It can definitely be traumatic for young children, but its imperative that they learn to work through it. It took my brother a couple years to stop freaking out about fire alarms in school. I was terrified of them until grade 3
My elementary school was the worst, we had mixed devices . 4040s , mass ada’s and l series. Until I went to the other school . We just have mass adas now
Hey Nic, I totally agree with you about not telling students about the drills. They do the same thing in my district. The students couldn't care less when the alarms sound; they see it as a way to get out of class.
Really think no one should know about the drills. They won't know if there is going to be a fire in advance. Also the drill should have kept going because if that was a real fire they cant tell the fire to stop.
Honestly I like it when they tell us there will be a drill so it doesn’t scare me a ton but at the same time I do think it is a bit stupid because you can’t tell when there will be a fire
@thepokemonguy996 yeah the alarm always scared me for the first bit because I'm not expecting it (especially right after school started at 7 :30 and the class happened to be completely quiet for once). In my school the teachers were never told the exact times/days, but had a list of possible times that it could happen. There were actually two times my senior year where the alarm went off for smoke near the electrical room (which happened at the worst time, 10 minutes before the end of the school day.) and another time because someone burnt some food.
For me it depends if it’s not ear piercing loud i’m ok with doing suprise drills while you got a valid point but at the same time doing surprise or unplanned fire drills can also risk getting into trouble by the fire department and them responding for only a drill not an actual emergency like how my high school handled it once
The only problem with the ones that have autism or other conditions that would be triggered by the fire alarms going off. If they have a meltdown in public it would just cause more chaos and confusion so I don't think you can win either way announced or not
When I was in high school they never set off the fire alarm for drills. They just got over the intercom and said alright everyone evacuate. The fire alarm only went off twice in my four years, once because the chemistry teacher did something that set it off and the second time was because someone thought it would be funny to pull a pull station. That was a nice surprise that no one was expecting, even the fire department showed up.
I agree with you. I don't like announced drills. I do have autisme. But I coped with horn strobes quicker than bells. But some alarms were tripped by detectors. I've evacuated every at alarm since my first fire drill. Except when they announce to disregard.
@@nickcliff I've lived on both sides of the ocean. In New Jersey, all drills were unannounced. In the Netherlands, I had a few announcements. Because half of the residents have disabilities. Like wheelchair and autism. I am against announced drills. I treat every alarm seriously
I say as a special needs teacher in early childhood education, if one of my kids with auditory sensitivities won't leave when the fire alarm rings, meltdown or no, I am physically picking them up and getting them out. Their safety comes first, I can calm the anxiety attack outside. But also that's why I encourage the use of noise cancelling headphones for those children. Serves a double purpose as it reduces overstimulation in normal day functions in addition to making loud noise less startling. TLDR, leaving a student behind in a fire drill is careless. Point blank. I said what I said.
I totally agree that you don’t like the pre fire alarms and great vid keep up the awesome work it doesn’t teach anything to the kids when the pre fire alarm.
I agree 100% with you on the pre evacuating thing it doesn't teach you anything the kids need to learn what to do when the fire alarm sounds end of the story fires are just like natural disasters like earthquakes they can and will happen at any moment notice you can't pre evac for a earthquake you can't pre evac for a fire nether just learn what to do when it happens I would speak with the fire department about coming in doing a training course for staff and students pre evacuating does no good going into the real world fire alarms might be loud and scary but they will save your life one way or another.
I absolutely agree with you that the students should not be informed of planned fire drills. In fact, I'd go as far as saying the teachers shouldn't be informed either. However, I can definitely relate when it comes to sensitivity to sudden noises and alarms. But at the same time, real fires sadly happen and they don't give you any warning. In the highly unfortunate event of a real emergency, we can't have students refusing to evacuate the building. The point of fire drills is to practice a real life scenario so that we can determine what was done right and what went wrong. That way, the evacuation process can be perfected so that everyone is prepared for a real emergency situation. Telling everyone ahead of time is pointless. Not only are crucial lessons not learned, but many of the students likely won't take it seriously. While some people do struggle with noise sensitivity and alarm fears, pre-evacuating them and doing announced drills is the wrong approach. Instead, we need to help them overcome their fears and work through the challenges. That's the best way to ensure a quick and safe evacuation of the building.
I can kind of relate to that guy. I used to be super sensitive to noise when I was younger, and fire drills were like walking through hell because of it. But over the years my sensitivity to it went down, and now I’m perfectly fine with it. I still jump ten feet in the air when they first go off, but then I spring right into action and make my way out of the building, ‘cause that’s what you’re supposed to do.
@@nics-systems-electricahh okay, more of a personal question I understand if u don’t wanna answer. Are you planning on getting a job with them?. I know you’re probably still figuring stuff out. Js curious tho lol
At my schools we wait three minutes before we can evacuate ( if in a lockdown the fire alarm goes off we still wait three minutes before we can evacuate)
So you have never dealt with autistic children who are sensitive with noise and can have a meltdown with the slightest sound. To say what you said is very insensitive and I hope you don't have to deal with such children during your life time. As a parent with an autistic kid we make sure that his teachers warn us of such event like this we can prepare him and get his noise canceller on him. Unfortnately sometimes they don't warn us and this is the end results.
It's very insensitive to not prepare a child for an emergency where having a meltdown can endanger themselves and others. Those that have been trained and been in emergency situations understand that. That includes some of the school principals who realize that it may be difficult for some students but that's life and you've got to deal with it.
If I may ask, how would your son's teachers warn you to put his noise canceler on him in the event of an actual emergency? Fire drills are not conducted in schools to torture children who are sensitive to loud noises. They are performed so the building's occupants know how to respond during an actual fire.
@@ShaunPuzon Hi Shaun thank you for your question, I normally get two types of warning one by email from the teacher themselves and the other by his daily announcements which also includes any specific activities. Also when an autistic child has an encounter with a surprise sounds he or she will react in a negatives ways. Now any parent that has an autistic child verbal or non verbal knows that any kind of sounds can cause a reactions that can be dramatic. Now I understand that this might be difficult for those who hasn't had any types of dealing with autism and for them it might seems strange but trust me when you have to deal with a child who suffer with noise sensitivity it can be very difficult. So when someone says too bad deal with it or pass judgments by saying kids who have meltdown our too fill in the blank then it shows two things one theirs maturity and empathy and second their experience with such persons. Also noise canclers are always with the child no matter what to protect them and fire drills exercise are warned ahead of time and if G0D forbid a real fire happens then his cancelers are with him at all times...
- did a lot of students at your high school know you (or of you) for being the guy who does all the fire drills and stuff? has any students seen you pull a pull station at the school for a drill and been surprised or something?
There's something I need to tell you Nic and everyone else for that matter so please read this: You remember how you're residential smoke alarms were so bad and you got rid of them? Mine are even worse, they are the quietest things in my house. So I was walking around my house minding my own business and heard my smoke detector making weird noises, so I went downstairs, and it was smoking down there because a family member of mine was cooking. So I told her that you're setting off the smoke detector, and she was like I couldn't hear it. My life is at risk because of and if there is a fire. My smoke detectors are too quiet to alert me. I hope you guys reading this not have this problem like I do.
I mean... in this day and age for some ppl feelings/emotions/psychological well-being is more important than facts and logic. For them, who cares if it doesn't make sense? If it made them feel safe (also social safetism is a thing btw) or good or positive, then that's all that matters. Nevermind if it's illogical. Not saying psycho-wellbeing is unimportant, just saying that for some ppl, they go head over heels bent up on worrying so much ab feelings and emotions to the point that it seems that logic doesn't even exist, and I particularly think that's humanely dangerous.
@@the_1drummajor i hated loud noise as a child but understood it was to save lives and that you exit the build when they go off... Kids had issues 30 years ago and we just didnt baby them in dangers situations
Umm Nic, you need to be a bit more careful about what you're sharing in these videos. In previous ones I've been able to work out which school it was from some things you could see on the walls (specific big words). And now I've been able to work out where you live and that's probably a bad idea to make that publicly available. Think about cutting a bit out here.
@@davidcharlton I don't see anything wrong with this video I usually review them once or twice but if you want me to be even more diligent that will mean the end of my channel I'm already trying to work go to college have a life to myself and do this on top I do not have time to invest anymore into these videos.
It can definitely be traumatic for young children, but its imperative that they learn to work through it. It took my brother a couple years to stop freaking out about fire alarms in school. I was terrified of them until grade 3
I was scared of them but only when they started. My school had SmartSync TrueAlerts and I was terrified of unexpected loud noises
@@MichanaAlertingsame
My elementary school was the worst, we had mixed devices . 4040s , mass ada’s and l series. Until I went to the other school . We just have mass adas now
They have to have fire drills in the uk we had them
Hey Nic, I totally agree with you about not telling students about the drills. They do the same thing in my district. The students couldn't care less when the alarms sound; they see it as a way to get out of class.
She sounds lonely! All the bells!
One of the few systems left that still does continuous; as even most bell based systems are getting to be code 3
Really think no one should know about the drills. They won't know if there is going to be a fire in advance. Also the drill should have kept going because if that was a real fire they cant tell the fire to stop.
Honestly I like it when they tell us there will be a drill so it doesn’t scare me a ton but at the same time I do think it is a bit stupid because you can’t tell when there will be a fire
@thepokemonguy996 yeah the alarm always scared me for the first bit because I'm not expecting it (especially right after school started at 7 :30 and the class happened to be completely quiet for once). In my school the teachers were never told the exact times/days, but had a list of possible times that it could happen. There were actually two times my senior year where the alarm went off for smoke near the electrical room (which happened at the worst time, 10 minutes before the end of the school day.) and another time because someone burnt some food.
For me it depends if it’s not ear piercing loud i’m ok with doing suprise drills while you got a valid point but at the same time doing surprise or unplanned fire drills can also risk getting into trouble by the fire department and them responding for only a drill not an actual emergency like how my high school handled it once
The only problem with the ones that have autism or other conditions that would be triggered by the fire alarms going off. If they have a meltdown in public it would just cause more chaos and confusion so I don't think you can win either way announced or not
in my area any ac o or vent units must shut down when the alarm goes off and each vent duct run has a damper that closes as well very fussy here
When I was in high school they never set off the fire alarm for drills. They just got over the intercom and said alright everyone evacuate. The fire alarm only went off twice in my four years, once because the chemistry teacher did something that set it off and the second time was because someone thought it would be funny to pull a pull station. That was a nice surprise that no one was expecting, even the fire department showed up.
I agree with you. I don't like announced drills. I do have autisme. But I coped with horn strobes quicker than bells. But some alarms were tripped by detectors. I've evacuated every at alarm since my first fire drill. Except when they announce to disregard.
In schools in the uk were I live they never announced fire drills I guess uk fire drills are different then in Canada
@@nickcliff I've lived on both sides of the ocean. In New Jersey, all drills were unannounced.
In the Netherlands, I had a few announcements. Because half of the residents have disabilities. Like wheelchair and autism. I am against announced drills. I treat every alarm seriously
I agree with your comments on announcing when a fire drill is to be had. Emergencies do not announce themselves before they occur.
Nice vid Nic!
I say as a special needs teacher in early childhood education, if one of my kids with auditory sensitivities won't leave when the fire alarm rings, meltdown or no, I am physically picking them up and getting them out. Their safety comes first, I can calm the anxiety attack outside. But also that's why I encourage the use of noise cancelling headphones for those children. Serves a double purpose as it reduces overstimulation in normal day functions in addition to making loud noise less startling. TLDR, leaving a student behind in a fire drill is careless. Point blank. I said what I said.
nice fast fire drill
Nic, what is it that you do for living? Because i like messing with fire systems!
I totally agree that you don’t like the pre fire alarms and great vid keep up the awesome work it doesn’t teach anything to the kids when the pre fire alarm.
When I was a kid I hated the bells. I prefer the horn and strobes over the bells.
Nice fast fire drill Nic 😊❤
I have a question at random times my jobs fire alarm bells ding for a minute with no codes on panel is this normal it happens lot
I had my last fire drill today and it scared me so bad since I was grabbing a laptop
Nice video nic
can Jackson hear it from your house?
I think he can because dogs can hear high frequencies better than humans
Love it
I agree 100% with you on the pre evacuating thing it doesn't teach you anything the kids need to learn what to do when the fire alarm sounds end of the story fires are just like natural disasters like earthquakes they can and will happen at any moment notice you can't pre evac for a earthquake you can't pre evac for a fire nether just learn what to do when it happens I would speak with the fire department about coming in doing a training course for staff and students pre evacuating does no good going into the real world fire alarms might be loud and scary but they will save your life one way or another.
AIR HANDLERS SHOULD SHUT DOWN AS THERE SUPLY AIR TO BUILDING WHICH WOULD HELP THE FIRE SPREAD AND THE AIR HANDLERS HAVE SMOKE DETECTORS IN THEM .
Depends on how they are installed in the building
I absolutely agree with you that the students should not be informed of planned fire drills. In fact, I'd go as far as saying the teachers shouldn't be informed either. However, I can definitely relate when it comes to sensitivity to sudden noises and alarms. But at the same time, real fires sadly happen and they don't give you any warning. In the highly unfortunate event of a real emergency, we can't have students refusing to evacuate the building. The point of fire drills is to practice a real life scenario so that we can determine what was done right and what went wrong. That way, the evacuation process can be perfected so that everyone is prepared for a real emergency situation. Telling everyone ahead of time is pointless. Not only are crucial lessons not learned, but many of the students likely won't take it seriously. While some people do struggle with noise sensitivity and alarm fears, pre-evacuating them and doing announced drills is the wrong approach. Instead, we need to help them overcome their fears and work through the challenges. That's the best way to ensure a quick and safe evacuation of the building.
I can kind of relate to that guy. I used to be super sensitive to noise when I was younger, and fire drills were like walking through hell because of it. But over the years my sensitivity to it went down, and now I’m perfectly fine with it. I still jump ten feet in the air when they first go off, but then I spring right into action and make my way out of the building, ‘cause that’s what you’re supposed to do.
Finally a new vid
How do you take out people out of your videos? I want to know how to do it so I can learn how to do it for my video for my channel.
Lettsss gooooo.
So, I thought u weren’t doing drills anymore since you graduated. Or have I misunderstood?
Old video
@@nics-systems-electricahh okay, more of a personal question I understand if u don’t wanna answer.
Are you planning on getting a job with them?.
I know you’re probably still figuring stuff out. Js curious tho lol
@@13kyky13 no I don't want to work there and they don't hire apprentices
At my schools we wait three minutes before we can evacuate ( if in a lockdown the fire alarm goes off we still wait three minutes before we can evacuate)
why are there 2 pull stations with in 5 ft of each other?
There has to be one within 1.5 m of exit and stairwell
When I was a kid My principal told me to pull the fire alarm for our last fire drill.
Our automatic generator just got serviced and ran
So you have never dealt with autistic children who are sensitive with noise and can have a meltdown with the slightest sound. To say what you said is very insensitive and I hope you don't have to deal with such children during your life time. As a parent with an autistic kid we make sure that his teachers warn us of such event like this we can prepare him and get his noise canceller on him. Unfortnately sometimes they don't warn us and this is the end results.
It's very insensitive to not prepare a child for an emergency where having a meltdown can endanger themselves and others. Those that have been trained and been in emergency situations understand that. That includes some of the school principals who realize that it may be difficult for some students but that's life and you've got to deal with it.
If I may ask, how would your son's teachers warn you to put his noise canceler on him in the event of an actual emergency? Fire drills are not conducted in schools to torture children who are sensitive to loud noises. They are performed so the building's occupants know how to respond during an actual fire.
@@ShaunPuzon Hi Shaun thank you for your question, I normally get two types of warning one by email from the teacher themselves and the other by his daily announcements which also includes any specific activities. Also when an autistic child has an encounter with a surprise sounds he or she will react in a negatives ways. Now any parent that has an autistic child verbal or non verbal knows that any kind of sounds can cause a reactions that can be dramatic. Now I understand that this might be difficult for those who hasn't had any types of dealing with autism and for them it might seems strange but trust me when you have to deal with a child who suffer with noise sensitivity it can be very difficult. So when someone says too bad deal with it or pass judgments by saying kids who have meltdown our too fill in the blank then it shows two things one theirs maturity and empathy and second their experience with such persons. Also noise canclers are always with the child no matter what to protect them and fire drills exercise are warned ahead of time and if G0D forbid a real fire happens then his cancelers are with him at all times...
Yay
ONLY 170! In my county and most of Florida its 800-1700 Kids, my middle school was designed to be for 1000 kids but theres 1500 kids when I went.
Elementary schools are usually smaller from 200 to 600 usually
@@nics-systems-electric mine was 1000 k-5
- did a lot of students at your high school know you (or of you) for being the guy who does all the fire drills and stuff? has any students seen you pull a pull station at the school for a drill and been surprised or something?
I had those sensory issues a lot when I was little up until the middle of elementary school when I got over it.
Is this summer school?
No
Hey. Nick can we be friends please my name is Mika I’m a guy from Montreal
There's something I need to tell you Nic and everyone else for that matter so please read this: You remember how you're residential smoke alarms were so bad and you got rid of them? Mine are even worse, they are the quietest things in my house. So I was walking around my house minding my own business and heard my smoke detector making weird noises, so I went downstairs, and it was smoking down there because a family member of mine was cooking. So I told her that you're setting off the smoke detector, and she was like I couldn't hear it.
My life is at risk because of and if there is a fire. My smoke detectors are too quiet to alert me. I hope you guys reading this not have this problem like I do.
Get some residential smokes that have one go all go
@@digitaldarknes5 It's called interconnection, and I do have that, I said they are just too quiet
Imo pre evacuating people for drills should be illegal
My name is simon obr
only in elmetry school
Snowflake generation needs warnings there is a fire drill.
I mean... in this day and age for some ppl feelings/emotions/psychological well-being is more important than facts and logic. For them, who cares if it doesn't make sense? If it made them feel safe (also social safetism is a thing btw) or good or positive, then that's all that matters. Nevermind if it's illogical. Not saying psycho-wellbeing is unimportant, just saying that for some ppl, they go head over heels bent up on worrying so much ab feelings and emotions to the point that it seems that logic doesn't even exist, and I particularly think that's humanely dangerous.
@@the_1drummajor i hated loud noise as a child but understood it was to save lives and that you exit the build when they go off... Kids had issues 30 years ago and we just didnt baby them in dangers situations
Hi❤
Umm Nic, you need to be a bit more careful about what you're sharing in these videos. In previous ones I've been able to work out which school it was from some things you could see on the walls (specific big words). And now I've been able to work out where you live and that's probably a bad idea to make that publicly available. Think about cutting a bit out here.
Yes I do my best to hide information unfortunately there are people that want to know where I live and I can't stop them
@@nics-systems-electric You could definitely do a bit more in this one to make it harder / less obvious.
@@davidcharlton I don't see anything wrong with this video I usually review them once or twice but if you want me to be even more diligent that will mean the end of my channel I'm already trying to work go to college have a life to myself and do this on top I do not have time to invest anymore into these videos.
Nic I enjoy watching your videos and don't give a rats ass where you live. Keep up the good work!
@@ebelray6890 thanks for the support. It's getting tougher to put out videos as life gets busier so sometimes I have slip ups.
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Yee it is I can see that