I can't believe this series is up to 47! I've lost track of how many of my tools have come from your recommendations. Thanks for all of the great videos!
I have hope for 47. I should know better, 40 now, many idols disgraced and passed, but I do feel now something good, hope it's not nothing, please come through for our son's and daughter's sakes. I'm not even American but what happens there through cultural influence has followed forth unfailingly throughout the western world. Hoping waiting wishing. Great videos, you've gotten so good at the presentation, looking back at old videos is a bit jarring even though they're really good too in comparison to other woodtubrs nowadays.
I wanted to throw you a thanks because I've had the Milescraft drill master for awhile and I never thought about screwing it to a piece of wood like you showed. Thanks for the tip! Cheers
I recently had to run out and buy the DrillMate a few weeks ago for a project my wife came up with for the need it yesterday list, and the one I had only did 90 degree drilling. Needed to drill a butt load of angled holed in 2x2's. Every time there is a cool tools video, I see something I need, or something I already have, but didn't think to use it that way. Thanks!
The drill guide is an updated (and improved) version of the old Port-Align sold at Sears in the 70’s. It was well made for its time and worked very well. I still have mine and haul it out every now and then for certain tasks. Wish I’d have seen the ruler and guide stops before I bought the big red bird’s Paolini rule, though that item is excellent.
I have one of the drill mates, and I like it, my only quip with it is that it doesn't go up and down smoothly, I have tried using paste wax, and oil (but neither has gotten rid of the non smooth movements up and down), that being said, I still love the thing. I've been thinking of 3d printing something similar, but haven't had the time to design it.
You’ve never steered me wrong, James! I’ve bought a number of cool tools on your recommendation and loved all of them. It always makes me excited for the next cool tools video!
Had to restart cause a buddy stopped in and couldn't give ya the attention ya deserve blue, and I recognize, respect and appreciate your reviews and that's why you my boy
I bought one of the Milescraft drill tools a few years ago and while it ain't perfect, it comes in real handy for drilling into pipes, or in some weird place where you need a hole and it must be perpendicular. I wonder if there is a replacement keyless chuck? That would be a real improvement! It has saved my day a few times; for example: it was a godsend when I drilled dog holes in my bench!
I keep wanting to purchase the drill mate. It's not too pricey, I'm just constantly trying to justify the cost. I have made quite a few adhoc jigs to accomplish the few times it would be handy. I'll just put it on my wish list for Christmas, and see if Santa can be nice to me :)
My drill mate kept sticking, didn't wanna come back up because of of the spring only lifting one side, added a rubber band to the other side . Works fine now.
So … the first tool? Yes! I’ve been trying to decide (I have the circle jig by milescraft, love it!) and this looks like the one. Then the second tool.. Taylor ruler stop? 😳 absolutely! I was going to get the center finder jig but hell, much more to do with these. 😂 annnnnnd then the 3rd tool. Come on! It’s like your walking around my shop looking to see what I’m missing 🤣🤣🤣 these blades are perfect because obviously to become an actual “woodworker” you Have to make custom cutting boards right? 🤦🏼♀️ Thank you! 😅😊 my husband is going to see my cart and hate you! Lol
I certainly hope the milescraft is upgraded, I got mine about 3 years ago and the chuck and bearing assembly are sloppy as heck and the guide bars were terribly stiff. It was like that from day one, I've taken it apart and made it work a bit better but there is only so much you can do
I have that drillpress and find I need to push down with a lot of resistance. It's as if the guides aren't exactly parallel which pushes the whole thing out of square. Tried removing the spring to see if that helps, but had no luck. It's now gathering dust in the workshop.
I've been looking for a drill stand like that for a while, and every single model I've seen has reviews complaining about wobble and poor build quality. The Drillmate does seem like the consensus "least bad" pick though, so I'll give it a try.
You've mentioned Ridge Carbide many times so I was wondering if you have any experience with Forrest blades as well. I love the two I have and I believe they are a very similar, small family owned company with USA production. Do you have any experience with any Forrest blades?
Thanks for the video, I have one of these milecraft drill press. How did you get the slide rail to run smoothly up and down. My rails feel they are not parallel. I ended up using grinding paste to grind the rails until the action was smooth. I would not recommend this tool, less you are in a position to make that return, regards
Just listen, I was just looking up drill guides like that to make churchwarden pipes. They make some large enough for my needs for studs and joist, after seeing the price I decided to make my own jig but I mean I was just looking them up, get out of my head.
Best Klein 11-in-1 screwdriver in my experience is the new ratcheting model #32500HDRT. It works with the Klein Knect series sockets as well as standard 1/4" and 5/16" driver bit inserts. They even make a stubby version, the #32561HDRT. Check it out at Lowe's.
I recently bought a long 1/2" compression bit to shape 1-3/4" wood to a a pattern, and I have 3 takeaways. #1 is the the bit cuts AMAZINGLY smooth! #2 is there seems to be a bit of vibration. And #3 is the I see a bit of a step between the up and down spirals. Are #2 and #3 consistent with your experience? Even with 2 and 3, I do recommend these bits. I have seen precision ground specialty tools in my engineering career, and these are on par with them. Did I mention the bit cuts amazingly smooth?
I was just talking to a neighbor of mine today and found out he is a sales rep for Milescraft, what's the wait time before asking if he can get me a discount ? lol
@@davearonow65 Not sure what you're talking about. Neither a triangle nor a T have parallel sides like a rectangle. You might call those degenerate quadrilaterals.
Gotta wonder why the handle for the drill stand isn't 90° off instead of out to the side like that. It'd make it far simpler to drill angled holes by hand if you were grabbing it opposite to the direction you're drilling because it would stop it sliding off the mark. You could do the same twist to centre thing that the drill stand has with those ruler stops; set them an even number of units apart, one on one side of the wood & the other on the other side, & then your centre is at the middle unit mark.
I don't have that particular brand, so maybe Milescraft makes it more rigid than the one I have, but I find there's an awful lot of play in the device. It's good enough for getting reasonably square holes and generally does better at this than drilling freehand, but if I needed accurate holes equidistant from an edge like that, I think I'd be using something more like a shelf-pin jig or some kind of fence and router setup. That said, there are some plastic parts in the version I have, so maybe the Milescraft version is better if it's all metal.
As far as I know, there's only a cmt thin kerf (2.4mm) with 4+1 profile. That's it. I haven't found anything else with that kind of profile.. I even wrote to cmt asking if they sold a full kerf one (extreme serie, 3.2mm kerf) combo blade, but they wrote it's only for USA market :/ If it's compatible with your table saw riving knife, you can try the cmt 272.250.50M
I use my 11(or so) in 1 klein screwdriver everyday as an electrician. They have impact rated ones now too. I like my old one due to having longer bits that could reach the screws buried in contactors and other electrical devices.
The woodturners link takes you to a textless rabbit hole. Try following the links to products/cbn wheels. - Unless it's my browsers (chrome and firefox and edge and tor). - Tony.
Sure, you can grab the bit with your hand and force it a little to the side if you try hard enough. But in actual use you have a third point of contact- the tip of the bit on the wood. The jig guides the bit as it bores into the hole and it keeps it very straight, in my experience. This is not a new idea. People have been using these for accurate drilling for many years.
I can even remember how many different mini drill presses I have bought over the years including this one. Rockler's is without a doubt the best one I have ever used.
I have B&D version of that that I've had for decades. I have to admit, that I don't really like it. It's too "flexible". I assume this one is sturdy enough to actually stay perpendicular when you use it.
I usually love your recommendations but that milescraft drill guide is a piece of junk. It's too flimsy, the spring is too weak, and the guide itself racks and is often hard to push down. I bought one to drill dog holes in my work bench and MFT tables and ended up tossing it and just hand-drilling through a pre-drillled 2x4. I didn't even bother sending it to Goodwill lest someone spend $5 on it and think they were getting a deal. I've heard the Rockler one might actually be worthwhile but I'm also curious about the 3d printable one from USSA Design (info on their youtube channel). Until then, a 2x4 and some Wood Owl Overdrive bits are so much more reliable.
There was a time Klein and high quality could be used together. Hate to say it as an electrician that used to use all their tools, they are terrible now days. Especially their pliers and regular screwdrivers.
I'm not trusting of Milescraft. I ordered a dowel jig package from Amazon and, rather than sending me the package I ordered, they kept substituting it with a lower priced package that contained the same jig. After the second wrong package arrived, I demanded a refund. That's bait and switch and is illegal.
@@StumpyNubs "That's Amazon, not Milescraft." It's too bad that there isn't a way to report stuff like this and have the company fined for not training their employees properly.
LOL... I think most people know I have to remove the blade guard to show a saw blade, but then again, most people just watch the video instead of looking for something to point to and say "you did this wrong!"
@@StumpyNubs you did say before that you intended to use the blade guards now in future videos. I'm trying to remember to do it in my own Shop as well.
@@KillerSpud - I said I would as much as possible. I also said there are times when a guard can not be used. And if you recall, that whole video was prompted by the ridiculously nitpicky notion that I should not remove a guard to show the blade I am talking about.... This whole argument is so "internet".
11 in 1s are great. Just dont be the guy who uses removable tips on anything in an electrical panel. Thats a huge nono and you dont wanna find out why.
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thanks for the inspiration. definetly more stuff added to my buy list.
I can't believe this series is up to 47! I've lost track of how many of my tools have come from your recommendations. Thanks for all of the great videos!
I have hope for 47. I should know better, 40 now, many idols disgraced and passed, but I do feel now something good, hope it's not nothing, please come through for our son's and daughter's sakes. I'm not even American but what happens there through cultural influence has followed forth unfailingly throughout the western world. Hoping waiting wishing.
Great videos, you've gotten so good at the presentation, looking back at old videos is a bit jarring even though they're really good too in comparison to other woodtubrs nowadays.
First time I ever clicked a link from a UA-cam video to buy something. Milescraft.
I have one of those drill mates and I absolutely love it. Just be careful to not lose your little rubber feet.
the temptation.... Damnit James! on payday no less....
“Taxes: Lemme get a little bit of that!”
I found the Drill Mate really handy when I was making dog holes for my workbench - it was a game changer!
I wanted to throw you a thanks because I've had the Milescraft drill master for awhile and I never thought about screwing it to a piece of wood like you showed.
Thanks for the tip!
Cheers
I got one last year for Christmas and couldn’t be happier. Great for drilling out dog holes.
@@CrazyManwich that's the main reason why I bought mine but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I can't decide if I should go metric or 3/4" holes?
I recently had to run out and buy the DrillMate a few weeks ago for a project my wife came up with for the need it yesterday list, and the one I had only did 90 degree drilling. Needed to drill a butt load of angled holed in 2x2's. Every time there is a cool tools video, I see something I need, or something I already have, but didn't think to use it that way. Thanks!
47 Years of cool youtube tools! Congratulations.
Episodes.
😂
@@StumpyNubs Long, long time. You barely look it.
The drill guide is an updated (and improved) version of the old Port-Align sold at Sears in the 70’s. It was well made for its time and worked very well. I still have mine and haul it out every now and then for certain tasks.
Wish I’d have seen the ruler and guide stops before I bought the big red bird’s Paolini rule, though that item is excellent.
I have one of those that I inherited from my dad. Still solid. Still works. Proof of an excellent idea and design.
I have one of the drill mates, and I like it, my only quip with it is that it doesn't go up and down smoothly, I have tried using paste wax, and oil (but neither has gotten rid of the non smooth movements up and down), that being said, I still love the thing. I've been thinking of 3d printing something similar, but haven't had the time to design it.
I put on a little bees wax (just rub the wax stick on the shafts). It works really smoothly.
I ended up using mountain bike chain wax lube on mine. Spread it with a paper towel and it's pretty darned slick. : )
Thanks again, James for another great video!
Once again, thank you for a very helpful video. I will definitely be getting a couple 11 in 1 tools
100% agree on the Klein 11-in-1... I have them everywhere!
You’ve never steered me wrong, James! I’ve bought a number of cool tools on your recommendation and loved all of them. It always makes me excited for the next cool tools video!
Thank You for all your tips
Thanks for all of the great videos
Great tools as always definitely going to check out a couple of these. Thanks for sharing as always James
I have the DrillMate and their router circle-cutting jig. Both are great tools!
Had to restart cause a buddy stopped in and couldn't give ya the attention ya deserve blue, and I recognize, respect and appreciate your reviews and that's why you my boy
Another!! excellent video. Again, thank you.
Outstanding presentation.
Another great cool tools review. Thank you!
That router bit would be perfect for making guitar bodies.
A few years ago I saw you talking about the Ridge Carbon table saw blade(s). I ordered one for my tablet saw and one for my miter saw. Love them!!
I bought one of the Milescraft drill tools a few years ago and while it ain't perfect, it comes in real handy for drilling into pipes, or in some weird place where you need a hole and it must be perpendicular. I wonder if there is a replacement keyless chuck? That would be a real improvement! It has saved my day a few times; for example: it was a godsend when I drilled dog holes in my bench!
I keep wanting to purchase the drill mate. It's not too pricey, I'm just constantly trying to justify the cost. I have made quite a few adhoc jigs to accomplish the few times it would be handy. I'll just put it on my wish list for Christmas, and see if Santa can be nice to me :)
Thanks for all the tips and tools, James! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Agree 100% with the dead-blow mallets. I picked up three earlier this year and use them all the time
My drill mate kept sticking, didn't wanna come back up because of of the spring only lifting one side, added a rubber band to the other side . Works fine now.
I have a bees wax stick that I use for all sorts of things int he shop. Give the shafts a scribble and they slide nicely.
@@StumpyNubsawesome! I have some from candle making I'll use. Thanks for the tip!
So … the first tool? Yes! I’ve been trying to decide (I have the circle jig by milescraft, love it!) and this looks like the one. Then the second tool.. Taylor ruler stop? 😳 absolutely! I was going to get the center finder jig but hell, much more to do with these. 😂 annnnnnd then the 3rd tool. Come on! It’s like your walking around my shop looking to see what I’m missing 🤣🤣🤣 these blades are perfect because obviously to become an actual “woodworker” you Have to make custom cutting boards right? 🤦🏼♀️ Thank you! 😅😊 my husband is going to see my cart and hate you! Lol
I have one of these, and I picked it up used, bit in good repair. I'll most likely use it with a corded drill.
I certainly hope the milescraft is upgraded, I got mine about 3 years ago and the chuck and bearing assembly are sloppy as heck and the guide bars were terribly stiff. It was like that from day one, I've taken it apart and made it work a bit better but there is only so much you can do
I have that drillpress and find I need to push down with a lot of resistance. It's as if the guides aren't exactly parallel which pushes the whole thing out of square. Tried removing the spring to see if that helps, but had no luck. It's now gathering dust in the workshop.
I've been looking for a drill stand like that for a while, and every single model I've seen has reviews complaining about wobble and poor build quality. The Drillmate does seem like the consensus "least bad" pick though, so I'll give it a try.
Brillant product thanks James.
I used the Klein 11 in 1 for years as an electrician. It is a great tool.
Wow! #47! Maybe you should do these more than once a year.
LOL... I am actually 47 years old (almost).
Brilliant, thank you. I'll take one of everything!
A genuine board stretcher!
One of my Dad's favorite sayings was " Don't force it, get a bigger hammer!"
Thanks James for sharing this video, will be ordering a couple things before long. Fred.
You've mentioned Ridge Carbide many times so I was wondering if you have any experience with Forrest blades as well. I love the two I have and I believe they are a very similar, small family owned company with USA production. Do you have any experience with any Forrest blades?
Thanks for the video, I have one of these milecraft drill press. How did you get the slide rail to run smoothly up and down. My rails feel they are not parallel. I ended up using grinding paste to grind the rails until the action was smooth. I would not recommend this tool, less you are in a position to make that return, regards
finally cool tools I can afford lololol
Just listen, I was just looking up drill guides like that to make churchwarden pipes. They make some large enough for my needs for studs and joist, after seeing the price I decided to make my own jig but I mean I was just looking them up, get out of my head.
Best Klein 11-in-1 screwdriver in my experience is the new ratcheting model #32500HDRT. It works with the Klein Knect series sockets as well as standard 1/4" and 5/16" driver bit inserts. They even make a stubby version, the #32561HDRT. Check it out at Lowe's.
This one: amzn.to/3V1zPeJ
I recently bought a long 1/2" compression bit to shape 1-3/4" wood to a a pattern, and I have 3 takeaways. #1 is the the bit cuts AMAZINGLY smooth! #2 is there seems to be a bit of vibration. And #3 is the I see a bit of a step between the up and down spirals. Are #2 and #3 consistent with your experience? Even with 2 and 3, I do recommend these bits. I have seen precision ground specialty tools in my engineering career, and these are on par with them. Did I mention the bit cuts amazingly smooth?
Is your bit a Whiteside?
@@StumpyNubs Yes. 1/2 inch up/down spiral with a 2 inch cut capability.
If there is a "step" between the up and down cutters, does it create an uneven edge?
@@StumpyNubs Yes it does. It's small, but both visible and I can feel it. I had to sand it to be smooth.
@@bobalman Send it back. Contact Whiteside directly if you can't send it back to where you got it.
Varijig is a great piece of kit.
I was just talking to a neighbor of mine today and found out he is a sales rep for Milescraft, what's the wait time before asking if he can get me a discount ? lol
I've had trouble with thebitsfalling out.
It's a keyed chuck. I can't imagine the bits coming out if you tighten it well.
@2:11 Now that's a great idea!
For anyone who doesn't know, squares are in fact rectangles.
They're Perfect rectangles
@@josedomingosteixeira1379 The word you are looking for is regular. Squares are regular rectangles.
@Erik-iu9zt Not always. sometimes, they are triangles. Sometimes, they are "T's".
Vsauce?
@@davearonow65 Not sure what you're talking about. Neither a triangle nor a T have parallel sides like a rectangle. You might call those degenerate quadrilaterals.
Babe wake up... another Cool Tools just dropped
Gotta wonder why the handle for the drill stand isn't 90° off instead of out to the side like that. It'd make it far simpler to drill angled holes by hand if you were grabbing it opposite to the direction you're drilling because it would stop it sliding off the mark.
You could do the same twist to centre thing that the drill stand has with those ruler stops; set them an even number of units apart, one on one side of the wood & the other on the other side, & then your centre is at the middle unit mark.
Plus we have the exact same sentiments on 11-in-1 tool AND have the same one blue! Lol
I don't have that particular brand, so maybe Milescraft makes it more rigid than the one I have, but I find there's an awful lot of play in the device. It's good enough for getting reasonably square holes and generally does better at this than drilling freehand, but if I needed accurate holes equidistant from an edge like that, I think I'd be using something more like a shelf-pin jig or some kind of fence and router setup. That said, there are some plastic parts in the version I have, so maybe the Milescraft version is better if it's all metal.
Harbor freight is a great place to get dead blow mallets. And clamps. I am surprised with that quality of the clamps for the cost.
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Is there anything like the ridge carbide made in europe?
As far as I know, there's only a cmt thin kerf (2.4mm) with 4+1 profile. That's it. I haven't found anything else with that kind of profile..
I even wrote to cmt asking if they sold a full kerf one (extreme serie, 3.2mm kerf) combo blade, but they wrote it's only for USA market :/
If it's compatible with your table saw riving knife, you can try the cmt 272.250.50M
I use my 11(or so) in 1 klein screwdriver everyday as an electrician. They have impact rated ones now too.
I like my old one due to having longer bits that could reach the screws buried in contactors and other electrical devices.
Love your videos
The woodturners link takes you to a textless rabbit hole. Try following the links to products/cbn wheels. - Unless it's my browsers (chrome and firefox and edge and tor). - Tony.
Portable press, good idea but Carriage never lines up bad tolerances
Sure, you can grab the bit with your hand and force it a little to the side if you try hard enough. But in actual use you have a third point of contact- the tip of the bit on the wood. The jig guides the bit as it bores into the hole and it keeps it very straight, in my experience. This is not a new idea. People have been using these for accurate drilling for many years.
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YASSSS COOL TOOLS 😎😎
I can even remember how many different mini drill presses I have bought over the years including this one. Rockler's is without a doubt the best one I have ever used.
12 or 13 tool driver cuz I can pry and hammer with it.
2:12 -- I dunno... "Edge" isn't that fancy of a word. :)
Wth i want all of these.
My drillmate got knocked off the bench with a drill attached and bent the shaft 🙁
2:14 lol
I enjoy these "clever tools" videos, but I have to admit, it gets expensive ... seems I make a purchase on most of them.
I have B&D version of that that I've had for decades. I have to admit, that I don't really like it. It's too "flexible". I assume this one is sturdy enough to actually stay perpendicular when you use it.
Let's see a dead blow hammer video. But I'll stick with my cheapo harbor freight model
Klein handles would break my hand
I usually love your recommendations but that milescraft drill guide is a piece of junk. It's too flimsy, the spring is too weak, and the guide itself racks and is often hard to push down. I bought one to drill dog holes in my work bench and MFT tables and ended up tossing it and just hand-drilling through a pre-drillled 2x4. I didn't even bother sending it to Goodwill lest someone spend $5 on it and think they were getting a deal. I've heard the Rockler one might actually be worthwhile but I'm also curious about the 3d printable one from USSA Design (info on their youtube channel). Until then, a 2x4 and some Wood Owl Overdrive bits are so much more reliable.
There was a time Klein and high quality could be used together. Hate to say it as an electrician that used to use all their tools, they are terrible now days. Especially their pliers and regular screwdrivers.
That's the most useful looking but worst to own screwdrivers ever! To get a replacement bit you need to buy a whole new screwdriver!
Don't get mad, get a bigger (dead blow) hammer.
I'm not trusting of Milescraft.
I ordered a dowel jig package from Amazon and, rather than sending me the package I ordered, they kept substituting it with a lower priced package that contained the same jig.
After the second wrong package arrived, I demanded a refund. That's bait and switch and is illegal.
That's Amazon, not Milescraft.
@@StumpyNubs
"That's Amazon, not Milescraft."
It's too bad that there isn't a way to report stuff like this and have the company fined for not training their employees properly.
Bought the 1st one and returned it. Awful.
Not using the blade guard on the table saw? tisk tisk.
I need you to see the blade I am talking about.
... or at least mentioning why he wasn't and reminding people that they should.
LOL... I think most people know I have to remove the blade guard to show a saw blade, but then again, most people just watch the video instead of looking for something to point to and say "you did this wrong!"
@@StumpyNubs you did say before that you intended to use the blade guards now in future videos. I'm trying to remember to do it in my own
Shop as well.
@@KillerSpud - I said I would as much as possible. I also said there are times when a guard can not be used. And if you recall, that whole video was prompted by the ridiculously nitpicky notion that I should not remove a guard to show the blade I am talking about.... This whole argument is so "internet".
11 in 1s are great.
Just dont be the guy who uses removable tips on anything in an electrical panel.
Thats a huge nono and you dont wanna find out why.