shutup and take my money /s
Pax Dei is turning out to be a joke. Million other sandbox MP crafting games to play. Combat is so bad right now too...definitely not ready for even EA.
This new title has the audacity to think it's worth this much with a future subscription planned as well that increases if you want more plots.. and gold/ token micro transactions are not off the table either according to their Q&A. They raised 23 million in 2021 and have like 80 employees.. the numbers aren't numbering if they want this much money so soon. 75% of a fully released AAA title but it's EA? Yea i'll pass.
Pricing on this early access is insanely high. If you read the fine print, on top of the initial fee, they will start charging a monthly sub, which is ridiculous for a game with no content. Warning to all who want to try this game, I got bored in the Wilderness Alpha after a couple of days. There is absolutely nothing to do besides very grindy, time consuming survival gathering, unbalanced crafting and very limited building on your tiny plot (there are only a couple of building sets). The combat needs a ton of work to even be playable. Don't buy this!
The guild I was in built a massive castle the size of a whole mountain. If you had a tiny plot it's because you chose to have a tiny plot, no one forced you to.
@@liamjonasscale I started the alpha with a small clan but they all left on the second day. I was stuck with a small plot because everyone decided it was an empty, pointless game. Wait, I can't even call it a game. It's an empty building simulator, even the sims has more to do. Go white-knight somewhere else
@@ErielleClary find a bigger guild? Or cry on your empty plot and get big mad on youtube
@@liamjonasscale LOL, Come tell me about it after you play it for a month or so. You can't defend this game, so you're obsessing on one small part of what I said about the plot size. The fact that the game, and I use the term loosely, is over priced for the total lack of content, was my main topic. I just bought Soulmask for $26.99. It's EA and a fully fleshed out game with tons to do; taming fighting companions and workers for your base that you can eventually control like mind control, taming pets, mounts and farm animals, detailed farming with crop plots, seeds, fertilizer, etc., POI's with progression upgrades, etc., npc's and npc camps with loot, a very detailed and in-depth crafting system, huge building system and you don't have to pay for plots, free alts. I'm only in my second day playing so I haven't even scratched the surface of what it contains. Compare that to PD and tell me it's worth the price. They even announced they would have no story line, no npc's, no content because they wanted it to be totally "Player Created Content" What a way to sell an empty game and make it sound legit. "Oh look! You, the players will make this game great! YOU will create your unique world in our blank-slate game." They had to say that to cover their butts when the bad press hits hard. I was waiting for this game forever and looking forward to it, but the Alpha was a huge let down.
No thanks
what game is it excatly ? chop wood, pick fruit, build a home & what... biggest guild takes all? yawn... again... for £100? ppl must be nuts.
It's a hard NO for me I'll pass even when the game actually comes out, there are so many cheaper, finished and better games out there this is so not worth it...
Why do we all know it is going to die fast but the devs are not?
We've been spoiled with recent EA games, This is going to dissappoint anyone who buys with those games in mind.
But also the last two Alphas have been awful, The combat is Dire and is going to be the games downfall.
Thats on top of the crafting is messy & Grindy & the world is large but so lacklustre.
Maybe 1.0 in 2 years time might turn it around
Stop pre ordering games. How can you give money to a company before you even seen the product? And when you get it it’s always a shambles cause they already have your money. They don’t care.
Considering the size of the plots, 40e for one is insane! And there will be server resets so your progression will be lost randomly. It's a shame, alpha 2 was promising for me.
Pax Dei isn't even ready for BETA Testing, let alone Early Access. I played the Alpha 2 and it was a joke. Sooooooo many hackers, white/ghost grass pop-in (that followed you), several areas completely unfinished and overall much of the Zone I was in looked like a game from 20 years ago.
Having to pay for land plots with real world money is insane. SWG had a fantastic land claiming / deed / city system years ago. I dont understand why they cannot do the similar thing.
I tested this game and I fear it has the potential to be similar to the "Ark" lag fest with landscapes littered with unfinished and abandoned builds! I also NEVER buy into an Early Access Alpha build and the Founder's packages are nothing but a ridiculous cash grab: There is NO WAY I am buying into this game in its current state and I foresee overwhelming negative reviews and loads of refunded games upon release. This title will most likely crash and burn! So sit back and wait and see how it evolves and avoid the QQ.
the game was dead to me after they announced it was sub based after early access, so I would love to watch this dumbsterfire burn
Commentary that lacks a little nuance :)
There are some very good games with a monthly subscription btw (and of course the current content of Pax Dei would absolutely not justify it). On the other hand, for once we don't have a gatcha dreck or an infamous copy of Korean mmo that all look the same, I don't understand the hatred around this one....
@@jean-francoisremy9792because it's in early access and they have a sub plan for a game that's still in development.
I wish I could get excited about this but, as others have said in the comments, this genre is exhausted and players have been burned too often to fall for yet another pay to test scheme. But that's not the core problem. The 90% toil for 10% fun equation killed the MMO long ago. It needs fresh ideas, not repackaged old ones. Many thanks for the update, Jay! 😜
Initially, my nose was a bit out of shape about paying for a game that is not finished and I didn’t like the idea of paying to help them test. Then, I sat down and looked at it from another angle. The talk is “early access”, I say “investor” and think it would have been a better approach. Crowd funding is something that folks understand. Then I reviewed what I pay per month for the games with a subscription. At $15/month x 6 months plus would get you at the top tier they outlined. Do I think that I would play for 6 months and enjoy it? Yes. I have played Alpha1 & 2. If this game is not your cup of tea, definitely don’t buy in. Or, if you are need to see more, don’t buy in. Understandable. My biggest concern is that they may have reduced the number of people willing test by tying it to dollars. I would rather they offered “investors” in game benefits as a thank-you and kept the next testing phase open to all.
They are founder packs, founder packs always been a way to support a game before release. Most of them allow you to play while in development. Folks need to stop thinking of this as a released game. You are paying pre-order for the finished game and get a few extra's for how much you want to spend. Don't want to play an unfinished game than don't pre-order and play.
Paying for extra plots not pay to win? I would disagree.. I tried one of the play test and the plots are rather small for how grindy is the game. Having more plots allow you to have more crafting/refining stations, allowing you to go faster? So if someone with a higher price version than me can go up to 2x or 4x faster.. I would say that is pay to win.
So everyone should be equal? That's not how the World works. Go tell a doctor he is pay to win then go back to your coffee shop job.
@@johnski4709 WTF with this comment 😂. First, a doctor did a lot of years of study and probably has a huge amount of loans so I wouldn't consider that pay to win. People play video games to get out of the real world, so if you create inequality inside your game, where people with more money can have an advantage over people that paid less, you already lose a lot of players.
Mixing the reality with video games... That's sad. Video games should be different and yes, I believe players should pay the same price and get the same content. You want to be better than other players? Do it in game and not with your wallet.
@@AlexcendreM "people with more money can have an advantage over people that paid less" Yes, and?
It’s getting wiped , so not really p2w.
Yes, it is. And they already said the subscription will be based on the number of plots you have next year when it goes live.
As much as I wanted to see Pax Dei do well, I'm now disappointed. Greed from investors destroys all potential in far too many games. Pax Dei isn't ready and even the 40$ package is too much for a early access left click game. Combat will need to be changed and more actually content needs to be added. I know this is sandbox, but this game is empty. But, time will tell all.
So investors shouldn't make money? They should take losses for your benefit?
@@johnski4709 Investors should invest enough to see the product finished. Pax Dei devs should have asked for more investors instead of putting out a joke and calling it a game in EA.
@@ErielleClary No, investors want to make money. This is not a love interest where you spend money for nothing. Investors want a return for their investment, not to break even nor just see it through. If the game is a "joke" then why would they be able to get more investors? Do not play, simple as that. No one is forcing you to spend money on this.
@@johnski4709 If they were to allow the creators to make a game that will hold population they will make more money. It's truly that simple. But instead of allowing time they push for the games to be released earlier than they should be, which not only is abusive to the developers forking 80+ hours a week, but also creates crap games that don't hold the clientele playing the games. Make your fan base happy and they will spend the money to support the games creators. A very simple and time tested strategy tossed to the way side for greed.
I personally think ....when you pay to get to a level of the game that may or may not be monetization on any level is a piss poor way of a title development ! I have played many games from different developers in many genre. Like New World.... folks got greedy instead of being inventive on how to make a repetitive money transaction. I would show the stuff first then possibly consider charging something just for the soul reason others are willing to pay for it as well.... Go down that road and ur like every other developer out there!.... CROOKED AS HELL. Now ask yourself are u willing to put that price tag on it! Man its like watching the gaming industry fall into some sort shit storm of money hawging! I know they been doing it for years already! Sorry Jay.... I like your coverage all the same....How are your little favorite humans doing ? Be well everyone! 😆
How is this "pay to win"? Stop throwing out terms that don't apply.
It's literally p2w.
More plots means more refining/crafting/storage and soon garden space.
It's $40 for a single plot.
You can pay $100 have have increased access space that equates to real time saved.
It's an hour to refine metal, one guy paying $100 so he can have 20 smelters going at once it's the definition of p2w.
@@Macphotographs There's room for that in 1 plot still. If you alone, you won't be filling all those anyway.
Pay2win + subs + real Money trade via token + ingameshop. And also how are those marketplaces gonna Work? Every where half finished hutts.. nah man maybe for 20€ Not for more. But No wonder people from eve online are making this. Plus outside of crafting its pretty mid.
Just to compare this EA to another. I just bought Soulmask, which is still in EA, and it's light years beyond Pax Dei. They have tons of fully fleshed out systems; you can capture and utilize helpers to do daily chores and fight with you; you can tame pets, mounts and farm animals; there's a complete farming system with farm plots, seeds and workers to tend them; a huge, open-world building system, very in depth and detailed crafting system, clans, tribes and alliances, and one of the best progression systems I've ever seen. This is only from my 2nd day of playing. I haven't scratched the surface of the map or dungeons, POI's, etc...of which there looks to be lots. This game only cost me $26.99. No tiny plots, your base can be huge at no extra cost. No extra cost for alts either.
Anyone who says:
"Im not opening my wallet for EA"
While at the same time complaining that "AAA is in a horrible state"
Should be ashamed
Support a passionate indie dev who is sacrificing $ for a better game.
Yes, more plots is somewhat p2w, but its petty mild.
We all paid $40 for New World which is arguably STILL in early access… you don’t want to play an early access game, don’t play..? Stop complaining about $40 it’s really not that much money guys, get a job :)
It's DOA to me. If it has a tip off subscription fee. That 💩 is unacceptable. Seems like a kinda lame game anyway.
Who makes an MMO without combat. 🔥 🗑️.
If it has no simp'scription fee. I'll probably check it out.
I will wait the official release for this game but the economic model is questionnable. You pay 40 dol for an alpha and then you have to pay a subscription ? What is the point ? They want to fear everyone before they give a chance to their game ?
Why there is always economic problems with these mmos ?
Too rich for my blood. I was looking forward to this game, especially after the New World boondoggle, but I'm gonna pass until AFTER launch AND when it goes on sale for at least HALF OFF.
who would pay 250 euros for a game that literally doesnt exist??? I m so fed up with this copium-like preorders. you pay 3 digits to play what? an alpha? why? 250 are too much for game! (I have paid 500 and played the a1 as well kekw)
You want to "win"? (Whatever that means in this game - I guess PvP?) Join a big clan. Solo and duos are not going to be winners in that regard and they will get the most benefit from the extra plots if they want to have all crafting and processing stations.
Mainframe is telling people if you're in a clan just buy the lowest tier because connected plots expand - each plot is bigger when connected - so generally a clan is going to have enough space with one plot per player.
It’s a no for me Jay… I’d rather play OSRS than experience Pax Dei combat. It’s horrendous
All they've shown so far looked boring AF.
Over 13,000 titles came out on Steam in 2023 alone, with 2024 numbers set to beat that record.
Why bother with something half-baked?
It doesn't seem like this will be a great game; it appears to be a mishmash of Unreal Engine Asset packs. Just by glancing through their screenshots, one can see designs that are centuries apart. For instance, there's a screenshot where a building in the background is made of clearly shaped stone blocks, while on the right side, there's a rough stone wall supporting an intricate wooden gazebo. These architectural styles are from different eras and shouldn't be in the same setting. It looks as though they've simply searched for old designs without considering the time periods they represent.
This looks like Conan Exiles, but with more emphasis on MMO and less content than CE, and while I don't know how much content that game released with, but it looks boring, unless all you want to do is build, and even then, you'll get more out of Conan Exiles for the price.
If you cannot afford the master, don’t buy it. I can so I did. Buy what you can afford or what you think it’s worth. I enjoy the game. You can still build a decent sized house and all the workbenches needed to craft in one plot. I just wanted 4 plots so I could build a miniature castle.
$50-130CAD? Plus a monthly sub? Hard pass. I can get Medieval Dynasty on sale for $30CAD, no monthly sub, no irl currency for plots and offline.
I sunk a lot of hours into the alpha and all I did was build. I didn't even explore, engage in combat or craft too much. I have no issue paying some money to be able to play it more to experience the rest of whats there currently. Everything to come after that over the next year is a free plus. I was honestly bummed when the alpha ended because I couldn't sink into the other systems in time. I gave a lot of feedback during the test too. But I like being in early in things so im tolerant to it and understand others either arent, or cant spare the money for something unfinished. There will be a good chunk of us who will do the deed for others and help build the game and it's a bummer to see others who dont really try anything out or experience it for themselves drag out people trying to build something cool. If you buy it and get burned thats one thing or if reviews are out and others are getting burned thats another. Lets stop being shitty to each other and devs.... Well unless its a developer that deserves the criticism.
It is not an early access game just access to the alpha version.
The game will remain in early access for at least 5 years. Asking for 40€ is cheeky. I haven't played it yet and their payment system and the product don't seem serious to me in their current state
Pax Dei does look very interesting but I dont buy early access nonsense. Far too many games released half baked in the last decade and im sick of it. The only company I will preorder from without hesitation is anything from software related.
Pax dead, many people will get deterred by the subscription including myself. They had me at one point and completely lost my support with recent news. Why would anyone pay this much for one plot of land?
There are enough early access games worth paying for, this one isn't. Period.
I've played all possible play versions and trust me, it never provided any goosebumps.
I ran away as fast as I could when the first tests were run and Asmongold came in and ruined the party.
Don't buy this game, it's just another PTW money grabber
I did the alpha's and I really didn't like the combat. It was terrible I know it's been improved but still it's not good. They called it a place holder I think. I won't spend on this until I see something worth my time.
so basically pax dei is gonna use the same strategy as " landmark" the game by everquest. and then years on they will cancel everything and not refund a single person...woot!!
so basically pax dei is gonna use the same strategy as " landmark" the game by everquest. and then years on they will cancel everything and not refund a single person...woot!!
Odd, a lot of EA games charge for them. So nothing special here to me. And definitely not P2W, since you don't get a gameplay advantage for the purchase.
Sounds like it should be in Beta, not EA.
early alpha more like. literally all there is is a basic building system lmao
This is gonna be a Wow killer. Wait you'll see....
100% doubt that, the combat is as boring as newworld
Won't have more then 5000 active after 8 months
@@michaelstewart2611 Given the track record of the internet and all of the games they said would be amazing, the fact that everyone is dumping on this game gives me hope. Whatever you guys say, I'm doing the opposite.
This expensive early acess makes no sens they say on there own webside this game is fully funded so money is not the problem . I wanted to try it out but i will not pay 40 euros for alpha that can swing its direction realy fast becouse its an Alpha
These are the numbers nine. They depict the price quoted in dollars. Dollars are the monetary unit used in a country called the United States of America.
Don't thank me.
if u play solo and only have 1 plot than yes its that bad because all the crafting stations, coal makers, kilms, and the boxes with small storage spaces and shit stack sizes yeah it bad
the audacity asking for 40 and 100 usd for trash game LOL
Don't forget the monthly subscription on top of that
yes if you are 40 you have 40 building areas but if you all have the most expensive edition you have 180 building areas.
So tired of everyone whining about p2w you can buy more plots ingame for ingame currency. Yet money grab games from china or korea you throw youre money at em
What I dont understand is, Pax Dei looks like a crappier version of New World. And people don't seem to like New World. So why are people excited about Pax Dei? I'm really confused.
In New World I'm Lvl 200 in every profession. Imo Pax Dei looks better, but combat is effectively non-existent atm. I stopped playing New World because there is no support for clans/guilds/companies in game; your community is only in Discord.
Pax Dei is a social sandbox where players do everything from building all the structures - including taverns, stores and guild halls - to running the economy. in Pax Dei you don't buy a house and there are no NPCs.
I actually think Pax Dei is more like Conan Exiles (which I liked a lot) but Pax Dei looks way better.
The only competition I see for Pax Dei is Ashes of Creation - I'll be playing AoC Alpha 2 (despite being alpha is probably 2 years ahead of Pax Dei - but way more complicated subsystems) in October.
Reminds me how Wayfinder was way more developed and it was changed along the way from an online game to a single player so... This game reeks of scam.
animations look like shit too. After buying dragons dogma 2 and being disappointed, im waiting for a full release if they make it that far.
pay 2 win = you can buy strong impacting items with real money
pay 2 win is not buying cosmetics
learn the differences boi xD
Don't care. Building a cute little hut on a river crossing and giving away swords to new players for free. Try and stop me.
Hear me out…I don’t mind pay 2 win as long as the pay 2 win item gear whatever is still possible to get without using real money.
All these early access survival craft game trailers are the same. Just a bunch of people running around doing nothing.
I'll rather put my money & time with Once Human over Pax Dei at this point, even if it a bit longer of a wait.
You all care way too much about these unreleased games. Everyone builds up a ton of hype for them for no good reason, then play them for a few hours and say they are dead on arrival.
it literally just released as early access title, lmao you are delusional
Early access games are almost always in alpha or beta stages, which isn't considered to be released. The game is still under heavy development and there will be significant changes to come.
Ashes Channel - ua-cam.com/channels/nq-1mtLfwa84xvSpYDxmxQ.html
Thank you Jay Oddity for this awesome video. I agree with you 100%. I just found out about Pax Dei earlier today and have been stoked to get my hands on it even in EA as I have been playing Soulmask in EA and loving it, and before that I was playing Enshrouded, Palworld, and V Rising which were all in EA and have loved those games, so I am no stranger to purchasing and playing games in EA and the state I expect the game to be in. I have also been spoiled by paying $26 to $29 for EA games. You are not the first content creator here on YT that have played the alpha of Pax Dei and found it lacking and not ready for prime time EA. The prices they are asking for EA in my opinion is total deal breaker for me and I will wait until full release. Thank you for bringing the pricing and their greedy 3-tier EA starter options to my attention. That 3 tier price option is a major turn off for me that makes them look greedy and out of touch.
I agree! I also played all those games and am playing Soulmask now. Loving it! It's light years ahead of Pax Dei.
They want you to pay and become their game tester its ridiculous this is a big problem in the industry!
Pay to Win? it comes with nothing that could even be considered pay to win - F review
This sounds like scam!
Multiple character slots are sometimes exploited to their highest extend in these games. In ARK people would get multiple accounts just so they have support characters they can place around, sometimes as infinite storage or for PvP reasons. That and selling in-game area for real money instead of a normal claim system are both red flags.
thats why they are selling them, its literally pay2win. only gas lighters who support scams are pretending otherwise.
I love this game even as it is it was big fun in 2nd alpha test and I actually miss it. BTW I've been playing games for past 40 years !
has average ue5 graphics, nothing else. just basic building system
Idk "more plots" would only really be more applicable for leaders if clans.
whats up w ur clickbait titles dude it's every. single. one. lmao
You don't need 4 lots... build higher, it's not pay to win.
Guess I'll just buy the new wow expansion instead of this p2w crap
bro needs some sleep
I always look like this, bad birth RNG sadly
pax pay dei to win
Thank you for bringing up this issue. These days you can’t trust like that anymore.
It's ex eve online devs. I trust them.
wait what really? but they dont even have combat in the game...
Everytime I see those comedic early access alphas I look back and remember that the best MMO ever made, Dark age of Camelot was developed in 18 months with a 2.5 million USD budget and 25 developers. then I shut my wallet tight.
The world move forward, you obviously not. Developing a MMO is today much much more work and for that much more expensive.
realy low low price 40e? since then for game 40e are low :D
Pay $60-$100 on a game I enjoy is worth it. Getting a game for free and subbing for $15/mo, if I live the game, sure.
But pay $100 to help them test a game and then have to pay a monthly fee on top of that? No thanks.
That monthly fee is on release, not on early access. You pay that much for a Founder pack because you didn't pay a fee for 1+ years (until when the full release is). MMO servers cost a lot of money and they need to be paid, here by a higher price.