ngl this video just made me draw myself a driver logo, I just wanna say I have what I think is a pretty neat GP loop and it has a few oval layouts too XD. get Schwacked F1 teams and drivers.
@@MrVsGarage what I do not get is how can one rate tracks... as there are zero laws or rules for rating them. I raced a lot in Track Mania, we built many interesting and weird tracks. And there were fans for every one of them. This is completely subjective. There are huge countries where oval tracks are beloved for example.....
@@Sonnell hes giving his opinion, what is there not to understand? The whole point of this video is to have fun anyway, weird ass comment to leave man
I was thinking this too. Basically you have a Mulsanne with two chicanes, a corner much like Indianapolis in the bottom middle, and some in between bits that combines some of the Porsche curves with the chicanes before the start finish of the real circuit. I think it would be a sleeper design if made for Assetto Corsa or any other game.
I think them and Mercedes have made the best tracks to suit their own car. The Red Bull track will need to be surrounded by kerbs, sad day for Max and Checo
The main problem with the circular tracks like Haas and Mercades, I recall some racing series back in the 80's or 90's drove on a circular track like that. The drivers complained about the constant G-forces and fatigue that made it hard to focus. I understad the hairpin break is probably helpful for them... But could be a bit of a saftey issue driving a turn for 45 seconds. May also want to pit halfway through your run just to put the tires on the other side of the car for maximum life XD
@@MrVsGarageI would have to assume an actual circle would be worse than what NASCAR/Indycar drivers are going through. If you look at famous ovals like Daytona or IMS they’re actually not under sustained Gs for a very long time per lap. Over the course of a full race, yeah, it’s a lot, but on the straights they get a bit of a break, there’s an ebb and flow to the forces within each lap. An actual circle would mean being dealing with sustained G-forces for MUCH longer continuous stretches. I think you’re right though. Still probably trainable.
@@smoothmidnightfudge7450It might need a specially designed cars, maybe with the driver seat offset and a little bit sideways. Will look super ugly tho'.
I remember hearing that there was a track in the US that was perfectly circular and it was incredibly dangerous. Mostly as drivers were in a perpetual corner that just couldn't avoid plowing into any crashed cars in front of them
0:17 As a New Zealander I can confirm it's a very simplified kiwi. If u went back far enough you will see the change to what it is now!! Hope it helps!
@@PeterTeal77 I can't show u here because you know. but if u search Mclaren f1 logos and go to images: find mycarheaven and you'll see that in the 60s it was a kiwi but then changed. with a brief time as you pointed out, a Chevron .
@@PeterTeal77it definitely was, look on any of the first cars. The Kiwi is also still on the cars today! Look at the DRS actuator when you get a chance 😊
Now ya gotta do one with all the F1 teams in history... Great video :D. The more I look at it the more I like the Ferrari one... then I remember zoomed in it's a nightmare.
Swooch probably is a Nike trade mark or something silly. But I did a bit of research and given that Marlboro calls it the "red rooftop" the McLaren logo is probably the "Papaya Rooftop". It is an evolution of the Marlboro logo after all. They just rounded the corners and faded the red over the last 30 years. (Kinda weird that they still had it, while having West sponsorship, are West and Marlboro the same company?)
McLaren started using the word "Speedmark" when they changed to West because it is owned by a different company. They had the Malboro chevron for so long I guess they thought people wouldn't like completely new logo
6:20 an American team making a circle as their logo, that's very clever. 14:30 "no one's favourite corner is a 90 degree" Congratulations! You have discovered *Baku.*
The Kick logo is basically the Phoenix GP (probably even better) or Detroit or any other USA street race from the 80's :D I like how the worst of your list is the only one that really looks like tracks F1 did before ^^
Correction at 7:10 There was a complete circle track called Longhorne Speedway. It was regarded as one of the most dangerous tracks ever. It literally had a section called “Puke Hollow” lol
The McLaren and Mercedes logo tracks are so bad I'd rather watch cars going vroom vroom is ovals. What you committed was a crime, sir, an absolute crime. PUTTING THE RED BULL RING (ik i'm funi) BELOW THE MERC?!??!!! A travesty. Otherwise, yes, I agree. Great video as always.
@@MrVsGarage True, but the outer ring was so wavy and smooth. It was like watching a paint brush go in a single stroke. It had a low speed, some high and medium speed corners. All the Merc has are 3 hairpins and 3 flat-out kinks.
I wish there were people who talk about laser tag arena design the way you talk about racetracks. I can probably make do with FPS map design theory, but it’s nice to have something specifically for what you’re trying to do.
Your ad made me laugh cause I was once told that I couldn't possibly be an F1 fan because I don't look like someone who knows what a carburettor visor has touched one
Love the video. The one opportunity I saw missed was deciding the McLaren Swoosh should be 10 miles long like Le Mans. Its a groovy layout on a small track but could work for a giant one.
Mr V’s Garage once again answering the questions that nobody asked and nobody knew we needed an answer to, but in hindsight we all definitely needed an answer to Love the content
All the Circle tracks remind me of Langhorne Speedway near Philadelphia, which was basically one near-perfect circle. It wasn't properly maintained, often had literal rocks thrown at other drivers and into the stands, and, because it was just one massive turn, everyone basically had to do one big drift. Often times, one driver spinning could lead to many other drivers crashing into them, with no reasonable area to slow down, and in all 27 people lost their lives at that track. The track is now abandoned, has been turned into some woods, a Sam's Club Warehouse Store and, ironically, a Car Dealership. I wonder if the people who own that have any idea...
Idk if this was mentioned before, but I would love to see you rank every Gran Turismo original circuit for open-wheel racing. There are so many good tracks over the franchise's 27-year history, but I understand that some might not make for good F1 viewing (Test Course/SSRX) or would even be feasible for F1 racing (Matterhorn).
One advantage of the round tracks is that they would potentially be excellent for spectators, as you could simply surround them with grandstands and all the seats would be able to see the whole thing.
The switch backs into turn 19 would be rather interesting since you’d start breaking in turn 17 where as with the on the front stretch switchbacks turns 1-6 you wouldn’t need to break. As for the Haas circle the outer circle would be HIGHLY dangerous to drive which would be super fun or super scary to watch. Just depends on your taste
100% need to have a follow-up for this with previous team logos because I think there could be some very intriguing options for tracks that might not be all that bad (depending on what logos you take of course!). Immediately my mind is drawn towards the likes of Force India (The stylised 'F' would be interesting), Midland and Super Aguri as potentially reasonable tracks. But I'm equally as sure there are more questionable offerings, though I doubt any will come close to the block-horror drama that is Kick...
As someone who loves oval racing, circle tracks arent too bad, but if you stretch some of these tracks into an oval instead, you can get one hell of an awesome road course
I love how you blame the teams and drivers for their logos not making good tracks, like it's a massive oversight on their part. Loved both videos
well it's no one else's job. If the teams wanted to be rated higher they should have thought about this
@@MrVsGarage I mean Sauber obviously thought of this 30 years ago.
ngl this video just made me draw myself a driver logo, I just wanna say I have what I think is a pretty neat GP loop and it has a few oval layouts too XD. get Schwacked F1 teams and drivers.
@@MrVsGarage lol but how!?! lol
It’s not? As much money as they’re making?
Imagine redbull saw this and said ... what a stupid idea... lets do it ... and next year we'll have the redbull ring in the shape of redbull logo
If any team would, it's Red Bull
Feels like something from Infinite Jest
That’s something redbull would do
Or..... they redesign their logo after the circuit?
@@XtraDavido where the fuck is the fun in that
The giant A logo not being A tier is actually tragic 😢
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I might have a heart attack if I give Alpine too many compliments so this was the best they could get tbh
Same with the Sauber S not being S-tier
Andretti: if only
🅱️alpine
Ferrari has a 72 corner circuit. F tier.
The Nordschlife enters the chat.
I don't know I feel like there were a few complaints about the Nordschleife in F1 back in the day...
@@MrVsGarage Cowards
@@MrVsGarage what I do not get is how can one rate tracks... as there are zero laws or rules for rating them. I raced a lot in Track Mania, we built many interesting and weird tracks. And there were fans for every one of them. This is completely subjective.
There are huge countries where oval tracks are beloved for example.....
@@Sonnell hes giving his opinion, what is there not to understand? The whole point of this video is to have fun anyway, weird ass comment to leave man
@@Sonnell A tierlist being subjective should be no surprise though, no?
"Which F1 car would make the best track" Incoming? Question is front or side profile. Oldies from 1950, 6 wheelers or current?
ok, that's even stupider than this and I love it
The hell of the 2017/18 front wings
Can't wait for the 2014 cars nose hairpins
Which F1 driver's face would make the best track?
The original Playstation F1 game set in 1995 had a side profile F1 car as a bonus track layout - pretty good fun.
That Kick Logo track would 100% be another street track in the USA
San Francisco GP, the Minecraft edition of Mount Panamera
Oh hello there👀. Bit random to see you under a F1 video, but love(d?) (will there ever be another one :) ) your videos, hope you are doing well✌
@@aculstingray thanks lol. there will be more videos but they're taking forever.
"Speedmark, no no no, that's a silly made-up word..."
"I'm gonna call it a swoosh"
I think I'm going to pass on one made up word and go for another
My jocks have speedmarks too
Yes we watched the vid.
Mr. V: "We don't have any circles in real-life tracks as far as I know"
Me: "coughs in NASCAR"
Clearly ovals and circles are very very different... so we'll never know what these tracks are like 🤔
@@MrVsGarageLanghorne speedway was basically a circle(it was around from like 1921 ish to like 1970/71 ish) it no longer exists
Just untill you find out f1 races on squigly circles
@@MrVsGarage There's always Nardò.
Closest I could think of was Sochi's long left hander (turn 4)
4:54 Perfect space to run out of fuel.
😡
Really never living it down
Nigel Mansell Reference
@@Timzoo69 close but yet so far
monaco.
Aston Martin’s logo isn’t a million miles off the Circuit de la Sarthe
le 24 Heures du Stroll
*Astroll Martin's
I was thinking this too. Basically you have a Mulsanne with two chicanes, a corner much like Indianapolis in the bottom middle, and some in between bits that combines some of the Porsche curves with the chicanes before the start finish of the real circuit.
I think it would be a sleeper design if made for Assetto Corsa or any other game.
15 years norwich city🎶🔰
@@crogers.44 honestly such a great use of your time to comment that 🤣 2 points in 3 in the championship lol
you should rank every medium speed corner in f1
there may actually be something like this in the works...
@@MrVsGaragethis is clearly a display of my incredible intelligence
Now it is time for "Which car make logo makes the best track?" with non-F1 car makes
Oh god, the opel logo
I'm so happy you're answering the questions I wasn't asking.
The Williams Track is just straightline speed on stereoids. perfect for a williams F1 car
I think them and Mercedes have made the best tracks to suit their own car. The Red Bull track will need to be surrounded by kerbs, sad day for Max and Checo
The main problem with the circular tracks like Haas and Mercades, I recall some racing series back in the 80's or 90's drove on a circular track like that. The drivers complained about the constant G-forces and fatigue that made it hard to focus. I understad the hairpin break is probably helpful for them... But could be a bit of a saftey issue driving a turn for 45 seconds. May also want to pit halfway through your run just to put the tires on the other side of the car for maximum life XD
It's definitely possible to train for it because this is basically what a NASCAR driver is going through, but yeah still a brutal physical challenge
That sounds like a skill issue to me.
I think the massive curves like Haas or Mclaren could work well as banked curves.
@@MrVsGarageI would have to assume an actual circle would be worse than what NASCAR/Indycar drivers are going through. If you look at famous ovals like Daytona or IMS they’re actually not under sustained Gs for a very long time per lap. Over the course of a full race, yeah, it’s a lot, but on the straights they get a bit of a break, there’s an ebb and flow to the forces within each lap. An actual circle would mean being dealing with sustained G-forces for MUCH longer continuous stretches.
I think you’re right though. Still probably trainable.
@@smoothmidnightfudge7450It might need a specially designed cars, maybe with the driver seat offset and a little bit sideways. Will look super ugly tho'.
I remember hearing that there was a track in the US that was perfectly circular and it was incredibly dangerous. Mostly as drivers were in a perpetual corner that just couldn't avoid plowing into any crashed cars in front of them
Langhorne
It would be very silly, but perhaps another follow up to this would be historical F1 team logos? You might find that S Tier entry you’re after!
Jaguar's logo definitely could be a jeddah-like track
14:35 "WHY WOULD YOU ONLY MAKE A TRACK OUT OF 90 DEGREE BENDS" meanwhile Sochi 👀
baku 👁️👄👁️
@@kokohanahana what about castle section and the rest of the track after that?
8:39 I'm curious. Which Mario kart circuit would fit as a F1 track?!?
Yes please
Oh man! That’s extremely tough with so many good options.
How about the inverse as well.
0:17 As a New Zealander I can confirm it's a very simplified kiwi. If u went back far enough you will see the change to what it is now!! Hope it helps!
Lmao you almost had me with this but it definitely started as a chevron
@@PeterTeal77 I can't show u here because you know. but if u search Mclaren f1 logos and go to images: find mycarheaven and you'll see that in the 60s it was a kiwi but then changed. with a brief time as you pointed out, a Chevron .
@@PeterTeal77 Well when i say brief it was a good couple decades.
Hope it helps!! :)
@@PeterTeal77it definitely was, look on any of the first cars. The Kiwi is also still on the cars today! Look at the DRS actuator when you get a chance 😊
Mr V's audio is slightly warm and it makes it sound great.
thank you. I've actually been less aggressive with the audio filtering this video so I hope it sounds a bit more natural
1:30 it's obviously a piston...
Obviously 😅. I mean what else could it possibly be?
Nah its obviously a creeper
@@TheMost_Lime Well it does move in a reciprocating motion
15:40 f1 Twitter 😂
14:50 recommending to my local mayor to make this a track bc man with funny accent said not to
For an F1 track, no, but god damn that Kick logo on a grid block city, with a little bit of elevation, would make a phenomenal criterium bike race
personally, if you add Kick to Wreckfest I think it could be S tier
the haas track looks like something perfect for the race of champions
9:53 red ball ring
I like the bull’s balls😏😏😏
UNDERRATED LOL
Cheeseburger
No way
Thank you for commenting
@@rachelsmith8426 no problem
Cheeseburger!
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Now ya gotta do one with all the F1 teams in history... Great video :D. The more I look at it the more I like the Ferrari one... then I remember zoomed in it's a nightmare.
I do like all the sections of the Ferrari one, for WEC or Rally it would be great. But for F1 it's like a 4 minute lap
@@MrVsGarage Do some of the older F1 teams like Minardi, Larousse and Lotus and Ferrari will look like the Indy 500 oval by comparison 😂
0:22 Nike’s already calls their logo the “swoosh”. McLaren maybe can be called the “swipe”?
Mercedes is just the daytona road course
I just said the same thing about Haas lol!
"Medium speed corners" merch when?
there is a little medium speed easter egg on one of the new retro shirts...
Just the content I'm looking for while waiting for the Dutch GP to start!
Like at home or in the grandstands??
@@MrVsGarage At home, unfortunately
If the ferrari logo was a real track, it would be longer than the Isle of Man mountain course by like 4x
I would quite like to see the Ferrari Ring TT now you've mentioned it
Another banger incoming 🔥🔥🔥
I love how the motto of this channel is basically “to answer the question that no one asked” XD
Swooch probably is a Nike trade mark or something silly. But I did a bit of research and given that Marlboro calls it the "red rooftop" the McLaren logo is probably the "Papaya Rooftop". It is an evolution of the Marlboro logo after all. They just rounded the corners and faded the red over the last 30 years. (Kinda weird that they still had it, while having West sponsorship, are West and Marlboro the same company?)
McLaren started using the word "Speedmark" when they changed to West because it is owned by a different company. They had the Malboro chevron for so long I guess they thought people wouldn't like completely new logo
Amusingly the Speedmark spelt with a que rather than a K is the name for the logo British Airways use
6:20 an American team making a circle as their logo, that's very clever.
14:30 "no one's favourite corner is a 90 degree"
Congratulations! You have discovered *Baku.*
everything after the castle section is not 90 degree corners
@@oliverwatkiss6113 I meant until T4 of course, obviously i'm not talking about the rest of the track
The Kick logo is basically the Phoenix GP (probably even better) or Detroit or any other USA street race from the 80's :D I like how the worst of your list is the only one that really looks like tracks F1 did before ^^
those tracks did at least have some curves and some interesting bits, but yes 75% was just this. I'm trying to make sure history doesn't repeat itself
Correction at 7:10
There was a complete circle track called Longhorne Speedway. It was regarded as one of the most dangerous tracks ever. It literally had a section called “Puke Hollow” lol
0:36 Oh Contraire.... I woke up this morning with this very question in mind
are you.... me?
@@MrVsGarage I'd wager you can spell _au_ contraire correctly. Nothing against @FarmerEnvoyXtreme though.
@@MrVsGarage I am you but a hairy version with full head of hear and A big bushy beard.
Put some of A the tracks like the Haas Ring in Assetto Corsa!
I've been talking with some people about making some of the drivers logos, looks like I need to add these to the list...
GET THIS MAN TO 50K so we can have a lovely egg shoey together
Medium Speed Service!!!! Take my money!
you're welcome to spend it over on mrvsgarage.com 😉
The McLaren and Mercedes logo tracks are so bad I'd rather watch cars going vroom vroom is ovals. What you committed was a crime, sir, an absolute crime. PUTTING THE RED BULL RING (ik i'm funi) BELOW THE MERC?!??!!! A travesty. Otherwise, yes, I agree. Great video as always.
idk Bahrain outer ring used in Sakhir 2020 only had 8 corners really and that was great, so maybe the simple ones could be good
@@MrVsGarage True, but the outer ring was so wavy and smooth. It was like watching a paint brush go in a single stroke. It had a low speed, some high and medium speed corners. All the Merc has are 3 hairpins and 3 flat-out kinks.
5:35 sweet mother of mercy 😳😳
yeah... Ferrari designing tracks as well as they design race strategies
Lol😂
@@MrVsGarage: “It looks bad”
F1 fan who has no favorite team/driver(ME):😈 add some extreme elevation
Extreme downhill from turn 69 to 72
D tier could be rebranded as Red Bull tier and nothing would change
Kick's logo was clearly better than ferrari's one
14:40 thanks for the idea pookie
We need to take possible track parts for DRS + interesting Detection points in consideration for well rounded evaluation 👀
I wish there were people who talk about laser tag arena design the way you talk about racetracks. I can probably make do with FPS map design theory, but it’s nice to have something specifically for what you’re trying to do.
📹 Video Idea: Subscribers send in our track layouts we design and you analyse them and rank them. This would be so fun!!!!
5:32 this gives some Complex String from gran turismo 3 vibes
Yo Thx for the track designs and ideas for my f1 series
9:34 Maybe I’m crazy but the tail-butt section of the Alpha Bull Rosso track looks like good fun.
Your ad made me laugh cause I was once told that I couldn't possibly be an F1 fan because I don't look like someone who knows what a carburettor visor has touched one
That's a... Very strange way to gatekeep a sport considering I don't think F1 cars have ever had carburetors 😂
“I know what the comments will call this shape… but”
Yes, that’s correct
RB looks like a street circuit with a off-road section after turn 10 😂
Love the video. The one opportunity I saw missed was deciding the McLaren Swoosh should be 10 miles long like Le Mans. Its a groovy layout on a small track but could work for a giant one.
13:55 ONE PIECE MENTIONED 🔥🗣🗣🔥⁉I WILL BE THE KING OF THE PIRATES 🔥
You really deserve way more subs than you have
Next Video: Would track logos make good Tracks?
The Mclaren logo is basically Hockenheim if you reduced it down to the bare minimum of being recognizable
Mclaren's logo looked like a back spoiler tbh 😂
I can't wait for the video where you check which F1 track's logo will make a good F1 track.
I'm really enjoying these kinds of videos 😁
I think that sauber, Mercedes, McLaren, and haas could be good NASCAR tracks. Mercedes sauber and haas could be like a roval type thing
My guy is just borderline underrated ❤
Mr V’s Garage once again answering the questions that nobody asked and nobody knew we needed an answer to, but in hindsight we all definitely needed an answer to
Love the content
I love how Alpine looks like a Turtle with a sharp head when turned into a track.
next up: which track makes the best logo
The Red Bull Tracks would be an absolute BLAST for a less-serious game like Mario Kart.
I would love to see you try make all these logos actually a good track
mclaren looks like the track you race on when you are a starter in a racing game
please do other sports tracks in f1
1:45 free candy kids
I can't believe you have less then 50k subs, I love your channel with all its fun ideas
“No ones favorite corner is a 90° bend”
Idk, T1 at Baku can be quite fun
All the Circle tracks remind me of Langhorne Speedway near Philadelphia, which was basically one near-perfect circle. It wasn't properly maintained, often had literal rocks thrown at other drivers and into the stands, and, because it was just one massive turn, everyone basically had to do one big drift. Often times, one driver spinning could lead to many other drivers crashing into them, with no reasonable area to slow down, and in all 27 people lost their lives at that track. The track is now abandoned, has been turned into some woods, a Sam's Club Warehouse Store and, ironically, a Car Dealership. I wonder if the people who own that have any idea...
The video was fine, I mainly tuned in for the advert, which is a masterpiece.
Which F1 track would make F1 Logos
If you take the best parts of each logo, you will create an insane track. I'd love to watch a video about it
The Kick K reminds of the USA teack on super Monaco GP for the megadrive. All 90⁰ turn madness
Idk if this was mentioned before, but I would love to see you rank every Gran Turismo original circuit for open-wheel racing.
There are so many good tracks over the franchise's 27-year history, but I understand that some might not make for good F1 viewing (Test Course/SSRX) or would even be feasible for F1 racing (Matterhorn).
One advantage of the round tracks is that they would potentially be excellent for spectators, as you could simply surround them with grandstands and all the seats would be able to see the whole thing.
It would be amazing if the official F1 game would have these fantasy tracks added!
I feel like nowe of these might actually be worth throwing together in some racing game
9:16 F1 topology goes hard
I love this series lol, keep on making them please =D
I think the RB track could be fun if it had banked corners like Zandvort
LAWD HE GIVETH THE V
14:50 Baku got a upgrade 😂😂
This is a great format loved this vid ❤
The switch backs into turn 19 would be rather interesting since you’d start breaking in turn 17 where as with the on the front stretch switchbacks turns 1-6 you wouldn’t need to break.
As for the Haas circle the outer circle would be HIGHLY dangerous to drive which would be super fun or super scary to watch. Just depends on your taste
I'd love to see you do some retro logos too, like Brawn and Lotus. Would be neat to see how the old ones stack up with the modern logos
7:40 this circular straight would work well if you have a significant bank like Daytona or The Brickyard
This man could be my idea supplier for decades 😅
100% need to have a follow-up for this with previous team logos because I think there could be some very intriguing options for tracks that might not be all that bad (depending on what logos you take of course!). Immediately my mind is drawn towards the likes of Force India (The stylised 'F' would be interesting), Midland and Super Aguri as potentially reasonable tracks. But I'm equally as sure there are more questionable offerings, though I doubt any will come close to the block-horror drama that is Kick...
Correct me if I’m wrong but RB one would do good for rally 9:35
Would be fun to do this with track logos. Would love to see if Road Americas logo is good as a real track since it's designed to look like one already
As someone who loves oval racing, circle tracks arent too bad, but if you stretch some of these tracks into an oval instead, you can get one hell of an awesome road course