@@brianlitz5102 If it was, every aircraft channel would know about it. The two engine 747 has been discussed in depth in many places and there's no factual information about it going ahead anywhere. If it was, Boeing would have released information before now, 2018 is 6 years ago and Boeing need every good news story they can get right now.
@@Danger_mouse your right, I just imagined it for all those years when I was flying multiple times per week out of Tucson. Must have been all the drugs I was taking!
Not gonna happen. Boeing will just need to redesign the 777 bigger to use the RR Ultrafan engine. No need to bring back the Jumbo 747 as it would require a complete overhaul of its control surfaces and gut all of its hydraulic control lines to fly-by-wire as the latest 777 & 787 models. Not gonna happen.
The 777X is filling the gap between the classic 777 and 747. The question is how much space there would remain for a new 747 class aircraft. Anyway, the manufacturing facilities including 3rd parties is already mostly gone. At this point setting up manufacturing for a new 747 variant would be almost like doing it for an entirely new aircraft, so why not going all out for a new aircraft. Or a further extended 747XX or 747XXX ;-) Given Boeing's current problems I'd expect them to care more about future profitability than adventures, after all the 747-8i didn't sell too well.
Boeing got itself in trouble re-engineering the 737 with bigger engines to make the 737max. The 737 airframe and flight characteristics were all wrong, and unable to handle the larger engines, and the 737max has been a commercial disaster. That should be a lesson for Boeing. Forget the 747, it's gone and passed.
Im an Engineer for 747400....the engine diameter will help but the only difference will be to get a new gearbox for the engine to improve and save fuel.
The design modifications to change from a quad redundancy to a dual redundancy system would be insane. Might as well just design a completely new aircraft, that is neither a 747 nor a 777.
Time marches on and the 747 has had its day. It was a grand time but the Queen of the Skys day is over. I loved flying 747's. They were an experience like no other. They were so beautiful no matter the livery.
I just walked the Everett final assembly last Friday…there’s no “empty production line” with 777 and 767 military variants like the KC-46. It’s bullshit.
Unlikely, the 747-8 won't have the twin engine variant as the 777x and the dreamliner have longer range capabilities with better fuel efficiency than the Jumbo Jet.
If its numbers add up up and its competitive against the triple seven then i honestly cant see why they wouldn't,both planes are still dominant in their own markets.
A twin engine 747 - Ya Right. Boeing can't get the new 777X certified and currently it's grounded. I just love FAKE NEWS, and this channel has a great start for it.
Have to have more than twice the thrust because when you loose an engine you loose 50% of your thrust with two engines as opposed to 25% with four. The Ultra fan is about efficiency not more thrust. For either a 777 or a stretch A350. Perhaps if they scaled up the Ultra fan and slowed the Fan speed, And could get 160,000 lbs max thrust, a two engine 747 would be possible. You have to think of an engine packing a sad on take off, gear still down and two feet off the ground, And a fully laden aircraft, on a hot day still being able to fly.
7:48 The SOFIA Astronomy Science flight program was in operation for 8 years and concluded after the 921st flight in September 29, 2022 . The Boeing 747SP used to carry the telescope has been preserved and put on display at the Pima Air & Space Museum near Tucson, Arizona.
Outdated - Sofia aka N747NA has been retired. Two 747SP remain in service with Pratt & Whitney Canada as engine testbed but 18 are stored somewhere so if you have some small change and fancy an SP, it can probably be arranged.
The thumbnail, I literally suggested that once to the Boeing home page itself, a 747-8 with 2 GE9X engines capable of making it have a greater range of 10000 miles orsum
@@GooglePlusPages I assume you're referring to the new VC-25B which are going to replace the current VC-25As. They are based on 747-8 airframes built but not delivered for a Russian airline. So second hand or "new old stock" basically.
Use four to get in the air and up to altitude. Cut two to slow. Cruise on two. The two you cut down to slow are the launch engines, much more thrust and power than you need for flight. The two you use are the two conventional engines, a moderate version of the 747's engine now. These are outboard to reduce noise in flight for passengers. Let's face it, quads have their use. Big engines have their limitations.
Boeing no longer has the credibility to sell or the capability to produce a 747 Twin even if they wanted to. After the 737 Max, would you trust Boeing to re-engineer an existing plane? Me neither.
The A380 has 4 engines. It’s a physics issue. Energy creates work and however you try and make things work more efficiently it still takes a certain amount of energy to create certain amount of work. If it takes 10 gallons of Jet A to make 3000 lbs of thrust for one minute it will always take 10 gallons to make 3000 lbs for 1 minute. today tomorrow and 100 years from now.
The biggest significant difference between the 747 and the Airbus A380-800 is that Airbus took the front bulge and lengthened it down the fuselage. Boeing is not run by engineers any more, so they do hopelessly coderivative things. They can't figure out why programmers and engineers can't do their jobs when dealing with a company bureaucracy that has no understanding of what it takes to do the job right. They do not understand how to be competitive any more.
Much ado about nothing. Entertaining enough that I watched it all. The reason for triple engine airplanes was due to a lack of confidence in engine reliability, especially over the ocean, after jet engines became normal after WW2. Having only two engines is kind of spooky if there's no where to land if one fails. Modern engines are very reliable.
Boeing should have developed the 747 twin jet ... when Airbus was developing the A380. And instead of developing the 787 .... develop Max & X versions of the 737, 757, 767 & 777 ... plus certify a new standard glass cockpit with digital flybywire & stick controls as an option for all models. Although they should have developed a 737 replacement the moment the knew of the specs of the A320.... Boeing would still dominate the narrow body twin jets today ... with Max & X versions of the 737 & 757 and the flybywire stick control option. Developing the 787 when they had the 767, in response to no interest in a new 747 to compete with the A380 was just plain dumb. Airbus had become a major manufacturer due to the A320 ... which was clearly superior in every way to the 737 which has the same size fuselage as the 757 with tall landing gear & large turbofans engines. And Boeing messed up again with the 777 not have the new glass cockpit with digital fyly by wire & stick controls like the A320. A 747 twin jet ... with composite gull wings should have been offered in the early 2000's. And the 777 X if no interest in the 747 twin. Boeing never developed NG, Max & X versions of the 757 & 767.
We don't say 'three point fifty six metres'. This is a basic misunderstanding of base 10 counting and decimal points. We say 'three point five six' because 56 is a quantity of 56 things. Point 56 is a quantity of 56/100 things: not even one thing! Someone needs to fix the computer voice to understand number theory.
Bs... I feel safer on an airplane with 4 engines. The two engine configuration is a cheaper design. And if I can't have an airplane with four I'd opt for a 3 engine configuration. More is always better. This is a b******* add
Bovine manure!!! This opinion has come back again.. Makes no sense.............. There is no way a redesigned 747 configuration could be economical when compared to other options such as a stretched 777. you can't just throw two engines of a large diameter on the existing wing plan form. The wing, landing gear and wing mounted controls and high lift systems would require an extensive redesign. Before this article was submitted, a review by a sophomore level Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineer should have been made to avoid the obvious economic, technical and logistic barriers by this dream based fantasy. A 747 style fuselage could be mated to a new wing, gear and controls, but that would be a new type design. The 777 fuselage construction is far easier to build and maintain (with a more recent type certification) than trying to force feed a 1967 type design into the 2030 ish domain.
But IT IS happening,and the FIRST Registration of that twin "747"-will be NCC 1701 ,ENTERPRISE Space Ship ALLSO have TWO Warp Engines,so why not ,new 797-NCC 😛
Boeing has done enough BS trying to retrofit old desing with the 737: it would make more sense if they try to upbrage the 777 rather that take 747 back. If they can still make planes good at this point...
Articles with titles "Shocked everyone" are guaranteed click bait for something that just popped in someone's head.
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I can guarantee you it's NOT happening....
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@@brealistic3542who are you to say that? An engineer? A pilot? Boeings ceo?
Clickbait.
It's not a thing.
It is. The Rolls Royce 747 was in Tucson at the Raytheon facility from 2013 till 2018 and you could see on the runway this construction happening.
@@brianlitz5102
If it was, every aircraft channel would know about it. The two engine 747 has been discussed in depth in many places and there's no factual information about it going ahead anywhere.
If it was, Boeing would have released information before now, 2018 is 6 years ago and Boeing need every good news story they can get right now.
@@Danger_mouse your right, I just imagined it for all those years when I was flying multiple times per week out of Tucson. Must have been all the drugs I was taking!
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Not gonna happen. Boeing will just need to redesign the 777 bigger to use the RR Ultrafan engine. No need to bring back the Jumbo 747 as it would require a complete overhaul of its control surfaces and gut all of its hydraulic control lines to fly-by-wire as the latest 777 & 787 models. Not gonna happen.
The 777X is filling the gap between the classic 777 and 747. The question is how much space there would remain for a new 747 class aircraft. Anyway, the manufacturing facilities including 3rd parties is already mostly gone. At this point setting up manufacturing for a new 747 variant would be almost like doing it for an entirely new aircraft, so why not going all out for a new aircraft. Or a further extended 747XX or 747XXX ;-) Given Boeing's current problems I'd expect them to care more about future profitability than adventures, after all the 747-8i didn't sell too well.
Boeing has far too much on its plate right now to even think about this.
Boeing got itself in trouble re-engineering the 737 with bigger engines to make the 737max. The 737 airframe and flight characteristics were all wrong, and unable to handle the larger engines, and the 737max has been a commercial disaster. That should be a lesson for Boeing. Forget the 747, it's gone and passed.
That two engine 747 looks ridiculous. Like one of those cars you see in the hood, with the rims that are way, way to big.
Im an Engineer for 747400....the engine diameter will help but the only difference will be to get a new gearbox for the engine to improve and save fuel.
The design modifications to change from a quad redundancy to a dual redundancy system would be insane. Might as well just design a completely new aircraft, that is neither a 747 nor a 777.
747-8 Neo 💀💀
Lol
Boeing A380-300 Neo-Er
Time marches on and the 747 has had its day. It was a grand time but the Queen of the Skys day is over. I loved flying 747's. They were an experience like no other. They were so beautiful no matter the livery.
I just walked the Everett final assembly last Friday…there’s no “empty production line” with 777 and 767 military variants like the KC-46. It’s bullshit.
Unlikely, the 747-8 won't have the twin engine variant as the 777x and the dreamliner have longer range capabilities with better fuel efficiency than the Jumbo Jet.
Dude fuel efficiency is based on motors range can be lot longer also with new motors and tail wings…
If its numbers add up up and its competitive against the triple seven then i honestly cant see why they wouldn't,both planes are still dominant in their own markets.
A twin engine 747 - Ya Right. Boeing can't get the new 777X certified and currently it's grounded. I just love FAKE NEWS, and this channel has a great start for it.
Never trust a YT clip with NOW! in the title, or with any number of exclamation marks.
The Rabbid Invasion Cartoon is true this whole time 💀
I looked up clickbait on Wikipedia and this was the reference link!
A Boeing 747 with twin Engines Look so Silly that i think that it will Never Build
This is stupid click bait
Have to have more than twice the thrust because when you loose an engine you loose 50% of your thrust with two engines as opposed to 25% with four. The Ultra fan is about efficiency not more thrust. For either a 777 or a stretch A350. Perhaps if they scaled up the Ultra fan and slowed the Fan speed, And could get 160,000 lbs max thrust, a two engine 747 would be possible. You have to think of an engine packing a sad on take off, gear still down and two feet off the ground, And a fully laden aircraft, on a hot day still being able to fly.
7:48 The SOFIA Astronomy Science flight program was in operation for 8 years and concluded after the 921st flight in September 29, 2022 . The Boeing 747SP used to carry the telescope has been preserved and put on display at the Pima Air & Space Museum near Tucson, Arizona.
Outdated - Sofia aka N747NA has been retired. Two 747SP remain in service with Pratt & Whitney Canada as engine testbed but 18 are stored somewhere so if you have some small change and fancy an SP, it can probably be arranged.
The thumbnail, I literally suggested that once to the Boeing home page itself, a 747-8 with 2 GE9X engines capable of making it have a greater range of 10000 miles orsum
my dude uploaded literally the same exact thumbnail 1 month prior
They would almost have to completely redesign the thing to move the CG back in line after this. Clickbait.
Ha... That didn't stop boeing when they made the 737 Max; "We'll just add some software to keep the nose up" What could go wrong?
You ain’t fooling anyone Boeing has ended the production for good
@@Zeldafan48 and the VC-25?
@@GooglePlusPages I assume you're referring to the new VC-25B which are going to replace the current VC-25As. They are based on 747-8 airframes built but not delivered for a Russian airline. So second hand or "new old stock" basically.
I guess that given that was the last model that rolled off the assembly line at Everett, that makes it relatively new
Did you forget they're already back in service I saw one in flight radar
Cost of development vs expected demand = no case for two engine 747
This is an absolute masterpiece……
Of fake news and clickbait
Full of BS the tooling has been destroyed to build 747's
such a worthless time to watch this vid
Stupid click bait, why would they do that when they have the 777/777X?
Use four to get in the air and up to altitude. Cut two to slow. Cruise on two. The two you cut down to slow are the launch engines, much more thrust and power than you need for flight. The two you use are the two conventional engines, a moderate version of the 747's engine now. These are outboard to reduce noise in flight for passengers. Let's face it, quads have their use. Big engines have their limitations.
"Are we set to see this iconic airliner re-engined with two engines instead of four?" After 9 minutes, no.
CLICKBAIT BS !!!!!!
Boeing has more serious problems to solve, rather than bring back to production 60 years old model.
I will hate the 747 so much if it becomes a twin engine cause then it would just ruin the jumbo jet family
NICE STORY .... I'LL BELIEVE IT WHEN IT FLIES !!!
777 in point of fact was not designed as a freight plane like the 747 was - hint, that swing up nose...
never in ANYONES FUCKING LIFETIME will this happen
Boeing should reverse the merger with MD!!! Boeing should have left MD to rot. If DOD wanted MD let DOD bail them out!!!
Boeing no longer has the credibility to sell or the capability to produce a 747 Twin even if they wanted to. After the 737 Max, would you trust Boeing to re-engineer an existing plane? Me neither.
The A380 has 4 engines. It’s a physics issue. Energy creates work and however you try and make things work more efficiently it still takes a certain amount of energy to create certain amount of work. If it takes 10 gallons of Jet A to make 3000 lbs of thrust for one minute it will always take 10 gallons to make 3000 lbs for 1 minute. today tomorrow and 100 years from now.
Click bait.
Guys this is FAKE!
Clickbait lies.
The range is proportional to the span . So to make a 747 competitive with the 777X you end up with ... 777X
Your comments about the DC-10 are misleading, because it became the MD-11, which stayed in production until October 2000.
The biggest significant difference between the 747 and the Airbus A380-800 is that Airbus took the front bulge and lengthened it down the fuselage. Boeing is not run by engineers any more, so they do hopelessly coderivative things. They can't figure out why programmers and engineers can't do their jobs when dealing with a company bureaucracy that has no understanding of what it takes to do the job right. They do not understand how to be competitive any more.
As long as they're re-engineered correctly. No computer controlled crap like the 737 max. Learn the lesson and don't repeat the mistake.
More fake garbage. Clickbait 🙄
Much ado about nothing. Entertaining enough that I watched it all. The reason for triple engine airplanes was due to a lack of confidence in engine reliability, especially over the ocean, after jet engines became normal after WW2. Having only two engines is kind of spooky if there's no where to land if one fails. Modern engines are very reliable.
Misleading title...Click bait ! disliked & unsubscribed
It looks like they are also going back to the 3-window/side upper deck configuration! 😂
You got my hopes up
Your title says that the twin 747 is coming, but the narrative says Boeing is deciding. Which is it?
Fake. If a 747 had 2 engines it couldn't lift the amount weight of cargo and the civilians
If they made a 747 duel engine plane, it would not be a 747.
Y’all didn’t know I shared a birthday with the first B747 flight?
Flew KLM's 747 from NYC to Aruba in the 70.s many times. Then AA.
It seems likely that Boeing no longer has the skills to build a new, ground up plane.
You`d need a new wing, cost would be prohibitive....so no chance.
Oh hell nah that’s not happening they have too many other problems to worry about
Didn't shock me you pratt!
Use the Ultrafan in a Tri-Jet configuration and you've got redundancy and a lift winner.
'Effing CLICK BAIT!!! A total bull excrement lie!!!!👎👎👎👎
Never heard of the MD11?
Boeing should have developed the 747 twin jet ... when Airbus was developing the A380.
And instead of developing the 787 .... develop Max & X versions of the 737, 757, 767 & 777 ... plus certify a new standard glass cockpit with digital flybywire & stick controls as an option for all models. Although they should have developed a 737 replacement the moment the knew of the specs of the A320.... Boeing would still dominate the narrow body twin jets today ... with Max & X versions of the 737 & 757 and the flybywire stick control option.
Developing the 787 when they had the 767, in response to no interest in a new 747 to compete with the A380 was just plain dumb. Airbus had become a major manufacturer due to the A320 ... which was clearly superior in every way to the 737 which has the same size fuselage as the 757 with tall landing gear & large turbofans engines. And Boeing messed up again with the 777 not have the new glass cockpit with digital fyly by wire & stick controls like the A320.
A 747 twin jet ... with composite gull wings should have been offered in the early 2000's. And the 777 X if no interest in the 747 twin. Boeing never developed NG, Max & X versions of the 757 & 767.
Can a 747 stay up with one engine? Even if its a big one? /shrug
this is very fake yesterday i saw a 747 cathay pacific cargo plane
What bullshit click bait....
Imagine a 747 witb 5 engine's
We don't say 'three point fifty six metres'. This is a basic misunderstanding of base 10 counting and decimal points. We say 'three point five six' because 56 is a quantity of 56 things. Point 56 is a quantity of 56/100 things: not even one thing! Someone needs to fix the computer voice to understand number theory.
Do, you know that b797 is coming out soon so I think the new b747 will not come out
Well if Boeing does do this they had better do it right with zero hiccups.
the twin-jet 737 looks weird asf
👎for click baiting me
Just bring back the original 747
Bs... I feel safer on an airplane with 4 engines. The two engine configuration is a cheaper design. And if I can't have an airplane with four I'd opt for a 3 engine configuration. More is always better. This is a b******* add
No chance it’s going to happen because Boeing has enough problems on its plate than adding one more to its list of drama’s!!.
Leave it to Boeing to give up on the skills to design and make a new plane, now they will just stick to slapping new engines on the old designs.
Boeing is done
Bovine manure!!!
This opinion has come back again.. Makes no sense.............. There is no way a redesigned 747 configuration could be economical when compared to other options such as a stretched 777. you can't just throw two engines of a large diameter on the existing wing plan form. The wing, landing gear and wing mounted controls and high lift systems would require an extensive redesign.
Before this article was submitted, a review by a sophomore level Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineer should have been made to avoid the obvious economic, technical and logistic barriers by this dream based fantasy. A 747 style fuselage could be mated to a new wing, gear and controls, but that would be a new type design. The 777 fuselage construction is far easier to build and maintain (with a more recent type certification) than trying to force feed a 1967 type design into the 2030 ish domain.
Well, it would suck up all the In-N- Out cups off the runway at LAX.
Nope not true
It's possible, if they don't depend on GE for the engine and don't put an X on the name. Lol
2 out 10. More effort. More research. Less bullshit.
South African Airways bought the 747SP….. the shortened, long range aircraft!
Yeah but Boeing are on strike at the moment
One day after my bday in 2022... the 747 got retired 😭
But IT IS happening,and the FIRST Registration of that twin "747"-will be NCC 1701 ,ENTERPRISE Space Ship ALLSO have TWO Warp Engines,so why not ,new 797-NCC 😛
Or Boeing can add a "Hump" to the 777 and call it a day.
Boeing has done enough BS trying to retrofit old desing with the 737: it would make more sense if they try to upbrage the 777 rather that take 747 back.
If they can still make planes good at this point...
0:38 McDonald’s 💀
Bro be quiet
@@KrokoSIMnahhhh
Agreed, McDonald's is crazy
No way it happens bc the chances of it happening are 0.000000000001% chance
Wow, what a great fantasy, let’s be honest we’ve all fantasized something crazy but we all know it would NEVER come true, but keep believing I guess
Could be the new RR engines are for the yet to be announced 797 project?
I’m going to start a airline called Sealy team airways and Sealy team cargo and I will get the 747 and the l-1011
Hotel-icopter is more believeable. Lol
LIES ! A BIG BALONEY SANDWICH (B.S. !!!!!!)
Clickbait