Is Science a Liar? A Philosopher Reacts to It's Always Sunny
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It's Always Sunny: Can Mac finally solve the science vs. religion debate?
Some of the greatest philosophical debates in history took place while over jugs of wine in ancient Athens or steins of beer in nineteenth century Berlin, so who’s to say that philosophy can’t happen in a Philadelphia dive bar? In this episode of A Philosopher Reacts, we’re heading to It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia’s Paddy’s Pub to see if Mac can convince us that science is a liar . . . sometimes.
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As a person who has never seen an episode of it’s always sunny I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt that Dee is most definitely a bird.
Maybe she's a parrot?
You have missed out on an amazing 14 years of television
A big flightless bird!
With hands and feet like wrecking balls
@@yshivamkumar2135 like Big Bird, except plucked and fed lorazaprim to keep her chill. Hummingbirds twitch less, and woodpeckers peck less wood, but she has been guaranteed to be a bird indeed.
This is basically a showcase of how the skills relevant to debate are not necessarily the same as the ones that make someone have accurate information
-> Ben Shapiro
As someone who was on the debate team in high school I can 100% confirm this.
@@Howitchewstofeel5gum That was my exact first thought, too! You beat me to it.
It's like how courts aren't trying to figure out what happened, just what can be proven
@@Howitchewstofeel5gum BEAT ME TO IT GODDAMN IT
What’s kinda great is my ecology teacher actually had us watch that clip of Always Sunny and then explain why Mac’s argument is flawed as extra credit.
I hope they got a raise
Damn nice, how was it? what were their arguments
We must know now
@@GabrielOliveira-ej4ij well he gave WAY too many points for it, but it was pretty much like this video pointed out, science builds on itself and should be able to be replicated, so the reason why evolution is currently believed to be true is because it has stood up against testing by others.
pretty easy assignment
Didn’t trust this dude until he said paying for a doctorate in philosophy was bad idea
Paying for a decorate? What are you trying to say? Lol
@@blaze556922 he means paying for college.
The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html
Yeah, that’s why I got a BFA.
@@blaze556922 unless you get a free ride, paying for college is paying for a degree
Can I offer you an egg in these trying times?
It’s a jumping off point
IVE BEEN POISONED BY MY CONSTITUENTS
I'd rather have a rumham.
The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html
How about this ua-cam.com/video/ub82Xb1C8os/v-deo.html
Legal Eagle did a great “Lawyer Reacts” to this same episode where he analyzes the claim that it’s franks responsibility to pay for the cereal damage
Yeah that’s a great video lol
He also did one about the bird law/wedding fiasco trial.
The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html
I like the one they did on Bird Law
@@mmrw love it
The magic of this scene is the audience getting as uncomfortable with Mac's argument as Dennis does. It may be filled with fallacies, but it makes you *feel* like it's not.
Isn't that what fallacies do? Make argument with logic inconsistencies sound logical.
@@tusharyadav4982 yeah much of the time. I think what's happening here might also be considered sophistry. Logical fallacies don't have to be convincing, they can be obviously wrong too.
@@riffsthatkill2180the practice of sophistry is more relavent now than ever it feels like. With all thw dangerous rhetoric out there, I'm surprised people don't talk about it more. Or at least philosophers should.
That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about philosophy to dispute it
@@cleverusername9369it’s right *nods assuredly
Every time I hear Mac called by his real name I crack up
"as ronald has explained..."
i instantly remembered the scene where is dad tells the other inmates he named him that and they all started laughing and I lost it all in 2 seconds hahaha
As a Christian that grew up watching Kirk Cameron movies, the statement of his acting career being a crime against humanity made me laugh so hard
I've seen bit of "The Way of the Master", and I can honestly say, I would be just fine never watching Kirk Cameron hold a banana ever again. Unless it was a wild banana, because then he'd be so confused as to why it isn't perfectly shaped for his hand 😂
"So lets watch some bad things happen..."
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Bad things happen in Philadelphia.
I read this comment .5 seconds before the ad came on. I love you for that.
An Ad for Jack Daniels no less
I hate ads
You still get ads? Why...
“Reason will prevail.”
Reason will prevail
Reason will prevail
Thick or thin slices of lime?
@@Kcd1306 I’m siding with thick, can’t risk someone choking, and it gives you something to snack on. 🖖😀
Reason will prevail
What’s funny is that everything Mac said, Dennis can easily use it to attack religion. However because he has no response to Macs argument he automatically loses in the eyes of the gang.
Dennis lost in the beginning by defaulting to an appeal to authority as the foundation of his argument. Then all Mac had to do was point out the hypocrisy and undermine his authorities enough to create doubt. It’s the “Al Gore is a millionaire with a massive power bill” of counter arguments.
We have to learn to not use our weaknesses but rather the weaknesses of the claims of others. In this situation I would agree, evolution is wrong. Now prove god. And then it's the book and everything and then you mention books from other religions... and on and on. Actually I'm a big fan of street epistemology.
Rob uses this episode to show the irony and hypocrisy of both fields/trains of thought.
Things is, neither of them can be definitively proven. So Rob as usual uses his twisted sense of humor to mock everything.
@@josephde-haan1074 ah yes street epistemology, the missionary work of Atheists
@@Robert-rw5lm Whatever rocks your boat.
"If i see a helicopter in a tree i don't need a helicopter license to know someone fucked up" - Steve Hofstetter.
Hey, thank god, my wife and I have been trying to have a boy for years and now we finally know that she should stop shouting "That's a spicy meatball!" when she's finishing
This is accurate. We have three boys and my wife hates spicy balls. Wait... 🤔
Weirdly, Aristotle's "eels growing out of mud" is not that crazy an assumption. We didn't understand the eel life cycle until the 21st century because it was basically impossible to track them. RadioLab did a fascinating episode on it.
The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html
@@jk2357 Shut up!
So he was wrong?
In reality Mac is not so much disproving evolution as he is proving that Dennis' mockery of his faith is unjustified and hypocritical.
Also nowadays, accurate scientific data can be and has been suppressed (sometimes) because it does not fit the narrative or could harm profits...
I like how, basically, all UA-camrs stop in the middle of what they're doing to do a commercial. It reminds me of Truman Show when they're presenting coffee
"What the hell are you talking about? Who are you talking to?!"
"scientists are at the cutting edge of ignorance"
I was watching this thing yesterday yesterday on the GEH sciences, and that little gem of a quote came up between plants and fungi
:)
I once read it described as the process of becoming slightly less wrong that you were before.
An interesting hurdle science can face sometimes is when people can't see that what they currently believe is wrong like you were saying. We learned at university about Barry J. Marshall and Robin Warren, they discovered that stomach ulcers and gastritis could be caused by bacteria, not by stress as it was long upheld, but their theory was not believed until Marshall after a gastric biopsy to prove he did not have the H pylori bacterium, then infected himself, became ill with accute gastritis.
Interesting thing about Galileo's model was that it was partially discredited at the time because the existing geocentric models were more reliable for predicting some celestial movements than the one Galileo proposed.
He also got persecuted by the Vatican for proposing the OUTRAGEOUS IDEA that the Earth wasn't the center of the Universe, as God intended it.
@@DarkAngelEU no, there's about as much truth to that as the claim that everyone thought the world was flat before Columbus found the new world. He was arrested because he kept flipping the pope the proverbial bird in his writings at the time.
@@braith117 U-huh.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair
@@DarkAngelEU read past the summary, my dude.
@@braith117 I read most of it diagonally, in search of what you were saying, and I couldn't find it, so if you'd be so nice to point it out for me :)
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Id watch it
I need that in my life
That's why I just tweeted this to them 😁
The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html
"So, let's watch some bad things happen-"
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"As for me, all i know is I know nothing, and that Dee is a bird" - Socrates
That stab at Neil Degrasse Tyson is scientifically proven to be dope!
I just had to cackle !
I laughed at that. Lmfao.
I can confirm that Sweet Dee is indeed a bird.
biologists actually still arent really sure how eels reproduce
"THESE ARE ALL GIRLS"
@@truffeltroll6668 WHAT'S A N***A GOTTA DO TO GET SOME EEL DIC-
I saw a video the other day, they’ve figured it out I believe. Something about swimming all the way across the ocean or something I dunno I watch too much bullshit on this website
@@ThePwnedProduction "I watch too much bullshit on this website" -- I feel you, bro. I feel this too hard.
@@IceMetalPunk I feel like I learn a lot... but it all just blurs into one big mess of half facts 😂
I love this episode of Always Sunny. Also Frank was definitely at fault and Dee is, in fact, a bird.
That's why I respect science's opinions over religion. Science admits when its wrong. It actively tries to disprove itself, instead of actively trying to defend itself.
@Kelas Enterprise just please look into it. There is tonnes of evidence of a common ancestor between humans and chimpanzees.
"The reason that the major steps of evolution have NEVER BEEN OBSERVED is that they required millions of years..."- G.Ledyard Stebbins, Harvard Processes of Organic Evolution, p.1.
"...unique and unrepeatable, like the history of England. This part of the theory [evolution has occurred] is therefore a HISTORICAL theory, about unique events, and unique events are, by DEFINITION, not a part of science, for they are unrepeatable and NOT SUBJECT TO TEST"- Colin Patterson British Museum of Natural History, Evolution, P.45.
"As far as we know, all changes are in the direction of increasing entropy, of increasing disorder, of increasing randomness, of RUNNING DOWN. Yet the universe was once in a position from which it could run down for trillions of years. How did it get into that position?"- Isaac Asimov, Science Digest. 5/1973,p.76.
"I think however that we should go further than this and ADMIT that the ONLY ACCEPTED EXPLANATION IS CREATION. I know that is anathema to physicists, as it is to me, but we MUST not reject a theory we do not like if the EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE SUPPORTS IT."- H.J. Lipson, U. Of Manchester. Physics Bulletin, vol. 31,1980 p. 138.
Cap 🧢 @@samus2205
Mac's deconstruction of evolution is the best moment of It's Always Sunny in philadelphia
I have the same problem with his argument as I do with the rest of the show... At first I laugh, then I feel deep existential dread because it's too eerily close to real life.
@O. M. Or a bad reality…
A point I always make when debating this with my skeptical homies is that science is based on replication. Anyone can take a theory they don't like and try to make the experiment again to see if it works. They can make their own hypothesis and present it to be reviewed by others. Then they rant about how that would be useless because of rigid academics, and I agree, but that is a whole different story. The thing is that fanatics never bother to put the effort in actually disproving anything because they know they wouldn't stand a chance.
Bring back Thug Notes!!!!!!
Yo what it do. LoL
No, that is an outdated character that only a small percentage of viewers still want.
All good things must eventually come to an end, friend :,(
Also, that segment’s view count never broke 1 million, so there’s no way it’s coming back
Sadly it won’t happen
Thug Notes was the best I love that series
Around 9:02 The problem I see with that argument is that he's actually disproving himself. If posterior advancements in scientific knowledge remove the validity of the previous beliefs, then he is the one who's looking like a "B", because he's defending beliefs that were already disproven by advancements in scientific knowledge. His argument may be seen as a valid one only in the forward direction, not to justify staying in the past.
Charlie is very knowledgeable in bird law, if anyone knows if Dee is a bird, it's him.
I always thought the funny part about this scene was that Mac is actually right but in a different way.
Most people act as if the current scientific findings are univeral law that will never change. This doesn't make it tremendously different than religion. That's not to say that science is the same as religion but the way people perceive it is. That is probably why people have a hard time explaining why Mac is wrong.
Oh boy. More of my new favorite series.
Do you mind checking out my video on the best scenes from Always sunny:)
Exactly they tear these apart lol
The problem with the idea that religion and faith stopped being antagonist when the Enlightenment rolled around is that the academic structures that made the Enlightenment possible were Church institutions. The Church's university system, the philosophical underpinnings of the scientific revolution that came from the likes of Duns Scotus and Ockham, and the preservation of knowledge that the monastic system had been performing for centuries all set the stage for the blossoming of the intellectualism that followed. We can't ignore the horrors that the Church brought to bear (like the Crusades and Inquisition) but we also shouldn't ignore the achievements that they directly fostered.
This is one of the best clips from a comedy of any sort. Brilliant, I sent this to my professor for an intro to philosophy and religion course and he was cool enough to play it for the class lmao
One thing: you keep mentioning as a counter-argument against Mac that there is a rigorous process of verification and peer-reviews in science, but I do think Mac would just ask if you witnessed the peer-review process yourself, if you actually went wherever scientists make those verifications and all. And if Dennis made that argument, he likely never witnessed that process, so that's still a point for Mac.
As for the main argument of the trial, I actually think both Frank and Dennis are in the wrong. Both engaged in irresponsible driving behavior that, by themselves wouldn't have caused the damage. It's only when combining the two irresponsible behavior that the damage could have been made. So my ruling would be that Frank only has to reimburse Dennis for half the damage, instead of the full price.
Honestly, the rhetorics of Mac’s arguments are so layered in sneaky fallacies that Socrates would have a field day unpacking that whole can of worms.
Random Fact: Technically, Lego is the largest tire manufacturer in the world
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 love this
It's also the largest manufacturer of legos.
Also it's only called Lego if it's made in the Lego region of France.
@@SamShowOnline Your work is underappreciated, my friend 💛
@@SamShowOnline No. thats wrong
Faith V Reason has become an invalid "either or" argument in modern times and exists solely as a political argument. Is this a worthy TL;DR?
There are so many debates in this show! I’d love to see you cover more of them
Damn I high and that warby Parker ad was long as hell.
real talk
I think what Mac gets to is the epistemological certainty with which either belief can be held by an individual. So while there is a larger discussion on how science and religion can or can't coexist, the certainty with which the individual can hold either belief is in question. While the scope of Christianity is too broad to cover how each can arrive at their particular end, for most people the belief in evolution resides on an appeal to authority. What Mac does is actually somewhat brilliant because what he does demonstrate effectively is that if the authority can be wrong, you can not appeal to them as an infallible guide (demonstrating why appeal to authority is an actual fallacy). So he reduces the argument to faith in books written by men a person doesn't know about conclusions from data or faith in books written by men a person doesn't know about historical events.
The funniest thing about this scene is that that when I watched it at first I was 100% convinced by him only to later laugh my ass off at how insane it is
it sounds like you just flip flop based on whatever argument you heard last. good sheep.
Video request: Deep or Dumb? The TV show “Lost.” I recently rewatched this as an adult with philosophy knowledge. It’s pretty all over the place intellectually and long. But, they reference lots of philosophy, theology, and literature. A character is named John Lock, Hume, another Rousseau. Dostoyevsky’s work is mentioned, Bible passages are mentioned, Dharma, and the list goes on.
I agree with this. I want them to do Lost.
Lost was a waste of my life.
@@satan6412 Lost only started being a waste of our lives at Season 4. The first three seasons are solid.
Mac's cool shirts are totally underappreciated.
For me, I see this more as a way to show people who believe "faith" or non-scientific beliefs are "dumb" that there is more to it than that. Just showing how, like you said, faith and science aren't contradicting. They can co-exist in someone's beliefs, thoughts or opinions without being contradictory.
"Your paragon is failing us man" -Charlie Kelly
Remember that there was a time in the past century when medical "experts" told us that smoking cigarettes is actually a healthy habit. Turned out they were in the pockets of tobacco companies. Sometimes "the science is settled" by the highest bidder.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but they did not actually say that. There was a time when they had no solid view on whether smoking would kill you (because enough research hadn't been done yet) but that's not the same as commendation.
@@noahsmith3581I hear the ads on Old Time Radio with some frequency, various doctors recommending this cigarette and claiming how healthy it is.
I love that you referred to Mac as Ronald; deep cut sir!
You missed out an important detail
What was the name of Mac's plank?
I'm pretty sure Mac is calmly and rationally setting up the framework and arguing for Pessimistic Meta-Induction. A true philosopher of our times!!
Yes! I always think of the PMI when I rewatch Mac’s argument. It’s too perfect, I’m surprised the video didn’t mention it (unless it did and I missed it).
I think the most interesting part of Mac's speech is glossed over by many people, because they really don't want to admit they belong to a 'faith': the fact that MOST people that think evolution is true, have no solid foundation of evidence to back that belief up.
That's not to say evolution isn't scientific fact, but that is to say that MOST people who believe in evolution, have not actually examined the scientific literature on the matter and have not honestly considered all the best counterarguments. They scoff at fundamental christians and religious groups and denote them as anti-science, while they wouldn't know the first thing about science, but simply repeat and strongly believe in what some scientists say.
And how many scientists have they heard speak about evolution, I wonder? Maybe 5, 10 tops? So they can't even claim the 'majority' of scientists agree that evolution is true.
Those people, like most of us, mostly get their info from media; news, movies, television, websites and forums where certain viewpoints (which may be factual, but may also be fictional) are regurgitated without any proof or critical approach. They usually don't hear scientists talking about it, they hear other people with no expertise repeat it firmly.
So if you dare to strongly claim evolution is true (and possibly look down on people who don't) yet you have not read more than 1 scientific paper on the matter (let's put the bar extremely low for now) you should probably do some soul searching: you are as much a product of peer-pressure and group-think as any of those fundamental religious people. Well, that's my opinion anyway :)
But what about the Fossil Record
@@covenawhite4855 What about the Fossil record? Did you check it out yourself? Verify that it has to be accurate, and then also rule out any other conclusion that can be drawn from them, to land at evolution as the answer?
My point isn't that evolution isn't real, my point is that only a select group of scientists can honestly, fairly claim they know. The rest is just following what is generally acceptable to think/believe.
@Liz Lee So your way of determining what is true or not, is by seeing who 'profits'? You aren't talking about money, so if you interpret profit so broadly, I could just as easily argue that scientists, publishers and many companies and ideologies 'profit' from having people believe 'evolution' is true.
Have you done the calculations and comparisons to see which party profits the most? I doubt it. So from what you've said, I can only conclude that your beliefs are based mainly on intuition.
About your second paragraph: I will once again reiterate that I'm not saying science is the bad guy and religion is good, or anything like that. I'm saying there are many people who have never touched a scientific paper, that hold strong views on something like evolution. I'm saying they have no right to claim something so strongly they 'know' so little about: they just think they know about it.
I'm also saying that therefore, they have no right to look down on other people that hold certain beliefs, because their own persuasion is as much a belief as the faith of a Christian.
if michael has a doctorate, does that also make him youtube’s other dr. mike?
I think it points out that alot of people rely on science without understanding the principles. Or relying on faith. I once had a conversation with someone defending climate change. I agree with climate change being real but also knew that they had no idea what they were talking about. So I had a ten minute discussion with them about how there isn't enough CO2 in the air and we need to create more to stop climate change. They agreed, even mocking those who didn't believe it. I never told them I was lying just though it was interesting that they could be so committed to something they know nothing about.
Honestly I don't think Frank should pay for any damage to the interior, you assume a certain amount of risks when getting into a car, if Dennis was drinking a cup of coffee as a lot of people do when driving, that is a foreseeable risk that you may spi someone's coffee if you hit them, but eating a bowl of cereal? Thats just irresponsible for someone to do while driving their car, you need both hands to hold it, it doesn't have a lid, and im not even sure how someone would keep it from spilling while just driving around normally, Dennis should have never had that bowl of cereal, and it's his irresponsible behavior that put his interior at risk
You’re trusting in a community of people who you don’t know, never met, and probably don’t even know the names of out of… dare I say…….faith?
19:20 Uh actually it's Dee's fault, and SHE should pay for the damages.
I've been mulling over it for years... but yes, Dee is in fact a bird.
This reminds me of what I understand was the original idea on the "flat earther" thing - going back to personal discovery rather than seeking to deny science itself.
As we know, a misunderstanding (or disagreement for argument's sake) of the science leads to what many of us believe to be troubling behaviors. Just as Mac's apparent misunderstanding of his own religion devolves into a "political war" or fanaticism as defined in the video.
Maybe we could learn to be humble (in faith and science) and try to agree there are things we may not understand yet - and that's ok because it could be understood in the future. In the meantime, we all do the best we can with what we have - and that could be praiseworthy of each of us already.
I mean theology and science aren't mutually exclusive. Religion seeks to answer spiritual questions and is the sum of thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of years of development resulting from philisophical exploration, observations of the human condition etc and has had numerous paradigm shifts. Science seeks to answer the questions posed by the material universe. The two can co-exist and in some ways have leant heavily on eachother throughout history.
Great work. Especially emphasizing that faith and reason can, and often do, complement each other.
Mac is correct that we have limits to our knowledge, and in questioning the current paradigm, but fails to provide anything more useful system. He’s tearing down without building anything up.
It’s ironic that the endpoint of his logic would be some kind of radical postmodernism in which absolutely nothing can be true! Instead, he should be using the various tools at his disposal (philosophy, science, theology, and others) to create the fullest picture of the truth that he can.
I'm glad he didn't. When philosophers try to bring an amalgamation of religion and science as a new way of looking at the world, we end up getting a dark, twisted potential of a paradigm, where people like Shapiro and Peterson carefully use science to legitimize the sexism, racism, homophobia, and other forms of hate that are derived from many religions.
They unfortunately take Mac's logic one step further than it needs to go, and they do it so well and with so much "charisma" that they end up messing up the value systems of thousands of (mostly) men. It's yucky. Blah.
@@s.l.3281 discrimination is natural tho
Almost every culture discriminates against others and even within their own system there is always discrimination it's a natural part of life
@@s.l.3281
Cope
I really appreciate how the editor lined up the tick with the square in the background so perfectly
I'm almost done with my BA in Philosophy and I couldn't be more happy to have chosen it
I am currently a studying fine arts major but heavily considered a degree in Philosophy. Can you tell me about what drove you to it and your future plans?
This was a fantastic video. Thank you. It's really nice to see a reaction video made by someone who knows the series and isn't reacting to a single episode without background context
Last minute of the video: “It’s absolutely Frank’s fault !”😂😂😂 Which of course, was how the whole debate began. Sweet vid👍🏼
I’ve been a follower of Wisecrack for a while now and I gotta say I kinda love this new series. Keep it up!
As a PhD student in Biblical Studies, and a lover and reader of philosophy, I am so glad you did this take. It’s sad so many people think they have to choose between critical thinking and scientific inquiry and faith and religion. When, in reality, critical thinking and science can strengthen and refine a religious faith, and similarly, religious faith can refine and strengthen science and philosophy. As you point out, tons of philosophers have dealt with this.
Great video! Love the jokes and analysis on that Great bit in Always Sunny
"You keep using this word "jabroni" and... it's awesome!"
3:40
You have your history on this backwards.
The current debate between Faith and Reason is a post-enlightenment development, with the vast majority of Theologians (Christian) stating that BOTH Faith and Reason are essential to the interpretation of Scripture.
We do not see a significant deviation of the church from science until the publications of "The Fundamentals" (1910-1915) and then the Scopes Trial of 1920.
16:40
Again, this is not just about a century of Philosophers, but two millennia of Theologians... and while I cannot say for certain, I am sure that this can be found within the Talmud as well.
18:00
So, you did know this... you just chose not to include it in the meat of your essay.
My man.
Just what I wanted, to stare at a random dude talking into a microphone while I listen 💀
God that one time he randomly said Ronald instead of Mac threw me off so bad 😂😂😂
Nobody can replace Jared but dammit Michael, every time you make my degree feel less useless, you get a little closer.
reminds me of an essay i read by Kierkegaard called "on the difference between an apostle and a genius"
A Philosopher Reacts.. Is this like, a new 'series', or specifically titled segments? Cuz im down to watch a philosopher react to a bunch anything!! Also you should do an piece on Jim Jones.
When you first said "Max Planck" I thought you said "Mac's Plank" and I was trying to remember when Mac had a board of wood in the episode.
I just always try to remember that whether it's religion or science, it's all furthered by the intentions of people.
AND YOU DON'T TRUST PEOPLE!
Great point
But science has a system of quality assurance called peer review which ensures that the vast majority of what is published is accurate to the date it was released. Religion just spouts bullshit without any evidence or oversight whatsoever.
@@pastlife960 Oh boy, you're going to learn just how far behind peer review is today, aren't you?
Yes, peer review is a great system, but it's also a costly system, and there is a severe lack of the falsifying repetitious experimentation required to peer review a lot of the published findings. Seldom do scientists get funding to just redo the experiment to see if it still holds up.
Also, your dismissal of religion really points to a belief in scientism and not actually scientific rationale. There are whole centuries long debates on religion, arguing fundamental underlying concepts, by the religion's practitioners themselves.
The point is that be skeptical of any cause, be open, because at the end of the day it's furthered by people and people are flawed. Whether that's a preacher or a scientist not getting funding because the rest of the scientific community has decided to blacklist him.
@@pastlife960 most studies aren't repeated and when they are, the results don't match the original experiment at all. This is especially true within social sciences
I’m already seeing manipulation. He’s dismissing the possibility that serious debates can’t happen at paddy’s pub. These people act like gatekeepers and nobody but people of authority can have legitimate opinions.
It's because he is a future "BlTCH!"
Science is built on faith.
For a philosopher he kind of glosses over this point. He says science is based on institutions, and peer reviewed studies etc, but your acceptance of science is still built on faith in those institutions to uphold the standards they claim to hold.
Atheistic scientism religious fundamatics are just as brainwashed as any other religious cult and they will never admit what they believe is a religion, quite sad. Much of the world is based upon carefully crafted philosophical dogma. It's unprovable and a stretch that the community takes on faith and faith alone. Science without the scientific method is just philosophy and yet nearly every worshiper of "science" doesn't realize it. They cannot even cite the scientific method, let alone understand how most of the alleged "sciences" never actually use the scientific method. They push pseudoscience and take advantage of its followers that believe they are hearing something that is practically concrete and scientifically proven by following the scientific method when in actuality they are being manipulated by heavily funded institutions that are gathering up the largest congregation this world has ever seen. The absurdity that is the minds of modern man.
Opening line of this video is a summary of my "planned" career path...
Glad to see Michael is still alive and that the show is doing well
I can scientifically prove that you should never look an Irishman in the eyes.
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I was actually going back between the 2 at one point 😄
7:53 here's one for philosophising, you don't prove things in science, you just fail to falsify them.
True! But then we get into epistemology and the very nature of truth, and some people might argue for solipsism, and... well, there's a reason epistemology is an entire *field* of philosophy 😂 But yeah, science works based on coming up with an idea, then running an experiment designed to contradict it. If the experiment instead ends up agreeing with your idea, then it's probably right, so you publish your methods and results, and a bunch of other people try to prove you wrong. The more experiments fail to prove you wrong, the more right you are, and at some point it becomes silly to pretend that it's not fact anymore.
From 15:14 to 15:30.
So we have to have some sort of faith that the scientific community is communicating to us the truth. It seems similar to the belief that what saints wrote is also truth.
The difference is that science is demonstrable, religion is not.
“True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.”
Socrates > Aristotle
Shoutout to the narrator it was hilarious how calmly he said “Bitches”
You're wrong actually...The whole thing is Dee's fault.
I'm gonna defend Aristotle, we still don't know much about Eel Sex.
Big Bang Theory was created by a Priest.
underrated comment
It was. Unfortunately, many people try to use that fact to say "see? Religion is right!" But the thing is, the priest (Georges Lemaître) formulated his hypothesis (that would later become a theory) not based on religion or faith. He was also an astronomer, and he came up with the idea after finding observable evidence of it -- specifically, evidence that the universe is currently expanding. And t didn't become a theory until tons of other testing happened and tons of other evidence was found (redshift, the CMB, etc.).
I know that's not what you were trying to say with this comment, but enough people do try to say it that I thought it was worth clarifying. Because although a religious person discovered the Big Bang, he did t through science and not through faith or religion.
@@IceMetalPunk Point is science and the Catholic Church do not actually contradict one another.
Science and reason are not contradicting
@@OisinMcHugh Science and reason are not contradictory. However, science and religion certainly are. The Catholic church promotes the Bible, and the Bible says to believe things which are empirically false. That's the antithesis of science.
14:46 - Glued together chicken parts would actually be sort-of a dinosaur, as birds are a branch of dinosaurs.
No mention of epistemology?
For shame.
@@thotslayer9914 lol, some people actually think that.
@@TheSkullConference Very sad for sure. It explains how easy for some to become QAnon believers.
@@TheSkullConference Bayesian reasoning and critical thinking skills are a mystery for most US citizens.
One thing about science is that it is not really an echo chamber. People want to prove stuff wrong all of the time. They want to take someones idea and dunk on it and put it up as a poster.
18 seasons of Sunny! Woo!
a lot of people in this comment section are completely missing the point of why the creators made Mac's argument lol, its supposed to show how Mac is an idiot but can convince using persuasive points, i mean come on the creators say constantly the whole show it satire and everything the gang does is stupid n ignorant n shit and shoudnt be replicated, but it seems like south park they actually attracted a large fanbase of which agrees with everything they say even though the creators specifically told them thats not the point of the show for gods sake
Mac reminds me of talking to Jehovah’s Witness family
Well... I gonna try to explain my personal thinking. Don't hate, it is just my conclusions. My brother is a renowned biologist and thanks to him I'm a great enthusiast in the subject. We talk a lot about our origins. I love this subject and I love science. In the field of science and archaeology, there is much empirical evidence of the existence and the time period of the dinosaurs. It is crystal clear that they existed. Also, the origin of the universe being the "big bang" is very much factual with the mathematical sciences and astronomical inference. In the case of the dinosaurs, It is like from a 2 hours documentary we have watched 1h30 of it, so we know pretty much "most" of the subject to be sure about something. However, when comes to evolution itself we have just watched like just 20 seconds of it and made a lot of assumptions about the matter. Opposite to the fossils we have too little to no evidence and too many variables. The evolution is a bunch of maybes put together as facts. A great part of it is unproven, doesn't follow that basic rules of inference and requires a lot of goodwill and faith by the science community to be palpable. However, this same studies and theories are sold to the "science b*ches" as facts. We should have an infinite source of evidence available in nature, considering how our planet works if evolution was a sure thing, but we have just a hand full of fragmental knowledge in an era where modern biology is thorough. In the end, it is indicating by many means that life has a master project, even though like an old religious dogma, the natural sciences of the last decades resists in admit it, mostly like my brother says "because of political reasons of not giving religious nuts any type of fuel". I personally believe in a creator, a master engineer... but even if I was atheist, as a programmer myself, projecting fake pathetic copies of life's behaviour every day, it is in many orders of magnitude easier to believe that we live inside the "big simulation" than in evolution.
Evolution is like a biological AI trying to beat the game of life. Problem is, the rules keep changing
Just like here in the Philippines, a lot of people are practicing fanaticism towards the president.
I think you didn’t analyze this in the best light, the focus of the discussion was not in the false dichotomy of faith and reason but rather on the epistemological challenges of science