Halo 5: Guardians In 2021 - Was It REALLY That Bad?
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2021
- Halo 5 is often regarded as the worst Halo when it comes to its campaign. With Halo Infinite out in the wild, I thought now would be a good time to revisit the game and talk about all that 343 got right and wrong with this maligned title.
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Halo 5 was the first Halo I wasn’t excited for and didn’t play at launch. Then hearing from friends and the community it was terrible I went in with such low expectations I ended up really enjoying it. My biggest problem with the story is it feels like a sequel to a game we haven’t played. Also like you said Halo campaigns come with different expectations than other multiplayer shooters. For example COD Vanguards campaign makes Halo 5 campaign look like a masterpiece.
I dropped off after 3 but recently went back and played the collection. I enjoyed my time with halo 5, not great but good.
I miss the time of modern warfare and black ops when COD campaigns were gold standard video game storytelling.
@@ethankuntz7409 that was never the case lmao
cod campaigns are more like demos. and halo campaign is a primary part of it. I'm always baffled when halo is described as 'multiplayer shooter', the story/campaign is a huge deal lol
I'd actually say that Halo 5 feels like the middle to a story. Like not even a part two of a trilogy but more like the fourth issue of a twelve issue graphic novel. You don't get the context nor the resolution.
The biggest problem with the most recent trilogy is none of the games have anything to do with each other. You can skip right from 3 to infinite and be only slightly more lost than if you played 4 and 5.
I think that was the goal with infinite, because of how 4 and 5 spun the story lol
What? I have to laugh at this comment as it makes no sense lol
You must be shitting me
I kinda see the overall point you're making. Infinite feels like a sequel to game we never got. But that still wouldn't change a lot of the stupidity of the writing.
I think that with Infinte that was intentional and they wanted to start relatively fresh.
I played through the MCC and Halo 5 before Infinite launched. I was actually late to the game, so I hadn't played any of them before. I liked Reach the most, but 5 wasn't bad at all. They definitely took a chance with the direction of the story line. Wouldn't have been my first choice, but I thought it worked. Game play was fun, and I love me some Nathan Fillion.
I know it's not the "cool" thing to say, but Halo 5's MP was my all time favorite. Made me feel more like a Spartan than any other Halo before, and I also loved Warzone/Firefight
Vocal minority stuck in the past who just wanted to play halo 2 again unfortunately ruined it by crying about the game moving forward and actually improving. Halo 5 was incredible and I'm so disappointed infinite removed all the movement features
@@WoodstarForges same!
Completely agree.
Played the shit out of the mp
@@WoodstarForges same. The same dorks cried about cortana getting an actual arc too.
Marketing team definitely must have written their scripts before the story got restructured at the last minute because the tones were totally different.
As a big fan of the books I felt like this game honestly squandered all of its attempts at bringing in stuff from the books. Blue team hardly has any characterisation for example. I felt like everyone that didn't read the books thought things would make more sense having read it and I don't really think that is true.
Same, I knew exactly who blue team was and I still didn't like it. The only thing that they really nailed about Blue Team was their loadouts.
@@Volker_A4 And Kelly's British accent. :P
This hasn’t been stated enough, so thank you!!!! I was hyped for Blue Team having read the original three Eric Nylund books and I felt the exact same way. Then Halo Infinite doesn’t address what happened to them either which is absolutely disappointing. Don’t get me wrong I liked how it went back to its roots but 6 years of development with no answers for what happened to Every1 in halo 5 and halo wars 2 made me a lil frustrated lol
@@Volker_A4 i knew who they were too; they didnt portray them wrong or improper; whats not to like?
The multiplayer was actually really good. Certainly better than Halo 4 at the very least. The forge was absolutely amazing (when it came out, which like Infinite it wasn’t at launch).
The campaign was just so atrocious though. And I think a large part of the hatred for Halo 5 was due to the marketing lies. The “hunt the truth” campaign may have been the WORST case of false advertising I’ve ever seen for any game (maybe No Mans Sky is worse, but it’s close).
I wanna start by saying that I agree with your overall point that there were good ideas with poor execution. However, I've got several more-than-little nitpicks with your arguments.
6:30 Chief is not a way higher rank than Locke. It's unclear where "Spartan" ranks compared to the Chief considering the Chief has an actual NCO rank (Master Chief Petty Officer), but prior to becoming a Spartan, Locke was a Lt. Commander.
Second, I've always disputed folks who cry foul at the fight scene. Neither of them are trying to hurt each other. Locke already previously established that he respects the Chief and all he's done for all Humanity. Chief is not looking to go as far as killing a fellow Human or Spartan, he's not ACTUALLY a traitor. If you view that fight as two super soldiers trying to measure just how much force is needed to complete their goal, it makes a lot more sense...it's just not communicated well visually. It expects you to understand that they're not actually at each others' throats...which the marketing does NOT help with.
In hindsight, I understand that the marketing was going for "Whose version of the truth is the real truth?" which actually also applied back onto the marketing. The marketing's versions of the truth were all exaggerations, which is a small commentary on how the truth often becomes distorted and exaggerated as it is passed around. That's was NOT a great way to approach marketing this game, however.
7:27 Chief's realizing that Cortana is off the rails didn't happen off-screen, it happened on-screen for you, the player, during the mission Genesis; I do agree more than that was needed to make it clear but an attempt was made there.
11:33 Calling thrusters too Call of Duty is an interesting take considering MJOLNIR has always canonically had them. Previously, those thrusters were only rated for vacuum use (which is how the Chief is able to actually control his movement in a vacuum). Having more powerful versions than can be used in small bursts in-atmo is actually pretty Halo, and that's coming from a 20-year lore vet. CoD thrusters seem like it's ripping off other things rather than the other way around. I can understand how these abilities made the skill ceiling too high in Multiplayer but it honestly made the game sandbox feel more like Spartans had always been portrayed in the books (as the games have ALWAYS felt dissonant from that).
Also, it took years for people to soften to Halo 5's multiplayer at all. A very long time.
Very well said. Spartans are supposed to upgrade, use all the latest technology. Master chief is an almost indestructible badass (at least how he's portrayed), his bulky appearance with a darker visor and armor in terms of colour made him genuinely fit the legendary super soldier
Your last point is exactly why I probably like Halo 5's multiplayer the most and don't have a problem with all of it's features. The game gave you the tools to actually make you feel like a hyperlethal badass. As someone who has read some books and a lot of Warhammer 40k Space Marine media, I know Spartans and other supersoldiers are supposed to have abnormally-high dexterity and be lightning bruisers instead of lumbering tanks. The games have influenced most game-only fans that they are the latter, which goes completely against their combat doctrine. They are too used to Spartans being invincible superheroes instead of elite (but still killable) soldiers.
The equipment in Halo 5 feels like it was meant to show a player how a Spartan would actually fight. They will actually shoulder-charge you if you get in their way (Spartan Charge), they will slam on your body from above with their bulk (Ground Pound), they know when it is a good idea to maneuver or retreat (Sprint, Slide, and Clamber), and they have reaction times far faster than a normal human (Thruster Pack). I think normal joe gamers didn't get what truly made a Spartan a supersoldier, until Halo 5 showed them and they realized just how out of their league their thought process was.
Matty I highly enjoy all of your xbox, halo, and bethesda coverage and your skits you do in the videos. I would truly love to see you redo the best rpg list at the end of 2022. New games will have come out between now and then and definitely since the last RPG ranking video. Thank you if you read this and consider this very far future video idea.
Good idea
I played halo 5 all of highschool especially early highschool. I have a lot of good memories with that game and I’m glad my friends and I all got together again to play halo infinite
Same feeling I had about Halo 5. Wish that Infinite had the diversity of locations like Halo 5 did though. Great video.
This is so true, just played the campaign. Story and characters are lame but DAMN i Love the locations
I feel like people were way too harsh on halo 5. Yeah there’s some issues with the story and the ending felt incomplete but all around the game was still very fun to play. Halo 5 had some of the best gun play and levels out of any of the halo games in my opinion.
Honestly my biggest issue with Halo 5 was the lack of splitscreen. Me and my mate sat and played through every single Halo campaign splitscreen in order, and we got to Halo 5 and we had to just take turns on the campaign in order to experience it together, and that was really disappointing!
The multiplayer was fun though!
Truth. No co-op of any kind is a huuuugge bane of the game.
Gameplay was my personal favorite, I felt like a Spartan for the first time in being able to do crazy physical stuff. If you really think about it, the only thing that gave you a different shooting experience from other shooters, despite being super soldiers, was shields. So with the added Spartan abilities, I felt like a Spartan. And the gunplay was the best imo, each weapon had a good feel to it and an ease in use.
Storyline was jumbled, I personally would have loved for the Didact to have been the big bad of the trilogy considering he's a Forerunner who hates humanity and this is the Reclaimer saga, where humanity is reclaiming the Mantle. It would have been cool to see him fully utilized, maybe holding Cortana captive in the Domain and using the Guardians since they're the most powerful Forerunner weapons. That could have explained Cortana surviving and not ruining her character. The Didact would have even played in awesomely to the current Infinite story with the Endless, since we would have an actual Forerunner around.
Multiplayer was the best one I've played imo. I think the maps had a good balance, were scaled properly and had tons of spots where you could do cool things. The Req system I liked because you got to choose what you wanted to play with, if you wanted a tank, you didn't have to hope it gets dropped off on your side of the map and you outrace your teammates to get it. The social aspect was clutch as you could add people as friends easily and get a good fireteam going pretty easily.
I do hope they port it over to MCC so that it can come to PC, currently as it is, once I get to 100 on this season's battle pass in Infinite, I'll probably stop playing till the next one.
Wow this was a great video. I remember playing through Halo 5 and really liking it, but quickly after I think my opinion was sort of overtaken with the wave of negative reviews and community opinion. I still have fond memories, think I'll boot it up again! Reach will always be my favorite though
After playing Halo 5 recently getting ready for Infinite I can say that it's definitely not as bad has people make out it is , maybe it was people expecting more from it or just more hate for 343 . Maybe it's the worst out of the halo game but a good game , all together I had fun. What more can I ask for .
@Calo Nord yeah maybe but personally I didn't pay for it played it on gamepass and way late so to me what more could I ask for than a fun game .
I think a lot of the hatred (rightly) comes from the false advertisement that 343 pushed before launch.
@@thunderbird7020 ok I seen alot of that being said but didn't see it myself
I just played through every Halo game couch coop in preparation for Halo Infinite and I can confirm Halo 5 was abysmal, at least from a narrative standpoint. Also notice I said couch coop. I had to play Halo 5 with one controller passing back and forth because they thought taking couch coop out of the most couch coop franchise was a good idea.
@xMisterFlamex I think their biggest narrative misstep was actually Halo 4. If you are a fan of the lore and the books, the Didact and Librarian, as well as pretty much the entire Forerunner race probably deserved a trilogy similar to how the Flood got their trilogy from CE to Halo 3. The way we are slowly introduced to the Flood and learn about what the Flood is, how it spreads, what it’s intentions are, why the rings were built, how the Halo Array works, I could go on. We should have gotten this level of complexity and story telling about the Forerunners. One of the biggest mysteries leftover after Halo 3 got glossed over within minutes in Halo 4. They just release the Didact and just do a “bad guy bad” “good guy good” bullshit story without any complexity. Halo 4 should have been an entire trilogy with careful pacing and a less black and white good versus evil plot line. The Forerunners are some of the best lore in the franchise and they got done super dirty in Halo 4. Which then led into Halo 5 which didn’t even need to exist.
I didn't enjoy Halo 5 the story didn't interest me and I didn't like the direction they took, but 343 genuinely did put alot of effort into making it and I can respect them for that
Gameplay was great and I loved the helmet overlays and ADS, just the story was straight garbage and the ad campaign was very very misleading, borderlining on fraud.
I don't hate Halo 5. It's not a perfect game, but the way some fans fervently hate the game seems a bit childish, imo.
I actually liked some of its ideas and lvls. The Guardian's design are really cool and after we saw what they did in Infinite, I like them even more. I also liked the idea of Cortana going full Mendicant Bias.
For the love of god I just want it to be put into the MCC or just ported to PC so I can play the campaign!
I just got done playing the whole franchise in chronological order, and Halo 5 was honestly fun to play. I like how they turned up Hunters to a new level, with creepy vibes. I didn't like how the character models are rendered at 30fps, but I suppose it was worth it at the time. I think much could have been forgiven if Buck and the characters from ODST had been the members of Osiris. I wasn't a fan of them portraying Spartans as dancing through the battlefield - a little too anime-ish for my liking in Halo.
Got more superhero vibes off that bit than anime.
Assuming you never read the books, huh. Spartans are badically superheroes.
@@TrojanGamer10 I have not, but I don't disagree. It's more the way it was choreographed, like the beginning of Age of Ultron. Just not as grounded as I might have preferred (relative to it's predecessors in the video game space).
My biggest gripe with Halo 5 is how the story basically requires you to read and watch hours of external lore material in order to understand basic plot points and even then it felt rushed, under developed, and nonsensical at times. They did this a little in Halo 4 but they doubled down HARD with Halo 5. Also the only reason Team Osiris and Blue Team are in the game is to satisfy the 4 player co-op because they have literally zero character development. There are some cool moments especially with The Covenant/Swords of Sanghelios War but not much else. Also Spartan Locke had a lot of potential but he just blows...
If they took out Osiris and Blue Team and just simplified the story to Locke vs Master Chief (LIKE THE ADS PROMISED) then I think they could have had a potentially better story.
Blame microsoft, not 343. Many of these complaints came from microsoft fearing the fans wouldnt like exactly what we have been saying we wanted since this game came out. Basically 343 had it right and microsoft made them change the story
Halo infinite took this to level 11
@@manz7860 not really but ok
I've played all the Halo games and I have no idea what's going on in the story. Halo 5 had repetitive boss battles and fun Multiplayer. Unpopular opinion, I had fun playing Halo 5
I changed my opinion on it after I played Halo Infinite. I don't hate it anymore. I don't love it necessarily either, but I don't think it deserves to be written off.
Halo infinite is so bad.
@@manz7860
Seriously.
@@manz7860 no
@@allanrst0485 worst halo ever.
I gotta say I love your content Matty. Keep it up homie. I didn’t mind the the campaign so much, I liked where they took it. What I didn’t like was how they picked it back up in Infinite. Every plot point that was made in halo5 was pretty much resolved off screen by the time we start Infinite. Which is a huge problem for me. The Cortana bad guy thing, I thought was awesome and would hav been nice to see it play out. Not just a bunch for recorded logs that you hav to find or some annoying flashback/memory scenes. I wanted to deal with it first hand. Don’t know if I can forgive 343 for that choice that was made.
TBF the Created are still a thing; the only part of the faction they did away with was Cortana herself, and even then it was to advance the Chief becoming human story arc that was started in Halo 4 and put on ice on 5. Blue Team and Osiris are also around, but quite literally MIA due to the Banished ambush (which serves as a beliveable way to sideline a large chunk of the cast until 343's ready to reintroduce them. I think it's safe to say that all roads end at Zeta Halo, and that 343 want to use Zeta Halo (an interesting location in its own right, before you even factor in the deep lore) as a central plot device to converge many of their different narratives. The Created, Blue team, the Flood, the Banished, ONI, Osiris, the Precursers, the Endless, Alpha-Nine; if Infinite follows through on being a decade-long platform (which also means a decade of stories to tell), then there's no shortage of stories they could tell revolving around Zeta Halo and a seemingly endless struggle for control occuring on its surface.
@@Spartan-kj8bq Blue Team and Osiris are on OPERATION: BREAKER TRIP; they werent on the Infinity when The Banished attacked
Salutations Mr Matty and a Happy New Year!! - Master Chief
Halo 5 had amazing multiplayer. So much fun. Waayyyyy better than 4
Matty I used to watch you while the hype for Fallout 4 was strong. Glad to see you on the grind and better than ever after all these years
I played Halo 5 for the 1st time a year ago. I thought the game was awesome! I loved the combat which was fast and exciting with the iron sights on all the weapons. The cutscenes and environments looked amazing and I was ok with the story since Halo was always a little hard for me to follow to begin with. This was the Halo experience that I wanted since Halo 2.
Heresy!!!
Halo 5 was my first Halo, so I kinda liked it, then I played the others and I still really liked it. The story did feel a bit ehhhh, but the gameplay was good, and the enemies were awesome.
Completely agree with all points I think alot of the hate from campaign also deals with the fact that it didn't have couch co-op. I recently played online co-op with my son in the same house and it made the campaign more enjoyable.
While the absence of couch co cop sucks for some. The 60fps on that hardware is well worth it.
Besides. Most of us are adults with our own set ups.
Halo 5 still has the best MP until infinite expands options. I desperately miss thrusting as well.
Even though I think Infinite has better gameplay and campaign, I have found myself going back to Halo 5 after barely playing the game in the past. I've gone from rank seven to nineteen in two days. I went back to Halo 5, because for what it lacks in gameplay (which is still very fun btw, just a little off from classic Halo) it makes up for in content. And it also has a semi-competent progression system, and something to grind for. I think that score based XP would instantly make Infinite 50x more replayable. A lot of people also say that Halo 5 doesn't feel like Halo. I disagree. Yes, it's not exactly like it, but it still has all the basic Halo gameplay elements: fair starts, power weapons, heavy grenade usage, precision weapon meta, fun and viable sandbox, community features, and a progression system. Even though I love Infinite, I'm getting much more enjoyment out of Halo 5 right now. Also, Heroic and Mythic Warzone Firefight modes are an absolute blast, and you can find matches for them very quickly. It's also more fair with the req packs, because it's all PVE. I also would love to see Warzone Firefight in Infinite. Also, Mythic Firefight only on weekends I really like. It's similar to the double XP weekends from Halo 3, because it gives a ton more XP than Heroic WFF. Again, I really hope that we can get all these things in Infinite.
The multiplayer was fun af
I thought it was ok not too bad
Happy new year almost 2022! mr Matty plays !
I remember the Audio logs podcasts they did before this game came out it made me so hyped and non of the content from that or the trailers was ever used it was the biggest fault imo
I did like the thrust in halo 5 you felt powerful and fast but the thrust in infinite isn't as useful i prefer the grapple
I'm currently in the middle of playing H5. I started last month with Halo CE for the first time ever other than a few H3 multiplayer matches I played in the past with a friend (sniper 1v1s).
I hated Halo CE's gameplay and repetitive levels, but a friend of mine that went through all of them recently told me to keep at it, so I went to Halo 2 and enjoyed it a lot more because it was more streamlined, but the story left me confused (the cutscenes of the remaster were banging tho, presentation was just nailing it across the board). Halo 3 felt too short, and actually a bit of a stepback from Halo 2. Then I played Reach, and loved it, at that point it was my favorite game in the series.
I then played Halo 4, with quite low expectations because everyone and their mother had told me how bad it was. And I really ended up loving Halo 4. Surprisingly, it's my favorite story-wise (closely followed by Reach), because it actually made Master Chief and Cortana have personalities, they were likeable and their goals were understandable.
And so far, I've been enjoying 5 as well. I have been a bit confused as it doesn't really feel connected to Halo 4 so far, I feel like there's a game missing in between, so from that end I can understand people's gripes. But taking the story as-is, I enjoy it so far.
Halo 4 was not hated though, I think you are getting it confused with halo 5 now
@@Noktarash1990 not at all. Halo 4 was disliked quite a bit even to this day for what they did with the forerunners. Halo 5 was hated more, absolutely, but having asked plenty of Halo fans what they think of the series and telling them I liked 4 the most, the reactions themselves don’t lie.
play Halo 4 Spartan Ops; it continues 4 months after Halo 4's ending
Such a bummer that Infinite has really great gameplay but is basically bare bones when it comes to content...Imagine if this game launched with everything Halo 3 and Halo Reach launched with? But no we have 20 dollar armor skins. I hate modern gaming man.
I didn't hate it, but I can understand some of the complaints I've come across. With or without references to the expanded universe, there were DEFINITELY things that could've been fleshed out more effectively. Chief doing a complete 180 that quickly in regards to Cortana definitely doesn't make sense. Even though the process was different, aren't Spartan 4's still supersoldiers? It feels like people are overthinking the fight between Chief and Locke.
If you were even a little bit into the lore you would understand why that fight made no sense, Spartan 2s are on a whole other level from 4s and the books make that distinction, but the game just ignores it for a horribly choreographed fight.
@@kingdomkey2262I'm sorry I only have time to play the games.
It was fun on multiplayer, never really liked the campaign
Back when I first saw the Locke and Chief fight, I fully expected Locke to use some sort of boost to give himself at least a chance against Chief but no, they just fight normally and it's baffling to see this random Oni guy holding his own against THE Master Chief. Oh, and the fact that Blue Team doesn't just tower over Locke's team in terms of physicality is just embarrassing.
Matty, thanks for sharing your thoughts on Halo 5.
MP and Warzone was honestly solid, one of the best imo.
Multiplayer was great.. 5 years after the release. Campaign now that I look back was not very fun whatsoever.
Making Cortana the enemy was the biggest mistake narratively they could make. It only emphasized how much you failed in Halo 4 trying to save her
First Halo game I sold instantly. Went back to play the story through Gamepass a few months ago. Boy does it still suck. Most memorable levels were the Sanghelios missions. Should have been Chief meeting up with Arbiter instead of Locke
First real comment lol
Reading through all this “omg halo 5 wasn’t that bad” nonsense is just maddening lol
Fighting the Guardian/Warden an excessive amount murdered any momentum this game had.
I would say the one thing you over looked in multiplayer was at launch halo 5 multiplayer was awful. No casual Playlist. Every Playlist was ranked. And I enjoy playing ranked. But not being able to play social Playlist with friends was a terrible decision
Im happy to finally hear some praise towards the campaigns brighter moments, because there are some! Everyone straight trashes this game and honestly i really enjoyed multiplayer overall while enjoying some bits in campaign, though id still say its on the bottom end of the campaigns in the franchise
I've played each halo, halo 2 was the peak even though it was the most bugged game. This halo us fun the multi-player and the campaign is something new. However the sheer amount of problems this infinite game has is unacceptable, I'd almost wanna contact 343 and make them pay me instead of the other way around ffs.
It's incredible how bungie managed to crank out halo 2 the way they did....AND they pretty much kicked off xbox live for Microsoft.....nearly flawlessly from what I remember.
Infinite can't even get its menus to load up when the game boots.
My only issue with halo 5 multiplayer was the maps were all forge made and I didn’t care for that at all. So I only played warzone
I enjoyed the mulitplayer co-op it is fantastic! And the online multiplayer it's Just the Storyline fell flat, I think Spartan Locke is a brilliant character he should be a DLC character like In hivebusters so should the arbitrator blue team with your created character and The shock troopers.
Supposedly Locke was killed somewhere between 5 & Infinite. There's a propaganda tower broadcast random encounter after beating Infinite on Legendary where a Grunt is talking about a Chieftan making work of Locke and wearing his helmet as a shoulder pad for a trophy. People are mixed on what exactly this means tho. I personally think he's somewhere beaten and battered on Zeta Halo and we will be seeing him in a later expansion but alot of people take this as him being dead so who knows.
@@_dmfd I agree
The campaign was incredibly lackluster for me. But I actually so many great memories playing Warzone firefight. It was such a fun mode. I really hope they bring it into infinite, with some tweaks as you said.
Hunt the truth was some AMAZING writing! Getting none of that in halo 5 was my biggest issue.
2:47 Tim Longo ,The creative director of Halo 5, actually worked on republic commando.
I only finished halo reach and halo 5 because i only keep playing what i enjoy
Halo 4: Underrated
Halo 5: Terrible
Infinite: Way Overrated
It's not overrated it's mucho better than halo 4 and 5
I think something that this video doesn’t emphasize enough is that the Halo 5 multiplayer you play now is not what was there at launch. So even though I like Halo 5’s multiplayer, I will always think about how there wasn’t even classic btb at launch.
Didn't have btb but did have warzone which was a spiritual successor to it.
Btb only took like 2 months to come out. By comparision halo infinite has almost been out for two months and not a single content drop.
Not sure if I heard you wrong but that part with arbiter where you said he was leading the charge and it was a covenant civil war sounds wrong to me because Arbiter stopped being a part of the covenant by the end of halo 2, so it was more of a elites vs covenant elites, not covenant elites vs covenant elites
I totally agree with you. I honestly think people over react about this game way too much or are overly negative about the game because how under cooked the campaign was and how the monetization system was. In all honesty now days with videogames, we'll get some sort of monetization either way no matter how much we hate it unfortunately ever since what was it 2015 or something like that videogames did it all over the place so it isn't so surprising that Halo wanted a piece of that cake
I’m new to Xbox, and have played through every main Halo game this past year. As a noob to the series, I did not think Halo 5 was nearly as bad as everyone told me it was going to be. While it not on the level of the Bungie games, I feel like it was a big step forward from 4 on every front except for the story. I had fun playing the campaign. A solid 7/10 game.
Hey Matty I'm not trying to be rude but I can sort of tell that this kind of video isn't your usual format. If I had some feedback for you I'd definitely say your script could use a bit or work. I feel as if the pacing of the video would benefit if you had specific sections dedicated to specific topics as opposed to the scattered thoughts represented in this video. Some parts really dragged on as it seemed like you had trouble vocalizing what you were trying to say before skipping to another topic entirely. Again, I'm a fan of your videos and always happy to support! Just thought I'd offer a bit of feedback.
I actually didn't play Halo 5 until spring 2021 i do remember some of my buddy's that had xbox at that time being disappointed because of similar points made in this video also that there wasn't split screen campaign. I remember the marketing at that time almost made it seem like there would be like a spartan boss fight but that didn't happen and was a bummer. This game is flawed but fun. I can see why people in 2015 were so hard on this game when you look at how Halo CE- Reach were master peaces in their time the bar was set so high.
The only thing I remember about it was that there was no split screen co-op.
Here’s the thing about Halo 5. 343i had an interesting concept. It was clear they had a vision in mind when the trailers released. The execution however, was to put it bluntly, shit.
i enjoyed the MP alot but the campaign did take alot of the wind out of the will to play the game ngl. plus the art style wasn't too great but the MP was really fun besides most of customization being chance based and locked behind gambling packs that you could earn but took pretty long to earn.
The main issue with H5 is the campaign.
Namely...three factors.
First, it was a Halo spin off game masquerading as a main title. MC was not the main character...Locke was. It wasn't even a co-star a la Arbiter. This was Lockes game.
Second, the marketing of the game was highly misleading
Third....too much lore set in the books and not the games. That creates a HUGE disconnect in the story. Not to mention so many concepts underdeveloped or sidelined.
On your first point, in halo 2 you play as arbiter/covenant half the time. And it's probably the most celebrated campaign of the 3. But I guess that makes halo 2 a spinoff in your eyes.
4 and 5 really aren’t that terrible. They’re just vastly inferior to what came before in the series.
Played the campaign 2.5 times. Once for the story, once for audio logs, and .5 for achiements and got bored. Warzone firefight was ok, but not my jam.
I loved Halo 5 and the multiplayer. I was pissed when MCC came out because the whole fan base went there. Also 343 stopped developing the multiplayer and what could have been.
I think the biggest mistake they made was even having Locke and his team to begin with. Instead they could've spent more time establishing the backstory for Blue Team and show the audience how they are the closest thing Chief has to having family members because they have through so much together through Spartan training, this can allow people that don't know much about Blue Team to catch up. Wasted potential.
The first time I played halo 5 I didn’t have any issues with it once I heard alota people dissing it I still liked it and didn’t really care about others opinions and my thoughts still remain the same,with halo 4 the only thing that aggravated me like forreal was never enough ammo lol but that’s just me I guess I just love halo. Ever since my uncle let me play combat evolved when I was like 6 er 7 I’ve been hooked idk what it was really I just have and I’m glad I am still.
This is one of the best reviews of Halo 5 I have seen
I really love Halo 5. Not the best story, I can tell you that. But I honestly regard it as my top 5 Halo games.
Yes. That being said those cut scenes were amazing at the beginning.
All the loot box stuff and cards for MP really turned me off from the game. I think I played it a couple of months and never played it again. The Warzone mode felt hokey to me.
I hated it. I bought it for more split screen with my wife & bros cuz we're still prefer couch play. 5 is the first Halo that removed split screen and I didn't think that staple would be removed especially with a built in squad at your back.
I hated the "missions" where you piddle around talking to folks.. bro.. that is NOT Halo!
I think Chief has only 3 missions while we play the new guy with too many led lights on his armor like we're 12 or sum'n. Having sprint, dash, hover, ground pound and a charge melee was too many abilities at once that didn't make it feel Halo. I still prefer Reach where you had to choose to sprint or take a single armor ability. It feels a lot more like Halo that way.
I was really vibing with this review until you justified 343s monetization of Infinite because "its free"
It’s bad. I replayed the entire campaign and played multiplayer before Infinite came out. It’s bad
I really liked H5. I don’t think it was as bad as everyone else thought. It wasn’t perfect but it was solid. Missteps for sure as you point out very well. Still waiting for the day when games rival the best and tightest narratives found in literature and film.
It’s crazy that the locations and environments of Halo 5 were actually more interesting than Halo Infinite.
I really don't like the story 343 is running with in Halo, and 5 was particularly bad. That said, it might actually be better than Infinite's barely existing half finished "story", and it actually had missions I remember. After playing Infinite twice now, I barely remember any of the missions and it feels like it's missing the most basic narrative devices. It nails the feel and gameplay loop, but everything else is just.... Blah.
I hope this opinion becomes more common soon, I was so disappointed by Infinite's story
Gameplay was fine
Story was trash
I just played through halo mcc and halo 5 and I don't get the hate. I loved the story of them all and the gameplay. I had fun.
The story was dogshit
Halo 5 was never a bad game, just not a good Halo game.
I didn't read the books, still understood everything in Halo 5 story
No bro stop shilling for 343 right of the bat. That shit feels nothing like halo 2.
7:20 chief shouldn't have even had to realize cortana was bad at all. He should've known she was bad almost immediately. H5 made chief into a dumb schizophrenic and had like 4 different ideas all going different directions and none of them ever actually went anywhere
What are you even talking about? He questions and argues with Cortana all throughout Blue Team's last mission in the campaign. Warden Eternal asks if he'll join her or defend humanity and he says "Cortana already knows the answer" and obviously he's saying he's not with Cortana
I played the sh*t out of the multiplayer and it was great.
Campaign was terrible. 3/10
Though I disagreed with the changes made in 5’s multiplayer in the terms of a traditional halo experience… It was still a very fun first person shooter, have over 100 days in it. solid 8/10.
Imo the biggest problem of Halo 5's campaign was that Locke and chief could have taken a sick day and all of the events of the game would have happened anyways (outside of maybe sanghelios). Chief and Locke don't succeed in changing any of the major plot points, and it's frustrating to play something where you make no impact on the world overall.
Chief realizes that Cortana is bad in game, not in a cutscene, but during a mission. It doesn't happen off-screen
I don’t know if this game is aging super well, but my hatred for it has definitely lessened over time.
I likes linear halo games more, change my mind.
But grappling from tree to tree as a human tank can be fun too.
Halo 5 multiplayer is so underrated. I think people hated it because of warzone/battlepacks, and less content being there at launch. Which is all valid, but I wish people realized at its core as in arena shooter it was pretty great. Forge was also great when it eventually came out
I haven’t watched this yet but my answer is meh. The campaign is alright I personally liked how they did things it was different and I liked it. Same with the multiplayer the multiplayer was a TON of fun but I am a movement freak and love movement in games which halo added a LOT such as the ground pound the super sprint the b to dodge the slight flying mechanic while aiming gosh it felt like the multiplayer was so fresh I loved it. Warzone was fun minus the packs that’s BS get rid of those. But overall I really love halo 5 it was a great game. Not the best halo game tho.
I strongly disagree. I used to think Halo 5 was a mess of story, I don't think that anymore. The first half of the game fits solidly into Halo 4's, and the second half just lacked a bit of exposition.
I never finished Halo 5's campaign for obvious reasons but I enjoyed the multiplayer a lot more than infinite's.