on no, that 2 on the third row at 11:00 seeing you pencil another 2! This UI makes it so hard when you're used to SudokuPad, I have probably made many mistakes alike when solving these Edit: Glad you saw it right away!
I got to the same penciled area, and had no idea what to do. I took a pair and guessed, hit a point where there were two 3's in the same row. Went back to the point of the penciled, took my guess, did the opposite of the pairing, and chained from there, and Solved.
I found this quite straightforward and wondered why this one took you so long, then I saw that you missed that c8 upper means 4 is placed in r1c8, no x-wing logic required.
1’21 best, 1’59 first segment based, no notes Howdy. Good to see you. As usual, you kept calm when stuck and cycled through options. Your solve was overcomplicated by mis-scanning though. No escalated logic needed in this puzzle, regardless of name. Details below. - about 267 First 8x8 of the week. Two partial baselines, three rare digit solves (8s, 7s, 2s), and it’s plonking time. Something like that anyways. - your solve 6:10 you get to the other given baseline, c7. My first three plays were c5 upper, r1 baseline, c7 baseline. 6:37 this is a position I reached Above here our differences are stylistic. I think mine is more efficient and generates less opportunities for error. But it’s style. Below here is more problematic in terms of your solve. From here, you miss that the west side 2s resolve. c4r4 only 2 in c4 c2r6 only 2 in c2 c3r5 only 2 in c3 This leads directly to c3 resolves r6 left resolves r4 left resolves c1 resolves and with those goes the rest. 7:46 you are free range scanning and go along c4, not catching the 2 restriction. 8:20 or so you start bivalue notes. I get it. It’s the soundest way to ensure note integrity and make progress. The particular leap you need (2 in c4 upper) though won’t be easily caught by that style of notes. 9:44 you got it. c3 now completes if you see c3r5 -> 2 c3r4 -> 4 etc 11:30 you place the 4 on r3. That limits 4 on c8 upper to c8r1, resolving r1 and c4 upper. And after that point, it’s just scan and plonk. If you see it. Not scanning the 4 on c8 led to you adding notes and logic that are not needed. 13:00 you pencil c8 upper, but miss the only 4. Note blindness. It’s very common for what it’s worth. I was playing through an experienced person’s solve with them this weekend. Same exact thing. They just didn’t notice that the notes told them the naked single was there. If they’d swept the 2s (or 4s or whatever) left and right though, it’s obvious. 13:30 well, at least it meets some of the definition of “X-wing” from sudoku. It’s still simple pigeonhole logic, older than Star Wars. Regardless of the name and definition, procedurally there’s an error. The 3 from c8r4 would also be “eliminated”. This is the reason your second escalated logic did not resolve that NE quarter. 14:50 another one. This one actually resolves the puzzle (as c8r1 still would without any escalation) if you scanned that c2 resolves after the 4 on c2r8 is placed. 16:00 you start considering even more escalated logic shoehorned from sudoku. You just need a proper rescan. 16:46 no, the pigeonhole logic that sudoku players call “x-wing” is not needed in this puzzle at all. You just never adequately scanned c8, even after you pencil marked it. Note blindness. Thanks again for posting. First runs are always a mixed bag. Especially if they run long.
This is the first video of yours I've watched, and the first time I've played a One Up puzzle. 9:49 for me. This was kind of a painful video to watch. Your reluctance to pencil mark wasted a lot of time in the middle of the video, then you failed to notice a lot of basic sudoku once you did pencil mark. The 4 in the top right corner at the 13:00 mark was the biggest, you didn't need any of the x-wing discussion if you'd just spotted the 1-2-3 triple you created.
I hope you liked One Up. That’s not a bad time at all for a first timer using notes. Rangsk had an off day. He’s really quite a good teacher, especially in the sudoku style. As for notes, to each their own. One Up is generally faster without notes. “xjuax” and myself might be a fruitful comparison of the two styles. The difference is larger with the larger puzzles and error/startover rate goes up as well. Due to segmentation, note overhead works different than in sudoku. And it’s not good in sudoku, hence Snyder and other styles. Segmentation also gives many different tools to speed up solutions. And it ties numbers to the puzzle in a way that shows it’s no sudoku variant even if older pigeonholing tricks found in grid puzzles still work. Anyway, I hope One Up’s differences hook you.
OneUp is probably my favourite of your series; great vids!
I prefer his NYT sudoku myself and try to watch them whenever I’m in a sudoku mood. He always brings insights and his knowledge base is vast.
The 4 on top right corner was there the whole time! 😅
I made that same mistake for a bit too
10:10 for me today. I missed that same 4 in the upper right corner too for a few minutes.
on no, that 2 on the third row at 11:00 seeing you pencil another 2! This UI makes it so hard when you're used to SudokuPad, I have probably made many mistakes alike when solving these
Edit: Glad you saw it right away!
I got to the same penciled area, and had no idea what to do. I took a pair and guessed, hit a point where there were two 3's in the same row. Went back to the point of the penciled, took my guess, did the opposite of the pairing, and chained from there, and Solved.
The 4 on top right corner was so easy to miss
I found this quite straightforward and wondered why this one took you so long, then I saw that you missed that c8 upper means 4 is placed in r1c8, no x-wing logic required.
1’21 best, 1’59 first
segment based, no notes
Howdy. Good to see you. As usual, you kept calm when stuck and cycled through options.
Your solve was overcomplicated by mis-scanning though. No escalated logic needed in this puzzle, regardless of name. Details below.
- about 267
First 8x8 of the week. Two partial baselines, three rare digit solves (8s, 7s, 2s), and it’s plonking time. Something like that anyways.
- your solve
6:10 you get to the other given baseline, c7.
My first three plays were c5 upper, r1 baseline, c7 baseline.
6:37 this is a position I reached
Above here our differences are stylistic. I think mine is more efficient and generates less opportunities for error. But it’s style.
Below here is more problematic in terms of your solve.
From here, you miss that the west side 2s resolve.
c4r4 only 2 in c4
c2r6 only 2 in c2
c3r5 only 2 in c3
This leads directly to
c3 resolves
r6 left resolves
r4 left resolves
c1 resolves
and with those goes the rest.
7:46 you are free range scanning and go along c4, not catching the 2 restriction.
8:20 or so you start bivalue notes. I get it. It’s the soundest way to ensure note integrity and make progress.
The particular leap you need (2 in c4 upper) though won’t be easily caught by that style of notes.
9:44 you got it.
c3 now completes if you see
c3r5 -> 2
c3r4 -> 4
etc
11:30 you place the 4 on r3.
That limits 4 on c8 upper to c8r1, resolving r1 and c4 upper. And after that point, it’s just scan and plonk. If you see it.
Not scanning the 4 on c8 led to you adding notes and logic that are not needed.
13:00 you pencil c8 upper, but miss the only 4.
Note blindness. It’s very common for what it’s worth. I was playing through an experienced person’s solve with them this weekend. Same exact thing. They just didn’t notice that the notes told them the naked single was there. If they’d swept the 2s (or 4s or whatever) left and right though, it’s obvious.
13:30 well, at least it meets some of the definition of “X-wing” from sudoku. It’s still simple pigeonhole logic, older than Star Wars.
Regardless of the name and definition, procedurally there’s an error. The 3 from c8r4 would also be “eliminated”. This is the reason your second escalated logic did not resolve that NE quarter.
14:50 another one.
This one actually resolves the puzzle (as c8r1 still would without any escalation) if you scanned that c2 resolves after the 4 on c2r8 is placed.
16:00 you start considering even more escalated logic shoehorned from sudoku.
You just need a proper rescan.
16:46 no, the pigeonhole logic that sudoku players call “x-wing” is not needed in this puzzle at all.
You just never adequately scanned c8, even after you pencil marked it. Note blindness.
Thanks again for posting. First runs are always a mixed bag. Especially if they run long.
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This is the first video of yours I've watched, and the first time I've played a One Up puzzle. 9:49 for me. This was kind of a painful video to watch. Your reluctance to pencil mark wasted a lot of time in the middle of the video, then you failed to notice a lot of basic sudoku once you did pencil mark. The 4 in the top right corner at the 13:00 mark was the biggest, you didn't need any of the x-wing discussion if you'd just spotted the 1-2-3 triple you created.
I hope you liked One Up. That’s not a bad time at all for a first timer using notes.
Rangsk had an off day. He’s really quite a good teacher, especially in the sudoku style.
As for notes, to each their own. One Up is generally faster without notes.
“xjuax” and myself might be a fruitful comparison of the two styles.
The difference is larger with the larger puzzles and error/startover rate goes up as well.
Due to segmentation, note overhead works different than in sudoku. And it’s not good in sudoku, hence Snyder and other styles.
Segmentation also gives many different tools to speed up solutions. And it ties numbers to the puzzle in a way that shows it’s no sudoku variant even if older pigeonholing tricks found in grid puzzles still work.
Anyway, I hope One Up’s differences hook you.