"It doesn't feel like a red lock; it feels like a gray one." And *THAT,* folks, is how you know you're dealing with an experienced mechanic. Knows by *feel* what the different connectors are. Expert level: ∞
I live 30 miles from the GM World Headquarters. I live 40 miles from the GM Tech Center where all their engineering is done. I have lived in this house 40 years. Our winters are identical to Eric's. It is incomprehensible to me that they design and build those drop down spare tires. They will not work if rusted, and the engineers place them out in the open under the vehicle where winter salt can splash on them. It is incomprehensible to me that they design those fuel pumps to sit in a depression on top of the tank, where any salt water thrown up during our Michigan winters will remain for ever. The salt can never ever get away, and is available to cause damage every single day it is wet year round. Just invert the depression to a mound. You will get the same strength benefit, but the water will flow away.
Engineers design these for manufacturability and minimum cost. They never work on them or expect them to function beyond the factory warranty period. What a sad state of affairs and an enormous waste of resources to crush 10 yo vehicles and make new ones…
I grew up in Novi, MI and have also lived just North of Eric in Rochester New York. For whatever reason the rust is far worse in New York. Can’t really explain why though.
Vanessa didn’t seem as impressed by the fact that the spare came down without any fight as she should’ve been😂 you are definitely living right with that one.
Mrs O is tired of hearing how amazing Eric is. I built My wife the house we live in, I get no credit for it, she is too used to what I can do. My customers on the other hand are very vocal about it and are floored my wife is so matter of fact. Maybe the replacement will be better 😉😆
My Dad got bit by the spare tire on his brand new Chevy pickup. He took his new truck to the U.P. in Michigan on a hunting trip. The roads up there in the forest have sharp gravel. Dad got a flat. He went to drop the spare and it wouldn't come down. Something about a safety latch so the spare doesn't fall out when driving down the road. He followed the instructions to the letter but couldn't trip the safety latch. He started hoofing it back to town. Another hunter gave him a lift. For some reason they have a holiday where no businesses open until noon on that day. Once the garage opened the tow truck retrieved his truck. The mechanic got the spare down. That evening Dad was talking with a fellow hunter who owned a new Ford pickup. He said he got a flat and couldn't get his spare to lower. The guy wasn't about to hoof it back to town. He had a chain and wrapped it around the spare, tied off to a tree and used that Ford power to rip the spare out from under the truck! 🤣🤣
Remember when GM said in their commercials... "GMC, we are professional grade" ... I guess the engineering department designing the parts didn't get the memo, or they did and the "bean counting" department shredded it. Just sayin!
@@jimandnena4 sad that they leave them modules out in the open. What they thinking no water or etc cant get to that module ? Like smh. i know what it is. $$$$$$$$$ breaks down they think you would bring it back to the dealer so they can sucker money off of you. If they placed this inside i bet the problem wouldnt happen.
What they meant was the commercial was professional grade, the other parts and junk aren’t even remotely close to withstand the conditions of New York State and the salt on the roads. Eric’s whole demeanor changes when the spare tire was removed without a cutting torch! He’s excited about that he’s no longer cursed! He’s living right! Southern mechanics be like what’s so important about the spare tire and what’s he going on about??!
No doubt about it, Eric's channel is one of my favorites. He so reminds me of my brother-in-law who owned a Gulf station and was loved by his customers before he passed away.
@@SaltMinerOU812 I'm beginning to think there is a sting setup going on. He gets a missing fuse nothing wrong, Ivan gets a missing fuse nothing wrong. Iven gets a pump module, Eric gets a pump module.
I enjoy these videos. My 2007 Silverado looks so much better underneath than so many GM trucks repaired on here. Despite 17 years of driving in the salt belt. GM must be making their vehicles more and more cheaply. The rust is ridiculous.
I am now retired, but in 1981 I bought a new Buick and it acted this way most of the time, especially in the winter. I think that it is part of their charm 🙂.
Eric O’…You are living right! It took me 2 days to get the spare tire down. I took the Driveshaft out to get to the tank connections easier and chased my truck down the driveway. Whatever you do, do not stand on a 5-gallon bucket!!
Once again, very informative. Glad you didn't take the short cut and go right to the fuel pump. Watching you go step by step is always helpful. One person's perspective, GM is an unannounced sponsor of SMA given the number of GM vehicles that get deposited in your shop. 😊
On these things the fuel pump module is usually the shortcut, because they're garbage. I was actually surprised when the module worked, their cases tend to rot straight through and then the board gets nuked.
Thank you God! The tank isn't FULL! When the test proved the pump was bad, I immediately thought "Watch. It's a full tank!" Why is it replacing an in tank pump comes with a full tank whereas other repairs needing that first road test come with little or no fuel! Anyway, good testing to locate the problem.
Great diagnosis. I have replaced my rotted out silverado pump by lifting the body up on the left side and propping it up with a 2 x 4. Remove 4 left bed bolts, loosen 4 right bed bolts, filler neck hose and left tail lamp assembly. Very easy. Kind Regards. Craig
Last time I replaced a fuel pump was on my 1999 Silverado and I only replaced it because the fuel gauge was not working. I actually tilted the bed which was not that bad. I don't have a shop or a lift so it was the easiest way and worked great.
Awe !! Sweet Luna the cat so so adorable !! Yeah Chevy and there darn fuel pumps I had just filled up and mine went out and i knew almost instantly darn the luck !!!
Saw Wilbert’s from I-86 today and wondered if the SMA crew needed an ice cream delivery during this heat wave. Then I decided stopping unannounced was rude. Sorry Eric; here is the best I can do. 🍦🍦🍦
"A one for the money. Two for the show". Next time you do a Fonzarelli, have that play when you bump the tank. Then, strut into the office and "Yo, Mrs. O!!" Stay gold.
The real treat was on the 90s S10, Ah yes the joy of lifting up/or removing bed.. luckily I had a cherry picker, unbolted and lifted, Replaced said pump and dropped bed down. Ah I miss those days.
Just replaced the fuel pump on my '06 Caravan. Made certain the tank was close to empty. Broke off the vent hose at the tank end taking it down and found that it was irreplaceable (NLA). A buddy of mine rigged a fix using a cut-off rivet to bridge the gap and some super glue. You need three hands to reinstall the tank if you're doing it on the ground. Make certain you disconnect the well-hidden vent pipe before you drop the tank.
I didn't think the connector on the tank was that accessible either. If a person doesn't have a bidirectional scanner they could just cycle the key or crank it to confirm the circuit. Good diagnosis.
Something I’ve done for years is to never let the fuel tank get below 1/4 full. I think it extends the life of the pump by not letting it run dry briefly around corners and maybe hard braking or acceleration.
This is why I like my Honda Odyssey. There's an access panel through the floor to the top of the fuel tank. Bada bing bada boom. No need to lower the tank at all!
As a former WNY resident living in the South, it still shocks me to see how bad it looks under an 8 year old truck! Seriously, my son's 1982 C10 still has the markings from the factory on it's frame. I know, you are jealous! I hate truck fuel pump replacement time. My favorite method is to take the bed off and replace from above. I absolutely hate dropping tanks. Can't wait to see the fun you will have if you get the job to replace this pump. I mean how hard would it be to add a fuel pump door in the bed??? Thanks for all you do. I learn so much from you!
my dad had this issue. Water got to the plug and popped the fuse up front. I helped him through my phone while working and he fixed it. Sad that they cant put a shield or something around them or better location for it. only way i knew it was the module was from watching your videos !!! These remind me of hondas with the relay to control fuel pump , ecu and ignition
Worked at a shop. Yes, every car with a dead fuel pump was FULL, anything up to 80 litres. Oh, it gets better, most have no drain bung. Oh, it gets better, some need the tank dropped to even unhook it or begin to siphon it out - no access anywhere else.
My 1990 Nissan, with 975k miles on it, needed a fuel pump just after a fill-up, the next day the starter was replaced. That was the best truck ever 2 parts in almost 100k miles.
After 36yrs in GM engineering, the first thing I do is have someone turn the key while I crawl under and listen for the pump inside the tank as it starts cranking. If no sound I have them cycle the key off, back on & crank again, while I mercilessly wail on the tank with a BFH. It usually starts right up. Then while it's running I tap the fuel system and drain it until it stops running. If there's no Schrader valve then I drop the tank SOME and disconnect the filler hose & siphon as much gas out as I can. 2 Things: 1). There is a very nifty 5 or 6 foot clear siphon tube w/ a "shaker" foot valve sold at Napa, Autozone & hardware stores that makes siphoning a cinch. 2). Engineers do not have the latitude everyone thinks. Just like you they have to answer to management. Management AWAYS has the last word. So please stop trying to blame engineers ITS BAD MANAGEMENT!
Scammers are out, I got a facebook request from Eric main south, just a scammer using your page to look like you, I called you and left a warning, stay safe
Oh man...that frame. And after only 8 years. I'm looking at it thinking "sure you can replace a part but what do you mount it to???" I'm so lucky to live in Virginia.
One nice thing about living in the PRNY is that the bed on your pickemup will rot out and you can replace it with a flatbed. If you're smart you make it easy to remove (pickup camper jacks) and you can do everything from above.
Luv the Mrs O comment, don’t say it out loud❤, amazing the junk parts in the new trucks, my 05 coly has original fuel pump with 185, 000 , whoops now that I mentioned it I’m doomed, but I didn’t say it out loud 😅thanks for posting
Replaced my fuel pump last year on a f150. Worked with brake cleaner. Used the pump relay with a wire and it did not prime. Bought an OEM-one at rockauto for 44 euro. Took 6 bolts out of the bed and replaced the pump from the upper side. The pump was 22 years old, so it was time.
Ivan (Pine Hollow) had a different Chevy video he posted only 10 hours prior with a similar problem... (On his one, the pump was still running, but only pushing 25PSI instead of the desired 60PSI)
In all honesty, I’m that guy! But, my fuel pump went out at the gas pump. I hear that the cold fuel can piss those pumps off when it’s 100° outside. It also pisses off a station manager while your truck sits in front of their pump for an hour as you wait for a tow truck. Too bad I don’t have Luna to do a cat scan of my vehicle before I leave in the morning. PS Mr. O, I was able to diagnose my problem perfectly from one of your past videos. Saved me a $120 diagnosis fee! I just didn’t want to deal with a full tank of gas in my driveway.
@@jeff-r9zcould possibly be. The bed was rhino lined, and honestly didn’t want to deal with it. Saw a cool trick to cut a hole in the bed as well, but didn’t want to saw 😂
Yeah Eric you must be living right! Those spare tires get stuck here in sunny South Carolina get enough dirt in them same as rust! You're stranded on the side of the road and can't get your spare tire out!
Hi at the beginning of the video u mentioned that his air bag light was on , hope u show that video that's the problem Im having thanks for all of the videos
Those models (and Tahoe, Suburban) have an issue of a wire rubbing through on the inside of the seat causing the airbag light. You need to remove the side cover (closest to the door) and see if any wires are pinched or broken.
Love watching your video's. Very informative. Any videos out there showcasing your formal training? Where to learn and expand our knowledge? Thanks in advance.
If we look at the fuel pump control module installation on the truck you can see GM located the fuel pump control module underneath the vehicle without a protective sealed box with the module connector facing forward un-protected in the direction of oncoming salt spray in the winter time in NY. This is just crazy. The module connector wire seals are not designed for high pressure direct impinging salt spray. If the module was turned 180 degrees the harness could enter with the connector seals facing rearward which would prevent direct impingement salt spray. From an electrical engineering vehicle EMC standpoint for fuel pump PWM current control (pump speed / flow control) you would want to locate the fuel pump control module near the in-tank fuel pump, which GM has done, but you would not leave the module and its connector / harness unprotected from the salt spray. The fuel pump module must have a heatsink, either case to air (like you see on the vehicle), or case to steel body (direct contact which would be more effective), but should have a protective enclosure around the module to protect it from salt spray where the harness(s) access from the side(s) through a grommet(s), for example. If I owned the truck I would probably make my own protective box for the fuel pump module and harness. I would make it out of aluminum (5052-h32 welded seam sheet metal which would also make a good heatsink).
I've been following Eric for 8 years now and did I see in the reflection in the bumper that he had shorts on? I don't think I had ever seen him in anything but long pants. It must be hot there. He had his Wilbert's shirt on; I thought we would get to go to Wilbert's and do some Tundra time. Henry Winkler's character could usually fix a car with just a slap of the hand. GREAT VIDEO!
That’s going to be a big quote. Fuel pump alone is $400. I’ve found that on mine I can take the bolts out of the spare tire holder and the bed and lift the bed up on the opposite side of the filler tube and change the fuel pump.
I have done this on a 91 F-150 and it was super easy. I did it a second time when the other tank pump failed. I am going to see if my '15 Silverado could be done that way.
Instead of dropping the tank out why not lift the bed off The frame using your lift? Wouldn't that be better than replacing the tank straps and the hassle of dropping the tank down. And you're 100% correct gm is notorious for the fuel pump quitting on a full tank, it's happened to me more than a few times with my Chevy Astro van and those are no joy removing the tank without a lift .
Thank you for sharing another great diagnostic video. "Ewe" and "Ruf" - excellent descriptive words to describe GM engineering that includes built in obsolescence guaranteed! Electric vehicles will be the worlds salvation - not in the salt belt areas I'm afraid.
PHAD just put up a similar video where the tank pump would only put out 25 psi and a swishing sound inside the tank. The owner replaced the pump later and all was good.
Just changed my fuel pump out in April. Ran great, stopped at the mailbox, hit the key and no go. pulled her back to the house and to the shop. I chose to break the bed loose instead of dropping the tank. Can be done, but was kind of a pain in the butt.
The amount of rot under these NY vehicles never ceases to amaze me. I've lived my whole life in Michigan and northern Indiana, places with real winters that use salt and I have never seen anything like the rot on the vehicles that come into South Main.
I live in the same county as SMA, and we are downwind from the Great Lakes. All it takes is a NW winter wind, and we have snow. It might not be much, but it’s enough to bring the salt trucks out.
Some people will never understand the excitement of getting to replace a fuel pump in a vehicle that isn't full.
Honestly
That is a rainbow unicorn! Capture it and see if we can replicate it!
I have never done a fuel pump unless it's full. Thanks Mr O!
Most of the time, customers bring in cars for repair with a nearly empty tank. Have to put gas in before road test(s).
Hard to keep a full tank with some of the gas prices lately.
@@Richard-or2km agreed
"It doesn't feel like a red lock; it feels like a gray one." And *THAT,* folks, is how you know you're dealing with an experienced mechanic. Knows by *feel* what the different connectors are.
Expert level: ∞
I live 30 miles from the GM World Headquarters. I live 40 miles from the GM Tech Center where all their engineering is done. I have lived in this house 40 years. Our winters are identical to Eric's. It is incomprehensible to me that they design and build those drop down spare tires. They will not work if rusted, and the engineers place them out in the open under the vehicle where winter salt can splash on them. It is incomprehensible to me that they design those fuel pumps to sit in a depression on top of the tank, where any salt water thrown up during our Michigan winters will remain for ever. The salt can never ever get away, and is available to cause damage every single day it is wet year round. Just invert the depression to a mound. You will get the same strength benefit, but the water will flow away.
Maybe they should put one of those lawnmower deck clean out spickets above it!! Remember when Ford put a padlock on their spares!!
Engineers design these for manufacturability and minimum cost. They never work on them or expect them to function beyond the factory warranty period. What a sad state of affairs and an enormous waste of resources to crush 10 yo vehicles and make new ones…
I grew up in Novi, MI and have also lived just North of Eric in Rochester New York. For whatever reason the rust is far worse in New York. Can’t really explain why though.
They engineer it to fail so they can sell Eric O the parts to fix it. MONEY!! 🙄
My 02 f250 has a poly tank with a big poly lock nut.
Vanessa didn’t seem as impressed by the fact that the spare came down without any fight as she should’ve been😂 you are definitely living right with that one.
Mrs O is tired of hearing how amazing Eric is. I built
My wife the house we live in, I get no credit for it, she is too used to what I can do. My customers on the other hand are very vocal about it and are floored my wife is so matter
of fact. Maybe the replacement will be better 😉😆
My Dad got bit by the spare tire on his brand new Chevy pickup. He took his new truck to the U.P. in Michigan on a hunting trip. The roads up there in the forest have sharp gravel. Dad got a flat. He went to drop the spare and it wouldn't come down. Something about a safety latch so the spare doesn't fall out when driving down the road. He followed the instructions to the letter but couldn't trip the safety latch. He started hoofing it back to town. Another hunter gave him a lift. For some reason they have a holiday where no businesses open until noon on that day. Once the garage opened the tow truck retrieved his truck. The mechanic got the spare down. That evening Dad was talking with a fellow hunter who owned a new Ford pickup. He said he got a flat and couldn't get his spare to lower. The guy wasn't about to hoof it back to town. He had a chain and wrapped it around the spare, tied off to a tree and used that Ford power to rip the spare out from under the truck! 🤣🤣
This man is one of the best at diagnosing the problem. It’s great to see actual diagnostics. Thank you.
Remember when GM said in their commercials... "GMC, we are professional grade" ... I guess the engineering department designing the parts didn't get the memo, or they did and the "bean counting" department shredded it. Just sayin!
Bean counters and the sales department are the shot callers any more. And, MPG is the new Holy Grail.
@@jimandnena4 sad that they leave them modules out in the open. What they thinking no water or etc cant get to that module ? Like smh. i know what it is. $$$$$$$$$ breaks down they think you would bring it back to the dealer so they can sucker money off of you. If they placed this inside i bet the problem wouldnt happen.
Arent you glad we saved gubment motors
I’d vote the ceo. Their only concern is short term stock prices.
What they meant was the commercial was professional grade, the other parts and junk aren’t even remotely close to withstand the conditions of New York State and the salt on the roads. Eric’s whole demeanor changes when the spare tire was removed without a cutting torch!
He’s excited about that he’s no longer cursed! He’s living right!
Southern mechanics be like what’s so important about the spare tire and what’s he going on about??!
No doubt about it, Eric's channel is one of my favorites. He so reminds me of my brother-in-law who owned a Gulf station and was loved by his customers before he passed away.
I recently found your channel, and now I’m addicted to your videos. Especially the diagnostic videos! One of the best automotive channels on UA-cam!
Yeah I've been on this channel for years he is one of the best and I also love the diagnostic videos
I've been subscribed for at least two years and Eric is a fantastic diagnostic technician! He's definitely one of the best I've ever seen!!
@@SaltMinerOU812 I'm beginning to think there is a sting setup going on. He gets a missing fuse nothing wrong, Ivan gets a missing fuse nothing wrong. Iven gets a pump module, Eric gets a pump module.
There are a lot of SMA addicts here. It only gets worse the more you watch - you've been warned!
Holy CRAP at that level of rust on a truck less than a decade old... WOW.
Either he has so much money he doesn't care or so broke he can't spend 50 bucks every two years to spray it himself .
Welcome to New York State. Vehicles start rusting at around 2-3 years old due to the exorbitant amount of salt on the roads in the winter
12 to 16 years is pretty average before the rust takes them, if you aren't very dillegent about preventing it.
Live in Indiana and my 03 Silverado has less rust than this truck
I live in Las Vegas, NV, my 2007 G6 rust is free.
I enjoy these videos. My 2007 Silverado looks so much better underneath than so many GM trucks repaired on here. Despite 17 years of driving in the salt belt. GM must be making their vehicles more and more cheaply. The rust is ridiculous.
This generation of GM truck never fails to.impress with its mechanical failures one after another.
Another helpful troubleshooting video from Mr. O!! Luna is patiently waiting for you to let her back into the office, and didn't want to interrupt.
She thinking bahbahbah bah bah, come on open the door!
I appreciate your efforts to try to save the customer money
I have a used '15 Silverado, 89K. I'm hoping that I never need this excellent information, but I am grateful that you have provided it. Thank you.
I am now retired, but in 1981 I bought a new Buick and it acted this way most of the time, especially in the winter. I think that it is part of their charm 🙂.
i love the way you determine the color by feel😅
Like my old mechanic used to say " these things are made to sell, not work on" 🤣
lot of truth in that
Always a pleasure to see Mrs o and little Luna..😊
Eric O’…You are living right! It took me 2 days to get the spare tire down. I took the Driveshaft out to get to the tank connections easier and chased my truck down the driveway. Whatever you do, do not stand on a 5-gallon bucket!!
Once again, very informative. Glad you didn't take the short cut and go right to the fuel pump. Watching you go step by step is always helpful.
One person's perspective, GM is an unannounced sponsor of SMA given the number of GM vehicles that get deposited in your shop. 😊
car wizard wont even work on american crap any more.
On these things the fuel pump module is usually the shortcut, because they're garbage. I was actually surprised when the module worked, their cases tend to rot straight through and then the board gets nuked.
Ivan just did one of these too. It was the pump as well. Great diag Eric O......
I was just thinking the same thing. Seems like he probed the same wires, etc. I think the one he did was a 2017; looks to be the same.
Thank you God! The tank isn't FULL!
When the test proved the pump was bad, I immediately thought "Watch. It's a full tank!"
Why is it replacing an in tank pump comes with a full tank whereas other repairs needing that first road test come with little or no fuel!
Anyway, good testing to locate the problem.
Every time you show the underside of the new vehicles you work on I am amazed by the rust.
Thanks for taking the time and taking us along see ya on the fix
Watched Ivan troubleshoot one of these this morning for this issue.
Happy Monday Mr O hope you had a good Father’s Day.
Wow! Incredible what new york state winters are capable of. 😢
When a person is color blind how else do you tell colors? You feel it. Great stuff.
05:38 - I didn't know they raised the Titanic! Aw Lawd that is one rusty 2016.
Great diagnosis. I have replaced my rotted out silverado pump by lifting the body up on the left side and propping it up with a 2 x 4.
Remove 4 left bed bolts, loosen 4 right bed bolts, filler neck hose and left tail lamp assembly. Very easy. Kind Regards. Craig
Eric...”nope, this guy might not be livin right” 🤣😂 You made me choke on a sesame stick! 😅😂
Coincidence. Today I watched Eric's video on replacing the fuel pump control module on a Canyon. Rotted in half.
Last time I replaced a fuel pump was on my 1999 Silverado and I only replaced it because the fuel gauge was not working. I actually tilted the bed which was not that bad. I don't have a shop or a lift so it was the easiest way and worked great.
Loved watching your buddy Luna chasing something. God bless GMC
Awe !! Sweet Luna the cat so so adorable !! Yeah Chevy and there darn fuel pumps I had just filled up and mine went out and i knew almost instantly darn the luck !!!
Saw Wilbert’s from I-86 today and wondered if the SMA crew needed an ice cream delivery during this heat wave. Then I decided stopping unannounced was rude. Sorry Eric; here is the best I can do. 🍦🍦🍦
"A one for the money. Two for the show". Next time you do a Fonzarelli, have that play when you bump the tank.
Then, strut into the office and "Yo, Mrs. O!!"
Stay gold.
The real treat was on the 90s S10, Ah yes the joy of lifting up/or removing bed.. luckily I had a cherry picker, unbolted and lifted,
Replaced said pump and dropped bed down. Ah I miss those days.
Just replaced the fuel pump on my '06 Caravan. Made certain the tank was close to empty. Broke off the vent hose at the tank end taking it down and found that it was irreplaceable (NLA). A buddy of mine rigged a fix using a cut-off rivet to bridge the gap and some super glue. You need three hands to reinstall the tank if you're doing it on the ground. Make certain you disconnect the well-hidden vent pipe before you drop the tank.
I count my lucky stars that our 09 ram is just purring along with 229,000 miles without electrical gremlins
Gotta be allot on you running a business and cranking out content for us. Just want to say its much appreciated
Great call on the gray tab, Eric O seeer of colors, master of the money light, protector from rust! lol
I didn't think the connector on the tank was that accessible either. If a person doesn't have a bidirectional scanner they could just cycle the key or crank it to confirm the circuit. Good diagnosis.
The ol' PWM to the fuel pump trick. An easy way to confuse it as intermittent.
I sure am glad you finally quit bumping into me when we're working underneath a truck.
One of the first SMA videos I ever watched was Eric pulling a tank on a red Chevy pickup many moons ago. I was hooked! 😊
Something I’ve done for years is to never let the fuel tank get below 1/4 full. I think it extends the life of the pump by not letting it run dry briefly around corners and maybe hard braking or acceleration.
This is why I like my Honda Odyssey. There's an access panel through the floor to the top of the fuel tank. Bada bing bada boom. No need to lower the tank at all!
It's gotten bad: Now I yell 'CHEVROLET!' anytime I see a Chevy driving around town.
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"We got us a 2005 SHIVVERLAY!"
I've done a couple on the grass. Such a pleasure to watch Eric. Thanks
As a former WNY resident living in the South, it still shocks me to see how bad it looks under an 8 year old truck! Seriously, my son's 1982 C10 still has the markings from the factory on it's frame. I know, you are jealous! I hate truck fuel pump replacement time. My favorite method is to take the bed off and replace from above. I absolutely hate dropping tanks. Can't wait to see the fun you will have if you get the job to replace this pump. I mean how hard would it be to add a fuel pump door in the bed??? Thanks for all you do. I learn so much from you!
Been your content for years now EO. Thanks for all the info! You have helped me for years...thank you brother! Blessings to you, and your family ❤
my dad had this issue. Water got to the plug and popped the fuse up front. I helped him through my phone while working and he fixed it. Sad that they cant put a shield or something around them or better location for it. only way i knew it was the module was from watching your videos !!! These remind me of hondas with the relay to control fuel pump , ecu and ignition
Worked at a shop. Yes, every car with a dead fuel pump was FULL, anything up to 80 litres. Oh, it gets better, most have no drain bung. Oh, it gets better, some need the tank dropped to even unhook it or begin to siphon it out - no access anywhere else.
My 1990 Nissan, with 975k miles on it, needed a fuel pump just after a fill-up, the next day the starter was replaced. That was the best truck ever 2 parts in almost 100k miles.
After 36yrs in GM engineering, the first thing I do is have someone turn the key while I crawl under and listen for the pump inside the tank as it starts cranking. If no sound I have them cycle the key off, back on & crank again, while I mercilessly wail on the tank with a BFH. It usually starts right up. Then while it's running I tap the fuel system and drain it until it stops running. If there's no Schrader valve then I drop the tank SOME and disconnect the filler hose & siphon as much gas out as I can. 2 Things: 1). There is a very nifty 5 or 6 foot clear siphon tube w/ a "shaker" foot valve sold at Napa, Autozone & hardware stores that makes siphoning a cinch. 2). Engineers do not have the latitude everyone thinks. Just like you they have to answer to management. Management AWAYS has the last word. So please stop trying to blame engineers ITS BAD MANAGEMENT!
OF everything I do on cars, fuel pumps it what I hate the most. Especially when you only have jack stands. Nice, quick video.
Feeling colors on connector locks is one of the funniest things I’ve heard you say.
Scammers are out, I got a facebook request from Eric main south, just a scammer using your page to look like you, I called you and left a warning, stay safe
Oh man...that frame. And after only 8 years. I'm looking at it thinking "sure you can replace a part but what do you mount it to???"
I'm so lucky to live in Virginia.
One nice thing about living in the PRNY is that the bed on your pickemup will rot out and you can replace it with a flatbed. If you're smart you make it easy to remove (pickup camper jacks) and you can do everything from above.
Luv the Mrs O comment, don’t say it out loud❤, amazing the junk parts in the new trucks, my 05 coly has original fuel pump with 185, 000 , whoops now that I mentioned it I’m doomed, but I didn’t say it out loud 😅thanks for posting
Jinx better go buy one now
Thank God I moved from the rust belt to NC , that underside don't look good for it's age , car work is a breeze down here if you can stand the heat
Replaced my fuel pump last year on a f150. Worked with brake cleaner. Used the pump relay with a wire and it did not prime. Bought an OEM-one at rockauto for 44 euro. Took 6 bolts out of the bed and replaced the pump from the upper side. The pump was 22 years old, so it was time.
Ivan (Pine Hollow) had a different Chevy video he posted only 10 hours prior with a similar problem...
(On his one, the pump was still running, but only pushing 25PSI instead of the desired 60PSI)
In all honesty, I’m that guy! But, my fuel pump went out at the gas pump. I hear that the cold fuel can piss those pumps off when it’s 100° outside. It also pisses off a station manager while your truck sits in front of their pump for an hour as you wait for a tow truck. Too bad I don’t have Luna to do a cat scan of my vehicle before I leave in the morning.
PS Mr. O, I was able to diagnose my problem perfectly from one of your past videos. Saved me a $120 diagnosis fee! I just didn’t want to deal with a full tank of gas in my driveway.
Just get a buddy to help you slide the bed back and change it from up top. Much easier that way. The beds aren’t near as heavy as they used to be.
Why would station "Station" manager get mad? Never heard that before
@@weldingjunkiea gas station? I dunno, maybe all their stalls were full and others waiting. Pretty embarrassing to me at the time. You dummy.
@@jeff-r9zcould possibly be. The bed was rhino lined, and honestly didn’t want to deal with it. Saw a cool trick to cut a hole in the bed as well, but didn’t want to saw 😂
@@weldingjunkiemaybe the pump is blocked??? Pretty embarrassing when you’re sitting there. Do you not get what I was writing?
Yeah Eric you must be living right! Those spare tires get stuck here in sunny South Carolina get enough dirt in them same as rust! You're stranded on the side of the road and can't get your spare tire out!
Thought I was having de ja vu! I think Pine Hollow did a very similar issue yesterday
Of course Dr O correctly diagnosed the patient!
I don’t know what kind of deicer New York uses on the roads, but by the looks of the underside of that Sierra it’s some gnarly stuff!
I hope the customer gives you the go-ahead on this repair; I want to see how a pro drops the tank....
Seeing all that rust makes me happy I live in Alberta.
South Main ---- there are 2 streets in town Main and Plum, when you past Main you are Plum out of town! hehe!
Hi at the beginning of the video u mentioned that his air bag light was on , hope u show that video that's the problem Im having thanks for all of the videos
Those models (and Tahoe, Suburban) have an issue of a wire rubbing through on the inside of the seat causing the airbag light. You need to remove the side cover (closest to the door) and see if any wires are pinched or broken.
Love watching your video's. Very informative. Any videos out there showcasing your formal training? Where to learn and expand our knowledge? Thanks in advance.
First we check the fuel gauge?
Is the gauge lying?
Oh, look at that…
It’s out of fuel!
🤣🤣🤣
I love seeing Luna, the mobile "catscan"!😂😂😂😂❤❤❤
Dueling GM fuel faults. Ivan just posted a similar problem on a similar GM truck.
Eric and Ivan, Ivan and Eric, it’s a tossup on who is better. I just wish either one was closer to where I live.
The guy with a lift and a full shop of tools can work a lot more efficiently.
If we look at the fuel pump control module installation on the truck you can see GM located the fuel pump control module underneath the vehicle without a protective sealed box with the module connector facing forward un-protected in the direction of oncoming salt spray in the winter time in NY. This is just crazy. The module connector wire seals are not designed for high pressure direct impinging salt spray. If the module was turned 180 degrees the harness could enter with the connector seals facing rearward which would prevent direct impingement salt spray.
From an electrical engineering vehicle EMC standpoint for fuel pump PWM current control (pump speed / flow control) you would want to locate the fuel pump control module near the in-tank fuel pump, which GM has done, but you would not leave the module and its connector / harness unprotected from the salt spray. The fuel pump module must have a heatsink, either case to air (like you see on the vehicle), or case to steel body (direct contact which would be more effective), but should have a protective enclosure around the module to protect it from salt spray where the harness(s) access from the side(s) through a grommet(s), for example. If I owned the truck I would probably make my own protective box for the fuel pump module and harness. I would make it out of aluminum (5052-h32 welded seam sheet metal which would also make a good heatsink).
I've been following Eric for 8 years now and did I see in the reflection in the bumper that he had shorts on? I don't think I had ever seen him in anything but long pants. It must be hot there. He had his Wilbert's shirt on; I thought we would get to go to Wilbert's and do some Tundra time. Henry Winkler's character could usually fix a car with just a slap of the hand. GREAT VIDEO!
Eric mostly works on broken Chevys but he drives a Toyota Tundra. I think that speaks for itself.
I'm not a fool 😂
My Tundra is 21 years old still has its original fuel pump .
Better for narrow back roads too.
Yes, it is a 2020; not a new one because he's not a fool.
That’s going to be a big quote. Fuel pump alone is $400. I’ve found that on mine I can take the bolts out of the spare tire holder and the bed and lift the bed up on the opposite side of the filler tube and change the fuel pump.
I’m wondering what purple feels like. Sounds exciting!
I used to loosen the bed bolts and tilt the bed to replace the fuel pump.
I have done this on a 91 F-150 and it was super easy. I did it a second time when the other tank pump failed. I am going to see if my '15 Silverado could be done that way.
Instead of dropping the tank out why not lift the bed off The frame using your lift? Wouldn't that be better than replacing the tank straps and the hassle of dropping the tank down. And you're 100% correct gm is notorious for the fuel pump quitting on a full tank, it's happened to me more than a few times with my Chevy Astro van and those are no joy removing the tank without a lift .
Providing the fasteners are not rusted tight...the more you touch the more risk for breakage in rusty vehicles.
I love every video. Keep making them for a very long time.... THANK YOU!
Thank you for sharing another great diagnostic video. "Ewe" and "Ruf" - excellent descriptive words to describe GM engineering that includes built in obsolescence guaranteed! Electric vehicles will be the worlds salvation - not in the salt belt areas I'm afraid.
Ivan's latest video was working on the same module :) SNAP
PHAD just put up a similar video where the tank pump would only put out 25 psi and a swishing sound inside the tank. The owner replaced the pump later and all was good.
suprised it wasn't rotted and leaking on the top of the tank yet . we do those weekly for "fuel smell" lol
Closing in on a million subscribers🎉
Just changed my fuel pump out in April. Ran great, stopped at the mailbox, hit the key and no go. pulled her back to the house and to the shop. I chose to break the bed loose instead of dropping the tank. Can be done, but was kind of a pain in the butt.
The amount of rot under these NY vehicles never ceases to amaze me. I've lived my whole life in Michigan and northern Indiana, places with real winters that use salt and I have never seen anything like the rot on the vehicles that come into South Main.
Same here in eastern Ontario. Krown rustproofing is common here and maybe colder temperatures make a difference.
I live in the same county as SMA, and we are downwind from the Great Lakes. All it takes is a NW winter wind, and we have snow. It might not be much, but it’s enough to bring the salt trucks out.
Good afternoon Eric. Tennessee here.
Just finished watching Ivan work on fuel supply troubles on a '17 Silverado...
nice to see your cat again
Looking forward to part II Eric. Whatever happened to the young lady who use to be around your shop? Did she pursue an automotive career?
Sometimes you need the best tools like a 4 amp headlight bulb, socket, and leads. 😁