Is Science a Liar? A Philosopher Reacts to It's Always Sunny

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    It's Always Sunny: Can Mac finally solve the science vs. religion debate?
    Some of the greatest philosophical debates in history took place while over jugs of wine in ancient Athens or steins of beer in nineteenth century Berlin, so who’s to say that philosophy can’t happen in a Philadelphia dive bar? In this episode of A Philosopher Reacts, we’re heading to It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia’s Paddy’s Pub to see if Mac can convince us that science is a liar . . . sometimes.
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  • @johndoh1000
    @johndoh1000 3 роки тому +3256

    As a person who has never seen an episode of it’s always sunny I can confirm without a shadow of a doubt that Dee is most definitely a bird.

    • @skybluskyblueify
      @skybluskyblueify 3 роки тому +12

      Maybe she's a parrot?

    • @jamesm3392
      @jamesm3392 3 роки тому +96

      You have missed out on an amazing 14 years of television

    • @djkb125
      @djkb125 3 роки тому +47

      A big flightless bird!

    • @silentrevolver4600
      @silentrevolver4600 3 роки тому +32

      With hands and feet like wrecking balls

    • @Cabrera1027
      @Cabrera1027 3 роки тому +11

      @@yshivamkumar2135 like Big Bird, except plucked and fed lorazaprim to keep her chill. Hummingbirds twitch less, and woodpeckers peck less wood, but she has been guaranteed to be a bird indeed.

  • @urieldaluz250
    @urieldaluz250 3 роки тому +907

    This is basically a showcase of how the skills relevant to debate are not necessarily the same as the ones that make someone have accurate information

    • @Christopher-md7tf
      @Christopher-md7tf 3 роки тому +119

      -> Ben Shapiro

    • @saiyanscars
      @saiyanscars 3 роки тому +66

      As someone who was on the debate team in high school I can 100% confirm this.

    • @kicsms_science3729
      @kicsms_science3729 3 роки тому +22

      @@Christopher-md7tf That was my exact first thought, too! You beat me to it.

    • @FlowUrbanFlow
      @FlowUrbanFlow 3 роки тому +35

      It's like how courts aren't trying to figure out what happened, just what can be proven

    • @johnfakester5527
      @johnfakester5527 3 роки тому +4

      @@Christopher-md7tf BEAT ME TO IT GODDAMN IT

  • @tarri16
    @tarri16 3 роки тому +1564

    What’s kinda great is my ecology teacher actually had us watch that clip of Always Sunny and then explain why Mac’s argument is flawed as extra credit.

    • @WisecrackEDU
      @WisecrackEDU  3 роки тому +337

      I hope they got a raise

    • @GabrielOliveira-ej4ij
      @GabrielOliveira-ej4ij 3 роки тому +10

      Damn nice, how was it? what were their arguments

    • @steamtasticvagabond474
      @steamtasticvagabond474 3 роки тому +8

      We must know now

    • @tarri16
      @tarri16 3 роки тому +86

      @@GabrielOliveira-ej4ij well he gave WAY too many points for it, but it was pretty much like this video pointed out, science builds on itself and should be able to be replicated, so the reason why evolution is currently believed to be true is because it has stood up against testing by others.

    • @lilbean5955
      @lilbean5955 3 роки тому +10

      pretty easy assignment

  • @andrewmorales3745
    @andrewmorales3745 3 роки тому +830

    Didn’t trust this dude until he said paying for a doctorate in philosophy was bad idea

    • @blaze556922
      @blaze556922 3 роки тому +3

      Paying for a decorate? What are you trying to say? Lol

    • @victorortero8743
      @victorortero8743 3 роки тому +15

      @@blaze556922 he means paying for college.

    • @jk2357
      @jk2357 3 роки тому +2

      The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html

    • @w.devarien3154
      @w.devarien3154 3 роки тому

      Yeah, that’s why I got a BFA.

    • @phlpcockrell
      @phlpcockrell 3 роки тому +6

      @@blaze556922 unless you get a free ride, paying for college is paying for a degree

  • @atharvas3244
    @atharvas3244 3 роки тому +611

    Can I offer you an egg in these trying times?

    • @djkb125
      @djkb125 3 роки тому +18

      It’s a jumping off point

    • @trybeanpole1873
      @trybeanpole1873 3 роки тому +26

      IVE BEEN POISONED BY MY CONSTITUENTS

    • @CarynDPrescott
      @CarynDPrescott 3 роки тому +12

      I'd rather have a rumham.

    • @jk2357
      @jk2357 3 роки тому

      The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html

    • @Roeclean
      @Roeclean 3 роки тому

      How about this ua-cam.com/video/ub82Xb1C8os/v-deo.html

  • @sean361
    @sean361 3 роки тому +338

    The magic of this scene is the audience getting as uncomfortable with Mac's argument as Dennis does. It may be filled with fallacies, but it makes you *feel* like it's not.

    • @tusharyadav4982
      @tusharyadav4982 2 роки тому +17

      Isn't that what fallacies do? Make argument with logic inconsistencies sound logical.

    • @riffsthatkill2180
      @riffsthatkill2180 2 роки тому +8

      @@tusharyadav4982 yeah much of the time. I think what's happening here might also be considered sophistry. Logical fallacies don't have to be convincing, they can be obviously wrong too.

    • @samueldoiron1656
      @samueldoiron1656 Рік тому

      @@riffsthatkill2180the practice of sophistry is more relavent now than ever it feels like. With all thw dangerous rhetoric out there, I'm surprised people don't talk about it more. Or at least philosophers should.

    • @cleverusername9369
      @cleverusername9369 Рік тому +6

      That doesn't sound right but I don't know enough about philosophy to dispute it

    • @sneakthieve
      @sneakthieve 17 днів тому

      @@cleverusername9369it’s right *nods assuredly

  • @YoungMule
    @YoungMule 3 роки тому +611

    Legal Eagle did a great “Lawyer Reacts” to this same episode where he analyzes the claim that it’s franks responsibility to pay for the cereal damage

    • @mmrw
      @mmrw 3 роки тому +28

      Yeah that’s a great video lol

    • @CarynDPrescott
      @CarynDPrescott 3 роки тому +44

      He also did one about the bird law/wedding fiasco trial.

    • @jk2357
      @jk2357 3 роки тому

      The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html

    • @alski200
      @alski200 3 роки тому +4

      I like the one they did on Bird Law

    • @Save_America24
      @Save_America24 2 роки тому +1

      @@mmrw love it

  • @matthias2756
    @matthias2756 3 роки тому +123

    Every time I hear Mac called by his real name I crack up

    • @vamshidarisi8400
      @vamshidarisi8400 3 роки тому +15

      "as ronald has explained..."

    • @Matty80822
      @Matty80822 2 роки тому +6

      i instantly remembered the scene where is dad tells the other inmates he named him that and they all started laughing and I lost it all in 2 seconds hahaha

  • @michiganjack1337
    @michiganjack1337 3 роки тому +247

    “Reason will prevail.”

    • @mr.timmons842
      @mr.timmons842 3 роки тому +9

      Reason will prevail

    • @victoriaalmanza381
      @victoriaalmanza381 3 роки тому +8

      Reason will prevail

    • @debarchan123
      @debarchan123 3 роки тому +17

      Thick or thin slices of lime?

    • @michiganjack1337
      @michiganjack1337 3 роки тому +2

      @@debarchan123 I’m siding with thick, can’t risk someone choking, and it gives you something to snack on. 🖖😀

    • @alexianasi8771
      @alexianasi8771 3 роки тому +2

      Reason will prevail

  • @squidcaps4308
    @squidcaps4308 3 роки тому +20

    "If i see a helicopter in a tree i don't need a helicopter license to know someone fucked up" - Steve Hofstetter.

  • @kaif-tube1692
    @kaif-tube1692 3 роки тому +215

    "So lets watch some bad things happen..."
    Goes to ad break.

    • @cussedcat28
      @cussedcat28 3 роки тому

      Bad things happen in Philadelphia.

    • @Mad_S
      @Mad_S 3 роки тому

      I read this comment .5 seconds before the ad came on. I love you for that.

    • @odynzeyez6259
      @odynzeyez6259 3 роки тому

      An Ad for Jack Daniels no less

    • @Lindon48
      @Lindon48 3 роки тому

      I hate ads

    • @luckycatdad8369
      @luckycatdad8369 2 роки тому

      You still get ads? Why...

  • @joshswancoat1048
    @joshswancoat1048 3 роки тому +70

    As a Christian that grew up watching Kirk Cameron movies, the statement of his acting career being a crime against humanity made me laugh so hard

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 3 роки тому +4

      I've seen bit of "The Way of the Master", and I can honestly say, I would be just fine never watching Kirk Cameron hold a banana ever again. Unless it was a wild banana, because then he'd be so confused as to why it isn't perfectly shaped for his hand 😂

  • @ctomsky
    @ctomsky 3 роки тому +22

    That's why I respect science's opinions over religion. Science admits when its wrong. It actively tries to disprove itself, instead of actively trying to defend itself.

    • @samus2205
      @samus2205 3 роки тому +1

      @Kelas Enterprise just please look into it. There is tonnes of evidence of a common ancestor between humans and chimpanzees.

    • @MichaelAChristian1
      @MichaelAChristian1 2 місяці тому

      "The reason that the major steps of evolution have NEVER BEEN OBSERVED is that they required millions of years..."- G.Ledyard Stebbins, Harvard Processes of Organic Evolution, p.1.
      "...unique and unrepeatable, like the history of England. This part of the theory [evolution has occurred] is therefore a HISTORICAL theory, about unique events, and unique events are, by DEFINITION, not a part of science, for they are unrepeatable and NOT SUBJECT TO TEST"- Colin Patterson British Museum of Natural History, Evolution, P.45.
      "As far as we know, all changes are in the direction of increasing entropy, of increasing disorder, of increasing randomness, of RUNNING DOWN. Yet the universe was once in a position from which it could run down for trillions of years. How did it get into that position?"- Isaac Asimov, Science Digest. 5/1973,p.76.
      "I think however that we should go further than this and ADMIT that the ONLY ACCEPTED EXPLANATION IS CREATION. I know that is anathema to physicists, as it is to me, but we MUST not reject a theory we do not like if the EXPERIMENTAL EVIDENCE SUPPORTS IT."- H.J. Lipson, U. Of Manchester. Physics Bulletin, vol. 31,1980 p. 138.

  • @masterzombie161
    @masterzombie161 3 роки тому +332

    What’s funny is that everything Mac said, Dennis can easily use it to attack religion. However because he has no response to Macs argument he automatically loses in the eyes of the gang.

    • @lentoperoavanzo4007
      @lentoperoavanzo4007 3 роки тому +79

      Dennis lost in the beginning by defaulting to an appeal to authority as the foundation of his argument. Then all Mac had to do was point out the hypocrisy and undermine his authorities enough to create doubt. It’s the “Al Gore is a millionaire with a massive power bill” of counter arguments.

    • @josephde-haan1074
      @josephde-haan1074 3 роки тому +7

      We have to learn to not use our weaknesses but rather the weaknesses of the claims of others. In this situation I would agree, evolution is wrong. Now prove god. And then it's the book and everything and then you mention books from other religions... and on and on. Actually I'm a big fan of street epistemology.

    • @YankeeD23
      @YankeeD23 3 роки тому +20

      Rob uses this episode to show the irony and hypocrisy of both fields/trains of thought.
      Things is, neither of them can be definitively proven. So Rob as usual uses his twisted sense of humor to mock everything.

    • @Robert-rw5lm
      @Robert-rw5lm 3 роки тому +3

      @@josephde-haan1074 ah yes street epistemology, the missionary work of Atheists

    • @josephde-haan1074
      @josephde-haan1074 3 роки тому +2

      @@Robert-rw5lm Whatever rocks your boat.

  • @gamerboss13
    @gamerboss13 3 роки тому +155

    Weirdly, Aristotle's "eels growing out of mud" is not that crazy an assumption. We didn't understand the eel life cycle until the 21st century because it was basically impossible to track them. RadioLab did a fascinating episode on it.

    • @jk2357
      @jk2357 3 роки тому +1

      The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU 3 роки тому +7

      @@jk2357 Shut up!

    • @HaggisMuncher-69-420
      @HaggisMuncher-69-420 2 роки тому

      So he was wrong?

  • @Xboxkokoko
    @Xboxkokoko 3 роки тому +53

    Hey, thank god, my wife and I have been trying to have a boy for years and now we finally know that she should stop shouting "That's a spicy meatball!" when she's finishing

    • @chrisnealis4270
      @chrisnealis4270 3 роки тому +2

      This is accurate. We have three boys and my wife hates spicy balls. Wait... 🤔

  • @ScorpioHR
    @ScorpioHR 2 роки тому +17

    I like how, basically, all UA-camrs stop in the middle of what they're doing to do a commercial. It reminds me of Truman Show when they're presenting coffee

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 11 місяців тому +1

      "What the hell are you talking about? Who are you talking to?!"

  • @edwardshaw1743
    @edwardshaw1743 3 роки тому +117

    Mac's deconstruction of evolution is the best moment of It's Always Sunny in philadelphia

    • @benvoliothefirst
      @benvoliothefirst 3 роки тому +21

      I have the same problem with his argument as I do with the rest of the show... At first I laugh, then I feel deep existential dread because it's too eerily close to real life.

    • @Tester-sh1mn
      @Tester-sh1mn Рік тому

      @O. M. Or a bad reality…

  • @kaneaquino8295
    @kaneaquino8295 3 роки тому +221

    Next: The It's Always Sunny Cast React to A Philosopher Reacts To Its Always Sunny

    • @ketcherinthery5079
      @ketcherinthery5079 3 роки тому +8

      Id watch it

    • @mmrw
      @mmrw 3 роки тому +3

      I need that in my life

    • @CarynDPrescott
      @CarynDPrescott 3 роки тому +6

      That's why I just tweeted this to them 😁

    • @jk2357
      @jk2357 3 роки тому

      The GOP establishment said NO STIMULUS for our economy... that is, until they got their socialized booze cruise. ua-cam.com/video/Nru19a8cDa4/v-deo.html

  • @Dexanimus
    @Dexanimus 3 роки тому +31

    "As for me, all i know is I know nothing, and that Dee is a bird" - Socrates

  • @grackleboi2523
    @grackleboi2523 3 роки тому +47

    I can confirm that Sweet Dee is indeed a bird.

  • @kevinolsta9955
    @kevinolsta9955 3 роки тому +114

    biologists actually still arent really sure how eels reproduce

    • @truffeltroll6668
      @truffeltroll6668 3 роки тому +29

      "THESE ARE ALL GIRLS"

    • @somkeshav4143
      @somkeshav4143 3 роки тому +14

      @@truffeltroll6668 WHAT'S A N***A GOTTA DO TO GET SOME EEL DIC-

    • @ThePwnedProduction
      @ThePwnedProduction 3 роки тому +12

      I saw a video the other day, they’ve figured it out I believe. Something about swimming all the way across the ocean or something I dunno I watch too much bullshit on this website

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 3 роки тому +4

      @@ThePwnedProduction "I watch too much bullshit on this website" -- I feel you, bro. I feel this too hard.

    • @ThePwnedProduction
      @ThePwnedProduction 3 роки тому +3

      @@IceMetalPunk I feel like I learn a lot... but it all just blurs into one big mess of half facts 😂

  • @SoughtAnarchy
    @SoughtAnarchy 3 роки тому +29

    "So, let's watch some bad things happen-"
    **unskippable UA-cam ad pops up**

  • @GNARGNARHEAD
    @GNARGNARHEAD 3 роки тому +107

    "scientists are at the cutting edge of ignorance"
    I was watching this thing yesterday yesterday on the GEH sciences, and that little gem of a quote came up between plants and fungi
    :)

    • @Jaspertine
      @Jaspertine 3 роки тому +6

      I once read it described as the process of becoming slightly less wrong that you were before.

  • @micsulli19
    @micsulli19 3 роки тому +209

    Bring back Thug Notes!!!!!!

    • @angelcanez4426
      @angelcanez4426 3 роки тому +7

      Yo what it do. LoL

    • @TylerWitucki
      @TylerWitucki 3 роки тому +1

      No, that is an outdated character that only a small percentage of viewers still want.

    • @jlupus8804
      @jlupus8804 3 роки тому +2

      All good things must eventually come to an end, friend :,(
      Also, that segment’s view count never broke 1 million, so there’s no way it’s coming back

    • @JaelaOrdo
      @JaelaOrdo 3 роки тому

      Sadly it won’t happen

    • @denistuohy2535
      @denistuohy2535 3 роки тому +2

      Thug Notes was the best I love that series

  • @Morboxx
    @Morboxx 3 роки тому +60

    That stab at Neil Degrasse Tyson is scientifically proven to be dope!

  • @adeptusmedicus
    @adeptusmedicus 3 роки тому +24

    An interesting hurdle science can face sometimes is when people can't see that what they currently believe is wrong like you were saying. We learned at university about Barry J. Marshall and Robin Warren, they discovered that stomach ulcers and gastritis could be caused by bacteria, not by stress as it was long upheld, but their theory was not believed until Marshall after a gastric biopsy to prove he did not have the H pylori bacterium, then infected himself, became ill with accute gastritis.

  • @deebzscrub
    @deebzscrub 3 роки тому +36

    I love this episode of Always Sunny. Also Frank was definitely at fault and Dee is, in fact, a bird.

  • @braith117
    @braith117 3 роки тому +24

    Interesting thing about Galileo's model was that it was partially discredited at the time because the existing geocentric models were more reliable for predicting some celestial movements than the one Galileo proposed.

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU 3 роки тому

      He also got persecuted by the Vatican for proposing the OUTRAGEOUS IDEA that the Earth wasn't the center of the Universe, as God intended it.

    • @braith117
      @braith117 3 роки тому +4

      @@DarkAngelEU no, there's about as much truth to that as the claim that everyone thought the world was flat before Columbus found the new world. He was arrested because he kept flipping the pope the proverbial bird in his writings at the time.

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU 3 роки тому

      @@braith117 U-huh.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

    • @braith117
      @braith117 3 роки тому +4

      @@DarkAngelEU read past the summary, my dude.

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU 3 роки тому

      @@braith117 I read most of it diagonally, in search of what you were saying, and I couldn't find it, so if you'd be so nice to point it out for me :)

  • @ZetaFuzzMachine
    @ZetaFuzzMachine 3 роки тому +10

    A point I always make when debating this with my skeptical homies is that science is based on replication. Anyone can take a theory they don't like and try to make the experiment again to see if it works. They can make their own hypothesis and present it to be reviewed by others. Then they rant about how that would be useless because of rigid academics, and I agree, but that is a whole different story. The thing is that fanatics never bother to put the effort in actually disproving anything because they know they wouldn't stand a chance.

  • @pinnedcomment8614
    @pinnedcomment8614 3 роки тому +92

    Random Fact: Technically, Lego is the largest tire manufacturer in the world

    • @deadlyninja112
      @deadlyninja112 3 роки тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 love this

    • @SamShowOnline
      @SamShowOnline 3 роки тому +8

      It's also the largest manufacturer of legos.

    • @SamShowOnline
      @SamShowOnline 3 роки тому +13

      Also it's only called Lego if it's made in the Lego region of France.

    • @t.h.mcelroy6597
      @t.h.mcelroy6597 3 роки тому +2

      @@SamShowOnline Your work is underappreciated, my friend 💛

    • @marcusbird4877
      @marcusbird4877 3 роки тому

      @@SamShowOnline No. thats wrong

  • @pooprscuprtroopr7701
    @pooprscuprtroopr7701 3 роки тому +42

    Damn I high and that warby Parker ad was long as hell.

  • @djkb125
    @djkb125 3 роки тому +5

    There are so many debates in this show! I’d love to see you cover more of them

  • @buttonmasher7615
    @buttonmasher7615 3 роки тому +40

    Oh boy. More of my new favorite series.

    • @sz8526
      @sz8526 3 роки тому

      Do you mind checking out my video on the best scenes from Always sunny:)

    • @deadlyninja112
      @deadlyninja112 3 роки тому

      Exactly they tear these apart lol

  • @RealLukeWilson
    @RealLukeWilson 3 роки тому +60

    Honestly, the rhetorics of Mac’s arguments are so layered in sneaky fallacies that Socrates would have a field day unpacking that whole can of worms.

  • @prodigalson193
    @prodigalson193 3 роки тому +4

    Remember that there was a time in the past century when medical "experts" told us that smoking cigarettes is actually a healthy habit. Turned out they were in the pockets of tobacco companies. Sometimes "the science is settled" by the highest bidder.

    • @noahsmith3581
      @noahsmith3581 Рік тому

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but they did not actually say that. There was a time when they had no solid view on whether smoking would kill you (because enough research hadn't been done yet) but that's not the same as commendation.

    • @BookofCommonTerror
      @BookofCommonTerror 29 днів тому

      @@noahsmith3581I hear the ads on Old Time Radio with some frequency, various doctors recommending this cigarette and claiming how healthy it is.

  • @indigo6067
    @indigo6067 3 роки тому +16

    Mac's cool shirts are totally underappreciated.

  • @ddjdz93
    @ddjdz93 3 роки тому +12

    Faith V Reason has become an invalid "either or" argument in modern times and exists solely as a political argument. Is this a worthy TL;DR?

  • @dainsmith6871
    @dainsmith6871 3 роки тому +32

    Video request: Deep or Dumb? The TV show “Lost.” I recently rewatched this as an adult with philosophy knowledge. It’s pretty all over the place intellectually and long. But, they reference lots of philosophy, theology, and literature. A character is named John Lock, Hume, another Rousseau. Dostoyevsky’s work is mentioned, Bible passages are mentioned, Dharma, and the list goes on.

    • @jamilabrownie
      @jamilabrownie 3 роки тому +2

      I agree with this. I want them to do Lost.

    • @satan6412
      @satan6412 3 роки тому +2

      Lost was a waste of my life.

    • @DarkAngelEU
      @DarkAngelEU 3 роки тому +1

      @@satan6412 Lost only started being a waste of our lives at Season 4. The first three seasons are solid.

  • @godmademefunky95
    @godmademefunky95 3 роки тому +14

    You missed out an important detail
    What was the name of Mac's plank?

  • @jackcothron7742
    @jackcothron7742 3 роки тому +9

    "Your paragon is failing us man" -Charlie Kelly

  • @number1sun
    @number1sun 3 роки тому +7

    I love that you referred to Mac as Ronald; deep cut sir!

  • @saherkhan3480
    @saherkhan3480 3 роки тому +1

    I really appreciate how the editor lined up the tick with the square in the background so perfectly

  • @jenniferrusso2467
    @jenniferrusso2467 3 роки тому +5

    The difference is that science comes with a promise: if you were to attempt this yourself, you’d likely get the same result. It’s not about trusting others; it’s that if I felt like it, I could see the proof for myself. And if I don’t feel like doing the experiment myself, I can trust that other people who have dedicated their lives to the it did.

    • @spmil999
      @spmil999 3 роки тому

      Where I struggle is when science starts touring theoretical truths. I always go back to the fact that science can't explain the big bang ~ nothing comes from nothing. I have no issue with evolution, but I think it takes less faith to believe in some sort of cosmic deity vs a big bang from nothing creating life and consciousness. I understand there have been a report stating it has been theoretically proven that something can indeed come from nothing. But once again, theoretically proven is what?
      Ultimately, I believe both sides of the coin take some sort of faith to believe. I think a creator of some sort making us unable to truly understand consciousness or forever to be more fathomable.

    • @jenniferrusso2467
      @jenniferrusso2467 3 роки тому +1

      @@spmil999 I understand where you’re coming from but I do disagree. While we don’t know what caused the Big Bang, we certainly know it existed. We can see it at the edges of our observable universe (where the light is just now reaching us from soon after the Big Bang), and we can even see it in our everyday lives. Static on the radio and on old TVs is actually radio waves from the Big Bang. And scientists, other than while making guesses, don’t claim to know anything about how the Big Bang started. They don’t claim to know anything without evidence which is another difference between faith and science. Things that are theoretical only are not often thought of as true unless the evidence tells us it’s the most correct answer through years of theorizing, similar to how we’ve known about black holes theoretically since Einstein even though we only just saw one in the past few years.

  • @ShoopDaWhoop781
    @ShoopDaWhoop781 Рік тому +6

    This is one of the best clips from a comedy of any sort. Brilliant, I sent this to my professor for an intro to philosophy and religion course and he was cool enough to play it for the class lmao

  • @ericjohnson6154
    @ericjohnson6154 3 роки тому +5

    Science is built on faith.

    • @detltu
      @detltu 3 роки тому +4

      For a philosopher he kind of glosses over this point. He says science is based on institutions, and peer reviewed studies etc, but your acceptance of science is still built on faith in those institutions to uphold the standards they claim to hold.

    • @seantv1510
      @seantv1510 3 роки тому +2

      Atheistic scientism religious fundamatics are just as brainwashed as any other religious cult and they will never admit what they believe is a religion, quite sad. Much of the world is based upon carefully crafted philosophical dogma. It's unprovable and a stretch that the community takes on faith and faith alone. Science without the scientific method is just philosophy and yet nearly every worshiper of "science" doesn't realize it. They cannot even cite the scientific method, let alone understand how most of the alleged "sciences" never actually use the scientific method. They push pseudoscience and take advantage of its followers that believe they are hearing something that is practically concrete and scientifically proven by following the scientific method when in actuality they are being manipulated by heavily funded institutions that are gathering up the largest congregation this world has ever seen. The absurdity that is the minds of modern man.

  • @SirFooplesTheThird
    @SirFooplesTheThird Рік тому +4

    The funniest thing about this scene is that that when I watched it at first I was 100% convinced by him only to later laugh my ass off at how insane it is

    • @groomersgotohell
      @groomersgotohell Рік тому +2

      it sounds like you just flip flop based on whatever argument you heard last. good sheep.

  • @denotwos
    @denotwos 2 роки тому +1

    This was a fantastic video. Thank you. It's really nice to see a reaction video made by someone who knows the series and isn't reacting to a single episode without background context

  • @lindashrugemoji9351
    @lindashrugemoji9351 3 роки тому +13

    if michael has a doctorate, does that also make him youtube’s other dr. mike?

  • @mr.waffles8739
    @mr.waffles8739 3 роки тому +7

    Honestly I don't think Frank should pay for any damage to the interior, you assume a certain amount of risks when getting into a car, if Dennis was drinking a cup of coffee as a lot of people do when driving, that is a foreseeable risk that you may spi someone's coffee if you hit them, but eating a bowl of cereal? Thats just irresponsible for someone to do while driving their car, you need both hands to hold it, it doesn't have a lid, and im not even sure how someone would keep it from spilling while just driving around normally, Dennis should have never had that bowl of cereal, and it's his irresponsible behavior that put his interior at risk

  • @ancientcityfatbasterd2846
    @ancientcityfatbasterd2846 2 роки тому +2

    I think what Mac gets to is the epistemological certainty with which either belief can be held by an individual. So while there is a larger discussion on how science and religion can or can't coexist, the certainty with which the individual can hold either belief is in question. While the scope of Christianity is too broad to cover how each can arrive at their particular end, for most people the belief in evolution resides on an appeal to authority. What Mac does is actually somewhat brilliant because what he does demonstrate effectively is that if the authority can be wrong, you can not appeal to them as an infallible guide (demonstrating why appeal to authority is an actual fallacy). So he reduces the argument to faith in books written by men a person doesn't know about conclusions from data or faith in books written by men a person doesn't know about historical events.

  • @thehumanshtpost6632
    @thehumanshtpost6632 3 роки тому +2

    For me, I see this more as a way to show people who believe "faith" or non-scientific beliefs are "dumb" that there is more to it than that. Just showing how, like you said, faith and science aren't contradicting. They can co-exist in someone's beliefs, thoughts or opinions without being contradictory.

  • @glenmosier8644
    @glenmosier8644 3 роки тому +4

    I'm pretty sure Mac is calmly and rationally setting up the framework and arguing for Pessimistic Meta-Induction. A true philosopher of our times!!

    • @jonathonvandenhombergh4684
      @jonathonvandenhombergh4684 3 роки тому +2

      Yes! I always think of the PMI when I rewatch Mac’s argument. It’s too perfect, I’m surprised the video didn’t mention it (unless it did and I missed it).

  • @quintessenceSL
    @quintessenceSL 3 роки тому +34

    No mention of epistemology?
    For shame.

    • @TheSkullConfernece
      @TheSkullConfernece 3 роки тому +3

      @@thotslayer9914 lol, some people actually think that.

    • @kwahujakquai6726
      @kwahujakquai6726 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheSkullConfernece Very sad for sure. It explains how easy for some to become QAnon believers.

    • @kwahujakquai6726
      @kwahujakquai6726 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheSkullConfernece Bayesian reasoning and critical thinking skills are a mystery for most US citizens.

  • @darthballz0532
    @darthballz0532 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve been a follower of Wisecrack for a while now and I gotta say I kinda love this new series. Keep it up!

  • @davidbjacobs3598
    @davidbjacobs3598 3 роки тому +6

    19:20 Uh actually it's Dee's fault, and SHE should pay for the damages.

  • @BadassRaiden
    @BadassRaiden 3 роки тому +12

    A Philosopher Reacts.. Is this like, a new 'series', or specifically titled segments? Cuz im down to watch a philosopher react to a bunch anything!! Also you should do an piece on Jim Jones.

  • @dudenoway5448
    @dudenoway5448 3 роки тому +6

    Nobody can replace Jared but dammit Michael, every time you make my degree feel less useless, you get a little closer.

  • @mattroxursoul
    @mattroxursoul 2 роки тому +1

    One thing about science is that it is not really an echo chamber. People want to prove stuff wrong all of the time. They want to take someones idea and dunk on it and put it up as a poster.

  • @Alex-oy6wb
    @Alex-oy6wb 10 місяців тому +2

    17:10 “because scientific knowledge isn’t a matter of faith”
    The foundations of science are based on scientific method. Scientific method inherently takes certain assumptions. Assumptions that are not readily explained. Some of these assumptions are:
    Reality is objective & consistent
    and ppl’s perception of reality is accurate.
    Taking things for granted or assumed IS a matter of faith.

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 3 роки тому +20

    I just always try to remember that whether it's religion or science, it's all furthered by the intentions of people.
    AND YOU DON'T TRUST PEOPLE!

    • @tempesttking5715
      @tempesttking5715 3 роки тому

      Great point

    • @pastlife960
      @pastlife960 2 роки тому +4

      But science has a system of quality assurance called peer review which ensures that the vast majority of what is published is accurate to the date it was released. Religion just spouts bullshit without any evidence or oversight whatsoever.

    • @geofff.3343
      @geofff.3343 2 роки тому +5

      @@pastlife960 Oh boy, you're going to learn just how far behind peer review is today, aren't you?
      Yes, peer review is a great system, but it's also a costly system, and there is a severe lack of the falsifying repetitious experimentation required to peer review a lot of the published findings. Seldom do scientists get funding to just redo the experiment to see if it still holds up.
      Also, your dismissal of religion really points to a belief in scientism and not actually scientific rationale. There are whole centuries long debates on religion, arguing fundamental underlying concepts, by the religion's practitioners themselves.
      The point is that be skeptical of any cause, be open, because at the end of the day it's furthered by people and people are flawed. Whether that's a preacher or a scientist not getting funding because the rest of the scientific community has decided to blacklist him.

    • @BlueGamingRage
      @BlueGamingRage Місяць тому

      @@pastlife960 most studies aren't repeated and when they are, the results don't match the original experiment at all. This is especially true within social sciences

  • @pistolen87
    @pistolen87 3 роки тому +3

    "You keep using this word "jabroni" and... it's awesome!"

  • @vbkllr
    @vbkllr 3 роки тому +1

    i LOVE this video! this is the kind of content that got me to subscribe to wisecrack in the first place! more of this, please :)

  • @Kevinterell
    @Kevinterell 3 роки тому

    Ok, keep doing videos like this, this was actually pretty cool!

  • @mythosandlogos
    @mythosandlogos 3 роки тому +33

    Great work. Especially emphasizing that faith and reason can, and often do, complement each other.
    Mac is correct that we have limits to our knowledge, and in questioning the current paradigm, but fails to provide anything more useful system. He’s tearing down without building anything up.
    It’s ironic that the endpoint of his logic would be some kind of radical postmodernism in which absolutely nothing can be true! Instead, he should be using the various tools at his disposal (philosophy, science, theology, and others) to create the fullest picture of the truth that he can.

    • @s.l.3281
      @s.l.3281 3 роки тому +5

      I'm glad he didn't. When philosophers try to bring an amalgamation of religion and science as a new way of looking at the world, we end up getting a dark, twisted potential of a paradigm, where people like Shapiro and Peterson carefully use science to legitimize the sexism, racism, homophobia, and other forms of hate that are derived from many religions.

    • @s.l.3281
      @s.l.3281 3 роки тому +2

      They unfortunately take Mac's logic one step further than it needs to go, and they do it so well and with so much "charisma" that they end up messing up the value systems of thousands of (mostly) men. It's yucky. Blah.

    • @DyLeN17
      @DyLeN17 3 роки тому +2

      @@s.l.3281 discrimination is natural tho
      Almost every culture discriminates against others and even within their own system there is always discrimination it's a natural part of life

    • @BetaRed
      @BetaRed 2 роки тому +2

      @@s.l.3281
      Cope

  • @RetroNationSociety
    @RetroNationSociety 3 роки тому +7

    A point that many fanatics miss is that theology thought has gone through several paradigms shifts as well. To speak about any religious faith as if it has always thought that way and not changed over time is wrong.

    • @s.l.3281
      @s.l.3281 3 роки тому +2

      Yes true, but its path is not based on new evidence overriding old/bad/no evidence, like science's path is. Faith's path, and staying power, is based on its ability to adjust itself to not being too offensive to the current cultural climate. While science adds and edits, faith edits and removes.

  • @dylangrey2003
    @dylangrey2003 3 роки тому +2

    I think it makes a good point. That science could and often times is dogmatic as with most institutions. Science shouldn’t be followed blindly and should be questioned.

    • @riffsthatkill2180
      @riffsthatkill2180 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, and it is questioned. That's how it works. Science actually doesn't say, ever, "this cannot be questioned" even when describing "laws" of science which are not really "laws". It's just a term we use to describe how matter behaves.

    • @BlueGamingRage
      @BlueGamingRage Місяць тому

      @@riffsthatkill2180 Mac isn't really criticizing science, he is criticizing how people like Dennis use science. They are told things by "experts" and accept it on faith. Because you have to, at some point

  • @Dacornboii
    @Dacornboii 3 роки тому

    Right when I’m rewatching the seasons! Nice!

  • @rafterman5072
    @rafterman5072 3 роки тому +8

    You're wrong actually...The whole thing is Dee's fault.

  • @alexpolicastro5330
    @alexpolicastro5330 3 роки тому +4

    Big Bang Theory was created by a Priest.

    • @BadukTov
      @BadukTov 3 роки тому +2

      underrated comment

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 3 роки тому

      It was. Unfortunately, many people try to use that fact to say "see? Religion is right!" But the thing is, the priest (Georges Lemaître) formulated his hypothesis (that would later become a theory) not based on religion or faith. He was also an astronomer, and he came up with the idea after finding observable evidence of it -- specifically, evidence that the universe is currently expanding. And t didn't become a theory until tons of other testing happened and tons of other evidence was found (redshift, the CMB, etc.).
      I know that's not what you were trying to say with this comment, but enough people do try to say it that I thought it was worth clarifying. Because although a religious person discovered the Big Bang, he did t through science and not through faith or religion.

    • @OisinMcHugh
      @OisinMcHugh 3 роки тому

      @@IceMetalPunk Point is science and the Catholic Church do not actually contradict one another.
      Science and reason are not contradicting

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 3 роки тому

      @@OisinMcHugh Science and reason are not contradictory. However, science and religion certainly are. The Catholic church promotes the Bible, and the Bible says to believe things which are empirically false. That's the antithesis of science.

  • @sheyannev2757
    @sheyannev2757 3 роки тому +2

    God that one time he randomly said Ronald instead of Mac threw me off so bad 😂😂😂

  • @creativejob
    @creativejob 3 роки тому

    reminds me of an essay i read by Kierkegaard called "on the difference between an apostle and a genius"

  • @shmimtit1781
    @shmimtit1781 3 роки тому +3

    I'm almost done with my BA in Philosophy and I couldn't be more happy to have chosen it

    • @samdessino8635
      @samdessino8635 3 роки тому

      I am currently a studying fine arts major but heavily considered a degree in Philosophy. Can you tell me about what drove you to it and your future plans?

  • @babybone95
    @babybone95 3 роки тому +3

    Last minute of the video: “It’s absolutely Frank’s fault !”😂😂😂 Which of course, was how the whole debate began. Sweet vid👍🏼

  • @thenobody9755
    @thenobody9755 Рік тому

    Opening line of this video is a summary of my "planned" career path...
    Glad to see Michael is still alive and that the show is doing well

  • @xxxgh0stzxxx624
    @xxxgh0stzxxx624 2 роки тому +2

    Fanaticism can cut the other way, as illustrated by Dennis. He has blind faith in the scientists of his time, and he doesn’t bother to do any reasoning of his own

  • @monitoredactivity8649
    @monitoredactivity8649 3 роки тому +6

    Just what I wanted, to stare at a random dude talking into a microphone while I listen 💀

  • @dainsmith6871
    @dainsmith6871 3 роки тому +10

    As a PhD student in Biblical Studies, and a lover and reader of philosophy, I am so glad you did this take. It’s sad so many people think they have to choose between critical thinking and scientific inquiry and faith and religion. When, in reality, critical thinking and science can strengthen and refine a religious faith, and similarly, religious faith can refine and strengthen science and philosophy. As you point out, tons of philosophers have dealt with this.

  • @SpikeSpiegel-hk7tr
    @SpikeSpiegel-hk7tr 6 місяців тому +1

    While Mac’s overall theme of rejecting evolution entirely is certainly flawed, he makes a very important point about the fact that the average person really doesn’t look into the “numbers and figures” themselves, you have to trust the scientists, which has led to multiple fraudulent findings that were taught for years and even decades such as the Piltdown man or Ernest Haeckel’s drawings

  • @LifeofConnor69
    @LifeofConnor69 3 роки тому +1

    Shoutout to the narrator it was hilarious how calmly he said “Bitches”

  • @DerDieDasBoB
    @DerDieDasBoB 3 роки тому +4

    Nice show, would love to see: "Lost Highway - A Philosopher Reacts"

  • @teej008
    @teej008 3 роки тому +4

    I can scientifically prove that you should never look an Irishman in the eyes.

  • @victoriamasamoros6552
    @victoriamasamoros6552 3 роки тому

    I love the video, I'd like to have some sources for those quotes to further read on the subjects :D

  • @AaronSherman
    @AaronSherman 3 роки тому +1

    The problem with the idea that religion and faith stopped being antagonist when the Enlightenment rolled around is that the academic structures that made the Enlightenment possible were Church institutions. The Church's university system, the philosophical underpinnings of the scientific revolution that came from the likes of Duns Scotus and Ockham, and the preservation of knowledge that the monastic system had been performing for centuries all set the stage for the blossoming of the intellectualism that followed. We can't ignore the horrors that the Church brought to bear (like the Crusades and Inquisition) but we also shouldn't ignore the achievements that they directly fostered.

  • @Jatt2613
    @Jatt2613 3 роки тому +4

    18 seasons of Sunny! Woo!

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo 3 роки тому +3

    “True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing.”
    Socrates > Aristotle

  • @kyoukishi7153
    @kyoukishi7153 3 роки тому +2

    This reminds me of what I understand was the original idea on the "flat earther" thing - going back to personal discovery rather than seeking to deny science itself.
    As we know, a misunderstanding (or disagreement for argument's sake) of the science leads to what many of us believe to be troubling behaviors. Just as Mac's apparent misunderstanding of his own religion devolves into a "political war" or fanaticism as defined in the video.
    Maybe we could learn to be humble (in faith and science) and try to agree there are things we may not understand yet - and that's ok because it could be understood in the future. In the meantime, we all do the best we can with what we have - and that could be praiseworthy of each of us already.

  • @LaBlueSkuld
    @LaBlueSkuld 3 роки тому +2

    When you first said "Max Planck" I thought you said "Mac's Plank" and I was trying to remember when Mac had a board of wood in the episode.

  • @SamShowOnline
    @SamShowOnline 3 роки тому +5

    Actually Dennis is at fault. He knew the risk.

  • @qjames0077
    @qjames0077 3 роки тому +24

    I miss Jared.
    Not the same without him

    • @monkeydude2424
      @monkeydude2424 3 роки тому +5

      Fr doesnt feel the same when its bobs burger talking to me

    • @007MrYang
      @007MrYang 3 роки тому +11

      You guys watch this for the host?

    • @monkeydude2424
      @monkeydude2424 3 роки тому +7

      @@007MrYang i watch it for the plot

    • @fangal12
      @fangal12 3 роки тому +6

      Much like Dennis, Jared is a golden god

    • @JackSparrow-re4ql
      @JackSparrow-re4ql 3 роки тому +2

      He had a way of making you care about the subject matter.

  • @rubpust6968
    @rubpust6968 3 роки тому +1

    Maaaan, THAT was a great video. You made me think and consider and use reason....while laughing my ass off. Well done, sir.

  • @armpit_farts7327
    @armpit_farts7327 2 роки тому +1

    Not gonna lie, I had to rewind because i thought you said " I dont believe in aviation" lmfaoooo. Great video dude, super informative. Love anything that teaches me something!!! keep it up, there is PLENTY of Sunny to try and use to explain the philosophy of people. lmao.

  • @LordHollow
    @LordHollow 3 роки тому +3

    The way Mac set up Dennis in the dialogue is absolutely brilliant. Love this show.

  • @cartoonhistory353
    @cartoonhistory353 3 роки тому +9

    wheres dude with long hair

  • @MonkeyspankO
    @MonkeyspankO 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite candidate for modern stupidity is how many people don't seem to realize you need to vent your home or office. As in literally exchange the air inside, with the air outside. Breathing out CO2 in the enclosed space you inhabit and never venting it is not a good thing (unless you're NASA and have CO2 scrubbers). You wouldn't believe the number of people I've tried to explain this to and just gave up.

  • @rodrigobertini8257
    @rodrigobertini8257 3 роки тому +1

    When I watched this episode, for about two minutes Mac actually sold his idea to me, like Charlie said: "reasonable doubt" hahahahahah

  • @arianaink100
    @arianaink100 3 роки тому +3

    Okay but your eels growing out of mud comment made sense to Aristotle and others at that time considering we are still unaware of the birth rituals surrounding eels In the wild in the ocean.
    yes it was ridiculous but considering we only know generally what part of the ocean eels are born in because they migrate and scientists were able to calculate smaller and smaller eel young until they were practically a few measly cm to inches long we still dont know where eels in the wild have sex and have young. I think Aristotle thought eels were asexually reproducing after they like burrow in mud or smt. But his lack of understanding back then led to modern scientific discoveries of eels even if we still don’t know

  • @JawnLouis
    @JawnLouis 3 роки тому +23

    Mac reminds me of talking to Jehovah’s Witness family

  • @themiddleones11
    @themiddleones11 Рік тому +1

    15:53
    I was actually going back between the 2 at one point 😄

  • @mvpd98
    @mvpd98 2 роки тому

    Definitely one of the best episodes. Easily my fav 🤣