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The Fastest End-game Dragon Abyss Hard Team Guide (No LD5 / Deborah)
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2023
- Liam Shaina Julie Dragon Abyss Hard Team Showcase Guide Discussion
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quick tip, speed required are +120 for shaina for her going on tick 6, +90 for julie for going on tick 7, kayle/dhal + 63 for tick 8, konamiya cant be faster than +73 or liam will take a turn before dhalsim, liam should be around 52... all this considering +15% speed from tower
This comment should be pinned, i was about crying before reading this, love u
I’ve been trying to build this team and my Kyle isn’t getting the second set of turns but he has the proper spd and my tower is maxed. My Julie is only +74 but I don’t think that’s the problem. I also have +120 for Shaina, anyone know why it doesn’t work?
@@benknox1394 julie is the problem, it needs to be +87
@@RasgaMortalha_ my julie is +90 and I’m still got cut in between Kyle’s second turn. Really don’t know why (Kyle +80 Konamiya + 76)
Any replacement for Liam?
That moment when u finally make a tricaru and com2us comes out with abyss.
Happened to me as well lol
@@lefteye1019 me 2
its okay they made it even easier than before
Tricaru was out for a long time, about time to change teams coz its boring
I still Tricaru but with Kro, Raq and water Icaru 40.5 seconds each run. Each built rage fight so all the extra DMG is insane plus Verdehile is triple fight and 200 crit dmg with 100% crit rate so I'm doing insane DMG and every time Raq attacks it will have a chance to multi proc and with Kro giving the dragon Brand everything deals extra DMG and Icaru def breaks on the first attack then on its own turn everything attacks and there's also dots that will be planted so this does plenty of DMG to be able to kill the boss quickly and still able to survive 1 atk which is the slower of my runs but in the event where Kro moves first use skill 3 and then Icaru moves but doesn't have skill 2 it will def break then if Raq procs 4 times then it will kill the boss saving a good 8 seconds so I can get sub 30 seconds. If I used grinds then maybe I would be able to get the best time in the game because I'm running this team 30x30 timed intervals so it's only going to improve as time goes on I do R5 when that's not going on to try and get the grinds I need for that team to work better so far nothing spectacular but I was sub 1 minute vs what I have now so not too much more.
If shiana isn't high enough speed you also will have issues with your poison masters second turn. Mine was sitting plus 105 and didn't work, got it up to 123 and now it works perfectly. thanks so much for all the team info Sean!
finally someone with the correct answer
I second this!!
hi who can i replace when i dont have shaina
@@McCaguioa sadly for this this team she cannot be replaced as far as I know. Shaina has fast skill animation of AOE def break tho
I was so confused about this as well and got my Shaina to 123, can confirm that fixes the poison master’s second attack issue. Thanks so much!!
Thanks for making the build more clearer Sean. After maxing my Liam I think i can do this
Good luck!
thanks man, I built the team and its working well so far, I don't have as much damage as you do but it works. I cannot stress how important that shaina speed is, anything slower and the whole thing goes crazy
Pls share the runes
Julie scales better with atk + additional dmg on atk artis since her s3 does so many hits. Its easier to build on a fatal set, or on a set with more atk compared to cd for easier rune requirements
Mine is on fatal with 151 CD and works fine on wave 3 when Shaina durps I do hav 9 fight sets tho
@@funezgusty for this I started crying looking at that speed and cd and attack
btw, you can use a damage verde in that team too with a little more precise speedtuning, so dhalsim get's a second double turn before the dragon moves
How does that work 😮
What are the speeds?
Enlighten us bro
Shaina +129, Julie +90, Dhalsim +59, Konamiya +69, Liam +53, but it doesn't work after Dhalsim gets the buff, Liam goes first. If I make Liam +50, then the boss's sides attack first. :/
thank, Sean. I couldn't meet the damage requirement right now but my team is all good atm... averaging 45s and about 99% safe
6:00 that was a perfect stun and def break
I use this team but I have Julie go first and Shaina will always use S2. I have enough damage that Julie S3 into Shaina S2 clears the trash waves. Then Liam will always use S3 if you do enough damage before his turn. Granted it is VERY HARD to get that damage and I am short. The more damage we do initially the more likely he is to use s3. I think the perfect AI S3 is maybe 30% health left. To run my team I have Shaina on Rage Blade and Liam on Triple Fight because if he uses his s3 he does more than enough damage and Shaina needs the damage to fully clear the waves.
Shaina moving second is kinda hard for most people because you need a triple fight set that actually does good damage too 😂
Have you thought of Maybe trying to change shaina for something like Ken?, maybe that cr lead would help you add crit damage on runes and still be enough for the waves. And you'd have branding for the boss
@@ku0n-zo5uf but then you wouldn't have any defense break on the team... you need it for the boss
My rage blade shaina works just fine, don't need a triple fight. Mine only has 6 fight sets total in the team comp@@SeanBGames
@@SeanBGamesit's not a must but for every fight rune missing obviously the rune quality in each other monster should increase too to compnesate, specially for Julie to get the Shaina to that threshold and not get problems during trash waves.
Just got Liam and Alice on last day of summoning stone rotation so it’s nice I can try building the team
wait what?! You can get nat5 from scam stones?
I finally got a Liam, so I'm giving this team a try.
I've been using a dmg Verde instead of Liam, so my team move twice before the dragon, usually is enough to kill the dragon but my Shaina is blind so sometimes she misses def break (she has 88 acc)
Whats your speed tuning? 😮
Thanks for the video! I use Lyn instead of water bayek with fastest time 23.8s, but water bayek looks safer so I’ll give that a try!
Yo Sean I did the same team exact speeds exept julie who has +73 instead of 88. What happens is konamya gives turn to the poison master but Liam attacks first.
This is why I'm leveling my Poison Master and Weapon Master
Nice! I built this two weeks ago. Fastest so far is 24.853
Did you use dhalsim ? My fastest 27.9
@@dennis9584 Yeah
As a Deborah owner I always feel the discrimination😂. No videos out there on consistent Deborah farming teams
Right?! Even with 80 accuracy Veromos and good damage its not consistent. Looking for a better team..
Com2Us give this man a denorah so we get some deborah guides here😭
guys if you are wondering, yes arts make such a big difference, my kyle was way stronger then his and did no where near the same damage, His arts that are giving him bonus damage based on %hp of the boss are good. Just keep it in mind.
Thank you :D i love ur content u should have more views
Yo sean been using that team but instead of kona using omar/bayek and it's Avg 37-45 secs Omar Ai it's pretty awkward if the boss it's not on a certain hp same with Liam. Will try kona see what's up thank you for sharing the team
doesn't work after kyle attacks and eagle gives second turn to kyle liam attacks before kyle, my speed and shaina 213 julie 173 kyle 172 eagle 168 and liam 155
My liam cuts the dalsin after konamia raises his bar and i have no idea why, this is too anoying
Edit: just fixed it and holy shit it was because my shaina was +119 speed and now its 120 never imagined that 1 speed to be such a big deal
Oh bro, this comment saved my life, I had Shaina with +119 spd and Konamiya failed and I didn't understand why, I put Shaina +126 and Konamiya no longer fails her second skill, it doesn't make sense, but thanks
thanks for the guide 👍
trying to copy your team but can’t sync them even though i copy all the speed tune, the crystal in mini boss cutting my dhalsim and liam going first before dhalsim 😢
did you ended up fixing this? could you share?
@@Liquicityms yes liam +52spd, shaina +123spd, dhalsim +63spd, julie +87spd, kona +75spd..it's synchro now
I need to get this set up. Just got Liam, but god damn are my rage runes bad (slow, decent damage, nothing close to your Julie), and necro is so bad to run.
I already use this team..however if shaina dont land def break...my team screwed
I think she just needs 65 ACC and the speed requirement and it should be fine
Cakram change is galleon 🤔
I don't have Liam, but I do have Fire Ezio. His skills don't hit as hard as Liams 3rd, but you also don't have to worry about his ai as much. I may try this with him. I'm guessing it takes 2 turns from him to kill the dragon though.
For those who have the runes and no liam or desert warrior, you can run teon as a last unit and kyle will kill on his own (you will need a better set than seanb but it works, i did it myself)
What are the speeds for your birds and kyle?
Can someone explain why my poison master, bird boy and weapon master all have the same speed as seanb team but when bird boosts weapon master still cuts?
I don’t have any speed up artifacts on him…
I have the same speed as Kyle and Liam and my Kyle doesn’t go after Kona s2 how come ?
i got it, shaina sspeed, it somehow mess everything up if isnt above +120
@@estebanconvers9379 my shaina 130+ still not work
@@maftuhprint3804have u fixed it? If not, try Julie on 90+ spd
@@JackSCS-ss2gi thx, its work 👍
I build the team exactly like you, but shaina refuses to use her 2nd skill during the trash waves pretty often...
I have the same issue Shaina does skill 1 on trash waves and makes for a horrible average time compared to this
I don't understand why my kyle with more speed still gets cut by the cristals? Is it because my kona is too fast as well or something like that?
kyle needs a specific speed (something to do with frames)
@@AzuwiaaI see, thanks, I'll have to try and upgrade my julie to have the correct amount of speed as well since it's probably playing a role in this as well
Your julie shaina might be too slow, or the bird too slow
I just checked with different speed, my shaina is too slow (need one better rune) and my julie as well but I just need grinds. The rest is all good ! The explanations are way better than another video I watched showcasing the team@@SeanBGames
@@SeanBGames Julie needs to be +88 exactly in order for them not to cut??
damn i just built it yesterday cuz git liam from trans pieces and can confirm is wonderful
What are some Deborah teams I can make, I just got her lol, but no Liam, and my runes can’t seem to make the damage
hi Sean u could get more dmg if u put kyle and liam on 85% cr only. tryed it out or not the right runes for it?
kyle must be on 100cr. if shaina ai fails no aoe def break julie will go 2 cystals will be left if kyle missed crit those two liam will have a turn probably use his third and it wont be available at the boss stage.
I think if you have a decent julie and decent kyle with like 7 fights sets even with a miss crit kyle can kill a 30% ish hp big crystal@@mrwait2425
this is similar to the perfect ai gbah very cool
Would you mind trying this setup with Sigmarus having Liams runes? I'm curious if his 13% dmg buff would be enough.
Thanks in advance, if ever so happened.
sig can’t, belial may work tho
I don't have Liam for this 😢
Guys! i tried to do this team however im using DASHLANE instead. The problem is when Konamyia buff Dash, he doesnt play, Liam plays after. Anyone know why?
Thanks!
Did you solve the problem?
How does SeanB know I just started building this team yesterday?😮
I use light boomerang instead of Julie.
x4 chance def break on boss + More damage on boss (I can reach 25% HP but Liam still derf sometimes but less than 1%)
Best 32s avg.37s
This team never fail
Question tho, does konamiya automatically boost Kyle?
Hey that's my team !
dude speed tuning is perfect, just not enough damage on kyle or liam. Julie is fine also...
If you give Julie Street Dancer transmogs , it'll be a little faster
Hey Sean, you can build shaina with 40 acc in favour of more dmg since her passive gives her 25% bonus acc
My fight runes are absolutely garbo so im stuck with that build for now 😂
Great video
Follow exact your team comp. However for a weird reason my Shaina'AI seems to 80% derps AOE in the first way? Why?? :(
Now ,21 sec is thefastest time
I dont understand man, i built this exactly how u said and my liam cuts kyle's second atack when konamiya gives him attack bar buff
is your Shaina +120 spd?
125
And the kyle needs skillups right? Mines not going enough damage for liam 3rd skill
Sean!
I have 1problem with my team… all is done but in the end my liam just hitting 19-21k and the 3. Skill damage is not enough to kill the dragon… dont know why im hopeless :/ help me pls if someone can…
my liam moves after kona boosts dhalsim how can i fix this @SeanBGames
mee too
All to do with shania and Julie speed man
Kyle has an artifact with 20 accuracy 3:38
maybe listen to the explaination before commenting
I want to know if theres an update to this, I tried geralt. might be a decent change than omar?
what will happen if you use Sigmarus instead of Liam and Omar. Can you test it for us?
Ove got the runes for this team... but all my scam stone summons missed liam and thanks to my gb team farming everything else feels painfully long lol
My liam Keeps cutting Kyle after Konamia Uses s2 on Kyle. I tried various speeds on konamia but no luck.
my kayle doesent move after kona buff
Hi, my Liam had plus 53 speed, my kono had plus 82 speed, and my kyle have plus 75 speed, but my liam always will att first after kono skill 2 the kyle. What happen?
your Shaina is too slow. Make it +120
can we do this again with Water Geralt on all fight runes with the leader ??
I still Tricaru but with Kro, Raq and water Icaru 40.5 seconds each run. Each built rage fight so all the extra DMG is insane plus Verdehile is triple fight and 200 crit dmg with 100% crit rate so I'm doing insane DMG and every time Raq attacks it will have a chance to multi proc and with Kro giving the dragon Brand everything deals extra DMG and Icaru def breaks on the first attack then on its own turn everything attacks and there's also dots that will be planted so this does plenty of DMG to be able to kill the boss quickly and still able to survive 1 atk which is the slower of my runs but in the event where Kro moves first use skill 3 and then Icaru moves but doesn't have skill 2 it will def break then if Raq procs 4 times then it will kill the boss saving a good 8 seconds so I can get sub 30 seconds. If I used grinds then maybe I would be able to get the best time in the game because I'm running this team 30x30 timed intervals so it's only going to improve as time goes on I do R5 when that's not going on to try and get the grinds I need for that team to work better so far nothing spectacular but I was sub 1 minute vs what I have now so not too much more.
What does Shaina have on slot 2,4,6 ?
Does anyone know, if the water bayek or omar animations are faster?
Why does shaina so often use s1 instead of s2 for trash waves? Did i do Something wrong?
i have problem, i think my kyle is broken or somethiong wrong. after konamiya usew skill 2 to kyle, kyle is not moving. i copy all the spd in this video, and it still have the same problem.
Are your towers maxed? Is your Garuda awakened?
My Dhalsim +70 spd and Liam +51 spd, when Kona Resurge, my Liam always run earlier before Dhalsim. What's could be wrong on this?
Anyway, my Shaina run first with +94 spd.
I try again with +65 Dhalsim and Liam +51, still Liam run earlier after Resurge.
For some reason I got it to work with dhalism +85, liam +47 konimiya+95, the dhalism has to be super fast for some reason and I don’t think it can be any slower than +85, you can try it yourself but I got it to work with a lot of resources
Someone knows why my Liam (spd +53) cuts the Kyle (spd +79)?? Konamya buffs the att bar of kyle but the liam cuts anyway. thx
Dude same
You did not show liam artifacts.
Hi everyone. I made the team but it doesn't work, kyle has +67 spd, shaina +119 spd, konamiya +73 spd, juloe +87 spd, liam +53 spd. my kyle doesn't get second turn after konamiya uses ability on him but liam plays first. can you tell me what the problem is?
Both your shaina and julie need 2 spd more
@@SeanBGames thanks sean it works perfectly now
poease help,nsame problem. shaina +122,julie +82, dhalsim +80, kono +85 , liam +56.😢
tried 54 and 58 on liam but still cuts.
@@marcallenmojica8146 your julie need 8 more spd
am missing poison master 😭 idk what to do have everyone else
OHH i understand why mine dont work yet >O> my Shaina is not on fight >3>
Why does my shaina use S1 instead of s2?
My Kyle is +65 speed and gets passed by mid boss when konomiya boosts him. Did they increase the speed requirement?
Idk mine is like that too
Shaina and Julie have to be +122 spd and +88 spd for it to work for some reason
i wish i got liam
I just summoned Deborah recently... WHY!?
Can I use this same team with Deborah instead of Liam?
i never got all those runes :c
when i build this team , konamiya always using the 2nd skill for liam not for dalshim , whats wrong ?
is liam going before kona?
If Kyle not 100% crit,but 86crit.and about 1700dmg+. does it fail or not?
Kyle needs 100% cr
I'm assuming 100 CR on the poison master and 95 CR on the weapon master is overkill right? Just need 85?
kayle hits the cristals you want 100CR liam is ok with 85
Nvm got the team in the place where I needed it. TY SEANBBBBB
My Kona boost poison master atb but then liam moves even he's the slowest . Wtf?
I don't understand why my dalsim is being cut with +71SPD and with a Teon at +78
Is my Julie at +88 not enough??
Btw my shaina is +116 for now
thats the issue. shaina to slow. idk how to explain ticks properly but the shaina is what is causing the cut with teon and dalsim. trust me and get 4 more speed and you will be good.
The speed buff just affect base speed not rune speed
u need to add
more speed on shaina.more than 122 will do.
Why liam turn after konamiya give atk bar kyle?
so Kyle can atk twice
I don’t have Liam 😢
shaina fails to def break on final boss even with 97% acc once in awhile...q_q
i have been using this team for few months and it is running fine. but once a while the run will fail if shaina miss the def break during the boss stage. my shaina is 100% accuracy.
I think the boss maxes out at 65% acc and she gets 25% for free so you only really need 40% acc. Unfortunately Youre still gonna miss the occasional def break no matter what you do
@@amodace initially my shaina only have less around 75% accuracy. plus her passive will get 100% accuracy. since still miss def break therefore, i increase it till 100%. but still not helping. you are right, that shaina will still miss def break no matter what i do. do you encounter same issue at boss stage?
it's a mechanic of the game unfortunately. No matter how much accuracy you have there will be a 15% chance to resist. Beyond that every point of accuracy beyond the enemies resistance and the 15% base resistance counts. So you going 45% accuracy, 75% accuracy or 100% accuracy is the same in giants@@cheewuimoo3697
I got everything on Max, why my Kyle IS getting cut by de miniboss cristals being +4 points faster than his Kyle???
maybe your Julie and shaira are slower than the minimum required?
@@SeanBGames they are, but i dont know why that afemfect kyle
I dont know why but the boost of teon always cut by liam... 😅😅😅
in my case, its my shaina that causes that, must have at least 122 spd like in this video.
who would you swapp with if you have deborah?
liam
who is deborah.?
u mean all that for blue n flat runes...
is it ok if shaina is only 5* then?
I have the exact same spd stats, all tower max, but my liam move after konamiya give atb to giftmaster, so liam move before my giftmaster everytime, i dont understand why
That happens soo often to me in rta to than i push atb max and the enemy is moving, how is that possible
Shaina needs to be over the +120 spd to avoid this.
Atk bar boost gives 100% but atk bar can actually fill past 100. So sometimes the enemy monsters just has more atk bar still.
@@MegaKenny9 yes thats right but the liam is my monster, so how can it be that shaina turn the order from my monster? She dont boost atb
@@mantrixzzit has something to do with speed ticks idk how it works tho.
Whcih monster is Deborah
Built the team but it is failing once every 30 runs. Is this normal?
Could be runes, artefacts, skill up or bat prob. If not look if you have the team spd thunes perfectly and fast enough to play first or if it's not the prob too, might be the dps. Even if your team have exactly the same tcc dcc and atk than SeanB team well it wouldn't work as good if the monsters dont have artefacts as good. It could also be due to skill up ( dont know if your team is full SU ). Or it could be due to Julie getting hit at some point during the run before final wave making her lose s3 bonus that give extra card. If none of this is wrong then idk what it could be.
Hey so my kona and kyle are faster then yours but at the mid boss when kona boost kyle the ennemies take a turn, any idea why?
only thing that comes to my mind: whats your "speed tower" at? minimal impact has the placement itself for units with same combat speed so try Shaina julie kyle/kona (or swap their slot, maybe it does the trick for you since youir speed tuning is very close) and last liam
@@revengod1337 Well all my towers are maxed and even the slots are good
@@G3TR4CD found the solution, i upped the speed of kyle and konamiya a little bit , now it works 🫶
Is your shaina slower than Seans?
@@latergator9622 yeah, does that impact it?
Julie, Shaina, Liam, Kyle/Water Dhalsim and Sieq is faster than this team, albeit requires much better runes. My best run is 22 seconds with with a 25 second average. There's a bunch of 20-21 second records with this team on EU, so with even better runes than mine you can shave off a few extra seconds.