Bro I’ve been playing rogue since my day 1 ( 2010 WOTLK ) , and I always find a reason to play different classes because everyone else puts them below s tier every expac but people like you and peekaboo really pull me back onto my rogue
Can’t even express how refreshing it is to see an opening w shadow strike, it’s a huge reason I love sub and one of the most satisfying moves to use in the game. So it’s always been lame to see ppl just walking up to stun someone for an opener, boring af comparatively so I’d just create my own using ss anyways lol
Hey Palumor, Love your content and as a new aspiring rogue you are a amazing. Do you think we could get a look at your macros and maybe what you look for going into certain arenas for kill targets/cc/goes that type of thing with generic rogue comps, big ask but I thought I'd try 😅😅 Keep up the good work.
Where have you been dawg. I told you on twitch the other night. I’m a man Without a country here without your one shots and guides. You had me main an enh shaman out of abandonment. Finally I can start!
I think there us a better min max opener, if you hold symbols until after the first evisc, it will give you another 15% (compound damage boost) on the big evisc.
just a lot of /cast [@focus] spellname or /cast [@arena 1/2/3] spellname depends on how u play and fewctricks like sappimg stealthed and removing Dance on stealth for reset mid burst
Your opener is interesting. What I've been doing is similar but in a different order. 1. First I open with shadowstrike and rupture but without using blades in stealth. I do this to take advantage of premeditation, which gives you full combo points. I feel it's too risky to use blades into an opener without stun, if you get stopped you lose your most important CD. 2. Then I use blades + dance with symbols, tea and trinket. I use cheapshot to generate a first stack of dance macabre and get 7 combo points. 3. I use eviscerate, then sepsis to generate another 7 points + 2 more stacks of dance macabre. 4. Finally I use secret tech, which should be improved by all the previous setup and the tier set. 5. Then cheapshot > evis > cheapshot > evis. I know I'm losing damage, but it's the rotation I've been using since DF and I've gotten used to playing around dance macabre instead of deathstalker stacks. Personally I prefer the trickster gamestyle because it's more similar to what the spec should be, with burst and setups. Sadly, it's a build with a lot of counterplay and energy issues, and it won't exist soon because echoing is going to be reworked. I miss bursty sub, is a rupture spamming machine now. Of course is strong, but if I wanted to play around dots I'd play assa.
In arena: Do you open up with your burst right away to keep up the momentum or do you wait for trinkets to be used? Dps tend to use their trinkets early when they get interupted during cds.
So ...if a rupture dot is such a focus for sub, wouldn't assassination just be a better pick for that style of play? Forgive me if it's an ignorant question,rogue is a class I have not played since OG vanilla so I'm clueless. Many thanks on the video, especially taking time with a kid. From one dad to another.
God, I hope they compensate for removing shadowdust in 11.0.5. Just because of how much you have to one trick rogue in order to be good at it, I really hate the idea of playing shadowdust now, only for it to be removed in 2 months.
Why not strike then kidney, rupture is good for long fight but in burst window its only does 600k in 7s stun. Beside leaving 2 global in open without stun might get CC if 1v1. Even with shadowstrike open is risky. I dont know how your first opener can get up to 11mil total. Its rare to see 3.8mil Evis for 3 cast. Mostly its around 2.5-2.8 like a second opener. And yea make 1 for Assa.
Even with more gear than me. i do more dps/burst in my rotation and rupture is def. not main to specc on + kyrian is extra global which is not needed in my opinion. Other talents are little bit easier and stronger
I don't understand the use of echoing reprimand here - you make the 3rd combo point blue but you never use any 3-point finishers so how did using the ability add to the DPS? Just asking cos I'm confused by this ability.
Are you using any type of macros? if so would you like to share? New Rouge player and pvp so macros aint my strongest suit and i never manage to make them good
I just wonder how possible that blizzard dont have brain.... Remove talents AFTER beta after pre patch after season starts.... remove in a way where whole gameplay changes. Im not playing as rogue main... Since Shadowlands... I remember that fcking nerf after first week. Where whole damage was nerfed more that 50%. Now here utility will be nerfed for onother 200%. I kill rogue on my priest//lapadin//warlock just like mobs... They no need nerfs. ------ Warrior healing need to be nerfed!!!!!!!! 100% at least for 50% Evokers mega burst possibly. Better give better sustain but remove that oneshots one button cleave ... Palas feels strong. The most OP ofc now fury... He cant do dps and be unstopable during that time. Should be or or. And now he also heling like devil...
Is it just me or does the game look kinda uninteresting when dmg numbers go into absurd spaces? I'd much rather see a 2k crit or a 10k crit instead of a number my brain cant even comprehent
There's an addon called NameplateSCT that will do exactly that. You can make the number size smaller and also make it truncate so that its 1.2m or 800k etc
People arn't going to stand still and you too to long killing that dh compared to other classes and echoing is already getting nerfed by 30% next reset and gutted in 11.0.5 where is the sub rogue burst at?.....oh and you ain't going to be in bgs running around rupturing everyone. if you have to use septis and rupture you nite as well roll assassination.
Congratulations on becoming a father!
Bro I’ve been playing rogue since my day 1 ( 2010 WOTLK ) , and I always find a reason to play different classes because everyone else puts them below s tier every expac but people like you and peekaboo really pull me back onto my rogue
BRO your intros are by far the f’ing best lmao🔥🔥🔥
Welcome back!! one for Assa pls
THIS!!!
This guide got me to R1 in the first week of the season, thanks Pikaboo!
Yaaaaay! It finally came out! Awesome content as always buddy :)
Can’t even express how refreshing it is to see an opening w shadow strike, it’s a huge reason I love sub and one of the most satisfying moves to use in the game. So it’s always been lame to see ppl just walking up to stun someone for an opener, boring af comparatively so I’d just create my own using ss anyways lol
man this was the video I needed. my problem with copying talents blindly I havent had a clue how to actually play this build
Hey Palumor,
Love your content and as a new aspiring rogue you are a amazing.
Do you think we could get a look at your macros and maybe what you look for going into certain arenas for kill targets/cc/goes that type of thing with generic rogue comps, big ask but I thought I'd try 😅😅
Keep up the good work.
Congrats on the new lady! Thanks for the video you are awesome man!
The intro was epic
This is what I needed. I felt my assassin rogue just swatted flies around enemies. I’m switching to Sub.
Lmaoooo so true
Where have you been dawg. I told you on twitch the other night. I’m a man Without a country here without your one shots and guides.
You had me main an enh shaman out of abandonment. Finally I can start!
You been carrying me since I came across you in Shadowlands... thank you. And congrats on the babygirl.
Assa guide pleeeease! Zero assa pvp content out!
wait for shadenox guide
I think there us a better min max opener, if you hold symbols until after the first evisc, it will give you another 15% (compound damage boost) on the big evisc.
Awesome guide as always!
God I wish blizzard would make a target dummy reset health button and make the health per player basis. Would be awesome 😍
Congratulations for the little one!
need one for outlaw when u get the chance!! btw awesome video
Keep pump'n the YT vidz
Thanky you Palumor.
Congratulations on your baby girl!!
I know it is going to be a good one if there is some great random sketch at the beginning of the video.
My man comes back with the bis video nice
Gratz on the baby mate! Its amazing having children!
ur mogs always on point
I love these 2010 intros :D
Would be awesome with a list of your important macro's as well!
just a lot of
/cast [@focus] spellname
or
/cast [@arena 1/2/3] spellname
depends on how u play
and fewctricks like sappimg stealthed and removing Dance on stealth for reset mid burst
@@zayon0170 Thanks :)
Thanks mate!!
Yo congrats on the baby bro
Your opener is interesting. What I've been doing is similar but in a different order.
1. First I open with shadowstrike and rupture but without using blades in stealth. I do this to take advantage of premeditation, which gives you full combo points. I feel it's too risky to use blades into an opener without stun, if you get stopped you lose your most important CD.
2. Then I use blades + dance with symbols, tea and trinket. I use cheapshot to generate a first stack of dance macabre and get 7 combo points.
3. I use eviscerate, then sepsis to generate another 7 points + 2 more stacks of dance macabre.
4. Finally I use secret tech, which should be improved by all the previous setup and the tier set.
5. Then cheapshot > evis > cheapshot > evis.
I know I'm losing damage, but it's the rotation I've been using since DF and I've gotten used to playing around dance macabre instead of deathstalker stacks.
Personally I prefer the trickster gamestyle because it's more similar to what the spec should be, with burst and setups. Sadly, it's a build with a lot of counterplay and energy issues, and it won't exist soon because echoing is going to be reworked. I miss bursty sub, is a rupture spamming machine now. Of course is strong, but if I wanted to play around dots I'd play assa.
Another great vid Pika.
How do you keep your primary action bar from changing when you’re in stealth or not? And what’s the ambush/shadowstrike macro?
the legend returns, thanks pal
7 rank 1s… he knows what he’s talking about.. to say the least !
Palumor emo... faz um vídeo sobre o Outlaw!!! Valeu...
In arena: Do you open up with your burst right away to keep up the momentum or do you wait for trinkets to be used? Dps tend to use their trinkets early when they get interupted during cds.
I prayed for this day!
What does "use 1600 freE piece on chestpiece" mean? Also the gear "guide" says nothing about the legs?
When you hit 1600 in any bracket, you get a free piece of gear from an NPC in AK.
So ...if a rupture dot is such a focus for sub, wouldn't assassination just be a better pick for that style of play? Forgive me if it's an ignorant question,rogue is a class I have not played since OG vanilla so I'm clueless.
Many thanks on the video, especially taking time with a kid. From one dad to another.
It is. Sub is only playable in 2s
Bro,.. any thoughts of creating an ASSA pvp guide? Nobody's got 1. Ty cheers
What’s the macro to “press every button” dance/badge/symbols/tea
Make a outlaw guide and sin guide it would be op!!!!!
i hit 3.5 crit mil on pvp dummy as sub :D + the 20% shadow dmg from shadow blades.. so 4.2 mil... not bad
Congrats daddy
I swear it’s underrated how funny ur intros are☠️☠️
whats the addon called that shows you what spells you use
Are you sure rupturing first is the play? I feel like tempo lost is big issue
Nice that your back ❤❤❤
God, I hope they compensate for removing shadowdust in 11.0.5. Just because of how much you have to one trick rogue in order to be good at it, I really hate the idea of playing shadowdust now, only for it to be removed in 2 months.
Why not strike then kidney, rupture is good for long fight but in burst window its only does 600k in 7s stun. Beside leaving 2 global in open without stun might get CC if 1v1. Even with shadowstrike open is risky. I dont know how your first opener can get up to 11mil total. Its rare to see 3.8mil Evis for 3 cast. Mostly its around 2.5-2.8 like a second opener. And yea make 1 for Assa.
Kidney should always be used on the off target I guess.
hey palu, how do you open as sub rogue when u play rogue mage in 2s? it doesnt work when i strike into rupture and then cheap :S since ppl react
keep up that sick content
Even with more gear than me. i do more dps/burst in my rotation and rupture is def. not main to specc on + kyrian is extra global which is not needed in my opinion. Other talents are little bit easier and stronger
Nice! Can you do for Assa pls?
Does the first build also works for Rog-Mage 2s? I'm asking cause I problably need to engage with cheap instead of shadowstrike.
what do you think of the upcoming changes removing vanish CDR
I don't understand the use of echoing reprimand here - you make the 3rd combo point blue but you never use any 3-point finishers so how did using the ability add to the DPS? Just asking cos I'm confused by this ability.
It's about the base damage of the ability, not the anima point
Are you using any type of macros? if so would you like to share?
New Rouge player and pvp so macros aint my strongest suit and i never manage to make them good
What does "Use 1600 freE piece on chestpiece" mean? refering to gearing advice from kalvish
When you get 1600 cr you get a token you can turn in for a free piece of epic gear for either pve or pvp.
Good job
What does wpvp gear mean? Is it gear that you buy for bloody tokens?
Yep!
@@Palumor Got it, thanks!
Can you give a link for the WA for thief's bargain? Can only find DF version and it doesn't seem to trigger like yours
No weakaura just TMW! If you do !TMW in my twitch chat you can find a clip to explain how to set up.
@@Palumor thank you and congrats on becoming a father!
why is sepsis not giving me full combo points while blades is up ?? is this a bug ? also lingering darkness says its give 0% shadow damage ..
W guide
Can you show us your macros for your abilities?
CLUNK CLUNK CLUNK!!!!!!
what are some macros u use for rogue ?!
Finaly bro
What addons do you use for Cooldowns and debuffs?
Omnibar!
Why would you use blades before Shadowstrike? Isn't that just wasting duration of it?
Just for the most min max opener to avoid thiefs bargain dmg reduc. Dont need to do that
Can it be put into a macro?
PALUMOR
WOW! This video made me moan really loud.
I hit 5 mil on dummy with envenom
yassss
why not evi first so secret tech benefit from danse macabre more in the first opener
Tier set makes finishers do more dmg after sec tech I believe.
@@Palumor right tyvm
with the standard pvp gear i hit the pvp dummy 3.5 mil as rogue just saying ;D
Assn please❤️
Where are the timestamps?
bro I forgot LOL. I'll do asap mb
I just wonder how possible that blizzard dont have brain....
Remove talents AFTER beta after pre patch after season starts....
remove in a way where whole gameplay changes.
Im not playing as rogue main...
Since Shadowlands... I remember that fcking nerf after first week. Where whole damage was nerfed more that 50%.
Now here utility will be nerfed for onother 200%.
I kill rogue on my priest//lapadin//warlock just like mobs...
They no need nerfs.
------
Warrior healing need to be nerfed!!!!!!!! 100% at least for 50%
Evokers mega burst possibly. Better give better sustain but remove that oneshots one button cleave ...
Palas feels strong.
The most OP ofc now fury...
He cant do dps and be unstopable during that time. Should be or or. And now he also heling like devil...
Is it just me or does the game look kinda uninteresting when dmg numbers go into absurd spaces? I'd much rather see a 2k crit or a 10k crit instead of a number my brain cant even comprehent
I completely agree. I miss Shadowlands reset of numbers
There's an addon called NameplateSCT that will do exactly that. You can make the number size smaller and also make it truncate so that its 1.2m or 800k etc
just use addon that write 1800k instead of 1800000
Must be the only one playing rogue subtely
Not really.
People arn't going to stand still and you too to long killing that dh compared to other classes and echoing is already getting nerfed by 30% next reset and gutted in 11.0.5 where is the sub rogue burst at?.....oh and you ain't going to be in bgs running around rupturing everyone.
if you have to use septis and rupture you nite as well roll assassination.
Been waiting for this vid for a hot minute lol. Lmao @ kalvish 100%