It's crazy that so many people don't get the point and yes I'll keep enjoying Wuthering Waves. If you like feeling like you don't progress in a game that's you and maybe you should value games more. If you as a F2P is okay spending 2-3 months to finally get to 60 and there being NO INCREASE then idk kind of while you're okay with a company not giving you progression value.
People complaining about lack of Ressources, but it's just because we have to max out so many characters early game to clear ToA for example. Once your early game Teams are done, u will just prefarm for any new character and ressources will be plenty. I struggled early game in HSR as well, now im casually sitting on 30mil credits, enough exp to max out like 10+ weapons and characters... Without even farming credits or exp. Why cant people just chill until they are done with all those early game characters lol. You will NEVER ever be in this position again to have to max out so many characters at once.
its not the same metric. Can’t keep comparing things to hsr when the games relics/echo systems are drastically different. Hsr highly incentivise you to not bother leveling things which aren’t that good. You can tell what is good and bad from the moment you get the piece and see if its worth rolling or not. Wuwa incentivise you to level every piece under the sun and invest tuners into them to atleast level 10 to even see if the piece is worth rolling or not. This alone places a much much much greater value on tuners than anything in hsr can ever even offer because tuners is what tells you the value of the piece when in hsr the pieces value can already be determined innately from the get go. Its just not the same. We need more resources to keep up with the higher demand. Thats just the reality.
@@darko6115 I'm just saying there will be a time, where you dont have to go through this exact process for many different characters at once. Just give it like one more month or so and your characters are mostly done. After that you will find yourself with an abundance of ressources since you will just prefarm stuff for one or maybe two future characters at once. At the moment people are funneling their ressources into 6 to 9 characters to get as far as possible in ToA, obviously the game dont give enough ressources for this amount of characters. Soon you will funnel all ressources into 1-2 characters and you will be fine, believe me.
@@sinshriftx7605 I don’t think there is much to justify the bad rewards. Sure in the future we may have excess but you also need to realise how rare and hard it is to get high rolled crit pieces. If someone really wanted to min max a character with really high rolls, the amount of resources the game gives you almost makes that an impossibility. In my hear there is just no way tacet fields should cost 60 energy. Thats the really obvious fix
@@darko6115 bros acting like its better in hsr and genshin when you first have to get a double crit piece, then pray its a 4 liner so you can get an extra roll that isnt useless, then hope you get FIVE crit rolls in a row THEN hope that you got the high end of crit rolls because 4 low crit crolls = 3 max crit rolls. Thats so much better than rerolling the plentiful amount of upgradable echos you can farm to get a high crit value then rolling it further to try to get another
This reminds me of Genshin Impact where at lv70 one can access everything in ones skill tree. After lv70 in Genshin its just getting bigger numbers and no new ability is unlocked. I am at union lv60 for a while now and I don't feel too encouraged go beyond it. Il stay at lv80 and a union lv60 and save time farming to catch up to enemy levels and tankyness. Thanks for the info.
to be completely fair, it does kind of make sense for the tacet field rewards to remain the saim. the way of gearing through echoes doesnt change, you cant level them up higher at a certain union level or whatever. nothing changes about your need of echo ressources, so why would the gain of them increase? skill material costs go up, so you get slightly more. not to say tacet field rewards feel bad and need to change.
But it feels pointless to increase union level. Now 70 and 80 useless because at least you can level to 90 and unlock the last dungeons at 60. All it does is make mobs stronger
I agree, they seem to be having trouble making sure there's content for the lvl 30 casual and the lvl 60 fiend. Appreciate the research, been playing way more casual now I know there's no reason to pusb
Devs can tweak it a little more to find a good balance. People forget, this isn't a standard game as it's a gacha game. One to be dabbled in daily/weekly. People blowing through everything or power levelling is on them causing part of the disappointment. It isn't designed to have 6-9 characters maxed so quickly, it isn't designed to have echoes power farmed and min/maxed so quickly, it isn't designed for the ToA end game to be smashed so quickly. It's to be built towards as a goal for when you have no more levels, no more skills to level and no more weapons to level. And I am pretty sure most are to have a 6 week development period before new content is out.
At least raising the character level cap is cool even if it gets crazy expensive. I will completely stop refreshing with asterites though. Completely agree with the waiting until double drop event issue and that rewards should get better. I am afraid for the longevity if they don't quickly address this and the phone optimization.
It’s expensive to level characters up. You farm coins and matts to level everyone up during 60. Plenty to do at level 60 imo. I do agree the echo xp needs to be cleaned up. Perhaps at 60 it cost less xp to level echos.
ZZZ is lacking in content and is a dungeon crawler. A open world game it is not. With Mihoyo's history of censorship I'd rather not play a another mihoyo game after genshin.
The fact that people are bashing this guy for stating the truth!!!??? Come on, stop being " That is normal " Kind of shit. This is why developers are MILKING IT FROM YOU ALL!
Literally how every gacha and even MMOs work. Once you rush whale content there’s a downtime waiting period. Mind you I’m a whale saying this…. Whaling means this is our reality, F2P man.
I really don't care about this yet Cuz I can't even play the god damn game They should return the optimization back to 1.0 cuz at least I was able to play during that patch now I can't do shii
@@HorizonMediaGaming lucky you I'm so sure your using some really high end expensive stuff thinking everyone should have the same Really smart Just because you don't experience it doesn't change the fact that other people are experiencing it Fyi my device meets the recommendation and it's compatible with the game Buh after updating my device keeps experiencing Ms spikes It isn't my phone it's the game
@@SenMid o.o, a desk top from 2017 no upgrades, a iPhone 14, and a Lenovo legion Go (handheld pc but by no means powerful). I wouldn’t say any of these are really high end expensive. Think the phone cost the most of all these at 1400 tbh. Still I played it on my old iPhone 12 without issues and I have a few friends with older phones playing it no issue. So again I’m curious if ppl are using extremely old hardware to play newer games because that’s what it sounds like tbh. Moreover I didn’t say nobody experiences it, but the way ppl complain about it, you would think everyone is texting from an office calculator like what🤣?? I fully believe the game may have issues but I also am also convinced ppl are trying to run the game with bare minimum specs of this issue is this widespread.
It's crazy that so many people don't get the point and yes I'll keep enjoying Wuthering Waves. If you like feeling like you don't progress in a game that's you and maybe you should value games more. If you as a F2P is okay spending 2-3 months to finally get to 60 and there being NO INCREASE then idk kind of while you're okay with a company not giving you progression value.
People complaining about lack of Ressources, but it's just because we have to max out so many characters early game to clear ToA for example. Once your early game Teams are done, u will just prefarm for any new character and ressources will be plenty. I struggled early game in HSR as well, now im casually sitting on 30mil credits, enough exp to max out like 10+ weapons and characters... Without even farming credits or exp. Why cant people just chill until they are done with all those early game characters lol. You will NEVER ever be in this position again to have to max out so many characters at once.
its not the same metric. Can’t keep comparing things to hsr when the games relics/echo systems are drastically different.
Hsr highly incentivise you to not bother leveling things which aren’t that good. You can tell what is good and bad from the moment you get the piece and see if its worth rolling or not.
Wuwa incentivise you to level every piece under the sun and invest tuners into them to atleast level 10 to even see if the piece is worth rolling or not. This alone places a much much much greater value on tuners than anything in hsr can ever even offer because tuners is what tells you the value of the piece when in hsr the pieces value can already be determined innately from the get go. Its just not the same. We need more resources to keep up with the higher demand. Thats just the reality.
@@darko6115 I'm just saying there will be a time, where you dont have to go through this exact process for many different characters at once. Just give it like one more month or so and your characters are mostly done. After that you will find yourself with an abundance of ressources since you will just prefarm stuff for one or maybe two future characters at once. At the moment people are funneling their ressources into 6 to 9 characters to get as far as possible in ToA, obviously the game dont give enough ressources for this amount of characters. Soon you will funnel all ressources into 1-2 characters and you will be fine, believe me.
@@sinshriftx7605 I don’t think there is much to justify the bad rewards. Sure in the future we may have excess but you also need to realise how rare and hard it is to get high rolled crit pieces. If someone really wanted to min max a character with really high rolls, the amount of resources the game gives you almost makes that an impossibility. In my hear there is just no way tacet fields should cost 60 energy. Thats the really obvious fix
@@darko6115 bros acting like its better in hsr and genshin when you first have to get a double crit piece, then pray its a 4 liner so you can get an extra roll that isnt useless, then hope you get FIVE crit rolls in a row THEN hope that you got the high end of crit rolls because 4 low crit crolls = 3 max crit rolls. Thats so much better than rerolling the plentiful amount of upgradable echos you can farm to get a high crit value then rolling it further to try to get another
@@huejanus1333 when did i say its better or worse I said we need more resources which is just the truth?
It was no different in genshin level 60 wasn’t worth the grind
Once you reach 45-50 don’t even pay that level any attention
A scam no one was trying to sell you
Lol so true
its not a scam its just ur sweaty af and the game wants u to rest spend time with ur family and friends also dont forget to touch grass
Ok kurotard
This reminds me of Genshin Impact where at lv70 one can access everything in ones skill tree. After lv70 in Genshin its just getting bigger numbers and no new ability is unlocked. I am at union lv60 for a while now and I don't feel too encouraged go beyond it. Il stay at lv80 and a union lv60 and save time farming to catch up to enemy levels and tankyness.
Thanks for the info.
We all fill your pain man plus when we get there it's gonna sucks and thx for the information, great video
to be completely fair, it does kind of make sense for the tacet field rewards to remain the saim. the way of gearing through echoes doesnt change, you cant level them up higher at a certain union level or whatever. nothing changes about your need of echo ressources, so why would the gain of them increase? skill material costs go up, so you get slightly more.
not to say tacet field rewards feel bad and need to change.
But it feels pointless to increase union level. Now 70 and 80 useless because at least you can level to 90 and unlock the last dungeons at 60. All it does is make mobs stronger
@@B0b-k3r so you dont need to any way. New players can have the same rewards as veterants.
@@B0b-k3r "All it does is make mobs stronger" that's a good thing because right now, the overworld mobs are too easy to kill.
how did you reach ul60 already? I'm not even at 50 and I do all activities every day and spend all waveplates...
Power of credit card and max refills
@@Oldzcule PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...
I agree, they seem to be having trouble making sure there's content for the lvl 30 casual and the lvl 60 fiend.
Appreciate the research, been playing way more casual now I know there's no reason to pusb
They need to add like one more of each resource per event. Make some waves and have them change it
Devs can tweak it a little more to find a good balance.
People forget, this isn't a standard game as it's a gacha game. One to be dabbled in daily/weekly. People blowing through everything or power levelling is on them causing part of the disappointment.
It isn't designed to have 6-9 characters maxed so quickly, it isn't designed to have echoes power farmed and min/maxed so quickly, it isn't designed for the ToA end game to be smashed so quickly. It's to be built towards as a goal for when you have no more levels, no more skills to level and no more weapons to level.
And I am pretty sure most are to have a 6 week development period before new content is out.
At least raising the character level cap is cool even if it gets crazy expensive. I will completely stop refreshing with asterites though.
Completely agree with the waiting until double drop event issue and that rewards should get better. I am afraid for the longevity if they don't quickly address this and the phone optimization.
It’s expensive to level characters up. You farm coins and matts to level everyone up during 60. Plenty to do at level 60 imo.
I do agree the echo xp needs to be cleaned up. Perhaps at 60 it cost less xp to level echos.
ZZZ is lacking in content and is a dungeon crawler. A open world game it is not. With Mihoyo's history of censorship I'd rather not play a another mihoyo game after genshin.
man played a game before its release to make a decision to play it further or not, time traveler
The fact that people are bashing this guy for stating the truth!!!???
Come on, stop being " That is normal " Kind of shit.
This is why developers are MILKING IT FROM YOU ALL!
Just internet brainrot as usual they think I hate the game or something for just stating the truth LMAO when it's def my favorite game to play
What union level should you Start farming echoe fields
UL40
UL40
Ok 👍🏾
At data bank level 20/21
u r being a little bit too gloomy bro... though Tacit suppression is unworthy fr & the amont of tuners is just too little
Ah yes, guess I will just choose not to level up then I guess
this is why i take my time
DB 21 is not 50.
Its 40.
I am at 46 ,I have Gurantee gold.
It was a UI error that already got fixed. I was wondering that as well as i saw that DB level 20 needed you to be rank 6 xD
Welp time to use all my solvents
So according to this its gonna take 10 yrs to max out a character and weapon
The ones having issues on mobile stop tryna play on potatoes
🗣️ I'm gonna be honest I can't play anymore if my game keeps crashing every 2 min
You are totally right!!! Tacet Fields are really bad. Lv 60 should increase a lot more for the progress…
holy shet,you beat the game, so it feels like genshin all again, there is nothing to do, just dailies till a new version or character comes out.
so like every Gacha game…
dont play gatcha games thats how the game works
Literally how every gacha and even MMOs work. Once you rush whale content there’s a downtime waiting period. Mind you I’m a whale saying this…. Whaling means this is our reality, F2P man.
I really don't care about this yet
Cuz I can't even play the god damn game
They should return the optimization back to 1.0 cuz at least I was able to play during that patch now I can't do shii
Seriously what phones and computers do yall have. I have 0 optimization issues….
@@HorizonMediaGaming lucky you
I'm so sure your using some really high end expensive stuff thinking everyone should have the same
Really smart
Just because you don't experience it doesn't change the fact that other people are experiencing it
Fyi my device meets the recommendation and it's compatible with the game
Buh after updating my device keeps experiencing Ms spikes
It isn't my phone it's the game
@@SenMid o.o, a desk top from 2017 no upgrades, a iPhone 14, and a Lenovo legion Go (handheld pc but by no means powerful). I wouldn’t say any of these are really high end expensive. Think the phone cost the most of all these at 1400 tbh. Still I played it on my old iPhone 12 without issues and I have a few friends with older phones playing it no issue. So again I’m curious if ppl are using extremely old hardware to play newer games because that’s what it sounds like tbh. Moreover I didn’t say nobody experiences it, but the way ppl complain about it, you would think everyone is texting from an office calculator like what🤣??
I fully believe the game may have issues but I also am also convinced ppl are trying to run the game with bare minimum specs of this issue is this widespread.
😂😂😂 now rush to 90 and cry more
Am already lv 65 😢
to be honest, i might drop the game because of this.
Why?
Why?
@@willburning6955 to much material to upgrade a single character with little reward of progressing using stamina.