Thank you, Kit! I experiences inner dialogue quite frequently. Sometimes I forget that the way my brain works isn’t like everybody else’s. I just assumed that everybody else communicated with their inner dialogue is a back-and-forth kind of conversation.😅 what’s funny is I remember having a conversation with a friend where I was talking about having an argument with myself, and they were extremely confused. I just assumed everybody had arguments with their inner dialogue. Ha ha.
Yes kids it’s that time again… Time for speculation: Every culture has a blueprint that we are born into that we slowly absorb. Not really given much choice in the matter and go a little crazy if we think we can form our own. When we were living in tribal communities the person who started hearing voices was put into shamanic training. Western culture is a rational material culture that expects “clear uninterrupted thinking” at all times and any divergence from rational thought (because it get things done) can be seen malignant and subversive. Total identification with reason may be a form of Stockholm Syndrome. What is going on behind the scenes of a rational wall is worthy of investigation…Like that master detective Carl Yung…For thousands of years what was seen as crazy in one culture was seen as gifted… like the old saying states… while one person drowns in schizophrenia, the mystic swims…Takes humility and courage to face with curiosity what we just don’t know.🔥
I have Aphantasia, I don't have mental imagery, sounds, sensations or emotions. I find it wild that you can distinguish between external and internal hallucinations.
One thing I would also mention is. You can talk back to the voices with your own monologe but it is way more satisfyeng to speak out loud to the voices rather then thinking back to them.
@@SchizoKitzowhat if I have conversation with myself. I will use both personal pronouns such as I should go to this or I will use you should go do this. It switches up. But it just sounds like as though I’m reading in my head
Thank you for sharing this stuff. I have had internal auditory hallucinations in the past, and I couldn't find anything about it. 😢 Professionals even didn't listen or take it seriously....until months and months later when I had a full break from reality, and was unaware of just how untrue they were. It was worsened by certain meds, so thankfully those are better/gone now, but it was scary back then. :((
I’m showing this one to my psychiatrist. You just put into words what I couldn’t explain to him. I really cannot tell when it’s me talking or the voice in my head is.
this is really interesting! I've been experiencing psychosis for some months, and now I keep on "hearing" random sentences inside my head. Those random sentences are different from the intrusive thoughts that I get from my OCD. Idk how to describe it, but those random sentences are "louder" than "normal" intrusive thoughts. When I rest my head to sleep those random sentences flood my mind and make thinking full sentences almost impossible because it'll go like: let's say I want to think "damn, I'm really sleepy rn", but a random sentence comes and interrupts me; inside my head I'll hear 2 voices: mine and a completely different one that interrupts me; so I'll hear "damn, I'm really (YOU SHOULD SLEEP NOW)" What makes it worse is that when I'm delusional, I'll think some evil organisation has implanted a chip inside my brain and I can hear people through telepathy (sometimes the voices are from my parents or some close person)
My experience is similar. A fellow psych patient shared her (delusion?) that we are all chipped. I won't flat out rule it out. Anyways telepathy occurs randomly, and I can hear strangers talking to me telepathically. Now here is the thing I don't know if those conversations are really with 'my voices' or if I'm legit an awakening telepath. Does'nt happen if I'm medicated tough. Best experience with telepathy is my conversation with a Blackbird. It got extremely excited that I could hear and understand it - in return the bird read my mind. I never spoke a word out loud. As it turns out this is something that is known. It's called greenlanguage or language of the birds. Allegedly holy persons or just persons more tuned in to nature do experience this. It's not an occurence reserved just for 'sick' persons.
I’ve been having the same issue man for the better part of a year hiding it from family and friends is fun I’ve been having recurring nightmares and thoughts that are pretty scary and just out right crazy but I’m still trying to get answers as my symptoms get worse I’m sure it’s brought on by stress and my OCD also seeking help is also hard to do when my ODD stops me from seeking or listening to help but it’s quit interesting losing your mind too an outside force like this I argue daily with the voices over my anxiety’s and shortcoming too family too dead people too delusions of myself and others perspective of me and my actions during these Spells where I have the lost of attention in the mind of conversion due too the thoughts and how hard it is to overcome this thinking and confusion I’m in my early 20s and In therapy and seeing a psychiatrist for these issues but have yet to receive a diagnosis like my others but yeah go team psychotic😂
My internal monologue hardly ever stops. I don't have the control to make it stop. It is annoying quite often at night time and makes it hard to fall asleep
I've never been able to turn the voices off ever. Not through meditation or anything. It is relentless, even in my dreams my internal monologue is rampant. It's so very tiring. When I get super fatigued the visual monologue starts and I can literally read the words I'm thinking subtitled across my vision. Good times. I always feel so bombarded that I never feel lonely though, so I guess that's a positive
Had my first espisode at 33, my entire life was destroyed in just 2 months because of this. It's sad how powerful and cruel the mind can be. Stay healthy folks...
5:45 😳can someone have like that symptom for example after a breakup early in life like age 17 and then develop schiz type illness years later? Or it could be anyone right? I’m assuming they’re more prone
A hige issue with mine was it felt I was arguing with this voice that sounded like me but I had no control over it and it really pissed me off and knew how to activate my OCD thoughts and it was complicated... Hearing this explained here too is so refreshing, thank you!!! ❤❤
The way you talked about and approached/explained this was very refreshing. It feels so nice to see other people talking about things so openly regarding mental health. Thanks!
Good ending/tag line. making the uncomfortable comfortable. Because gosh so many of the words you use, I have heard only as insults. Thank you for explaining them. Also Madame Bee has a nice hat.
I’ve always admittedly found this topic fascinating because a close relative of mine had schizophrenia when they were alive, and I also struggle with mental health issues. Admittedly not of the psychosis variety, but it’s still been something I’ve been trying to understand more just in case. I have ADHD, OCD, and a particularly dynamic internal world on my better days, and honestly, the intrusive thoughts are probably the most confusing at times. I learned a lot about what OCD is as I got diagnosed, so often I now experience intrusive thoughts as a semi-foreign entity that gets inserted into my brain while covered in far too much superglue. The thoughts are mine but also not and I’ve never quite understood how my brain has decided to label the two. It’s always fascinating to examine the similarities between hallucinations and intrusive thoughts because they’re very blurry in some ways and distinct in others that just. Never ceases to make me want to understand it better. Thank you for sharing your experiences!
I’ve just stumbled across this, and its interesting. I talk to myself in my head all the time, like back and forth conversations, and I’ve never thought of it as being anything other than just a hyperactive internal monologue. My internal monologue is always active, whether its just narration or talking to myself. I’ve never actually tried to “turn it off” before, so that’s something i should probably try and do to figure this out? But this was very interesting. I had no idea auditory hallucinations could present as internal, I’ve always thought of them as the external kind, so that was extremely interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience
thanks for this video, very informative, this has converted me from someone who watches videos about psychosis out of pure curiosity and wanting to learn, to someone who is now very afraid that I may have experienced auditory hallucinations when i thought i was just thinking!! -help-
Aw, there’s no reason to worry! Firstly because auditory hallucinations can happen in healthy people (people who don’t have psychosis). Secondly because there’s no point in worrying. Just talk to a psychologist or psychiatrist to see what they think. If that’s your only symptom you’re most likely fine!
So glad I found your channel I also have schizoaffective bipolar type and you are helping me find out so much about what is going on in my life thanks for what you do keep it up!
While i never had diagnosed psychosis, i do find this very educational. I just started working with a trauma therapist to see why i cant remember... but i liked how you describe this and will keep this in mind IF it pops up.
Is it possible that the voice that you hear is situated in a particular place in your head which is different from where your inner voice comes? Like hakkucination is at the back of the head and inner vouce is in the front.
Thanks, that helped.My inner voices changes it's timbre sometimes, the sound might be distorted or something. That made me worry a lot. But I can controll it when it is like that. I kinda needed to hear that reassurance.
As someone who has an extremely active internal monologue, I really enjoyed watching this video! I love how clear your explanations of what an internal monologue, internal auditory hallucinations, and external auditory hallucinations are. And the differences you laid out between internal monologue vs. auditory hallucinations were super helpful. I think #1 was the most interesting difference to me, b/c at first I was like "HOLD ON, my internal monologue has never sounded like my speaking voice at all, WTF." And then I realized, of course it doesn't, b/c I'm trans. And I should have seen that as a sign of being trans wayyyyy earlier on, whoops XD I wonder if my speaking voice will ever sound more like the way I talk inside my head one day. But either way, I can tell it's an internal monologue (vs. a hallucination) because even though it doesn't sound like me, it still very much feels like me. So yeah, this one was fascinating to think about! #2 is the strongest difference/clearest indicator for me out of all the ones you mentioned that what I have going on is an internal monologue. Sometimes the voice in my head is speaking, sometimes it's singing, sometimes it's even just playing music like a DJ would... but no matter what it's doing, I know it's me running the show. And that's also how I can tell that I don't tick the box for hallucinations on #3. Even though I frequently have conversations in my head, it's the same way I create conversations between characters when I'm writing. I know what each line of the conversation is going to be (as opposed to having a conversation with another person, where I can't predict how they're going to respond). My internal monologue actually spends a good chunk of time speaking in character voices to help me come up with dialogue for fanfiction LOL I'm also glad you mentioned that you can't always tell what's your internal monologue and what's a hallucination, even with these differences in mind. That must make life really challenging. Thank you so much for making this video & sharing all of this helpful information!
Oh this is such a great comment to unpack!!!!! First off, I love that your inner voice is different because youre trans! I had no idea that was a thing, but it actually makes a lot of sense. I hope that your voices will match one day! I also think its really cool that you have singing in an internal monologue and even music as one. Having songs stuck in your head is also a huge thing for people with internal monologues, so singing and whatnot makes perfect sense! And I know you’re big on music (thats putting it mildly) so that lines up with how I see you as a person! ANd having character conversations is actually something I’ve done too! SO i totally get that one! And even just typing this comment out makes me want to write again… maybe one day! Awesome comment GC, thanks for this!
Holy shit, okay I didn’t know you could quiet an internal mono vs not being able to quiet voices. I have thoughts that have kind of cloned my consciousness and I can’t stop them. Jesus okay good to know for my psych tomorrow
I’ve been trying to figure out how to describe things to my psychiatrist, and you validate and explain things so perfectly. I just wanted to leave a commented saying thank you and I appreciate you making this video and I’m glad I came across it. I’m going to reference it to my psychiatrist! Thank you so so much for sharing!! 💛
Good video, although I think you need to explain the volume difference when having internal auditory hallucination vs inner monologue. I don’t have schizophrenia but I’ve watched other videos of schizophrenics that mention that when they have internal hallucinations inside their head they still hear a sound. The difference with an inner monologue/dialogue is that you hear your voice silently meaning you don’t actually hear a sound. Towards the end your video it came across a bit contradicting as you said internal hallucinations can sound the same as your inner dialogue which kinda overrides what you said in the beginning of your video. And also the definition of an hallucination is to be perceived as real otherwise it’s not an hallucination. Good video though! Thanks
I'm so pleased I found your channel. I just enjoy listening to you talking about things that have been thinking about my whole life. I hope you can keep articulating in the wonderful way you do and stay on top of your symptoms. Thanks Kit
I heard my dead dog whine, I heard a car horn when my brother was here talking to my sister, neither one of them heard the horn. Occasionally I hear someone call my name, I hear car doors a lot, and no one in the driveway, I live out in the country. I hear a lot of things around the house that I can't explain what they are.
I can totally relate and I sometimes get mixed up with my inner monologie and the voices in my head. They really can be crafty but when I change the voice of my inner monologue it's like they know the difference and rip into me for it. I've done a couple years on and off of antipsychotics and rn my doc and I are weening me down from them to see how I handle it. Thanks for your great explanation of the differences. I appreciate that
Be mindful that the reason they rip into you is because of your conscious awareness of what you did. Don't wrestle with the condition just be confident. In other words ignore them. You see those voices is just your consciousness you see the way you can alter the sound of the voice in which your thoughts work, those voices basically do this also because it's still you. It's really the power of the mind. I had to learn the hard way.
I have a very high inner monologue and imagination. It’s so high and well I questioned myself into high anxiety sometimes. My thoughts get so loud. Music espcislly
Wow I'm schizoaffective too.. not too many of us on the net from what I've seen... I was actually brought here because I told a voice outside my head that they aren't real and they said people that hear voices hear their own voice and I said they hear foriegn voices to their own voice. My hallucination is that I hear the voices of friends and people I grew up around and we're all secretly psychic and they can see what I'm doing even when I'm in my room all alone.
I honestly don’t really feel comfortable discussing my diagnosis is but I will say that when I was going through psychosis, I had no idea that my internal monologue was not normal. I thought everybody else around me was the crazy ones because I didn’t realize that internal monologue is some thing that you should be able to control. I’m on medication now for my issues, and it basically woke me up because I had no idea how unreachable I was in that state. Again, I don’t really like talking about diagnosis and stuff like that. My doctors know that I get very frustrated, but it is absolutely astounding how you can go through psychosis, and think those thoughts and I was just on aware completely of how much they were destructive to me. Let’s just say I’m very thankful for my medication but it does suck because I still have this very fixed idea that this can’t be happening to me.
Thank you for sharing a little bit of your story here! I know how hard it can be to spit out words sometimes. And it’s wild what psychosis makes us believe is normal. It’s sneaky like that and I hate it. Again, thank you for sharing, and best of luck in your mental health journey!
The external ones can be caused from lack of sleep a classmate during my college years said near the end of the first semester that he thought he heard a moan while passing by one of the buildings on campus. he had been staying up late to deal with conference month. That what we called finals where I went to college.
I have the internal monologue, the narrator, voices, and I can think about other things while thinking about what I am saying and doing. I am medicated due to my generalized anxiety and they, not long ago they changed my meds and now its quitter, and its weird to miss something that I know it was myself.
A few questions for Kit and/or anyone in the same boat (with my guessed answers): - Do you feel like the author of your internal monologue (yes)? - Do you feel like the author of your internal hallucinations (no)? - Can you switch off your internal monologue, simply by choosing to do so (yes)? - Can you switch off your internal hallucinations, simply by choosing to do so (no)? - Can you switch off your internal monologue at all (yes, like above)? - Can you switch off your internal hallucinations at all (only by sleeping, if they let you)? - Do the internal voice hallucinations have the same tone, timbre, volume and other audio qualities as your own (inner) voice (no)?
ok, so I have 2 voices in my head, but I have named them.."logical". *Jamie*, the good one." And then there is the hag", *Le Ann*, she's the negative one. They sound just like me. The other night one of them called me a crotch. and laughed about it! she sounds like me. Then the other one was telling Le Ann to knock it off. But I think my thing is inner monolog because I can carry full on sentences with them, and both participate in conversation with me. I have always thought they were my "voices" that I hear. this started about 1-2 years after diagnosis. I really don't know what to think about it all. I'm confused, I guess. It would be comforting to know it's not the "bad" kind of hearing voices. But the good kind. Anyway, thank you for sharing your videos, it's very awesome you show is the raw version of your disorder.
Mine is weird I have constant long monologue and when I talk it's just the monologue speaking out loud. It's like my monologue is joining my speech as one constantly. I'm able to sort of weigh pros and cons before speaking with it then blurt out what I want to say. I believe the terms "Thinking to myself" or "Thinking out loud" have come from this.
I should really go to a psychiatrist everytime i go i always cancel the next appointment. Ive had voices in my head that suggest violent actions against others and most often myself. Idk why but ive also missed or dont remember stuff that happens in my life a lot. I just recently found out my grandpa died 3 years ago but i swear i never knew. My brother asked if i wanted to go to the funeral he said i told him i was busy. It doesnt feel real that he's gone and especially that i wouldnt remember i loved him so much. Either way i think ill try to go again, Thank you.
Well I have been fortunate with this! I have a very extensive inner monologue that I use to bring my creativity to life onto the page as poetry! I have had only one disturbing voice that wasn’t my own come from the back of my mind! It was random and I have never had another!
Thank you, this was very helpful! I do have a question, what would it mean if you only hear voices inside of your head when you think about it or if you’re worried?
Plenty of people on reddit have ocd and inner voice narrating thoughts. Alot of us have intrusive thoughts in inner voice or random mind pops ( like random word pops in your head). So what is the difference between this and internal hallucinations? Is this that you can clearly talk to your internal hallucinations like they are humans or?
Ohh interesting. I basically talk to myself but have full conversations. Yet in full control of the conversation from both aspects. I use that to test conversations I want to have by running test scripts. I did this as a means to control stuttering.
This might sound a little bizarre but I have always had an internal monologue, it has benefitted me as it allows me to think rationally without having to think aloud. But recently I became more aware of my internal monologue; like nothing unusual, the same ol' but it has made me anxious like "what if I start hallucinating or lose my mind completely?"
I have an internal monologue that is very chatty so I'm basically talking to myself in my head all the time. But when I first got sick as a teen there was a voice in my head I couldn't control. She sounded like me a lot but not exactly. So I thought that I was supposed to be a twin and that I absorbed her in the womb and her mind stayed alive inside my head. I don't believe that anymore, but I still hear it from time to time on meds if I'm under high stress, but I can't talk to her. She will say one sentence and then cut out. I guess that's thanks to the meds.
Thanks ❤🙏... I would propose that all voices, are coming from "the same" operating system, which has countless intentions... The "me" voice", is apart from other voices, because the intention which produces the voice, although start, like all other intentions, below the threshold of "the screen of awareness", is amplified to the point of appearing there... All actions... whether mental, vocal , or physical, once the intention to produce them, appear on this screen of awareness, automatically are accepted as belonging to this "me"... In fact, that would be the definition of "me'.... intention that has reached the screen... Many other actions, are done without the intention appearing on t screen...but because the pass as "normal" (like driving away a mosquito...ir even walking ...)... They are not noticed as not being "me'' created... If such action would be very un typical, then an alarm may be sound inside...
Dividing these different (always ad hoc) voices, into belonging to a certain personality claster, is a game of the conscious mind...i think...not sure... All intentions come from certain "filters" (perception programs), which process inputs...so... Different filters will produce respective intentions... As mentioned, all "voices", whether loud, or silent, are nothing but outcome of intentions...
The "ability" to "play" with more voices, apart from the official "me" voice...that is , with voices, who's generating intention is below the threshold, ...this ability emerge, when a door between conscious, and sub conscious, is opened...(sometimes temporary... sometimes permanently)... It's important to remember that all voices are the same operating system...of which, "me" voice, is nothing but the official spokesman... because if the intention of "me" , is known, before vocal execution, it can be stopped, or manipulated...so it's a more safe voice, for interaction... But playing with other voices...can be very de stabilizing... because no feeling of control... But remember...there is no "other" inside... Only one powerful operating system....
Once this door, between conscious and sub conscious, is open , then sub conscious (sub screen) intentions, get access to the "machinery of body and speech, and can preform actions, (mental , physical, and vocal)... without conscious intention, which are, because of that, experienced as not "my" actions...
I believe the main danger from this "game", is from fear, of this phenomenon...fear of loosing control...fear of foreign invaders... So the most important thing is to relax and accept the present condition... If fear is gone, it is not dangerous... Then only what is left is patient observing, to understand, what these invented personality clasters, are coming to serve...what needs... And are they really nessasary these days... If not, they may stop, on their own... But often attachment is developed to this painful game...so one needs to be very patient in descerning , rather than fight and try to stop by force... It's much wiser, to stop slowly, through understanding...
Remember...the only one who is afraid, is the imaginary "me"... Who needs to be in control... Feel your self with love, and control will less needed... For love to pervade, fear needs to go...
wait i can talk to to diffrent peopel in my head, but i cant control the voices sometimes but also i can, but i can even use talk in difrent peopels voices in my head and picture them saying it, but i have never reaaly paide much atention to my thoughts but i know thay are there
I just hear a women whisper to me and a man. I never know what they’re saying but it’s scary… it just started happening .. they sound far away or right up close but they always whisper and it sounds like it’s on a radio. Sometimes a echo. I also hear people walking and clicking.. bro what’s happening????!! I’m only 15.
I can "audiate" but Ive Never had internal mologue with a voice out of the blue. I did howeved had Musical auditory hallucinations. I had a rough childhood
I am very confused about the internal chit chat. I have been dealing with mental health problems and lots of therapy since 2019. I have know for 30 plus years I have Depression. It’s evolved into C-ptsd,MDD, GAD, ADHD,, And now fast forward 2019- present my labels have evolved but are still in the diagnostics process. Now BPD, Bipolar and now maybe Schizoaffective disorder. My shitty committee in my mind is very loud about SI. So I just wonder if it’s a “voice” Dbt definitely has been a help❤ Thanks for the videos ❤
i feel like my internal voice sounds like mine but like, if i didnt sleep for 10 years and smoked a pack a day, I scream back at mine and it makes them less loud
My internal monologue is unusually aggressive? E.g. I'm doing a little task at work and I hear an imaginary customer demand I stop mucking about and serve them, or complain about the mess I'm making 😅 but all my auditory *hallucinations* are noises, and not voices
I'm super confused still on what I'm doing ..but it mad since and clarified the internal monologue which of course I thought had to be normal ...But always questioned if I'm talking to myself or afraid I'll get caught because sometimes I do it out loud, and I'll answer myself back simple example: (in my head)Damn that cheesecake looks good ...hell yea but you know damn well it will mess your stomach up ...fuck it go ahead and get it .. ????normal right (in my head just not i said" hell yea")
When I realized I have autism I also realized that I was suppressing a lot of myself to make others comfortable. I felt very disconnected from who I am and it was a very sad and uneasy feeling. I still feel a bit like that, but it's been a while and I'm feeling better. I hope that you're feeling more connected with yourself now that it's been a while since you left this comment.
Ummm...I always have inner dialogues with imaginary friends that have unique identities of their own, of which I could choose to engage with or not. This I guess is neither hearing voices nor internal monologue.
Weird that in native traditions hearing voices is regarded as scared and as guide from the great spirit, the great mystery. But in western and settler cultures is related to mental illnesses and sickness. A wise man called Carlos Castaneda ones wrote books on how to stop the internal dialogue.
Thank you, Kit! I experiences inner dialogue quite frequently. Sometimes I forget that the way my brain works isn’t like everybody else’s. I just assumed that everybody else communicated with their inner dialogue is a back-and-forth kind of conversation.😅 what’s funny is I remember having a conversation with a friend where I was talking about having an argument with myself, and they were extremely confused. I just assumed everybody had arguments with their inner dialogue. Ha ha.
You have to realize that the chit chat was installed inside your internal dialogue by outside forces. It is not of your own being.
I guess inside civilizations like these we all fall prey to it.
@@GOne-vj6no how does that work honestly?
Yes kids it’s that time again… Time for speculation: Every culture has a blueprint that we are born into that we slowly absorb. Not really given much choice in the matter and go a little crazy if we think we can form our own. When we were living in tribal communities the person who started hearing voices was put into shamanic training. Western culture is a rational material culture that expects “clear uninterrupted thinking” at all times and any divergence from rational thought (because it get things done) can be seen malignant and subversive.
Total identification with reason may be a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
What is going on behind the scenes of a rational wall is worthy of investigation…Like that master detective Carl Yung…For thousands of years what was seen as crazy in one culture was seen as gifted… like the old saying states… while one person drowns in schizophrenia, the mystic swims…Takes humility and courage to face with curiosity what we just don’t know.🔥
@@GOne-vj6no what forces? what do you mean
I have Aphantasia, I don't have mental imagery, sounds, sensations or emotions. I find it wild that you can distinguish between external and internal hallucinations.
One thing I would also mention is. You can talk back to the voices with your own monologe but it is way more satisfyeng to speak out loud to the voices rather then thinking back to them.
Yes true!
But sadly talking to the voices freaks out normal people so I have to wear headphones or just think back to them if needed. @@SchizoKitzo
@@SchizoKitzowhat if I have conversation with myself. I will use both personal pronouns such as I should go to this or I will use you should go do this. It switches up. But it just sounds like as though I’m reading in my head
I can concur with this.
3:10 I can have an Internal monologue with other voice but I don't think that It's real so it doesn't seem psychotic to me.
4:26 My inner monologue sometimes is hard or impossible to shut up but I know that it's not real, it's just that I'm worrying about something.
I have full conversations with my voices in my head. When I have my internal monologue the voices will ask what I’m talking about
You can speak out loud if everyone is civil or write a journal to get everyone on the same page.
Thank you for sharing this stuff.
I have had internal auditory hallucinations in the past, and I couldn't find anything about it. 😢
Professionals even didn't listen or take it seriously....until months and months later when I had a full break from reality, and was unaware of just how untrue they were.
It was worsened by certain meds, so thankfully those are better/gone now, but it was scary back then. :((
I’m showing this one to my psychiatrist. You just put into words what I couldn’t explain to him. I really cannot tell when it’s me talking or the voice in my head is.
Glad to help!!! This is why I make these videos ^_^
Same, I didn't realize that everyone doesn't have internal monologue
this is really interesting! I've been experiencing psychosis for some months, and now I keep on "hearing" random sentences inside my head. Those random sentences are different from the intrusive thoughts that I get from my OCD. Idk how to describe it, but those random sentences are "louder" than "normal" intrusive thoughts. When I rest my head to sleep those random sentences flood my mind and make thinking full sentences almost impossible because it'll go like: let's say I want to think "damn, I'm really sleepy rn", but a random sentence comes and interrupts me; inside my head I'll hear 2 voices: mine and a completely different one that interrupts me; so I'll hear "damn, I'm really (YOU SHOULD SLEEP NOW)"
What makes it worse is that when I'm delusional, I'll think some evil organisation has implanted a chip inside my brain and I can hear people through telepathy (sometimes the voices are from my parents or some close person)
Your experience sounds similar to mine. Have you told your psychiatrist about all that?
@@gigahorse1475 not yet, but I have an appointment with her at the end of this month
My experience is similar. A fellow psych patient shared her (delusion?) that we are all chipped. I won't flat out rule it out. Anyways telepathy occurs randomly, and I can hear strangers talking to me telepathically. Now here is the thing I don't know if those conversations are really with 'my voices' or if I'm legit an awakening telepath. Does'nt happen if I'm medicated tough.
Best experience with telepathy is my conversation with a Blackbird. It got extremely excited that I could hear and understand it - in return the bird read my mind. I never spoke a word out loud. As it turns out this is something that is known. It's called greenlanguage or language of the birds. Allegedly holy persons or just persons more tuned in to nature do experience this. It's not an occurence reserved just for 'sick' persons.
It seems likes you might have D.I.D
I’ve been having the same issue man for the better part of a year hiding it from family and friends is fun I’ve been having recurring nightmares and thoughts that are pretty scary and just out right crazy but I’m still trying to get answers as my symptoms get worse I’m sure it’s brought on by stress and my OCD also seeking help is also hard to do when my ODD stops me from seeking or listening to help but it’s quit interesting losing your mind too an outside force like this I argue daily with the voices over my anxiety’s and shortcoming too family too dead people too delusions of myself and others perspective of me and my actions during these Spells where I have the lost of attention in the mind of conversion due too the thoughts and how hard it is to overcome this thinking and confusion I’m in my early 20s and In therapy and seeing a psychiatrist for these issues but have yet to receive a diagnosis like my others but yeah go team psychotic😂
My internal monologue hardly ever stops. I don't have the control to make it stop. It is annoying quite often at night time and makes it hard to fall asleep
I've never been able to turn the voices off ever. Not through meditation or anything. It is relentless, even in my dreams my internal monologue is rampant. It's so very tiring. When I get super fatigued the visual monologue starts and I can literally read the words I'm thinking subtitled across my vision. Good times. I always feel so bombarded that I never feel lonely though, so I guess that's a positive
Samee
Had my first espisode at 33, my entire life was destroyed in just 2 months because of this. It's sad how powerful and cruel the mind can be. Stay healthy folks...
It destroyed my life so easily, and took years to recover. Minds can be absolutely brutal to us. Hang in there!
5:45 😳can someone have like that symptom for example after a breakup early in life like age 17 and then develop schiz type illness years later? Or it could be anyone right? I’m assuming they’re more prone
A hige issue with mine was it felt I was arguing with this voice that sounded like me but I had no control over it and it really pissed me off and knew how to activate my OCD thoughts and it was complicated... Hearing this explained here too is so refreshing, thank you!!! ❤❤
I hear voices constantly now. They won't leave me alone
The way you talked about and approached/explained this was very refreshing. It feels so nice to see other people talking about things so openly regarding mental health. Thanks!
Good ending/tag line. making the uncomfortable comfortable. Because gosh so many of the words you use, I have heard only as insults. Thank you for explaining them. Also Madame Bee has a nice hat.
Thanks so much!!! She loves hats when she can find some she likes!
I’ve always admittedly found this topic fascinating because a close relative of mine had schizophrenia when they were alive, and I also struggle with mental health issues. Admittedly not of the psychosis variety, but it’s still been something I’ve been trying to understand more just in case. I have ADHD, OCD, and a particularly dynamic internal world on my better days, and honestly, the intrusive thoughts are probably the most confusing at times. I learned a lot about what OCD is as I got diagnosed, so often I now experience intrusive thoughts as a semi-foreign entity that gets inserted into my brain while covered in far too much superglue. The thoughts are mine but also not and I’ve never quite understood how my brain has decided to label the two. It’s always fascinating to examine the similarities between hallucinations and intrusive thoughts because they’re very blurry in some ways and distinct in others that just. Never ceases to make me want to understand it better. Thank you for sharing your experiences!
I’ve just stumbled across this, and its interesting. I talk to myself in my head all the time, like back and forth conversations, and I’ve never thought of it as being anything other than just a hyperactive internal monologue. My internal monologue is always active, whether its just narration or talking to myself. I’ve never actually tried to “turn it off” before, so that’s something i should probably try and do to figure this out? But this was very interesting. I had no idea auditory hallucinations could present as internal, I’ve always thought of them as the external kind, so that was extremely interesting. Thank you for sharing your experience
you don't have auditory hallucinations
Such a clear and concise explanation of the condition. Best i've seen so far. thank you.
This is really intense, Kit. There's a lot here I recognize but have never heard laid out. Thank you.💐
No problem, Roy!
Haved you ever done psychedelics
Thank you for the video, it's like every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new. May only the good voices accompany you :)
Awww thank you and I’m so glad to help you learn!!
thanks for this video, very informative, this has converted me from someone who watches videos about psychosis out of pure curiosity and wanting to learn, to someone who is now very afraid that I may have experienced auditory hallucinations when i thought i was just thinking!! -help-
Aw, there’s no reason to worry! Firstly because auditory hallucinations can happen in healthy people (people who don’t have psychosis). Secondly because there’s no point in worrying. Just talk to a psychologist or psychiatrist to see what they think. If that’s your only symptom you’re most likely fine!
So glad I found your channel I also have schizoaffective bipolar type and you are helping me find out so much about what is going on in my life thanks for what you do keep it up!
I’ll do my best! Thanks for the comment!
While i never had diagnosed psychosis, i do find this very educational. I just started working with a trauma therapist to see why i cant remember... but i liked how you describe this and will keep this in mind IF it pops up.
Thanks Kit this is very interesting. I'm glad you have ways to tell the difference between the two most of the time.
Yes! Thanks so much!
I've wondered about this for years. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks
Thanks so much!
Is it possible that the voice that you hear is situated in a particular place in your head which is different from where your inner voice comes? Like hakkucination is at the back of the head and inner vouce is in the front.
Inner voice is everywhere, voices are back right!
Thanks, that helped.My inner voices changes it's timbre sometimes, the sound might be distorted or something. That made me worry a lot. But I can controll it when it is like that. I kinda needed to hear that reassurance.
Very very interesting video! Thanks Kit!
As someone who has an extremely active internal monologue, I really enjoyed watching this video! I love how clear your explanations of what an internal monologue, internal auditory hallucinations, and external auditory hallucinations are. And the differences you laid out between internal monologue vs. auditory hallucinations were super helpful.
I think #1 was the most interesting difference to me, b/c at first I was like "HOLD ON, my internal monologue has never sounded like my speaking voice at all, WTF." And then I realized, of course it doesn't, b/c I'm trans. And I should have seen that as a sign of being trans wayyyyy earlier on, whoops XD I wonder if my speaking voice will ever sound more like the way I talk inside my head one day. But either way, I can tell it's an internal monologue (vs. a hallucination) because even though it doesn't sound like me, it still very much feels like me. So yeah, this one was fascinating to think about!
#2 is the strongest difference/clearest indicator for me out of all the ones you mentioned that what I have going on is an internal monologue. Sometimes the voice in my head is speaking, sometimes it's singing, sometimes it's even just playing music like a DJ would... but no matter what it's doing, I know it's me running the show.
And that's also how I can tell that I don't tick the box for hallucinations on #3. Even though I frequently have conversations in my head, it's the same way I create conversations between characters when I'm writing. I know what each line of the conversation is going to be (as opposed to having a conversation with another person, where I can't predict how they're going to respond). My internal monologue actually spends a good chunk of time speaking in character voices to help me come up with dialogue for fanfiction LOL
I'm also glad you mentioned that you can't always tell what's your internal monologue and what's a hallucination, even with these differences in mind. That must make life really challenging. Thank you so much for making this video & sharing all of this helpful information!
Oh this is such a great comment to unpack!!!!! First off, I love that your inner voice is different because youre trans! I had no idea that was a thing, but it actually makes a lot of sense. I hope that your voices will match one day!
I also think its really cool that you have singing in an internal monologue and even music as one. Having songs stuck in your head is also a huge thing for people with internal monologues, so singing and whatnot makes perfect sense! And I know you’re big on music (thats putting it mildly) so that lines up with how I see you as a person!
ANd having character conversations is actually something I’ve done too! SO i totally get that one! And even just typing this comment out makes me want to write again… maybe one day!
Awesome comment GC, thanks for this!
Thank you for sharing your experience, you are helping so many people.
Holy shit, okay I didn’t know you could quiet an internal mono vs not being able to quiet voices. I have thoughts that have kind of cloned my consciousness and I can’t stop them. Jesus okay good to know for my psych tomorrow
I’ve been trying to figure out how to describe things to my psychiatrist, and you validate and explain things so perfectly. I just wanted to leave a commented saying thank you and I appreciate you making this video and I’m glad I came across it. I’m going to reference it to my psychiatrist! Thank you so so much for sharing!! 💛
Glad to be able to help!!!
This one answered a ton of questions I had. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Glad to help clear things up!
Good video, although I think you need to explain the volume difference when having internal auditory hallucination vs inner monologue. I don’t have schizophrenia but I’ve watched other videos of schizophrenics that mention that when they have internal hallucinations inside their head they still hear a sound. The difference with an inner monologue/dialogue is that you hear your voice silently meaning you don’t actually hear a sound. Towards the end your video it came across a bit contradicting as you said internal hallucinations can sound the same as your inner dialogue which kinda overrides what you said in the beginning of your video. And also the definition of an hallucination is to be perceived as real otherwise it’s not an hallucination. Good video though! Thanks
I find your videos most helpful. Thanks so much!
Appreciate you!
I'm so pleased I found your channel. I just enjoy listening to you talking about things that have been thinking about my whole life. I hope you can keep articulating in the wonderful way you do and stay on top of your symptoms. Thanks Kit
Thanks for this comment I will do my best! 💪
I heard my dead dog whine, I heard a car horn when my brother was here talking to my sister, neither one of them heard the horn. Occasionally I hear someone call my name, I hear car doors a lot, and no one in the driveway, I live out in the country. I hear a lot of things around the house that I can't explain what they are.
I can totally relate and I sometimes get mixed up with my inner monologie and the voices in my head. They really can be crafty but when I change the voice of my inner monologue it's like they know the difference and rip into me for it. I've done a couple years on and off of antipsychotics and rn my doc and I are weening me down from them to see how I handle it. Thanks for your great explanation of the differences. I appreciate that
No problem! I’m so glad you found it helpful!
Be mindful that the reason they rip into you is because of your conscious awareness of what you did. Don't wrestle with the condition just be confident. In other words ignore them. You see those voices is just your consciousness you see the way you can alter the sound of the voice in which your thoughts work, those voices basically do this also because it's still you. It's really the power of the mind. I had to learn the hard way.
My thoughts move so fast that I can't keep up too
I have a very high inner monologue and imagination. It’s so high and well I questioned myself into high anxiety sometimes. My thoughts get so loud. Music espcislly
Thank you for sharing your experience and insights.🙏 You are amazing and awesome. Like the night sky if it appeared only one night a year.🌠
The fact that we both described inner auditory hallucinations with voice changers is incredible! 😮❤
Wow I'm schizoaffective too.. not too many of us on the net from what I've seen... I was actually brought here because I told a voice outside my head that they aren't real and they said people that hear voices hear their own voice and I said they hear foriegn voices to their own voice.
My hallucination is that I hear the voices of friends and people I grew up around and we're all secretly psychic and they can see what I'm doing even when I'm in my room all alone.
I've always known I think differently to other people, though I never understood why I think the way I do until I watched your video. Thank you
I honestly don’t really feel comfortable discussing my diagnosis is but I will say that when I was going through psychosis, I had no idea that my internal monologue was not normal. I thought everybody else around me was the crazy ones because I didn’t realize that internal monologue is some thing that you should be able to control.
I’m on medication now for my issues, and it basically woke me up because I had no idea how unreachable I was in that state.
Again, I don’t really like talking about diagnosis and stuff like that. My doctors know that I get very frustrated, but it is absolutely astounding how you can go through psychosis, and think those thoughts and I was just on aware completely of how much they were destructive to me.
Let’s just say I’m very thankful for my medication but it does suck because I still have this very fixed idea that this can’t be happening to me.
Thank you for sharing a little bit of your story here! I know how hard it can be to spit out words sometimes. And it’s wild what psychosis makes us believe is normal. It’s sneaky like that and I hate it. Again, thank you for sharing, and best of luck in your mental health journey!
Hey thanks for clearing this up.
The external ones can be caused from lack of sleep a classmate during my college years said near the end of the first semester that he thought he heard a moan while passing by one of the buildings on campus. he had been staying up late to deal with conference month. That what we called finals where I went to college.
Thank you for sharing. I too can hear voices and also have I.D. However, do you think it’s a gift that’s related to spirituality?
Kit is the name of the talking car in the old TV Series called "Night Rider" starting David Hassalhoff
YES!
I have the internal monologue, the narrator, voices, and I can think about other things while thinking about what I am saying and doing.
I am medicated due to my generalized anxiety and they, not long ago they changed my meds and now its quitter, and its weird to miss something that I know it was myself.
A few questions for Kit and/or anyone in the same boat (with my guessed answers):
- Do you feel like the author of your internal monologue (yes)?
- Do you feel like the author of your internal hallucinations (no)?
- Can you switch off your internal monologue, simply by choosing to do so (yes)?
- Can you switch off your internal hallucinations, simply by choosing to do so (no)?
- Can you switch off your internal monologue at all (yes, like above)?
- Can you switch off your internal hallucinations at all (only by sleeping, if they let you)?
- Do the internal voice hallucinations have the same tone, timbre, volume and other audio qualities as your own (inner) voice (no)?
i suffer from this.....great video kitz💪
ok, so I have 2 voices in my head, but I have named them.."logical". *Jamie*, the good one." And then there is the hag", *Le Ann*, she's the negative one. They sound just like me. The other night one of them called me a crotch. and laughed about it! she sounds like me. Then the other one was telling Le Ann to knock it off. But I think my thing is inner monolog because I can carry full on sentences with them, and both participate in conversation with me. I have always thought they were my "voices" that I hear. this started about 1-2 years after diagnosis. I really don't know what to think about it all. I'm confused, I guess. It would be comforting to know it's not the "bad" kind of hearing voices. But the good kind. Anyway, thank you for sharing your videos, it's very awesome you show is the raw version of your disorder.
You have 2 voices conversing inside, and I have nothing at all but the terrible and painful tinnitus.
rather have that I have 3 to 4 voices in my head
You are very well spoken and knowledgeable . Your hair looks amazing shaved on the side.
Thanks! It’s a fun hairstyle!
Mine is weird I have constant long monologue and when I talk it's just the monologue speaking out loud. It's like my monologue is joining my speech as one constantly. I'm able to sort of weigh pros and cons before speaking with it then blurt out what I want to say.
I believe the terms "Thinking to myself" or "Thinking out loud" have come from this.
I have this happen to me too. Sometimes my internal monologue is a women's voice.
I should really go to a psychiatrist everytime i go i always cancel the next appointment. Ive had voices in my head that suggest violent actions against others and most often myself. Idk why but ive also missed or dont remember stuff that happens in my life a lot. I just recently found out my grandpa died 3 years ago but i swear i never knew. My brother asked if i wanted to go to the funeral he said i told him i was busy. It doesnt feel real that he's gone and especially that i wouldnt remember i loved him so much. Either way i think ill try to go again, Thank you.
Ive been hearing voices internally but its all songs nonstop, do you have any advices for this?
Well I have been fortunate with this! I have a very extensive inner monologue that I use to bring my creativity to life onto the page as poetry! I have had only one disturbing voice that wasn’t my own come from the back of my mind! It was random and I have never had another!
Hopefully no more voices show up!
Thank you, this was very helpful! I do have a question, what would it mean if you only hear voices inside of your head when you think about it or if you’re worried?
Plenty of people on reddit have ocd and inner voice narrating thoughts. Alot of us have intrusive thoughts in inner voice or random mind pops ( like random word pops in your head). So what is the difference between this and internal hallucinations? Is this that you can clearly talk to your internal hallucinations like they are humans or?
Ohh interesting. I basically talk to myself but have full conversations. Yet in full control of the conversation from both aspects. I use that to test conversations I want to have by running test scripts. I did this as a means to control stuttering.
Can you give an example of what it means when the voices narrate your thoughts?
This might sound a little bizarre but I have always had an internal monologue, it has benefitted me as it allows me to think rationally without having to think aloud. But recently I became more aware of my internal monologue; like nothing unusual, the same ol' but it has made me anxious like "what if I start hallucinating or lose my mind completely?"
I have an internal monologue that is very chatty so I'm basically talking to myself in my head all the time. But when I first got sick as a teen there was a voice in my head I couldn't control. She sounded like me a lot but not exactly. So I thought that I was supposed to be a twin and that I absorbed her in the womb and her mind stayed alive inside my head. I don't believe that anymore, but I still hear it from time to time on meds if I'm under high stress, but I can't talk to her. She will say one sentence and then cut out. I guess that's thanks to the meds.
Oh interesting! Thank you for sharing! Glad the meds help ^_^
What can someone do if their loved one is hearing voices but doent want to take any medicine
Thanks ❤🙏...
I would propose that all voices, are coming from "the same" operating system, which has countless intentions...
The "me" voice", is apart from other voices, because the intention which produces the voice, although start, like all other intentions, below the threshold of "the screen of awareness", is amplified to the point of appearing there...
All actions... whether mental, vocal , or physical, once the intention to produce them, appear on this screen of awareness, automatically are accepted as belonging to this "me"...
In fact, that would be the definition of "me'.... intention that has reached the screen...
Many other actions, are done without the intention appearing on t screen...but because the pass as "normal" (like driving away a mosquito...ir even walking
...)... They are not noticed as not being "me'' created...
If such action would be very un typical, then an alarm may be sound inside...
Dividing these different (always ad hoc) voices, into belonging to a certain personality claster, is a game of the conscious mind...i think...not sure...
All intentions come from certain "filters" (perception programs), which process inputs...so...
Different filters will produce respective intentions...
As mentioned, all "voices", whether loud, or silent, are nothing but outcome of intentions...
The "ability" to "play" with more voices, apart from the official "me" voice...that is , with voices, who's generating intention is below the threshold, ...this ability emerge, when a door between conscious, and sub conscious, is opened...(sometimes temporary... sometimes permanently)...
It's important to remember that all voices are the same operating system...of which, "me" voice, is nothing but the official spokesman... because if the intention of "me" , is known, before vocal execution, it can be stopped, or manipulated...so it's a more safe voice, for interaction...
But playing with other voices...can be very de stabilizing... because no feeling of control...
But remember...there is no "other" inside...
Only one powerful operating system....
Once this door, between conscious and sub conscious, is open , then sub conscious (sub screen) intentions, get access to the "machinery of body and speech, and can preform actions, (mental , physical, and vocal)... without conscious intention, which are, because of that, experienced as not "my" actions...
I believe the main danger from this "game", is from fear, of this phenomenon...fear of loosing control...fear of foreign invaders...
So the most important thing is to relax and accept the present condition...
If fear is gone, it is not dangerous...
Then only what is left is patient observing, to understand, what these invented personality clasters, are coming to serve...what needs...
And are they really nessasary these days...
If not, they may stop, on their own...
But often attachment is developed to this painful game...so one needs to be very patient in descerning , rather than fight and try to stop by force...
It's much wiser, to stop slowly, through understanding...
Remember...the only one who is afraid, is the imaginary "me"...
Who needs to be in control...
Feel your self with love, and control will less needed...
For love to pervade, fear needs to go...
So helpful
I just speak out my internal monologue to myself 😅 I'd say if somebody caught me they'd think I'd lost my mind.
Where does alone rumination fit?
what about intrusive thoughts vs inner auditory hallucinations?
Stay tuned on the channel ;)
wait i can talk to to diffrent peopel in my head, but i cant control the voices sometimes but also i can, but i can even use talk in difrent peopels voices in my head and picture them saying it, but i have never reaaly paide much atention to my thoughts but i know thay are there
The voices in my head keep tellin me get to tha money get get to tha money
I just hear a women whisper to me and a man. I never know what they’re saying but it’s scary… it just started happening .. they sound far away or right up close but they always whisper and it sounds like it’s on a radio. Sometimes a echo. I also hear people walking and clicking.. bro what’s happening????!! I’m only 15.
I got asked if i heard things that arent there i thought they ment like ghosts but maybe they were talking about this
I can "audiate" but Ive Never had internal mologue with a voice out of the blue. I did howeved had Musical auditory hallucinations. I had a rough childhood
I am very confused about the internal chit chat.
I have been dealing with mental health problems and lots of therapy since 2019.
I have know for 30 plus years I have Depression.
It’s evolved into C-ptsd,MDD, GAD, ADHD,,
And now fast forward 2019- present my labels have evolved but are still in the diagnostics process.
Now BPD, Bipolar and now maybe Schizoaffective disorder.
My shitty committee in my mind is very loud about SI.
So I just wonder if it’s a “voice”
Dbt definitely has been a help❤
Thanks for the videos ❤
Maybe I should see a psychologist...
i feel like my internal voice sounds like mine but like, if i didnt sleep for 10 years and smoked a pack a day, I scream back at mine and it makes them less loud
Literally just found out at 31, i have internal psychosis less then 24 hrs ago. 😅😭 thanks for the video and helping me accept this creepiness
It’s going to be okay!
How are you now?
I had both external Nd internal...
External when I would be inside and then they became internal when id go outside...
Sometimes my internal monologue is in Cosmo Kramer's voice.
Tank you your awesome
I thought having random intrusive voices in your head you couldn’t control and could have full on conversations with was normal?
I def can’t talk to my own intrusive thoughts. All I can say on this topic specifically is… stay tuned on the channel ;)
aaaaaaaaaaaa i cant tell if its a voice(s) or just an internal monologue, or even if I have one this is so confusing 😭😭😭😭
My internal monologue is unusually aggressive? E.g. I'm doing a little task at work and I hear an imaginary customer demand I stop mucking about and serve them, or complain about the mess I'm making 😅 but all my auditory *hallucinations* are noises, and not voices
Actually not strictly true! I've heard imaginary burglars break in and mutter in my living room, but I can't discern the actual words lol
Iol this sounds so friendly
I'm super confused still on what I'm doing ..but it mad since and clarified the internal monologue which of course I thought had to be normal ...But always questioned if I'm talking to myself or afraid I'll get caught because sometimes I do it out loud, and I'll answer myself back simple example: (in my head)Damn that cheesecake looks good ...hell yea but you know damn well it will mess your stomach up ...fuck it go ahead and get it .. ????normal right (in my head just not i said" hell yea")
Have you tried reciting Pslams to make the voices be quite? I'm not religious but I've heard a psychologist speak about how well it works.
I have heard voices before, but its generally when im tired.
Learn to control your thoughts people.
I have ADHD and dyslexia, so I'm one to talk.
Im tired of finding out all these things are symptoms. I have absolutely 0 personality. Just symptoms
When I realized I have autism I also realized that I was suppressing a lot of myself to make others comfortable. I felt very disconnected from who I am and it was a very sad and uneasy feeling. I still feel a bit like that, but it's been a while and I'm feeling better. I hope that you're feeling more connected with yourself now that it's been a while since you left this comment.
@@EamonWill nope. Still feel this way.
I'm alone and experience both.
He Knows
What i don't understand is what drives people to act on immoral voices? Is it just lack of self control or maybe hoping it will quiet the voices?
Depends on the person and a wide variety of factors
Ummm...I always have inner dialogues with imaginary friends that have unique identities of their own, of which I could choose to engage with or not. This I guess is neither hearing voices nor internal monologue.
ITS YOU with in you..
❤
Weird that in native traditions hearing voices is regarded as scared and as guide from the great spirit, the great mystery. But in western and settler cultures is related to mental illnesses and sickness. A wise man called Carlos Castaneda ones wrote books on how to stop the internal dialogue.