They would have to figure out a way to determine who os the rammer or the rammed. Case in point. I get smoked from behind, hit someone else then a 10 second cool down as I kiss the wall avoiding another collision.
@@alperenarslan01 oh yea yea totally real u just remembered that my cousin used to race with his buddies with the Ferrari 599xx evo in the streets of uk, and they hit the wall, guess what? Nothing happened to his car, and even in car accidents he never gor hurt.. Yea you're totally right.
Yeah like yesterday I hoped on forza for the first time in a year and my team mate just kept pushing me to the side and then I just wacked him to the side(not of the track tho, he also called me a noob and I should let others pass referring to himself) and for the next 2 races he just kept hitting me when ever he can
Had that happen the other day, I was second and teammate was first and he rammed me so I missed checkpoint ended up finishing near last because of it. Next event I made sure to ram him as hard as I could every corner lol.
Little kids who don't understand how to Shake and bake 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I understand a little bumping and rubbing but deliberate douchebagary is not cool. I'm throughly convinced it's not the games that are bad these days it's how people play them🤔🥱 just look a COD for instance 🤣🤣🤣🤣
8:14 oh my God, HUGE RESPECT for that guy who steered in the opposite direction JUST before the contact instead of ramming you to make you miss the checkpoint.
I mean objectively, if your taking realism you could use the wall as a guide:p kinda like how in initial D takumi would use gutters to turn faster I don’t see an issue really
4:20 got me so fckin scared! Had my earphones in tranparency mode and thought someone stood right to my side and talked to me. But i was alone in my home!😂
Trolls will always find a way. I think a penalty system that deducts points from your championship standing would tone it down since it's ranked. Also smaller grids tend to have cleaner racing as well.
I think they should just make ghosting more sensitive. Putting in a penalty system in an arcade racer is really excessive and a waste of effort for little result.
Because in horizon, car diversity is so high that each car has vastly different braking points and handing capabilities, so accidental bumps are pretty much inevitable. Sims don’t have this because cars in a class are balanced to perform really similarly.
I don't like the wall riding thing , sometimes someone side slams me into a wall and it slows me down. But I do like the anti ramming , I can just phase through people in corners now , which helps me a lot since I like to use really light really grippy cars that tend to be slow. But I do miss the huge collisions in corners that was really fun
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I think ramming should be enabled for casual races it was fun indeed
@ my favourites were when my Huayra got spun on a bridge and they rammed me sideways across it and fh3 , this one guy in I'm guessing was the mercury coupe kept ramming everyone but I was using my noble m600 which had fully open diffs so it could spin really fast, just kept bating him into ramming me and spinning as he hit me so he'd just slam himself into a wall
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@@Rose_Butterfly98 I love when in s2 class races,when hard turn comes up and everybody just slams each other to walls with 250 km/h it's just hilarious.You cant see that with ghost mode:/
6:57 Ah yes, sticking corners, I'm familiar with those
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Thats is the problem: in ranked we run by points (and its so anoying when we no have nothing after a good race or good position), but in general we running for fun, that is the idea!..., and we still having that problem in ranked becuse we not have a ban system..., so, we only have patience and good luck in our racing games...
You know how in motorsport games there's that Monza turn 1 clusterheck? In horizon 4 we have things like that Road Circuit in that little southern village, where turn 1 is an almost 90 degree left. I think that turn really benefits the anti ramming patch
Things that will never get fixed but REALLY need to be: 1 - Either turn ghost Mode on or off. Or fix it. It doesn’t really work inbetween as the AI doesn’t detect certain things like when someone uses you as a cushion slams you into the barrier but you get slowed for 3 seconds. And they fly away happy as Larry. 2 - Let us choose race type. At least between road racing and off road. Who really wants to do free roam Rush? Or cross country in general. Free roam Rush gives me high blood pressure and grey hairs 😂 3 - Fix team ranked where when you win the race finishing first place against all their team, but some of them rage quit the game right at the end so you get all points deducted despite beating the whole team you may end up with 100/200 points for beating the two dudes who didn’t quit.
@@zachb1706 I literally get ghosted and just go straight through people in corners because I have better braking, there's no overtaking in corners anymore, just get good brakes and you just phase right through.
You wanna know a simple idea to solve this? No respawns. If your car is too badly damaged then u have to abandon the race. It will push ppl to play safer and fair. But there's a downside, if u get rammed u will probably lose the race with no fault of your own, but that's racing. Just like real life
@Tristen Wu Yup, unless you tap brake or brake early and steer into corneer its impossible to properly do it. Its fine in Motorpsport since, its slower paced, but Horizon is more agressive on cornering so, no way.
Not all kb players need abs. I play with no assists whatsoever (even w/o driving line). Just set your brakes to about 45-50% pressure. You can still brake normally at your regular braking points (if not slightly before) and you don't need to worry about locking up. Easy peasy :P
you cant really do that, if you are trying to corner at a proper speed, then the game wont ghost you out, if you are fast enough to get ghosted, you wont turn the corner. there are really 2 options, either you are going stupidly fast, or theyre going extra slow for some reason
@@ozguridisstudent5519 some cars (like apollo) can just ignore braking points though. with around 100-200 cars per class it becomes really unbalanced. half my overtakes in races is because of me taking better corners.
Anti-ram patches only work for mostly front to back high-speed collisions but not side to side. That's why nothing really changed about griefers because they can still ram you from the side in a turn.
Awesome video epic driving epic funny moments 😂i love that video of your where one guy was speeding and crash while playing song gas gas gas i can't wait to see you in forza horizon 5 i think you should do full gameplay because you are very epic in driving games
I've honestly had great experiences racing in unranked. Even had people messaging thanking me for a good race. As long as there is no driver ratings it'll never be perfect, but right now it's still pretty decent.
Same, I also have been messaging some good and fair drivers in the past and have been messaged too. :) Unfortunately it seems this is not possible anymore in the Xbox Console Companion, at least not without sending a friend request. There are still some rammers which can make races frustrating, but it seems the majority now at least doesn't ram on purpose.
@@darkchild130 I can't imagine trying to drive without proper throttle control, thats a way bigger deal than steering, not being able to ease on the throttle to stay at the limit of grip would fuck with me
For those having connectivity issues on PC with forza online running the following command in command prompt in admin mode will fix the issue "netsh int ipv6 set teredo client teredo.trex.fi"
Are you saying that it was not always like that? And you didn't have a ghost mode at the starting line and no ghosting on high speed collisions? I began to play FH4 in October 2020. I had no idea that ranked was that way for 2 years since the release.
honestly, the rammers made the game fun and all the wall timers and slow ruined the game for me because people can hit you into a wall and you get the slow timer. just get rid of the bs and let the mayhem come back.
I love the anti - rammer wall, also I love the high speed collision to make the ghost effect to avoid rammers, but I hate when I crash with my car and make it slow :)
IMO, FH4 should include some game modes like : - purist (no anti-ramming, no ghosting, no anti-wall-run, only pure arcade racing) - something like "skillist" (anti-ramming, no wall-run, no contact possible, only pure skill) - sportsmanship (no wall-run, but contact allowed, only pure sportsmanship) What do you think?
The best way to prevent ramming is to make physics and damage more realistic. If you ram a car, you're going to fuck up your own car and probably going to break down. In the old Forzas that's how it was. Damage was more than cosmetic.
Unless you're going up hill, don't hold your upshifts till the rev limiter when your on higher gears at high speeds. It depends on the gear ratios, but I've generally found its harder for the car to accelerate at near redline in 5th than if I went into 6th. Try it out and let me know.
Still, Horizon 4 could really use the Safety Rating, so that clean players get matched against clean players, and rammers against rammers...
It could also use a feature where custom events are integrated into normal adventure hoppers, but let’s hope something happens in fh5
not when you get stupid bouncy dirt tracks. it is deliberately made to be a clusterfuck. safety rating wouldnt work there.
They would have to figure out a way to determine who os the rammer or the rammed.
Case in point. I get smoked from behind, hit someone else then a 10 second cool down as I kiss the wall avoiding another collision.
I've been suggesting this for years. Grand Turismo has such a system. Its not full-proof but at least they have something.
@@christhaslag Gran Turismo* fool-proof*
The only way to race cleanly is with ghost mode
ghost mode is not a real race, therefore not clean
@@oceso so in your opinion Forza Races are real?
@@khalilnaji9605 aaa yeah?
@@alperenarslan01 oh yea yea totally real u just remembered that my cousin used to race with his buddies with the Ferrari 599xx evo in the streets of uk, and they hit the wall, guess what? Nothing happened to his car, and even in car accidents he never gor hurt.. Yea you're totally right.
Radu Antoniu yep.
I love how people would ram their OWN TEAM MATES. Like, do they not understand the term team?
Yeah like yesterday I hoped on forza for the first time in a year and my team mate just kept pushing me to the side and then I just wacked him to the side(not of the track tho, he also called me a noob and I should let others pass referring to himself) and for the next 2 races he just kept hitting me when ever he can
Had that happen the other day, I was second and teammate was first and he rammed me so I missed checkpoint ended up finishing near last because of it. Next event I made sure to ram him as hard as I could every corner lol.
There is no "us" in team
-rammers probably
Little kids who don't understand how to Shake and bake 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I understand a little bumping and rubbing but deliberate douchebagary is not cool. I'm throughly convinced it's not the games that are bad these days it's how people play them🤔🥱 just look a COD for instance 🤣🤣🤣🤣
humans will be humans mate
we kill our own team everyday
only that isn't a game and some times there's no punishment
Kid's mentality: Why use brakes and racing lines, when your opponent can brake for you, and cushion you into it anyways?
Lol. Yeah.
@@camron4255 are you 12 or something
@@camron4255 no, u git gud instead xD
@@camron4255 it's Toki from fist of the North star
@@camron4255 git gud, you ain't getting a driver's licence with that manner
6:57 Side mirror : my time has come
Had to get that extra weight reduction.
@@DarthEstebanMontoya had to balance the weight
Race mode - ON!
Is no one going to talk about how he really doesn’t suck at driving?
And how much better he drives than a grandma
I beat him once out of five races when he was driving the RWD drift Corvette. Dude is nuts.
I thought it was a she, not a he
big fat liar
ehhhh it's quite dirty. Keeps bumping into walls and shit on the side. He can't hold his line very well.
8:14 oh my God, HUGE RESPECT for that guy who steered in the opposite direction JUST before the contact instead of ramming you to make you miss the checkpoint.
0:59 got a good old nose exhale out of me haha. Those little unexpected edits you make never fail to make me smile 👍
They came on the perfect moment ahah
They commited suicide because they knew that they aren't going to win
Yeah they came a long way. And still have rammers
@Dallas allow ghost
@Dallas and for cod = when camping, be unable to fire weapon or cqc
@Dallas Except you can easily deal with campers. Grenades and thermite.
@@thevalorousdong7675 especially an RPG lol
@@michaeldelvillar2710 yea lol that too, C4 too
8:01 that’s pure racing instinct.. simply amazing to watch
Was thinking this exact thing
That's a true racist
@@steveelpro Bruh
@Ryan 9638 he hit his breaks because he knew he would most likely get rammed while trying to take that turn.
@Ryan 9638 shiet maybe bro that was just my take on it
2:42, that guy cornered faster by handrailing than you did by taking the racing line. What a fair and balanced game.
Yeah that's awful, thank god this shit is fixed
This was a the crew 2 mechanich that some people used to beat records, thank god they fixed it
I mean objectively, if your taking realism you could use the wall as a guide:p kinda like how in initial D takumi would use gutters to turn faster I don’t see an issue really
@@Lordofcin in real life it would cause more damage than anything else
Is it me or @8:04, the other McLaren slowed down the NSX and give a friendly beep. What a lad lol
Yes it was
Ur driving is simply nuts dude
I came my pants actually 😳👉👈
not to mention it's keyboard driving on top of that
aferran69 simply shits?
EZ to drive on forza... try rally cross on PJC 2
Tre molony try dirt rally or assetto on a steering wheel.
Wait, the other Bentley username is: I_Blow_I_Suck_at_driving_daily.
Wuuuut?
Women love him.
Men want to be him.
The one. The legend.
_It's the one who blows ISAD_
Must be a hater or somewhat lol. But I have to admit, that player really knows the lines of the track
@@jojodivas9211 pretty sure it's a friend
@@jojodivas9211 that dude did kinda ram quite a bit though ... sad
4:20 got me so fckin scared! Had my earphones in tranparency mode and thought someone stood right to my side and talked to me. But i was alone in my home!😂
I swear god it’s not just me 😂
that's from Initial D, and I swear it was even weirder there xD
4:20 = 420
4:15 “COOL VIBRATIONS”
Me: *Sees headlights from behind getting brighter* “Ah shit, here it comes”
Trolls will always find a way. I think a penalty system that deducts points from your championship standing would tone it down since it's ranked. Also smaller grids tend to have cleaner racing as well.
Ouuuuuu someone salty about that last minute ram
@@savagetuner2404 Hey if people have a problem with it them here's a lil solution.
I think they should just make ghosting more sensitive. Putting in a penalty system in an arcade racer is really excessive and a waste of effort for little result.
Because in horizon, car diversity is so high that each car has vastly different braking points and handing capabilities, so accidental bumps are pretty much inevitable. Sims don’t have this because cars in a class are balanced to perform really similarly.
Yeye penalty when ranked points is frozen for few months
I don't like the wall riding thing , sometimes someone side slams me into a wall and it slows me down. But I do like the anti ramming , I can just phase through people in corners now , which helps me a lot since I like to use really light really grippy cars that tend to be slow. But I do miss the huge collisions in corners that was really fun
I think ramming should be enabled for casual races it was fun indeed
@ my favourites were when my Huayra got spun on a bridge and they rammed me sideways across it and fh3 , this one guy in I'm guessing was the mercury coupe kept ramming everyone but I was using my noble m600 which had fully open diffs so it could spin really fast, just kept bating him into ramming me and spinning as he hit me so he'd just slam himself into a wall
@@Rose_Butterfly98 I love when in s2 class races,when hard turn comes up and everybody just slams each other to walls with 250 km/h it's just hilarious.You cant see that with ghost mode:/
@ yeah. I still remember hitting the wall infront of everyone so they'd bump into me on the exit of the corner
They should just do live time trials already, cuz that's where this is heading.
Genuinely would bring me back to the game if you could race against ghosts 😂
@@0ffaI In custom races you can race against ghosts
Good old days... Became fun memories for me even tho I hated online back then
6:57 Ah yes, sticking corners, I'm familiar with those
Thats is the problem: in ranked we run by points (and its so anoying when we no have nothing after a good race or good position), but in general we running for fun, that is the idea!..., and we still having that problem in ranked becuse we not have a ban system..., so, we only have patience and good luck in our racing games...
And also you have a better chance finding really skilled drivers too
4:49 I can just hear Exquiztt just rage in the background with his Italian accent
but they fixed the wall-riding issue
Nope they didn't as you can still wallride on some tracks
@@EgoismG60 I never see anybody wall ride in adventures anymore (at least on purpose), so I think he's right, they did fix it.
ua-cam.com/video/IBpDPBqOSVc/v-deo.html ye “fixed” the wall riding lmao
Somehow they made it more annoying. When someone pushes you into a wall you get penalty which makes it more unfair than before.
KartoffelWilli Peter “fix”, forza is real good at covering up a problem with another problem. This game might as well be made by EA.
Channel name: IsuckAtDriving
**Proceeds to climb up from last to first**
6:55 Proof to why you never give up
Don't you just love it when your rammed off the track by your TEAMMATE
1:24 got me crying 😭😭 rip bro in whatever that was LOL
I like how you pass them cleanly only caring about good racing lines while they only care about ramming you
That last race was one of the cleanest races I’ve ever seen on this game tbh
You know how in motorsport games there's that Monza turn 1 clusterheck? In horizon 4 we have things like that Road Circuit in that little southern village, where turn 1 is an almost 90 degree left. I think that turn really benefits the anti ramming patch
Plot twist: uses alternate/bot accounts to remove rammers by mass reporting.
I really think you should have changed your youtube to Grandma Driving instead of changing Forza to Isuckatdriving
Actually I think both should just be MySisterWasGateRaped
Man chose his battles right. And great instincts on choosing the breaking points and race line.
You make the game look fun af
I can't believe ISAD has fans with tribute screen names. Amazing.
Things that will never get fixed but REALLY need to be:
1 - Either turn ghost Mode on or off. Or fix it. It doesn’t really work inbetween as the AI doesn’t detect certain things like when someone uses you as a cushion slams you into the barrier but you get slowed for 3 seconds. And they fly away happy as Larry.
2 - Let us choose race type. At least between road racing and off road. Who really wants to do free roam Rush? Or cross country in general. Free roam Rush gives me high blood pressure and grey hairs 😂
3 - Fix team ranked where when you win the race finishing first place against all their team, but some of them rage quit the game right at the end so you get all points deducted despite beating the whole team you may end up with 100/200 points for beating the two dudes who didn’t quit.
The sad thing is this isn't a ANTI raining patch, this is just mandatory ghost mode.
Only if you are trying to ram people. For normal drivers you won’t ever be ghosted
@@zachb1706 I literally get ghosted and just go straight through people in corners because I have better braking, there's no overtaking in corners anymore, just get good brakes and you just phase right through.
0:25 when your custom character appears in a cutscene moment
i can't stop looking at how beautiful the GTC4 lusso design is and how gracefully it offroads
Can we also talk about how, for some reason, free roam rush is still a thing in rally races?
You wanna know a simple idea to solve this? No respawns. If your car is too badly damaged then u have to abandon the race. It will push ppl to play safer and fair. But there's a downside, if u get rammed u will probably lose the race with no fault of your own, but that's racing. Just like real life
Just casually playing on a keyboard with no traction control or abs. Seriously impressive
The game is easier to play with keyboard than with anything else
@I henry I i played it both ways but you can disagree ok
@Tristen Wu Yup, unless you tap brake or brake early and steer into corneer its impossible to properly do it. Its fine in Motorpsport since, its slower paced, but Horizon is more agressive on cornering so, no way.
Not all kb players need abs. I play with no assists whatsoever (even w/o driving line). Just set your brakes to about 45-50% pressure. You can still brake normally at your regular braking points (if not slightly before) and you don't need to worry about locking up. Easy peasy :P
@@ivanhendriks7095 Huh, didn't see option for changing pressure on KB, only for controller, where did you find it?
The before the patch has the "Tryhards racing each other at the WMMT arcade machines" vibe I'm not even mad.
Imagine playing a racing game where you can literally go through the other cars instead of trying to overtake
you cant really do that, if you are trying to corner at a proper speed, then the game wont ghost you out, if you are fast enough to get ghosted, you wont turn the corner. there are really 2 options, either you are going stupidly fast, or theyre going extra slow for some reason
@@ozguridisstudent5519 some cars (like apollo) can just ignore braking points though. with around 100-200 cars per class it becomes really unbalanced. half my overtakes in races is because of me taking better corners.
If "Got ya b####" was a meme.... your hunt down and finishes are something else
So now it’s just about whoever’s car is fastest?
Anti-ram patches only work for mostly front to back high-speed collisions but not side to side. That's why nothing really changed about griefers because they can still ram you from the side in a turn.
"iblowISADdaily" LMAOOOOOO
Awesome video epic driving epic funny moments 😂i love that video of your where one guy was speeding and crash while playing song gas gas gas i can't wait to see you in forza horizon 5 i think you should do full gameplay because you are very epic in driving games
So we've established that unranked is fun and ranked is toxic.
5:48 me thinking that I'm too noob to see the difference, actually trying to see a difference and then... U do this to me...
Can we take a moment to appreciate the name of "iblowISADdaily" in the second race
HUGE comeback at the end!
"IblowISADdaily" can you confirm that?
But if you close your eyes
Does it almost feel like *nothings changed at all*
only difference is people now ram smarter
I've seen low speed ramming. They hit you, since they're slow, you miss the checkpoint, your race is ruined.
I've honestly had great experiences racing in unranked. Even had people messaging thanking me for a good race. As long as there is no driver ratings it'll never be perfect, but right now it's still pretty decent.
Same, I also have been messaging some good and fair drivers in the past and have been messaged too. :) Unfortunately it seems this is not possible anymore in the Xbox Console Companion, at least not without sending a friend request.
There are still some rammers which can make races frustrating, but it seems the majority now at least doesn't ram on purpose.
How do you play with a keyboard? That’s so damn hard
Tap steering. No different to high level controller play when you think about it.
@@darkchild130 I can't imagine trying to drive without proper throttle control, thats a way bigger deal than steering, not being able to ease on the throttle to stay at the limit of grip would fuck with me
The game chat's full of warm compliments 😌
6:56 oooof
@2:04 for me, it was this one
1:23 "just came back into the circuit like a idiot" -Lace Strol
At least you can play online... I just get disconnected every 2 mins
For those having connectivity issues on PC with forza online running the following command in command prompt in admin mode will fix the issue "netsh int ipv6 set teredo client teredo.trex.fi"
www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/hwzl7a/for_those_having_connectivity_issues/?
@@andoniliev3857 already tried this, doesnt work. Forza support have no idea why it's happening.
That’s a pretty good looking game of bumper cars
Auto slowdown for literally love taping a wall is the most annoying thing ever.
I love how you can see MitchCactus just blatantly wallriding
I don’t get it, why they don’t make everyone ghosted in ranked.
There is, its called Rivals
This is why I do friendly, informal races with my friends.
Seems like nothing changed and they should just make the cars ghosts all race I guess lol
Are you saying that it was not always like that? And you didn't have a ghost mode at the starting line and no ghosting on high speed collisions?
I began to play FH4 in October 2020. I had no idea that ranked was that way for 2 years since the release.
honestly, the rammers made the game fun and all the wall timers and slow ruined the game for me because people can hit you into a wall and you get the slow timer. just get rid of the bs and let the mayhem come back.
Loving your videos, keep up the good work!
Mitch cactus thats the youtuber that scams everybody loooool
The guy that sells accounts or something?
@@rahatchoudhury175 yeah, and its a scam, it gets banned on the first day and he doesn’t give you another one
Oh maybe it'll be vastly impro~
*K U U L V I B R A T I O N S*
... fuck.
Damn that was some good driving holy cow
I love the anti - rammer wall, also I love the high speed collision to make the ghost effect to avoid rammers, but I hate when I crash with my car and make it slow :)
i love your forza horizon 4 videos
i love your vids. keep it up
He takes the chequed flag now to win on tarmac and dirt track. Oh yeah mate. That’s the drive which I want to see. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 very strong run
4:15 🤚made me jump 6ft😳
I just hate how when you lightly touch a wall it forces you to slow down that shit pissed me off so much I stoped playing that game
IMO, FH4 should include some game modes like :
- purist (no anti-ramming, no ghosting, no anti-wall-run, only pure arcade racing)
- something like "skillist" (anti-ramming, no wall-run, no contact possible, only pure skill)
- sportsmanship (no wall-run, but contact allowed, only pure sportsmanship)
What do you think?
FH4 before anti-ramming patch: HAHA! wall ride goes brrrrrrr
The best way to prevent ramming is to make physics and damage more realistic. If you ram a car, you're going to fuck up your own car and probably going to break down. In the old Forzas that's how it was. Damage was more than cosmetic.
That M4 compared to other cars was loud as hell
I was like 'well didn't change too much lol" and then he said exactly same xD
2:03 lmao. Who knew hitting the rail could be helpful.
that dude, that got screwed out of his W in the first part gotta be mad as hell.. it was like 100m to the finish line :D
So you say you control your car with your keyboard?
* Arms get tendosynovits flashbacks*
My respect.
Amazing finish
That unranked race looked like a wet dream man...
Love the intro
He could gave made a lot of money with those nice driving complimation. Lots of views and never got boring.
4:15 scared the shit outta me
The other white bentley still had the audacity to say "My bad..."
Unless you're going up hill, don't hold your upshifts till the rev limiter when your on higher gears at high speeds. It depends on the gear ratios, but I've generally found its harder for the car to accelerate at near redline in 5th than if I went into 6th.
Try it out and let me know.
During the current Trial some Prestige 4 decided to knock me off track purposefully because I was ahead and drive away.
Uhh... Really sad to see Mitch Cactus driving like that...
The mp4 still hold a position in my heart even after other mclaren came
Seems like I can finally come back to the game