The Best EV? - New Porsche Taycan 4S
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- I'm not the biggest EV fan, this Taycan is the most resolved and fun example I've driven so far!
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*Some footage from this video may be edited and or sped up for cinematic affects.
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Great video Joe, think I'll have to play for the Turbo instead of the I-Pace this week now!
@@Dno1881 Haha cheers man and good luck!
@@JoeAchilles1 cheers Joe all the best!
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I have a Porsche 4s I have the exact same car in my house
Joe, you are fast becoming my favourite car journalist. I love your plain honesty and authenticity and Im not referring to the car reviews. In a world thats driven by fake perceptions I love your hineaty as we all relate. Having said that your car reviews are so well written, edited and enjoyable. Keep doing what you do...you are very good at it and good things will happen.
Thank you Jonny, this is very nice to read and I massively appreciate you taking time to let me know! Cheers and look forward to entertaining you more in the future 👌
108,000k😲 absolutely no chance.
want.
So glad you got this car, you’re one of a very few reviewers who go so deep into the details.
To be fair he is paid to do so
kukluk
This car gives me some relief and hope for the future in which we’re heading with EV’s. Great job Porsche👌🏽 Another 🔥video Joe!👊🏼
Best looking, consistently performing EV out there without a doubt
Joe - charging expressed in terms of power, i.e. Watts. Kilowatts, Megawatts etc.; capacity/usage in kilowatt hours (kWh)!
Why people do mispronounce PorschE?
the best and most detailed review I've seen about the Taycan 👌 brilliant video mate
Brilliant car. Software upgrade now pushes the range > 300 miles if sensible :)
Joe, ALL Tesla's are Fish looking monstrosities! Porsche have nailed the design!
Agreed 👌
porsche is vw.. so do not aspect it will be cheap as tesla. Tesla 6 seats ... so tesla is better.. yes in europe people don't drive so much porsche they know its crap. and i am from europe. Tesla family car and fast as porsche for half or price or even more.
@@MakeSh00t tesla are soooooo unreliable, just check @carwow video when drag racing against lamborghini, they are not for me, one electrical fault and nothing works, interior quality is shocking, the big ipadesuq screen is distracting #fingerprintcentral, it's not a drivers car.... Give me the bmw M760li any day.. Oh by way that is my next car!
@@damindra the diference beetween a 65k € and 150k€, and 65k€ i have for almost same performance, and a lot supercharger station for free, i´ll guess i m a cheap mofo.
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@@general65644 sorry what?
Got to drive the Taycan this week at my Porsche dealer. Beautiful car. Great performance....but....that B pillar is a problem for tall drivers like myself. It is very awkward and difficult to exit the vehicle with ease and dignity. That one issue was a deal breaker for me. I'm 6'4" and don't want to struggle to enter and exit the vehicle.
I'm so happy I'm 6' 2" 🙏
I drove Taycan S at the Porsche Experience in Los Angeles for 90 minutes and it used only 15% of the battery. We did at least 10 launches and multiple track laps and it was hot, I was impressed.
Have been waiting for the Germans to do electric cars that look good, drive well, have good interiors and are quiet on the road. Tesla's are pure engineering exercises but not my cup of tea for a car.
tesla interior sucks but i like their pricing. only thing to hate about standard gas car manufacturers, is that they load it with options. its nice to see that a tesla starts at $x and after options its not too far off.
Probably the only electric car that I am actually interested in, other than maybe the Electric MINI
You and me both. I have the MINI SE now. Just started to save for the Taycan or Taycan cross. But leaning toward Taycan more. Wish that i didnt get the SE, slowed down my saving plan. But at the same time didnt expect that i can save that much faster for a Taycan. Yeah going against every single financial self discipline. But what can i do.
Great video Joe - Yours is the first review I’ve watched of an EV that makes me not feel too worried about the future for us petrol heads! I’m even considering how a Taycan could fit nicely alongside my GT4 now!
I would ditch the sunroof. Cars always look better when the roof is the same colour as the car.
There are more 150kw chargers being made available - Ionity run them and partner with Audi. Will charge up in full in around 45 mins or half in 20 mins
Fun video Joe. A truly great car and you did a wonderful job presenting it to us. SUBSCRIBED as a result. TU.
Thanks 🙏🏼
The Taycan is one of the few electric cars where the external driving sound is actually cool sounding in my opinion.
Thanks for a nice video. I completely agree the two things that blow you away are the ride and acceleration. Lovely! There's a specific place in the rear trunk that fits the charge cable very well by lifting a flap. The front boot will hold a travel bag nicely. Disagree with you on the brakes and you probably noticed it stops faster than the Tesla. There really are no brakes that slow you down from speed to say 5 MPH unless you do a panic stop. It is all regen with over 250 KW so there is no feel of the transition from regen to pads. What you may not have experienced, yet which is also nice is the experience when traveling slow in the higher gear and going to pass someone. It pulls hard, then shifts down to the lower gear and bang; takeoff! One other item you didn't focus on is the map. That is very responsive when you go to adjust it. The really bad news is the APP. There are less functions than there are in my Volt and it's cumbersome. Here's the stop against the Tesla ua-cam.com/video/ItCGU7BTBv8/v-deo.html
Porsh-ah, Joe, Porsch-ah....
You site on a "Porsche"...you drive a "Por-Sche"
Is it true that the Taycan Turbo and Taycan Turbo S are essentially equally fast, if it wasn‘t for Launch Control?
Great review. Fantastic car. Great value also due to interesting tax regulations in Belgium. Where to quickly charge the bloody thing when traveling, remains - unfortunately - a serious turn off.
Epic car setting the standard for others to follow.Shame about the silly name, "turbo' on an electric car,but I did have a turbo hoover, turbo razor and even a turbo toaster back in the eighties .......
Great video in general but I’m personally surprised and a little disappointed that more of the video wasn’t given to driving dynamics, steering feel, feedback, turn in? As a real driver I’d expect more of those aspects from a Joe Achilles video
Porsch ... Porsch ... Porsch 🙄
PorschE! It is not so hard ...
Is that what you girlfriend said?
@@JoeAchilles1 :) Nope, my boyfriend. Two gays like cars, and drive M6 GC and M2. I hope this is not to much for a mind that came up with this flat joke :) Just admit you mutilate the Brands Name.
Thanks for your feedback, we like your channel, look your videos for years because of the BMW content. Best regards from two fans from Germany.
Your courtesy and humility ❤️!
Great video Joe! The filming really showed how rapid this thing is.
I did, however, watch the whole thing waiting for your comments on how the chassis performed and what the steering was like.
Can you do a part 2?
Please?
Great review of an amazing car. Mid roll ads were a pain though. I'm probably in a minority in thinking you should turn them off in sponsored videos.
I watch more youtube content than broadcast TV these days after upgrading to premium. I couldn’t stand the ads.
BMW is best!!
The biggest problem is the cost of these ev's when new ,and the fact that when they are 3 years old they have lost half there value
and very had to sell when they are 3-4 years old.
I wouldn't say this is so true now, maybe a few years ago but things are beginning to change. The Taycan Turbo S in actually cheaper than the Porsche Turbo although we are yet to see what used prices will be like down the line. The Model 3 is similar cost to others cars that size in it segment or cheaper if you go for the Performance model.
I ran a F80m3 back in 2016 £ 64k new as my spec, sold it 18 months later for £ 40k ouch! The M135i I own before that lost money at an alarming rate also. What I and trying to say is the most cars loose 50% value in 3 years. I have now owned my Tesla M3P for 12month cost £ 51k from new. 12month old examples now fetching this sort of price on Autotrader.
Prices of 2014 Nissan Leaf or Renault Zoe are also strong mainly because the market is now growing and beginning to take hold. People are now starting to understand EVs but do not want to spend masses of money on a new car so this is driving up the cost in the second hand market. Simple supply and demand.
I'd imagine (like anything electric powered) the batteries lose their potency after a while? I can't see EV cars making good second hand buys. Correct me if I'm wrong!
@@Chris-nj1mr Most manufacturers have a five to eight-year warranty on their battery. However, the current prediction is that an electric car battery will last from 10 - 20 years before they need to be replaced.
@@richardcorns8553 Thanks for the reply Richard.
Are the warranties transferable to the second owner or is that privilege only for the original buyer?
It's not so much the battery NEEDING to be replaced, more a case of is it gradually degrading? I know my phone battery 2 years on doesn't last anywhere near as long as it did when it was brand new.
The same cannot be said about a combustion engine, they're usually as strong on day one as they are years later.
@@Chris-nj1mr The warranty is with the car not the owner.
The battery on an electric car is a proven technology that will last for many years. In fact, EV manufacturers guarantee it. Nissan warrants that its electric car batteries will last eight years or 120,000 miles, for example, and Tesla offers a similar guarantee.
This might seem remarkable when the battery in your mobile phone begins to wear out after only a couple of years, but during that time it might be fully charged and discharged hundreds of times. Each of these so-called charge cycles counts against the life of the battery: after perhaps 500 full cycles, a lithium-ion phone battery begins to lose a significant part of the capacity it had when new.
While that might be OK in a phone, it's not good enough for a car designed to last many thousands of miles, so EV manufacturers go to great lengths to make electric car batteries last longer. In an EV, batteries are 'buffered', meaning that drivers can't use the full amount of power they store, reducing the number of cycles the battery goes through. Together with other techniques such as clever cooling systems, this means that electric car batteries should give many years of trouble-free life.
I love your reviews man, you are the best! But please buy a better camera. This one is like potato. :/
Just a heads up to anyone else reading about charging stations - the cars won't use the full 50/150KW charging power towards the end of the charging (say after 75-80% capacity) to preserve the battery's long term health. Unless you truly need the max range, I think its generally recommended to not go below 10-20% charge and also not to charge above 85-95% of the max capacity.
For most people, as a commuter this will be completely fine as I don't think I've ever met anyone that commutes more than 200mi (or 100mi each way) per day. That way you can just charge it to max before a long driving stint to reduce the amount you would need to wait at a charging station. Personally I like to take a 30-minute break every 2.5 to 3hrs driving anyway so that would work okay with an EV.
The taycan looks like a crying plastic car...so sad to see
Joe. Great review. Did you miss the heads up display? Your thoughts?
Another great video Joe (as always). A Taycan Turbo S but as a Cross Turismo - estate version - would be my ideal daily. Would still need an Alpina B5 or B3 Touring for European road trips though...
Man it's so good to see reviews with tall people. I'm also 6.4 and the majority of the car reviews are with small people which is not so ideal for me. I went based on reviews, to test drive cars and the moment when you realise you can't fit in properly is priceless :D
I love your reviews. What would you prefer a M5 comp or a Taycan Turbo? The cars are in two different worlds, EV has instant torque and the ICE doesn't. But which do you prefer as a daily driver?
M5.
One Stunning car , I guess with panoramic roof you could always have extra tint , Nice video Joe
Hey Joe, thanks for the comprehensive video. Really enjoyed it.
Keep up the good work, and glad you decided to keep making videos like this.
Regarding the Taycan Brakes: It may have something to do with the Regen. Porsche says, you won't have all the regen (or something like that) the first 500 or so miles. Therefore the blended braking and range regeneration (the Porsche can do up to 270 kw, or 1.4G's) may not be at it's fullest, and that's what you could have experienced (if you're not just sensitive altogether). Additionally, most Taycan drivers range usually gets better the more they own it, drive it (unless they drive it like an absolute madman). The Porsche Range Manager's conservative as well. So, you will usually get more range than what it says.
The Glass is treated with 9 layers, and most owners says it doesn't give off heat, even on really hot days. So, that shouldn't be a problem. Of course your mileage may differ.
Good for you, for Checking out TaycanForum and Car Wow before this for insight and pespective!
I’m 6’6” and sat in one today. Had tons of space in the front seat but was disappointed the rear was worse than a Macan.
Great review Joe! Thank you for sticking with it in these difficult economic times. Greetings from the mad-house that is the USA.
That is the most amazing Taycan review!!! If Joe is working for Porsche the sales of this car will be 10x more👍
I love everything about your videos but this second camera you're using is terrible quality....
Bainton to Pocklington passing through warter. My favourite local road! I can appreciate how rough some of that section is. Porsche looks mega plush on there 😎
Another local here... agree it is a great road, apart from pheasants.
@@chrisglover2133 let me know if you fancy a ride out and a cuppa 👍
Look out for a red 997.1 with aerokit... live been Driffield and Pock. Brew sounds good.
@@chrisglover2133 Likewise, Red Evo 8MR 😎
Will keep an eye out for you!
Looking for your next video on the 2025 Taycan!!
Yet another great video Joe
OMG 😲 the cars so dirty! ,why didn't you clean it beforehand ?
GREAT review! I watched the ENTIRE thing; great work, very informative and engaging
Thank you 👌
Been looking forward to this one Joe. Tom has some nice cars. Lucky guy
From the front, it looks like the new Supra with autism. :D
You can charge a Porsche on a Tesla network suer charger....
Big ups from South Africa Joe! Love your vids man!
Aku! 🙆🏾♂️🙆🏾♂️
As always, Joe, an awesome video.Stunning car.
Like the sound. Reminds me of the Batmobile.
Nice review Joe. Good to meet you at
The Milton Keynes chargers and hope you didn’t have too long hanging around once you go on the ionity chargers, Andy (frozen blue Taycan turbo)
Hey Andy, yes mate likewise! Thanks for being so helpful and generous 🙏 Stunning spec Taycan too! All changed thankfully, paid £38 for 115 miles though 🤣👌
@@JoeAchilles1 ouch.. that’s why the porsche charging subscription is so good. That would have made it £16
I'll stick to my 2014 Carrera S, thank you.Until you can no longer get petrol, that is.
I think petrol will outlive us all..More people buy electric cars,means less cars at the pumps,equates to petrol hanging around for a long long time..Enjoy your Carrera S
@@Iamneverright Thank you Gary.
Porsche's claimed 0-62 is 4.0 seconds(not 3.8). 0-60 is claimed 3.8 seconds.
Well, their claims don't make sense.
Their cars give better results 😂
Dream porsche Taycan cross Turismo in crayon Dream car👌
Base spec doesn't come with a steering wheel - that was funny
EV is a reality and the Porsche is the best.
This 4 ‘s seems to be the sweet spot 👍
Is there a new Taycan review coming soon? I think I saw you getting in one?? :-)
Haha yes mate next week hopefully 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 WOO! look forward to it!
Excellent review, nicely detailed. Spot on with the brakes - spongy and don’t match the thrust. It’s massive outside and I’d recommend the surround view. Sport sound is annoying after 5 minutes. Boot disappointing. Leather seats are expensive. So is the performance battery but worth it. Otherwise, best car I’ve ever driven, hands down and neck snappingly quick. Turns heads everywhere I drove it. Mine’s on order!
Not a great look - starting your video shilling for your sponsor. Why not wait until we've heard some of what you actually have to say about the car - which, after all, is why I even clicked on your video in the first place.
I wish people who want to review cars, particularly EVs, would do their research. What about the 800v architecture which allows the Taycan to charge at 270 kW? 5% to 80% in 22.5 minutes? There are now 10 Ionity sites in the UK that support this charging speed with more being added all of the time. And the fastest Tesla is now called the Model S Performance, not the P100D. That name was dropped a year ago. The other thing is the brakes. All Taycans use regeneration of electricity from the motors when you press on the brake pedal, up to 265 kW, and only the friction brakes after that. Unless you push hard on the brake you are using regen only, so fitting the ceramics is only going to make any difference on the track.
Joe, great video, thanks for the effort you put into it. I have read that the brakes feel somewhat spongy due to the initial brake peddle travel is actually initiating the battery regeneration, and the brake peddle requires an additional firm push to actually begin engaging the brake calipers. The Taycan is capable of approximately up to 270 kWh of battery regeneration when operating the brake peddle, which would create significant speed reduction and in most normal braking instances the actual brake calipers would not even play a role at all.
Why are Porsche using cheap looking black plastic on the front, rear and side scoops? It reminds of the black plastic you get on cheap comercial vans.
I know the car is technically impressive, but I’m really surprised by the shockingly poor rear headroom and the total lack of knee room. And the tight dimensions getting in and out. I’ve seen this on quite a few new cars, I don’t really understand it. It’s like the 2 series grand coupe, the rear doors on that are shocking for room.
I am a pesant , I will have this pleb Tychan . I understand why your not a true believer of no buttons control panel's but it does make the controls easy to clean and wipe off. So the overall interior space probably could do with another foot of space just to make it that more comfortable. Like the unplanned brake test brilliant, nicely done, no shuffling or stuttering from speed too zero, and no road kill, brakes might be soggy but they work ! .
Here's a fact that may surprise you, this car uses enough electrical power to run 286 washing machines simultaneously, that's some amount of power!
Nice video Joe and a bloody great car! Any model level is fantastic (even peasant level) an awesome move my Porsche into a world market of electric vehicle, just share about the UKS lack of infrastructure to support it at present (I'm heading back soon to NZ! and will get mine there!) looks wise I think personally the Taycan looks better than the Panamera too! (win/win mate)
Thank you for this. I think that i am leaning more towards the Taycan instead of cross now. I think that my family is fine with the back given that nobody in my family is higher than 5’9 haha.
If I wanted electric cars Porsche’s are tempting me with this car.
I’m surprised they didn’t feed an exhaust note through the car instead of the HUM, mind u you’d probably drain it more if it sounded like a GT3
The car for wildlife.... That's a good reason to buy.
DUCKS LOVE TAYCANS.
Can’t wait for the electric 1,006bhp M5 🔥 just needs an aftermarket exhaust system available soon after
It’s not the base taycan.
Correct me if I’m wrong, because I am a lot, but the Taycan has a “Sport” option for the brakes. I guess this makes them more... sporty?
17:25 Please t-junk SC is outdated, why review such an amazing car and them make advertising for junk?
Very in depth video but if you thought about getting a Taycan the advice is so good Joe how could you fail to make a decision except go in a demo and experience it yourself, Well done as usual.
Great video Joe keep it up. Any plans to review the new A45s? Would be great to see what you think of it as a M2c owner.
Why does he keep calling it base Taycan when its a 4S and has the better battery. lol 4s is def not base.
When I filmed it the 4S was the base model.
@@JoeAchilles1 oh. Apologies I thought this was fairly new video. Nice review though. I'm dying to get my hands on a Taycan
Enjoy the video, great to see your demonstration of entry and exit as well as seating proportions. Does the options list include a sound module like seen on the Tesla?
Surely though if you weren't giving a great review you'd have some tunes on while your driving on your own?
So a cheeky “backfire” is out of the question if you have a passenger. Ok. Noted
30:00 On the breaks one has to appreciate the tech. The bite might never be as harsh on the regen as it is on physical disks. The very high regen on the break pedal blended in with the physical disk breaking is the cool tech.
This or an M5? 🤔
9:08 lol what a joke, this car is huge on the outside but tiny on the inside.
Saw one on the road yesterday for the first time and I must say it stood out from the crowd, looked absolutely beautiful 👌 that spec on this car in particular is spot on 👍.
Really enjoyed your presentation. The red interior looks really classy. Thanks.
Your charger power is in Kw, not KWh, like you were talking.
Delighted you're still in business Joe. Better luck with business soon.
Awesome car, howewer when all cars go ev I am done, its all about the engines for me,
Power and Energy are not the same thing!
Power, expressed in SI units of the "Watt" named after James Watt the 18th century Scottish engineer, is a measure of the rate at which work is done. More power means more work can be done in any given time period. In terms of cars, a basic "Watt" is a bit small, so we usually talk in units of 1,000 Watts, or KiloWatts, shortened to kW.
Energy is the quantitative and accumulating property transferred to an object in order to perform work on that object. Wxpressed in SI units of the "Joule", named after James Prescott Joule, aother ye-olde scientist. Energy is broadly the result of Power multipled by Time, so a Joule is equivalent to expending 1 Watt for 1 second. Again, for cars the Joule is a little small, so we tend to talk about KiloJoules (1,00 joules), MegaJoules (1 million joules) or even GigaJoules (1,000 million joules) .
To make things easy however, we more typically use a very simple unit, which is KiloWatt.Hours, that which is Power (in kW) multipled by the time it is applied for in hours.
This actually makes it extremely simple to move between Energy in KiloWatt.Hours(kWh) and Power in KiloWatts (kW).
For example, a 100 kWH battery (the total ENERGY stored in that battery) can supply, 100 kW for an Hour (because 100 x 1 = 100) Or is you wanted to charge that battery, using say a 50 kW charger, it would obviously take 2 hours (100 / 50 = 2). A charger rated at 7kW (the typical maximum for a single phase AC charger) would take 14.3 hours (=100/7) hours to fully charge this battery
So despite people seemingly getting very confused by this new (18th century lol!) terminology, there really isn't any excuse for getting it wrong. To me, as someone who'd been developing EV's for 20 years now, people using the wrong units sounds as wrong as someone saying "my engine makes a power of 300 gallons", or "i was driving at a speed of 100 miles per gallon on the motorway". :-)
You should give up trying to ride your mountain bike and start making vids on EV's lol
Amazing car thanks for the video, saw one for the first time the other day.
Where did you get that t-shirt? :D Great review, btw! 👍
Joe keep up your hard work. Will end with a job on top gear one day!!!!!!!!!!
Please can Tom share his spec for this particular car - it’s fantastic. Thanks