TIMESTAMPS BELOW! MY PATREON PAGE: www.patreon.com/XBadgerKnightX Season 2 of DoC • Season 2: Dichotomy Of A Character Season 1 of DoC • Season 1: Dichotomy Of A Character 0:00 Intro 3:52 Welcome Back! 4:50 I HAVE A PATREON NOW! (because UA-cam Is Stinky) + Subscriber Milestones! 6:18 YOU CAN VOTE ON WHO I COVER NEXT IN THIS SERIES 7:06 Intro + Why We're Covering Makoto 9:00 Thesis Statement & Ground Rules For This Video 11:04 Part 1 Calling Card Time! Makoto Vaciliations & Tepid Appeal 1:08:17 Part 2 Japanese Sociological Context, Shikata Ga Nai, Apathy, and Filial Piety 1:50:58 Part 3 Terminal Preppie 2:24:59 Part 4 Days Of Sisters (Analysis of P5's OST) 3:03:44 Part 5 Gaman and Gaslighting, Living Vicarious For Sae 4:15:47 Part 6 THE PATH OF STRIFE - BANISHING JOSHIRYOKU 5:13:16 Part 7 A Queen's Coronation And Absolution 5:47:56 Part 8 Brick By Boring Brick (Makoto's Confidant Arc) 5:11:19 Part 9 Playing God (Counseling Session w/ Maruki) 6:46:48 Part 10 DYER'S EVE (Coverage of Sae's Palace) 9:05:01 Part 11 ...And Justice For All (Sae's Confidant Arc) 10:06:22 Part 12 SAD BUT TRUE (The Queen and the Crow) 10:41:29 Part 13 Freedom and Security 11:24:15 XMAS Date With Makoto 11:27:08 Part 14 Throw Away Your Mask (3rd Semester content) 11:50:01 Part 15 I BELIEVE! 12:10:16 Epilogue YOU ARE STRONGER The Queen and the Wolf) 12:43:30 Zenkichi & Akane; Makoto being the cool Big Sis 13:33:15 ZENKICHI PERSONA AWAKENING AND ANALYSIS 13:59:56 MAKOTO'S INFLUENCE ON SOPHIA'S PERSONA AWAKENING 14:09:53 "A daughter's words..." 14:10:18 THE FALLING ACTION FOR MAKOTO & HER INFLUENCE ON THE PLOT 14:11:33 YOU ARE STRONGER 14:12:46 What have we learned from Makoto's journey? 14:14:50 Final Comments & Shameless Plugs
Crazy how people would look at a 200+ hour JRPG where Makoto and her sister has content in like 60-70% of the game without falling off and then it's sequel where she has content in like 40% of the game only to go "it's not that deep"
Yeah... so... why are you caring so much for it? If its not that deep you can, leave this video alone, and go watch something you want. Just cause you dont have the writting skill to make a long video/text, theres no need to get mad. Even if he is wrong or not, the creator clearly has some talent. And instead of spreading hate, go watch something you like and spread love.
@@vitorp2005 unironically, it’s not that deep You took a simple comment and got genuinely bothered, that whole “you’re just mad bro!” Is projection lmao
@@XBadgerKnightX I was about to say your mentally insane but then i watched the video and realize that these are actually really well made and really good, my bad bro 😭😭😭
Comments like yours reinstate the reason why I keep making videos. This video is not for you, yet you cared enough to comment. Why are you here in the first place?
Dude, you’re the only guy on YT that I know with a 14h character analysis, wow!😂 Jokes aside though it’s nice seeing some appreciation for my favourite P5 character and best girl😌
I don't really watch super long videos like this, and I do believe that some points could be scrapped or shortened all together, but so far, it's been really entertaining, and I've been having a good time trying to see others points on such characters I don't have a personal connection with.
@@XBadgerKnightX trust me brother, no sane human on this earth is gonna watch a video this bloated which contains mostly just story recaps all the way, look at ur analytics page youll see how many actually watched all of it lmfao
With all the utmost sincerity I can give, I think you should take care of your mental health, and go outside instead of overanalyzing some fictional (also mediocre IMO) character for 14 hours straight, it's not healthy
I do have one thing to say, however. While I don't mind you going over either Akechi or Sumire. I have some thoughts regarding Akechi, more specifically how things might have been had some factors changed, say he wasn't picked by Yaldy as the reverse trickster to face off against Joker and instead that role was picked by someone else, or even having something of a Dr. Jekyll and Mister Hyde situation, where he has two notable sides to him, the one that wants revenge against Shido and is willing to do whatever it takes to get payback, even if it means doing his dirty work via Mental Shutdowns and other potential ways of 'getting rid of' people considered a 'problem' to the likes of Shido, and another side who is more akin to that we see in the likes of Sae's Palace or when he is conversing with Joker outside of the Metaverse. I even got an idea for a fanfic that, to make a rather lengthy summary short, would have Joker, Akechi, and Makoto having encountered each other as kids, however due to an event that occurred just before Ren and his family would go to live in the small town that he comes from, both Joker and Makoto lose their memories of time spent with each other and Akechi, with Akechi having to deal with the heart wrenching sight of his two friends seeing him and not really knowing him at first. There's a fair bit more to it, such as having the first meeting between the Joker, Queen, and Crow taking place on Tatsumi Port Island at the same period Persona 3 takes place, I hold to the idea that P5 is meant to take place in 2016, as the first material of the game had that as its year it would take place in. So going off of the fact P3 occurs in 2009. We can assume that Goro and Makoto would be around 10 and Joker 9 years old, as to why. I'll admit it is a bit much, but maybe someone who has a bit of an issue with Shido trying to rise in power, as no doubt he had been at this for a long while by the time P5 occurs, figures out somehow that Akechi is his son and kidnaps him, with Joker and Makoto happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, the three of them finding themselves in Tatsumi Port Island and get out of their captivity thanks to the help of SEES who happened to come across the scene, yeah I know not exactly the most impressive way of doing it. But I feel like it would work as part of being a Fanfiction. Anyhow, a year or two passes, the trio are decent friends after Joker and Makoto manage to get Akechi to open up, and during their time around the SEES members, get some life lessons that helps Akechi change his outlook on life and make him want to actually help people and not simply seek Revenge. Oh, he'll want to get back at Shido for being a deadbeat dad, but not going so far as to simply murder people to do that. However, an incident occurs that results in Joker and Makoto forgetting the other existed and not knowing about Akechi at all, while he is rather devastated. He decides to hold onto those memories and try to be a decent guy who wants to help people both because neither Makoto or Joker would approve of him being the malicious murderer in cannon timeline we all know. And to say F-you to the world that seems intent on making him an awful and miserable person. And when Yaldy tries to make Akechi be a part of his game, he straight up denies him. Also, another thing would occur that basically means the real Igor is there to help Joker from the start of the Journey as intended, Lavenza is still split into Caroline and Justine however. Tying into an original character I would introduce that has an interesting connection to Joker in particular. All the while having his own rather interesting backstory, as for who would play the role of black mask still, either maybe have it be a part of Akechi's psyche that got split off when Yaldy tried to force him into role intended for him acting as the black mask, or maybe have it be some other original character. I'll admit there's a lot more that could be said, but I don't want to drag it on any longer than I have to for this comment. Either way look forward to seeing what you have for the last of this season!
Well, finally finished the entire thing. And I have to say it was rather well done and handled quite effectively. While there may be points to improve upon in your videos, such as with overall length and otherwise. I do have to say it is handled somewhat well. I'm sure whichever one you choose for the Finale of this season will no doubt be interesting. Hopefully you might look into doing the first few Persona Games as well like I said before. Yes they are of a different time and overall tone and plot, however I feel it'd be worth looking into them if for no other reason than to see how the series began and what elements from those early games carry over to the more 'modern' ones. Overall, a decent overview of Makoto and her story as well as her sister in part.
…Wow. I don’t know how long it’s going to take me to watch this video, but when I finally finish it, I’ll leave another comment and tell you what I think! Looking forward to hearing what you have to say about my favorite character from Persona 5!
Have to say I'm only about 4 hours and 30 minutes in. But I do have to ask, you ever plan on going over the first two Persona games? Or rather Revelations: Persona and the Persona 2 Innocent Sin/Eternal Punishment Duology? I feel it would be rather interesting having you reference those games with regards to overview of the way the series has progressed from that early state. As well as how there are some parallels between the older games and how they explored the Persona Concept compared to the 'new' games of 3 and onwards. In the older games, every party member could change out Persona's. But they weren't a one size fits all sort of thing, rather they worked best with Personas of the same Arcana as they are, and lesser so with those of other types, and worst with their 'opposites' for lack of a better word. Granted they are of a different sort both character wise and overall story-wise. But it would be interesting seeing you try and go over the things that helped start the series as a whole if you ask me.
Are you going to do a update on the character of Ahoska from her show? Ive seen everything from the clone wars and rebels and the mando seasons but im trying to feel her out if shes still a good character so far its only ep 3.
My enthusiasm for both Ahsoka and Star Wars was immediately killed when I saw Sabine take a lightsaber to the chest and walk if off after a day's rest. If I'm going to cover Ahsoka, it's going to be a deep critique of the show, rather than as a DoC ep.
Do you plan on doing a video for Haru? I feel like she is often overlooked because of her screentime but in my opinion, actually a really deep character
I noticed that the description has incorrect information about the video, the timestamp for Part 9 is wrong and the title and subject for Part 10 is completely different from in the actual video
I think you are reading to much into the lines. Yes makoto has character development. Yeah she basically in 70% of the game but. If you boil it down. Essentially makoto is the smart girl stereotype that these otakus like so much. Same goes for every other girl that's a cofidant they are literally there to be your waifu.. Don't get me wrong. Makoto is my favorite character. Yet i can't deny the fact that most of her dialog is her complaining about her sister and nothing else and then boom lets date joker. Sakurai is the best character in persona 5
TIMESTAMPS BELOW!
MY PATREON PAGE: www.patreon.com/XBadgerKnightX
Season 2 of DoC
• Season 2: Dichotomy Of A Character
Season 1 of DoC
• Season 1: Dichotomy Of A Character
0:00 Intro
3:52 Welcome Back!
4:50 I HAVE A PATREON NOW! (because UA-cam Is Stinky) + Subscriber Milestones!
6:18 YOU CAN VOTE ON WHO I COVER NEXT IN THIS SERIES
7:06 Intro + Why We're Covering Makoto
9:00 Thesis Statement & Ground Rules For This Video
11:04 Part 1 Calling Card Time! Makoto Vaciliations & Tepid Appeal
1:08:17 Part 2 Japanese Sociological Context, Shikata Ga Nai, Apathy, and Filial Piety
1:50:58 Part 3 Terminal Preppie
2:24:59 Part 4 Days Of Sisters (Analysis of P5's OST)
3:03:44 Part 5 Gaman and Gaslighting, Living Vicarious For Sae
4:15:47 Part 6 THE PATH OF STRIFE - BANISHING JOSHIRYOKU
5:13:16 Part 7 A Queen's Coronation And Absolution
5:47:56 Part 8 Brick By Boring Brick (Makoto's Confidant Arc)
5:11:19 Part 9 Playing God (Counseling Session w/ Maruki)
6:46:48 Part 10 DYER'S EVE (Coverage of Sae's Palace)
9:05:01 Part 11 ...And Justice For All (Sae's Confidant Arc)
10:06:22 Part 12 SAD BUT TRUE (The Queen and the Crow)
10:41:29 Part 13 Freedom and Security
11:24:15 XMAS Date With Makoto
11:27:08 Part 14 Throw Away Your Mask (3rd Semester content)
11:50:01 Part 15 I BELIEVE!
12:10:16 Epilogue YOU ARE STRONGER The Queen and the Wolf)
12:43:30 Zenkichi & Akane; Makoto being the cool Big Sis
13:33:15 ZENKICHI PERSONA AWAKENING AND ANALYSIS
13:59:56 MAKOTO'S INFLUENCE ON SOPHIA'S PERSONA AWAKENING
14:09:53 "A daughter's words..."
14:10:18 THE FALLING ACTION FOR MAKOTO & HER INFLUENCE ON THE PLOT
14:11:33 YOU ARE STRONGER
14:12:46 What have we learned from Makoto's journey?
14:14:50 Final Comments & Shameless Plugs
i saw a screenshot of this on twitter and thought it was edited so i had to check that the video was actually 14 hours long
Its not that deep buddy
Crazy how people would look at a 200+ hour JRPG where Makoto and her sister has content in like 60-70% of the game without falling off and then it's sequel where she has content in like 40% of the game only to go "it's not that deep"
@@XBadgerKnightX least socially awkward persona fan
Yeah... so... why are you caring so much for it?
If its not that deep you can, leave this video alone, and go watch something you want.
Just cause you dont have the writting skill to make a long video/text, theres no need to get mad.
Even if he is wrong or not, the creator clearly has some talent.
And instead of spreading hate, go watch something you like and spread love.
@@vitorp2005 unironically, it’s not that deep
You took a simple comment and got genuinely bothered, that whole “you’re just mad bro!” Is projection lmao
@@XBadgerKnightX I was about to say your mentally insane but then i watched the video and realize that these are actually really well made and really good, my bad bro 😭😭😭
Videos like this reinstate the reason why I hate persona fans
Comments like yours reinstate the reason why I keep making videos. This video is not for you, yet you cared enough to comment. Why are you here in the first place?
@@XBadgerKnightX you make videos for people you dislike…?
sending hugs i enjoy all of the videos that you make
40 days later, finally
I will watch this in the next days, can't wait! You are very dedicated, amazing work
Dude, you’re the only guy on YT that I know with a 14h character analysis, wow!😂 Jokes aside though it’s nice seeing some appreciation for my favourite P5 character and best girl😌
I don't really watch super long videos like this, and I do believe that some points could be scrapped or shortened all together, but so far, it's been really entertaining, and I've been having a good time trying to see others points on such characters I don't have a personal connection with.
Looking forward to this, and was not disappointed.
Thank you so much for putting in hours and hours of work because of how passionate you and we are about this series. This is great content!!!
You are so welcome!
its crazy how passionate you are .. i cant wait to watch your other videos too!!!
I just saw you updated!
I'm late but I'm here
This is a nice story recap, so where is the analysis part?
You didn't watch the video at all 💀
@@XBadgerKnightX trust me brother, no sane human on this earth is gonna watch a video this bloated which contains mostly just story recaps all the way, look at ur analytics page youll see how many actually watched all of it lmfao
What are you mad for?
6:10:10 Nice Old Republic reference. Love that line in the smuggler story
AYYYYY SOMEONE GOT IT
@@XBadgerKnightX i have like 5 smugglers (i have a problem) so I'd recognize that voice ANYWHERE!
@@christhecrazy6904 Never played the smuggler, but I do have like 3 different Sith warriors and 3 Jedi Knights, but I haven't played in a few years.
Can you please do an in-depth analysis like this on Futaba, Yosuke and HARU
With all the utmost sincerity I can give, I think you should take care of your mental health, and go outside instead of overanalyzing some fictional (also mediocre IMO) character for 14 hours straight, it's not healthy
No u
First part I agree with, the mid character part is just your opinion
I do have one thing to say, however. While I don't mind you going over either Akechi or Sumire. I have some thoughts regarding Akechi, more specifically how things might have been had some factors changed, say he wasn't picked by Yaldy as the reverse trickster to face off against Joker and instead that role was picked by someone else, or even having something of a Dr. Jekyll and Mister Hyde situation, where he has two notable sides to him, the one that wants revenge against Shido and is willing to do whatever it takes to get payback, even if it means doing his dirty work via Mental Shutdowns and other potential ways of 'getting rid of' people considered a 'problem' to the likes of Shido, and another side who is more akin to that we see in the likes of Sae's Palace or when he is conversing with Joker outside of the Metaverse. I even got an idea for a fanfic that, to make a rather lengthy summary short, would have Joker, Akechi, and Makoto having encountered each other as kids, however due to an event that occurred just before Ren and his family would go to live in the small town that he comes from, both Joker and Makoto lose their memories of time spent with each other and Akechi, with Akechi having to deal with the heart wrenching sight of his two friends seeing him and not really knowing him at first. There's a fair bit more to it, such as having the first meeting between the Joker, Queen, and Crow taking place on Tatsumi Port Island at the same period Persona 3 takes place, I hold to the idea that P5 is meant to take place in 2016, as the first material of the game had that as its year it would take place in. So going off of the fact P3 occurs in 2009. We can assume that Goro and Makoto would be around 10 and Joker 9 years old, as to why. I'll admit it is a bit much, but maybe someone who has a bit of an issue with Shido trying to rise in power, as no doubt he had been at this for a long while by the time P5 occurs, figures out somehow that Akechi is his son and kidnaps him, with Joker and Makoto happening to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, the three of them finding themselves in Tatsumi Port Island and get out of their captivity thanks to the help of SEES who happened to come across the scene, yeah I know not exactly the most impressive way of doing it. But I feel like it would work as part of being a Fanfiction. Anyhow, a year or two passes, the trio are decent friends after Joker and Makoto manage to get Akechi to open up, and during their time around the SEES members, get some life lessons that helps Akechi change his outlook on life and make him want to actually help people and not simply seek Revenge. Oh, he'll want to get back at Shido for being a deadbeat dad, but not going so far as to simply murder people to do that. However, an incident occurs that results in Joker and Makoto forgetting the other existed and not knowing about Akechi at all, while he is rather devastated. He decides to hold onto those memories and try to be a decent guy who wants to help people both because neither Makoto or Joker would approve of him being the malicious murderer in cannon timeline we all know. And to say F-you to the world that seems intent on making him an awful and miserable person. And when Yaldy tries to make Akechi be a part of his game, he straight up denies him. Also, another thing would occur that basically means the real Igor is there to help Joker from the start of the Journey as intended, Lavenza is still split into Caroline and Justine however. Tying into an original character I would introduce that has an interesting connection to Joker in particular. All the while having his own rather interesting backstory, as for who would play the role of black mask still, either maybe have it be a part of Akechi's psyche that got split off when Yaldy tried to force him into role intended for him acting as the black mask, or maybe have it be some other original character. I'll admit there's a lot more that could be said, but I don't want to drag it on any longer than I have to for this comment. Either way look forward to seeing what you have for the last of this season!
Finally finished this fantastic video. Fantastic dissection of a great character.
Thank you so much for watching!
Well, finally finished the entire thing. And I have to say it was rather well done and handled quite effectively. While there may be points to improve upon in your videos, such as with overall length and otherwise. I do have to say it is handled somewhat well. I'm sure whichever one you choose for the Finale of this season will no doubt be interesting. Hopefully you might look into doing the first few Persona Games as well like I said before. Yes they are of a different time and overall tone and plot, however I feel it'd be worth looking into them if for no other reason than to see how the series began and what elements from those early games carry over to the more 'modern' ones. Overall, a decent overview of Makoto and her story as well as her sister in part.
14 hours of Makoto? Count me in!!!
Thank you for taking your time to make this video. Must have taken a ton of effort.
…Wow. I don’t know how long it’s going to take me to watch this video, but when I finally finish it, I’ll leave another comment and tell you what I think! Looking forward to hearing what you have to say about my favorite character from Persona 5!
Hope you enjoy!
Have to say I'm only about 4 hours and 30 minutes in. But I do have to ask, you ever plan on going over the first two Persona games? Or rather Revelations: Persona and the Persona 2 Innocent Sin/Eternal Punishment Duology? I feel it would be rather interesting having you reference those games with regards to overview of the way the series has progressed from that early state. As well as how there are some parallels between the older games and how they explored the Persona Concept compared to the 'new' games of 3 and onwards. In the older games, every party member could change out Persona's. But they weren't a one size fits all sort of thing, rather they worked best with Personas of the same Arcana as they are, and lesser so with those of other types, and worst with their 'opposites' for lack of a better word. Granted they are of a different sort both character wise and overall story-wise. But it would be interesting seeing you try and go over the things that helped start the series as a whole if you ask me.
I dare you to analyze the entire game in a video.
Pretty much going to when we get around to Akechi! Gotta talk about why Yaldabaoth started his game in order to pit Joker and Akechi together.
Just started and already laughed pretty loudly in my job, good work and i might get fired 😂, worth it
Glad to make ya smile! Enjoy the rest if the video
Best woman (and thus also best girl) in P5 is Takemi.
A little one before sleep
Are you going to do a update on the character of Ahoska from her show? Ive seen everything from the clone wars and rebels and the mando seasons but im trying to feel her out if shes still a good character so far its only ep 3.
My enthusiasm for both Ahsoka and Star Wars was immediately killed when I saw Sabine take a lightsaber to the chest and walk if off after a day's rest. If I'm going to cover Ahsoka, it's going to be a deep critique of the show, rather than as a DoC ep.
Hey whats with the dual audio at 8:05:50?
A small oppsie, just my initial commentary as I was playing the game and gathering footage.
Is like i died and went to makoto heaven 😍
Do you plan on doing a video for Haru? I feel like she is often overlooked because of her screentime but in my opinion, actually a really deep character
I would, but I want to focus on Akechi and Sumire for now. That aside, I've already discussed Haru in Ann and Makoto's videos.
It’s not that deep
nay thee
Can you make more response videoes to bad takes against persona 5 ? Like what you did with Salari's video ?
The Akechi video I'm working on atm, which will be released to Patreon soon, has me refuting his claims that Akechi is an amoral nihilist. Stay tuned!
How
WHOOOOOOOOOOOO
TL;DW?
I agree with your points and I ship Makoto and Joker
I noticed that the description has incorrect information about the video, the timestamp for Part 9 is wrong and the title and subject for Part 10 is completely different from in the actual video
Fixed! Thanks for letting me know!
I think you are reading to much into the lines. Yes makoto has character development. Yeah she basically in 70% of the game but. If you boil it down. Essentially makoto is the smart girl stereotype that these otakus like so much. Same goes for every other girl that's a cofidant they are literally there to be your waifu.. Don't get me wrong. Makoto is my favorite character. Yet i can't deny the fact that most of her dialog is her complaining about her sister and nothing else and then boom lets date joker.
Sakurai is the best character in persona 5
yeah right
i like cars they're cute
peak fiction...
i ship best boy and best girl
You should check out YIIK a post modern rpg
Do you have a job?
Do you?
Midkoto
i love ur vids! are you planning to play the new persona 3 remake? id love to see a vid on it!
Absolutely in the cards to stream one day. By this point, I'll hopefully be making content that won't require several hours to make and produce lol