Black and White with Silver Efex
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- Black and White with Silver Efex
In this video we look at producing black and white conversions manually with Nik Silver Efex and DxO PhotoLab 7.
There are three conversions of the same photograph taken on New Years Eve in Lewes, UK.
One showing a straightforward conversion with no bells or whistles, one showing a conversion with focus on detail and realism and a third with focus on drama making the most of the sun cutting through the clouds after a rainstorm.
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Software that I use for Post Processing:
DxO Pure RAW (Pre Processing When Necessary)
Adobe Lightroom (Catalog Management and Editing)
DxO PhotoLab (RAW Processing)
Adobe Photoshop (Layer Based Processing)
Nik Collection (post edit polish)
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That was fun! The last one is my favorite too!
Thank you again, Chris, for always giving us your beautiful photography knowledge. You are a very kind ❤🎉❤🎉
You’re very kind, it’s a pleasure!
Hi Chris. I’m following all of these videos with interest. It’s great to see the versatility and potential of PL7/Nik … thanks for the informative and well demonstrated tutorials!
Glad you like them! Thanks!
Very nice - good explanations and great music - thanks!
As a digression, after watching your previous video on sharpening, I went back and compared my sharpening results using both Topaz AI and Nik 7 sharpen output. To my eyes, the Nik7 results were better. There is certainly more fine control with the sharpening using Nik 7.
Thank you, glad it is useful. That's interesting about Topaz and Sharpen Output, I was impressed with the New Nik Collection update, Sharpen Output is certainly very effective.
Hello world. May I ask the following? If I use DxO raw and then export (I feel its import) into DxO photolab7 to do detailed work, do I need to assign the
General > Correction settings > 6? No correction for RAW images, as well as checking the Automatically use superRAW noise reduction for DxO ONE Super RAW images and uncheck Automatically use Camera rendering if supported. I may have overegged the above question and made the simple comlicated. What I am asking is If the corrections are already done in Raw, do you need to turn them off in Photolab 7 to prevent them from doubling up? I hope that that is clear. Thank you to anyone who may respond.
Hi, in principle, you definitely don't want to apply correction settings twice. so selecting the no corrections option would be the right thing to do. Having said that, the technology in PureRAW is identical except for the availability in PureRAW of a newer version of Deep Prime (XD2) which will probably be included in an upgrade of PhotoLab 7. So unless you absolutely need Deep Prime XD2 then you can apply corrections and noise reduction in PhotoLab 7. Where PureRAW really shines is in preprocessing files for Photoshop or any other non DxO processing software.
@@chriswrightphotographs Thank you Chris, I think its a bit of an oversite that DxO does not inform you of this. I agree that its always important to over saturate a colour image before opening it in Silver E, the result is alway better.
I don't see how processing is in any way different from doing it in any RAW editor that has layers as a function...
Well I did these edits manually by choice. Silver Efex comes with a large number of templates that can be used as starting points. And, Silver Efex isn’t a RAW editor. In the same way that Photoshop uses Camera Raw or Lightroom for RAW editing, Silver Efex uses PhotoLab or Lightroom. If there is a comparison to be made it would be u-point vs layers or ACR vs PhotoLab.
@@chriswrightphotographs absolutely, you are right. I am just coming from a point where I am having a dilemma. I keep reading everywhere how great silver efex is... but I fail to see what benefit it has over doing edits, similar to what you do in this video, without having to leave Cpature One... I see more the drawback, that is that silver efex only works on TIF or JPEG so I can not just simply go back and do fine adjustments, the usual things one can do with a RAW file... Whereas in Capture One or Lightroom after every step of adjusting things similarly to what silver efex does I can go back and tweak exposure, shadows, higlights color profile, clarity etc etc all things that have a lot more latitude in a RAW file compared to the exported TIF file
@@sigmundklausok, Capture One is an excellent RAW processor, so I appreciate the nature of the dilemma! I would say that if you have clarity on where you want the image to go, and it sounds as though you do, then Silver Efex offers speed. And tif is a lossless format so no danger of losing detail through roundtripping. For anyone not really familiar with Black and white, Silver Efex offers a lot more than short cuts (speed) in terms of the range of presets. Many of them require very little further processing to get professional level results.
Chris, have only just bought Nik 7 after thinking about it for years but just never got around to it till now. Sadly for me getting 7 means l miss out on 'Perspective' (View Point) which was with 6 but removed from 7. I do realise l can get it as a stand-alone 'extra' but l'm not interested in buying it separately especially when you consider it was included in a complete bundle only a few weeks ago. Any thoughts about being able to get it separately (in a Nik 6 maybe) as opposed to having to fork out the $79 while it's on the 20th anniversary sale (back to $99 in a day or so). Oh, and that's US dollars, for me in Australia that around $125 or when the price goes back to normal, the $99 means around $150+.
That’s exasperating! I don’t think Nik 6 is available any longer and unless it’s sourced from DxO there would be no support for it. I found it worthwhile to get Viewpoint 4, it’s very good standalone or as a plugin.
The current offer is objectively pretty good, next likely window would be Black Friday when most software gets discounted but whether it will match 20% I have no idea.
Does viewpoint add much more than the perspective and other tools in photolab 7 elite. I trialled it a while back and decided I didn't need it. I do have nik 6 and 7 as well. I find I never need to use nik 6 for perspective work. I do sometimes adjust perspective in Affinity which I find more intuitive
@@stefanmarchit’s definitely horses for courses. Viewpoint does deliver more refined functionality for architectural photography, and I have needed that on a few occasions. But certainly not for every photograph.