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The solution is very simple. All the Diamondbacks have to do is buy the stadium, pay for all the repairs, future maintenance and property taxes with their own money, then they can keep all the profits for themselves! Isn't Capitalism wonderful?!
Oh not to mention, as someone who lives in Phoenix it’s kinda hard to watch the DBacks when the black out every game. Genuinely haven’t seen a game on TV in 3 years.
It makes me so mad that the team I grew up with, I physically cannot watch them, they should remove black outs but money is more important that fan retention these days
I went to the ball park shortly after it opened. The roof was open before the game, and 10 minutes before the game, they closed the roof and the AC cooled the place down in 15 minutes. This was in the middle of the summer with it 115+ outside. Hard to believe this can’t be fixed easy.
As someone who lives in Phoenix, downtown is a great location these days. There’s so many bars and restaurants and fun things to do there. It’s really turned around well coming out of the pandemic.
He's right. Downtown Phoenix is the place these days. With the University and all the new places in the uptown, midtown and downtown areas, it's a pretty good location. The ballpark is on the 'off side' of what's going on downtown, but a good 'park' could change that. And if the city is going to finance it, why not insist on a nice chunk of equity in the franchise?
@@NHLUtahPlainBagelyou haven’t been downtown by the stadium lately then. It’s clean it’s thriving tons of restaurants tons of nightlife and a lot of great housing downtown now.
The AC isn’t the issue. It’s the roof. I’ve been near the field and it’s nice and cool.. i’ve also been at the highest seats and was sweating like a pig. If they fix the roof then it’ll be better. Having a retractable roof in the desert was probably the dumbest idea ever.
@@jtrades2134they can just leave it closed forever. Cardinals stadium is also retractable. In any indoor place with A/C and heat outside, u will feel more hot near the roof but is not cuz of the roof but the A/C wich can't cool the whole place, cooler air will be near the floor always for being more heavy air
The courts ruled the D-Backs are responsible for the upkeep of the stadium according to the lease they signed. It appears to me they didn't do the maintenance, so the club is in breach of contract. If they leave the AZ taxpayers must be made whole and we should get a check for their breach of contract. Why didnt the D-backs simply bribe the counsel like the Suns did?
As a Cubs fan it blows my mind that a team that wasn't around when I was a kid, has the 4th oldest stadium in the NL, I don't see how fans don't riot when owners want to just get a new stadium, you can't get the history that some place like Wrigley or Fenway have. As a Cubs fan i'm 99.999% sure we will never leave Wrigley unless there is something that can't be fixed.
3rd oldest is Coors Field. As crappy as the Rockies are. The way the Stadium was financed forces the team to invest in the bldg for capital improvements. It’s hard to believe Coors field will be 30 years old next year still feels new.
So basically these are the same problems that will eventually affect the A's if they move to Vegas because you have to build a more complicated stadium in an extreme environment like a desert rather than an area with good climate like Oakland. John Fisher is so stupid.
The Raiders stadium has a fixed roof with state of the art air conditioning. Pretty sure an A's stadium would be similar, if less expensive, despite what John Fisher would want to go cheap on.
Personally, Wrigley Field and Fenway Park are both over 100 years old. Dodger Stadium is also over 65 years of age. Why not a 50 year lease? Yeah, they want a district.. Big deal, I want a 8 figure salary too. Teams just are not content with what they have. I find it funny that a team won't drop a dime for a stadium, but to build a district that they don't control and won't directly see a dime they'll drop quite a few. I personally believe, call their bluff and if they leave.. slam the door on them and move on. If they want it, they are welcome to build it themselves... just like SoFi... Chase field is not that old.. Stadiums today have the life expectancy of an average house cat. Back when teams built them themselves, they had the life expectancy of well over 50 years. Teams are out of control and the faster cities and states start making them build and own their venues... the better this world will be.
The thing with Fenway, Dodger Stadium, and Wrigley is that they were built so long ago and each of these venues did things to maintain the park. Fenway did it the best being proactive at the turn of the Century, Wrigley did it just in time with cheap owners, I can't speak as much to Dodger Stadium as I haven't been there but the ballpark is not in any danger of being shut down. Since Camden Yards newer ballparks were built and looked nice on day 1. However after the large price tag to build these stadiums were done there was no long term plan to account for the cost to maintain them and upgrade tech. Hence you have situations with retractable roofs like in Milwaukee and now Arizona. You have more under the radar but required upkeep at the taxpayers expense like Seattle, Baltimore, and Cleveland. More sports venues need to be built and funded mostly by owners like Gillette Stadium in Massachusetts where Kraft use very little taxpayer funded $ and continues to fund most of the maintenance and upgrades to the venue himself making it viable no matter what comes next. Nowadays a venue is built at an expensive price and then 5-10 years later the ownership threatens to move to Nashville or another emerging market if the taxpayers don't fund it and the taxpayers are still paying off the original venue!
@@MrRicklynch57 oh yeah I am well aware I grew up in the 90s in CT but have family in Boston and go to Fenway yearly. The investment in the ballpark + the fact they could remove temp press boxes from the 99’ ASG for more seating is why it wasn’t knocked down like Comiskey and other ballparks.
@@concertvids34 There is one thing I've noticed. The venues falling into disrepair the fastest all have one thing in common.. retractable roofs... They started with Montreals Stade Olympique and later skydome (Rogers center I think now) and I'd be hard pressed to see one that has not had some issues and when they do, most just close the lid and leave it closed. Funny how long the open-air stadiums have lasted (well, except in Atlanta.. 20-30 years they have to have a new venue).. Also, in the past as recent as the 70's... things were built to last. Now everything is built so poorly that they fall apart way before they should. it's not just venues and buildings, but TV's and Fridges too. Even our cars.are built to fall apart at 10 years.
It was by far my least favorite!! I’ve been to almost every park (haven’t been to the Bay teams or Seattle & new Braves, Rangers but was at their old ones) I’ve been to Chase Field 2x & it felt like I was in a giant empty cave. It’s dark, dingy & little to nothing special inside or outside. They should take away seats, add numerous windows, add more local culinary stands & use green A/C & other utilities to save money in the long run.
Ballpark sustainment and maintenance is a touchy issue throughout MLB and MiLB teams. Cities will build new stadiums to LAND a team but won't spend another cent maintaining them as there are always more important issues on a city's budget like filling potholes. While teams will sign 30 year long term leases, teams expect the landlord to sustain and improve the property if the city desires the team to sign a new lease to keep their teams. Unfortunately while the ballpark may still stand after 30 years, the stuff behind the walls don't. Plumbing, rest room fixtures, seats, HVAC systems, sound systems, television and radio facilities, concession stand grills, coolers, and freezers, basically the ballpark's guts require upgrades or downright replacing. The ballpark belongs to the landlord, not the tenant. After paying rent and paying the staff to operate the ballparks, repairing equipment during that time, teams expect the landlord to upgrade and refurbish the ballparks, especially when the lease expires.... If the city doesn't, well, other cities have better ballparks or will build a new ballpark to LAND a team...
100% facts, teams need to have contracts that if the city owns a stadium they are required to maintain it properly and spell out properly in extreme detail
@@deanfirnatine7814 I know when I rented a apartment when I was yourng, I didn't mind replacing light bulbs, but I expected my landlord to to replace the hot water tank when it expired, ditto with the refrigerator and furnace. I have had to replace in my senior years in my home the roof and furnace/air conditioner, they are NOT cheap and I had to get a bank loan... Lucky for me that isn't a problem with my bank, but many who rent do have problems arranging a bank loan...
I’ve been to chase field before and I had a great experience there last year. Love their dimensions. The ballpark is easily accessible in downtown and they have a light rail stop by it. As a New Yorker I really got around well in PHX just using their light rail and buses .. even to go hiking in rural areas such as south mountain. Pretty underrated city when it comes to public transportation. It’s definitely a cavernous ballpark and I can see some changes being done to their upper deck seats or dead center field as they’re no seats there but to keep it real this ballpark gets lots of hate and it’s not even that bad at all. Tropicana field was absolutely terrible. When I went to chase field it was about 85 degrees or so during game time and it dropped to about 75 or so that night so the roof was actually opened up and the AC felt fine. They have large windows 🪟 that open. As a Mets fan I wish them the best. Hopefully they don’t move them out of PHX.
As the summer heat continues to build and set new record highs year after year, close the dang roof and leave it closed and weather proof sealed ( cheapest option to maintaining the old mechanisms) and put in dedicated HVAC that can actually do the job for this building in the ever increasing hostile heat environment. Either that or pull the eject handle and run to a cooler climate .....
Thanks for the Arizona update. Athletics fan that relocated a few years ago from Sactown. Have spring training here and A's games every other year. Brodie, keep up the great work!!!!
I don’t understand how Chase Field is a “bad” location. Living in Phoenix and going to every weekend Dbacks game this season, Chase Field is very easy to get to either driving there or taking the Light Rail. With the Suns Arena next door there is huge potential in downtown Phoenix that the city needs to encourage new development, and losing a sports team down there would detrimental to keeping downtown Phoenix relevant
"Relevant"? The fact is both arenas have had a negligible impact on Downtown. They draw a big crowd that creates a bunch of traffic for a few hours a few evenings a month, with a crowd that comes to the venue and leaves and doesn't stay downtown at all. That's not an economically beneficial crowd and it adds almost nothing to the character, ambience and attractiveness of the area. Nobody hears about the Herberger in the media, and it adds infinitely more to the city than either arena ever has. Ditto for Symphony Hall. Ditto for the Orpheum. I'd venture a guess that the Crescent Ballroom has a more positive impact on downtown than both sports venues, combined. I bet the Van Buren does more for downtown all on its own than the ballpark does, and certainly more than the Suns arena. Maybe the city should consider paying their bills.... 🙄
@@chrisschaller9547 They’re working on it, but they’re still not doing it right. It’s not like they’re aren’t good models out there either. Whoever is managing it just seems a bit backward or boneheaded it seems. The POS approach is just one example. I meet tourists on the tram who ask how do they pay, because they’ve made that awkward, difficult or basically impossible. It’s hard to figure out why they’d make it difficult for people to give them money, but they have. Go figure…
I appreciate the video and the depth with which you covered the situation, but idk if I’d consider downtown Phoenix “mid” anymore. 5+years ago, sure, but it’s very lively these days and provides tons of entertainment options.
This whole problem can be solved in two steps: 1) Buy your own field. 2) Pay for your own maintenance/upgrades. There isn't a valid reason for a municipality to own a stadium in 2024.
3) The team leaves for another city. The city of Phoenix does have a choice. But 2024 Chase Field is owned by Maricopa County and the Diamondbacks are only a tenant. They can leave town and it doesn’t cost them anything to move. Meanwhile Phoenix taxpayers are stuck with an empty stadium.
@@Bk6346 I misunderstood what your initial comment was. I thought you meant that the city/county shouldn’t use taxpayer funds & I said if the city does fund a new ballpark or a reno, there should be a clause in the contract.
@@Bk6346The taxpayers lose money on the stadium every year. An empty stadium that doesn't have to be maintained would actually save money. The D-Backs should BUY the stadium from the county and repair it.
Dodgers were given the land by the city of Los Angeles to build a ballpark and they pay for the maintenance and upkeep of the stadium. Own the land and build it privately for yourself. Giants did the same.
I remember being there a few years ago for the AFL Tripleheader. The roof needed work back then. There were significant sections behind the dish that water was pouring down on (it was raining that day). I asked an attendant and she told me the vendor who could fix it had to come from Canada and at the time Canada wasn't allowing anyone out of the country because of COVID. Doesn't sound like they ever showed up to fix the problem. I'd also find it humorous if the D-Backs ended up using the Coliseum for a few seasons (if it's not razed by then) as a home while they wait for a new stadium to be built in UT. We're about to see a crazy game of musical chairs in the next few years from the looks of it.
One thing you may be overlooking is SLC has a short term solution along with the long term solution. 1st, the Future stadium site is "shovel ready", shortening construction time somewhat. And second the AAA Bees just played their last game at Smith's Ballpark. Not an MLB facility for sure, but a completely viable 1-2 year Short Term solution. That being said, pretty sure they are just using SLC as a negotiating chip.
OMG I did not know Chase Field is the 4th oldest stadium in the NL how time flies and I remember when Shea Stadium first open in 1964 and Shea was the 3rd oldest stadium when it closed after the 2008 season. Cool video big liked!
I've been living in Arizona 40+ years and if another sports team leaves AZ due to sporting venue issues, I'm gonna leave the State myself. I'm so sick of teams relocating. Sports should stick it where the sun doesn't shine on that one!
With the As relocation fee being scrapped by MLB. That now creates a “new normal” so watch out. Other owners might well want the same ? Just a thought ??
Went to two concerts in the last 3 weeks at the stadium. Was in the 300 section at the top, and the ac was great. Haha I could feel it well. Not sure how hot it is at the bottom though 😅
@@alanbiancardi2531 obviously, but with a crowd that big and with the AC being at the top, I’d believe it would be hotter down towards the bottom possibly, but idk.
There is a problem with major sports leagues and their economics. Owners are filthy rich. Players are filthy rich. Ticket prices and concessions are outrageous. But when it comes time to build their palaces, teams require too much from the taxpayers. Had they paid players good but reasonable salaries, had they set aside a good portion of their profits year after year, they could better afford to construct the very buildings they need to operate their lucrative businesses with minimal demands on local taxpayers.
I really think it comes down to greed. Multi-billionaire owners have plenty of access to private capital. Owners would rather not open their wallets when they can get taxpayers to open theirs.
The taxpayers can always say no. Phoenix taxpayers said no to the NHL Coyotes plan for a hockey arena in Tempe. They can also say no to the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Seriously. You want taxpayer funding for the stadium? Okay, I should get free tickets when I show my 1040 at the box office. That's not enough? Okay, let these players make $50 mil instead of $100 mil, and, oh, look, money for a new stadium! They're the ones benefiting from it, so let them pay for it. Or they can leave, who cares. I'd rather watch Major League Wiffleball on UA-cam, guys who play for love of the game, not so they can wear clinky gold chains as they jog down the first base line.
I'm thinking that once the election is over, the issues will be resolved one way or another. As was mentioned in the video, there will be quite a bit of turnover in the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. There's an option that's been floated in the past to build a new ballpark and entertainment district on the Pima-Maricopa Reservation, east of Scottsdale, right next to the D-backs' spring training facility.
Great video. In my opinion, it’s one thing for the Diamondbacks to lose their team to Utah, Nashville, Portland, etc. It’s a whole different thing for the White Sox. There’s no way they leave Chicago, the 3rd largest market still for one of these smaller, triple A markets. Even if they don’t draw fans in Chicago, I would submit they’re financially better off there than those other places.
Why not Indianapolis? It is relatively close to Chicago, and the White Sox would have the entire state of Indiana to themselves rather than competing with the more popular Cubs in Chicago. Also, due its more conservative politics, Indiana is increasing in population, while the population of Illinois is declining.
It's close to freeways and not far from downtown. Perhaps a light rail spur could be added to improve public transit. The fairgrounds date to territorial days. It is an old neighborhood badly in need of revitalization.
Went to a couple of games this year, Chase Field and the downtown idea is an excellent experience. Management needs to commit to winning, not this back-and-forth game that they play.
I think Phoenix Suns owners Mat and Justin Ishbia will purchase the Arizona Diamondbacks from Ken Kendrick for $2.55 billion and prevent them from relocating to Salt Lake City.
Just to get the ownership to pony up for up keep is the pivotal point. Get the AC fixed and get that roof fixed. Ive watched a couple games there like 15 years ago and it was a nice yard. Ive always believed that the teams should take care of the ballparks. Ownership of the facility and responsibility for repairs appears to me to be contractual.
If you can look into the Salt River Indian Nation. Salt River Field is home to the D’backs and Rockies shared facilities for Spring training as well as player development. It’s sits right on the east side of Pima Road (City of Scottsdale is across the street on the west side.) I’m a Rockies fan who follows what goes on there since the Rox moved from Tucson to there. For a few years there’s been talk of the D’backs wanting to get out of PHX and build their ballpark village up there somewhere either near the complex or by Talking stick resort. Since it’s on the reservation they get some tax exemptions that they don’t otherwise get from Maricopa County. The catch is to move there they would have to finance it privately I would think.
A bit surprised that the Talking Stick Indian group hasn't come up. I think they still have some very developable land right on the loop. Could be a nice long term possibility.
They’ll get a deal done when the political pieces sort themselves out. Realistically, there’s no better place for a stadium to be than their current location. The potential land in Scottsdale already suffers from intense traffic. I could only imagine how it would be with a stadium there.
2:05 I went to a game about a month or 2 ago. I must say, it was a little uncomfortable in there with the heat. I didn't really feel much of the air conditioning
I was at the game last night (9/23). 6 games to go and a tight Wild Card race. The stadium was disappointingly empty. That being said, it was 110 outside and cool/comfortable inside. I don't think Arizona nor Florida can support anything but football.
Dude, according to you media people, EVERYTHING should be in Scottsdale or Tempe. The city doesn’t revolve around those areas. Downtown is perfect for a sports complex where people are coming from all areas of town. There’s plenty to do downtown. The issue here is the county won’t fulfill its obligation.
@@kermit1 What downtown are you referring to? Scottsdale has the most active downtown of any city in the metropolitan area and Scottsdale is a city that has a population almost as great as St. Louis, with far less crime and other urban problems.
Brodie failed to mention the Suns owner Ishbia has blocked Diamondbacks from creating a “village “ or “entertainment district”, which has become a necessary part of any team owner funding of venues in major league sports. Downtown is a fine location and benefits from public transportation.
Went to a game at Chase a few years ago. When compared to a ballpark like Petco Park it really suffers. Place was dark and not inviting. Many concession stands were closed. I thought I was in a large airplane hanger. It didn't help that there was a major storm outside that caused an electrical outage delaying the game by about an hour.
Maybe the city should offer an interest only loan to the team for a share in ownership in the franchise. Could include the park too..... The fact is it's in a near ideal location. You're obviously not up to speed on what's going on downtown these days.
Never heard of this guy. But he lost me when he said preseason when referring to the rainout. It’s baseball dummy, it’s Arizona you should automatically know it’s called spring training from birth.
How about the players pony up 10% of their ridiculous salaries and the food outfits that charge $30 for a hotdog pony up 30% of the ridiculous money they make gouging the public?? Just with that collected you could pay DARPA to develop a Superman with cold breath to cool the place down every 5 mins.
The original Skydome--the first retractable roof stadium ever built--was completed in 1989 and still works like a charm. Of course, the owners have poured in 100s of millions over the years.
Before this is all done don’t be surprised if the As are In phoenix, the DBacks are in SLC and the Sox are in Indianapolis… I just felt like throwing a curveball on that last one…
Here is an idea: Why not use the site of the Arizona State Fairgrounds as the site of a new stadium for the Diamondbacks, and a new area for an NHL team? The old Phoenix Suns arena is still standing, and that could be demolished to clear way for an NHL arena. A new stadium can be built on the rest of the property. Some of the older homes surrounding it could be bought out if more room is needed. The state can then build a more modern fairgrounds complex in another area, perhaps somewhere in Pinal County between Pheonix and Tucson.
@@HighpointerGeocacher I'm sure they considered it at one point. The amount of stress a single game would put on local traffic is most likely why it won't ever happen. They'll need to go somewhere more open that can be built up for their very specific needs. They want to be able to do a lot more than just Baseball at their location.
Honestly the diamondbacks can build their stadium where the coyotes were gonna build there’s at off Scottsdale rd and the 101 or in Tempe maybe on the town lake have like a lake and city view with a district there too
Just would hate another AZ team coming to UT because they can't get stadium help from the local government. Don't need Arizona more mad at us than they already are.
We aren't mad at you, just sad we have to watch our awesome team in another city. Especially after we suffered through all the bs and now the team is ready to win. The owner was a clown and utahs owner had the cash.
Utah Jazz. Utah Coyotes. Utah Diamondbacks. Utah Athletics. Four professional teams, including 2 baseball teams. Soon, Utah will convince the Broncos to relocate.
@@RoloTomassiVideos Not comparable at all. The Coyotes were possibly the worst run franchise in American sports history + hockey just isn't THAT popular here. The Dbacks were born right here in PHX and brought us what is still our only major sports championship win + they just went back to the WS Final and had a ROTY. Home attendance has been great recently. Arizona has a long relationship with baseball going back to the 1860s and hosting spring training since 1947. They're the most successful major franchise in the state. No shot they ever leave. There's just too much meat on that bone whereas the Yotes had been picked dry by vultures and left out to rot in the desert.
@@Washanuga can't believe hockey ain't popular in Phoenix. Thought White people love their hockey. Just look at vegas for almost 7 yrs vegas hockey homepages sold put and like 90% white people with other 10% mixture latinos,blacks ND Asian. 😅😅😅 but all white. Oh yeah guess coyote Owner didn't pay referee under table for team win extra wins and win championship.😅😅
This sure was a shocker for someone like me whose favorite baseball teams are the Oakland A's and the Arizona Diamondbacks! I plan on switching #1 allegiance to the Diamondbacks when the A's officially announce a name change, but now I'm worried that I'll face the same issue in a few years if the team leaves Arizona. I have to add that fans should attend to enjoy the game. It shouldn't require a nice waterfront stadium or recent championships like the Giants have to maintain a team. The Oakland Coliseum and its neighborhood aren't keeping true fans from attending. The problem was free agent salaries and not having the $ to keep players. The Eric Chavez (contract & injury) experience started a negative feedback loop of players leaving & casual fans not attending. Shame on the greedy Giants for blocking the A's when they wanted to move to San Jose!
Interesting how having a downtown stadium is now a liability when it used to be an asset. I went to a game at Chase Field 14 years ago & must admit it didn't seem like the most inviting area.
It's a safety issue on the roof. I think it's a cable or some sort of mechanism that provides the opening/closing that has a chance of falling. And the AC issue is the same AC shared system that services the Sun's Footprint Center. It's absurd to think the 2018 lawsuit would include fixing the AC system that also services other facilities. A shared AC system is most definitely beyond the scope of normal fix lights/ normal maintenance issues.
Why didn't they just clear the Seating Bowl of fans during the roof opening then? I'm sure if you told the crowd that the Seating Bowl needed to be cleared to open the roof - people will listen and get out of the area so the Roof can open. There has to be reason the DBacks didn't go with that option and took the lazy route... right?
Downtown Phoenix is the place to be these days. They have been building thousands of apartments the past 7 years or so. Tons of bars and restaurants, a thriving art district, cityscape across from The Footprint Center where the Suns play is basically like the village they want, I guess they just want more all around the ball park.
Not again Brodie. As a SLC resident who wants MLB above all other sports, not from AZ. Love AZ and don't want to be jailed at the state line. Let's wait for expansion or maybe TB?
But they don't full own it. Also, Maricopa Country has gone to shit and current governor and politicians not business friendly. It's boom is already on the decline because of that. Arizonians need to get informed about what they are voting for.
Big dodgers fan Just this year 2024 it was my first Time at #chasefield it was 107 out side and 87 in side no a/c lol And wow did it smell like popcorn and piss I will never go back 😂 It gave me old casino vibes Not a ballpark more like a fallout bunker 😂
The Stadium is fine, a few upgrades here and there and it will be just like new. The race to build brand new stadiums is out of hand. Places like Wrigley, Fenway, Dodger Stadium are all good. Over time you get charm and history built up. Why build something new every 25 years. Build it right the first time and go from there.
Here’s the difference: - All 3 ballparks you listed don’t have issues filling up the ballpark. - All 3 ballparks don’t have a retractable roof; which has a shorter lifespan & is very costly. You also don’t have to factor in the climate control for a huge indoor stadium.
Being a diamondbacks fan is nothing but pain and suffering. It wouldn’t shock me at all if they hit the road before they even build a second generation of fans.
If they leave on well. Obviously with the coyotes Arizona obviously thinks it’s better than its sports teams and our owners are cheap other than Ishbia. AZ as a state is lost.
The one team I am keeping my eye on as a possible relocation to Utah is the Angels. They too are having stadium issues and they already have a Triple-A team set up in Salt Lake. I could see a scenario where the Angels relocate to Utah and use the Triple-A stadium while the new stadium in Utah is being constructed.
Even though I agree with you that the Angels will relocate to Utah (should they think about it), I don't think MLB wants the LA market to only have one team especially given the fact that other major leagues (NBA, NHL, NFL & MLS) have two in the LA market. MLB will likely do everything possible to keep the Angels in the LA market even if it means they leave Anaheim by having them move to Long Beach. Utah would likely get an expansion team when it comes to MLB, or the D-Backs if things fall through in Arizona or even the A's if things fall apart in Vegas.
There's no way the Angels will go to Salt Lake while Arte is the owner. He's not leaving that enormous TV market and that enormous population center for Utah. The team will leave Anaheim, but only to move elsewhere in the LA metro area.
Why would they leave Anaheim? Even though Arte Moreno is one of the most incompetent/hated owners, the attendance is still league average. A few years ago they were still top 6. Also, Anaheim is in the second largest TV market. Why would they leave to a market that is 1/10th the size of their current one?
I plan on relocating to Phoenix in the next year or so.. I do not want to hear they may leave. It would be the only way for me to see the Mets. Unless I drove to LA or San Diego. Utah could be the new Vegas to steal away teams
Why not consider relocating to the Salt Lake City area, instead of the Phoenix area? Then you would have both an NBA team and an NHL team, as well as many mountains and canyons nearby.
MLB to SLC!!! That said, the 900 million is for the Miller family and Big League Utah. The only way for any team to be move to Utah is by selling the team to the Millers which I don't see anyone doing unless MLB forces it.
It’s disappointing that Hall is using the scare tactic. It’s not a city’s responsibility to pay for a team. Yes, the team brings revenue to the city, but any business can argue that and the city isn’t maintaining or building new facilities for other businesses. If a team is lured away by money, so be it. It speaks volumes about ownership’s character when they wax philosophical about how they are part of the fabric of the Valley. Pony up. And as far as the fans are concerned, don’t fall in love with a team whose ownership is beholden to the dollar, not to the fans or the local market. It means they can be bought and places like SLC are willing to do whatever it takes to lure a team. Kind of pathetic and desperate. Get in line for an expansion franchise like Jerry Colangelo did.
Scottsdale should be licking their chops rn, they could do what the Rams are doing in LA. All team operations centrally located in scottsdale, huge space to build, keeps the team in AZ Valley, better commute for fans.
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The solution is very simple. All the Diamondbacks have to do is buy the stadium, pay for all the repairs, future maintenance and property taxes with their own money, then they can keep all the profits for themselves! Isn't Capitalism wonderful?!
@@davidlafleche1142 If Chase Field goes away, I'll never come back to Arizona for any / ⚾ games ever again! 😢
Oh not to mention, as someone who lives in Phoenix it’s kinda hard to watch the DBacks when the black out every game. Genuinely haven’t seen a game on TV in 3 years.
Get dbacks tv.. they have like 6 blackouts each season on there and it’s $20 a month.
It makes me so mad that the team I grew up with, I physically cannot watch them, they should remove black outs but money is more important that fan retention these days
@ucruci
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Look at the bright side. If D Backs move far away from Arizona then their games won't be blacked out anymore on MLB dot TV.
I live in the valley and love going downtown for a game at chase. Downtown Phoenix has been revitalized
I went to the ball park shortly after it opened. The roof was open before the game, and 10 minutes before the game, they closed the roof and the AC cooled the place down in 15 minutes. This was in the middle of the summer with it 115+ outside. Hard to believe this can’t be fixed easy.
As someone who lives in Phoenix, downtown is a great location these days. There’s so many bars and restaurants and fun things to do there. It’s really turned around well coming out of the pandemic.
Glad to hear
He's right. Downtown Phoenix is the place these days. With the University and all the new places in the uptown, midtown and downtown areas, it's a pretty good location. The ballpark is on the 'off side' of what's going on downtown, but a good 'park' could change that. And if the city is going to finance it, why not insist on a nice chunk of equity in the franchise?
Agreed. They’ve done a great job downtown.
Too many homeless,drug addicts and dead bodies from O.D.
@@NHLUtahPlainBagelyou haven’t been downtown by the stadium lately then.
It’s clean it’s thriving tons of restaurants tons of nightlife and a lot of great housing downtown now.
Funniest thing is one of their major sponsors is Chas Robert’s and they are HVAC 😂
Remember the Carrier Dome in Syracuse... It didn't have A/C at all and was sponsored by Carrier Heating and Air.
Parker and Sons is also a sponsor.
The AC isn’t the issue. It’s the roof. I’ve been near the field and it’s nice and cool.. i’ve also been at the highest seats and was sweating like a pig. If they fix the roof then it’ll be better. Having a retractable roof in the desert was probably the dumbest idea ever.
😂😂😂
@@jtrades2134they can just leave it closed forever. Cardinals stadium is also retractable. In any indoor place with A/C and heat outside, u will feel more hot near the roof but is not cuz of the roof but the A/C wich can't cool the whole place, cooler air will be near the floor always for being more heavy air
The courts ruled the D-Backs are responsible for the upkeep of the stadium according to the lease they signed. It appears to me they didn't do the maintenance, so the club is in breach of contract. If they leave the AZ taxpayers must be made whole and we should get a check for their breach of contract. Why didnt the D-backs simply bribe the counsel like the Suns did?
If there were 'truth in labeling' it (and the parking structures nearby) would have been named 'The Tax Dome'.
As a Cubs fan it blows my mind that a team that wasn't around when I was a kid, has the 4th oldest stadium in the NL, I don't see how fans don't riot when owners want to just get a new stadium, you can't get the history that some place like Wrigley or Fenway have.
As a Cubs fan i'm 99.999% sure we will never leave Wrigley unless there is something that can't be fixed.
Can’t because they can just move a team to a new place that’ll get them a new stadium
3rd oldest is Coors Field. As crappy as the Rockies are. The way the Stadium was financed forces the team to invest in the bldg for capital improvements. It’s hard to believe Coors field will be 30 years old next year still feels new.
@@jasondeberry70The Rockies have still never won their division.
@@jasondeberry70No, it is not.
Wrigley, Fenway, Kauffman, Camden Yards, Dodger Stadium, Angels Stadium, Guaranteed Rate Field, Tropicana Field, Sky Dome, and Oakland Alameda Coliseum are all older.
So basically these are the same problems that will eventually affect the A's if they move to Vegas because you have to build a more complicated stadium in an extreme environment like a desert rather than an area with good climate like Oakland. John Fisher is so stupid.
There are massive venues that hold Ice Rinks. I think the As will be fine.
The Raiders stadium has a fixed roof with state of the art air conditioning. Pretty sure an A's stadium would be similar, if less expensive, despite what John Fisher would want to go cheap on.
Oakland is a toilet
Leaving Oakland is smart. Raiders, Warriors even In-N-Out have left Oakland.
@@Bk6346 everyone is leaving Oakland. They’re in a doom loop
Personally, Wrigley Field and Fenway Park are both over 100 years old. Dodger Stadium is also over 65 years of age. Why not a 50 year lease? Yeah, they want a district.. Big deal, I want a 8 figure salary too. Teams just are not content with what they have. I find it funny that a team won't drop a dime for a stadium, but to build a district that they don't control and won't directly see a dime they'll drop quite a few. I personally believe, call their bluff and if they leave.. slam the door on them and move on. If they want it, they are welcome to build it themselves... just like SoFi... Chase field is not that old.. Stadiums today have the life expectancy of an average house cat. Back when teams built them themselves, they had the life expectancy of well over 50 years. Teams are out of control and the faster cities and states start making them build and own their venues... the better this world will be.
The thing with Fenway, Dodger Stadium, and Wrigley is that they were built so long ago and each of these venues did things to maintain the park. Fenway did it the best being proactive at the turn of the Century, Wrigley did it just in time with cheap owners, I can't speak as much to Dodger Stadium as I haven't been there but the ballpark is not in any danger of being shut down. Since Camden Yards newer ballparks were built and looked nice on day 1. However after the large price tag to build these stadiums were done there was no long term plan to account for the cost to maintain them and upgrade tech. Hence you have situations with retractable roofs like in Milwaukee and now Arizona. You have more under the radar but required upkeep at the taxpayers expense like Seattle, Baltimore, and Cleveland.
More sports venues need to be built and funded mostly by owners like Gillette Stadium in Massachusetts where Kraft use very little taxpayer funded $ and continues to fund most of the maintenance and upgrades to the venue himself making it viable no matter what comes next. Nowadays a venue is built at an expensive price and then 5-10 years later the ownership threatens to move to Nashville or another emerging market if the taxpayers don't fund it and the taxpayers are still paying off the original venue!
@@concertvids34 Fenway Park was almost knocked down and replaced in the early 2000s until its new ownership decided it would be better to preserve it.
@@MrRicklynch57 oh yeah I am well aware I grew up in the 90s in CT but have family in Boston and go to Fenway yearly. The investment in the ballpark + the fact they could remove temp press boxes from the 99’ ASG for more seating is why it wasn’t knocked down like Comiskey and other ballparks.
@@concertvids34 There is one thing I've noticed. The venues falling into disrepair the fastest all have one thing in common.. retractable roofs... They started with Montreals Stade Olympique and later skydome (Rogers center I think now) and I'd be hard pressed to see one that has not had some issues and when they do, most just close the lid and leave it closed. Funny how long the open-air stadiums have lasted (well, except in Atlanta.. 20-30 years they have to have a new venue).. Also, in the past as recent as the 70's... things were built to last. Now everything is built so poorly that they fall apart way before they should. it's not just venues and buildings, but TV's and Fridges too. Even our cars.are built to fall apart at 10 years.
because the dodger are so big they don't need the ticket revenue..... and their stadium isn't in the desert
one of my favorite stadiums
Mine too ❤
It was by far my least favorite!! I’ve been to almost every park (haven’t been to the Bay teams or Seattle & new Braves, Rangers but was at their old ones)
I’ve been to Chase Field 2x & it felt like I was in a giant empty cave. It’s dark, dingy & little to nothing special inside or outside.
They should take away seats, add numerous windows, add more local culinary stands & use green A/C & other utilities to save money in the long run.
soon to be one of your favorite parking lots if they don't figure something out here in Phoenix.
I’m about to be in there in a few hours
@@lovesgucci1Toronto is my least favorite.
The whole relocation threat has gone too far and really tarnished the league. These owners need a reality check.
Fabulous content. No messing around. No fluff. Excellent analysis!!
Ballpark sustainment and maintenance is a touchy issue throughout MLB and MiLB teams. Cities will build new stadiums to LAND a team but won't spend another cent maintaining them as there are always more important issues on a city's budget like filling potholes. While teams will sign 30 year long term leases, teams expect the landlord to sustain and improve the property if the city desires the team to sign a new lease to keep their teams. Unfortunately while the ballpark may still stand after 30 years, the stuff behind the walls don't. Plumbing, rest room fixtures, seats, HVAC systems, sound systems, television and radio facilities, concession stand grills, coolers, and freezers, basically the ballpark's guts require upgrades or downright replacing. The ballpark belongs to the landlord, not the tenant. After paying rent and paying the staff to operate the ballparks, repairing equipment during that time, teams expect the landlord to upgrade and refurbish the ballparks, especially when the lease expires.... If the city doesn't, well, other cities have better ballparks or will build a new ballpark to LAND a team...
100% facts, teams need to have contracts that if the city owns a stadium they are required to maintain it properly and spell out properly in extreme detail
@@deanfirnatine7814 I know when I rented a apartment when I was yourng, I didn't mind replacing light bulbs, but I expected my landlord to to replace the hot water tank when it expired, ditto with the refrigerator and furnace. I have had to replace in my senior years in my home the roof and furnace/air conditioner, they are NOT cheap and I had to get a bank loan... Lucky for me that isn't a problem with my bank, but many who rent do have problems arranging a bank loan...
Brodie, another very well put together video, with facts and perspectives. Kudos. Enjoy your work, Sir!
I’ve been to chase field before and I had a great experience there last year. Love their dimensions. The ballpark is easily accessible in downtown and they have a light rail stop by it. As a New Yorker I really got around well in PHX just using their light rail and buses .. even to go hiking in rural areas such as south mountain. Pretty underrated city when it comes to public transportation. It’s definitely a cavernous ballpark and I can see some changes being done to their upper deck seats or dead center field as they’re no seats there but to keep it real this ballpark gets lots of hate and it’s not even that bad at all. Tropicana field was absolutely terrible. When I went to chase field it was about 85 degrees or so during game time and it dropped to about 75 or so that night so the roof was actually opened up and the AC felt fine. They have large windows 🪟 that open. As a Mets fan I wish them the best. Hopefully they don’t move them out of PHX.
As the summer heat continues to build and set new record highs year after year, close the dang roof and leave it closed and weather proof sealed ( cheapest option to maintaining the old mechanisms) and put in dedicated HVAC that can actually do the job for this building in the ever increasing hostile heat environment. Either that or pull the eject handle and run to a cooler climate .....
Thanks for the Arizona update. Athletics fan that relocated a few years ago from Sactown. Have spring training here and A's games every other year. Brodie, keep up the great work!!!!
I hear that Howard Terminal in Oakland is available.
Oakland is a dump
A ballpark village for Phoenix summers sounds totally asinine.
@@ShantyIrishman Not if much or all of it is in a climate controlled area. All that takes is power….
Fun fact. The tallest building in Phoenix, the former Chase Building is completely vacant.
Wow what a Waste!
I don’t understand how Chase Field is a “bad” location. Living in Phoenix and going to every weekend Dbacks game this season, Chase Field is very easy to get to either driving there or taking the Light Rail. With the Suns Arena next door there is huge potential in downtown Phoenix that the city needs to encourage new development, and losing a sports team down there would detrimental to keeping downtown Phoenix relevant
"Relevant"? The fact is both arenas have had a negligible impact on Downtown. They draw a big crowd that creates a bunch of traffic for a few hours a few evenings a month, with a crowd that comes to the venue and leaves and doesn't stay downtown at all. That's not an economically beneficial crowd and it adds almost nothing to the character, ambience and attractiveness of the area. Nobody hears about the Herberger in the media, and it adds infinitely more to the city than either arena ever has. Ditto for Symphony Hall. Ditto for the Orpheum. I'd venture a guess that the Crescent Ballroom has a more positive impact on downtown than both sports venues, combined. I bet the Van Buren does more for downtown all on its own than the ballpark does, and certainly more than the Suns arena. Maybe the city should consider paying their bills.... 🙄
Brother the light rail is not easy to use at all especially if you live in Tempe or Mesa
Weekdays are a much tougher sell than weekends. Been to both.
@@chrisschaller9547 They’re working on it, but they’re still not doing it right. It’s not like they’re aren’t good models out there either. Whoever is managing it just seems a bit backward or boneheaded it seems. The POS approach is just one example. I meet tourists on the tram who ask how do they pay, because they’ve made that awkward, difficult or basically impossible. It’s hard to figure out why they’d make it difficult for people to give them money, but they have. Go figure…
@@nomdeguerre7265 it’ll probably be easier to use when you don’t have to walk 30 mins to a stop in 110 degree weather
I appreciate the video and the depth with which you covered the situation, but idk if I’d consider downtown Phoenix “mid” anymore. 5+years ago, sure, but it’s very lively these days and provides tons of entertainment options.
This whole problem can be solved in two steps:
1) Buy your own field.
2) Pay for your own maintenance/upgrades.
There isn't a valid reason for a municipality to own a stadium in 2024.
Unless the city gets a percentage in ownership for helping with taxpayer funds & restrictions on moving the team outside the city.
3) The team leaves for another city.
The city of Phoenix does have a choice.
But 2024 Chase Field is owned by Maricopa County and the Diamondbacks are only a tenant. They can leave town and it doesn’t cost them anything to move. Meanwhile Phoenix taxpayers are stuck with an empty stadium.
@@Bk6346 I misunderstood what your initial comment was. I thought you meant that the city/county shouldn’t use taxpayer funds & I said if the city does fund a new ballpark or a reno, there should be a clause in the contract.
@@Bk6346The taxpayers lose money on the stadium every year. An empty stadium that doesn't have to be maintained would actually save money. The D-Backs should BUY the stadium from the county and repair it.
@@vincesmith2499 That’s sounds like self serving logic.
I was just at Chase Field on Wed to see them play SF.... it was awesome... I love the ball park, its fine
Dodgers were given the land by the city of Los Angeles to build a ballpark and they pay for the maintenance and upkeep of the stadium. Own the land and build it privately for yourself. Giants did the same.
Yeah, compare the inflated prices for the Giants games.
The problem is that the Dodgers don't own all the land. Frank McCourt, the former Dodgers owner, still owns the parking lots
Owners in the 1880-1920's did get tax incentives but had to put up a large part of the money. And they didn't ask for a new one after 30 yrs , 60 yes
I remember being there a few years ago for the AFL Tripleheader. The roof needed work back then. There were significant sections behind the dish that water was pouring down on (it was raining that day). I asked an attendant and she told me the vendor who could fix it had to come from Canada and at the time Canada wasn't allowing anyone out of the country because of COVID. Doesn't sound like they ever showed up to fix the problem.
I'd also find it humorous if the D-Backs ended up using the Coliseum for a few seasons (if it's not razed by then) as a home while they wait for a new stadium to be built in UT. We're about to see a crazy game of musical chairs in the next few years from the looks of it.
Tell them the weather here in Oakland is perfect.
Ain't nobody want to go to Oakland, c'mon man.
Y'all gotta fix the politics/crime first that place is ridiculous ☠️
@@stephensullivan1011 Oakland can always fix their crime issue, but the Valley cannot change the weather
There is a reason every major sport left Oakland. Let it go.
@renlysotherlover294 We don't give up sir
One thing you may be overlooking is SLC has a short term solution along with the long term solution. 1st, the Future stadium site is "shovel ready", shortening construction time somewhat. And second the AAA Bees just played their last game at Smith's Ballpark. Not an MLB facility for sure, but a completely viable 1-2 year Short Term solution. That being said, pretty sure they are just using SLC as a negotiating chip.
You are absolutely right about Salt Lake.
OMG I did not know Chase Field is the 4th oldest stadium in the NL how time flies and I remember when Shea Stadium first open in 1964 and Shea was the 3rd oldest stadium when it closed after the 2008 season. Cool video big liked!
I've been living in Arizona 40+ years and if another sports team leaves AZ due to sporting venue issues, I'm gonna leave the State myself. I'm so sick of teams relocating. Sports should stick it where the sun doesn't shine on that one!
The difference is the Coyote's were struggling and had been since the mid 2010's. The Diamondback's aren't struggling at all.
With the As relocation fee being scrapped by MLB. That now creates a “new normal” so watch out. Other owners might well want the same ? Just a thought ??
Went to two concerts in the last 3 weeks at the stadium. Was in the 300 section at the top, and the ac was great. Haha I could feel it well. Not sure how hot it is at the bottom though 😅
Heat rises so lower is cooler
@@alanbiancardi2531 obviously, but with a crowd that big and with the AC being at the top, I’d believe it would be hotter down towards the bottom possibly, but idk.
Another billionaire who wants to own the property around the ballpark, makes me sick us fans have zero say, yet we pay for all of it
There is a problem with major sports leagues and their economics. Owners are filthy rich. Players are filthy rich. Ticket prices and concessions are outrageous. But when it comes time to build their palaces, teams require too much from the taxpayers. Had they paid players good but reasonable salaries, had they set aside a good portion of their profits year after year, they could better afford to construct the very buildings they need to operate their lucrative businesses with minimal demands on local taxpayers.
I really think it comes down to greed. Multi-billionaire owners have plenty of access to private capital. Owners would rather not open their wallets when they can get taxpayers to open theirs.
The owners have zero ability to unilaterally decide to lower the players' salaries
Privatizing the profits but socializing the costs is how many filthy rich people become and stay filthy rich.
The taxpayers can always say no. Phoenix taxpayers said no to the NHL Coyotes plan for a hockey arena in Tempe. They can also say no to the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Seriously. You want taxpayer funding for the stadium? Okay, I should get free tickets when I show my 1040 at the box office. That's not enough? Okay, let these players make $50 mil instead of $100 mil, and, oh, look, money for a new stadium! They're the ones benefiting from it, so let them pay for it. Or they can leave, who cares. I'd rather watch Major League Wiffleball on UA-cam, guys who play for love of the game, not so they can wear clinky gold chains as they jog down the first base line.
I doubt they'd leave Arizona.
Didn't think the coyotes would leave either
@@mikebattista9570 hockey in the desert never took off like baseball
Great job. Love these types stories
I'm thinking that once the election is over, the issues will be resolved one way or another. As was mentioned in the video, there will be quite a bit of turnover in the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. There's an option that's been floated in the past to build a new ballpark and entertainment district on the Pima-Maricopa Reservation, east of Scottsdale, right next to the D-backs' spring training facility.
Great video. In my opinion, it’s one thing for the Diamondbacks to lose their team to Utah, Nashville, Portland, etc.
It’s a whole different thing for the White Sox. There’s no way they leave Chicago, the 3rd largest market still for one of these smaller, triple A markets. Even if they don’t draw fans in Chicago, I would submit they’re financially better off there than those other places.
Why not Indianapolis? It is relatively close to Chicago, and the White Sox would have the entire state of Indiana to themselves rather than competing with the more popular Cubs in Chicago.
Also, due its more conservative politics, Indiana is increasing in population, while the population of Illinois is declining.
It's close to freeways and not far from downtown. Perhaps a light rail spur could be added to improve public transit. The fairgrounds date to territorial days. It is an old neighborhood badly in need of revitalization.
Went to a couple of games this year, Chase Field and the downtown idea is an excellent experience. Management needs to commit to winning, not this back-and-forth game that they play.
I think Phoenix Suns owners Mat and Justin Ishbia will purchase the Arizona Diamondbacks from Ken Kendrick for $2.55 billion and prevent them from relocating to Salt Lake City.
Just to get the ownership to pony up for up keep is the pivotal point. Get the AC fixed and get that roof fixed. Ive watched a couple games there like 15 years ago and it was a nice yard. Ive always believed that the teams should take care of the ballparks. Ownership of the facility and responsibility for repairs appears to me to be contractual.
If you can look into the Salt River Indian Nation. Salt River Field is home to the D’backs and Rockies shared facilities for Spring training as well as player development. It’s sits right on the east side of Pima Road (City of Scottsdale is across the street on the west side.) I’m a Rockies fan who follows what goes on there since the Rox moved from Tucson to there. For a few years there’s been talk of the D’backs wanting to get out of PHX and build their ballpark village up there somewhere either near the complex or by Talking stick resort. Since it’s on the reservation they get some tax exemptions that they don’t otherwise get from Maricopa County. The catch is to move there they would have to finance it privately I would think.
A bit surprised that the Talking Stick Indian group hasn't come up. I think they still have some very developable land right on the loop. Could be a nice long term possibility.
If they didn’t want to keep the Coyotes, they won’t want to with the Dbacks either
That would be an excellent idea. They could also have gaming at the stadium! They could call it the Pete Rose Ballpark.
I think that’s been the D’backs target for a while.
no we have too much urban sprawl. its been triple degree temps for 40+ days in the past 3 years. we dont need to be pouring concrete in a desert.
Would be piss if our DBacks leave us
They’ll get a deal done when the political pieces sort themselves out. Realistically, there’s no better place for a stadium to be than their current location. The potential land in Scottsdale already suffers from intense traffic. I could only imagine how it would be with a stadium there.
I can’t see in anyway shape or form that the Diamondbacks ever leave Phoenix
2:05 I went to a game about a month or 2 ago. I must say, it was a little uncomfortable in there with the heat. I didn't really feel much of the air conditioning
I was at the game last night (9/23). 6 games to go and a tight Wild Card race. The stadium was disappointingly empty. That being said, it was 110 outside and cool/comfortable inside.
I don't think Arizona nor Florida can support anything but football.
Dude, according to you media people, EVERYTHING should be in Scottsdale or Tempe. The city doesn’t revolve around those areas. Downtown is perfect for a sports complex where people are coming from all areas of town. There’s plenty to do downtown. The issue here is the county won’t fulfill its obligation.
is there a lot of available land downtown?
There is no space in downtown for a conplex
@@kermit1 What downtown are you referring to? Scottsdale has the most active downtown of any city in the metropolitan area and Scottsdale is a city that has a population almost as great as St. Louis, with far less crime and other urban problems.
Gosh. when i bought a house, I NEVER thought there would any maintenance. 😅
The Diamondback's really thought there would be no upkeep? Sheesh!
I like what going on in Toronto to keep up Rogers Centre but it helps that Rogers Communications owns the ballpark and the team
Brodie failed to mention the Suns owner Ishbia has blocked Diamondbacks from creating a “village “ or “entertainment district”, which has become a necessary part of any team owner funding of venues in major league sports. Downtown is a fine location and benefits from public transportation.
I was wondering when you'd get around to the Chase Field situation? And it does make you wonder about ballpark in Las Vegas...
@@robbyg8104 It’ll be like the same thing as Phoenix. It’ll need constant maintenance because of the heat
Went to a game at Chase a few years ago. When compared to a ballpark like Petco Park it really suffers. Place was dark and not inviting. Many concession stands were closed. I thought I was in a large airplane hanger. It didn't help that there was a major storm outside that caused an electrical outage delaying the game by about an hour.
It’s actually a great stadium with plenty of character and features to it. Location is great in the heart of the Valley. Would hate to see it go.
But dang you guys got some great golf courses!!!!! Love me some AZ golf!!!!
Maybe the city should offer an interest only loan to the team for a share in ownership in the franchise. Could include the park too..... The fact is it's in a near ideal location. You're obviously not up to speed on what's going on downtown these days.
Never heard of this guy. But he lost me when he said preseason when referring to the rainout. It’s baseball dummy, it’s Arizona you should automatically know it’s called spring training from birth.
How about the players pony up 10% of their ridiculous salaries and the food outfits that charge $30 for a hotdog pony up 30% of the ridiculous money they make gouging the public?? Just with that collected you could pay DARPA to develop a Superman with cold breath to cool the place down every 5 mins.
The original Skydome--the first retractable roof stadium ever built--was completed in 1989 and still works like a charm. Of course, the owners have poured in 100s of millions over the years.
Before this is all done don’t be surprised if the As are In phoenix, the DBacks are in SLC and the Sox are in Indianapolis… I just felt like throwing a curveball on that last one…
None of those things will happen.
@@vincesmith2499the whole comment was in jest, maybe switch to decaf…
Here is an idea: Why not use the site of the Arizona State Fairgrounds as the site of a new stadium for the Diamondbacks, and a new area for an NHL team? The old Phoenix Suns arena is still standing, and that could be demolished to clear way for an NHL arena. A new stadium can be built on the rest of the property. Some of the older homes surrounding it could be bought out if more room is needed. The state can then build a more modern fairgrounds complex in another area, perhaps somewhere in Pinal County between Pheonix and Tucson.
@@HighpointerGeocacher I'm sure they considered it at one point. The amount of stress a single game would put on local traffic is most likely why it won't ever happen. They'll need to go somewhere more open that can be built up for their very specific needs. They want to be able to do a lot more than just Baseball at their location.
AZ is not getting an NHL team.
Honestly the diamondbacks can build their stadium where the coyotes were gonna build there’s at off Scottsdale rd and the 101 or in Tempe maybe on the town lake have like a lake and city view with a district there too
I hope they can figure something out. My uncle works for them and he got a NL champion ring from them.
TV black outs?
Just would hate another AZ team coming to UT because they can't get stadium help from the local government. Don't need Arizona more mad at us than they already are.
Our fine Utah Legislature set side 900 mill for MLB stadium. And another 900 mill for hockey. Go figure.
Q@BigBlueHorses it's almost as if they knew something like this was going to happen
We aren't mad at you, just sad we have to watch our awesome team in another city. Especially after we suffered through all the bs and now the team is ready to win. The owner was a clown and utahs owner had the cash.
Utah Jazz. Utah Coyotes. Utah Diamondbacks. Utah Athletics. Four professional teams, including 2 baseball teams. Soon, Utah will convince the Broncos to relocate.
@@BigBlueHorses If Utah can do it, why can't significatly larger and more populous Arizona?
Relax. Diamondbacks are not leaving Maricopa County.
I remember very similar comments about the Coyotes. 😬
@@RoloTomassiVideos Not comparable at all. The Coyotes were possibly the worst run franchise in American sports history + hockey just isn't THAT popular here. The Dbacks were born right here in PHX and brought us what is still our only major sports championship win + they just went back to the WS Final and had a ROTY. Home attendance has been great recently. Arizona has a long relationship with baseball going back to the 1860s and hosting spring training since 1947. They're the most successful major franchise in the state. No shot they ever leave. There's just too much meat on that bone whereas the Yotes had been picked dry by vultures and left out to rot in the desert.
@@Washanuga can't believe hockey ain't popular in Phoenix. Thought White people love their hockey. Just look at vegas for almost 7 yrs vegas hockey homepages sold put and like 90% white people with other 10% mixture latinos,blacks ND Asian. 😅😅😅 but all white. Oh yeah guess coyote Owner didn't pay referee under table for team win extra wins and win championship.😅😅
Even if they left downtown that would be a horrible move for the team
😢😢😢please don't take my team
It feels like just yesterday it was built. It still looks new from a distance
agree.
This sure was a shocker for someone like me whose favorite baseball teams are the Oakland A's and the Arizona Diamondbacks! I plan on switching #1 allegiance to the Diamondbacks when the A's officially announce a name change, but now I'm worried that I'll face the same issue in a few years if the team leaves Arizona.
I have to add that fans should attend to enjoy the game. It shouldn't require a nice waterfront stadium or recent championships like the Giants have to maintain a team. The Oakland Coliseum and its neighborhood aren't keeping true fans from attending. The problem was free agent salaries and not having the $ to keep players. The Eric Chavez (contract & injury) experience started a negative feedback loop of players leaving & casual fans not attending. Shame on the greedy Giants for blocking the A's when they wanted to move to San Jose!
San Jose would've been nice, but Vegas will be Epic.
The diamondbacks being downtown is what makes them great, best sporting experience in the state
To hell with the D’backs. No pubic money for billionaire owners and millionaire players In any sport!
Team needs to pay for AC upgrade
Interesting how having a downtown stadium is now a liability when it used to be an asset. I went to a game at Chase Field 14 years ago & must admit it didn't seem like the most inviting area.
Think downtown Phoenix is definitely improving, its very much in a "meh" state but it used to be much worse.
I could also say it's going downhill. Used to be there was NOBODY down there weekends....it was MY city. 🤣
UT Fairgounds park?? Maybe the old Smith's Ballpark...
It's a safety issue on the roof. I think it's a cable or some sort of mechanism that provides the opening/closing that has a chance of falling. And the AC issue is the same AC shared system that services the Sun's Footprint Center. It's absurd to think the 2018 lawsuit would include fixing the AC system that also services other facilities. A shared AC system is most definitely beyond the scope of normal fix lights/ normal maintenance issues.
Why didn't they just clear the Seating Bowl of fans during the roof opening then? I'm sure if you told the crowd that the Seating Bowl needed to be cleared to open the roof - people will listen and get out of the area so the Roof can open. There has to be reason the DBacks didn't go with that option and took the lazy route... right?
@@Anim3Gamer Shouldn't have built a stadium with a retractable roof in the first place. Same with the Cardinals.
Downtown Phoenix is the place to be these days. They have been building thousands of apartments the past 7 years or so. Tons of bars and restaurants, a thriving art district, cityscape across from The Footprint Center where the Suns play is basically like the village they want, I guess they just want more all around the ball park.
I hope the diamondbacks don't relocate.
Not again Brodie. As a SLC resident who wants MLB above all other sports, not from AZ. Love AZ and don't want to be jailed at the state line. Let's wait for expansion or maybe TB?
TB not coming. They have a stadium deal
The teams and league should maintain these ballparks. Not the cities and citizens.
But they don't full own it. Also, Maricopa Country has gone to shit and current governor and politicians not business friendly. It's boom is already on the decline because of that. Arizonians need to get informed about what they are voting for.
The Diamondbacks visited BC Place in Vancouver a few years ago. I wonder if that’s still a possibility…
Big dodgers fan
Just this year 2024 it was my first
Time at #chasefield it was 107 out side and 87 in side no a/c lol
And wow did it smell like popcorn and piss
I will never go back 😂
It gave me old casino vibes
Not a ballpark more like a fallout bunker 😂
😂
The Stadium is fine, a few upgrades here and there and it will be just like new. The race to build brand new stadiums is out of hand. Places like Wrigley, Fenway, Dodger Stadium are all good. Over time you get charm and history built up. Why build something new every 25 years. Build it right the first time and go from there.
Here’s the difference:
- All 3 ballparks you listed don’t have issues filling up the ballpark.
- All 3 ballparks don’t have a retractable roof; which has a shorter lifespan & is very costly. You also don’t have to factor in the climate control for a huge indoor stadium.
My favorite ballpark. Its perfect. Close and seal the roof forever. The AC issue is fabricated propoganda.
Yes I was there! First rainout in diamondbacks home history. Hilarious!!
Is Arizona about to lose another franchise to Utah then?
I went to a game there several years ago and the AC was great. Is the problem that the AC has degraded or has the weather just become hotter?
Most likely, the AC needs a huge upgrade. It’s probably more costly to continue to use an outdated system as well
From day one the upper deck of Chase was too hot with too little air movement. Only field seats and the lower deck are comfortable. HVAC fail.
Being a diamondbacks fan is nothing but pain and suffering. It wouldn’t shock me at all if they hit the road before they even build a second generation of fans.
If they leave on well. Obviously with the coyotes Arizona obviously thinks it’s better than its sports teams and our owners are cheap other than Ishbia. AZ as a state is lost.
Don’t cave Phoenix, tell them to get lost. Build their own.
The one team I am keeping my eye on as a possible relocation to Utah is the Angels. They too are having stadium issues and they already have a Triple-A team set up in Salt Lake. I could see a scenario where the Angels relocate to Utah and use the Triple-A stadium while the new stadium in Utah is being constructed.
Even though I agree with you that the Angels will relocate to Utah (should they think about it), I don't think MLB wants the LA market to only have one team especially given the fact that other major leagues (NBA, NHL, NFL & MLS) have two in the LA market. MLB will likely do everything possible to keep the Angels in the LA market even if it means they leave Anaheim by having them move to Long Beach. Utah would likely get an expansion team when it comes to MLB, or the D-Backs if things fall through in Arizona or even the A's if things fall apart in Vegas.
There's no way the Angels will go to Salt Lake while Arte is the owner. He's not leaving that enormous TV market and that enormous population center for Utah. The team will leave Anaheim, but only to move elsewhere in the LA metro area.
Los Angeles Angels are getting 31,000 a night with a bad team in 2024. But they need a new stadium.
Why would they leave Anaheim? Even though Arte Moreno is one of the most incompetent/hated owners, the attendance is still league average. A few years ago they were still top 6. Also, Anaheim is in the second largest TV market. Why would they leave to a market that is 1/10th the size of their current one?
The AC has never worked well, even when the stadium was new. It's always been hot in there.
I plan on relocating to Phoenix in the next year or so.. I do not want to hear they may leave. It would be the only way for me to see the Mets. Unless I drove to LA or San Diego. Utah could be the new Vegas to steal away teams
Why not consider relocating to the Salt Lake City area, instead of the Phoenix area? Then you would have both an NBA team and an NHL team, as well as many mountains and canyons nearby.
@@HighpointerGeocacher Im from NY. I hate the weather here. Phoenix is nice and warm. Besides Spring Training is a huge +
MLB to SLC!!! That said, the 900 million is for the Miller family and Big League Utah. The only way for any team to be move to Utah is by selling the team to the Millers which I don't see anyone doing unless MLB forces it.
MLB should go to SLC as an expansion team
It’s disappointing that Hall is using the scare tactic. It’s not a city’s responsibility to pay for a team. Yes, the team brings revenue to the city, but any business can argue that and the city isn’t maintaining or building new facilities for other businesses. If a team is lured away by money, so be it. It speaks volumes about ownership’s character when they wax philosophical about how they are part of the fabric of the Valley. Pony up. And as far as the fans are concerned, don’t fall in love with a team whose ownership is beholden to the dollar, not to the fans or the local market. It means they can be bought and places like SLC are willing to do whatever it takes to lure a team. Kind of pathetic and desperate. Get in line for an expansion franchise like Jerry Colangelo did.
Scottsdale should be licking their chops rn, they could do what the Rams are doing in LA. All team operations centrally located in scottsdale, huge space to build, keeps the team in AZ Valley, better commute for fans.