I grabbed this on reset and brought some friends into a custom. The thing does full hipfire damage at 30 meters and is pretty consistent. It's not great by any means but it was a lot of fun to use!
Use strongholds with a throne cleaver with valiant charge and you will be laughing gleefully whenever you see the entire team after rounding a corner. I've walked straight into groups of five and gotten out alive while my entire team was capping B or something
I'm sad to see that this gun underperforms. A legendary hip-fire centric hand cannon would be really cool, but it seems like only TLW is juiced enough to perform well, since it's exotic and tailored for that niche. I will say that I have a Bottom Dollar with Hipfire Grip and Opening Shot, and it's been a while, but I really enjoyed using that. It felt like a good combo that let me get some clutch shots, and opening shot was useful for non-hipfire too so it felt a little more versatile and balanced.
Hope you've been farming Kalli then since the newly updated Nation of Beasts (yes, i'm aware it's a 140 rpm) has both hip fire and offhand with a higher mag cap. Might like it.
banshee sold a much better role of this gun right on season launch. it had tunnel vision and kill clip, and overall the gun feels really good with this role
Was looking for this comment. He definitely didn't get the roll everyone seemed to be telling him to get. Wonder how different this video would have been
The stats and perks on recent world drop weapons have been suboptimal recently. We went from having bangers in witchqueen to now having guns like the Conarach and this 120. The AR is so laughably bad that Cool Guy made a video on it.
The new craftable Nation of Beasts with Full Bore, Accurized and Enhanced Hipfire Grip and Offhand Strike can get nearly 41 meters of hipfire range when Offhand Strike is active.
So about procing lucky pants w/o swaping weapons, pull out ghost then start firing. You still "ready" the hand canon without swapping off it, same trick works with Ace of Spade's Momento Morri.
In the beginning when you were commenting on the flinch from falling the animation is purely visual and your bullets will go where your gun will settle, similar to the old No Land Beyond visual-only flinch.
@@CrushableDread It just doesn't bother me as much as it does you because I've played a lot more older games than you that does the same thing, if you played anything different it probably wouldn't bother you as much
@@jonak.loves.u it feels weird seeing hunters use blink as well. It would have been nice to have blink as a titan as well. If other classes are getting our grenades why not let us have other classes movement.
The last wish weapons can drop with deepsight from the free Wishing wall chests, so even if you don't raid you can (eventually with good rng) get a crafted gun
I wish they would bring back the Old fashioned or a new version of dire promise. An god roll old fashioned with explosive payload and either range or stability masterwork was just.....muah, chef's kiss 🔥🔥
Just got a random drop of this gun with Zen Moment/ Timed Payload. Yet to try it, but I'm hoping that this gun becomes a decent dueling weapon with the perk combo, we'll see though
While this gun is bad, I am loving how they are making these pairing perks. When messenger comes out I’d love to hear your thoughts about the Discord & Harmony perk pairing on it Cam.
If you can get one with adagio a two tabs without a reload, the one that I have on my account is adagio and tunnel vision it’s really good and the decreased rate of fire doesn’t really affect you as long as your peak shotting
This. Most seasonal guns are mediocre but have at least one interesting perk combo that sets them apart. In this case, it brings back the power fantasy (almost) of 2 tapping 120s everywhere. I miss having a backup to my TLW that could compete and win against hard hitting pulses and scouts
Do give Gemini Jester a shot with the new Hunter Strand Aspect, its just an absolute blast of a time. The amount of times I've killed shotgun apes with the decoy is just... wow. It might not last as long as long or weaken them like a smoke bomb, but it gives you access to higher AE thanks to Strand.
I picked up the roll Banshee had the day before this one was released since it had Tunnel Vision / Kill Clip. Haven't used it yet, but I hope it's nice.
"They hurt my favorite builds too" bro this one hit me fr, I mean I been usin' stasis warlock with Winter's Guile and then they nerfed it for NO reason ;-;
to be fair, you should still try and grab one cause it's the first arc 120 since d2 launch. seriously, look it up, the first 120 arc HC in 6+ years lmao
The problem for me is that 120's have no place in the sandbox. AT LEAST 180's have decent flinch and somewhat secure ranges, but theres literally no range for 120's to occupy.
I have a Perpetualis with the same perks (need to get it enhanced) and man, I WISH it worked as well I expected. It juest makes me wonder "why am I not just using Tommy's if I want to hip fire?"
Im impressed with stompies! Never thought i'd say this, but it was a fun nerf! It defenetly feels like a nerf, but the need to avoid using dodge feels like it enhances skill, so it becomes more like an emergency reload instead of a movement ability. At this point i'd love for bungie to commit to it. Take away the dodge entirely, but after x ammount of kills, it activates the "side effect" of the dodge, like 2 kills banks a free reload (basically a mag reset once it reaches 0) or after 3 kills you get the melee back, and even the radiant from the solar one after 4 or 5 kills! X5-7 the values for PvE, it would be so much fun imo...
Hey Cammy! I wanted to ask you something. I’m not really that good at pvp, but at the start of the new season pvp felt kinda clanky and much more sweaty really. Is it my skill issue or bungie cooked something malicious? It’s just not clicking with me in this season. Also I think I became too adjusted to connection based mm in Guardian games playlist .
idk man, i'm having fun """cosplaying""" as Sjur Eido with Adamantine Brace and Wish-Ender. although i'm not exactly going up against the best players ever, i'm in gold 3 atm and half of the people just want to lane with their sniper and bottom score every game :p
I’m interested in learning the last word on M&K, and I wanted to ask since I’m a warlock. Is having an exotic like the lucky pants needed to do well, or could I possibly do well without it?
Used it for a while and it was honestly tons of fun. I put about 100 kills on it and it brought me back to halo 3/reach days. But yeah it’s kinda ass lmao
10:45 As a hardcore pvp controller player I also have a hard time with flinch more than aiming itself. Some say its my aa..maybe lol but yeah flinch sucks so i tried to build into anti-flinch whenever i can
Last day of trials I came across two people kill boosting. One player on our team was ressing us to allow one person on the other team to just kill us before we could do anything. First time i've come across it and man it was annoying. I suspect they were just solo queing at the same time and hopefully getting into the same match.
See, what interests me is Nation of Beasts. This combo, enhanced, on a 140 edit: oh, you noticed too edit2: I've been saying LW's problem is flinch on k&m for so long man. Even though I'm a worse shot than you, I'm more accurate with it than any other gun, except when flinched!
Solo q'd to ascendant the afternoon after the night I did my placements and didn't have trouble on matching, is the issue with queuing just on PC? Or did I get lucky?
It's because Comp isn't a true rank system. There's a skill bracket running in the background. Your queue to Ascendant even when at the same rank as Cammy (Gold, Plat etc) will have an entirely different skill pool of players as his. As a result, you could have two players at Ascendant rank and one is significantly more skilled than the other. The ranks are somewhat meaningless overall as a result.
Can we talk about how lucky pants has a cooldown where peacekeepers has 100% up time and more benefits. Lets just make weapon exotics like peacekeepers... right?
I might well be wrong, but i think the ‘out of luck’ cooldown is for the damage buff part of the exotic, which only works in PvE obviously, but i think bungie just didn’t/couldn’t remove the debuff text in PvP. So while it says that you have some sort of cooldown, i don’t think there is any actual in game cooldown for the draw speed and accuracy part of the exotic
My guy would've taken you 2 seconds to test your theory and no you can't read the perk apparently it specifically mentions the damage buff and losing it grants out of luck aka the cooldown illegal modded holster is the actual perk clearly you just wanted something to complain about lmao
@@napalmballwipes Upon Readying a Hand Cannon: Grants +100 Handling to Ready Speed, +20 Airborne Effectiveness, 0.6x Ready Animation Duration Multiplier, and -30% Accuracy Cone Size for 4 seconds. Dummy
I know the stats are bad but you might want to try for that Zen Moment Timed Payload roll. Nation of beasts can’t roll that combo anymore I don’t think
im sure you know this but if you switch on and then off of your weapon it remedies that aimpunch thing. not a reason to not complain about it it should still go lol nice video cammy i enjoyed. i always love your content man thanks for bein dope
Last word at home
You mean first curse but it’s drunk?
Deadman’s untalented son
@@peterdubinsky5389 …..I miss first curse honestly
@DragonKnight90001 me too man. Idk why I loved that gun so much 😢❤
It's more like the last word of the streets
I grabbed this on reset and brought some friends into a custom. The thing does full hipfire damage at 30 meters and is pretty consistent. It's not great by any means but it was a lot of fun to use!
So it's a fun gun, not a good one?
@@ethankim7979 i guess, but the fun dies off pretty fast if it's not that good to use. I'd say it's novelty, but not fun
I wish it was kinetic so you could hot swap with erianas
How u 10k already
"Landing aim flinch is there for balance and immersion" - Eric
Nothing can match the fear i have when i peak a corner and the ENTIRE enemy team is there
Use strongholds with a throne cleaver with valiant charge and you will be laughing gleefully whenever you see the entire team after rounding a corner. I've walked straight into groups of five and gotten out alive while my entire team was capping B or something
I'm sad to see that this gun underperforms. A legendary hip-fire centric hand cannon would be really cool, but it seems like only TLW is juiced enough to perform well, since it's exotic and tailored for that niche.
I will say that I have a Bottom Dollar with Hipfire Grip and Opening Shot, and it's been a while, but I really enjoyed using that. It felt like a good combo that let me get some clutch shots, and opening shot was useful for non-hipfire too so it felt a little more versatile and balanced.
Hope you've been farming Kalli then since the newly updated Nation of Beasts (yes, i'm aware it's a 140 rpm) has both hip fire and offhand with a higher mag cap. Might like it.
banshee sold a much better role of this gun right on season launch. it had tunnel vision and kill clip, and overall the gun feels really good with this role
Was looking for this comment. He definitely didn't get the roll everyone seemed to be telling him to get. Wonder how different this video would have been
Roll*
The one he was selling last night (still selling?) with adagio is much better. Allows for two taps without reloading
Immediately doing a light jump after landing will stabilise the aim sooner.
The stats and perks on recent world drop weapons have been suboptimal recently. We went from having bangers in witchqueen to now having guns like the Conarach and this 120. The AR is so laughably bad that Cool Guy made a video on it.
Adagio is the stand out perk on this handcannon
Now it can 2 tap tier 10 resil crutch
The baby erianas
This was my first drop of it and it’s beautiful
It does more damage than KC?
The new craftable Nation of Beasts with Full Bore, Accurized and Enhanced Hipfire Grip and Offhand Strike can get nearly 41 meters of hipfire range when Offhand Strike is active.
I have nation of beasts, although not crafted yet. Did Kalli waaaay too much
bro said put it on stompees omg the copium
So about procing lucky pants w/o swaping weapons, pull out ghost then start firing. You still "ready" the hand canon without swapping off it, same trick works with Ace of Spade's Momento Morri.
in this episode of cammy's abominations we see last word at home
Cammy: Oh I have a lot of topics
Me: grabs popcorn and settles down for a banger
glad to see live commentaries back, i really enjoyed them back in like curse of osiris/warmind days
In the beginning when you were commenting on the flinch from falling the animation is purely visual and your bullets will go where your gun will settle, similar to the old No Land Beyond visual-only flinch.
The landing aim flinch is just visual you can still shoot your guns straight during that flinch animation, TDT tested it
If you’ve played enough you’d know it’s just an annoying visual, even more reason it shouldn’t be there
@@CrushableDread It just doesn't bother me as much as it does you because I've played a lot more older games than you that does the same thing, if you played anything different it probably wouldn't bother you as much
I had the steangest feeling you'd make a video about this. It just seems like a Cammy roll lol
It feels weird to see other classes with suppressor nades.
It’s been over a year my friend lol
@@xthecre8or735 it'll never not feel weird
a warlock throwing a tripmine/lightning nade boggles my mind every time
@@xthecre8or735 I’m aware but it just feels weird nonetheless.
@@jonak.loves.u it feels weird seeing hunters use blink as well. It would have been nice to have blink as a titan as well. If other classes are getting our grenades why not let us have other classes movement.
The last wish weapons can drop with deepsight from the free Wishing wall chests, so even if you don't raid you can (eventually with good rng) get a crafted gun
Don't tell Cammy that Banshee is selling an Austringer without a masterwork
I'm not surprised you use it, love your videos as always Cammy!
I grabbed it right away seeing the combo figured why not try,
shot 2 bullets at a guy, turned around and took it off
I wish they would bring back the Old fashioned or a new version of dire promise. An god roll old fashioned with explosive payload and either range or stability masterwork was just.....muah, chef's kiss 🔥🔥
Just got a random drop of this gun with Zen Moment/ Timed Payload. Yet to try it, but I'm hoping that this gun becomes a decent dueling weapon with the perk combo, we'll see though
I love the tunnel vision/kill clip roll from banshee. It’s my favorite weapon this season
1:04 I wheezed so hard at this and I don't know why 😂
Hip fire, hip fire grip and explosive payload is the king of free headshots from the hip
Cammy you misunderstand that guy left because he feared your raw power
While this gun is bad, I am loving how they are making these pairing perks. When messenger comes out I’d love to hear your thoughts about the Discord & Harmony perk pairing on it Cam.
i miss cammys commentaries
Cammy may be the only person I wouldn’t shit on for using two hand cannons in pvp
You gotta try the new Nation of Beasts. Crafted with enhanced hipfire grip and offhand strike together sounds promising.
X to doubt
@@majora919 X
There are better rolls to encourage l enhance but aight😂
@@QuantumBeard Yeah but this is unique at least. There are multiple meta hand cannons already.
nation of beasts has 10 bullets in the mag, so the problems cammy was sayin in the video are less of a "problem" xd
"competitive standard time" so 3am lmao
If you can get one with adagio a two tabs without a reload, the one that I have on my account is adagio and tunnel vision it’s really good and the decreased rate of fire doesn’t really affect you as long as your peak shotting
This. Most seasonal guns are mediocre but have at least one interesting perk combo that sets them apart. In this case, it brings back the power fantasy (almost) of 2 tapping 120s everywhere. I miss having a backup to my TLW that could compete and win against hard hitting pulses and scouts
Cammy we've all missed the live commentaries
Do give Gemini Jester a shot with the new Hunter Strand Aspect, its just an absolute blast of a time. The amount of times I've killed shotgun apes with the decoy is just... wow. It might not last as long as long or weaken them like a smoke bomb, but it gives you access to higher AE thanks to Strand.
I picked up the roll Banshee had the day before this one was released since it had Tunnel Vision / Kill Clip. Haven't used it yet, but I hope it's nice.
"They hurt my favorite builds too" bro this one hit me fr, I mean I been usin' stasis warlock with Winter's Guile and then they nerfed it for NO reason ;-;
I missed the live commentaries, hope more might be on the way
I love the live commentaries
Cammy pls do more live commentary this is top tier content
to be fair, you should still try and grab one cause it's the first arc 120 since d2 launch. seriously, look it up, the first 120 arc HC in 6+ years lmao
It could of been the DIREEST OF PROMISES, but it only BREAKS PROMISES!!
I just decided to pick it up earlier in the week when it was kill clip and one other perk i can't recall currently
The old cammy is back!
I got it like 2 days ago with kill clip, tunnel vision from banshee, that may have been the roll people wanted you to get.
The problem for me is that 120's have no place in the sandbox.
AT LEAST 180's have decent flinch and somewhat secure ranges, but theres literally no range for 120's to occupy.
Thats true for dueling. But for team shooting 120s are probably what youd go for over 140s
i couldnt get my 65 AE rose with explosive and that depresses me i shoulda grinded harder
The last sentence
hipfire on spare rations was fun way back in the day
I love you
16:03 yeah but when you use sweet business everyone moves towards the sound like they want to die
i wanna give a hug for u seeming to have a bad day
I have a Perpetualis with the same perks (need to get it enhanced) and man, I WISH it worked as well I expected. It juest makes me wonder "why am I not just using Tommy's if I want to hip fire?"
yeah i was hyped to try this and the ammo economy was my least favorite part, deleted it the same day i bought it.
you're a cowboy my dude
Gemini's with threaded specter is kinda nice btw
Aint seen TLW in pvp used like you did there in a Long Time. Would you recommend using the Lucky pants in pvp this season over Stompeez?
i need flinch resis but i play a hunter *hovered over resilience* i feel u
Im impressed with stompies! Never thought i'd say this, but it was a fun nerf! It defenetly feels like a nerf, but the need to avoid using dodge feels like it enhances skill, so it becomes more like an emergency reload instead of a movement ability.
At this point i'd love for bungie to commit to it. Take away the dodge entirely, but after x ammount of kills, it activates the "side effect" of the dodge, like 2 kills banks a free reload (basically a mag reset once it reaches 0) or after 3 kills you get the melee back, and even the radiant from the solar one after 4 or 5 kills! X5-7 the values for PvE, it would be so much fun imo...
Eww
This has to be the worst stompees suggestion I've ever read
Hey cammy what were you trying to say when you went into a tangent about grav lance around 4:20 before you got distracted?
isn't the screen bounce when landing too hard visual only? with your reticle is still centered if you shot your gun i thought.
Yes if you shoot it will instantly go back to center problem is that it’s a guessing game as well wasting a shot
I'd hold onto this H.C. as i see Bungie updating certain gun perks in the near future.
I think you should mess with perfect float. You are one of few people that can leverage the timer.
I was intrigued, but decided not to pick that up. I have one with Eddy current and kill clip, it wrecks!!
Have you tried shyura's wrath with the new reticle? It's pretty wacky.
His name is "Totsugeki", which immediately made me think that he played Guilty Gear and was exclusively a May main.
He played strive for a while but we never got to see him play a fighting game unfortunately
Hey Cammy! I wanted to ask you something. I’m not really that good at pvp, but at the start of the new season pvp felt kinda clanky and much more sweaty really. Is it my skill issue or bungie cooked something malicious? It’s just not clicking with me in this season. Also I think I became too adjusted to connection based mm in Guardian games playlist .
idk man, i'm having fun """cosplaying""" as Sjur Eido with Adamantine Brace and Wish-Ender. although i'm not exactly going up against the best players ever, i'm in gold 3 atm and half of the people just want to lane with their sniper and bottom score every game :p
At the start of every season most people are doing the new PvE stuff, so the only people in PvP are the people who really like PvP.
damn... i miss these
I got this roll, looked at it and said cammy will make a vid
I’m interested in learning the last word on M&K, and I wanted to ask since I’m a warlock. Is having an exotic like the lucky pants needed to do well, or could I possibly do well without it?
Could do well without it
Cammy with a cloak on, what timeline are we in?
Used it for a while and it was honestly tons of fun. I put about 100 kills on it and it brought me back to halo 3/reach days. But yeah it’s kinda ass lmao
10:45 As a hardcore pvp controller player I also have a hard time with flinch more than aiming itself. Some say its my aa..maybe lol but yeah flinch sucks so i tried to build into anti-flinch whenever i can
Last day of trials I came across two people kill boosting. One player on our team was ressing us to allow one person on the other team to just kill us before we could do anything. First time i've come across it and man it was annoying. I suspect they were just solo queing at the same time and hopefully getting into the same match.
will u be playing marathon as uve always pvpd for d1/d2?
Ack-urrr-it? Why does everyone have so much trouble with the word accurate. Ack-you’re-it
Jesus
I miss live comms during Warmind era, bro..
See, what interests me is Nation of Beasts.
This combo, enhanced, on a 140
edit: oh, you noticed too
edit2: I've been saying LW's problem is flinch on k&m for so long man. Even though I'm a worse shot than you, I'm more accurate with it than any other gun, except when flinched!
Bro saw who the competition was and quit 💀
Proposal: St0mp-ee5 as they were originally, but no radar during sprint, slide, or while in the air (instant return?)
you saying that no hunter build exists where you can choose all three: jump, shoot, win.
please brother, the truth hurts too much
bro he's so good at the game the game can't find other people for home to play with, insane
17:56
Funny enough, you can only pull ammo from tbe ground on THAT side of the level geometry, not the other.
Man 20 cam talking just ehat I need
Solo q'd to ascendant the afternoon after the night I did my placements and didn't have trouble on matching, is the issue with queuing just on PC? Or did I get lucky?
It's because Comp isn't a true rank system. There's a skill bracket running in the background. Your queue to Ascendant even when at the same rank as Cammy (Gold, Plat etc) will have an entirely different skill pool of players as his. As a result, you could have two players at Ascendant rank and one is significantly more skilled than the other.
The ranks are somewhat meaningless overall as a result.
Can we talk about how lucky pants has a cooldown where peacekeepers has 100% up time and more benefits. Lets just make weapon exotics like peacekeepers... right?
I might well be wrong, but i think the ‘out of luck’ cooldown is for the damage buff part of the exotic, which only works in PvE obviously, but i think bungie just didn’t/couldn’t remove the debuff text in PvP. So while it says that you have some sort of cooldown, i don’t think there is any actual in game cooldown for the draw speed and accuracy part of the exotic
@@asaabed4200 I wish that was the case but the benefits it provides are off when the cooldown is active. At least that's what DIM insights states
My guy would've taken you 2 seconds to test your theory and no you can't read the perk apparently it specifically mentions the damage buff and losing it grants out of luck aka the cooldown illegal modded holster is the actual perk clearly you just wanted something to complain about lmao
@@napalmballwipes Upon Readying a Hand Cannon:
Grants +100 Handling to Ready Speed, +20 Airborne Effectiveness, 0.6x Ready Animation
Duration Multiplier, and -30% Accuracy Cone Size for 4 seconds.
Dummy
I know the stats are bad but you might want to try for that Zen Moment Timed Payload roll. Nation of beasts can’t roll that combo anymore I don’t think
Dissapointed cuz I love the gun model so much
I tried that but couldn’t use it :(
Cammy his name was Geriatric 😭😭
The gun just doesn’t believe in consistency
That dude in the beginning leaving after immediately losing a gunfight is hilarious
Actually, that landing punch is purely visual, your reticle is right where it was, you just don't see it
Avg hunter playing dual hip fire HCs 💀
im sure you know this but if you switch on and then off of your weapon it remedies that aimpunch thing. not a reason to not complain about it it should still go lol
nice video cammy i enjoyed. i always love your content man thanks for bein dope
Love me some live commentary
If they get rid of landing flinch it better not be for just fucking stompees bro
Bring this hand cannon back with adagio if yu find one. 2taps crazy
Dmt and Last Word got it on lock