I started playing Wuwa as soon as I learned there's unique cinematics for getting 5 star in convene.Idk why but I feel rewarded after grinding.Unlike genshin where you get jpg with audio file attached..💀
my reason is simple : - no use stamina for running, can climb by running - have more variation for attack combination - more brutal attack effect - have dodge and parry - i'm a waifu collector and all of sexy female in wuwa are more skin revealing than genshin and consistent jiggling assets
I spent at least 800 usd on genshin in just 6 months (gambling addiction) and i actually felt bad after. But with wuwa i’ve only spent about 50 dollars and i was able to get all limited 5stars and weapons except jinhsi and zhezhi so far. People sht on wuwa revenue but they dont realize people actually dont have to spend at all to get the characters they want (unless they wanna get everyone). Weapon banner alone explains why wuwa earns far less than hoyo games (80 pulls for guaranteed in wuwa and 270 pulls for genshin)
Spent more on PGR and WuWa latest 3 months then I have in Hoyo games last 3 years. Something always felt off with Hoyo games, like the devs did not listen.
That's the Problem. Wuwa needs to make money so don't expect the generosity to last. If anything expect Backlast once WuWa can milk more from players. Right now. They are desperately clawing at Market share from Genshin. I guarantee it's been a Money sink so far for them so it might take longer to even break even after the added cost of story rewrites.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Never played PGR have you? Just wait until they start releasing 40-60$ skins with full new animations, effects, voice lines and a event quest for the costume.
Did you know? Pgr and wuwa have different servers, in taiwan, japan, china and then the global audience. In china, it is acceptable to spend money, and I mean, spend a LOT of money on games(since it is considered a hobby I think?), and PGR and Wuwa get most of their revenue from these players. The global audience is just so that they can expand on their popularity, which in return will also still garner them more revenue. Also, PGR and wuwa haven't even peaked yet, it's gonna be peak when it turns into a decade old(PGR for that matter:> )
13:00 In Wuthering Waves I lost all 3 of my 50/50 in 2 months of playing the game, but I still have: S0R1 Yinlin, S2R1 Changli (she made me broke), S1 Calcharo and S0 Verina (I got these two only a few days into the game), S1 Encore, one standard weapon and a box that can give me a standard 5 star weapon of my choice. In Genshin Impact it took me 100+ hours to get a single 5 star character, Tighnari (Lost 50/50 again ;-;). Now after playing genshin for roughly the same ammount of time as WuWa I only have Tighnari, Keqing and Yelan. As a F2P Wuthering Waves offers a million times better experience then Genshin in terms of being able to get the 5 stars I want in a reasonable ammount of time.
Btw did u notice that Genshin gives less in the chests in the wood chests it gives like 2-3 primos i think compared to wuwa lowest chest is like 5 i think. Even if u scrape every patch u can only get 60-70 pulls assuming theres a map release in genshin and if u want to try weapon banner and dont mind getting absolutely destroyed by it costs like 200+ if u unlucky. The Problem i have with genshin is that these days even if extremely invested characters lik neuv and furina and other strong supports its still fairly difficult to 36* abyss and hear this b4re they said they dont want to make a hard game eg: just put spongy boss and time-gate rewards. Skip back today and we get the Theatre... ppl who build wide can only clear it rlly aka Vets who stayed after grinding their souls into dust after 3 years... not sure if cant make a gamemode that bad but Surely Mihoyo knows the way lol at least we dont need perfect clears just clear the stage so ehh ok i guess tbh why they even add elemental restrictions? it just breaks the flow of the game.
@@LimC.A nah wuwa got more powercreep in 1.1 than genshin, in genshin 4.8 strong characters are the same as 1.0 with some additions, xiangling and bennett never leave my teams, if i didn't had furina i'd use xingqiu, neuvillette is only good because he's braindead to use and has a lot of QoL and self sustain (and is pretty easy to build), but i can go to genshin right here right now, pull out my childe kazuha bennett xiangling team (its a 1.6 team and it has a sucrose variant which clears similarly), and still clear this current abyss cycle, there's more viable characters, but it doesn't mean you can't clear with literal 1.0 stuff as for chests, genshin chests are 2 per chest min, but in wuwa there's way less chests i get 2 chests on wuwa and its already like a 3% of the area, in genshin i do the same its not even 1%, so there's less per chest, but there's definitely a lot more chests fr
The thing about Kuro's love for White hair characters comes in PGR tho with Alpha, Liv, Wanshi and Karerina being Op and Treated so well that they make the Playerbase love these White Haired characters I mean they are fans of DMC and NIER so theres that and their love of Twin pigtail characters that they give some love for their own characters
I played WuWa because my time for games was getting low, and genshin keep wanting more time which just made me lazy to play.. In wuwa, the combat feels faster and movement was fast too. it's easy and fast to build characters too, it makes my free time on playing games much more enjoyable. not to mention, the skip button being there really helps when playing world quests.
true especially i only have my mobile phone because it gets too hot from using too much and playing genshin is pain in the ass my phone is hot already while farming and im still not getting enough i dont want to ruin my phone this is the only i have meanwhile in wuwa everything feels so faster the combat the movement and damn im enjoying every bit of it the combat is just too astounding
Some of the events too are not much of a time gated event. Like the festival event right now. Perfect for me, who sometimes don't have time to play games cause I'm a student
My reasons are simple. Adults look like adults, instead of stretches out kids before fontaine. All the action combat features like enemy poise, parry, intro/outro. I still play Genshin super casually, so it's fine as long as I play genshin before WuWa, not after. Playing Genshin after WuWa in the day feels like a turtle struggling uphill.
on the adults looking like adults, kuro currently has a 2/2 record of confirming that the child-like characters are children! A comic confirms verina to be 12 and in a main story quest encore says “Uncle Aalto likes playing pranks on us kids...” the keyword there being us! :3
@@FutayuriShironeko its fine as long as you don't sexuallize characters, it starts being a problem when the 3000yo toddler has provocative clothing and such, but genshin is not like that, klee is a kid, even when nahida is 500yo thats on archon terms she's essentially a child for the race too and is not sexuallized either, and the list goes on with diona sayu etc
@@FutayuriShironeko yeah but then again with characters like nahida it totally makes sense, (spoilers tho), she's the literal reincarnation of a god, and it serves narratively bc of al the shit that happened in sumeru, so that i can accept bc 1. Its not used as an excuse for "its okay to sexuallize this character", its used for literal plot, 2, its never said that she's not a children matter of fact in the whole sumeru storyline you can see how she's naive and lacks a lot of basic knowledge, so even when she's "500yo", its for plot and nothing more, which i really like, if its done good then im good with it, we don't have to go like all negative about it when its used in this particular way, NOW anything else? Go to jail freak
It's pretty simple, they treated their players badly then obviously once a new game that treats their players better and deliver a game just as good or maybe even better then of course common sense those people would switch, *UNLESS* one is in Stockholm syndrome, too deep in Sunk cost or a kid that thinks Genshin is the best gacha game ever
@@batches3526 That has nohing to do with the director and everything to do with Wuwa being a direct competitor. If they gave a sht about the players they wouldn't have waited 5 years.
I decided to try wuwa because of the good experiences I had from playing pgr. The gacha and gameplay on pgr feels rewarding and so far wuwa does not disappoint on that regard.
I actually started playing genshin after playing wuwa and my god the early game experience here sucks. It's so much grindy and you barely get any rewards after playing for that much time. Seems like they just kept everything the way it was during its release 4 years ago
The chest primogem rewards too. Before the primogem in common chest is 5 now it's 2, and the exquisite chest 10 before but now it's 5. It is effective in old maps like mondstadt and liyue. It sucks ua-cam.com/users/shortsMgMSkubFeys?si=dI-RhNOfydkFLhW5
@@yuu23163Was it though? Any Proof it was 5 for a Common chest before? Edit: Looked up the Wiki. Turns out higher chest rewards are from higher scaling areas. Doesn't look like they changed chest rewards. People would notice.
Can't say I left Genshin for WuWa since I only last in Genshin until 1.1 😂 Real reason tho, I just randomly stumbled upon WuWa's pre-reg page from somewhere. Got curious, pre-reg, then actually forgot about it until near launch date, then tried it to at least got the pre-reg bonuses. FRover immediately caught my attention, but the harem isekai protag vibe at the start almost put me off, but then the wall-running and Crownless fight sealed the deal for me. Note: GGZ is Guns Girl Z, or Houkai Gakuen 2. It's MHY game before they made HI3
The reason I started playing WuWa is because I want to try playing open-world gacha games like Genshin, it's just that Genshin (and others) have too much content to catch up on and I don't like the feeling of being left behind. 😆 So when I heard about WuWa, I pre-registered, and now we're here. 🙂↕️✨
I started because it looked very interesting and everyone was talking about it. I kept playing because i feel treated well and the atmosphere is more mature. It's a game for grownups, not kids like genshin. I am tired of helping stupid frogs or some fairy tail creature in genshin... making kites or just messing around for some commission...i would like to feel part of a story, i want to feel the danger, i want to fight a real menace. This is wuwa! Not to mention the satisfaction of the fight sounds....sweet. 🎉
I really like the fact that enemies can fight each other (it actually gives open-world vibe). The gameplay if all the characters (even the ones I don't like) is just so easy on the eyes - Jinhsi is my most favourite (she's my main). I am just hoping and praying scar becomes playable.
I'm just baffled that a lot of genshin players often join group for wuwa just to complain but in fact they're not even playing it. And most in genshin group that defending wuwa are just some old players like me😂😂
I saw this one guy joined every wuwa group just to complain.. I swear I'm laughing everytime I saw his comment.. I will immediately reply to him why are you everywhere? 😂😂😂
@@GreyIsolet What a Weird thing to say when you can't even mention HSR kids Clara, Bailu & Hook and just biasly mention only WuWa. You're pretty obvious Hoyo bot.
@@GreyIsolet If you noticed All Characters of Genshin are child-like as they were designed to have BIGGER HEADS in comparison to their body ratio in the game. That's because they started the game rated 12+ to cater to kids. Even your favorite Raiden Shogun and Yae Miko look like kids having bigger heads in comparison to their bodies. They just look mature to you because of the banner drawings and Redrawing Twitter Posts and editing to look mature but in-game, when you play them they literally look like kids with Big heads signifying Baby-like body structure.
@@GreyIsoleti think what he meant is that even the adult models have child like features. Like if you look closely to adult charas like raiden, yae and other characters their face looks childish.
i started WuWa bcz I quit genshin a good while ago, so I only played H:SR which takes 5~10mins a day max + it looked fun to play. EDIT: oh, female rover, baizhi, jianxin (best standard), yinlin and changli were a big invitiation for me.
@@Kiyosandwicheater i tried genshin again, i literally cant play it anymore. the slow traversal, no dodge, no grappling hook. limited stamina, and the biggest reason of all, no skip dialogue option
@@EmperorIcePenguin same with me, you know genshin want to give free 5 star standard char, so I installed again for that, and it feels so lame, the combat system, exploration, ect
@@gumiwanguang and the difficulty of exploring. some chests/hydroculus are hidden behind hours upon hours of world quests (f.e. aranara or fontaine quest) or you have to do some bullshit puzzle that makes no damn sense for it to be there.
@@EmperorIcePenguin oh yes all that stuffs, back then I'm so excited to finished aranara quest, and got all the culus from all region, but now I've lost interest
I have anticipated WUWA ever since kuro announced it's making since 2021. A lot of us came from PGR. Not sure though if like half of the 30 million pre-registered are PGR players...
It took 4 years from launch for Genshin to release their first standard five-star selector. It took 3 days after launch for Wuthering Waves to release their second.
don't forget the fact that the meta were now all over the place, the only useful standard characters now are Mona and Tighnari. and putting Dehya in the selector itself is already an insult 💀
@@a4arick106 keqing is as viable as tighnari even more with C6 fischl, diluc is a great plunge DPS that got buffed twice with furina dna xianyun, jean is the 2nd best anemo healer for furina other than xianyun (a literal limited character), only dehya and qiqi are truly useless, and dehya will have some use with mualanbi and lyney with interruption RES, you is definitely tripping
@@NFYT stop coping please. You have WAY better options now. If it was 2 or 3 years ago I would agree with you but right now unless you miss someone nobody cares
@@NFYT Tighnari and Keqing have really weird split scalings and have more than two stats to optimize for. Diluc plunge is more of a niche and not really that effective Jean is good but there are better teammates for Furina like Kokomi or C6 Noelle Mona is just good for screenshot damage and she's no longer effective for two years now. Qiqi is useless as always Dehya is crap at low cons and deals as much damage as a decently-invested Xiangling at high cons There are just better options now even if you're an F2P.
@@NFYT "keqing is viable as tighnari", You are way better to use Kuki Shinobu than Keqing in this current meta because having off -field electro applicator is way better to play around dendro elemental reaction. Heck using Fischl can even make Kuki's burst far more broken than Keqing. And Dehya herself literally needs a rework rather than getting characters that can compliment her kits, because of how shitty her burst is (you literally spam one button even during bosses, no matter what the condition is, otherwise even jumping literally cancels her ult 💀) might as well be better off with some better 4-star Pyro DPS like Yanfei because she is far more consistent in terms of the internal cooldown of applying Pyro while not having DPS-Loss in your rotation. Diluc being 2nd best plunge is legit your own coping mechanism because Gaming is far better as Plunge DPS than Diluc, and easier to get the cons with way more viable 4-star weapons for him than Diluc, and even MORE BROKEN with Xianyun in the the party. Jean's the best anemo healer, while having an anemo healer in this current meta is already stupid. Especially when most of the time you are already having a far more useful healer with useful elements like Hydro, (Barbara herself compliments with Furina way more than Jean because of both being Hydro and managed to reach full stack with her heal) and with Anemo meta being nothing more than Swirl if you're not using Kazuha, most likely people will look the other alternatives for healer, and people who already got Furina didn't even need healer. So you're the one actually coping hard.
I quit genshin for WuWa because: 1. No artifact farming but rather echo farming which can be done while exploration, killing 2 birds with 1 stone. I can prioritise my waveplates for mats that are guaranteed compared to something rng like artifacts. 2. I wanted a fight that is more dynamic Started to like games with dynamic fights when I played Horizon Forbidden West while I had no internet for a few weeks. After playing that and head back to Genshin, I felt the fights in the game being more and more restricting. So, I searched all over for a game that has dynamic fights till WuWa came out. What got me in was MRover. But then the fight started and I realized that I found the game I've been looking for. Now I play both PGR Aand WuWa while quitting every other game I had before.
No Daily-Dependant Weapon and Talent materials where if you not on the right day or at least Sunday, you wish you could change days just so to get the weapon/talen mats you wanted 💀
@@a4arick106 This. No one mentions it but its such a big deal i hate being gatekept by irl time when im already gated by the damn stamina. I cant explain how many times i wanted to farm something but it wasnt the day so i forget it and couple days later i remember to farm it just to see its second day in the week has been passed too... fuck that shit
I didn’t quit genshin at all been playing for 2 years and I’m still satisfied with the game and it’s phasing majority of the players who complain are just people who don’t touch grass or don’t have a real job (content creators) plus people who treat playing a game like a relationship with someone is just dumb I don’t think there should be any reason for a game to make you feel rewarded just in order to keep playing it ,just play it if you like it or else take a brake or completely quit and there’s no objective answer to which game is better cause it’s just personal preference at the end of the day just because you like heck slash it doesn’t mean everyone likes heck slash.
If you're ALREADY tired of white hair.... boy, I got news for you xD Out of the 63 characters in PGR (Kuro's other game) 26 of them have white hair xD If we add grey-ish hair this number jumps up to 33 xD Kuro LOVES their monochrome, black, white, grey are their main colors, throw in some colorful highlights and that's Kuro's design philosophy in a nutshell and they sure as hell won't change that xD
That actually so rare in games (at least the ones I have played). Most games have the complete opposite colour palette (vibrant, pastel, even neon sometimes). Kuro's games are kinda like a breath of fresh air.
I find it unfortunate that wuwa is getting horrendously laggy for my phone. But before that, it was amazing.. the generosity, animations, gameplay and no doubt.. THE STAMINA SYTEM.. FINALLY I DONT HAVE TO WALK AFTER DRAINING MY STAMINA EVERY 2 SECONDS
I started playing WuWa because I was like "Oh, pretty character designs, looks fun and I want a new open world to play!" since I was burned out from Genshin (dropped it) and was starting to get bored of HSR too Staying because of Scar, Yinlin, Yuanwu and Jinhsi (my beloveds, I am so surprised no other character have caught my eye besides these. I'm usually very easy to fetch but GYATT these four have my heart and sould)
Played wuwa for jiyan and lingyang (because I saw tanjiro's Japanese VA playing it and he voices lingyang so I have to play it! XD). Also, dancing tortoise lmao
Played Genshin when it was released but felt exhausted coz of the dailies and some exploration mechanics like slowly climbing walls so, I quit after a month of playing. I'm glad I haven't felt anything like that for WuWa. ❤
hoyo has built a strong gaming community for their game over the past 4-5 years, genshin may have its problems but it is very strong and wide so it is still in the top 10 in revenue. what i want to say here is that the number of players quitting the game seems to be very small compared to the number of players staying, wuwa doesn't seem to be a threat to genshin right now but over time the fandom may grow even stronger, i can see that in order to stop that growth hoyo had to change genshin in a more positive direction to retain players
the top revenue is just Hoyo passing around their income to their 3 games, kinda like how a company passing around their stock market to investors, to monopolize the market so that the public saw them as the immovable object that always on top.
@@a4arick106that's their plan, create so many games in every genre so they can dominate all the market which is scummy and won't end well. They're developing an Animal Crossing game and an MMO apparently
@@sojirou.kThey're NOT only creating games to cover every genre. They're creating *A TOP QUALITY* games to cover every genre. That's why I'm very confident with Hoyoverse.
@@mori1332 I don't think keeping everything resin(energy) gated is high quality gameplay though. If you haven't noticed, nobody new played ZZZ. Their bad reputation with Genshin is definitely affecting them.
@@RKNancy sounds like you never played gacha game because that's a pretty normal thing. +The system continues to receive improvement. Did you know that it literally takes less than 30 seconds to complete your dailies in Genshin? All I want to say is the time gated progressions are the core of EVERY GACHA game. Genshin ACTUAL content is the massive beautiful and diverse open world. With every region having a distinct exploration mechanic and TOP TIER MUSIC to accompany you. I'm not here to shit on WuWa because the game is still new and also I play the game too.
Only the leftover losers ended up leaving Genshin for Wuwa. The rest of us chads play BOTH. Shows in the market performance. I mean ZZZ makes so much more and catching up so much more heat. Anyways enjoy WuWa while it lasts! Before you know it, they'll eventually release Changli in a summer swimsuit just to survive a la ToF XD
the problem is, female rover loses interm of eyelash from male rover. like both tho, still choose female for a reason. i like how rover was cunning inside, and not clueless even tho they lost their memories.
THIS! i love how the rover actually has a personality... and not just whatever the traveller has going on, they’re two different people (unlike with hsr or wuwa, where its the exact same person but genderswapped) make it distinct! so much missed potential.
•Basic reasons - bit better and realistic graphics then genshin - unique combat style with counter option + easy exploration •Main reason -Every 5 star characters have different level of uniqueness in their playstyle example - jinshi and changli (more to come in future) - kuro games gives more to their players then hoyo. (free 5 star character + weapon for new players with 50 standard wishes) - you don't have to worry about lose in weapon banner weapons are guarented in this game you heard me right - Echos they're basically the artifact's of wuwa but since they in games mobs you always are excited about collecting different different echoes you can even take bosses as your echo more importantly they can be used in combat
Former PGR commandant. Had to drop it because I ran out of storage on my phone and I don't like the 3-ping system on PC. Currently playing both Genshin and WuWa. Competition is good. For now, Genshin > WuWa because of the top quality production. Maybe someday WuWa will reach the same standard. One day... 🙏🏻
One reason I played WuWa.. For combat, I once played Genshin, I liked the idea of Open-world but I felt that the combat was bad, so I uninstalled it..then a year later WuWa was announced, from hearing the things about the "combat" I played it instantly..Anw, thx Kuro!!!
Picked up WuWa and PGR at the same time and both are amazing games but PGR is a few years old and thus has so much more story and content. Really really good story too. Everyone who likes WuWa and wanna try a new gacha, give PGR a try! It's really bad at the first chapters, but the game really get much much better as you continue your progress!
Day 1 genshin player here. The biggest factors for me were movement and generosity. I play a lot of warframe so movement is very important to me. If movement is power, then warframe and wuwa make you feel incredibly powerful. As for the second part, it wasn't wuwa's generosity that put me off genshin, it was genshin trying to be generous after all these years. Improvements to genshin's artifact rng, wish system, bunch of qol stuff, and rewards overall (free pulls and the 5 star selector) are coming soon. It just made me realize that yeah, they have always been capable of doing these things, they just never chose to. It's like a toxic ex trying to better themselves to win you over again only after you've found someone else. Genshin has been complacent for too long and it's a shitty feeling watching them change now. I'm happy for the genshin players for these changes and i might log in to play the story in the future again, but i'm not interested in spending dolphin money nor the extra time to grind for pulls anymore. I don't even know if i'm interested enough to log in for the selector. As for wuwa, seeing as how the devs are pretty similar to the warframe devs with the way they actually listen (us getting qol updates without waiting 3 years), i might stick around unless the devs change faces.
1000% agree with the genshin 4th anniversary rewards situation. It feels like a slap on the face tbh. Standard banner character selector is such a joke for older players. It took 4 years for genshin to give a free standard 5 star while other games give you a permanent standard banner selector on the release itself and only take barely one year to give a *limited* 5 star character (often the first anniversary).
You literally get the improvements you wanted and now feel worst tht Genshin Implemented it? Really? And the game just got a New Director after Cai moved to America branch. Da Wei is now in control and the one in charge of HSR. Don't think genshin improved only because of WuWa despite the massive revenue difference between the two. It's more likely the director change from Cai who is incredibly stingy vs Da Wei who is in charge of HSR and HI3rd that is now giving. Seriously there's no winning. Either Genshin does nothing and complain. Or Genshin Improves and complain harder calling them a toxic X.
@@_butter.cup_ Except it's every year for Genshin at this point. Honestly with Da Wei at the helm now as Director for Genshin. I think things will change a lot. And no. People are exaggerating how unusable the 5 star selector Is.
@@silverhawkscape2677 It’s not exaggeration. You are just coping. Edit: I don’t mean to provoke you with this comment. After bare minimum “rewards” that genshin has given in the past, genshin-only players will accept any free stuff at this point.
I always wanted to play ginshin but it was very expensive for me and ginshin does not listen to playbase . Wuwa is not expensive f2p friendly and Kuro games Appreciate their player base
One of the very first PGR player during global launch I just stop cuz my phone can't handle the graphics started playing again wth both games now that I have a powerful phone
Sorry for the a whole novel reply lol :') I came from PGR, though I just started playing just last year in December, and that was around the time I've already been so sick of Genshin (and anything Hyv related. Never touched HSR) and got me hooked because of that one character (Lee Hyperreal had me on a chokehold). After a few months, I only noticed the announcement for Wuthering Waves' pre-reg which I have forgotten I got told about before and since I was deep in PGR, the world and concepts of wuwa have reminded me of one character in PGR (Selena, for anyone who's curious) and got so excited and thought they would put PGR characters on it or like a "same-y" lookalikes. The PGR community was sharing all sorts of arts and they got me more hyped than ever and then- The trailer drops. And I saw the unnamed Xiangli Yao in half a second. And immediately sealed the deal so much. I did got excited for the other male characters especially mrover but Yao. That ONE frame of Yao is my pushing point. And now he's near to get and FOR FREE, I couldn't stop thinking about him. Yao reminds me so much of Lee, design wise (Lee and Yao have polar opposite personalities btw XD). And having that soft personality at the event currently is honestly making me grovel. --- Kuro keeps surprising me with everything they do for wuwa right now. I never felt the need to rush anything, I got over the FOMO from Genshin, and just enjoyed the whole exploration and progression at my own pace. Plus, I'm inlove with the character designs in wuwa. Seeing the character designs they did in PGR made me excited on the take they do with the genre they are best familiar of.
I started with PGR but had to quit because my phone couldn't handle the latest updates. When I learned Kuro was making a game that was an open world gacha I jumped ship from Genshin. Because pf my experience with PGR, I knew Kuro Games would make a homerun. Now I'm playing Wuwa on PC and enjoying it.
The only 2 problems of wuwa to me is: 1) Even tho, echo farming is much easier, than arts in genshin, the problem with exp for it is still huge. You need to constantly play and grind for tuners and tubes. And, reading their posts, it's seems that they won't change it. And i won't have enough time this year...; 2)Very little on males... But, i have to admit, that where's much less "shota" males, so it's relief. Other than that - just optimization and waiting for 3/4 costs to have defence as secondary stat, because it's really bad, that defence scalers waste their attack, that they gain from this echos(yes, I'm deranged Yanwu and Taochi main, what about it?). I still play genshin from time to time, but i think i will be able to play only hsr from now on, to focus on uni better.
wuwa was really fun 1.0-1.1, i'm at UL 62+ almost maxed a character, cleared 23/30 tower. 100% exploration. but nowadays it's hard to keep my retention to play everyday in wuwa. i'm still waiting for that console release.
I installed Genshin first time around 4.0 and played it back and forth. It was definitely enjoyable, especially when it's my first open world. And then I as I play more, it progressively felt restrictive day by day. I played for like multiple months, and never completed any character. I wanted some characters that I missed and pre farmed them. But they never came back. Everything in the game feels like a chore. In the end I just fell out of love.
Chun hasn't been completely discarded. Some leaks have been going around that the Chun model is going to be used by whole new character. Leaks have also been saying she'll be a pistol character.
I started because: - better combat system - similar genre and formula - better treatment as a player - more endgame content (the rogue mode make every characters playable and viable and fun)
yes, a free 5* standard in 1.0 is way better than a free 5* standard in 5.0 since you are lacking unit at the start. And a free 5* limit in 1.2? Who could have think of that .
About the Chun model/design; Spoilers/Leaks, duhh but it's said that she will be slightly redesigned and improved. She will have a new name and new Weapon, originally sword and being Cameliya to her being her own Character and wielding the Pistols, apparently will be a limited Character as well. Not sure about that but if Kuro is re-using the model I'm happy, cuz I quite liked it as well.
This game was my most anticipated gacha ever since the announcement that kuro games is making an open world game. I played pgr and i know kuro are the biggest nier fanboys so i know i am gonna love the combat and dark story in wuwa.
@@craigtrish2011 i don't make it a thing, I am a China Player. It is hot news among the Chinese gaming community. That's because their companies have a relationship with each other like brother. If you don't believe it, you can check the fight between Jinshi againts Sentinel Yue and Wukong's fight against the white dragon. The attack patterns of that two dragon are 90% similar. Also they are the only company currently capable of making 3D Chinese dragon battle animations. And then the echo system in Wuwa is similar to Wukong , monsters can be absorbed using gourd-shaped bottles just like Wukong, and they can transform into a monster according to the monster what they absorb.
I love genshin but with almost zero improvement throughout the years I decided to stop. The poor anniversary rewards was also a deal breaker for me honestly, especially with not a single improvement from them. Although it does look like they are trying to change this year but it's far to late for me.
I played Genshin last yr for about 2 weeks, I was stuck at ar 30 or something and I can't continue with the quests anymore because I have low rank forcing me to do side questa that gives very little experience so I stopped. Played WuWa since it release and what i liked about it so far is at first, you get to choose a 5 star you wanted where im genshin i didnt manage to get even after 2 weeks, 2nd is its fast paced action with the dodge/parry thing, 3rd is the exploration quests, it literally takes you to nearest nexus in order to reveal a part of the map where in genshin it asked me to go to liyue and i couldn't go to it because its so far and the straight path is going through the water which is almost impossible to pass through and lastly the rewards, im so bad at gacha games that even with the 75/25 banner from weapon, i already knew im going to lose it where in wuwa weapon is guaranteed.... im more interested in WuWa mainly because its new so i wont be overwhelmed by the new things im gonna have to learn because the content of the game is still small
I came from PGR, started when it first released. I had fun with PGR but stopped due to low storage on my old phone( they were no PC port back then). Saw wuwa first trailer and I got hooked up immediately, liked their gameplay, didn't regret waiting for this game. I believed in kuro's passion about their games, with pgr qol changes, good gacha and character designs. I also don't have the energy to grind all day in MMO games anymore, so I said to myself maybe gacha games could help me to at least made me play games and doesn't requires me to waste all my energy in one day just farming for things. I played genshin, but I realized genshin didn't treat their players well so I played genshin for the sake of playing, not because it was fun. It felt too repetitive with their events, 3 hours yapping dialogues and 1 minute mediocore cutscene, an equivalent of 1 pull reward after completing a quest, bad rng on artifacts(farmed for diluc at least a year and 2 month to get a decent stats contribution) and farming in general.
Thought Jiyan was hot and after his quest started to love him even more, still giving him the princess treatment to this day. He's lvl70 -soon to be lvl80- with the best weapon and echoes i own at the moment and even ordered a tiny Jiyan plushie. No thoughts, just Jiyan.
I started cause i liked the Character Designs and Just wanted to See more Worlds (Like a Trainblazer-thingy). I also hoped that Genshin has a competitor, cause i still Like chilling in the Game and Watch the Sunset and build my teapot. So i wan't them to fix their Game/make it Player-Friendly I also Started Playing WuWa cause i feel like a *GOD* !!!! * 'Kyrie' plays * (Male protagonist is Cool) The Genshin Traveler is to weak as playable character (literaly the only 3*), and in the story + He/She is dumb. No Brain Up there. I mean, he *CAN* use His elements.. But Not in cutsceens for some odd reason!! I mean it's fine that He loses in battles, but.. He never even uses his abilitys!!!! Why??? I don't think He could Beat Someone Like Arlecchino even If He uses his other elements!! So why dosn't He try His best? Why does He put so little effort in every of thous battles?? Is He to lazy?? And with Story/the lore... Both Games are more or less dogshit with it. Yes you Heard me. Genshin's story is boring and hides context and lore, etc. Behind *limited* Events. I hope WuWa Won't do that... +WuWa only started so the story still can beat Genshin in the future Also WuWa has: •Wall Run/switching Characters while gliding/Graplinghook everywhere(while gliding) •better Combat (Focus/Dodge/Konter) •I Love the Character-Desgins •The Echo System (it's Artefacts+Pokémon XD) •The Bosses are way Cooler and more interasting to fight The only Thing i Love in Genshin are •The chill place/Music (my teapot Sunset) •The elemental reactions(Not the abilitys of the characters except Wanderer&Furina) •Character Desgins. Thats it WuWa has 5• Genshin only 3• Both Worlds Look Cool/Interasting/Calming. So i'll Play both until i lose every Last Hope i have for Genshin P.S. WuWa's Gatcha and reward System is much, much, much better then Genshin's P.S.2. I know of them Changing stuff with the Natlan Update(after *4* years). If it fixes it?... Probably not really. But is it good that they start changing? Yes!! And i Hope they keep on Changing (in a positive way) Only with Challenge a Child can grow.
Me who enjoy playing both game and hsr too I'm kinda happy bc of wu wa genshin finally started cooking so it's basically good for me more rewards more pulls more mommies
The unique gameplays brought by forte circuits and the core mechanics (e.g. parrying/dodging/dodge counter) got me hooked. With Genshin, I can't just level my character to Level 20 or 40 and play them somewhere. I'll get my ass whooped guaranteed. With Wuwa, I can pop my underdeveloped resonators in level 1 holograms and practice my dodging and parrying skills. I don't need to consume any healing potion. Just restart the challenge again and again until I get the hang of it and move on to the next level. That's something I have been frustrated with Genshin because I have interesting characters like Kaveh, Sayu and Keqing that I can't play because I don't have the time to grind for their stats and ascension. What's the point of pulling that many characters if you can't even enjoy playing any of them outside of occasional events? So yeah, too bad, but I'm probably quitting Genshin for good, but with Wuwa, I have high hopes for them. 🙏
I love that you like gayness 😂 I draw lots of fanarts of ships with Male rover and the male characters on Twitter and for some reason many people say "keep this nonsense in Genshin" even though I don't force my ships on anyone nor call it canon. That's why seeing someone who loves the male characters as much as me makes me happy 😊
i started playing cus i was originally a PGR player and then i heard the same devs were gonna make an open world game and i was locked in since the beta tests
Wuwa is saving genshin from itself. GI last patch is basically "We are afraid of wuwa eating our market share so he goes a free 5*". I think wuwa will have end game content only in 2.0. I'm expecting alot from Blackshore in 1.3 and 1.4, but 2.0 is where my expectations are. Also thanks Kuro for not using that atrocius GI model where everyone looks like kids, it's refreshing to have adults sober models (Changli is my fav easy). My biggest complain to wuwa is that the atrocious mechanic of 50/50 keeps screwing me. Give me a break lady luck.
12:06 rewards in genshin is like (I'll give you a crown use it wisely to upgrade your characters talents) wuwa don't have that +(weekly bosses drop 3 different mats, you'll be lucky for having the right ones, the weekly boss that you ONLY FIGHT ONCE IN A WEEK) wuwa don't have that
i came from genshin and i never hear about kurogame, but when i play wuwa and know how kuro treat their player... that's make me, "okay time to move on"
I've been keeping my eyes on wuwa since they start revealing it 2 years ago. and yeah, that was really worth the wait. It doesn't disappoint me, unlike genshin where they decided to just ignore the qte switching and perfect dodge from HI3. For a mobile games, HI3 and PGR combat is really good and I'm glad kuro keep their speciality on WuWa.
I was a genshin player originally but when there was hsr I quickly realized that genshin was really bad, whether in terms of its narrative quality, its generosity and its universe that many overestimate like something incredible. There are certainly beautiful moments but it doesn't go any further. So I deleted genshin. When there was Wuwa I expected a pale copy of Genshin but contrary to what people want you to believe, that is not the case. we find similar mechanics but they are only in exploration. for the rest, EVERYTHING is different. the lore which is much more mature, the game which has extremely pleasant gameplay which can be even better, a real difficulty which is difficult to find in other gacha (scar in the trying tower 😭) I also want to encourage Kurogames who is very attentive to his community since his old games and very motivated. They don't even hesitate to offer limited characters each year. in short definitely hsr and wuthering wave are and will remain the only gacha I will play until the release of the mugen project which also interests me enormously. I'm tired of hoyoverse games that only think about our money. one game is enough for me since the others don't offer anything different
First creator who mentiond wasn't able to clear all the content. Today they finaly did something about the ToA now a lot of my dodges were succesful but I wasn't even able to do the last stages. I was never able to do the level 100 bosses, even if I do it my damage is simply not enough although my dps characters are almost fully built. I don't care anymore. It's just frustration. Not enough resurces to build or upgrade echos, characters and weapons. Always runing out of shell credit...
you can beat the lvl 100 stuff but it takes a long time currently. i don't think you can level up characters and weapons to 100 yet. + i think the payoff is worth it when it comes to players often losing their shell creds because of like how much kuro gives out stuff already. it's more of like "endgame" content (as of now) you're at, so it isn't that surprising that you'd run out of creds at times.
Wuwa-PGR-HSR trio is insane rn. For open world, action instanced, and 3D turn based gachas. For TRPG I'd say Sword of Convallaria is killing it but, it might be recency bias.
As a dedicated HSR player, a now dedicated WuWa player, a Zehzhi Main, and someone who has played Genshin since 1.1, it genuinely just feels like Genshin kinda doesn't give af about its player due to lack of competition in the market. There's been QoL changes that players have been asking about for three years (almost four now) and Genshin is only just now doing damage control with 5.0 while still not really addressing the QoL issues. Overall, WuWa just feels really good, fluid, and has mechanics I can actually sink my teeth into with combat that makes me feel like I have to try, where as Genshin feels barebones, the movement and exploration really doesn't feel good, and the end game ranges from brainless, to pay-to-win. I just feel like Kuro appreciates me more as a player than Genshin. HSR feels very much the same way, like they are actually listening to players, where Genshin seems to think it can ride off it's no longer captive audience and now that it realizes it has competition, they're scrambling to salvage their player base in 5.0
WuWa has a decent story that seems to get better as it progresses While genshin just copy pasted the same 4 story points in different orders with different characters Go to new region Become a criminal Fight bad guys who have tragic back story and aren't actually bad guys Win final fight still lose the gnosis cuz plot
bro as soon as you talked about xin i remembered she is friends with me on valorant, she is a nice person but sadly one day in her discord vc i pissed her off and i kinda felt guilty af and didnt talk again. Its been many months even i forgot about it but you awakened my memory. Hope you guys are doing great.
The only reason i considered playing WuWa is because I play Punishing Gray Raven, although its a bit different in its overall gameplay mechanics it is quite enjoyable.
My reasons for playing and staying on WuWa: - Male Rover. - Interesting Story (direction). - No Stamina consumtion outside battle and ect. - Wallrunning and fun exploring. - Adults actually look like Adults. - GeshuLin. - Dodge and Parry. - All attack animations look so stunning, kuro always cooking ech Character. - Freebies. - Kuro respects my time and effort, and listens to the community.
I LOVE Characters with White hair Designs🤍. You can never have too many white haired characters 😊. Even Griffith is excellent Character design, .....damn you Griffith.....
I gave up on Genshin sometime mid Inazuma due to issues i alrrqdy had with the games grinding then i entirely stopped playing after obtaining Nahida there was too much grind an no reruns of events thay affected the story ever so slightly that bothered me it was like as if my account was ruined
WuWa and HSR is enough for me
yup for me too
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I started playing Wuwa as soon as I learned there's unique cinematics for getting 5 star in convene.Idk why but I feel rewarded after grinding.Unlike genshin where you get jpg with audio file attached..💀
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They didn't even have audio back then
At least those jpg match the character model right?right?
@@owenlee7146no
And the Audio is a recent addition lol
my reason is simple :
- no use stamina for running, can climb by running
- have more variation for attack combination
- more brutal attack effect
- have dodge and parry
- i'm a waifu collector and all of sexy female in wuwa are more skin revealing than genshin and consistent jiggling assets
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Litterally skill issue
@@ketansingh5220 how is that skill issue?
Need jiggle assets on the lower region of the models
@@ketansingh5220 keep coping and seething
In a toxic relationship with PGR for 3+ years now.
Im the toxic one...
...i see...
in a toxic relationship with gi for almost 4 years now.... were all the victims
Picked up PGR a week before WuWa...
My god PGR is the best gacha I ever played and I've been playing gachas since 2013.
Is pgr china only?@@zealgaming8161
@@nextteria the global server is behind 1 year but that is good since global players can open their third eye to plan their future pulls.
I spent at least 800 usd on genshin in just 6 months (gambling addiction) and i actually felt bad after. But with wuwa i’ve only spent about 50 dollars and i was able to get all limited 5stars and weapons except jinhsi and zhezhi so far. People sht on wuwa revenue but they dont realize people actually dont have to spend at all to get the characters they want (unless they wanna get everyone). Weapon banner alone explains why wuwa earns far less than hoyo games (80 pulls for guaranteed in wuwa and 270 pulls for genshin)
Spent more on PGR and WuWa latest 3 months then I have in Hoyo games last 3 years.
Something always felt off with Hoyo games, like the devs did not listen.
That's the Problem. Wuwa needs to make money so don't expect the generosity to last. If anything expect Backlast once WuWa can milk more from players.
Right now. They are desperately clawing at Market share from Genshin. I guarantee it's been a Money sink so far for them so it might take longer to even break even after the added cost of story rewrites.
@@silverhawkscape2677 Never played PGR have you? Just wait until they start releasing 40-60$ skins with full new animations, effects, voice lines and a event quest for the costume.
Did you know? Pgr and wuwa have different servers, in taiwan, japan, china and then the global audience. In china, it is acceptable to spend money, and I mean, spend a LOT of money on games(since it is considered a hobby I think?), and PGR and Wuwa get most of their revenue from these players. The global audience is just so that they can expand on their popularity, which in return will also still garner them more revenue.
Also, PGR and wuwa haven't even peaked yet, it's gonna be peak when it turns into a decade old(PGR for that matter:> )
13:00 In Wuthering Waves I lost all 3 of my 50/50 in 2 months of playing the game, but I still have: S0R1 Yinlin, S2R1 Changli (she made me broke), S1 Calcharo and S0 Verina (I got these two only a few days into the game), S1 Encore, one standard weapon and a box that can give me a standard 5 star weapon of my choice.
In Genshin Impact it took me 100+ hours to get a single 5 star character, Tighnari (Lost 50/50 again ;-;). Now after playing genshin for roughly the same ammount of time as WuWa I only have Tighnari, Keqing and Yelan.
As a F2P Wuthering Waves offers a million times better experience then Genshin in terms of being able to get the 5 stars I want in a reasonable ammount of time.
Btw did u notice that Genshin gives less in the chests in the wood chests it gives like 2-3 primos i think compared to wuwa lowest chest is like 5 i think. Even if u scrape every patch u can only get 60-70 pulls assuming theres a map release in genshin and if u want to try weapon banner and dont mind getting absolutely destroyed by it costs like 200+ if u unlucky. The Problem i have with genshin is that these days even if extremely invested characters lik neuv and furina and other strong supports its still fairly difficult to 36* abyss and hear this b4re they said they dont want to make a hard game eg: just put spongy boss and time-gate rewards. Skip back today and we get the Theatre... ppl who build wide can only clear it rlly aka Vets who stayed after grinding their souls into dust after 3 years... not sure if cant make a gamemode that bad but Surely Mihoyo knows the way lol at least we dont need perfect clears just clear the stage so ehh ok i guess tbh why they even add elemental restrictions? it just breaks the flow of the game.
@@LimC.A nah wuwa got more powercreep in 1.1 than genshin, in genshin 4.8 strong characters are the same as 1.0 with some additions, xiangling and bennett never leave my teams, if i didn't had furina i'd use xingqiu, neuvillette is only good because he's braindead to use and has a lot of QoL and self sustain (and is pretty easy to build), but i can go to genshin right here right now, pull out my childe kazuha bennett xiangling team (its a 1.6 team and it has a sucrose variant which clears similarly), and still clear this current abyss cycle, there's more viable characters, but it doesn't mean you can't clear with literal 1.0 stuff
as for chests, genshin chests are 2 per chest min, but in wuwa there's way less chests i get 2 chests on wuwa and its already like a 3% of the area, in genshin i do the same its not even 1%, so there's less per chest, but there's definitely a lot more chests fr
@@LimC.A lots of tryhards asked for it, and now they don't wanna play is how I see it.
The thing about Kuro's love for White hair characters comes in PGR tho with Alpha, Liv, Wanshi and Karerina being Op and Treated so well that they make the Playerbase love these White Haired characters
I mean they are fans of DMC and NIER so theres that and their love of Twin pigtail characters that they give some love for their own characters
ooooh i see it now that makes sense
But boy, chalcaro and lingyang was not that op sadly :"
I played WuWa because my time for games was getting low, and genshin keep wanting more time which just made me lazy to play..
In wuwa, the combat feels faster and movement was fast too. it's easy and fast to build characters too, it makes my free time on playing games much more enjoyable. not to mention, the skip button being there really helps when playing world quests.
thats true, i get you
true especially i only have my mobile phone because it gets too hot from using too much and playing genshin is pain in the ass my phone is hot already while farming and im still not getting enough i dont want to ruin my phone this is the only i have meanwhile in wuwa everything feels so faster the combat the movement and damn im enjoying every bit of it the combat is just too astounding
same with me, can playing game just at night and in the weekend, wuwa has system that we can saving more waveplate, so its really helpful
Some of the events too are not much of a time gated event. Like the festival event right now. Perfect for me, who sometimes don't have time to play games cause I'm a student
@@yuu23163 oh yeah i think that's not mentioned enough, you're right
My reasons are simple.
Adults look like adults, instead of stretches out kids before fontaine.
All the action combat features like enemy poise, parry, intro/outro.
I still play Genshin super casually, so it's fine as long as I play genshin before WuWa, not after. Playing Genshin after WuWa in the day feels like a turtle struggling uphill.
on the adults looking like adults, kuro currently has a 2/2 record of confirming that the child-like characters are children!
A comic confirms verina to be 12 and in a main story quest encore says “Uncle Aalto likes playing pranks on us kids...” the keyword there being us! :3
@@polaroyde Kuro W, not making Encore 2313 y/o demon loli.
@@FutayuriShironeko its fine as long as you don't sexuallize characters, it starts being a problem when the 3000yo toddler has provocative clothing and such, but genshin is not like that, klee is a kid, even when nahida is 500yo thats on archon terms she's essentially a child for the race too and is not sexuallized either, and the list goes on with diona sayu etc
@@NFYT to each their own.
I simply don't like 500 y/o child trope as a whole, them getting sexualized is a problematic on another level.
@@FutayuriShironeko yeah but then again with characters like nahida it totally makes sense, (spoilers tho), she's the literal reincarnation of a god, and it serves narratively bc of al the shit that happened in sumeru, so that i can accept bc 1. Its not used as an excuse for "its okay to sexuallize this character", its used for literal plot, 2, its never said that she's not a children matter of fact in the whole sumeru storyline you can see how she's naive and lacks a lot of basic knowledge, so even when she's "500yo", its for plot and nothing more, which i really like, if its done good then im good with it, we don't have to go like all negative about it when its used in this particular way, NOW anything else? Go to jail freak
It's pretty simple, they treated their players badly then obviously once a new game that treats their players better and deliver a game just as good or maybe even better then of course common sense those people would switch, *UNLESS* one is in Stockholm syndrome, too deep in Sunk cost or a kid that thinks Genshin is the best gacha game ever
you're probably right
Genshin switched directors! The previous director was the same one from Honkai Impact's early days and gave awful rewards.
@@batches3526 so you're telling me its gonna get worse?
@@Glaivekiyo with the new director the game is gonna be better than ever, you can already see with the sheer generosity from the recent 5.0 Livestream
@@batches3526 That has nohing to do with the director and everything to do with Wuwa being a direct competitor. If they gave a sht about the players they wouldn't have waited 5 years.
I decided to try wuwa because of the good experiences I had from playing pgr. The gacha and gameplay on pgr feels rewarding and so far wuwa does not disappoint on that regard.
I actually started playing genshin after playing wuwa and my god the early game experience here sucks. It's so much grindy and you barely get any rewards after playing for that much time. Seems like they just kept everything the way it was during its release 4 years ago
now that i look at it, you're right. everything was so resin gated, even the main story quest was locked behind a specific adventure rank.
The chest primogem rewards too. Before the primogem in common chest is 5 now it's 2, and the exquisite chest 10 before but now it's 5. It is effective in old maps like mondstadt and liyue. It sucks
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@@yuu23163Was it though? Any Proof it was 5 for a Common chest before?
Edit: Looked up the Wiki. Turns out higher chest rewards are from higher scaling areas. Doesn't look like they changed chest rewards. People would notice.
Can't say I left Genshin for WuWa since I only last in Genshin until 1.1 😂
Real reason tho, I just randomly stumbled upon WuWa's pre-reg page from somewhere. Got curious, pre-reg, then actually forgot about it until near launch date, then tried it to at least got the pre-reg bonuses. FRover immediately caught my attention, but the harem isekai protag vibe at the start almost put me off, but then the wall-running and Crownless fight sealed the deal for me.
Note: GGZ is Guns Girl Z, or Houkai Gakuen 2. It's MHY game before they made HI3
idk why i always loved the harem genre because of how ridiculously unrealistic it is
@@Glaivekiyoit's like watching a horror moive, it’s terrible quality (more often than not) but you just can't look away.
The reason I started playing WuWa is because I want to try playing open-world gacha games like Genshin, it's just that Genshin (and others) have too much content to catch up on and I don't like the feeling of being left behind. 😆 So when I heard about WuWa, I pre-registered, and now we're here. 🙂↕️✨
I started because it looked very interesting and everyone was talking about it. I kept playing because i feel treated well and the atmosphere is more mature. It's a game for grownups, not kids like genshin. I am tired of helping stupid frogs or some fairy tail creature in genshin... making kites or just messing around for some commission...i would like to feel part of a story, i want to feel the danger, i want to fight a real menace. This is wuwa! Not to mention the satisfaction of the fight sounds....sweet. 🎉
I really like the fact that enemies can fight each other (it actually gives open-world vibe). The gameplay if all the characters (even the ones I don't like) is just so easy on the eyes - Jinhsi is my most favourite (she's my main). I am just hoping and praying scar becomes playable.
I'm just baffled that a lot of genshin players often join group for wuwa just to complain but in fact they're not even playing it.
And most in genshin group that defending wuwa are just some old players like me😂😂
I saw this one guy joined every wuwa group just to complain..
I swear I'm laughing everytime I saw his comment.. I will immediately reply to him why are you everywhere? 😂😂😂
i just don't like Games with many child-looking characters, that's why i only play HSR & WuWa ❤ They're the perfect Combo in Gacha
What a weird thing to say when Verina, Encore and now Yuohu exists... there will probably be more later on.
@GreyIsolet genshin has a ton of lolis and even some of the male characters look like kids lol
@@GreyIsolet What a Weird thing to say when you can't even mention HSR kids Clara, Bailu & Hook and just biasly mention only WuWa. You're pretty obvious Hoyo bot.
@@GreyIsolet If you noticed All Characters of Genshin are child-like as they were designed to have BIGGER HEADS in comparison to their body ratio in the game. That's because they started the game rated 12+ to cater to kids.
Even your favorite Raiden Shogun and Yae Miko look like kids having bigger heads in comparison to their bodies.
They just look mature to you because of the banner drawings and Redrawing Twitter Posts and editing to look mature but in-game, when you play them they literally look like kids with Big heads signifying Baby-like body structure.
@@GreyIsoleti think what he meant is that even the adult models have child like features. Like if you look closely to adult charas like raiden, yae and other characters their face looks childish.
i started WuWa bcz I quit genshin a good while ago, so I only played H:SR which takes 5~10mins a day max + it looked fun to play.
EDIT: oh, female rover, baizhi, jianxin (best standard), yinlin and changli were a big invitiation for me.
Same here, i actually left genshin for hsr
Wuwa was just the last nail in the coffin that gave me no reason to get back to GI
@@Kiyosandwicheater i tried genshin again, i literally cant play it anymore. the slow traversal, no dodge, no grappling hook. limited stamina, and the biggest reason of all, no skip dialogue option
@@EmperorIcePenguin same with me, you know genshin want to give free 5 star standard char, so I installed again for that, and it feels so lame, the combat system, exploration, ect
@@gumiwanguang and the difficulty of exploring. some chests/hydroculus are hidden behind hours upon hours of world quests (f.e. aranara or fontaine quest) or you have to do some bullshit puzzle that makes no damn sense for it to be there.
@@EmperorIcePenguin oh yes all that stuffs, back then I'm so excited to finished aranara quest, and got all the culus from all region, but now I've lost interest
I have anticipated WUWA ever since kuro announced it's making since 2021.
A lot of us came from PGR. Not sure though if like half of the 30 million pre-registered are PGR players...
Calcharo's companion quest will happen in New Federation.
I just hope they make him good again😢
@@christiabayu3325 he's a standard unit with high skill ceiling he is not bad he is just hard to use.
It took 4 years from launch for Genshin to release their first standard five-star selector. It took 3 days after launch for Wuthering Waves to release their second.
don't forget the fact that the meta were now all over the place, the only useful standard characters now are Mona and Tighnari. and putting Dehya in the selector itself is already an insult 💀
@@a4arick106 keqing is as viable as tighnari even more with C6 fischl, diluc is a great plunge DPS that got buffed twice with furina dna xianyun, jean is the 2nd best anemo healer for furina other than xianyun (a literal limited character), only dehya and qiqi are truly useless, and dehya will have some use with mualanbi and lyney with interruption RES, you is definitely tripping
@@NFYT stop coping please. You have WAY better options now. If it was 2 or 3 years ago I would agree with you but right now unless you miss someone nobody cares
@@NFYT Tighnari and Keqing have really weird split scalings and have more than two stats to optimize for.
Diluc plunge is more of a niche and not really that effective
Jean is good but there are better teammates for Furina like Kokomi or C6 Noelle
Mona is just good for screenshot damage and she's no longer effective for two years now.
Qiqi is useless as always
Dehya is crap at low cons and deals as much damage as a decently-invested Xiangling at high cons
There are just better options now even if you're an F2P.
@@NFYT "keqing is viable as tighnari", You are way better to use Kuki Shinobu than Keqing in this current meta because having off -field electro applicator is way better to play around dendro elemental reaction. Heck using Fischl can even make Kuki's burst far more broken than Keqing. And Dehya herself literally needs a rework rather than getting characters that can compliment her kits, because of how shitty her burst is (you literally spam one button even during bosses, no matter what the condition is, otherwise even jumping literally cancels her ult 💀) might as well be better off with some better 4-star Pyro DPS like Yanfei because she is far more consistent in terms of the internal cooldown of applying Pyro while not having DPS-Loss in your rotation.
Diluc being 2nd best plunge is legit your own coping mechanism because Gaming is far better as Plunge DPS than Diluc, and easier to get the cons with way more viable 4-star weapons for him than Diluc, and even MORE BROKEN with Xianyun in the the party.
Jean's the best anemo healer, while having an anemo healer in this current meta is already stupid. Especially when most of the time you are already having a far more useful healer with useful elements like Hydro, (Barbara herself compliments with Furina way more than Jean because of both being Hydro and managed to reach full stack with her heal) and with Anemo meta being nothing more than Swirl if you're not using Kazuha, most likely people will look the other alternatives for healer, and people who already got Furina didn't even need healer. So you're the one actually coping hard.
I might left Genshin for Wuwa but I am still playing HSR
HSR is in a league of its own
HSR is good
WE MUST STAY FOCUS!!
I quit genshin for WuWa because:
1. No artifact farming but rather echo farming which can be done while exploration, killing 2 birds with 1 stone.
I can prioritise my waveplates for mats that are guaranteed compared to something rng like artifacts.
2. I wanted a fight that is more dynamic
Started to like games with dynamic fights when I played Horizon Forbidden West while I had no internet for a few weeks. After playing that and head back to Genshin, I felt the fights in the game being more and more restricting. So, I searched all over for a game that has dynamic fights till WuWa came out.
What got me in was MRover. But then the fight started and I realized that I found the game I've been looking for. Now I play both PGR Aand WuWa while quitting every other game I had before.
No Daily-Dependant Weapon and Talent materials where if you not on the right day or at least Sunday, you wish you could change days just so to get the weapon/talen mats you wanted 💀
@@a4arick106 This. No one mentions it but its such a big deal i hate being gatekept by irl time when im already gated by the damn stamina. I cant explain how many times i wanted to farm something but it wasnt the day so i forget it and couple days later i remember to farm it just to see its second day in the week has been passed too... fuck that shit
I didn’t quit genshin at all been playing for 2 years and I’m still satisfied with the game and it’s phasing majority of the players who complain are just people who don’t touch grass or don’t have a real job (content creators) plus people who treat playing a game like a relationship with someone is just dumb I don’t think there should be any reason for a game to make you feel rewarded just in order to keep playing it ,just play it if you like it or else take a brake or completely quit and there’s no objective answer to which game is better cause it’s just personal preference at the end of the day just because you like heck slash it doesn’t mean everyone likes heck slash.
tbh, my reasons for starting and continuing to play wuwa is simple, combat, its just on a another level
and also a skip button, my precious
If you're ALREADY tired of white hair.... boy, I got news for you xD Out of the 63 characters in PGR (Kuro's other game) 26 of them have white hair xD If we add grey-ish hair this number jumps up to 33 xD
Kuro LOVES their monochrome, black, white, grey are their main colors, throw in some colorful highlights and that's Kuro's design philosophy in a nutshell and they sure as hell won't change that xD
That actually so rare in games (at least the ones I have played). Most games have the complete opposite colour palette (vibrant, pastel, even neon sometimes). Kuro's games are kinda like a breath of fresh air.
I find it unfortunate that wuwa is getting horrendously laggy for my phone. But before that, it was amazing.. the generosity, animations, gameplay and no doubt.. THE STAMINA SYTEM.. FINALLY I DONT HAVE TO WALK AFTER DRAINING MY STAMINA EVERY 2 SECONDS
I started playing WuWa because I was like "Oh, pretty character designs, looks fun and I want a new open world to play!" since I was burned out from Genshin (dropped it) and was starting to get bored of HSR too
Staying because of Scar, Yinlin, Yuanwu and Jinhsi (my beloveds, I am so surprised no other character have caught my eye besides these. I'm usually very easy to fetch but GYATT these four have my heart and sould)
Played wuwa for jiyan and lingyang (because I saw tanjiro's Japanese VA playing it and he voices lingyang so I have to play it! XD). Also, dancing tortoise lmao
Also, I'm a Baizhi lover (aside from being a current Changli simp, ahem) I'm ok not having Verina yet because of her ❤
@@jk_4V4baizhi the goat frfr
Played Genshin when it was released but felt exhausted coz of the dailies and some exploration mechanics like slowly climbing walls so, I quit after a month of playing.
I'm glad I haven't felt anything like that for WuWa. ❤
hoyo has built a strong gaming community for their game over the past 4-5 years, genshin may have its problems but it is very strong and wide so it is still in the top 10 in revenue. what i want to say here is that the number of players quitting the game seems to be very small compared to the number of players staying, wuwa doesn't seem to be a threat to genshin right now but over time the fandom may grow even stronger, i can see that in order to stop that growth hoyo had to change genshin in a more positive direction to retain players
the top revenue is just Hoyo passing around their income to their 3 games, kinda like how a company passing around their stock market to investors, to monopolize the market so that the public saw them as the immovable object that always on top.
@@a4arick106that's their plan, create so many games in every genre so they can dominate all the market which is scummy and won't end well. They're developing an Animal Crossing game and an MMO apparently
@@sojirou.kThey're NOT only creating games to cover every genre. They're creating *A TOP QUALITY* games to cover every genre. That's why I'm very confident with Hoyoverse.
@@mori1332 I don't think keeping everything resin(energy) gated is high quality gameplay though. If you haven't noticed, nobody new played ZZZ. Their bad reputation with Genshin is definitely affecting them.
@@RKNancy sounds like you never played gacha game because that's a pretty normal thing. +The system continues to receive improvement. Did you know that it literally takes less than 30 seconds to complete your dailies in Genshin? All I want to say is the time gated progressions are the core of EVERY GACHA game. Genshin ACTUAL content is the massive beautiful and diverse open world. With every region having a distinct exploration mechanic and TOP TIER MUSIC to accompany you. I'm not here to shit on WuWa because the game is still new and also I play the game too.
Only the leftover losers ended up leaving Genshin for Wuwa. The rest of us chads play BOTH. Shows in the market performance. I mean ZZZ makes so much more and catching up so much more heat. Anyways enjoy WuWa while it lasts! Before you know it, they'll eventually release Changli in a summer swimsuit just to survive a la ToF XD
endgame is clearing lv90 holograms with verina
the problem is, female rover loses interm of eyelash from male rover.
like both tho, still choose female for a reason.
i like how rover was cunning inside, and not clueless even tho they lost their memories.
THIS! i love how the rover actually has a personality... and not just whatever the traveller has going on, they’re two different people (unlike with hsr or wuwa, where its the exact same person but genderswapped) make it distinct! so much missed potential.
each patch, they talk more frequently
•Basic reasons
- bit better and realistic graphics then genshin
- unique combat style with counter option + easy exploration
•Main reason
-Every 5 star characters have different level of uniqueness in their playstyle example - jinshi and changli (more to come in future)
- kuro games gives more to their players then hoyo. (free 5 star character + weapon for new players with 50 standard wishes)
- you don't have to worry about lose in weapon banner weapons are guarented in this game you heard me right
- Echos they're basically the artifact's of wuwa but since they in games mobs you always are excited about collecting different different echoes you can even take bosses as your echo more importantly they can be used in combat
Former PGR commandant. Had to drop it because I ran out of storage on my phone and I don't like the 3-ping system on PC. Currently playing both Genshin and WuWa. Competition is good. For now, Genshin > WuWa because of the top quality production. Maybe someday WuWa will reach the same standard. One day... 🙏🏻
One reason I played WuWa..
For combat, I once played Genshin, I liked the idea of Open-world but I felt that the combat was bad, so I uninstalled it..then a year later WuWa was announced, from hearing the things about the "combat" I played it instantly..Anw, thx Kuro!!!
Picked up WuWa and PGR at the same time and both are amazing games but PGR is a few years old and thus has so much more story and content. Really really good story too.
Everyone who likes WuWa and wanna try a new gacha, give PGR a try! It's really bad at the first chapters, but the game really get much much better as you continue your progress!
Day 1 genshin player here.
The biggest factors for me were movement and generosity.
I play a lot of warframe so movement is very important to me. If movement is power, then warframe and wuwa make you feel incredibly powerful.
As for the second part, it wasn't wuwa's generosity that put me off genshin, it was genshin trying to be generous after all these years.
Improvements to genshin's artifact rng, wish system, bunch of qol stuff, and rewards overall (free pulls and the 5 star selector) are coming soon.
It just made me realize that yeah, they have always been capable of doing these things, they just never chose to. It's like a toxic ex trying to better themselves to win you over again only after you've found someone else. Genshin has been complacent for too long and it's a shitty feeling watching them change now.
I'm happy for the genshin players for these changes and i might log in to play the story in the future again, but i'm not interested in spending dolphin money nor the extra time to grind for pulls anymore. I don't even know if i'm interested enough to log in for the selector.
As for wuwa, seeing as how the devs are pretty similar to the warframe devs with the way they actually listen (us getting qol updates without waiting 3 years), i might stick around unless the devs change faces.
1000% agree with the genshin 4th anniversary rewards situation. It feels like a slap on the face tbh. Standard banner character selector is such a joke for older players. It took 4 years for genshin to give a free standard 5 star while other games give you a permanent standard banner selector on the release itself and only take barely one year to give a *limited* 5 star character (often the first anniversary).
You literally get the improvements you wanted and now feel worst tht Genshin Implemented it? Really?
And the game just got a New Director after Cai moved to America branch. Da Wei is now in control and the one in charge of HSR.
Don't think genshin improved only because of WuWa despite the massive revenue difference between the two. It's more likely the director change from Cai who is incredibly stingy vs Da Wei who is in charge of HSR and HI3rd that is now giving.
Seriously there's no winning. Either Genshin does nothing and complain. Or Genshin Improves and complain harder calling them a toxic X.
@@_butter.cup_ Except it's every year for Genshin at this point.
Honestly with Da Wei at the helm now as Director for Genshin. I think things will change a lot.
And no. People are exaggerating how unusable the 5 star selector Is.
@@silverhawkscape2677 It’s not exaggeration. You are just coping.
Edit: I don’t mean to provoke you with this comment. After bare minimum “rewards” that genshin has given in the past, genshin-only players will accept any free stuff at this point.
I always wanted to play ginshin but it was very expensive for me and ginshin does not listen to playbase . Wuwa is not expensive f2p friendly and Kuro games Appreciate their player base
Wuwa has just started so yeah they need more time for end story
One of the very first PGR player during global launch I just stop cuz my phone can't handle the graphics started playing again wth both games now that I have a powerful phone
Companion story for standard characters like
Encore, yangyang and other will come to wuwa.
(It was in a leak wirhin the game files.)
amen
I play to enjoy. Not to maximize builds to beat 100% endgame 😂
whats the point of that anyway am i right
My build is trash in wuwa but I can still defeat enemies very quickly. very relaxing game
the minecraft parkour actually helped w my goldfish attention span
Sorry for the a whole novel reply lol :')
I came from PGR, though I just started playing just last year in December, and that was around the time I've already been so sick of Genshin (and anything Hyv related. Never touched HSR) and got me hooked because of that one character (Lee Hyperreal had me on a chokehold).
After a few months, I only noticed the announcement for Wuthering Waves' pre-reg which I have forgotten I got told about before and since I was deep in PGR, the world and concepts of wuwa have reminded me of one character in PGR (Selena, for anyone who's curious) and got so excited and thought they would put PGR characters on it or like a "same-y" lookalikes. The PGR community was sharing all sorts of arts and they got me more hyped than ever and then-
The trailer drops. And I saw the unnamed Xiangli Yao in half a second. And immediately sealed the deal so much. I did got excited for the other male characters especially mrover but Yao. That ONE frame of Yao is my pushing point. And now he's near to get and FOR FREE, I couldn't stop thinking about him. Yao reminds me so much of Lee, design wise (Lee and Yao have polar opposite personalities btw XD). And having that soft personality at the event currently is honestly making me grovel.
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Kuro keeps surprising me with everything they do for wuwa right now. I never felt the need to rush anything, I got over the FOMO from Genshin, and just enjoyed the whole exploration and progression at my own pace. Plus, I'm inlove with the character designs in wuwa. Seeing the character designs they did in PGR made me excited on the take they do with the genre they are best familiar of.
I started with PGR but had to quit because my phone couldn't handle the latest updates. When I learned Kuro was making a game that was an open world gacha I jumped ship from Genshin. Because pf my experience with PGR, I knew Kuro Games would make a homerun. Now I'm playing Wuwa on PC and enjoying it.
The only 2 problems of wuwa to me is:
1) Even tho, echo farming is much easier, than arts in genshin, the problem with exp for it is still huge. You need to constantly play and grind for tuners and tubes. And, reading their posts, it's seems that they won't change it. And i won't have enough time this year...;
2)Very little on males... But, i have to admit, that where's much less "shota" males, so it's relief.
Other than that - just optimization and waiting for 3/4 costs to have defence as secondary stat, because it's really bad, that defence scalers waste their attack, that they gain from this echos(yes, I'm deranged Yanwu and Taochi main, what about it?). I still play genshin from time to time, but i think i will be able to play only hsr from now on, to focus on uni better.
I just played wuwa because I enjoy PGR, and Kuro makes fun combat. I quit genshin near the last patch of Inazuma and haven't gone back.
I saw a random video with Jiyan a few days after launch and my gay heart skipped a beat.
wuwa was really fun 1.0-1.1, i'm at UL 62+ almost maxed a character, cleared 23/30 tower. 100% exploration. but nowadays it's hard to keep my retention to play everyday in wuwa. i'm still waiting for that console release.
I installed Genshin first time around 4.0 and played it back and forth. It was definitely enjoyable, especially when it's my first open world. And then I as I play more, it progressively felt restrictive day by day. I played for like multiple months, and never completed any character. I wanted some characters that I missed and pre farmed them. But they never came back. Everything in the game feels like a chore. In the end I just fell out of love.
Chun hasn't been completely discarded. Some leaks have been going around that the Chun model is going to be used by whole new character. Leaks have also been saying she'll be a pistol character.
I started because:
- better combat system
- similar genre and formula
- better treatment as a player
- more endgame content (the rogue mode make every characters playable and viable and fun)
this isn't tiktok you can remove the minecraft gameplay please not all of us have ADHD
these people play games with skip buttons. They do have ADHD
i have adhd, every time i feel like clicking off i see the minecraft gameplay. zero in on that shit like a hawk
yes, a free 5* standard in 1.0 is way better than a free 5* standard in 5.0 since you are lacking unit at the start. And a free 5* limit in 1.2? Who could have think of that .
It was stated that chun's design was gonna be improved and released as a seperate character from camellya
15:20 the loading screen on phone now is fast
About the Chun model/design;
Spoilers/Leaks, duhh but it's said that she will be slightly redesigned and improved. She will have a new name and new Weapon, originally sword and being Cameliya to her being her own Character and wielding the Pistols, apparently will be a limited Character as well. Not sure about that but if Kuro is re-using the model I'm happy, cuz I quite liked it as well.
This game was my most anticipated gacha ever since the announcement that kuro games is making an open world game. I played pgr and i know kuro are the biggest nier fanboys so i know i am gonna love the combat and dark story in wuwa.
Has anyone noticed that the combat system in Wuthering Wave is similar to the Black Mith Wukong which has just been released now? 😳
Both games are just general action based combat games. There isn't some weird conspiracy behind it. Don't know why you're trying to make it a thing
@@craigtrish2011 i don't make it a thing, I am a China Player. It is hot news among the Chinese gaming community. That's because their companies have a relationship with each other like brother. If you don't believe it, you can check the fight between Jinshi againts Sentinel Yue and Wukong's fight against the white dragon. The attack patterns of that two dragon are 90% similar. Also they are the only company currently capable of making 3D Chinese dragon battle animations. And then the echo system in Wuwa is similar to Wukong , monsters can be absorbed using gourd-shaped bottles just like Wukong, and they can transform into a monster according to the monster what they absorb.
Being an old PGR veteran the moment Kuro released news about WUWA, all of us old Kuro Dogs know that Kuro indeed will cook.
I love genshin but with almost zero improvement throughout the years I decided to stop. The poor anniversary rewards was also a deal breaker for me honestly, especially with not a single improvement from them. Although it does look like they are trying to change this year but it's far to late for me.
WuWa is just better
I played Genshin last yr for about 2 weeks, I was stuck at ar 30 or something and I can't continue with the quests anymore because I have low rank forcing me to do side questa that gives very little experience so I stopped.
Played WuWa since it release and what i liked about it so far is at first, you get to choose a 5 star you wanted where im genshin i didnt manage to get even after 2 weeks, 2nd is its fast paced action with the dodge/parry thing, 3rd is the exploration quests, it literally takes you to nearest nexus in order to reveal a part of the map where in genshin it asked me to go to liyue and i couldn't go to it because its so far and the straight path is going through the water which is almost impossible to pass through and lastly the rewards, im so bad at gacha games that even with the 75/25 banner from weapon, i already knew im going to lose it where in wuwa weapon is guaranteed.... im more interested in WuWa mainly because its new so i wont be overwhelmed by the new things im gonna have to learn because the content of the game is still small
I came from PGR, started when it first released. I had fun with PGR but stopped due to low storage on my old phone( they were no PC port back then). Saw wuwa first trailer and I got hooked up immediately, liked their gameplay, didn't regret waiting for this game. I believed in kuro's passion about their games, with pgr qol changes, good gacha and character designs.
I also don't have the energy to grind all day in MMO games anymore, so I said to myself maybe gacha games could help me to at least made me play games and doesn't requires me to waste all my energy in one day just farming for things.
I played genshin, but I realized genshin didn't treat their players well so I played genshin for the sake of playing, not because it was fun. It felt too repetitive with their events, 3 hours yapping dialogues and 1 minute mediocore cutscene, an equivalent of 1 pull reward after completing a quest, bad rng on artifacts(farmed for diluc at least a year and 2 month to get a decent stats contribution) and farming in general.
I'm still playing Gen im and zzz but I'm completely f2p on them, WuWa and honkai railing the stars are my main games
Thought Jiyan was hot and after his quest started to love him even more, still giving him the princess treatment to this day. He's lvl70 -soon to be lvl80- with the best weapon and echoes i own at the moment and even ordered a tiny Jiyan plushie. No thoughts, just Jiyan.
I started cause i liked the Character Designs and Just wanted to See more Worlds (Like a Trainblazer-thingy).
I also hoped that Genshin has a competitor, cause i still Like chilling in the Game and Watch the Sunset and build my teapot. So i wan't them to fix their Game/make it Player-Friendly
I also Started Playing WuWa cause i feel like a *GOD* !!!! * 'Kyrie' plays *
(Male protagonist is Cool)
The Genshin Traveler is to weak as playable character (literaly the only 3*), and in the story + He/She is dumb. No Brain Up there. I mean, he *CAN* use His elements..
But Not in cutsceens for some odd reason!! I mean it's fine that He loses in battles, but.. He never even uses his abilitys!!!! Why??? I don't think He could Beat Someone Like Arlecchino even If He uses his other elements!! So why dosn't He try His best? Why does He put so little effort in every of thous battles?? Is He to lazy??
And with Story/the lore... Both Games are more or less dogshit with it.
Yes you Heard me. Genshin's story is boring and hides context and lore, etc. Behind *limited* Events. I hope WuWa Won't do that... +WuWa only started so the story still can beat Genshin in the future
Also WuWa has:
•Wall Run/switching Characters while gliding/Graplinghook everywhere(while gliding)
•better Combat (Focus/Dodge/Konter)
•I Love the Character-Desgins
•The Echo System (it's Artefacts+Pokémon XD)
•The Bosses are way Cooler and more interasting to fight
The only Thing i Love in Genshin are •The chill place/Music (my teapot Sunset)
•The elemental reactions(Not the abilitys of the characters except Wanderer&Furina)
•Character Desgins.
Thats it
WuWa has 5•
Genshin only 3•
Both Worlds Look Cool/Interasting/Calming.
So i'll Play both until i lose every Last Hope i have for Genshin
P.S. WuWa's Gatcha and reward System is much, much, much better then Genshin's
P.S.2. I know of them Changing stuff with the Natlan Update(after *4* years). If it fixes it?... Probably not really. But is it good that they start changing? Yes!! And i Hope they keep on Changing (in a positive way)
Only with Challenge a Child can grow.
I played pgr for "chill game" while waiting for the next patch of wuwa but now I got addicted 😆
Hey thanks for the minecraft parkour, really helped me focus
Me who enjoy playing both game and hsr too I'm kinda happy bc of wu wa genshin finally started cooking so it's basically good for me more rewards more pulls more mommies
Combat is the answer: Genshin's combat sucks and giving out a standard 5* NOW that every single limited 5* powercreeps them is literally useless lol
The unique gameplays brought by forte circuits and the core mechanics (e.g. parrying/dodging/dodge counter) got me hooked. With Genshin, I can't just level my character to Level 20 or 40 and play them somewhere. I'll get my ass whooped guaranteed. With Wuwa, I can pop my underdeveloped resonators in level 1 holograms and practice my dodging and parrying skills. I don't need to consume any healing potion. Just restart the challenge again and again until I get the hang of it and move on to the next level. That's something I have been frustrated with Genshin because I have interesting characters like Kaveh, Sayu and Keqing that I can't play because I don't have the time to grind for their stats and ascension. What's the point of pulling that many characters if you can't even enjoy playing any of them outside of occasional events? So yeah, too bad, but I'm probably quitting Genshin for good, but with Wuwa, I have high hopes for them. 🙏
I love that you like gayness 😂
I draw lots of fanarts of ships with Male rover and the male characters on Twitter and for some reason many people say "keep this nonsense in Genshin" even though I don't force my ships on anyone nor call it canon. That's why seeing someone who loves the male characters as much as me makes me happy 😊
i started playing cus i was originally a PGR player and then i heard the same devs were gonna make an open world game and i was locked in since the beta tests
Wuwa is saving genshin from itself. GI last patch is basically "We are afraid of wuwa eating our market share so he goes a free 5*".
I think wuwa will have end game content only in 2.0. I'm expecting alot from Blackshore in 1.3 and 1.4, but 2.0 is where my expectations are. Also thanks Kuro for not using that atrocius GI model where everyone looks like kids, it's refreshing to have adults sober models (Changli is my fav easy).
My biggest complain to wuwa is that the atrocious mechanic of 50/50 keeps screwing me. Give me a break lady luck.
At least the wuwa weapon banner gives you a guaranteed weapon!!
12:06 rewards in genshin is like (I'll give you a crown use it wisely to upgrade your characters talents) wuwa don't have that +(weekly bosses drop 3 different mats, you'll be lucky for having the right ones, the weekly boss that you ONLY FIGHT ONCE IN A WEEK) wuwa don't have that
i came from genshin and i never hear about kurogame, but when i play wuwa and know how kuro treat their player... that's make me, "okay time to move on"
3:14
Me: *looks at Liv, Alpha, Luna, Wanshi, Karenina, Sophia, Haicma, No. 21*
Yea they do
LOL i see
theres a speculation that chun(camellyas old model) will become a new character and will be a 5 star gun user
I've been keeping my eyes on wuwa since they start revealing it 2 years ago. and yeah, that was really worth the wait.
It doesn't disappoint me, unlike genshin where they decided to just ignore the qte switching and perfect dodge from HI3.
For a mobile games, HI3 and PGR combat is really good and I'm glad kuro keep their speciality on WuWa.
Real endgame for WuWa might be what PGR has. Babel tower.
I was a genshin player originally but when there was hsr I quickly realized that genshin was really bad, whether in terms of its narrative quality, its generosity and its universe that many overestimate like something incredible. There are certainly beautiful moments but it doesn't go any further. So I deleted genshin. When there was Wuwa I expected a pale copy of Genshin but contrary to what people want you to believe, that is not the case. we find similar mechanics but they are only in exploration. for the rest, EVERYTHING is different. the lore which is much more mature, the game which has extremely pleasant gameplay which can be even better, a real difficulty which is difficult to find in other gacha (scar in the trying tower 😭) I also want to encourage Kurogames who is very attentive to his community since his old games and very motivated. They don't even hesitate to offer limited characters each year. in short definitely hsr and wuthering wave are and will remain the only gacha I will play until the release of the mugen project which also interests me enormously. I'm tired of hoyoverse games that only think about our money. one game is enough for me since the others don't offer anything different
First creator who mentiond wasn't able to clear all the content.
Today they finaly did something about the ToA now a lot of my dodges were succesful but I wasn't even able to do the last stages. I was never able to do the level 100 bosses, even if I do it my damage is simply not enough although my dps characters are almost fully built.
I don't care anymore. It's just frustration. Not enough resurces to build or upgrade echos, characters and weapons. Always runing out of shell credit...
you can beat the lvl 100 stuff but it takes a long time currently. i don't think you can level up characters and weapons to 100 yet. + i think the payoff is worth it when it comes to players often losing their shell creds because of like how much kuro gives out stuff already. it's more of like "endgame" content (as of now) you're at, so it isn't that surprising that you'd run out of creds at times.
Why there's a Minecraft gameplay?
Wuwa-PGR-HSR trio is insane rn.
For open world, action instanced, and 3D turn based gachas.
For TRPG I'd say Sword of Convallaria is killing it but, it might be recency bias.
I'm a simple man, I like to try different things
As a dedicated HSR player, a now dedicated WuWa player, a Zehzhi Main, and someone who has played Genshin since 1.1, it genuinely just feels like Genshin kinda doesn't give af about its player due to lack of competition in the market.
There's been QoL changes that players have been asking about for three years (almost four now) and Genshin is only just now doing damage control with 5.0 while still not really addressing the QoL issues.
Overall, WuWa just feels really good, fluid, and has mechanics I can actually sink my teeth into with combat that makes me feel like I have to try, where as Genshin feels barebones, the movement and exploration really doesn't feel good, and the end game ranges from brainless, to pay-to-win. I just feel like Kuro appreciates me more as a player than Genshin.
HSR feels very much the same way, like they are actually listening to players, where Genshin seems to think it can ride off it's no longer captive audience and now that it realizes it has competition, they're scrambling to salvage their player base in 5.0
WuWa has a decent story that seems to get better as it progresses
While genshin just copy pasted the same 4 story points in different orders with different characters
Go to new region
Become a criminal
Fight bad guys who have tragic back story and aren't actually bad guys
Win final fight still lose the gnosis cuz plot
As a mobile player I feel the same way the optimisation made me quit but I will continue when it goes on ps5 since I love this game so much
I started playing WuWa because I wanted something like Genshin that I can actually download on my PC without deleting all of my PC files to fit it in.
bro as soon as you talked about xin i remembered she is friends with me on valorant, she is a nice person but sadly one day in her discord vc i pissed her off and i kinda felt guilty af and didnt talk again. Its been many months even i forgot about it but you awakened my memory. Hope you guys are doing great.
How is this game nearly 3 months old now and this is still overwhelmingly the content I see for it out there
The only reason i considered playing WuWa is because I play Punishing Gray Raven, although its a bit different in its overall gameplay mechanics it is quite enjoyable.
I started playing wuwa as a last ditch effort to escape getting bored, and I liked it so I sticked with it
My reasons for playing and staying on WuWa:
- Male Rover.
- Interesting Story (direction).
- No Stamina consumtion outside battle and ect.
- Wallrunning and fun exploring.
- Adults actually look like Adults.
- GeshuLin.
- Dodge and Parry.
- All attack animations look so stunning, kuro always cooking ech Character.
- Freebies.
- Kuro respects my time and effort, and listens to the community.
I LOVE Characters with White hair Designs🤍. You can never have too many white haired characters 😊. Even Griffith is excellent Character design, .....damn you Griffith.....
I gave up on Genshin sometime mid Inazuma due to issues i alrrqdy had with the games grinding then i entirely stopped playing after obtaining Nahida there was too much grind an no reruns of events thay affected the story ever so slightly that bothered me it was like as if my account was ruined
The minecraft gameplay is so distracting dude
easy retention
My attention span 😭
W parkour tho