And those are unstable. I respect their work, but they charge almost 100 bucks per year per CPU for an enterprise subscription fee and I think that is too much for home users. So we have to live with an unstable branch of the repository. I'm not happy about that. I really wonder why nobody mirrors the enterprise repository for the pirates out there.
I haven't experienced any problems with their non-subscription updates and I've been using them for a while now And bear in mind, although companies may pay a lot of money for software updates they are rarely guaranteed to be stable I've watched vendors over the years release updates for their own hardware that you had to pay for and these still resulted in a server stopping working And these are the only vendors that could do such rigorous testing to give you stable updates, yet they still slipped up At the end of the day, even if you pay for annual patching, you still have to test them first Given what Proxmox are giving away for free here, I've certainly no complaints myself
@@TechTutorialsDavidMcKone thanks for your response and thus time. Yes, I can see how you are right. Even a two-week period of testing cannot guarantee a flawless system. However, it's obvious that the enterprise branch is more stable than the no-enterprise branch due to such two-week testing period after all. The reason for my concern is that I lately had a VM that was incapable to operate with due to qmp command failures. I wasn't able to stop it, I wasn't able to reset it. I made another update, because I think there was a bug in the system and only a restart of the entire host would solve the issue so that my VM would be able to operate again. A system start that causes all services to shut off for various minutes is not desirable, although there are redundancy solutions if this was a critical environment, which it is not (yet). Still as a home user who runs his own services (at the moment) I would love to get a premium subscription, if it was a little cheaper.
This was very helpful! It's especially nice when your system responds the same as the on in the video! I'm all updated now and I have this video saved for future reference. Well done. Also I really liked the photos of Audrey, Marilyn and Elizabeth! Classic photos make for a great background for your videos. Jean Harlow's photo, from Judge Harry Stone's office...(Night Court), would make a wonderful addition to your collection. Again, thank you for your video! Liked and Subscribed.
Good to know the video was helpful I don't have any room for Jean Harlow though The wall to my left, which is out of view, has Vivien Leigh And behind me is a Tolkien theme 😀
@@TechTutorialsDavidMcKone Vivien is a good choice too. Ava would be a good addition as well. Looks like you're gonna need a bigger studio! haha I'll checkout the link you sent. Thanks for that!
it's too good to be true, the catch is the non-subscription repository is for testing not for production, so the people who think they can use proxmox in production for free they wrong.
That's absolutely correct, these patches are not intended for production use Although I've used them in labs and on home servers without problems But any sensible business should pay for a subscription There is a community plan to just get access to the Enterprise Repository But technical support is nearly always much cheaper than downtime
Saw another YouToober going through this and after doing the 'apt-upgrade' he did 'upgrade-grub' and 'upgrade-initramfs'. Yours was the better explanation, but is it just a case of diffrent strokes ?
A simple change of that file works for me I don't see how upgrades for the bootloader or intramfs would have any relevance to disabling the subscription warning Those commands relate to the Debian OS which is what provides the virtualisation PVE is an overlay to make the KVM management easier and that's what's warning of a missing subscription The Debian OS itself is entirely free and doesn't require a subscription
Great Video Appreciate your sharing knowledge. Can or should we do a limited version upgrade. If YES what will be the way to select the same. Say move from 7.1 to 7.2 While the latest is 7.3. Why I ask this is that are these upgrades stable (OR these are bug fixes) when released or should we stay a version lower than the latest one
As ever it depends It's usually best to use the latest version as long as that version isn't too new If it was only released last week or even last month, it hasn't had enough time for new bugs to be detected and reported and the last thing you want is to upgrade to a version that makes the computer unusable Having said that, a majority security fix can take precedence If there's a chance of a vulnerability being exploited on a computer then an upgrade to the newer version is essential
@@bhupindersingh3880 It just connects to the repositories and downloads what's there So if you don't want the latest version then wait until it has been out longer I'm not seeing a manual option for updates other than to install over the top from an ISO
If you want to learn more about Proxmox VE, this series will help you out
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And those are unstable. I respect their work, but they charge almost 100 bucks per year per CPU for an enterprise subscription fee and I think that is too much for home users. So we have to live with an unstable branch of the repository. I'm not happy about that. I really wonder why nobody mirrors the enterprise repository for the pirates out there.
I haven't experienced any problems with their non-subscription updates and I've been using them for a while now
And bear in mind, although companies may pay a lot of money for software updates they are rarely guaranteed to be stable
I've watched vendors over the years release updates for their own hardware that you had to pay for and these still resulted in a server stopping working
And these are the only vendors that could do such rigorous testing to give you stable updates, yet they still slipped up
At the end of the day, even if you pay for annual patching, you still have to test them first
Given what Proxmox are giving away for free here, I've certainly no complaints myself
@@TechTutorialsDavidMcKone thanks for your response and thus time. Yes, I can see how you are right. Even a two-week period of testing cannot guarantee a flawless system. However, it's obvious that the enterprise branch is more stable than the no-enterprise branch due to such two-week testing period after all. The reason for my concern is that I lately had a VM that was incapable to operate with due to qmp command failures. I wasn't able to stop it, I wasn't able to reset it. I made another update, because I think there was a bug in the system and only a restart of the entire host would solve the issue so that my VM would be able to operate again. A system start that causes all services to shut off for various minutes is not desirable, although there are redundancy solutions if this was a critical environment, which it is not (yet). Still as a home user who runs his own services (at the moment) I would love to get a premium subscription, if it was a little cheaper.
Just ran this and worked on 7.3-3. Thanks for the great, easy-to-follow video!
Thanks for the update and glad to hear the video was helpful
This works for Proxmox 7.3 as well. Helped me out greatly, thank you!
Thanks for the feedback and good to hear the video was useful
Just went from 7.2-4 to 7.4-3 so I could take advantage of the new "dark mode"
Thank you for this video!
Now that is a good feature to have
I have a weird use case but this helped me make the jump from 7.3 to 7.4 and then use 7to8 to upgrade to proxmox 8. Thank you very much!
Thanks for the feedback and good to know the video helped
This was very helpful! It's especially nice when your system responds the same as the on in the video! I'm all updated now and I have this video saved for future reference. Well done.
Also I really liked the photos of Audrey, Marilyn and Elizabeth! Classic photos make for a great background for your videos. Jean Harlow's photo, from Judge Harry Stone's office...(Night Court), would make a wonderful addition to your collection.
Again, thank you for your video! Liked and Subscribed.
Good to know the video was helpful
I don't have any room for Jean Harlow though
The wall to my left, which is out of view, has Vivien Leigh
And behind me is a Tolkien theme 😀
@@TechTutorialsDavidMcKone Vivien is a good choice too. Ava would be a good addition as well. Looks like you're gonna need a bigger studio! haha
I'll checkout the link you sent. Thanks for that!
Works perfectly, you gain a new subscriber. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback and sub
And good to know the video was useful
Thanks for this video. Was very straightforward and helpful.
Thanks for the feedback, always good to know if a video was helpful or not
nice it worked! thank you David
Good to know it's working
I just wanted to say thank you. I am a little new to Proxmox and this helped me update!!!
Good to know the video was helpful
thanks for the demo and info, have a great day
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it
Great help. Thank you!
Good to know the video was helpful
Thank you - clear and helpful
Good to know the video was helpful
Been using Proxmox for months and never knew this. Thanks, it helps a lot!
Good to know it was helpful
I don't like to reboot my servers, but it was 100% useful. Thanks
Good to hear the video was helpful
very nice tutorial, well presented. It helped as well. Thank you sir. Liked.
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it
And glad you found this useful
Just info. When it say Y/n in the comandline, just press enter. The Capital Y means that it is default so just need enter
That's true
it's too good to be true, the catch is the non-subscription repository is for testing not for production, so the people who think they can use proxmox in production for free they wrong.
That's absolutely correct, these patches are not intended for production use
Although I've used them in labs and on home servers without problems
But any sensible business should pay for a subscription
There is a community plan to just get access to the Enterprise Repository
But technical support is nearly always much cheaper than downtime
thanks ;) that was significantly easier than I thought it would be
Yeah, I thought it was going to require CLI work but then spotted the option in the GUI 😃
Well done thank you 👍
Thanks for the feedback, I always appreciate it
And good to hear you found this helpful
Works :)
Good to know, thanks for the feedback
Thanks!
Good to know the video was useful so thanks for the feedback
Saw another YouToober going through this and after doing the 'apt-upgrade' he did 'upgrade-grub' and 'upgrade-initramfs'. Yours was the better explanation, but is it just a case of diffrent strokes ?
A simple change of that file works for me
I don't see how upgrades for the bootloader or intramfs would have any relevance to disabling the subscription warning
Those commands relate to the Debian OS which is what provides the virtualisation
PVE is an overlay to make the KVM management easier and that's what's warning of a missing subscription
The Debian OS itself is entirely free and doesn't require a subscription
Thank you so much! I'm testing this at home and no way can I pay their subscription fee.
Thanks for the feedback, it's really appreciated
Great Video Appreciate your sharing knowledge.
Can or should we do a limited version upgrade. If YES what will be the way to select the same.
Say move from 7.1 to 7.2 While the latest is 7.3.
Why I ask this is that are these upgrades stable (OR these are bug fixes) when released or should we stay a version lower than the latest one
As ever it depends
It's usually best to use the latest version as long as that version isn't too new
If it was only released last week or even last month, it hasn't had enough time for new bugs to be detected and reported and the last thing you want is to upgrade to a version that makes the computer unusable
Having said that, a majority security fix can take precedence
If there's a chance of a vulnerability being exploited on a computer then an upgrade to the newer version is essential
@@TechTutorialsDavidMcKone Can we specify the version in the no subscription mode?
@@bhupindersingh3880 It just connects to the repositories and downloads what's there
So if you don't want the latest version then wait until it has been out longer
I'm not seeing a manual option for updates other than to install over the top from an ISO
thank you!!
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it
And good to know the video was useful
life saver content. thanks.
Good to know the video was helpful
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