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To add to the virgin until marriage count, I met my wife in elementary school, we dated throughout college, but both of us remained virgins until marriage. Currently, we have been happily married for 9 years, financially successful, and with 2 healthy toddlers. When you do it Gods way, you will receive God's grace.
I did it God's way too, then my husband told me one day that he's allowed to have multiple wives because it was deemed permissible by God for a man to have multiple and was not a sin. I'm going to be clear here, that my husband and I have worked many things out, and I am still in my marriage, because I did not believe in forsaking my vows, even though I was being treated terribly at that time. But this has nearly destroyed my faith, and I do not even know if I'm a Christian any longer. I felt isolated and alone for a long time while raising two small kids. Deprived of church and community, because of my husband's position, yet the bible commands the woman to "obey her husband in everything", which is what I tried to do. I tried to follow the scriptures. I cried out so many times to God hoping He would answer and received nothing. Not any spiritual comfort, nothing from the Holy Spirit. So, to just say if you follow the way and you "will receive God's grace", as if that's a surefire promise, I find this to be simply untrue.
Even if you are sinning, as everyone is. However, if you are single, as a Christian you are supposed to be chaste. The first problem is when there is every intention NOT to lead a chaste life. The other one is that experienced people know most single women will regret the wasted time later. It, therefore, becomes a duty of the Christian who cares to bug the one on the wrong path. Christianity is not about cajoling others or making them comfortable. It's more about doing the right thing especially when it is unpopular.
Funny watching these folks manipulating their alleged opinions based on their life's choices. This is not really a conscious argument. More of a rebuttal for bad choices.
Only time the black community brings up God is to validate b.s.! God gave everyone free will, and what the black community is doing with it is detrimental to success. I agree whole heartedly with Anton.
Who do you think created the hook up culture that’s the thing women created it. Women in the west are not being single not sleeping around. They are sleeping around with multiple men. Get your head out of the sand
Exactly. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 is but one scripure that speaks about immorality. People will call themselves Christian as a means of fitting into that particular club but don't want to live according to the Word of God. Making bad decisions is one thing, but to PRACTICE sinful activies is something else.
@@Supercilliouzman yeah he was. In fact he was upset at people "judging " single women with a past in particular. Sexual immorality is the underlying problem and he wants women not to be accountable. You just can't see it maybe you like Kirk idk
No one is telling women to get married. What people are saying is, to stop having babies out of wedlock, and to stop being promiscuous. And people should say it more
@@danamonet77To pu things into context, people such as Anton do not condone sexual immorality among men. However, double standards exist on both sides, however, this one isn't a hinderance. What did selling coochie or trick or treating with it ever do for any w0man's mental wellbeing and future prospects? If anything, showing restraint helps w0men in their own lives and saves them a lot of unnecessary grief in the long run. Society doesn't forgive men who defend themselves against w0men, even if she a$$aulted him first. The man will be stigmatized and shamed for doing something which is very natural. This has got men to concede and move accordingly just to save face and stay out of being jailed unjustly. There is a choice to be made. Play by rules or play loose with your body and deal with the consequences, cos right or wrong, society won't change because you feel some type of way about it.
@@danamonet77 so there is no issue. If someone is simply single and looking for marriage that's one thing, if a person is not marrying for purpose and helping repopulate earth responsibly, sleeping around is just degenerate MAN OR WOMAN.
It's not a sin to be single. It is a sin to have sex when someone isn't married, people should absolutely marry before they carry. The people that are creating these toxic environments are a real scourge on society.
People quote and speak on the Bible when it suits them when they’re trying to attack someone. That’s why I respect Anton because he’s through and through.
I hate when people disagree just for sake of disagreeing and also talk all day and say absolutely nothing! It's really annoying!! And yes I'm taking about Jas!
@estcverbalmarketing I mean I get it it's a business and its marketing or content creation, but it's just too much wasted time with these bad faith arguments
Jas will interrupt when she “feels” or “thinks” she should, but then turns around and tells somebody to let her finish her thoughts. AD keeps her so we can see the evidence in real time😆.
Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. 1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
If most men joined hands, and decided to change this country- for men, there would be nothing anyone could physically do to stop the movement. Still waiting.
I would have kicked her out of the panel as soon as she came with that ignorant, “I wasn’t paying attention” get out. If you want to be disrespectful and try to shut someone down with that get up out of here
It’s crazy how people know not to touch a hot stove or you’ll get burned. Don’t breath under water or you’ll drown. Wipe your butt or you’ll smell like dookie. But all these other topics are open for interpretation. Mental illness is so common people don’t even know they are broken.
Again, Anton is correct. Back in the 40's 50's and 60's when they got married, they had more successfully marriages. Plus Divorce rates were lower and we didn't have broken families! So how were they wrong in the 50's!
@@rodwhite9769 I won’t say successful. I think women felt they had no other options. Let’s not act like we didn’t hear of all the secrets in those days like outside children, multiple side pieces, etc. Just because they stayed married back then doesn’t mean it was successful. I would go even to say tolerated!
I agree, i think we need to encourage marriage in a healthy way, it should be empasized and taught to both genders to choose wisely at a young age, without delusional standards (i think the manosphere is doing a good job of breaking down delusional mindsets), priortise marriage before babies to avoid single parent homes, or atleast get into healthy committed relationships before kids, priortise healing, dating is unnecessary and a waste of time, just be friends then decide if you want to be in a committed relationship.@@kevinbiggers7524
People act like women were slaves back in 50s, 60s and 70s. There were still single women then. Everyone acts like every marriage was the Color Purple.
What Jas needs to understand is that if you shame, you have to do it righteously. Shaming someone to vote a way that doesn't line up with their values is different than shaming some one who professes to be a Christian who operates against the word of God.
Lol..even if you get married with a child...you still a baby MoMA...ain't nothing wrong with a single mother...she has been blessed with a child already...you don't even know if you can have a child
Shaming women for bad behavior would definitely help people think twice. Same goes for men. If you punish bad behavior, society would be in a better place.
I agree with your statement, the scripture says to train up a child in the way they should go, however there will be a time of testing in their life and they may not hold the values they were taught...
I’m all for bringing shame back but not for acting holier or better than thou just because you were raised in better circumstances, or made better decisions. We don’t know when our last day will be, and no one has done it all perfectly, so stay humble.
Apostle Arthur Bailey, a former Christian minister, CEO of Hebrew University in Charlotte NC, who is married and father of 8 children says he "does not believe EVERYONE should get married ".Arthur Bailey has been saying this for years. Arthur says he does NOT marry every couple who comes to him. Arthur said his wife was a Virgin when they married, 40 years ago. Boom and boom Like him or not he is spot on
If you don't read the Bible, you don't know how God thinks......According to God, you are supposed to marry the woman that you're sleeping with,PERIOD..........."And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife." Exodus 22:16 KJV
Marriage doesnt mean run to Esau for a piece of paper. A ring and a piece of paper dont make u a spouse or married. Yall mindset and devotion to TMH and his laws does. #Hebrews13:4
@lisaposey6450 about women especially in a certain demographic taking personal responsibility for their choices and accepting the consequences of their actions, right?
It is difficult for me to understand why some people believe that taking a break from their partners is necessary for self-discovery. In my opinion, self-discovery is a journey of introspection, not a quest for novelty and sensation.
This was not about people not being ready for marriage...this was about people wanting to have sex, having kids l, and bringing baggage and drama to a marriage. If two virgins get married young and focus on themselves instead of the societal influences on free sex and exploration...they will be successful. They can explore their sexuality together, not bringing others into their marriage and sexuality. Anything else brings drama and is bound to fail.
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We’re also the only race that glorifies the criminal life whether you’re grown or young. Add that to the baby mama culture and you literally have a broken stereo
if I am not mistaken Anton was not a virgin when he got married. There shouldn't be a double standard when God has told us ALL to avoid having sex outside of marriage. Males and females both need to be married before they decide to have sex.
She is the queen of excuses !🤦🏾 I hate when people make a simple conversation difficult cause they think they can talk their way out of the same corner that their backward way of thinking just got them into.
as far as Jas it sounds like the young person she’s describing isn’t ready for marriage so they shouldn’t even be looking for a partner yet. Which is not a bad position to be in. But since you’re not ready yet, DONT be out here screwing and serial dating
I agree, with Anton, on shaming/ accountability. A little bit of shame is healthy . I believe that Shame/ accountability keeps one’s moral compass, calibrated.
The panel are not in the same level as Anton, you can tell someone that was raised by good parents, although we are not perfect Christians but we will never forget our principles.
As a man who was a member in a church of The Married Elite. Shaming people because they're not married is 100% WRONG.. Why? because it's nobody's job to make people get married. Not even a Pastor should be doing that. His responsibility is to preach holiness, and show the love of God toward people. Church folk need to mind their business, and pray for people. Like the apostle Paul every single person is not sleeping around.
People “quote” the Bible disingenuously whenever they are getting smoked in a argument trying to get a gotcha moment on a believer, when all they know is quotes they see on IG. That’s how they keep ending up looking like ignorant fools because they speak without knowing on a daily basis and nobody checks them!
You’re actually wrong. It’s not OK for you to be single as a woman if you’re a non-religious woman then do what you want but you can never say you’re a Christian woman and be out here in the street single you are out of pocket and you are under no protection of a husband, so you are incorrect.
If you don’t have kids, not sleeping around and actively looking to settle down. Single unmarried women, with children or young widowed only stir up controversy in society. Read from Paul in the Bible. Women are single or divorced because of women.
People in our culture lack discipline and run from accountability, period. All that talk about doing what they want is truly their destruction. I lived that way for years, cutting off my nose to spite my face. And things began to go right when I began to do right. My life is great now, and I refuse to stop being disciplined and go backward.
Woman your role was defined by GOD well before your sperm and egg of creation. There no woman that GOD visited directly with your first name. So when were you ever visited to received that confirmation. Mary the one virgin woman was selected to become incarnate. That is not you!
Should we not shame criminals? The problem is you don't think and understand fornication and adultery are also crimes that harm society in more ways often than lesser crimes that you would shame. They are destructive behaviors that bring harm to the individual and all of society.
. Nobody is demonizing women for not getting married. But we are holding them accountable for being baby mamas and opening up their legs to men who are not their husbands. It is a standard that EVERYONE should live by according to the Word of God. The problem is they don’t fear God and His commandments are not taking seriously at all.
Listening to Kirk Franklin talk he's trying to protect this backwards dysfunctional environment that has manifested in the church today because he thrives in the current environment in the church . remember he's one of the first ones to take it into the direction it's at now when the older pastors was trying to keep the church traditional instead of commercializing it. now that some preachers are starting to go back to traditional standards of calling out the foolishness it makes Kirk Franklin and others like him look bad for going along with the foolishness misleading people
If you’re a single christian and don’t want to get married, then stay away from fornication and be used by God and stay pure for God. The Bible says that. If you’re married, stay away from adultery.
Fornicating is sexual immorality so e.g people doing unimaginable things with people or animals not regular smex because smex is marriage in the Bible and it is to be between one man and one woman don’t forget there is spiritual adultery too serving other gods and physical adultery having more than one partner but point blank period we are in the last days and Bible prophecy is playing out in real time as we speak 🗣️
The problem is that Kirk won’t speak against the false teachers who are doing it. Some times I wonder if he is so loving and caring about the sheep, broken, and down trotted why does he never call out the wolves!? Got the nerve to apologize to the alphabet community 😢😢. Kirk, bruh sit down somewhere
@@chillbrah1010 You know what? You're right. Let me correct it. *The only people shaming single-by-choice people are unhappy married people AND divorced people.* Thank you for pointing out my error.
Yeah but what’s not being said is,the Bible clearly tells those that remain single to also remain celibate…yeah clearly it says ..fornicators and adulterers shall not inherit the kingdom of God..this is Bible..if you believe you shouldn’t be arguing with the Word of God🗣🙏🏽
@@nunya54 my Bible tells me that the words those prophets and men of God spoke was inspired by the Spirit of God..but we can disagree that’s fine..there’s no changing what I believe Have a nice day ✌️
@@ActionMotivate Not sure why you'd not want to change to follow the truth of what Jesus taught. Who wrote the Bible and who made the claim they were inspired? The authors themselves did. Jesus didn't, God didn't and not all of them even made that claim. Paul said it was inspired but even he wrote at times without inspiration and Paul was not a honest person. Why should we believe his claim when he was known to be a liar and considered an apostate of the law and a heretic? The first Christians repudiated him and they actually knew Jesus, they were the actual eyewitnesses to his life, they were taught directly by him and what they knew about Jesus is not what Paul taught. How did he know more than them about Jesus? How did Paul know more and better than James? And Luke did not say he wrote from inspiration but as one who thought it good to write. So who was being dishonest when they said all-scripture was God-breathed? Someone had to be lying. And, when it comes to the gospels, we don't even know who wrote them but we do know they were not honest people. Who takes religion from dishonest people that they don't even know who taught ideas that are different from what the first Christians believed for centuries! Have a nice day but do try to learn the truth about the Bible and what Jesus actually taught and believed; the Bible does not align with that in many places.
@@nunya54when I say inspired by God I mean everything that lines up with the commandments but by your own words ..the prophets wrote the law..so men wrote the law ..so how do you say the law that men wrote is correct but the Bible is not correct even though it was wrote by men who profess an encounter with God..I don’t get it..by your words you should not believe the law either because men wrote it right ?
As a 31 year old male I’m fucking! But the key is not reproducing. Ion think men in this era and marketplace should get married early. You should build yourself up gain experience then later in life late 30’s early 40’s then pick who bets suits your life and you can dictate more on your terms because by then you should have gained a lot of value as a man
The mothers do not chastise the young women anymore. They’re tired of being cussed out and talked to any kind of way. Kirk is just empowering his fan base (single baby mamas)
It’s not about seeing people into marriage, it’s about shaming people who are doing the complete opposite and thinking they’re going to thrive to be successful. it’s about Fax and results. Compare the outcome of being in the streets going from person person doing nothing versus being a committed relationship and growing and developing the results and possibility of positive outcomes is greatly improved.
Just gotta say... anyone who says "I don't sin", but flippantly drops the F-bomb even though the Bible says to "let no unwholesome words come out of your mouth"... really needs to re-evaluate what the word "sin" means (it means "missing the mark")
Shaming should occur on both sides. It shouldn't be acceptable for men to sleep with women he doesn't intend to marry. He should also be shamed for creating baby mommas and fatherless households.
In this situation I think it's the people who care for said person to have morals and not allow disrespect. Unfortunately "shaming" relays the message in a harsh matter, but sometimes it's needed.
Is asking a question shaming..... just because you get asked, and feel bad, doesn't mean they shamed you. You are ashamed you are failing at marriage and don't want to be reminded. Nobody's shaming them . That stopped over 30 years ago. I call BS
It seems to me people simply don’t like standards because they actually have to be accountable for things so they come up with all these reasons to stay in the grey area where you could just what you want
Men and women, particularly women, are attacked for not being married or having children. It's acceptable for men to remain single and sleep around. Whereas something is wrong with a woman who's not married and doesn't have children. She's shamed if she has children without being married. There are many women who choose not to have children outside of wedlock. But because men are choosing to remain single longer, women are getting married later in life. This can also impact whether or not she has children unless she makes the choice to have a child outside of marriage. Marriage takes two people who are ready to commit to each other.
Anton is exposing the rebellion and delusion within the culture. People want to do whatever their flesh desires, then claim grace and blessings from Jesus.
There has to be "special" circumstances, right?! I recall commenting on something similar in the past and being attacked in the comments by ALL the men. I stayed w my kid's father 18 yrs! He cheated the entire 18 yrs. I was DAMNED for staying w a cheater, would have been damned had left becoming a single mother. DAMNED either way. I'm surprised I wasn't then blamed for his cheating. To which I def had a good comeback or "clapback".
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To add to the virgin until marriage count, I met my wife in elementary school, we dated throughout college, but both of us remained virgins until marriage.
Currently, we have been happily married for 9 years, financially successful, and with 2 healthy toddlers. When you do it Gods way, you will receive God's grace.
Absolutely correct
Y’all did it the correct & proper way congrats💯
We got shamed in the South for wanting to do things this way by a lot of people that are supposed to lead you the right path……
Everyone is not fortunate to meet our godly spouses in school
I did it God's way too, then my husband told me one day that he's allowed to have multiple wives because it was deemed permissible by God for a man to have multiple and was not a sin. I'm going to be clear here, that my husband and I have worked many things out, and I am still in my marriage, because I did not believe in forsaking my vows, even though I was being treated terribly at that time. But this has nearly destroyed my faith, and I do not even know if I'm a Christian any longer. I felt isolated and alone for a long time while raising two small kids. Deprived of church and community, because of my husband's position, yet the bible commands the woman to "obey her husband in everything", which is what I tried to do. I tried to follow the scriptures. I cried out so many times to God hoping He would answer and received nothing. Not any spiritual comfort, nothing from the Holy Spirit. So, to just say if you follow the way and you "will receive God's grace", as if that's a surefire promise, I find this to be simply untrue.
If you're single and not sinning, then you can be used by God as a positive force in society.
I agree
Says who???
Even if you are sinning, as everyone is.
However, if you are single, as a Christian you are supposed to be chaste. The first problem is when there is every intention NOT to lead a chaste life. The other one is that experienced people know most single women will regret the wasted time later.
It, therefore, becomes a duty of the Christian who cares to bug the one on the wrong path. Christianity is not about cajoling others or making them comfortable. It's more about doing the right thing especially when it is unpopular.
I agree!
We all sin though in some way. It could even be sinful thoughts but I get your ultimate point.
They're not being demonized for being single. They're being demonized for being single and hood ratting 😂
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They are being demonized. Any single adult without kids above 35 is thought of as a freak in church.
Agreed
Funny watching these folks manipulating their alleged opinions based on their life's choices. This is not really a conscious argument. More of a rebuttal for bad choices.
@@wizkidd6950 yeah at this point, I won’t even argue with them. “Take the oxygen out of the fire” method.
Is it just me? All I'm hearing is about excuses for people to continue to explore that bad behavior.
Facts, I don't know any single women who are being used by God as a single person who sleeping around
That's what I'm hearing.
Only time the black community brings up God is to validate b.s.! God gave everyone free will, and what the black community is doing with it is detrimental to success. I agree whole heartedly with Anton.
Just because you're single doesn't mean you should partake in sexual immorality. That's what Kirked missed
Who do you think created the hook up culture that’s the thing women created it. Women in the west are not being single not sleeping around. They are sleeping around with multiple men. Get your head out of the sand
Exactly. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 is but one scripure that speaks about immorality. People will call themselves Christian as a means of fitting into that particular club but don't want to live according to the Word of God. Making bad decisions is one thing, but to PRACTICE sinful activies is something else.
No missed the point he wasnt executing sexual immorality
@@Supercilliouzmanright!
@@Supercilliouzman yeah he was. In fact he was upset at people "judging " single women with a past in particular. Sexual immorality is the underlying problem and he wants women not to be accountable. You just can't see it maybe you like Kirk idk
Whatever happened to shame?! We need to bring it back!
Well, you have put Jesus back in the midst for people to feel shame. However, He's rejected in and outside the church!
@rosepitt actually Jesus convicts. Not condemns/shames.
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@@camillemitchell301 conviction from the word of the Lord brings shame of your sins.
@@rosepitt conviction leads you to repentance. Shame does not. The Bible says that there is NO CONDEMNATION for those who belong to Christ Jesus.
We are our own worst enemy!!! The black family has been destroyed by the new cultural norm of delaying marriage.
It’s not just delayed marriage they demonize marriage and glorify single motherhood!!!
Preach 🗣️
Bad demographics equals disaster.....And low key orchestrated. (on track to being replaced)
This is the truth
Absolutely.
No one is telling women to get married. What people are saying is, to stop having babies out of wedlock, and to stop being promiscuous. And people should say it more
In other cultures a loose woman is frowned upon. Unworthy, unwanted and vilified
Right! What kind of magic is there is a OF broad…some twerker on IG that’s been ran through….twerking in their Story while posting their link…🤦🏾♂️
With all the degeneracy out there with porn, Onlyfans.
The issue is that single women are considered loose and single men are considered bachelors.
@@danamonet77To pu things into context, people such as Anton do not condone sexual immorality among men. However, double standards exist on both sides, however, this one isn't a hinderance. What did selling coochie or trick or treating with it ever do for any w0man's mental wellbeing and future prospects? If anything, showing restraint helps w0men in their own lives and saves them a lot of unnecessary grief in the long run. Society doesn't forgive men who defend themselves against w0men, even if she a$$aulted him first. The man will be stigmatized and shamed for doing something which is very natural. This has got men to concede and move accordingly just to save face and stay out of being jailed unjustly. There is a choice to be made. Play by rules or play loose with your body and deal with the consequences, cos right or wrong, society won't change because you feel some type of way about it.
@@danamonet77 so there is no issue. If someone is simply single and looking for marriage that's one thing, if a person is not marrying for purpose and helping repopulate earth responsibly, sleeping around is just degenerate MAN OR WOMAN.
It's not a sin to be single. It is a sin to have sex when someone isn't married, people should absolutely marry before they carry. The people that are creating these toxic environments are a real scourge on society.
People quote and speak on the Bible when it suits them when they’re trying to attack someone. That’s why I respect Anton because he’s through and through.
I hate when people disagree just for sake of disagreeing and also talk all day and say absolutely nothing! It's really annoying!! And yes I'm taking about Jas!
Word up. Tired of her “okay can you stop right there”
Lord it’s very clear a lot of people don’t understand the road map Jesus left for us. Whew Jesus🤦🏾♀️
I love Anton's energy 80% of the time, but I'm over these slow panelists. I might just save my valuable time, and try the patreon.
Agree 👍🏿
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@estcverbalmarketing I mean I get it it's a business and its marketing or content creation, but it's just too much wasted time with these bad faith arguments
Ditto
Jas will interrupt when she “feels” or “thinks” she should, but then turns around and tells somebody to let her finish her thoughts. AD keeps her so we can see the evidence in real time😆.
She is his example what he often speaks about. She's just too stubborn to see it.
@@deepoetmusic she knows, she’s just one of those you can’t be honest to because the truth isn’t “her” truth.
How anyone deals logic with Jas is beyond me, you can only deal feelings with her or you go insane.
Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. 1 Corinthians 7:2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
Amen! This part.
If most men joined hands, and decided to change this country- for men, there would be nothing anyone could physically do to stop the movement. Still waiting.
Seriously !
One of the reasons marriage was created was in order to prevent sin
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Nope it wasn’t 😂
I would have kicked her out of the panel as soon as she came with that ignorant, “I wasn’t paying attention” get out.
If you want to be disrespectful and try to shut someone down with that get up out of here
It's not that serious
@@tottryship5608 Yeah it is
I haven't seen a marriage I would want to have. Everyone is miserable
It’s crazy how people know not to touch a hot stove or you’ll get burned. Don’t breath under water or you’ll drown. Wipe your butt or you’ll smell like dookie. But all these other topics are open for interpretation. Mental illness is so common people don’t even know they are broken.
SERIOUSLY I say the same thing its like y’all get it here but everywhere else y’all lost when its all the same frfr
Ppl pick & choose
What do we expect from Kirk? He has to create a safe space for his biggest supporters
...who are following him down the broad road to Hell.
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Again, Anton is correct. Back in the 40's 50's and 60's when they got married, they had more successfully marriages. Plus Divorce rates were lower and we didn't have broken families! So how were they wrong in the 50's!
@@rodwhite9769 I won’t say successful. I think women felt they had no other options. Let’s not act like we didn’t hear of all the secrets in those days like outside children, multiple side pieces, etc. Just because they stayed married back then doesn’t mean it was successful. I would go even to say tolerated!
@@kevinbiggers7524apex fallacy fam lol indoctrination got u lot by the throat lol most men weren’t and aren’t moving like that
Remember getting divorce is tabooed back in the day. We hold too much value from those marriages back in the day
I agree, i think we need to encourage marriage in a healthy way, it should be empasized and taught to both genders to choose wisely at a young age, without delusional standards (i think the manosphere is doing a good job of breaking down delusional mindsets), priortise marriage before babies to avoid single parent homes, or atleast get into healthy committed relationships before kids, priortise healing, dating is unnecessary and a waste of time, just be friends then decide if you want to be in a committed relationship.@@kevinbiggers7524
People act like women were slaves back in 50s, 60s and 70s. There were still single women then. Everyone acts like every marriage was the Color Purple.
Nobody should be listening to Kirk Franklin for biblical advice. He been turned out
That awkwardly smooth face of his says it all
Exactly!!!
The Bible never said you had to be married but it said to avoid fornication let each man get a wife and women a husband
What Jas needs to understand is that if you shame, you have to do it righteously. Shaming someone to vote a way that doesn't line up with their values is different than shaming some one who professes to be a Christian who operates against the word of God.
If what Kirk Franklin was saying had any real truth to it then we as black people would have the highest marriage rate, and not the lowest rate.
Nothing wrong with a single woman.
BUT(!), being a baby mama. NOPE!!!!!!!
Agreed
Lol..even if you get married with a child...you still a baby MoMA...ain't nothing wrong with a single mother...she has been blessed with a child already...you don't even know if you can have a child
Shaming women for bad behavior would definitely help people think twice. Same goes for men. If you punish bad behavior, society would be in a better place.
That is comes with not raising our children right! If our children were raised right, our children should have been prepared for this a long time ago!
I agree with your statement, the scripture says to train up a child in the way they should go, however there will be a time of testing in their life and they may not hold the values they were taught...
I’m all for bringing shame back but not for acting holier or better than thou just because you were raised in better circumstances, or made better decisions. We don’t know when our last day will be, and no one has done it all perfectly, so stay humble.
Apostle Arthur Bailey, a former Christian minister, CEO of Hebrew University in Charlotte NC, who is married and father of 8 children says he "does not believe EVERYONE should get married ".Arthur Bailey has been saying this for years. Arthur says he does NOT marry every couple who comes to him. Arthur said his wife was a Virgin when they married, 40 years ago. Boom and boom Like him or not he is spot on
If you don't read the Bible, you don't know how God thinks......According to God, you are supposed to marry the woman that you're sleeping with,PERIOD..........."And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife." Exodus 22:16 KJV
How you know that the Bible is actually what God thinks?
"According to God"? It's according to whoever wrote the bible, which was men not god.
Marriage doesnt mean run to Esau for a piece of paper. A ring and a piece of paper dont make u a spouse or married. Yall mindset and devotion to TMH and his laws does. #Hebrews13:4
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Women need to understand that men will climb on you but WONT LOVE YOU OR HELP YOU. Know your worth and take a stand for yourself!
Women will, too. It's called prostitution.
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@@lisaposey6450 women will, too. It's called gold digging.
@@Tyrone950true but this topic is about women.
@lisaposey6450 about women especially in a certain demographic taking personal responsibility for their choices and accepting the consequences of their actions, right?
It is difficult for me to understand why some people believe that taking a break from their partners is necessary for self-discovery. In my opinion, self-discovery is a journey of introspection, not a quest for novelty and sensation.
Marriage is not required, but fornication is not accepted. Better to marry than to burn with passion is what the Bible says.
This was not about people not being ready for marriage...this was about people wanting to have sex, having kids l, and bringing baggage and drama to a marriage.
If two virgins get married young and focus on themselves instead of the societal influences on free sex and exploration...they will be successful.
They can explore their sexuality together, not bringing others into their marriage and sexuality.
Anything else brings drama and is bound to fail.
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I agree with Anton. It seems like we're the only race of people normalizing baby mama/daddy culture instead of marriage. Smh, bring shame back 🤷🏿♀️
We need to ask ourselves why this is
Not true, in other countries it’s the same
We’re also the only race that glorifies the criminal life whether you’re grown or young. Add that to the baby mama culture and you literally have a broken stereo
Anton... Messiah never said F the people, he literally said he here for his people
Holding up a mirror to foolishness is not demonizing…. Zero accountability ever is why dudes don’t even bother anymore..
Hard pass on Kirk's advice. We are good over her family.
That part! That smooth faced Beijing wearing dude ain’t got NOTHING to say
if I am not mistaken Anton was not a virgin when he got married. There shouldn't be a double standard when God has told us ALL to avoid having sex outside of marriage. Males and females both need to be married before they decide to have sex.
They've brought shame upon themselves and are unaware of it
She is the queen of excuses !🤦🏾 I hate when people make a simple conversation difficult cause they think they can talk their way out of the same corner that their backward way of thinking just got them into.
as far as Jas it sounds like the young person she’s describing isn’t ready for marriage so they shouldn’t even be looking for a partner yet. Which is not a bad position to be in. But since you’re not ready yet, DONT be out here screwing and serial dating
The Streets Be Calling Em' SMH
Zesty Kirk Franklin is a prophet for some religion, but it's not Christianity.
I agree, with Anton, on shaming/ accountability. A little bit of shame is healthy . I believe that Shame/ accountability keeps one’s moral compass, calibrated.
I don't understand why people think love is absent of correction. That actually shows a deeper love for those you care for.
The panel are not in the same level as Anton, you can tell someone that was raised by good parents, although we are not perfect Christians but we will never forget our principles.
As a man who was a member in a church of The Married Elite. Shaming people because they're not married is 100% WRONG.. Why? because it's nobody's job to make people get married. Not even a Pastor should be doing that. His responsibility is to preach holiness, and show the love of God toward people. Church folk need to mind their business, and pray for people. Like the apostle Paul every single person is not sleeping around.
People “quote” the Bible disingenuously whenever they are getting smoked in a argument trying to get a gotcha moment on a believer, when all they know is quotes they see on IG. That’s how they keep ending up looking like ignorant fools because they speak without knowing on a daily basis and nobody checks them!
It's OK to be single.... if you don't also have kids
You’re actually wrong. It’s not OK for you to be single as a woman if you’re a non-religious woman then do what you want but you can never say you’re a Christian woman and be out here in the street single you are out of pocket and you are under no protection of a husband, so you are incorrect.
Would if the woman don't bother anyone a nice lady close to my age said she was not looking for anyone @@richardgonzalez6583
If you don’t have kids, not sleeping around and actively looking to settle down. Single unmarried women, with children or young widowed only stir up controversy in society. Read from Paul in the Bible. Women are single or divorced because of women.
Doesn't matter if you're non religious. Biology rules supreme. Not religion @@richardgonzalez6583
People in our culture lack discipline and run from accountability, period. All that talk about doing what they want is truly their destruction. I lived that way for years, cutting off my nose to spite my face. And things began to go right when I began to do right. My life is great now, and I refuse to stop being disciplined and go backward.
It's OK to be single, celibate and childfree.
Woman your role was defined by GOD well before your sperm and egg of creation. There no woman that GOD visited directly with your first name. So when were you ever visited to received that confirmation. Mary the one virgin woman was selected to become incarnate. That is not you!
I agree with Anton on this.
Kirk Franklin how was the Diddy parties?
exactly lol
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He didn't just flip the tables he beat them too!
1 Corinthians 6:18 Says to "Flee from fornication". That applies to males AND females. Male AND Females should be virgins when they get married.
And all I hear are excuses to continue doing what they WANT TO instead of what’s best
Same excuses excuses
Should we not shame criminals? The problem is you don't think and understand fornication and adultery are also crimes that harm society in more ways often than lesser crimes that you would shame. They are destructive behaviors that bring harm to the individual and all of society.
Oh please!
No more grace for our community. We don’t need grace we need effort and discipline 💯
. Nobody is demonizing women for not getting married. But we are holding them accountable for being baby mamas and opening up their legs to men who are not their husbands. It is a standard that EVERYONE should live by according to the Word of God. The problem is they don’t fear God and His commandments are not taking seriously at all.
Hmmm.... You mean marry someone you actually know? How radical a concept...
If you’re not ready for marriage and the responsibilities of a family then don’t have sex
Bingo
Goodluck with that.
Listening to Kirk Franklin talk he's trying to protect this backwards dysfunctional environment that has manifested in the church today because he thrives in the current environment in the church . remember he's one of the first ones to take it into the direction it's at now when the older pastors was trying to keep the church traditional instead of commercializing it. now that some preachers are starting to go back to traditional standards of calling out the foolishness it makes Kirk Franklin and others like him look bad for going along with the foolishness misleading people
Give no respect to any thing that is wicked.
I should’ve been in this lol.
7:09 she wanted to catch you on your words with that little interrogation 😭😭😭
If you’re a single christian and don’t want to get married, then stay away from fornication and be used by God and stay pure for God. The Bible says that. If you’re married, stay away from adultery.
Fornicating is sexual immorality so e.g people doing unimaginable things with people or animals not regular smex because smex is marriage in the Bible and it is to be between one man and one woman don’t forget there is spiritual adultery too serving other gods and physical adultery having more than one partner but point blank period we are in the last days and Bible prophecy is playing out in real time as we speak 🗣️
Just spend a day in a senior home… then think through the importance of committing to a life long marriage and raising a loving healthy family.
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Women like Jas is the reason i have went 3 years without talking to my sister. Once they are polluted its over.
The problem is that Kirk won’t speak against the false teachers who are doing it. Some times I wonder if he is so loving and caring about the sheep, broken, and down trotted why does he never call out the wolves!? Got the nerve to apologize to the alphabet community 😢😢. Kirk, bruh sit down somewhere
Blasphemy. Kirk Franklin
People always ready to argue thebible to so they can keep doing things they know is wrong
The only people shaming single-by-choice people are unhappy married people.
That's wrong
@@chillbrah1010 You know what? You're right. Let me correct it. *The only people shaming single-by-choice people are unhappy married people AND divorced people.* Thank you for pointing out my error.
Jamessia keeps shooting herself in the foot by saying something stupid
Yeah but what’s not being said is,the Bible clearly tells those that remain single to also remain celibate…yeah clearly it says ..fornicators and adulterers shall not inherit the kingdom of God..this is Bible..if you believe you shouldn’t be arguing with the Word of God🗣🙏🏽
If it's the Word of God.
That is God's law but the Bible is not the word of God
@@nunya54 my Bible tells me that the words those prophets and men of God spoke was inspired by the Spirit of God..but we can disagree that’s fine..there’s no changing what I believe
Have a nice day ✌️
@@ActionMotivate Not sure why you'd not want to change to follow the truth of what Jesus taught.
Who wrote the Bible and who made the claim they were inspired? The authors themselves did. Jesus didn't, God didn't and not all of them even made that claim. Paul said it was inspired but even he wrote at times without inspiration and Paul was not a honest person. Why should we believe his claim when he was known to be a liar and considered an apostate of the law and a heretic? The first Christians repudiated him and they actually knew Jesus, they were the actual eyewitnesses to his life, they were taught directly by him and what they knew about Jesus is not what Paul taught. How did he know more than them about Jesus? How did Paul know more and better than James?
And Luke did not say he wrote from inspiration but as one who thought it good to write. So who was being dishonest when they said all-scripture was God-breathed? Someone had to be lying. And, when it comes to the gospels, we don't even know who wrote them but we do know they were not honest people. Who takes religion from dishonest people that they don't even know who taught ideas that are different from what the first Christians believed for centuries! Have a nice day but do try to learn the truth about the Bible and what Jesus actually taught and believed; the Bible does not align with that in many places.
@@nunya54when I say inspired by God I mean everything that lines up with the commandments but by your own words ..the prophets wrote the law..so men wrote the law ..so how do you say the law that men wrote is correct but the Bible is not correct even though it was wrote by men who profess an encounter with God..I don’t get it..by your words you should not believe the law either because men wrote it right ?
If you take your advice from him without discernment you get what you get.
As a 31 year old male I’m fucking! But the key is not reproducing. Ion think men in this era and marketplace should get married early. You should build yourself up gain experience then later in life late 30’s early 40’s then pick who bets suits your life and you can dictate more on your terms because by then you should have gained a lot of value as a man
Condoms in the wallet
You can't achieve and build those things whilst being married young instead of fornicating?
High moral women dont want a man who been through countless others, a woman whos been through a lot of men is of equal value for you.
@@neverettebrakensiek8771 woman definitely want a guy that’s experienced. Woman and men aren’t the same.
@@JTJumper So you can't achieve and build those things whilst being married young instead of fornicating?
“Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. These things ought not so to be.”
James 3:10
King James Version (KJV)
The mothers do not chastise the young women anymore. They’re tired of being cussed out and talked to any kind of way.
Kirk is just empowering his fan base (single baby mamas)
At this point, Jas is useless on this topic!!SMH
Married and being on the LGBTQ?
Lord, have mercy .
It’s not about seeing people into marriage, it’s about shaming people who are doing the complete opposite and thinking they’re going to thrive to be successful. it’s about Fax and results. Compare the outcome of being in the streets going from person person doing nothing versus being a committed relationship and growing and developing the results and possibility of positive outcomes is greatly improved.
Thank you, Anton!!!! It is so hard for people to believe about Jesus.
Just gotta say... anyone who says "I don't sin", but flippantly drops the F-bomb even though the Bible says to "let no unwholesome words come out of your mouth"... really needs to re-evaluate what the word "sin" means (it means "missing the mark")
Shaming should occur on both sides. It shouldn't be acceptable for men to sleep with women he doesn't intend to marry. He should also be shamed for creating baby mommas and fatherless households.
May God rest both my son's dad soul 🙏🙏 both my son's dad lost their lives in gun violence 😭😭😞😞😭 (roseann)
In this situation I think it's the people who care for said person to have morals and not allow disrespect. Unfortunately "shaming" relays the message in a harsh matter, but sometimes it's needed.
Matthew 10:34
“Don’t imagine that I came to bring PEACE to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a SWORD."
Is asking a question shaming..... just because you get asked, and feel bad, doesn't mean they shamed you. You are ashamed you are failing at marriage and don't want to be reminded. Nobody's shaming them . That stopped over 30 years ago. I call BS
Let the wicked be wicked our biggest problem is we wanna save someone who don’t wanna be saved.
It seems to me people simply don’t like standards because they actually have to be accountable for things so they come up with all these reasons to stay in the grey area where you could just what you want
Men and women, particularly women, are attacked for not being married or having children. It's acceptable for men to remain single and sleep around. Whereas something is wrong with a woman who's not married and doesn't have children. She's shamed if she has children without being married. There are many women who choose not to have children outside of wedlock. But because men are choosing to remain single longer, women are getting married later in life. This can also impact whether or not she has children unless she makes the choice to have a child outside of marriage. Marriage takes two people who are ready to commit to each other.
Anton is exposing the rebellion and delusion within the culture. People want to do whatever their flesh desires, then claim grace and blessings from Jesus.
How do we shame each other into marriage
Not shaming into marriage, but morality and value
They Just Saying Anything These Days, SMH
There has to be "special" circumstances, right?! I recall commenting on something similar in the past and being attacked in the comments by ALL the men. I stayed w my kid's father 18 yrs! He cheated the entire 18 yrs. I was DAMNED for staying w a cheater, would have been damned had left becoming a single mother. DAMNED either way. I'm surprised I wasn't then blamed for his cheating. To which I def had a good comeback or "clapback".