@@CreativeGoodman Even if they're less pricey, Affinity is still missing a lot of features that are already in Illustrator and Photoshop. If I have to pay a subscription, I'm going with the most feature complete and industry standard. And I'm REALLY hoping Canva doesn't f**k us with a subscription model.
@@mickjayplays - Oh they will in time I personally guarantee it my friend. Canva isn't going to dish out a huge sum of money to the now previous owner(s) of Serif without planning and expecting some sort of return on their investment here with high profit gains for their share holders also! The history of small company acquisitions normally will tell you what to expect as this has already been done a million times over yielding the same exact results every time in the end of it! Simple business economics my friend!
@mickjayplays If you are mostly (if not completely) a mobile designer, Affinity 2 apps on iPad are light years better than Adobe. I have both. I hope we don’t get stuck with Adobe. Ugh
You and me both, I'll turn back to Adobe. I can't stand canva as it is. Let alone them buying affinity. Will break my heart to see another good software/company bite the dust.
Buy the universal license now before any ‘enchantments’ added to future updates are tied to monthly $5-10 payments for use; essentially making it the same as adobe (which tbh is not worth it)
My guess would be the Universal License for Version 2 will always be a one-off price, I can't see them adding any subscription to V2. I can see Version 3 being a subscription model tho and then them not supporting Version 2. Hope I’m wrong! :)
Just curious, you offer some great and fabulous tutorials on affinity photo 2. What added benefit does your course offer? I’m genuinely curious! And interested!
The lack of a subscription payment model was Affinity's main competitive advantage against Adobe. Once it's gone and it's the same offer as Adobe with a subscription, there's no point in using Affinity. You can safely return to Adobe. Therefore, once Canva connects the subscription model for Affinity, there will be a great outcome of customers of their product and return to Adobe. Therefore, I am inclined to believe that Canva will either leave indefinite licenses, or they will extend Serif developments and create just new Canva products with a subscription.
The biggest winner in Adobe's license debacle is Canva, who just recently bought out the Serif/Affinity suite. What timing. Affinity software will now sell thru the roof and reap tons for Canva. I'm sure there's a lot of celebrating in the Canva headquarters.
They have been putting al theer real effort into video and designing anyhow. I never upgraded to 2.0 because it didn't have anything I needed as a stills photographer.
I'll be gone too.I'm sick of the subscriptions model. The money soon adds up if you buy into a few and every app l see these days that I think might be interesting well let's just say as soon as I see the word subscription I instantly lose that interest. Just glad I'm not far off retiring.
...just to add, one of the joint pledges Affinity and Canva have made is "Perpetual licences will always be offered and we will always price Affinity fairly and affordably." Make of that what you will.
I hope I can still use my Affinity one time licence. Im more of a Video Editor person but £50 with the spring sale was enough for me to try Affinity Photo. If it moves to a subscription model and I can't use my one time license which I really hope that doesn't happen I'm going to not use this great software anymore.
Canva holds copyright if you use certain features or levels. Fine if you don't care about that. I asked Affinity and they said you have to ask Canva. Similarly, a font sold within Affinity has to have license inquiries or fees if used in certain ways. and yes 'not at this time' is the answer to question will they have a subscription.
Why switch? Nothing has changed, and until you hear otherwise, things are still business as usual. Now, if in the future Canva pushes the Affinity products to a subscription model, then maybe. But switching now doesn't make much sense. I detest Adobe as much as the next person, and I don't see Canva becoming the next Adobe. It could happen, but that isn't inevitable.
why all the excitement Andrew?...... this seems like we are going to end up without a standalone image manipulation suite alternative, if they screw with it I'm going to GIMP, don't care....CANVA Pfffttttt!!!!! what a letdown.😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
Excitement isn't what I feel, although when I watched the video back there now you’re right, I do come across excited at times, but I think it's more shocked to be honest at this news. AP2 is an app that I absolutely love, and this is big, big news, so I suppose it's more reacting to the news. I do have fears that it will go subscription-based, no time soon tho, but down the line yes. If you’re Canva this is a good purchase, but for us, the users of Affinity, I would be more fearful than optimistic at present. Hope I’m wrong :)
What a shame. I remember the old Serif products and they were great, although I bought the entire Affinity suite, but could never get on with it. The subscription model is a rip off for the personal user.
Affinity was profitable on a perpetual license basis which was one of its USP. Canva have already committed to maintaining the perpetual license model for Affinity, why wouldn't they? Affinity integrated into Canva would already be covered in their subscription model. Canva 1 subscription, Canva Ultimate including Affinity a higher subscription. What's the benefit of not continuing Affinity perpetual?
Subscription is fine for those who can claim it as a tax right off, but for the nurse or teacher or any one that just uses this product to have fun, subscription is a c…………..y move and not ok by me!
As a supporter of free, open source projects l hope that Canva kills Affinity which will mean less competition for GIMP, lnkscape, Scribus, Krita, etc. Yay!
If Affinity goes to subscription service, I'll be off back to Adobe.
Even if they go subscription, I doubt they'll ever be as pricey as Adobe… still hope they don’t go down that route tho :)
@@CreativeGoodman Even if they're less pricey, Affinity is still missing a lot of features that are already in Illustrator and Photoshop. If I have to pay a subscription, I'm going with the most feature complete and industry standard.
And I'm REALLY hoping Canva doesn't f**k us with a subscription model.
@@mickjayplays - Oh they will in time I personally guarantee it my friend. Canva isn't going to dish out a huge sum of money to the now previous owner(s) of Serif without planning and expecting some sort of return on their investment here with high profit gains for their share holders also! The history of small company acquisitions normally will tell you what to expect as this has already been done a million times over yielding the same exact results every time in the end of it! Simple business economics my friend!
@mickjayplays If you are mostly (if not completely) a mobile designer, Affinity 2 apps on iPad are light years better than Adobe. I have both. I hope we don’t get stuck with Adobe. Ugh
I just bought into affinity photo because its offline standalone app. If Canva turns it into subscription im out.
You and me both, I'll turn back to Adobe. I can't stand canva as it is. Let alone them buying affinity.
Will break my heart to see another good software/company bite the dust.
Buy the universal license now before any ‘enchantments’ added to future updates are tied to monthly $5-10 payments for use; essentially making it the same as adobe (which tbh is not worth it)
My guess would be the Universal License for Version 2 will always be a one-off price, I can't see them adding any subscription to V2.
I can see Version 3 being a subscription model tho and then them not supporting Version 2.
Hope I’m wrong! :)
Well, if I already have Affinity Photo, then I can’t buy the universal license as I already have the one app.
Just curious, you offer some great and fabulous tutorials on affinity photo 2. What added benefit does your course offer? I’m genuinely curious! And interested!
The lack of a subscription payment model was Affinity's main competitive advantage against Adobe. Once it's gone and it's the same offer as Adobe with a subscription, there's no point in using Affinity. You can safely return to Adobe. Therefore, once Canva connects the subscription model for Affinity, there will be a great outcome of customers of their product and return to Adobe. Therefore, I am inclined to believe that Canva will either leave indefinite licenses, or they will extend Serif developments and create just new Canva products with a subscription.
The biggest winner in Adobe's license debacle is Canva, who just recently bought out the Serif/Affinity suite. What timing. Affinity software will now sell thru the roof and reap tons for Canva. I'm sure there's a lot of celebrating in the Canva headquarters.
If Affinity goes to subscription, then it's time to go back to Adobe.
If they do go subscription, I doubt they'll ever be as pricey as Adobe… still hope they don’t go down that route tho :)
Interesting everyone wants to abandon ship. I’m still going to use Affinity. The license that I have is mine.
They have been putting al theer real effort into video and designing anyhow. I never upgraded to 2.0 because it didn't have anything I needed as a stills photographer.
That's too bad. I really liked Affinity. Gimp it is!
Love Affinity myself, just hoping it works out in the long run for them and us :)
I wish Affinity could be like Procreate ❤
I’ll second that!!! :)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Needless to say I'm not happy about this sale!
Nor me, but here's hoping it will turn out ok... can see a subscription in the long term now tho.
Hope you're well :)
if affinity goes monthly they can just close the companys doors as they won't match adobe on a subscription service.
Betrayal… affinity has betrayed all of us. So disappointed. No reason to keep up with affinity
Always thought they might sell one day, but we'll wait and see what they do... subscription long terms seems likely tho
I will head to light room then.
I'll be gone too.I'm sick of the subscriptions model. The money soon adds up if you buy into a few and every app l see these days that I think might be interesting well let's just say as soon as I see the word subscription I instantly lose that interest. Just glad I'm not far off retiring.
...just to add, one of the joint pledges Affinity and Canva have made is
"Perpetual licences will always be offered and we will always price Affinity fairly and affordably."
Make of that what you will.
I might as well had stayed with Adobe. I’m not thrilled with this news at all!
Know what you mean but time will tell, hopefully, it won't be bad :)
I hope I can still use my Affinity one time licence.
Im more of a Video Editor person but £50 with the spring sale was enough for me to try Affinity Photo.
If it moves to a subscription model and I can't use my one time license which I really hope that doesn't happen I'm going to not use this great software anymore.
I was just about to go and purchase the app but after this video I’m not sure if I will go for the purchase💔
Canva holds copyright if you use certain features or levels. Fine if you don't care about that. I asked Affinity and they said you have to ask Canva. Similarly, a font sold within Affinity has to have license inquiries or fees if used in certain ways. and yes 'not at this time' is the answer to question will they have a subscription.
Goodbye Affinity.
I hope it doesn't come to this :)
O that is not a good news. I am switching back to Adobe.
It’s big news but yes, probably not good news! :)
Why switch? Nothing has changed, and until you hear otherwise, things are still business as usual. Now, if in the future Canva pushes the Affinity products to a subscription model, then maybe. But switching now doesn't make much sense. I detest Adobe as much as the next person, and I don't see Canva becoming the next Adobe. It could happen, but that isn't inevitable.
why all the excitement Andrew?...... this seems like we are going to end up without a standalone image manipulation suite alternative, if they screw with it I'm going to GIMP, don't care....CANVA Pfffttttt!!!!! what a letdown.😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
Excitement isn't what I feel, although when I watched the video back there now you’re right, I do come across excited at times, but I think it's more shocked to be honest at this news.
AP2 is an app that I absolutely love, and this is big, big news, so I suppose it's more reacting to the news.
I do have fears that it will go subscription-based, no time soon tho, but down the line yes.
If you’re Canva this is a good purchase, but for us, the users of Affinity, I would be more fearful than optimistic at present. Hope I’m wrong :)
What a shame. I remember the old Serif products and they were great, although I bought the entire Affinity suite, but could never get on with it. The subscription model is a rip off for the personal user.
Affinity was profitable on a perpetual license basis which was one of its USP.
Canva have already committed to maintaining the perpetual license model for Affinity, why wouldn't they? Affinity integrated into Canva would already be covered in their subscription model. Canva 1 subscription, Canva Ultimate including Affinity a higher subscription. What's the benefit of not continuing Affinity perpetual?
I don't see what's exciting about that
Adobe functionality will require Adobe pricing.
A sad day.
Wow!
I know! :)
So, another software that is going to shit.
Really hope not! Time will tell :)
Pretty much yes! Use what you have while it works and last and get your current moneys worth out of it.
Subscription is fine for those who can claim it as a tax right off, but for the nurse or teacher or any one that just uses this product to have fun, subscription is a c…………..y move and not ok by me!
canva will change the name of affinity so people will forget it.
As a supporter of free, open source projects l hope that Canva kills Affinity which will mean less competition for GIMP, lnkscape, Scribus, Krita, etc. Yay!
It means go back to Adobe. I’m sure they have raised the price to welcome us back. I bet they are laughing at us.
THAT SUCKS!!!!!!!
i farted