Australian Immigration News 29th June. Mulitiple Law Changes for the 1st of July and more
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- On the 1st of July, changes to the;
Restrictions to student visa when onshore
485 Visa new streams and no transitions for age!
Working conditions on the Employer Sponsored visas
The Philippines added to the 462 Work and Holiday
Application fees increase
189 invitation round details
Links;
Restrictions to student visa
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485 visa changes
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Citizenship Charges
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Work Conditions Changes
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More than 80,000 dollars in university tuition, living expenses, the time we spent, all these investments were in vain and we can't get specialized work even now. Before we applied, they should have told us that the graduate visa does not apply to those over thirty-five years old, so that we choose another country.
Yeh, agree. This is a huge mistake in my life as well.
If they told us about age limit, I will definitely come to this country.
definitely so true, if they have had said that people over 35 are not welcome to work in australia, then i won’t choose to come to Australia and pay the bloody expensive international tuition to study a master course
Australia will pay for the consequences. They will in a few years. And by then no one would come to a country with radical policy changes. It’s clear as day.
exactly. I would consider for other countries if this rule was introduced before I came here. I invested all my savings, gave up my home country job, already studying in Australia. Now they have imposed this rule for all. At least they could exempt onshore students
We advise you to move,,to. Ucrania ,,,that's a great place to complain ,,seee youuu,
Can we sue the government for this?
Hi Karl, thank you for keeping us updated although I am one of the affected students on this rule, I would still be positive.💪
Thank you for your support.
This is so wrong for the students who already enrolled and no transition period for 485, very wrong
and do you think this government cares about that, all they want is sending home as many international students as they can.
What was the value of petioion that we had done ?
Yeah! Very heart-breaking for student who over 35 years old
Atleast they should give chance to apply 485 atleast to get Australian standard work experience.
It is like you can study but tou cant work as per Australian standard work experience for age 35 and above
So noone is willing to take them to court over the age limit. Surely some moral law has been broken by this.
They make the rule amd they csn do whatever they wany thats the problem :(
No transition period... heartbroken for 35 years plus. Many lifes destroyed just being over 35.
It is really heartbreaking 😭
Such an age based discrimination 😢 Thanks for discussing this. I am a doctoral student over 35. Although I am relieved, I still feel the feeling of these 5%. It's so unfair. Thanks, Carl, for discussing the consequences.
Is this true ? If so its really heartbreaking news 😢😢😢
As if that 16k of us aren’t as special as others. I feel we are more experienced. More matured . We feel cheated. There should be some organisation to stand for us.
Yea time to go home sadly😢@@tshewanglhendup4645
Politicians, invest in real estate. We need more carpenters. Invest in engineering projects, we need more engineers.
Less engineer more carpenters,
But yes I agree
Please someone take these monsters to the court.
This is really painful for us over 35. I thought it was supposed to be skill based and not age based. This is just ridiculous. All this time and money spent on a false promise.
Hi Karl. Thank you so much for the updates. Have the authorities announced any changes regarding the maximum number of working hours for student visa holders in next financial year?
If it’s “just 5%” then why not grant grandfathering/transitioning visa for the mere 5% then? The attempt to explain is adding insult to injury.
They want to get as many people out of the country as possible. The students are the first to go, unfortunately. Hope students have saved money to start again back in their home country
They should have allowed students who are already enrolled, completing, started and have student visas granted before such a decision . Very unfair.
Few tips:
When you are studying please network and try to find employer sponsored 494/482 onshore. When you are studying you can transition to 491 with part time work right following state rules. Spouses who are young can apply student visas.
Don't such visa require work experience you cannot get before to complete your degree?
491 can applied on part time work visa on ACT and I don't know about other states. I believe if you are 35 you may have some work experience and if your skills match the Australia skill shortage, hopefully you may get sponsorship onshore
@@Sush1111 If you look at the page of the 491 visa, it says that you must:
be nominated to apply by a state or territory government agency, or an eligible relative must sponsor you
have an occupation on a relevant skilled occupation list
have a suitable skills assessment for the occupation
be invited to apply
satisfy the points test
None of those things are possible if you haven't completed your studies
@@Sush1111 What did you study in Australia to get a 491 visa while you were still studying on a student visa and without having completed your studies? 🤔
@@jayson4602I got 491 after student visa at age of 39. Yes it a bit mix of factors that have favoured
I’m 22 and planning to study masters in Australia but after seeing these changes in 485 I am really discouraged to apply for the student visa. Although I’m not directly affected but this government is not at all trustworthy.
@@paulsharma4807 yes they can change rule anytime.
You are not… but at some point you’ll sure be !
Now you know they can do whatever they want on temporary residents, what a "civil country".
the whole image of the government is like a joke.
@@Dakar-c3fyes, like you donate heaps of money to this country and leave the country for free
Thank you Australian government for discriminating against people based on their age! I cannot tell you how hard it was for me to make the decision to come to Australia to study for a Master's degree last year, and it only took the politicians a split second to change the policy and smash the dreams of my family.
same here. :( if this rule was imposed before getting visa and coming here, at least I could try for another country. Invested lots of money and gave up my job. Now all are just wasted and can't even leave the study in the midway
Same here brother. I left my well-paying job and came here a couple of months back to study. After spending almost $ 30K now, I don't know what to do. Still in dilemma whether I should continue my studies and spends another 50K on it.
We have invested and given up a lot. We will fight. Karl is withnus. There is always hope
You are right. But they have started studies here. So it is really disappointing that in the middle of all these sacrifices they will end up where.
Could you please help me to understand what is the new age bar thing and how does that exactly effects individuals/families in Australia or aspire to come to Australia.
190 grant processing time increased again!! Its hard to wait like this after paying this much money!!
When did you apply??
Disappointing, frustrating and ridiculous the final decision for the age for the post graduate..... Just ridiculous. And it doesn't apply to me at all as Im 45 yo but, it is indeed a joke they are running with and laughing at that 5% they don't care about. Infuriating. I am so sorry for everyone :(
Why is 191 visa grant is taking too long 😢
Thank you Karl for this video. 35 years plus 5 months qualify for the 485? No one seems to know exactly.
Thank you so much Karl for your courage and effort for voicing out for helpless victims the of the Government.
What changes can we expect in the skilled independent invitation rounds from the next financial year?
Hi Karl, petition we signed has been presented in parliament. Can this still make impact on age cap >35 yrs for 485 ?
we are already onshore and studying Masters coursework. I will be 36 just before 1 month of completing my Masters. This is completely betrayal and discrimination. When I got visa, their offer was to get post study work visa for 2-3 years. We came here giving up our job in home country and invested lots of money for better professional experience. Nobody is talking about the students who are already studying Masters by Coursework
Sadly that's the case
Exactly the same situation here. 😢
Me as well, f***
Discrimination on the basis of age.......very unfair
Hi Carl, when are they releasing final decision on CSOL list targeted for consultation?
Some of us brought our family here thinking we can stay longer. This is devastating. Totally absurd for not meeting your promises, Immi. How would paying-international-fees-students hurt you?
Can we sue the government for failed promises? 😢
Dear Karl.. What will be the process if the result of epetition come in favour of victims? Is government must follow the outcome of petition? please answer🙏🙏
Greetings Karl!!! You were the reason for me to stay positive and be patient throughout the Covid period. Today i am in Australia with PR. Thanks for always projecting Positivity and Optimism consistently 🙏
Hey.
I am very happy for. Really hope this will apply to me and my husband one day :) All the best to you from Germany!
Why move Germany is a nice place 😂@@anastasiamikkels9239
What happened with myvevo app on apple phone . It’s showing all pr visa expiry date 1 January 2000.please check
Train Apprentices like in the 80's. Establish the Employment Education n Training Programs.
Anyone know what's happening with 408 visa? Can they transfer to a student visa?
not sure but its better to just apply for a work visa instead
student visa is only useful for genuine students
Cutting off those over 35 has severely impacted our entire family. The 5% is not just a number, these are real people with families to support and loans to pay off. A transitional period must be reconsidered.
Indeed, at least we need few years to gain experience 😢. Feeling devastated.
You could always go home.
Hi! Is it a good idea to apply for a student visa while waiting for the 491 grant? I may actually have a chance to pursue a masters degree, that will be funded by the university of the regional area for which I have been nominated. So, I am thinking, it's a good move in my career anyway, and why not apply for a student visa, go onshore for masters, and wait for 491. Is that possible? Any shortcomings of doing so? For eg, CO may reject my 491 if I am granted a student visa? Lemme know your thoughts.
Today, the site was updated and officially, those over thirty-five years old cannot get a graduate visa anymore. I feel like a loser. My life and money was wasted and no one cared about us.😪😭
me feel the same, pretty shit policy, like a funny joke.
Hello
I need some advise. I am confused with my experience
I have completed my 2 years of Masters of technology (enterprise systems and business analytics)
IT Professional year is also done
I have 1 year of experience as an Logistics Business Analyst
And currently I am working as an Business Planning Analyst.
So does this experience will be valid for PR ?
Hi. Is the work and holiday visa sc462 for Filipino citizens a go already? Some are saying that the system does not accept the applications because of their passports. Please reply. Thank you.
What does this law stand under , does it stand under our Crown or does it stand under the Kangaroo & the Emu. Do people know they stand under the Lion & the Unicorn. The Constitution Act 1900-1901
One thing I'm wondering about is.. why is Karl not replying or providing suggestions for any of the comments when he is the voice of international students. He stood for all of us. Karl please speak.
Sorry everybody I am sick this weekend.
This laws change, maybe many students were doing protest about Israel ?
I don't understand Labour increasing immigration when there are Housing shortages.
Thanks karl you were tried as much as you can❤❤❤❤ we have no further hope about our future😢😢😢
Still fight. Be positive. We have karl with is
Do you think they still listen to us? We are really helpless. I had so much hope with Karl. @@EleanorCabote
I have 80 points for 491 … is dere any chance that I can get invitation in this July 2024 round
Hi Karl, Pratik here. Thanks as always, now that July is about to start, can we expect them to start granting (incereasing the speed) or will there be any further delays. Thanks as always
Australia has big shortage of hairdressers not only construction workers.
What about those who are 35 years and 10 months old? Are they safe?
What about someone holding the subclass 500 student visa currently onshore?
Will they be eligible to apply for another student visa?
@@elizcianvevelt English?
@@wasilmufrat1728you can if you pass the GTE requirement and choose higher level study
How much parents visa Philippines to Australia?
Hi Karl,
As a Canadian Citizen, After I enter Australia on a 6 months tourist visa (subclass 600), Am I allowed to change my immigration status to subclass(457 or 482 or 494) ?
The student visa fees!!! ⚠️
From July 1, the studen visa fees have risen from AUD710 to AUD1,600.
It has more than double. We were told fees wouldn't increase from July 1. What is that?
Basically to tell a prospective student: "Hey! We know that you are not serious about learning. You came here and worked with cash in hand while neglecting your main duty as a student. Therefore we increase the visa fee so that you are more serious in choosing Australia as a place to study.
Also, you keep applying for a student visa not to study but to buy time to work and get PR, this is destroying the reputation of our education institution! "
Probably that
how clever these politicians, they reduced the number of international students by half and double the visa cost, whichever still keep the business balanced
@@rl2388 The increase doesn't make any sense because genuine students will think twice since you're not sure to get your student visa. This increase allows firstly and mostly Australia to get more money from rejected applications. With the same amount of rejection as before the increase, they will get 2 times more money. Now let's say they increase the rejection rate, and you have created a new source of income.
I'm more shocked about the fact that nobody is talking about this increase and by the fact that it wasn't expected. We were told it wouldn't come true by July 1
@@jayson4602 I agree.. They are quite cunning.. If they make everything harder (age cap, GTE, saving account, etc) they should at least keep the visa fee stays the same.
The university cost keeps increasing for overseas students, and yet they give us this kind of treatment.
Once I heard an Aussie complaining about the working visa to my country (which is only around 300 aud). That is nothing compared to what we got here.
@@rl2388 I'm really disappointed. I should have chosen Canada over Australia. At least I could speak French in addition of English which would have probably helped me to for a smoother journey.
I chose Australia because I'm from a French speaking Pacific Island (New Caledonia) and wanted to remain close of my home country. Probably not the best idea I've had in my life.
I'll try to be optimistic. And I hope it will be fine for me and most people affected by the new crazy changes.
I am over 35 and graduating in October with a Dean’s Award Recognition as a proof of my dedication to my studies. I have originally planned to level up my academics to gain competitive skills and take real-world experience in the Australian Workplace after finishing knowing there is 485 Visa allowing me to do that. Now, these plans which involved a lot of mental and financial preparation are all shattered😢💔
Do you think we still can do anything to fight for our right as we were promised to get TR after our studies as we got our student visa.
As long you're not 36 yet
me the same here 😅
What it mentioned in 35 years old means in legislation? Is 35 years and 6 month old include or not
Should be still included. 35 years inclusive
@@exbarsilambi2757May I ask is it authenticated please..
You could draw media attention to age discrimination?
Hi Karl, I am still confused because I turned 35 on the 1st of July which means 2 days before and my master's coursework in nursing will finish next year Feb 2025. Am I able to get the 485 visas or not because of my 35 years of age? Please let me know
I took PTE in April 2023 and I’m planing to apply for 190 or 491 in NT at the end of this year or beginning of 2025 do I need to do PTE test again for 190 or 491 or the 1 year validity is only for 485?
Does anyone know if I can apply for 190 visa without my spouse I will include I'm married but they will not travel to Australia with me or is it mandatory for them to be included in my application with their English test and the other requirements? Someone please answer me
What is still surprising to me that I have a PhD in climate science and I lodged a 190 visa application over 13 months ago and not yet received an outcome of it. The harsh reality for me is that I will not have any contract after the end of this year and all the position that is available required PR as a minimum criterion, and believe me there are many positions available. But because of not having PR I will be unemployed or probably driving Uber to support my family despite having the highest possible qualification of more than 3 years of experience in the field.
I am 35+ and enrolled myself in a masters program a couple on months back. Since then I have spend around A$ 30k on living and study expenses. Feels like I have been cheated by the Aussie government.
Sir Karl, can we actually file a complaint to Australian Human Rights Commission regarding age discrimination of the 485 visa?
Is 35 years 11 months 29 days eligible for TR visa?
yep
I will pack up and leave, TBH i haven't even enrolled for next semester.
Thanks for this Karl! I think you're the only Immigration Lawyer that speaks up for international student. I am finishing my Bachelors in Early Childhood this week and my visa expires end of August. I just turned 36 January and now I'm lost. If it wasn't due to covid I could have finished my course last year. Also the government needed more Early Childhood Teachers and this new laws is ridiculous. I understand the need for reform but they could have been more fair and placed a grandfathered clause. I spent almost 5 years studying and now I just need to go home as there is no visa option available. Sponsorship needs 2 years experience and how can I get that if without the 485? It really breaks my heart. Is there a way to sue this government for this discrimination? If yes let me know, I am willing to take action for this unfairness. Being a teacher, teaching children of fairness and respect for diversity this decision from the government is opposed to all Australia stands for when it comes to equality and respect for diversity. This is indeed discrimination due to age.
I am dependent of TSS 482 visa working in sydney. My husband is the primary applicant of TSS 482 sponsored by his employer. Now his employment is comin to an end earlier than expected, by the new rule he will have 180 days to get another sponsor. Meanwhile will I be able to work until that time?
Looks like trade occupations are almost the only viable option for the 189 Visa at 65 points, especially for international students who can only gain a limited amount of Australian work experience or don't have much overseas experience (and most likely won't be able to obtain 20 points from the English test).
Best case scenario, considering 10 points for Proficient English, is 75 points total for diplomas and 80 for bachelor's (highest points for age, regional study, Australian qualification).
The minimum points needed to receive an invitation in this case was at least 95 with a few exceptions at 85 points for non-trade occupations, this would rule out everything but trades.
For example, even "Civil Eng. Draftsperson" is at 85 points, and that's at a diploma level meaning you get less points for your qualification.
That’s not the full picture however. It is insanely difficult to get TRA skills assessment on time for some invitation rounds, now that a regular 189 invitation round is nowhere to be found. Superior English is not that hard to get if you genuinely use English on a daily basis and practice PTE test, since PTE is generally easier to prepare than IELTS. And you are meant to have good English skills anyways in an English-speaking country.
And to be honest, 85 points aren’t that unreachable considering the below score structure:
Age: 30
Degree: 15 (Bachelor or above)
ASR: 5
NAATI: 5
Superior English: 20
Single: 10
Total: 85
Swap out NAATI to regional study also gives the applicant 85 points. Let’s just say PY is completed on-time, then we can have 90 points, though that is limited in eligibility.
Point is, there is no hard requirement for work experience.
But if you want 100 points, this is one way to go:
Age: 30
Degree: 15 (Bachelor or above)
ASR: 5
NAATI: 5
Superior English: 20
Single: 10
PY: 5
Regional study: 5
1 year Australian work experience: 5
Totalling 100.
Or get 3 years of post-graduate work experience but without regional study. You cannot get to 100 points without some form of highly relevant work experience.
@estellebright2579 for sure, I'd do a lot of practice and try to get those 20 points as hard as I can, but realistically speaking, it's well known that chances are very slim for most foreigners who don't speak English as their native language.
@estellebright2579 to be honest, the points system is going to change soon, so there's that.
But even then, since you're focusing on occupations that require a bachelor's, the Minimum is 95 points, with very few exceptions.
I'm not saying it's impossible but nearly.
The PY is only limited to certain sectors anyway, and I'm not sure many people will go down the NAATI path; not even sure they will keep those ones the system changes.
Also, the few occupations that only require a diploma and aren't trades, are still being invited with a minimum of 85 points, so it's even harder.
Hello 👋🏿
I'm just wondering if 4077 is part of the regional postcodes for 491 visa
8:52 100 points for I.T professionals 🫠
It is better to study Arts then studying IT. Now it is considered the most useless field for the australian market. The job market is extremely competitive, PR is also very hard...
Sir I have tourist visa I have a certificate of heir dressers recent my Visa is convert on sponsorship if I can arrange sponsorship how you can help me sir. If you can help me i will very thankful to you.
They want a better Australia and same time they do things like this. Clearly they dont understand how an economy works.
hi, did a visa lodge for TR before july 1st, today with all the changes comming through for the new financial year, i came to a suprise of my life to be granted only 2 years which should have been more at least 4 dunno why did that happen could you please investigate?
Broken promise 😢
Hi how about Indonesian Refugee is there any news for whom inter in Indonesian after 1 of July 2014 dose government pick up them too
Hi Karl, do you mean 35 yo or under (which would be 36 at max)? It was said first as mentioned but now you use other words. I'm 35 and 7 months n finished studying.
35 or under means as long as you haven't turned 36.
If you are even a day older than 35 on the 1st of July, you won't be able to apply.
@@sumitsharma5050 not true
@@sumitsharma5050 In this case should said 34 or under.
Hi Karl, my husband is studying masters in property valuation and age is 36, he needs at least one year of work experience to gain the licence to become professional valuer and without licence his study is useless. What can he do now???? 😢, its torture 🤕. He wouldn't apply to come here to spend 80 K and years time if he knew it before 2 years. What to expect now? Guide his Karl please.
Hi Karl we all love the information you deliver, it’s very helpful. I have a question, I am on 494 visa and I have already applied 191 visa on 12 April and still waiting. If 494 visa can search for other jobs for 6 months than can I stop working with my current employer? I have very good high paying opportunities but I am on sponsorship. Just wanted to know if I can start other work since I have already completed 3 years on 494 and it’s already 3 months that I have applied 191.
Watching replay
So why is good to take 6 months no work on 494? It's gonna be longer to get PR isn't it ?
That provision is not there to let you abuse it, but for you to have more time to transition to another qualified employer should previous employment breaks down. 494 visa only gives you limited work rights, so you still have to abide by your visa conditions.
Karl I have a question is it easy to get 186 visa after 482, do they need more contract after 186 thanks 🙏
Greetings kari ,thank you for the updates, l would want to find out ,l had an ATT case and won it on the 24 October 2023 ,should l have to get a refund or it's an arrangement for this year only.
Hi sir if I’m in 491 visa I can adopt my own Brother or sister children to Australia is that possible or it’s not possible please reply me thank you sir.
Hi Karl, how does the new financial year look for the grants? I see the the median of 50% grant has increased to 14mnth and 100% upto 29mnths😮
You have got to be joking, that in itself is a huge joke!
DOHA has no quota near the end so grant very few, thus adding up the processing months. The number should go back down a bit when new FY arrives in 2 days.
@@estellebright2579 thanks for the comment Estelle and hoping it does reduce, many ppl are waiting including me
May be 35+ students get priority to get TR like 491 , atleast that has to be taken into account
If there isn't a transition period for 485, what guarantees will overseas students have if they decide to go for a master's or PhD? The government can easily do the same and reduce the age of applicants to 485. How disappointing this situation is; it hasn't been even a year since then, and they are ready to change for whatever reason based on “statistics.” we were fooled in our faces and the government played with the future of hundreds of families.
I am really scared. Are we here only to keep on studying by paying fee. No one offers a job without TR. And also there is no enough time after master's. Without job how can we get experience.
I am main applicant but my spouse is above 35 so can i apply for his 485
So it's over for any international students who will pass 36 yo or more when he/she graduates?
All these exceptions are merely based on political affiliations. Period.
What is your analysis on the next 189 round, will it go back to 65 for healthcare sectors ?
Hi sir what about who already waiting for grant from last 1 years to continue
Hi
My friend was bse nursing student .he was failed and 2 yrs post study working time also finished. He did not pass nursing
2024 March he took 18 month civil engineer course he study this 3 month .but he did not get visa .
What he can do now ?
Please advise , big applications
He can go home.
How do you power your iMac without plugging it in?
Hi, I have applied for 485 visa on 29th June before the new changes. I have studied Masters in Cyber Security at RMIT University and according to the previous CRICOS course list my course was in the list to get 5 years of Post Study Work Permit Visa.
Today my 485 visa got approved on 1st July and I can see that I got 2 years Post Study Work Permit where I was supposed to get 5 years according to the previous rules. Could you please suggest me what can I do in this situation?
Nothinggggg
Hi karl. Thanks for the information. Based on immi site, the visa processing times have increased significantly. Can those times be correct?
Hi Karl what about Bangladesh as India and Bangladesh border is very near.
When will they implement the reformed points test? This year? Or July next year?
Thank you Karl, immigration broke us emotionally, mentally and socially. Knowing that we're only 5% of more than 35 years old, damaging us might be reasonable for them. We also contributed in the country, we have also families who will be affected and why they're not considering us. Is the petition has any possibility?
I believe they are lying saying that students over 35 are 5%. I believe a mass exodus is coming which is what they are trying to do. They want to deport people using age while retaining millions of dollars
Any new changes to 864 and 884 visa please
Hi Karl, is 35 years 11 month eligible to apply 485 visa after 1st july?
Normally it's possible until the last day before you turn 36. So if you turn 36 on 10 August 2024, you should be able to apply until 8 or 9 August 2024.
@@jayson4602May I ask you where u got this information ? Since I am sailing on the same boat.
@@karthikraghu7895 I got this information from how Australia does for other visas. For the Working Holiday Visa, the age limit is also 35 and it's written "until the day before their 36th birthday". And it's the same system for the points system.
You should contact a specialist but I'm 99% sure that a 35 yo age limit means the until the day before you turn 36 yo.
@@jayson4602 thanks it gives great relief 😊
@@karthikraghu7895 You're welcome. Hope it works for you and everything goes smooth 👍🏼
Hey Karl,
How long are your standard consultations for? Have lots of questions I need to ask :)
Thanks
It's all on their website.
We had done the petition for 485 graduate visa, so that above 35 will also be eligible for 485 visa, and the petition had reached above 20 thousand Signatures.
It doesnot have any value???
I also signed, seems like they ignored it
I wish voters of Hotham not to show the transition period for the current minister.
5%? that number isn't real!
Can we convert 476 visa to student visa?
35 years inclusive or not? 😢