Vortex PST 1-6 vs Razor 1-6 E

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  • Опубліковано 8 лип 2020
  • Comparing the Vortex PST Gen2 1-6 to its famous big brother, the Razor Gen2 1-6 E.
    Military use of PST discussed here:
    www.defensereview.com/tactica...
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  • @FromTheShelves
    @FromTheShelves 2 роки тому +80

    This dude single handedly saved me 600 bucks. You sir, were the hero we needed.

    • @TacticalAccountants
      @TacticalAccountants  2 роки тому +8

      That’s what we’re here for

    • @pat554
      @pat554 2 роки тому

      @@TacticalAccountants Second this comment. Answered any question I could have thought of. Thank you sir

  • @adibee88
    @adibee88 3 роки тому +74

    THIS has to be the MOST THOROUGH Comparison I've ever seen!
    Thank You for your HOURS invested, diligence, accurate testing basis and variety of environments!
    Amazing Work; PST it is!

  • @MattChat56
    @MattChat56 3 роки тому +93

    Absolutely the best breakdown video I have seen. Answered my questions perfectly. Thank you.

    • @jantonie420
      @jantonie420 3 роки тому

      So what did you go for

    • @Daniel08353
      @Daniel08353 3 роки тому

      He lacked consistent on some of his comparisons; it they were well enough to show just how marginal their differences are. I liked his effort.

    • @madeintexas1213
      @madeintexas1213 3 роки тому +1

      @@Daniel08353 I take it you bought a razor?

    • @Daniel08353
      @Daniel08353 3 роки тому

      @@madeintexas1213 I bought the Vortex. It’s marginal on differences. I won’t use it 300 times a year, to find that “little bit” of difference worth my while.
      I use a chainsaw a ton - so I bought a very reliable professional: since I use it so much, and find “that little bit” of difference very worthwhile.

    • @themann4633
      @themann4633 3 роки тому

      Viper PST is fully suitable for 99.99% of CONUS users. Save the money and buy the ammo to TRAIN. Tacticool guys fail to realize that "operator" equipment does not make them better shooters, it just makes them look stupider when they fail to perform in front of actual operators. Perfect training makes perfect.

  • @clockworkbadger2363
    @clockworkbadger2363 3 роки тому +9

    This is one of the better equipment reviews I have seen on youtube, and I watch a TON of reviews. Very useful info! Thank you!

  • @xj2736
    @xj2736 2 роки тому +6

    Man I am so thankful for the time and effort you took to take a deep look into these scopes. Not only do you help us learn, but you help us make a well informed decision.
    I was really planning on going for the Razor especially for the cool color but I cannot deny the quality of the PST for the price point. It was such a shock to see the clarity of the eye sight chart at 50 yards. Thank you!

  • @dmisov
    @dmisov 3 роки тому +20

    Excellent review. I was drooling over the Razor. This video makes me feel like I didn't just "settle" for the viper i ordered today. Made me feel good. Thank you!

  • @mr.excitement689
    @mr.excitement689 3 роки тому +19

    I do love how the razor makes everything seem to disappear vs knowing you’re looking through a scope. Great review. Liked and new sub.

  • @sniperwiper09
    @sniperwiper09 3 роки тому +8

    you nailed this video, this has every bit of information needed to make an informed choice, with linked sources and no fluff, audio and video are both great for a small channel too other a little reverb from no sound dampening but thats picking nits, keep it up and youll go far bud, thanks for the show and tell.

    • @TacticalAccountants
      @TacticalAccountants  3 роки тому

      Bladed Fingers Working on improving the audio going forward. Thanks for watching and for the constructive criticism.

  • @HoneyBadgerB
    @HoneyBadgerB 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for taking the time on the one. Been torn between holding out for a "better" optic but after that I have confidence in the PST.

  • @johnbowden9578
    @johnbowden9578 4 роки тому +23

    Great review sir!
    Bought two PST rather than waiting. Wife is very happy.

  • @D_KimRaiders
    @D_KimRaiders 3 роки тому +3

    Got the Viper as the Razor was out of my price range and could not be happier. Great review!

  • @mborski8721
    @mborski8721 Рік тому

    2 years later.....my PST is on the way. One of the best reviews I've seen on the PST. Thank you

  • @duckhunter4660
    @duckhunter4660 3 роки тому +1

    Hands down the best optic review ever!! And it was between two optics I am considering. Thank you very much!!!

  • @anthonyjose5644
    @anthonyjose5644 7 місяців тому

    You did an amazing job with this video especially with night shots this is what I want to see. I greatly appreciate it

  • @bigmike716
    @bigmike716 2 роки тому +3

    You saved me $600. I bought the PST gen 2 and haven't regretted it once. I LOVE THIS OPTIC!!! Thanks again brother!

  • @toriushauser7143
    @toriushauser7143 3 роки тому +1

    Outstanding effort to compare the two! Great work

  • @SabertoothDefenseSystems
    @SabertoothDefenseSystems 2 роки тому

    Excellent breakdown! It wasn't convoluted with all kinds of fluff. Simply a comparison between the two with excellent footage. Subscribed.

  • @ricksters11
    @ricksters11 3 роки тому +3

    Nice review, well thought out and helps me make a better decision as I am leaning towards a new optic. Budget is always the biggest consideration for the regular guy like us, living in that 80-20 world!

  • @thehilliardarmory6041
    @thehilliardarmory6041 3 роки тому +1

    Fabulous video dude. So glad I stumbled upon it. Now I know which route I’m going with my SD setup. Thank you so much for uploading!

  • @jakemerica
    @jakemerica 3 роки тому +3

    Excellent comparison and review. I'm in the market for my first LPVO. The PST is definitely high on my list.

  • @LARPeratorsAnonymous
    @LARPeratorsAnonymous 4 роки тому +3

    I was one of the poor souls who ordered the Viper PST Gen II the first week of July. The estimated ship date is 9/30 😭. I have played with the razor at my lgs, never the viper. Excited to get my hands on it. This review made me even more excited. Thanks man!

    • @TacticalAccountants
      @TacticalAccountants  4 роки тому +1

      Anytime! You're right to be excited. I didn't realize just how great it was until I had a chance to compare to the Razor.

  • @viaoutdoors
    @viaoutdoors 2 роки тому +1

    Earned a sub for this amazing comparison. Thank you for your hard work on this video.

  • @joelj3971
    @joelj3971 3 роки тому

    Awesome comparison between these two scopes, thx for a great video!

  • @mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956
    @mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956 3 роки тому +2

    Great review. I just bought my second PST 1-6 today 😎🤙🏻

  • @farmernat65
    @farmernat65 3 роки тому +8

    I have both and I agree with you 100%. Only thing you didn’t mention was that the PST does have noticeably shorter eye relief on 6x than 1. Unlike the razor which the eye relief stays consistent throughout the magnification range.
    Also the eye box on 6X is noticeably better on the razor.
    If I was to sum it up in one sentence, I would say the PST is better on 1x and the razor is better on 6x.

  • @Absdrakt
    @Absdrakt 3 роки тому +3

    Dope review man, this one really helped me out a lot on making my decision. PST it is !! I like to stay in that mid-range area of budget and quality. The PST fits the bill

  • @jahbuny
    @jahbuny Рік тому

    Old review but gah damn this needs more likes. Thank you so much for putting this together sir

  • @GoDucks.2001
    @GoDucks.2001 3 роки тому +3

    10/10 review my dude. You've got a new subscriber.

  • @Ajbuck68
    @Ajbuck68 2 роки тому

    This is very helpful. Thank you so much for the thorough comparison!

  • @SOCMMOB
    @SOCMMOB 2 роки тому

    What a great comparison and an amazing video. Why did it take so long for me to stumble on it?! I’ve been looking at LPVOs for a loooong time

  • @chatnasty
    @chatnasty 3 роки тому +3

    This is an excellent comparison. I would have liked to see the comparison of the illumination in a daytime setting.

  • @khann844
    @khann844 2 роки тому

    thanks for the video. I was trying to decide between the viper 1-6 or the Trijicon credo 1-6 and your video helped me more then any other on you tube so thanks!

    • @TacticalAccountants
      @TacticalAccountants  2 роки тому +1

      You’re very welcome. If you haven’t already, check out the Delta Stryker HD 1-6. We are testing one now. It looks like a very compelling alternative to other 1-6 LPVOs

  • @arobinson1602
    @arobinson1602 2 роки тому

    Really well balanced review and good user color beyond the numbers you can pull off the Vortex site - thank you!

  • @a.c.niyikiza8625
    @a.c.niyikiza8625 3 роки тому +6

    Thoroughly demonstrable and qualifiable comparison 👏🏾. Best I’ve heard or seen.
    I have a strike eagle 1-6x I snagged for $300 and after this review I’m questioning my choice 🤦🏾‍♂️. It is my introductory LPVO.

    • @Interpolation1911
      @Interpolation1911 2 роки тому

      Strike Eagle is awesome for the price! Good choice. I have the 1-8 on my DDV7 Pro. I recently bought the PST VIPER for my DDM4A1.

    • @a.c.niyikiza8625
      @a.c.niyikiza8625 2 роки тому

      @@Interpolation1911 Thanks man, I appreciate it.
      Is the extra 2x magnification much helpful? If so, at what ranges have you found it to be?

    • @Interpolation1911
      @Interpolation1911 2 роки тому

      @@a.c.niyikiza8625 My eyes are not the greatest so i would say the extra 2x is good at 100-125 yrds. I know it can go 150 with no issues.

    • @frankopanklaric
      @frankopanklaric 2 роки тому

      Strike eagle is good. It is recommended for a reason.

  • @Golgafrinchamdent
    @Golgafrinchamdent 2 роки тому

    Excellent comparison, thankyou for taking the time.

  • @jjsgame7683
    @jjsgame7683 3 роки тому

    Dude~ Thanks for this review, and I'm so satisfied with my VST now.

  • @ChaseBerry
    @ChaseBerry 2 роки тому

    This is an amazing review and comparison. Subscribed!

  • @Ashurus
    @Ashurus 3 роки тому +21

    Great comparison and thanks for digging up that Vortex forum post where they say the Viper is 85-90% of the Razor!

    • @TacticalAccountants
      @TacticalAccountants  3 роки тому +5

      Honestly it's a good thing I found that post after recording most of the footage. Otherwise I might have thought the video wasn't worth making since Vortex themselves said what I wanted to.

    • @HugoStiglitz1000
      @HugoStiglitz1000 3 роки тому

      Agree 100%. Thank you for helping me make my decision Tactical Accountant! SUB

  • @steveg3593
    @steveg3593 3 роки тому

    Awesome comparison video. Good job!

  • @divejumpshooter6947
    @divejumpshooter6947 3 роки тому +6

    I feel the same I have the both I had the Viper and went with a Razor for m other rifle thinking hmmm it'll be at least 2x better. It is great, I am keeping it but if I ever decide to replace my ACOG which I have for sentimental reasons (I think) since we used it in my unit. I'll go with the Viper. I'll also say after using everything from Elcan to Aimpoint, Eotech, Trijicon etc to the Vortex type sights the LPVO is my go to optic. The ACOG and the LPVO sights are truthfully the only optics that give me a CQB through 300 yard significant improvement in acquisition > shot > accuracy/time over Iron sights which I used for many years before optics became popular.

  • @AmokBro2
    @AmokBro2 2 роки тому

    Great comparison! Very informative and helpful.

  • @MotoJB
    @MotoJB Рік тому +1

    Great review, thanks!! I'm a Razor Gen II owner looking for another LVPO...was struggling to "settle" for the PST on my other build but after watching this, not as much. The cost difference between the PST and a Razor, is about $450 at this time, and that $450 buys a mount and a backup 45 degree RDS to go with the PST. No brainer it seems. The only things you didn't cover was eye relief and eye box between the two at 1x and 6x. That's another huge consideration...and once you go Razor, looking through something that has a thicker, noticeable bezel, might be tough.

  • @mjhac2685
    @mjhac2685 3 роки тому

    Awesome video dude, really helped my decision, thanks man!

  • @mrwaddahshooter
    @mrwaddahshooter 3 роки тому +5

    Great video. Underrated channel

  • @fisherofmenmatt4194
    @fisherofmenmatt4194 2 роки тому +7

    I think the issue is when it comes down to this level, small improvements are very costly to obtain.

  • @BB-ly3dh
    @BB-ly3dh 3 роки тому

    Great comparison. I have the viper, love it. And it does draw ligh very well at night, i was pleasantly suprised, thought that it wouldnt b great since it is a 24mm

  • @RichM0410
    @RichM0410 3 роки тому +1

    Wow! Your time invested and then sharing the info is greatly appreciated. I felt all along you’d go with the pst. Razor to rich for my blood. Lol Thank you!

  • @jasoncuda8910
    @jasoncuda8910 Рік тому

    Excellent review. Thank you for your time and effort. Peace brother.

  • @theoldculture216
    @theoldculture216 Рік тому +1

    So glad I seen this. I looked at the Vortex strike eagle 1-8x24 ffp and the Viper 1-6x24. Looked at both and will say the the Viper destroyed the strike eagle. Thank you for the information sir.

  • @jakek7112
    @jakek7112 3 роки тому

    Awesome work man I’m subbed!

  • @thomasbrown9313
    @thomasbrown9313 3 роки тому

    Fantastic review man

  • @OrinVII
    @OrinVII 4 місяці тому

    I am the proud owner of two PST's. One for my 8.6 blackout and one for my supressed 300 blackout. By far the best optic in my collection. Can't beat the value you get for $500! Thanks for the great review dude!!

  • @556ChannelHD
    @556ChannelHD 3 роки тому

    WOW, you did the damn thing. Nice evaluation!!

  • @ibonihs
    @ibonihs 3 роки тому

    dude EXCELLENT video. good job

  • @randomstuff0331
    @randomstuff0331 2 роки тому

    Awesome review man. Thanks you.

  • @beauberger1793
    @beauberger1793 2 роки тому

    I had the razor in my cart. Went to check out and it was sold out. I was so bummed because it was available for just under 1000 new with the BDC reticle.
    At the time, I thought well what about the viper.... so I ordered it..... and this video confirmed my hopeful research.

  • @oskarbernstrom1519
    @oskarbernstrom1519 Рік тому

    What a great review! Thanks man :)

  • @duncan6987
    @duncan6987 3 роки тому

    Best video I've seen on this optic. Probably gonna buy a viper because of you. Thanks!

  • @sleekfast11
    @sleekfast11 2 роки тому +1

    A few comments....1) thankyou for the detailed review...appreciate it, 2) Don't think you mentioned that both optics are 2nd focal plane (SFP), 3) I don't know why youtube reviews like your's don't also include a segment viewing customer comments about the optic on manufacturer's website and addressing them....for example, customer comments that pst 1-6 "eyebox eye relief" wasn't good...meaning that a slight change in alignment of eye to just a fraction off center made it really difficult to use optic. Don't know if this is normal, but I know it's something I want to be informed about before I pay the $$$,

  • @jam00723
    @jam00723 3 роки тому

    Dude, what a great review. Awesome job.

  • @sc7145
    @sc7145 3 роки тому

    Great review you sold me on the pst.

  • @NicsFlix
    @NicsFlix 3 роки тому +1

    Great comparison! You should definitely do more of these. Have you tried the swamp fox?

  • @nathoniel01
    @nathoniel01 Рік тому

    Thank you for this video. Excellent and informative.

  • @2aphilosophy244
    @2aphilosophy244 4 роки тому +1

    This is a very helpful review. I just got a Viper PST Gen II (MOA reticle) and i'm very happy with it. Also, that article you linked to is super interesting. If its good enough for SF, its good enough for me lol.

  • @odyssey888
    @odyssey888 3 роки тому

    Great review!

  • @skoolynugenator1802
    @skoolynugenator1802 2 роки тому +3

    The disappearing bezel is a selling point I think for me. I mean it’s a red dot with six extra power. I think that quality of the razor is astonishing. And right now the heavier version is 900 in places. That’s only 300 more and I think worth it. Going to put it on my POF revolution pistol. Think that should be a deadly deer hunting combo.

  • @M81Mojo
    @M81Mojo 3 роки тому

    Outstanding review

  • @osoaerense2588
    @osoaerense2588 Рік тому

    You should be paid to do these reviews. VERY thorough. Love it. Will forward on to friends.

  • @jessefiorinif6057
    @jessefiorinif6057 3 роки тому +1

    Nice vid with a fair amount of good info, I do own a PST and love it. That said why is the eye focus adjustment so different on the two scopes. I can’t help to think that could make a difference if it was run by the same person setup as shown in the video.

  • @cameronw.4369
    @cameronw.4369 3 роки тому

    Before purchasing my viper I contacted vortex customer support to ask a few questions. The guy I talked to said guys overseas often buy vipers when they're spending their own money to get the optic.

  • @HoneyBeagle
    @HoneyBeagle 2 роки тому

    Just snagged a pst 1-6 tonight. Great first impression and this video sure made me feel better about not having razor money to spend

  • @dn5101
    @dn5101 2 роки тому

    I'm was going today for a viper, but not anymore. Thank you very much

  • @ridehi8083
    @ridehi8083 2 роки тому

    great video and review. thank you.

  • @snapontoolreview
    @snapontoolreview Місяць тому

    Great review very impressive

  • @Patman9966
    @Patman9966 3 роки тому

    Great review!!!

  • @johnp1839
    @johnp1839 2 роки тому +1

    Great video!! Did you find either of these scopes to have a more forgiving eye-box and which one?

  • @jcravoc4223
    @jcravoc4223 2 роки тому

    Hey bro Army medic here. 8years active been deployed multiple times with some sf units, I’m not sf myself but had the luck of being in the right places at the right time. Anyway take my word however you want but I can tell you right now the reason the razors are so much is because of the military contracting. The razors, just like KAC and ACOGs, they don’t really actually provide more for the money. These manufactures just know that while they have the contract they can up the price and 1- the military will still pay for it. And B- civilians will want to look like the military so they will complain and then still pay for it. I know this because I built a true (minus funswitch) m4 clone down to the peq15. I have been wanting a razor 1-6 but only seeing the 1-8. Good thing I found this review now I know to just get a pst and cerakote it that high speed bronze lol. 👍👍👍

  • @themann4633
    @themann4633 3 роки тому

    Thank you, your analysis legit.

  • @padgettproductions1694
    @padgettproductions1694 3 роки тому

    Keep putting this kind of content out

  • @frankopanklaric
    @frankopanklaric 4 роки тому +10

    I went with the PST. You have convinced me. I just couldn't justify the price of the razor to myself. All that leftover money can go to ammo and training in general. I hope I won't regret my decision.

    • @frankopanklaric
      @frankopanklaric 4 роки тому +4

      Update: I'm very happy with my purchase. I couldn't imagine paying double for a minor upgrade. Especially with performance as good as the pst.

  • @dreamit.buildit
    @dreamit.buildit 2 роки тому

    Great comparison video very helpful. If you are open to a little constructive criticism I will say audio quality on the video with the echo sound is hard to listen to. Thanks and great information.

  • @rudolphferdinand3634
    @rudolphferdinand3634 3 роки тому

    I picked up a PST a year ago after watching a three guns match where most 1-6x24mm were PST scopes, and the guy was the UK, but by the way, he exchanged up to the Razor model; why? He had the funds.

  • @outrider6
    @outrider6 Рік тому

    Excellent Review!!! Thank you sir.

  • @mikecarey1424
    @mikecarey1424 3 роки тому

    I have a pst gen 2 for a long gun, it holds up great. What sold me was watching a video where a guy took one and threw it out a car doing 80k mounted it back on and it kept zero.

  • @SpaceBanana69
    @SpaceBanana69 3 роки тому +2

    Sold just ordered one for my Daniel defense

  • @ShooterMedic1818
    @ShooterMedic1818 4 роки тому

    This was a great review

  • @nattybumpo4384
    @nattybumpo4384 2 роки тому

    She's heavy, but every time I look thru the PST I feel validated. Great review!!

  • @themerryprankster9647
    @themerryprankster9647 3 роки тому +1

    When the pst offers the JM reticle I will be more than happy to buy it. I have, to be honest, Been waiting for Vortex to offer that option.

  • @pehenry
    @pehenry 3 роки тому

    Nice comparison. Thanks.

  • @1unkn0wn
    @1unkn0wn 4 роки тому

    Great Comparison! Thank you :)

  • @jki808
    @jki808 Рік тому

    No shit you’re called tactical accountants. Just saved me a lot of time and money on tactical gear. That shot of you under a blanket watching the sopranos with the scope was enough for a subscribe.

  • @nhwnhw02
    @nhwnhw02 Рік тому +1

    Own several of the Viper PST Gen II. They are super clear. Was always Leupold only previously. Couldn't find anything like wanted in a low power variable. Tried one of these on a compact bolt action. At first thought I didn't like the light adjustment relative to the Leupold FireDot. Then with use realized it was so much easier than having to cycle through all the settings to go the other direction. With the Vortex just turn the dial. Off is between each setting. Changing the battery isn't as elegant on the Vortex. Be sure the threads are aligned before tightening. The power adjustment ring is stiff on one PST and not at all on another. Just buy a throw lever ring that is easily mounted.

  • @giovannicastro8052
    @giovannicastro8052 2 роки тому

    Good vid! 🤙🏼

  • @TheYemcl
    @TheYemcl 3 роки тому

    Do you have a review, or can you do a comparison vid, on optics in the (roughly) 2-10X range? This was a refreshingly honest, precise, and helpful review. Subbed.

    • @TacticalAccountants
      @TacticalAccountants  3 роки тому

      We don't have a video specifically on that zoom range but our recent 10/22 scope video might be of interest to you. For what it's worth, I am a big fan of the Vortex PST gen1 2.5-10. Tactile turrets, good glass, and one of the lightest optics in that zoom range with illuminated reticle. Vortex warranty is tough to beat too. Thank you for the kind words.

  • @Matt-dd3cw
    @Matt-dd3cw 2 роки тому

    This was a great video bro. I have a Gen 2 razor 1-6 E-Series, had been debating if Viper 1-6 was good enough for a backup rifle, clearly seems like it is. Thanks again! Eurooptic has the demos for $499 right now

    • @itsrass1378
      @itsrass1378 2 роки тому +1

      I’m thinking about get the razor HD gen 2 1-6 because it only $1000 msrp now because I’m im willing to pay for quality

    • @Matt-dd3cw
      @Matt-dd3cw Рік тому

      @@itsrass1378 I ended up buying both. The Viper 1-6 is on a backup rifle, the razor 1-6 is clearly superior to me. I'm actually looking to buy a 1-10 razor right now for a different rifle

    • @itsrass1378
      @itsrass1378 Рік тому

      @@Matt-dd3cw I have been thinking about it and will end up with both but in the next few months im getting eotech exps3 for the rifle I have now and will build another rifle for midrange shooting.

  • @kelseyarnold6557
    @kelseyarnold6557 3 роки тому +3

    Long story short I traded some gear I wasn't 100% happy with for a razor 1-6 and I'm glad I did, love the razor!
    I recently purchased the viper 1-6 so I've got both.
    If it weren't for the shop willing to trade frankly I'd have stuck with vipers all around.
    Both are phenomenal optics.

    • @46dgarrison
      @46dgarrison 3 роки тому

      The razor quality feels a million times better than my viper. The cheap feeling illumination knob drives me crazy for the price. The turrets feel solid even though they aren’t nearly as smooth as the razors. The glass is by far the best part of the viper.

    • @kelseyarnold6557
      @kelseyarnold6557 3 роки тому

      @@46dgarrison yes sir, the razor is legit. To be frankly honest I no longer have the viper. Upon mounting it and actually going thru some drills and practice the 1x was messing with my eyes meaning it had something like 1.5x and would present a double image. With respect to vortex I think I just got a lemon. I returned the viper and tried an aimpoint pro and I may try the viper again in the future but I really like the pro for now.

  • @aidendirtbikes7914
    @aidendirtbikes7914 3 роки тому

    2:15 are there any other scopes like this that make the housing almost disappear because I really want that in a scope but don’t exactly have $2000

  • @calvins4084
    @calvins4084 2 роки тому

    Thanks for taking the time, can you do vudu 1-8 ?? If you get a chance

  • @fabiomillerphs
    @fabiomillerphs 2 роки тому

    Clever idea with the eye chart.

  • @zumie8703
    @zumie8703 3 роки тому

    You may have answered this either in the video or the comments but what mount are you running on that razor? Appreciate it. Awesome video!