Not really because the ancient Aryan civilization of Tall-i-bukan from 5400B.C in Fars province of Iran was never mentioned which both Persian Hakhamanish and Sasanians capitals are built Next to, which even Darius the great inscription from 520B.C says "I am Darius the great king, king of kings, king of countries containing all kinds of men, king in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenid, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage.
Haha yeah they sound cool... but what if your name was something like Chishpish (Teispes)? Haha I'm sure that would initially raise an eyebrow or the question "excuse, could you please repeat that?" Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... more to come, stay safe!
I tend to prefer anglicisations, latinisations, Hellenisations etc when they are widely used and usually easy to say and remember, although it is good to specify what the original local pronunciation is
Yeah. a video about the pronunciations of the different names in several languages of the region at the time would be cool. Although history with Cy seems better to me than history with Kou.
I had no idea about this part of "proto" Achaemenid history. It's fascinating how many things can be revealed if the people in question or some of their neighbors leave written records. I wonder how much more would we be able to find out if for example the Minoan Linear A script is to be deciphered. Great video as always!
Yeah it's interesting, someone in the comments sent me a link to a video showing that they're using machine learning to translate Linear A tablets. I also didn't know until recently, though I'm not sure if the consensus of scholars has agreed with it yet. It's still quite new. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
you're forgetting Achaemenes, he's the progenitor of the Achaemenid dynasty as it's named after him. he is Cyrus's great great great grandfather. and came to power in 705 BC. also at that time Rome was still a small kingdom and ruled by Numa Pompilius.
We'll talk about him in the video on Darius the Great. He technically wasn't considered a king of the Achaemenid dynasty (at least Cyrus never listed him), except for his mention by Darius, so that's why scholars start with Teispes. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy then at best, he would be like a chief, a tribal leader. his son was crowned king after settling in Anshan cause hey, since Susa wasn't paying attention to it, it was free real estate. and like you said in the video, the rest was history.
Thanks, really appreciate it! Yeah I usually finish making these really late my time as well since I work on these mostly in the evening. This one got done at 1AM, the last one around 2:30 AM lol. I need to find a better schedule! Thanks again, rest up and stay safe!
@@someinteresting Thank you! And how about that last season of the Mandalorian?!?!? I've seen the season finale like four times and I still get goosebumps during those last 15 minutes....the force is strong with that series!
It's incredible when you see this small Kingdom of Anshan become the Achaemenid Empire when Cyrus II came to power. He must be some kind of genius, even more than Alexander
Yeah he's truly a remarkable figure in world history. I think that Cyrus though was less impulsive. He seems to have been more methodical and planned, whereas Alexander simply wanted to fight and keep going as far as he could without stopping. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
I’m from Tehran but living in Melbourne and I’m very thankful for your amazing videos and the knowledge on history you share with us. One thing history has taught me is that nearly all of mankind sufferings are the direct results of the average people’s lack of knowledge in general. When channels like yours kings and generals n not just history but any informative useful channels that are educational should have subscribers in hundreds of millions, not a guy that all day with his wife are finger poping each other’s ass holes n pulling pranks!
Yeah there's really not much known about this early period as there are few remains or texts with regard to the Achaemenid's before Cyrus II. This probably means that the early kings were rather insignificant at the time. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it!
@@HistorywithCy you honestly do a better job of teaching ancient history than most of the teachers on this platform and that I’ve met/had in person. I’m happy to see you still making videos with great quality. Keep it up and stay safe as well!
@@issamint3499 thank you, appreciate it! Yeah my goal is to present this stuff in a way where the viewer/listener can understand the content without getting too bored with excess details. For those who want more in-depth content, I sometimes do podcasts where I go into much more detail. Thanks again for the feedback, really appreciate it!
Such a nice video Cy, sadly we dont know much about this period, i still think there is some connection to the Achaemenid bloodline with Elamites. And yes the Cambyses in the Old Persian Kabūjiya sounds like Kambojas, the ancient Indo Iranian people mentioned in Mahabharata and Ramayana.
No, i am from bayzah Anshan. The history is being held out on actual Persians history which is very older than what they try claiming due to Europeans trying to claim Aryans identity, culture and language.
Also there was a man named "Hakhamanesh" in Persian, I think Achamemnes in Greek who was the great grand father and basically the namesake of the destiny.
Not really, in Persian language parsian literally means pars as a group. ian is a adjective. Parsian is the same as Persian for a group of ethnic Pars people.
Haha sorry about the length, but the story does continue with the video on Cyrus the Great ... that video is about 45 minutes long! I'll have longer ones in the future for sure. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Hi bro can you please talk about ancient arab kingdoms like the nabatens or thamud in hejaz or kingdoms of yemen I really love your content from Saudi Arabia ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hi, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yes, I have something on Nabataeans scheduled hopefully for March/April. I'll look into other kingdoms as well such as Saba and others in Yemen. Thanks for stopping by and your interest in this stuff, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
They really inherited quite the fixer upper with Anshan, i am surprised they don't go back a little further; but then again makes sense that like the medes they were recent arrivals to Mesopotamian discord. Great video!
Yeah, Anshan's best years were behind it... by then it was probably like Constantinople in the last years of the Byzantine Empire - a city with a rich and glorious past that had now succumbed to outsiders. The difference though is that Constantinople was still a great city at the time. Anshan, at least according to archaeology, seems to have really stagnated. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Cimmerians had similar clothes like Persians, their ancestors was Achaemen , some Persians during the migration of Cimmerians settled in Anatolia, Kingdom of Commagene is one of those tribes named after their ancestor Achaemen
I wonder if you have any BMAC Civilization videos planned? They would fit in with your ancient near east theme really well. Also, your video style is perfect to bring attention to this little know civilization.
Hi, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yes, I do want to cover it sometime soon, hopefully by March/April. Thanks for the suggestion and stay safe!
Yeah, it was weakened for sure, but not dead...yet. I did a podcast on the Neo-Elamite period which basically covers the conflict between Elam and Assyria and the eventual destruction of Elam as an independent state if you interested: ua-cam.com/video/mZ2ibQtICKQ/v-deo.html As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, and you too, stay safe!
Thanks for another great video cy is there any chance of covering the Scythians and do you think it's possible that the Persians were a migrating Scythian tribe like the early European Germanic tribes
Scythians coming up! From what I've ready, both were Indo-European tribes and related in many ways, and the Persians were Indo-European nomads like the Scythians, but they are generally considered to have been different peoples. It's interesting, the Assyrians used marvel at the fact that the Medes could communicate with the Scythians, so the relationship must have been pretty close, but still they're were all considered different peoples. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy thanks for you're reply brother and for you're insight it's much appreciated I look forward to the video on the Scythians and all of you're upcoming videos
@Roger Stêrk - Not really. Kurdish is generally believed to derive from Medic, not from Persian. They are related Iranic languages but so is Ossetian, Baloch, etc.
Those Old Persian names... hmmm, what if today your were to introduce yourself as Chishpish? I'm sure you'd get a few "sorry, can you repeat that?" Not something we'd hear everyday. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
@@LuisAldamiz median and Persian were different dialect of a same language Also Kurdish is believed to derived from pahlavi language aka middle persian Same language spoken in azerbaijan before turkic migrations
Hello! Have you read W. Henkelman's "The Other Gods Who Are"? It explores a lot of the pre- and early Persian interactions with the Elamites, and the influence of Elam on the Persians. Such as Cyrus' name, the role of the Elamite gods in early Parsa, and the region around Persepolis, through the lens of the Fortification Archive.
Another excellent video Khorush jan. We all read about the Achaemenid but when we read about Cyrus the great we imagine him within the context of the Achaemenid empire, but as it’s founder Cyrus and his endeavours must be seen in the context of the previous age that he was born into. Also the Elamites integrated with the Persians and were Traditionally the scribes and civil servants of the Persians. In fact Cassandra the wife of Cyrus was said to have been an Elamite. I would love to know more about the movement of the Persians before arriving in Persia. For example their Participation in the battle of 10 kings mentioned in RigVeda 3.
Thanks baradar, appreciate it! Yeah, the Persepolis fortification tablets show how widely Elamite was used, at least in Iran since until Darius, there supposedly was no script for Old Persian. Most of the scribes were Elamites in Parsa, but in other areas Aramaic (what they call Imperial Aramaic) was the primary language of administration. I'm sure that many of the early Persian kings married Anshanite noble women to help legitimize themselves as Anshan's rulers as well, so it's natural that there would be some Elamite influence at court. With regard to the battle of the ten kings, I personally don't know of any Persian involvement in it, but I also am not too familiar with the battle itself as I've read only very little of the Rg Veda. As always, thanks so much for your support, means a lot! And more Persian history coming soon! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I love the way the Iranic people in General mixed and blended with locals everywhere. That is open minded big horizon outlook of cow herders for you. I wouldn’t push the Rigveda reference as one of the tribes mentioned is called Parsu and so there is a leap to say this is the same as the pars.
No Chaldean one yet ? haha come on cy my man, i was keen on it. :( .. your so good. If anyone makes any Chaldean doco and is non biased it would be you. Persian empire was dope. how Darius became king was a phenomenon haha.
Yeah, video on Darius coming up soon. About Chaldeans, have to find more information on them ... that is tricky! I'll see what I come up with though, maybe can do something short. Thanks again for stopping by, stay safe!
@علي ياسر do you know what Nestorian even means ? Nestorian was a christian sect. They were known as Chaldeans and Assyrians, but they were Nestorian, than they became church of the east, and than Chaldeans left the Church of the east over a dispute involving the death of the Patriarch, the Assyrians wanted to keep the patriarchy in the same blood line so they put the dead Patriarchs son who was 8 years old. The Chaldeans found this absurd and left the church of the east. When the Chaldeans left, the Assyrians named the church of the east, The Assyrian Church of the east. You know whats funny though ? In the bible it says The Chaldean native tongue is Aramaic, and until today we still speak Aramaic, and we have traditional holidays called Akitu which was passed down to us by our ancestors. No one gave us the name Chaldeans or Assyrians. We are the original inhabitants of Iraq.
@علي ياسر what other converts ? Syrians ? Jews ? There are Iraqi muslims today who once were Chaldean or Assyrian, im not saying there isn’t, but thats too hard to pin point down.
@علي ياسر the majority did not become muslims, for example from 2003 until 2022 why did the Majority die or flee to foreign countries instead of converting to islam ? The same thing happened back than.
Yeah, the post-Assyria interlude was a chill time... and then BOOM! These Persians seemingly come out of nowhere and take over the region! As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Hey Cy, do you have any plans to do a video for the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture? I just found out about them, and I'd love your take on them, especially since they've (to my knowledge at least) gotten so little attention in traditional media.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by and the suggestion, really appreciate them! I don't have it on the calendar at the moment but yes, that's a possibility when I get into eastern Europe. Great suggestion! Thanks again and stay safe!
Haha thanks, really glad you enjoyed this! I'll have more Persian stuff on the way for sure! Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Yep, 11.30pm Tuesday night and now I’ve got to go check out your Persian empire vid on Cyrus the great, rabbit holes man, but pop the red pill and call me Alice cause I’m going in!✊🏼
Haha thanks, really appreciate it! I'm the same... sometimes I'm about to sleep and then I check UA-cam and see a video from other creators that I enjoy... just have to watch it and before I know it, an hour goes by! Hope this one's worth losing sleep for! Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe and get some rest afterward!
Excellent video, Cy! I didn't know that the Persians had started in Anshan =O Wasn't from Anshan the Elamite king that was loyal to a king of Ur until his death, and then was like "I might as well destroy the whole third dynasty"? I was trying to confirm it, but I think I might be misremembering =(
Nope, you're correct! During the Neo-Sumerian/Third Dynasty of Ur, king Shulgi had given rule of Anshan to a man named Ybarat of the Shimashki family. He stayed loyal to the Neo-Sumerian regime in Ur, even when Susa and other parts of Elam had rebelled. However, during the reign of the last Neo-Sumerian king, Ibbi-Sin, an old Ybarat apparently decided to declare his independence and even took over Susa. His son, Kindattu, about 20 years later invaded Sumer and apparently took Ibbi-Sin to Elam where he was probably executed. Good memory man! All this was happening between 2050-2004 BC... the Persians came about 1400 years later, so yeah, you can see how long of a history Anshan has had. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Lol one of my favorite scenes in GoT is when Sir Davos says "This is Jon Snow...he's king in the north!" Was a great series until the last season. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
I am very interested in caucuses and Balkin country's history as well. Their history is really not promoted maybe because of the Aryan migration that took place to Europe before 900 BC while fully developed civilizations where named in Sumerian texts from 7000 year's ago across East, West and North of Irans plateau while no ancient civilization exists in European continent before 900 BC.
@@HistorywithCy Ohh you put my name in the end credits! Haha I forgot you did that for your patrons. Thank you! It's an honor to be associated (in however small ways) with your work. Your channel is amazing.
@@henrimourant9855 The honor is all mine... this channel is successful due to viewers like you who tune in every time I post a video. That to me makes this all worth it. So thank YOU!
Does anyone know who was the mother of Cambyses 1. I read a long time ago that she was elamite nobility but I can’t find it now. Cyrus 2 was supposedy Lydian and Median in addition to Elamite and Persian.
Thanks! I think you can do it in your browser. UA-cam also keeps track of all of your "liked" videos - there's a way to see it that I forget at the moment. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
Hmmm, interesting topic but probably not an individual video because, at least from what I know, there's very little about them other than what's written in Assyrian texts, especially from the time of Sargon II. If I find something more substantial, then it's possible, but for the moment, probably not. Thanks for the suggestion though, appreciate it. Stay safe!
Excellent as usual;but didn't the medes, Persians and Babylonians ally to bring down the neo Assyrian empire in the late 7th century - or is that for another episode. Stay safe!
Haha yes, you are correct, they did and and I've actually covered that in several past episodes. Here they are: Concise History of Ancient Assyria and the Assyrian Empire (Historical Highlights and Great Kings): ua-cam.com/video/s_K60ulextI/v-deo.html The Neo-Babylonian Empire (Nabopolassar, Nebuchadnezzar II, Nabonidus) ua-cam.com/video/FbFSuO7KHLY/v-deo.html Early Median and Persian Kings - Deioces, Cyaxares, Astyages and Cyrus the Great (see the part on Cyaxares for end of Assyria) ua-cam.com/video/WtQ_d0lIrt4/v-deo.html Any questions, please let me know... thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
I always love Ashurbanipal inscriptions, he always sounds like Jay and Silent Bob replying to internet commenters. "YOU are the ones who are the...." 😂😂
Haha yeah I can see that...one of my favorites is when he brags about how smart he is for being able to read ancient texts: "I can solve the most complicated divisions and multiplications which do not have a solution. I have read intricate tablets inscribed with obscure Sumerian or Akkadian difficult to unravel, and examined sealed, obscure, and confused inscriptions on stone from before the flood." Interesting guy for sure. As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Hi! Assuming that he was indeed a historical figure, I think most would say Cyrus the Great or Alexander the Great. There was a Kings and Generals video recently about it, though I didn't get a chance to see it. Thanks again for stopping by, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy Appreciate it. I Did some extensive research myself. The Quran states that he went west and east and was a believer of one God. Amongst the conquerors that conquerered the west and east prior prophet Muhammad were(from youngest to oldest): Alexander Darius Cyrus II Ashurbanipal Hammurabi Shulgi Naram-Sin Sargon Lugal Anne Mundu Only three of them are kind of attested not to be polytheistic, and they are Darius, Cyrus II and Naram-Sin. This is my main curiosity that I can't take my mind off. To me that's like trying to find out who was THE most badazz human being that has ever existed in the entire history of mankind.
@@alissa6 no bother at all....it was Darius who expanded the borders to beyond the Caucasus. Here's a recent find of a stele of Darius near the Black Sea: www.realmofhistory.com/2016/08/12/6th-century-stele-persian-darius-russia/ Stay safe!
Great topic and coverage. However I'd say that it's important to understand that the Iranic elites were almost certainly a very small minority ruling over native populations, Elamites in the case of the early Persians, at least that's what the genetic data suggests.
Yeah I agree, and that's why there are some who go as far as to say that the Persians were really a tribe or clan of Elamites. I reject this because of other evidence, but it's quite possible, even likely that they married into the local Anshanite noble houses to gain more legitimacy, so later kings may have had mixed Persian-Elamite ancestry. Culturally, they were quite acclimated to Elamite ways such as their dress and using their language for administrative purposes. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy - That would be too much, there's quite clearly a linguistic shift and surely also other associated cultural shifts, like that "Phrygian cap", which ancient Elamites did not use at all, or more importantly the shift from matrilineality to strong patriarchy. We can at best say that (core) Persians were (largely) Indoeuropeanized ex-Elamites, much like Kurds seem to be Indoeuropeanized ex-Hurrians (also Armenians but these from a different Indoeuropean branch).
@@LuisAldamiz Yeah I agree... the Persians were good at taking the best of other cultures - so Elamite for administrative purposes until Aramaic was adopted (probably in Pars Elamite remained more prominent due to the fact that many of the administrators and scribes were of Elamite descent and initially, the Persians didn't have a written language until Darius I). Anyway, stay safe and thanks!
@@LuisAldamiz Nope. Aramaic eventually became the language of administration for the Achaemenid Empire (what's called Imperial Aramaic) and was used from Egypt all the way to Central Asia. It was much easier/faster to write than cuneiform and more people already understood it since it was the most common language spoken and (and eventually written) in the Neo-Assyrian Empire a few centuries earlier.
Damn, that first Cyrus was REAL insecure wasn't he lol seriously though, I never quite understood why some rulers did stuff like that. Ego? Insecure? Other?
Hi, thanks for stopping by! Oh, you mean sending his son to the Assyrian court? Yeah I think it was common practice and a bit of insurance for the Assyrian king. It could also be positive for the other party as the "guest" would also learn about life at the Assyrian court and get valuable, firsthand information about their overlord and possible future adversary. But yeah, I wouldn't want to send off any of my kids like that. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy oh no no, i meant how come rulers, especially ancient rulers, do the "king of kings, ruler of ashur and akkad, tyrant of the universe, god amongst gods" etc type things in their descriptions of themselves?
@@Number1Irishlad Oh ok haha. I don't know, I guess to make a point. All of them did it... except for Jon Snow... he was merely "King in the North." Thanks again for stopping by, stay safe!
And what about the man himself, Achaemenes. Little did such a small, insignificant king know that one day the greatest Persian empire would be named after him. Was he even Cyrus’s ancestor? Or was that just a fabrication by Darius?
Hi, thanks for stopping by! Yeah so I didn't include him because technically scholars don't consider him to be a king from Cyrus' Anshanite line and the only mention of him as you stated is from Darius. Maybe he did exist as an ancestor or patriarch of the Persians clans, but it's not something that we can prove and many scholars argue that he was just made up by Darius. We'll explore him in the upcoming video on Darius the Great. As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy It’s truly fascinating to think about. Maybe he was a legendary figure even for their time, like how Jamshid became a legendary figure for the Sassanids. Looking forward to all your future vids!
I can never see Anshan without thinking "Hey, that means 'Peaceful Mountain' in Chinese!" Here are the characters for that: 安山. Anyway, homage is technically pronounced o-MAH-zh, not HAH-mij
Yup, a place in China as well. Yeah, I was doing this late at night and missed that pronunciation. Silent h. Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy it is not just the silent H, but im not going to get snooty about that. By the way, how much longer do you have the seal on loan for from the museum? LUL
cy ! achaemenid himself was the man who started persian kingship line not tiespes and secondly you had to mention than persian and medes used to live together in west of today iran they were assyrian Neighbours ashurbanipal himself i guiss mention that so maybe they left their kins(medes) after what happened to elamite so that they kinda replace them!
Darood my friend, thanks for watching an stopping by! Yes, I did not include Achaemenes because he is only mentioned in the Behistun inscription of Darius the Great and in Herodotus work, but not by Cyrus himself in any document, including the Cyrus Cylinder. So, that is why I have not included Achaemenes because most scholars are unsure whether he was really Cyrus' ancestor or someone Darius made up. However, if you watch the other programs I made on the Achaemenids, I discuss this there. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
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Haha yeah Chishpish (Teispes) is the most interesting sounding for me. I can see why they may have been hard for later Greek writers to pronounce. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
As a persian myself who've visited many of those sites, you did a fine job, both in pronouncing names in Persian and knowledge of cities and places.
Not really because the ancient Aryan civilization of Tall-i-bukan from
5400B.C in Fars province of Iran was never mentioned which both Persian Hakhamanish and Sasanians capitals are built Next to, which even Darius the great inscription from 520B.C says
"I am Darius the great king, king of kings, king of countries containing all kinds of men, king in this great earth far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenid, a Persian, son of a Persian, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage.
Y'know, I'd much prefer to hear the ancient pronunciations of these people's names. Kouroush sounds way cooler than Cyrus.
Haha yeah they sound cool... but what if your name was something like Chishpish (Teispes)? Haha I'm sure that would initially raise an eyebrow or the question "excuse, could you please repeat that?" Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... more to come, stay safe!
I do also. I find their ancient pronunciation to be more logical considering the region. I like hearing both of the names. 😄
History with Kou
I tend to prefer anglicisations, latinisations, Hellenisations etc when they are widely used and usually easy to say and remember, although it is good to specify what the original local pronunciation is
Yeah. a video about the pronunciations of the different names in several languages of the region at the time would be cool. Although history with Cy seems better to me than history with Kou.
I had no idea about this part of "proto" Achaemenid history. It's fascinating how many things can be revealed if the people in question or some of their neighbors leave written records. I wonder how much more would we be able to find out if for example the Minoan Linear A script is to be deciphered.
Great video as always!
Artificial inteligence will help crack Linear A
Yeah it's interesting, someone in the comments sent me a link to a video showing that they're using machine learning to translate Linear A tablets. I also didn't know until recently, though I'm not sure if the consensus of scholars has agreed with it yet. It's still quite new.
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Yess, Finally, I've always wanted to know about pre Achaemenid Persians
Oh good, hopefully this will help...thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Great Video!
Thank you, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Damn, just when I’m about to nod off and finally get some sleep. Sadly I’ll have to watch this in the morning 😩.
No worries, I'm going to sleep too... almost 1AM my time. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
you're forgetting Achaemenes, he's the progenitor of the Achaemenid dynasty as it's named after him. he is Cyrus's great great great grandfather. and came to power in 705 BC. also at that time Rome was still a small kingdom and ruled by Numa Pompilius.
That one has nothing besides a name, left by Darius I, who lived centuries after. Probably existed, but still...
We'll talk about him in the video on Darius the Great. He technically wasn't considered a king of the Achaemenid dynasty (at least Cyrus never listed him), except for his mention by Darius, so that's why scholars start with Teispes. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy then at best, he would be like a chief, a tribal leader. his son was crowned king after settling in Anshan cause hey, since Susa wasn't paying attention to it, it was free real estate. and like you said in the video, the rest was history.
@@HistorywithCyare you Persian yourself??
Excellent work as always Cy! It's just past 3 am my time, just had to push back sleep to watch.
Cy posts, we watch. This is the way.
Thanks, really appreciate it! Yeah I usually finish making these really late my time as well since I work on these mostly in the evening. This one got done at 1AM, the last one around 2:30 AM lol. I need to find a better schedule!
Thanks again, rest up and stay safe!
@@someinteresting Thank you! And how about that last season of the Mandalorian?!?!? I've seen the season finale like four times and I still get goosebumps during those last 15 minutes....the force is strong with that series!
@@HistorywithCy It was a very pleasant season, indeed.
It's incredible when you see this small Kingdom of Anshan become the Achaemenid Empire when Cyrus II came to power. He must be some kind of genius, even more than Alexander
Yeah he's truly a remarkable figure in world history. I think that Cyrus though was less impulsive. He seems to have been more methodical and planned, whereas Alexander simply wanted to fight and keep going as far as he could without stopping. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Thank you for putting out these great videos Cy, we really appreciate it!
My pleasure, thank you for watching these, makes it all worth it for me! More to come, stay safe!
If it wasn’t for you Cy, no one else would be willing to tell the wonderful tales of the ancient middle eastern past.
My pleasure, glad there's interest in this stuff. Thanks for stopping by, stay safe!
Great content Cy! Thank you for taking the time to make these wonderful videos for us to enjoy
My pleasure, glad you're interesting in this stuff. More to come, stay safe and thanks for stopping by!
keep it up i just subbed!
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As always, outstanding video!!
Thanks, really appreciate it! More to come, on Persian and other history, soon, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy perfect!!!
I’m from Tehran but living in Melbourne and I’m very thankful for your amazing videos and the knowledge on history you share with us. One thing history has taught me is that nearly all of mankind sufferings are the direct results of the average people’s lack of knowledge in general. When channels like yours kings and generals n not just history but any informative useful channels that are educational should have subscribers in hundreds of millions, not a guy that all day with his wife are finger poping each other’s ass holes n pulling pranks!
Thanks alot for this one, this is a part of history I knew nothing about. One often gets the impression that Cyrus spawned out of nowhere
Yeah there's really not much known about this early period as there are few remains or texts with regard to the Achaemenid's before Cyrus II. This probably means that the early kings were rather insignificant at the time. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it!
a little bit late, but happy 2021!
Thanks my friend, same to you! All the best for 2021 and thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Another great video, Cy!
Thanks bud, really appreciate it! Hope all is well with you and stay safe!
Hey man excited to watch this vid. Always great work from you!
Thanks really appreciate it! Hope you enjoy it and stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy you honestly do a better job of teaching ancient history than most of the teachers on this platform and that I’ve met/had in person. I’m happy to see you still making videos with great quality. Keep it up and stay safe as well!
@@issamint3499 I can only agree
@@issamint3499 thank you, appreciate it! Yeah my goal is to present this stuff in a way where the viewer/listener can understand the content without getting too bored with excess details. For those who want more in-depth content, I sometimes do podcasts where I go into much more detail. Thanks again for the feedback, really appreciate it!
Excellent video, thanks CY!🙏
My pleasure, thank you, glad you liked it... stay safe!
I really like your history videos they are very cool and interesting. Keep doing what you love :)
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! More to come for sure, stay safe!
Such a nice video Cy, sadly we dont know much about this period, i still think there is some connection to the Achaemenid bloodline with Elamites. And yes the Cambyses in the Old Persian Kabūjiya sounds like Kambojas, the ancient Indo Iranian people mentioned in Mahabharata and Ramayana.
No, i am from bayzah Anshan.
The history is being held out on actual Persians history which is very older than what they try claiming due to Europeans trying to claim Aryans identity, culture and language.
Verry accurate and educational
wish your videos had more viewers
Great job 👍
Thanks my friend, really appreciate the kind words. More ancient Persian history coming up, stay safe!
Also there was a man named "Hakhamanesh" in Persian, I think Achamemnes in Greek who was the great grand father and basically the namesake of the destiny.
Not really, in Persian language parsian literally means pars as a group. ian is a adjective. Parsian is the same as Persian for a group of ethnic Pars people.
Very interesting and an excellent video as always.
Thanks, really appreciate the kind words. Hope that your 2021 has started well...stay safe!
Too short! I realize that it takes work to make these. I was just on a roll and it ended! I will just have to wait. Again thank you for your videos.
Haha sorry about the length, but the story does continue with the video on Cyrus the Great ... that video is about 45 minutes long! I'll have longer ones in the future for sure. Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Hi bro can you please talk about ancient arab kingdoms like the nabatens or thamud in hejaz or kingdoms of yemen I really love your content from Saudi Arabia ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Hi, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yes, I have something on Nabataeans scheduled hopefully for March/April. I'll look into other kingdoms as well such as Saba and others in Yemen. Thanks for stopping by and your interest in this stuff, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy thanks brother ❤️❤️❤️
They really inherited quite the fixer upper with Anshan, i am surprised they don't go back a little further; but then again makes sense that like the medes they were recent arrivals to Mesopotamian discord. Great video!
Yeah, Anshan's best years were behind it... by then it was probably like Constantinople in the last years of the Byzantine Empire - a city with a rich and glorious past that had now succumbed to outsiders. The difference though is that Constantinople was still a great city at the time. Anshan, at least according to archaeology, seems to have really stagnated.
Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Cimmerians had similar clothes like Persians, their ancestors was Achaemen , some Persians during the migration of Cimmerians settled in Anatolia, Kingdom of Commagene is one of those tribes named after their ancestor Achaemen
Thanks as always bro keep it up
Thanks my friend, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Thanks a lot for the very interesting video!
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
I wonder if you have any BMAC Civilization videos planned? They would fit in with your ancient near east theme really well. Also, your video style is perfect to bring attention to this little know civilization.
Hi, thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Yes, I do want to cover it sometime soon, hopefully by March/April. Thanks for the suggestion and stay safe!
I always thought that Elam was dead centuries before Cyrus. thanks for the video man stay safe!
Yeah, it was weakened for sure, but not dead...yet. I did a podcast on the Neo-Elamite period which basically covers the conflict between Elam and Assyria and the eventual destruction of Elam as an independent state if you interested: ua-cam.com/video/mZ2ibQtICKQ/v-deo.html
As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, and you too, stay safe!
Thanks for another great video cy is there any chance of covering the Scythians and do you think it's possible that the Persians were a migrating Scythian tribe like the early European Germanic tribes
Scythians coming up! From what I've ready, both were Indo-European tribes and related in many ways, and the Persians were Indo-European nomads like the Scythians, but they are generally considered to have been different peoples. It's interesting, the Assyrians used marvel at the fact that the Medes could communicate with the Scythians, so the relationship must have been pretty close, but still they're were all considered different peoples. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy thanks for you're reply brother and for you're insight it's much appreciated I look forward to the video on the Scythians and all of you're upcoming videos
Great as always
Thanks, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Me: Cyrus - yeah, but what was his real name in his native tongue?
Cy: - whose name in Old Persian...
You’ve always got us covered. ;-)
@Roger Stêrk - Not really. Kurdish is generally believed to derive from Medic, not from Persian. They are related Iranic languages but so is Ossetian, Baloch, etc.
Those Old Persian names... hmmm, what if today your were to introduce yourself as Chishpish? I'm sure you'd get a few "sorry, can you repeat that?" Not something we'd hear everyday. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy A hipster couple have just found their next baby's name. ;-)
@@LuisAldamiz median and Persian were different dialect of a same language
Also Kurdish is believed to derived from pahlavi language aka middle persian
Same language spoken in azerbaijan before turkic migrations
Hello! Have you read W. Henkelman's "The Other Gods Who Are"? It explores a lot of the pre- and early Persian interactions with the Elamites, and the influence of Elam on the Persians. Such as Cyrus' name, the role of the Elamite gods in early Parsa, and the region around Persepolis, through the lens of the Fortification Archive.
Another excellent video Khorush jan. We all read about the Achaemenid but when we read about Cyrus the great we imagine him within the context of the Achaemenid empire, but as it’s founder Cyrus and his endeavours must be seen in the context of the previous age that he was born into. Also the Elamites integrated with the Persians and were Traditionally the scribes and civil servants of the Persians. In fact Cassandra the wife of Cyrus was said to have been an Elamite. I would love to know more about the movement of the Persians before arriving in Persia. For example their Participation in the battle of 10 kings mentioned in RigVeda 3.
Thanks baradar, appreciate it! Yeah, the Persepolis fortification tablets show how widely Elamite was used, at least in Iran since until Darius, there supposedly was no script for Old Persian. Most of the scribes were Elamites in Parsa, but in other areas Aramaic (what they call Imperial Aramaic) was the primary language of administration. I'm sure that many of the early Persian kings married Anshanite noble women to help legitimize themselves as Anshan's rulers as well, so it's natural that there would be some Elamite influence at court. With regard to the battle of the ten kings, I personally don't know of any Persian involvement in it, but I also am not too familiar with the battle itself as I've read only very little of the Rg Veda.
As always, thanks so much for your support, means a lot! And more Persian history coming soon! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy I love the way the Iranic people in General mixed and blended with locals everywhere. That is open minded big horizon outlook of cow herders for you. I wouldn’t push the Rigveda reference as one of the tribes mentioned is called Parsu and so there is a leap to say this is the same as the pars.
@Jotaro97 sorry I meant to write Cassandane. Of course I know of the seer and unfortunate Trojan princess Cassandra
I really respect your work rate
Thanks man, appreciate it! More on the way, stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Very cool!
Great video thank you
My pleasure, thank you for stopping by, stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy 💟💟💟👍💞
No Chaldean one yet ? haha come on cy my man, i was keen on it. :( .. your so good. If anyone makes any Chaldean doco and is non biased it would be you. Persian empire was dope. how Darius became king was a phenomenon haha.
Yeah, video on Darius coming up soon. About Chaldeans, have to find more information on them ... that is tricky! I'll see what I come up with though, maybe can do something short. Thanks again for stopping by, stay safe!
@علي ياسر do you know what Nestorian even means ? Nestorian was a christian sect. They were known as Chaldeans and Assyrians, but they were Nestorian, than they became church of the east, and than Chaldeans left the Church of the east over a dispute involving the death of the Patriarch, the Assyrians wanted to keep the patriarchy in the same blood line so they put the dead Patriarchs son who was 8 years old. The Chaldeans found this absurd and left the church of the east. When the Chaldeans left, the Assyrians named the church of the east, The Assyrian Church of the east. You know whats funny though ? In the bible it says The Chaldean native tongue is Aramaic, and until today we still speak Aramaic, and we have traditional holidays called Akitu which was passed down to us by our ancestors. No one gave us the name Chaldeans or Assyrians. We are the original inhabitants of Iraq.
@علي ياسر what other converts ? Syrians ? Jews ? There are Iraqi muslims today who once were Chaldean or Assyrian, im not saying there isn’t, but thats too hard to pin point down.
@علي ياسر the majority did not become muslims, for example from 2003 until 2022 why did the Majority die or flee to foreign countries instead of converting to islam ? The same thing happened back than.
Another corker! Thank you :)
My pleasure, thank YOU! More to come, stay safe!
So a nice stable century of rule bevor Cyrus the Great. I would love to have visited.
Yeah, the post-Assyria interlude was a chill time... and then BOOM! These Persians seemingly come out of nowhere and take over the region! As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Hey Cy, do you have any plans to do a video for the Cucuteni-Trypillia culture? I just found out about them, and I'd love your take on them, especially since they've (to my knowledge at least) gotten so little attention in traditional media.
Hi, thanks so much for stopping by and the suggestion, really appreciate them! I don't have it on the calendar at the moment but yes, that's a possibility when I get into eastern Europe. Great suggestion! Thanks again and stay safe!
👍 good video
Thank you, appreciate it! Stay safe!
Another phenomenal video! Fascinating material, very well presented. Cy lives up to his name yet again!
Haha thanks, really glad you enjoyed this! I'll have more Persian stuff on the way for sure! Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
That was nice - "King of the UNIVERSE" he wrote ... xD
Haha yeah quite a title...a bit much though if you ask me. Anyway, hope all is well on your end... stay safe!
Yep, 11.30pm Tuesday night and now I’ve got to go check out your Persian empire vid on Cyrus the great, rabbit holes man, but pop the red pill and call me Alice cause I’m going in!✊🏼
Haha thanks, really appreciate it! I'm the same... sometimes I'm about to sleep and then I check UA-cam and see a video from other creators that I enjoy... just have to watch it and before I know it, an hour goes by! Hope this one's worth losing sleep for! Thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe and get some rest afterward!
Interesting background!
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Excellent video, Cy!
I didn't know that the Persians had started in Anshan =O
Wasn't from Anshan the Elamite king that was loyal to a king of Ur until his death, and then was like "I might as well destroy the whole third dynasty"? I was trying to confirm it, but I think I might be misremembering =(
Nope, you're correct! During the Neo-Sumerian/Third Dynasty of Ur, king Shulgi had given rule of Anshan to a man named Ybarat of the Shimashki family. He stayed loyal to the Neo-Sumerian regime in Ur, even when Susa and other parts of Elam had rebelled. However, during the reign of the last Neo-Sumerian king, Ibbi-Sin, an old Ybarat apparently decided to declare his independence and even took over Susa. His son, Kindattu, about 20 years later invaded Sumer and apparently took Ibbi-Sin to Elam where he was probably executed.
Good memory man! All this was happening between 2050-2004 BC... the Persians came about 1400 years later, so yeah, you can see how long of a history Anshan has had.
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The way Cyrus introduces himself in the Cyrus Cylinder would put Daenerys Targaryen to shame
Maybe. However they would make an interesting pair. It would have a herald making a very loonngg introduction.
Lol one of my favorite scenes in GoT is when Sir Davos says "This is Jon Snow...he's king in the north!" Was a great series until the last season. Anyway, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! More to come, stay safe!
Are the ancient states in Caucasus a possible topic? The kingdoms of Colchis, Iberia and Albania really interest me.
I am very interested in caucuses and Balkin country's history as well. Their history is really not promoted maybe because of the Aryan migration that took place to Europe before 900 BC while fully developed civilizations where named in Sumerian texts from 7000 year's ago across East, West and North of Irans plateau while no ancient civilization exists in European continent before 900 BC.
Thanks!
Thank you, really appreciate it! More on the way, stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Fascinating
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@@HistorywithCy Ohh you put my name in the end credits! Haha I forgot you did that for your patrons. Thank you! It's an honor to be associated (in however small ways) with your work. Your channel is amazing.
@@henrimourant9855 The honor is all mine... this channel is successful due to viewers like you who tune in every time I post a video. That to me makes this all worth it. So thank YOU!
Where leave Zorouster in Persia?
Does anyone know who was the mother of Cambyses 1. I read a long time ago that she was elamite nobility but I can’t find it now. Cyrus 2 was supposedy Lydian and Median in addition to Elamite and Persian.
I need a way to favorite videos...
Thanks! I think you can do it in your browser. UA-cam also keeps track of all of your "liked" videos - there's a way to see it that I forget at the moment. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it...stay safe!
Can you tell me the orgin of Anshanites ?
Will you make a video on the Mannaeans ?
Hmmm, interesting topic but probably not an individual video because, at least from what I know, there's very little about them other than what's written in Assyrian texts, especially from the time of Sargon II. If I find something more substantial, then it's possible, but for the moment, probably not. Thanks for the suggestion though, appreciate it. Stay safe!
Excellent as usual;but didn't the medes, Persians and Babylonians ally to bring down the neo Assyrian empire in the late 7th century - or is that for another episode. Stay safe!
Haha yes, you are correct, they did and and I've actually covered that in several past episodes. Here they are:
Concise History of Ancient Assyria and the Assyrian Empire (Historical Highlights and Great Kings):
ua-cam.com/video/s_K60ulextI/v-deo.html
The Neo-Babylonian Empire (Nabopolassar, Nebuchadnezzar II, Nabonidus)
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Early Median and Persian Kings - Deioces, Cyaxares, Astyages and Cyrus the Great (see the part on Cyaxares for end of Assyria)
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I always love Ashurbanipal inscriptions, he always sounds like Jay and Silent Bob replying to internet commenters. "YOU are the ones who are the...." 😂😂
Haha yeah I can see that...one of my favorites is when he brags about how smart he is for being able to read ancient texts:
"I can solve the most complicated divisions and multiplications which do not have a solution. I have read intricate tablets inscribed with obscure Sumerian or Akkadian difficult to unravel, and examined sealed, obscure, and confused inscriptions on stone from before the flood."
Interesting guy for sure. As always, thanks so much for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
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Darius vs Naram-Sin. Who was the most likely Quranic figure called Dhul Qurnayn.
Hi! Assuming that he was indeed a historical figure, I think most would say Cyrus the Great or Alexander the Great. There was a Kings and Generals video recently about it, though I didn't get a chance to see it. Thanks again for stopping by, stay safe!
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I Did some extensive research myself. The Quran states that he went west and east and was a believer of one God. Amongst the conquerors that conquerered the west and east prior prophet Muhammad were(from youngest to oldest):
Alexander
Darius
Cyrus II
Ashurbanipal
Hammurabi
Shulgi
Naram-Sin
Sargon
Lugal Anne Mundu
Only three of them are kind of attested not to be polytheistic, and they are Darius, Cyrus II and Naram-Sin. This is my main curiosity that I can't take my mind off. To me that's like trying to find out who was THE most badazz human being that has ever existed in the entire history of mankind.
@@HistorywithCy Don't wanna come as a pest, but one last question. Did Cyrus II conquer the Caucasus? Or was it Darius the first to do that?
@@alissa6 no bother at all....it was Darius who expanded the borders to beyond the Caucasus. Here's a recent find of a stele of Darius near the Black Sea:
www.realmofhistory.com/2016/08/12/6th-century-stele-persian-darius-russia/
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@@HistorywithCy Thank you!
I believe you have just help me answer my life long enigma. It's most likely Darius then who is Dhul Qarnayn.
Great topic and coverage. However I'd say that it's important to understand that the Iranic elites were almost certainly a very small minority ruling over native populations, Elamites in the case of the early Persians, at least that's what the genetic data suggests.
Yeah I agree, and that's why there are some who go as far as to say that the Persians were really a tribe or clan of Elamites. I reject this because of other evidence, but it's quite possible, even likely that they married into the local Anshanite noble houses to gain more legitimacy, so later kings may have had mixed Persian-Elamite ancestry. Culturally, they were quite acclimated to Elamite ways such as their dress and using their language for administrative purposes. Thanks again for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy - That would be too much, there's quite clearly a linguistic shift and surely also other associated cultural shifts, like that "Phrygian cap", which ancient Elamites did not use at all, or more importantly the shift from matrilineality to strong patriarchy. We can at best say that (core) Persians were (largely) Indoeuropeanized ex-Elamites, much like Kurds seem to be Indoeuropeanized ex-Hurrians (also Armenians but these from a different Indoeuropean branch).
@@LuisAldamiz Yeah I agree... the Persians were good at taking the best of other cultures - so Elamite for administrative purposes until Aramaic was adopted (probably in Pars Elamite remained more prominent due to the fact that many of the administrators and scribes were of Elamite descent and initially, the Persians didn't have a written language until Darius I). Anyway, stay safe and thanks!
@@HistorywithCy - Aramaic? I'm perplex by this bit, I thought Aramaic was only important in the Levant.
@@LuisAldamiz Nope. Aramaic eventually became the language of administration for the Achaemenid Empire (what's called Imperial Aramaic) and was used from Egypt all the way to Central Asia. It was much easier/faster to write than cuneiform and more people already understood it since it was the most common language spoken and (and eventually written) in the Neo-Assyrian Empire a few centuries earlier.
Damn, that first Cyrus was REAL insecure wasn't he lol
seriously though, I never quite understood why some rulers did stuff like that. Ego? Insecure? Other?
Hi, thanks for stopping by! Oh, you mean sending his son to the Assyrian court? Yeah I think it was common practice and a bit of insurance for the Assyrian king. It could also be positive for the other party as the "guest" would also learn about life at the Assyrian court and get valuable, firsthand information about their overlord and possible future adversary. But yeah, I wouldn't want to send off any of my kids like that.
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@@HistorywithCy oh no no, i meant how come rulers, especially ancient rulers, do the "king of kings, ruler of ashur and akkad, tyrant of the universe, god amongst gods" etc type things in their descriptions of themselves?
@@Number1Irishlad Oh ok haha. I don't know, I guess to make a point. All of them did it... except for Jon Snow... he was merely "King in the North."
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And what about the man himself, Achaemenes. Little did such a small, insignificant king know that one day the greatest Persian empire would be named after him. Was he even Cyrus’s ancestor? Or was that just a fabrication by Darius?
Hi, thanks for stopping by! Yeah so I didn't include him because technically scholars don't consider him to be a king from Cyrus' Anshanite line and the only mention of him as you stated is from Darius. Maybe he did exist as an ancestor or patriarch of the Persians clans, but it's not something that we can prove and many scholars argue that he was just made up by Darius. We'll explore him in the upcoming video on Darius the Great.
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@@HistorywithCy It’s truly fascinating to think about. Maybe he was a legendary figure even for their time, like how Jamshid became a legendary figure for the Sassanids. Looking forward to all your future vids!
I can never see Anshan without thinking "Hey, that means 'Peaceful Mountain' in Chinese!" Here are the characters for that: 安山. Anyway, homage is technically pronounced o-MAH-zh, not HAH-mij
Yup, a place in China as well. Yeah, I was doing this late at night and missed that pronunciation. Silent h. Thanks for stopping by, appreciate it... stay safe!
@@HistorywithCy it is not just the silent H, but im not going to get snooty about that. By the way, how much longer do you have the seal on loan for from the museum? LUL
Oh I still have it! It might make a special appearance in an upcoming video, stay tuned!
isnt teispes son of achamans?
cy ! achaemenid himself was the man who started persian kingship line not tiespes and secondly you had to mention than persian and medes used to live together in west of today iran they were assyrian Neighbours ashurbanipal himself i guiss mention that so maybe they left their kins(medes) after what happened to elamite so that they kinda replace them!
Darood my friend, thanks for watching an stopping by! Yes, I did not include Achaemenes because he is only mentioned in the Behistun inscription of Darius the Great and in Herodotus work, but not by Cyrus himself in any document, including the Cyrus Cylinder. So, that is why I have not included Achaemenes because most scholars are unsure whether he was really Cyrus' ancestor or someone Darius made up. However, if you watch the other programs I made on the Achaemenids, I discuss this there. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!
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گسترش آشا و داده های داتیک های دانشی ایرانی و هندی #دادگستری_شاهنشاهی_ایران_بزرگ را ساختیم و گسترش دادیم هنوز هم هر چه اروپاییان آمریکا کانادآ روس وچین دارند از همین #دادگستری_و_شهریگری_ایرانشهری_ایرانبزرگ / آنها همه چیز را بکمک خود ما در هنگام هزاره ها سال گسترش ایرانشهری دارند ولی اکنون برای ما اسلام و کمونیزم و جمهوری های فرقه ای تبهکار وارداتی داعشی طالبان و وهابیسم میآورند با دروغ خشونت سانسور و کشتار و چندین هزار آسپ ترآووآ در ایران / بر ما سوارند و خدایی میکنند همین اروپاییان و انگل استان آمریکا وکانادای تروریست پرور امروز بویژه انگل استان و فرانسه و آلمان = غربیها و آمریکا همچنین روس و چین تروریست گلوبالیست های امروز دارند 42 سال هولوکاست وکشتار ایرانی و ایرانی تباران را رهبری میکنند بدست دشمنان و دشمنیاران درون و برون مرز چرا کسی از برون مرزیان در این باره چیزی نمیگویند تا جوانان مردم ایران خاور میانه و جهان زیر سانسور و رسانه های دروغوند گلوبالیست بدانند؟ چرا راست و ساده این تاریخ و جریان را نمی گویید باز هم میخواهید 40 سال دیگر بگذرد تا همه پیز را خودشان سانسور شده و با رنگ و ماسک دروعین تاریخ را وارونه به خورد ما و جهان سر در گم و روانپریش بدهند؟ / بهمن ماه سال 2579 خورشیدی آشامنش / ایرج جانبازی همراه با خنیاگران زاگرسی و سربازان گارد شاهنشاهی ایران بزرگ / Drouda / Eraan Shar or Araan = Iran the same name of another city near Caspian sea in Iran today the same Name our Kingdom when we reach to end of Mediterrane we also Named it > Araan > in Irish (Iraj ) also is the same Araan and those three little islets or island in the northeast of Galway called Araeen ( آرآیین = آیین آریایی ) also as we know Irish people are100% Iranian there Kingdom history and language and architect and excavation look blood test DNA also the archeology proved this. ( Araan= Iran Shar =Irish =Iraj =Eric or Erika is the same name and the same word / 2579 Khorshidy Ashamanesh /
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A lot of Old Persian names sound kind of silly to me.
Haha yeah Chishpish (Teispes) is the most interesting sounding for me. I can see why they may have been hard for later Greek writers to pronounce. Thanks for stopping by, really appreciate it! Stay safe!
Ancient history: Exists
Schools: Meh just lets Talk about Hitler again
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Give me your contact email than i can send you old and new mape of Iran and on the map i show you where is and which city to day is ancient Ánshan