Series 60 number one killer. Detroit 60 series common problem. S60 issues/How to save diesel engine
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Series 60 number one killer. Detroit 60 series common problem. S60 issues/How to save diesel engine
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972-225-3017
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Dallas TX 75241
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My homeboy Larry bought a Kenworth with the 12.7 some years back and after about a year it started blowing steam out the exhaust. Yeah - liner perforation. 15K worth of overhaul later and he’s back on the road.
Great video. Just subscribed!
Who did the inframe for 15k is it anywhere near Texas
Need an over haul on my engine too know a good place to
Coolant kills more engines than oil. Great video. Seen it if a JD as well. 7700 hrs and kits looked perfect due to oil changes. No coolant maintenance led to pin holes in the sleeves for a premature rebuild. Fluids are not cheap but a lot cheaper than engine parts. Dump them frequently.
Thank you for your input. 💪🏼🚛
I just disagree with wasting money on changing to ones that test fine as long as everything looks good on the test there is no need to change things out.
Cood you add a little bakin soda in tha coolant to nutralize tha acid?
@@hillbillybeerdranker6678 perhaps
@@rodchandlerii6922 new coolant is much less than an inframe
Also like the fact you brought up the bullgear! Most mechanics don't speak on that nor bring it up!
It's very important , most of series 60 if you notice a rough or loud noise under load its most likely the bullgear and the bearing
I own one 60,really appreciate tips
Great info. This is one engine I don’t work on very often. Thanks for sharing the common failures
love it when you share all this info about the different engines Thanks a bunch!
Indeed; coolant neglect destroys engines. I pulled the oil pan on a 3406 Cat and noticed what I thought was a spider web strung across a cylinder, and I thought "how did a spider get into the crankcase of an engine that was just running yesterday?" before I notice the water dripping from the bottom of the liner onto the shop floor. Cavitation holes on all liners, ant one had poked through, but dozens were close to poking through. I had found the reason for the engine oil milkshake.
Coolant maintenance is essential for engine longevity
Have one tore down rite now "Detroit Reman" 300k has had 2 head gaskets put on it in a year . Has had repair counterbores installed and #3 #4 leak compression past the linner flange pressurising the jacket all linners are +2 low
If this is how reman works
Ill just build my own
Good video by the way 👌
Great video, I recently had my truck eating a gallon of coolant a day, but the warning signs were there before that happened. Pay attention to your truck, especially coolant and oil, because stuff going in the wrong place will cause major issues later.
Excellent Knowledge and very Good communication skills. We do appreciate the time you spend on the videos. Congratulations on the New Shop
Excellent video. I recently had Velocity Truck Center in Lexington,KY give me a $9k quote for a $3k repair. Then lie and send fake photos. Unbelievable.
check for voltage in coolant also. Electrolysis.
i had one with 12 vdc from coolant to negative battery.
eats out liners metal etc.
how u check that ?
@@zaidchalabi1599 Put positive lead of a digital voltmeter set on DC milla volts in coolant and negative on ground battery.
Should be less than 500 mv or electrolysis occurs.
We check marine and gen sets.
Coolant should not become a battery electrolyte .
Thank you for your input. 👍
Thank you learned alot from this video .
Not telling you how to do your job please remind people to change your water filter on the regular and if your Detroit don’t have one by all means add one!!! Great video
And here lots of people run around trying to find the least-used, lowest mileage engine they can find- when it's probably the worst indicator of condition. Thanks for the info!
We are happy to help. Thanks for watching.
Will you go over the different rebuild kit for the Detroit 12.7? Like the OEM Detroit or interstate McBee, the alliance kit
We alway recommend OEM rebuild kit due to the amount of time it takes to rebuild. It is best not to chance a failure form a aftermarket rebuild kit.
And don't forget Agkits they sell complete overhaul kits also.
Thank you
You're welcome
I like your power probe husky toolbox. Checking for power, ground and shorts on the roll 😄
I won a trip with my wife to go to Waco and go to magnolia silos. Thought about stopping by there. I have a shop in north Carolina. I thought about doing videos myself but never take the time. I just watch yours, good job guys. Not many people look out for there customers and inform them of issues that could occur. Always good to look out for your customers
Thanks for watching.
Great info!!!! Had no idea!!!!!
Glad it was helpful!
Cavitation is mainly caused by electrolysis. Make sure both the block and radiator are properly grounded
Why would you replace the coolant if everything is testing good and it looks good that in my opinion is an antiquated outdated ideal from the past. Keep an eye on your stuff and as long as it looks good keep using it
Good knowledge Adam ,
But this comes with pretty much any engine , Like you say you definitely have to keep up on your equipment or you got a bunch of problems
Exactly 💯. They are all bare inside)
Thank you for your input and that is a great point. 👌
Thanks for wonderful video. I Just wanted to see what work we don’t be able to do if we rebuild it. Could you tell this please?
Actually, you can pull the oil cooler hard line and shove a camera up there and inspect it. I've done that several times for customers.
Thanks for the info. The oil line may be a bit corroded and break when removed. Again thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much for this restricted and clear explanation. I am a new subscriber to your channel. I would like to ask if the channel content includes lessons in the process of diagnosis, programming, discovering frequent faults in heavy trucks, and other electronic matters in trucks.
Thanks bro!
What happens when the corrosion damage between the liners on top of the deck, can I still repair the engine or it has to go to machine shop? I seen some inserts on other people block but who does the job?
Thank for sharing your experience and time , great work
Hey love the video. I have a 94 11.1 L series 60.
What coolant do you recommend then to try and combat this corrosion.
Also any additives to oil to help clean out that corrosion???
Most name brand 50/50 premix red extended life coolants are approved.
Can you please show a video on how to do the stainless steel injector cup removal and installation without removing the cylinder head? I have a 2005 Coluumbia that has a DDEC V with stainless steel cups and one failed. I am very mechanical, inclined, and rebuilt 60 Series, but I have never done cups before. Thanks
Excellent video! Please do a video of a cummins N14
You said 1 a year replacing coolant but how many miles is that? I dont drive year round...
Thanks for your videos! You are one of the best on your profession.
Do you have any videos on problems/ issues + pricing; since while is really good to know the possible issues to look for before buy a Semi, would be nice to know the price to fix of the issue that we find. Of course approximated price since I know that price very from shop to shop but as I said Approximated prices. Thanks!
Thanks for this information
Hi guys...pls help me out...can a faulty ECM cause the fan to run non stop and also what could be the cause of blackish smoke when Jakes are on???
Learn something new everyday! Thanks Adam keep doing your thing 👌🏽
Wooow this was very helpful, but all in all, Detroit s60 is a good motor all away around !
Great video, Thank You!
Adam, I truly appreciate this info you provided
You missed the biggest problem into 60 series, flywheel housing leaking oil plus use a good name brand antifreeze made for Diesel engines that is a 50/50 mixture only
Is there a way to tell the difference between the 12.7 and the 14 liter???
Gracias por la información 👍, saludos desde sudamerica Chile 🇨🇱
I dont understand how external corrosion on the engine or radiator can have anything to do with whats going on internal? Road salt makes everything corrode, copper radiators corrode even faster.. mine was disintegrating and fins were crumbling but inside was like new. Also the inside of engine is not exposed to anything on the outside so they are not even related. It can look like hell on the outside and look new on the inside... mine does. Road salt kills everything on the outside but cant get inside the engine.
Thank you for sharing. I am explaining that the signs of excessive corrosion can indicate low maintenance for owners looking to purchase a used semi truck.
Another good info video, Thank You. So what do you recommend for a flushing chemical? In gas and small diesel engines I've used Lubegard flush. Another product I have used is called Rydlime this was on larger diesel engines.
Hello, we use flushers exclusively for the process of flushing systems. Thank you for watching.
Best motor built 12.7 60 series.
Good engine but it’s not as powerful as the modern ones
Hey am working on a Cummins M11 330E we are having trouble the engine is losing oil pressure and shuts off we change the oil pressure sensor can it be the oil pump
I recommend using a manual pressure gauge to verify low oil pressure readings.
👋 Hi Adam, hi guys. I would highly appreciate if You all could advise which engine is the best for Non CDL Freightliner M2 106 (26 foot , 26k gvwr): new Cummins ISB6,7 or Cummins ISL9 or DD8 ?
May be you could make a Video comparison of that engines and theirs issues, the most interesting is to get knowledge regarding issues/problems in order to be ready once faced ? There is no such kind of information, Adam, you would be the very first👍 Thank you for your Videos and Channel in General , You are awesome 👏 wish you to get as many subscribers as possible✌️
Cummins are solid engines. The 6.7 is a good non-CDL engine. The Cummins 6.7 engine are not in the Class 8 semis
@TAT Express Inc. What coolant is best coolant to put in a 12.7? How many Gallons of coolant do you need to refill after flushing out the system?
Question for u , I got oil in the coolant and coolant in the oil pan . There is no pressure in the coolant tank ( more then normal )
I've always recommended water anodes.
thanks for the info but I have a question for you I have a series 60 and I have transmission oil coming out of my starter and I think that the scavenger pump is not working or the torque converter is cracked do you have any suggestions on if it's not that what it mite be also can you tell me exactly where the scavenger pump is
I have the Detroit 14L and it's leaking oil from up top/front, running down the right side of the engine. It's gotten worse and I'm not sure where it's coming from. I've verified It's not the valve cover. , What else could it be
Why not just change over to Extended life Red coolant?
Great advice. Ensure to check with test strips as well.
I have a 99 mci bus with a d60 and I need to flush and refill the coolant as well as replace the filter. Do you have a video or any info that you can send my way? IE: flush, fil, burp, top off
Are you guys in the market for a DDEC 4 engine side wiring harness?
I bought one a few years ago, ending up selling the truck.
I've got it posted up on San Antonio Craigslist.
Thanks
0 corrosion on a 99 S60 but a fuck ton of oil on the block that keeps it well greased lol
We recommend repairing any oil or fuel leaks that is falling on the highway. This is a FMCSA violation and will cause safety violation on the carrier’s safety score trigging a safety audit.
@@TATEXPRESSINC violation if it's dripping
So, how often to change coolant? Once a year or once a year? ))
Yes we recommend once a year
I got 1995 peterbilt Detroit 12/7 978,000 miles I need to start changing parts
What about changing coolant filters
How often ?
Coolant filters are recommended to change once per year. Usually during coolant interval service . Coolant strip testers are very useful
The coolant filter can become seized once corrosions has built around the housing.
I heard that a coolant filter should be changed every 20k mi like a fuel filter. They're cheap.
Mane I done changed the radiator, thermostat, coolant flush, turbocharger cooler, fan clutch, and it’s still running a lil hot but not anything like before.
Oil cooler could be plugged on water side
I just had my engine overhauled 12.7 pre emissions but the shop never told me any recommendations for oil and im about to do my first oil change tomorrow as well as the fan clucth but I think I'm going to have them replace the hub as well while they're in there. I do have some corrosion but it's not as bad as the engine in the video but when I bought the truck a little over a year ago it had almost an inch of grease caked onto the block and I've been scraping it off and cleaning it religiously so can I just scotch brite it and paint it to protect it..? Even my new head already has surface rust forming towards the back im assuming from water coming down off the window. Its it a freightliner classic.. any info would be greatly appreciated.
What's your average quote for an out of frame like that?
Does anybody rebuild the DD's with all these issues fixed so they won't happen again?
Or are they just rebuilt with the same parts that are destined to fail in the same amount of time?
It's electrolysis it happens when coolant is running through the engine it produces static electricity and it causes cavitation CATs are bad about it to, they make additives you can run in your coolant to help cut down on it but they say this coolant your supposed to run now already has it
I use straight red in my detroit my mechanic says no worries after that should I worry
Can you make a video on the N14 please
That sounds like a good plan
Was there ever a 14 liter made with out egr cooler or emissions before 2003
Yes the army ran a lot of 14 leader Detroit non-EGR
Any 14L prior to 2004 is pre-emissions.
Yes. There were 14L 60 Series Detroit engines built without EGR prior to 2004 for on highway vehicles. They were 550 horse with 1850 torque. It was the same block as the 12.7 just had a different crank and rod.
So should a s60 use sca or oat coolant?
Keep up the good content boss man. 👍👍
what u guys charge for good overhaul with injectors , head bullgear etc
You may call us at 972-225-3017 to schedule an appointment.
Boiler plate information for ALL diesel engines.
Hey...where is the air governor located on a 2021 freight liner cascadia with Detroit motor.
You probably found it mounted on the air dryer itself.
You never answered the question: Could corrosion and cavitation destroy the engine to wear it CANNOT be rebuilt!?
it’s technically an MTU now ✌🏻
Hello,can this engine compatible in a Peterbilt 1990. 😎
What’s price ranges to overhaul one?
cylinder wall cavitation......use nàlcool..
Do a video on the electrical nightmares they are lol especially the fan clutch faults
Great topic, yes any electrical problem can be a nightmare, but on an older model corrosion can also enter the electrical system.
What's you price on a half engine reparTion?
Also if You're buying a truck with any engine please buy yourself a combustion leak tester and do it it only takes 5 minutes
Mines tuned for 500hp and 1450T can I get more torque?
yes. my ddec 4 has been retuned to 550/2050.
Coolant changes never hurt anything.
I hate that lifetime comment people make.
I have serie 60 12.7 year 1991 DDEXl
Prevent maintenance 🙏👊👊👍
Wouldn't it be smarter to just get one completely rebuilt and or but one new from Detroit?
So are these a al mechanical engine?
Do you guys have Detroit series 60 for sale?
I really don't like and subscribe to any person's you tube till after watching a few to see if the content is what I'm looking for. 🤔
Do some c15 videos
Install a water conditioner
REAL MEN CHECK COOLANT WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING.
Checking the coolant while hot may result in the coolant being pushed out and possibly burning.
@@TATEXPRESSINC NO PAIN NO GAIN.
When you are making a video, please do not repeat yourself! You have done it zo many times in this video, that is my biggest take away, not what are some of the things to look out for.
If the people who watch your videos miss something, they can replay a portion, or if they do something wrong or think something wrong and blame you, you have the video to back you up.
You cannot hold some persons hands and lose everyone else. Each person needs to be responsible for themselves.
Thank you
Thanks you for your feedback and thank you for watching. 👍
Detroit diesel is junk
Bullshit 😅
Those test strips are not to be used with red extended life antifreeze.
My truck was building presure on coolant system..
Should off took it to
TAT express 🤦♂️
Instead took it to redneck diesel
And got bamboozled
Truck dint last 30k miles
Put me out of business
They rape me
39k for a overhaul on a x15
Wow that’s terrible bro! Todd is something else that’s for sure…