DUCATI WHEELS ON A YAMAHA? Yamaha XJR1300 Shoogly Shed Motors
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2023
- DUCATI WHEELS ON A XJR1300? Yamaha XJR1300 Shoogly Shed Motors
After more than a year, I've finally finished off fitting the Ducati GT1000 wheels... but yet another EXPENSIVE issue crops up! - Авто та транспорт
Wouldn’t be a custom bike if it wasn’t custom. We don’t make mistakes, we just learn. Enjoying this XJR series. Keep it up.
First job has to be to set the wheel central in the frame and aligned with the front wheel and fix it in that position
Second job is to align the rear wheel sprocket and therefore the chain with the engine sprocket. you can get away with spacering the rear wheel sprocket off the carrier by up to 10mm or maching about 5mm off the back of the gearbox sprocket
Third job is to fit the disc (brembo on Ducati wheel) and then align the centre of the brake caliper with the centreline of the disc, this may involve manufacture of a bespoke caliper holder - 10 or 12mm aluminium plate should suffice for that.
It needs to be in that order a) for handling, b) for ensuring the chain can safely deliver the power and c) because a bespoke caliper bracket is a lot easier to make than a cush drive for the rear sprocket
Personally I would look at making or get a billet brake carrier that bit longer with spacers to align it with ya Brembo disc.
On the plus side, that wheel looks great on the bike! As we say in Hong Kong ‘guy yau’ (add oil)… basically means keep goin’ son!
That sigh at the end...we've all done that in a shop.
All part of life’s rich tapestry Euan, pretty sure it’s nothing you can’t overcome 👍👍😎
It’s not ideal, but honestly… the build just got even more interesting as to the UA-cam content? Very little solace I’m sure, but half the fun of watching is seeing how you fabricate your solutions. I am relegated to parts off the shelf and lack the skills and patience to do anything like what you do. Artistry in action and problem solving issues is good entertainment. Sorry about the delay and difficulty, but looking forward to more solutions. I think I’ll pick up some merchandise to try to help. Cheers from Colorado, USA Euan.
Thank you for the kind words! 🙏🏻 cheers from Scotland!
Thanks for sharing the cock ups. These are the things that help us all learn from each other so we get better at what we love.
No better time than now, to learn sand casting your own calliper mount 😁
Nice work, Good to have lathe in workshop, speeds up aligning and making custom stuff! I struggle with same issue on my CB750 build as I want to put way wider Kawasaki rim on it...
A tough one Shoogly, can safely say it’s not my fault this time 😅
You could swap out the bearings from the wheel and source a bearing with the correct OD for the wheel and ID for the Yamaha axle
Go watch the first few episodes on the wheels ✌🏻
Good work i had the same problem on one of my build, just make a new caliper hanger from a 1/2" peace of Dural cut out and file by hand the only awkward bit is the spindle hole drilling but you could get an engineering firm to do that if you dont have the facility to carry it out yourself then make make some spacers to centralise it.
I feel that heavy sigh mate.......
What about standard size disc for the wheel & then custom caliper hanger. Then you can get any disc that your budget reaches to.
wounder, why not a spacer for the offset for the width needed, 6 sunken holes to fit the hub and 6 outer threaded to fit a stock xjr disc
Big option in my opinion would be either the brake and carrier from the duke or use a spacer for the disc and see if the oem version of the xjr would fit
Why not shim the caliber out to align with the mounted rotor, you have the skillset to make one of those
Would the Ducatti carrier and caliper fit?
Awesome!! its all a learning curve. keep up the good work pal
Maybe you could make an adapter for the brake disk to compensate the offset, and maybe to fit a disk with the correct diameter. I made something similar to fit spoked wheels from a bmw f650gs to my bmw g310gs. I had to compensate a 10 mm offset at the front wheel!
Maybe it might be easier/cheaper to get a rear caliper for the Ducati and make it fit the XJR?
Caliper type hasn't really got anything to do with it 👍🏻
Get a adapter cnc machined up
Check out jaxs garage, they have an adapter to mount cbr Brembo discs to k100 bmw wheels
Definitely an option I'm considering.
Would it not be easier to fabricate a new caliper bracket, which you could make to suit the offset and measurements of the discs?
A decent option I'm considering 👍🏻
Oh no Dude! Noooo….
You need a few bottles of good Scotch - I say ‘good’ be cause you want to localise the areas of hurt (i.e. not your head) - or a few bottles of a ‘big beer’ whatever works for you), a tub of Vaseline, and to relax - not tense - your sphincter … 😉
😂😂
Shoogs, is that rear wheel not well off to the left now, considering the difference in the size of spacers on each side?
It's not quite what it seems on video. The wheel has a different offset to the XJR wheel so the tyre is still square to the bike.
Would it be easier maybe cheaper to get a secondhand hanger and caliper for the Ducati?
What he said 😬
I don’t have any experience in the availability of parts diagrams for Ducati. But. If you can get a hold of a parts diagram for the GT1000 , then there is a chance to start x ref the brake parts. See if the caliper hanger was used on any other model of Ducati. If you can get a hold of one, beg, borrow, steal to test fit?
Just one other thought while watching / listening. The front and rear wheel need to be on the centreline and then chain alignment adjusted to suit? I imagine you are going to get some interesting handling if the wheels are not inline 😬
@@boozehound8723It's not quite what it seems on video. The wheel has a different offset to the XJR wheel so the tyre is still square to the bike.
Custom caliper bracket maybe a better route.
Agree
Couldn't the Ducati swing arm that goes with that wheel be made to fit the XJR, then all of the parts for the Ducati like the spindle, disks and callipers could be used?
Pretty sure the Ducati is single sided 😳
What he said ^ 😂
Sell the Brembo to offset the cost , like you said . Use a Ducati Disk , Brake Cylinder and Hanger for that Wheel modified to fit , possibly ?
All options I've considered🙈
@@ShooglyShedMotors Thought you would have , but I sometimes , when in a problem , get Tunnel Vision . Love those Wheels ,
Why not make a new caliper mount instead of a new disc?
A decent option I'm considering!
@@ShooglyShedMotors I needed a crank pulley holder for my car, but I couldn't find it in the uk and would've cost over 400 quid from the US. I found a machinist on fb marketplace, made a simple drawing, got a piece of steel and he milled it to dimensions. It cost me 110 quid because the steel I gave him turned out to be partially hardened, which made things a bit difficult. A caliper mount isn't complicated ad will be a lot cheaper to make once, than getting a custom disc regularly.