The Best Way to Hunt Shiny Alpha Pokémon! - Legends: Arceus Massive Mass Outbreak Permutation Guide

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  • @SirToastyToes
    @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому +37

    If you're curious about specifics of how and why this method works as well as other Pokemon you can't permutate check out Ms. L's detailed guide here!
    docs.google.com/document/d/1LCeMLG1QgPCj3oZwtj-iggkTanTNNHMxIVoJO_-r2V8/edit?usp=drivesdk

    • @The-Miss-L
      @The-Miss-L 2 місяці тому +2

      Thanks Toast! A video guide is definitely incredibly helpful for this kind of thing, as there's only so much info one can convey through a written guide compared to actually seeing someone going through it themselves along with the helpful edit showing the permutation, but there are also quite a few different nuances that can't possibly fit into a 12 minute video. Overall though, absolutely phenomenal video!

  • @delphoxhoopa7289
    @delphoxhoopa7289 2 місяці тому +99

    I'll never forget to joy I felt when I saw the sparkles on my Shiny Alpha Infernape. It was the first time I ever intentionally shiny hunted a Pokemon, not to mention that it was extra special since Legends Arceus was the first time I ever got a Shiny Charm. Heck, the day I found it (November 1st 2023), was two weeks before Scarlet and Violet came out. Now I'm moving on to Celebi in Crystal!

    • @RealSkello
      @RealSkello 2 місяці тому +3

      Good luck brave soldier. Hunting that one on and off for the last year

    • @IIK_DOTII
      @IIK_DOTII 2 місяці тому +1

      good luck brave soldier. May god be with you on this journey. Keep us notified soldier 🫡

    • @flyingtypetrainer4072
      @flyingtypetrainer4072 2 місяці тому +1

      Reading your story brought a smile to my face. Happy you were successful in your search, and for such a cool 'mon too!

    • @delphoxhoopa7289
      @delphoxhoopa7289 2 місяці тому +1

      @@flyingtypetrainer4072 Thanks! I've always wanted a Shiny Infernape, to the point I initially tried soft resetting in Pearl before I eventually played through the game. It was such a surreal feeling finally getting a shiny of my favorite Pokemon after so many years!

    • @delphoxhoopa7289
      @delphoxhoopa7289 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@RealSkelloFinally got it yesterday!

  • @StickMaster500
    @StickMaster500 2 місяці тому +38

    Also, from my knowledge, there is a Discord server that's able to tell you the seed for that outbreak by having a bot review the first 4 Pokemon in that outbreak where it gives you a seed, you pop it into a seed finder and it's able to provide you with the exact instructions for that specific Pokemon you wanted

  • @Argentum723
    @Argentum723 2 місяці тому +26

    8:20 I'm really glad you mentioned Rowlet specifically for this method, now I know I can get the big minty boy with little to no issues :)

    • @Aurora_Animates
      @Aurora_Animates 2 місяці тому +1

      Heheh big minty boy , I love rowelt : )

  • @valejera1374
    @valejera1374 2 місяці тому +15

    wow the timing on this! i was just trying to hunt a shiny alpha zorua/zoroark, thank you for this video!

  • @CybernetCatgirl
    @CybernetCatgirl 2 місяці тому +28

    NOTE: The multi-despawn method also fails on the Lickitung line, and frankly with any other mon that is neither skittish nor aggressive in any regard (if any others apply).

  • @angriestjoker
    @angriestjoker Місяць тому +3

    Out of all the videos explaining this method, yours was by far the easiest and most straightforward to understand. Thanks a bunch!!

  • @DarkDepth2000
    @DarkDepth2000 2 місяці тому +8

    I remember when I tried following the alpha line in the Coronet Highlands. Second time I followed the trail I was greeted with a Shiny Alpha Probopass, still leaves a smile to this day.

  • @GalvaStar771
    @GalvaStar771 2 місяці тому +4

    I used this method specificly for magikarp because i wanted the alpha mark in Violet, I popped off so hard seeing that giant golden fish.

  • @SSuser-go7jm
    @SSuser-go7jm 2 місяці тому +4

    I just love hunting these guys, no special methods but just doing the sparkling massive outbreaks. Even got 2 non alpha horde shiny alphas, one just about a month after the games release from just a normal outbreak.

  • @fe_three_rosses
    @fe_three_rosses 2 місяці тому +4

    I've been aware of this method for a while but never really understood how it worked because of the way other people explained it, but this explanation helped me get it! :D thank you!

  • @AkemiStormBorn
    @AkemiStormBorn 2 місяці тому +6

    I feel like this video was specifically made because of the absolute crisis I have had trying to get a shiny Alpha Togepi/Togetic for like half a year, which brought me to the comment section of the Weakest Ribbon Master video. I then proceeded to lose my mind because I couldn't understand what I was doing wrong after you replied. I see the problem- I wasn't fast travelling away from the outbreak fast enough. What I'm understanding from the explanation here is because timid Pokemon don't fight, I have to 'simulate' KOing them by running away when they have the ! over their head. So when I'm following the permutation method for timid Pokemon, the KOs need to be replaced with ! and fast travelling. Have I understood this right this time?
    Also it must be said- THANK YOU for this simple guide to permutations! The way you explained it makes it seem so much less complicated.

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому

      @@AkemiStormBorn Yup! Just make sure you're quick enough that by the time you have the last Pokemon panicking the first hasn't had enough time to calm down

  • @diaryofagoat-lass1023
    @diaryofagoat-lass1023 2 місяці тому +1

    I had NO idea the permutation guide was that big. I've been doing the basic 12-15 turns and if it didn't show up, oh well. Thank you very much!!
    Might finally get that friggin' shiny Alpha Zorua

  • @Whitepawprint
    @Whitepawprint 2 місяці тому +4

    I convinced my friend to play my copy of PLA while I was visiting, and out of nowhere the alpha parasect was shiny! BUT it turned out he hadn't unlocked the ability to catch alphas yet 😭 I nearly cried

  • @flyingtypetrainer4072
    @flyingtypetrainer4072 2 місяці тому +1

    Another great video, thanks a ton for your contributions to the community!

  • @zairnator6410
    @zairnator6410 2 місяці тому +1

    Was just doing Rufflet hunting the other day and had a random pilloswine spawn as a shalpha. I was absolutely overjoyed

  • @e_z__r_a
    @e_z__r_a 2 місяці тому +1

    YESSS I'M SO HAPPY YOU MADE THIS

  • @camtf24
    @camtf24 2 місяці тому +2

    your stuffs always great man, thanks for the content 🙏

  • @CaptainObliviousV
    @CaptainObliviousV 2 місяці тому +2

    Outbreaks have always frustrated me, especially MMOs, I see now that it was just because I was working with surface level info this whole time. The way everyone else talked about it, I thought it was either you catch or kill with results only slightly varying, simple as that, so I always just opted to catch since it saved time on the MMO storm and got extremely upset when every mon would get pissed at the slightest mistake and I’d have to battle them all. Seeing how in depth it can actually get gives me a bit of relief, knowing it was simply a lack of knowledge on my part on how to go about hunting in them.

  • @RenatusPhoenix
    @RenatusPhoenix 2 місяці тому +1

    Wow, I should really get back to shiny hunting on legends arceus after this, i havent touched the game in a while either. Last time I did I was about half way done with a box of shinies lol.
    I'll never forget the time I stumbled upon a full odds (w/o shiny charm either) shiny alpha glalie while I was trying to hunt other pokemon in the outbreaks.

  • @thenewdarling1
    @thenewdarling1 2 місяці тому +1

    yesss!! the king returns!!

  • @EternalRadiant
    @EternalRadiant 2 місяці тому +5

    Vouch. Permutation is OP

  • @clementepokevideos
    @clementepokevideos 2 місяці тому +2

    About the "L" or "Ghost Permutations", it shiuld be mentioned that youy can do it multiple times (leave the area) as far there is less than 4 pokemon left in the first horde.
    Also, the second horde could be permutate as well (but without L/ghosts option)
    =)

  • @BraveFrontierRemeberer
    @BraveFrontierRemeberer 2 місяці тому +5

    i tried permutations but it just lacked something i was sick of ticking a box instead of just flying around and reseting the area so i stuck with just going after the statics i wanted, i did find my shiny alpha Rhyhorn and my first shiny in Acreus was a alpha female swinub

  • @ismaelswaggie5564
    @ismaelswaggie5564 2 місяці тому +1

    This was great I came across an Alpha Prinplup outbreak and used this opportunity to do this method for a Shiny. Someday I will do this to get Cohozuna(Shiny Male Alpha Basculegion). Fun Fact: I also caught the Female version from a Normal Basculin outbreak.

  • @Rey3518
    @Rey3518 29 днів тому +1

    Alpha pokemon shiny are just too cool and wow that is the Scizor of all ribbons video? awesome

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  29 днів тому +1

      @@Rey3518 Yeah Toast makes a few cameos in all my Pokemon videos haha, they're up against Bibarel at the beginning, their brother Loaf is the one doing the Sneasel permutation

    • @Rey3518
      @Rey3518 29 днів тому +1

      @SirToastyToes Now that is a friendship for sure loyal toast for the win

  • @JudeVibess
    @JudeVibess 2 місяці тому +1

    This was perfect timing! I'm actually getting Legends: Arceus this Monday, and this helps a lot. You did a great job of explaining everything. I couldn't find any tutorials that actually showed how to do it; most of them just explained it without really showing it in-game. You're a lifesaver! I do have one question, though: do you save at the camp before going to the outbreak for resets, or do you save at the actual outbreak? Or does it even matter? (this question might seem newbie I know)

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому +1

      @@JudeVibess You just have to save before catching or defeating any Pokemon, I'd save close enough to not have to travel but not so close that the Pokemon can see you

    • @JudeVibess
      @JudeVibess 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SirToastyToes ty lol

  • @christianrodriguez3877
    @christianrodriguez3877 2 місяці тому +2

    Love the vid!! Unfortunately it doesn’t help my current hunt. I’m at 657 Johtonian Sneasel / Weavile encounters in Space Time Distorions for a Shalpha Sneasel / Weavile that is so slow due to how long it takes to spawn the distortions. But the hunt continues and one day I’ll get my Shalpha!!

  • @wanderingtyphlosion7332
    @wanderingtyphlosion7332 2 місяці тому +1

    I've been doing soft resets a lot on the side while going for 0atk 0speed Blood Moon Ursaluna on a second Switch. I'm up to 4-5 phases for the bear, MMOs were the perfect addition to PLA

  • @mrcerulean7406
    @mrcerulean7406 Місяць тому +1

    Honestly, getting any if the Alpha Basculin line, Alpha Togepi line, and Alpha Chatot has been the bane of my shiny hunting since those are skittish, and those are my only targets left aside from completing the shiny Unown alphabet. Maybe the ghost hunting might help.

  • @portwise23
    @portwise23 2 місяці тому +4

    The true final 100% of Legends Arceus is creating a quad living form dex. Every pokemon form, normal, shiny, alpha, and alpha shiny. Plus of course completing the eternal battle reverie, the path of solitude for every species, and max completion of every pokedex task. The quad living dex allows you to see every form that is possible for a pokemon though, as it shows slightly different data/counts alphas as a form that you can display. Alolan Vulpix/Ninetales shinies must be transferred in, and so must all the shiny legendaries and mythicals, aside from Enamorus, and none of those can display as alphas unfortunately.

    • @portwise23
      @portwise23 2 місяці тому +3

      Though, anyone who actually tries this, hunting every single shiny and alpha shiny is probably insane. I imagine at least 1000 hours of playtime are required for this sort of challenge, and you'll inevitably hate the game by the end of it.

    • @SunMoonSpeedruns
      @SunMoonSpeedruns Місяць тому

      Don’t forget origin formes

    • @portwise23
      @portwise23 Місяць тому

      @@SunMoonSpeedruns Origin forms of Dialga and Palkia are tied to items that are available in Scarlet and Violet, not generational gimmicks. They're not in danger of going extinct as long as Gamefreak makes the connected items available in the game somewhere (like the Reveal glass for the therian forms)

    • @SunMoonSpeedruns
      @SunMoonSpeedruns Місяць тому

      @@portwise23 i was just saying that they should be included in the dex because they are technically forms too

    • @portwise23
      @portwise23 Місяць тому

      @@SunMoonSpeedruns Oh, I forgot to read the context for your comment (my own comment lol), I thought this was on another video where I was commenting about other forms so I assumed wrong. Yes, you'd transfer in an extra Dialga and Palkia, and an extra shiny Dialga and Palkia for the origin forms of the final pokedex possible in PLA.

  • @svensklazeski7396
    @svensklazeski7396 Місяць тому +2

    I just went to shiny hunt shiny blissey, no joke my fourth reset of the map I got it😭😁😆

  • @lags6117
    @lags6117 2 місяці тому +2

    I caught 2 shiny alpha Overquill that spawned one after another

  • @scaleonkhan183
    @scaleonkhan183 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!!

  • @KrazyPugz
    @KrazyPugz 2 місяці тому +1

    My first Shalpha is a Shiny Zorua which i ribbon mastered with ease

  • @Redpanda9791
    @Redpanda9791 2 місяці тому +1

    Toast is the goat

  • @mr.e9760
    @mr.e9760 2 місяці тому +1

    I think Lickitung/Lickilicky have the same reaction as Magikarp in MMO.

  • @francisco7021
    @francisco7021 2 місяці тому +2

    I want a shiny h-arcanine so bad, maybe i will give it a try... seems kinda difficult for my dumb mind

  • @Defoozor
    @Defoozor 2 місяці тому +1

    What does one do if there’s a Pokemon outbreak that can be agro, but never attack in groups?? I tried it with a perfect outbreaks of Riolu and Rotom - no matter how many times I tried to get them battling in groups of even two - no luck
    Do I just give up?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому

      @@Defoozor I've managed to get Rotom to battle in groups, just make sure they've properly spotted you and hit them with an item to make sure just before the battle!

    • @Defoozor
      @Defoozor 2 місяці тому +1

      @ I see the problem now - they just don’t join the group while attacking me. It’s tricky, but possible. Thank you! :}

    • @mrcerulean7406
      @mrcerulean7406 Місяць тому +1

      Have you tried using sticky globs? If you want to battle three Rotom at the same time for example make sure they get the aggro aura, hit two with sticky globs and then hit a third one with the Pokemon you choose to battle it before the other two snap out of stun. Its worked for me with Pokemon that are not aggressive unless you strike first like Rotom, Roselia and Dartrix for example. Make sure not to do a back strike with the third pokemon otherwise it just goes to a one on one batle.

  • @powerupeast9831
    @powerupeast9831 Місяць тому +1

    Having a really hard time with Finneon! I cant seem to get them to despawn in a group, might be impossible or a skill issue on my part

  • @thatoneguy9057
    @thatoneguy9057 Місяць тому +1

    Currently going for a garchomp

  • @Jaquavas-l5o
    @Jaquavas-l5o 46 хвилин тому

    I feel so lucky I got a alpha garchomp outbreak

  • @gabrielamaro1470
    @gabrielamaro1470 2 місяці тому +2

    I had no idea about the timid pokemon method! I really wanted a Shiny Alpha Togekiss, so that helps a lot!
    I also had a question about second waves. Will they consistently be all nonalpha or all alpha across all permutations of a specific MMO or can it vary?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому +1

      @@gabrielamaro1470 An MMO's second wave type is determined when you enter the map, so that's why you can see so many alphas when the second wave will always be all alphas

  • @deathwolf890
    @deathwolf890 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm trying to follow this because I've been having a hell of a time trying to find a female shiny zorua/zorark and I guess I'm just getting confused because I have a gold star horde of zorua in the snowfield but the number of zorua in the first wave seems to be changing and sometimes there is a zorark sprinkled in to the first wave. so far the second wave has always consisted of 8 zorark, non alpha.

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому

      The reason a Zoroark sometimes appears in the first wave is because of the permutations the roll to get a Zorua in the first wave gives you a Zoroark instead.
      I think the reason you are seeing the number in the first wave fluctuate is because timid Pokemon can sometimes despawn even when you don't want them to if they were too close to another that you hit with a berry. Try using bait to separate the ones you want to despawn from the reset of the group

  • @SeaCaptainFinn
    @SeaCaptainFinn 2 місяці тому +1

    Ohhh my god i've been doing this wrong. I misunderstood the instructions and was just individually KOing the pokemon instead of in a group 😭
    Now that I know that i'll try it out again. Shalpha Chingling will be mine.

  • @seanydog
    @seanydog 2 місяці тому +1

    What do I do for a outbreak that has a mix of skittish and aggressive mon?
    I got a big pichu outbreak has a few pikachu and alpha pichu that agro but the normal pichu flee
    How do I despawn 4 at once if there are two aggressive and two skittish spawned?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому +1

      @@seanydog Unfortunately you're limited in what permutations you can do in such a scenario, but with the Leave permutations you should be able to still get a good number of encounters

    • @seanydog
      @seanydog Місяць тому +1

      @SirToastyToes yeah it starts with 3 pichus and a pikachu

  • @deka7130
    @deka7130 26 днів тому +1

    do i need to see all the pokemon in second wave? or the first spawn is enough?.

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  26 днів тому

      All six or seven Alphas in the second wave can potentially be shiny

  • @jackal0p
    @jackal0p 2 місяці тому +1

    i wish i had the attention span required for this method

  • @squiddothekiddo
    @squiddothekiddo 21 день тому +1

    Does a timid pokemon running away count as a catch or are each of them their own individual kos

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  21 день тому

      @@squiddothekiddo If they run away individually that is equivalent to catching it

    • @squiddothekiddo
      @squiddothekiddo 21 день тому +1

      @SirToastyToes ok, thanks!

  • @Cpt.PoodlePug
    @Cpt.PoodlePug 2 місяці тому +1

    Quick question, say you have to KO 2 pokemon, and then KO 3 pokemon like you did in the video. Do the battles Specifically need to have 2 and 3 enemies in it? Or can I have a multi battle of four, and just KO 2, leave, and KO 3?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому

      @@Cpt.PoodlePug I think they need to start with at least that many Pokemon, so you can see I start a battle with 2 Pokemon for the KO KO cell and start a battle with 3 for KO KO KO, I think you can start the battle with more than you need but it complicates it unnecessarily

    • @Cpt.PoodlePug
      @Cpt.PoodlePug 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SirToastyToes Aight thank you, I would like to start the battle with exactly how many I need but I don't really know how to control how many go into the battle. As soon as I get to an outbreak there are four mons, and so there are always four mons in the battle with me

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  2 місяці тому

      @Cpt.PoodlePug Usually only the ones that see you and have become aggressive will battle, so to get fewer try hitting them from a distance or hitting only a few of them with berries or bait from cover

    • @Cpt.PoodlePug
      @Cpt.PoodlePug 2 місяці тому +1

      @@SirToastyToes That seemed to work! Thank you!

  • @jetbluefinjames9952
    @jetbluefinjames9952 19 днів тому +1

    Do you save before entering the area of the outbreak, or do you save while your in the area?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  19 днів тому +1

      @@jetbluefinjames9952 Save near the outbreak you want to do the permutations on, you'll usually have to save near it to check if it has a second wave anyway

    • @jetbluefinjames9952
      @jetbluefinjames9952 19 днів тому +1

      @ oki! Thanks!

    • @jetbluefinjames9952
      @jetbluefinjames9952 19 днів тому +1

      @@SirToastyToes how would it work for voltorb? I can’t get them to battle me in groups and I only battle one at a time

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  19 днів тому

      @jetbluefinjames9952 Make sure each one notices you and does the exclamation point animation, you can hit them with berries or bait to make sure they noticed

  • @AnthonyyV
    @AnthonyyV 23 дні тому +1

    Does the method of static alpha encounters still work? Where you try an outbreak catch ‘em all and keep resetting for the alpha shiny appear?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  23 дні тому +1

      @@AnthonyyV Not since the Daybreak DLC update

    • @AnthonyyV
      @AnthonyyV 23 дні тому +1

      @ ahh okayy thanks, I recently came back to the game and was hoping it would still work lol

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  23 дні тому

      @@AnthonyyV You can remove your update data to get access to the old method though

    • @AnthonyyV
      @AnthonyyV 22 дні тому +1

      @ whoa really? How?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  22 дні тому +1

      @@AnthonyyV It's an option under the game options on the switch. If you want to connect online though you'll need to be on the latest update so keep that in mind

  • @lubenmitrachkov3060
    @lubenmitrachkov3060 Місяць тому +1

    Can you save anywhere in the map? Or do I have to be in the outbreak already?

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  Місяць тому

      @@lubenmitrachkov3060 You'll want to save close to the outbreak just because you'll be resetting back to the start of it a lot

    • @lubenmitrachkov3060
      @lubenmitrachkov3060 Місяць тому +1

      @@SirToastyToes ohhh ok I see! Also do I have to do permutations on both the first and second horde? Or is the second horde always randomized.

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  Місяць тому

      @lubenmitrachkov3060 The second horde can be permutated a *little* bit because how you defeat them affects the two or three behind them, but I'd only do it if you get to the end of the regular first wave permutations on a particularly rare outbreak, otherwise it's a lot of time for very little return

    • @lubenmitrachkov3060
      @lubenmitrachkov3060 Місяць тому +1

      @@SirToastyToes how rare is spiritomb with a star? I’m trying to hunt spiritomb right now about half way down the list of 25 and not sure if I should continue after finishing those if I don’t get it

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes  Місяць тому

      @lubenmitrachkov3060 Spiritomb is a very common second wave alpha, you basically just have to get the 15% second wave at all, it will always be alphas for Pokemon without an evolution line

  • @FederxDev
    @FederxDev 2 місяці тому +2

    any info on getting ranch to work on english platinum?

  • @SunsetBear
    @SunsetBear 2 місяці тому +1

    I feel like this is too easy haha I wish outbreaks could never have alphas so that alpha pokémon and especially shiny alpha pokémon could remain special.